No Connection


Over at Jack’s, Elspeth wrote

I see it among the ones who graduated with our kids. Making it to 22, 23 years old without ever having been on a date. Ever, and these are not fat or ugly young women. Our girls have two Christian classmates who finally found their first boyfriends when they were 23 and 24. They were happy to settle in with the first guy they ever dated.

I have seen some anecdotes on this. Let me speculate. They might be marriage minded. For them the SMP is a confusing thing. The basic problem is that everybody expects women of that age to be in the SMP and not the MMP. They get offers to hang-out, with the guys hoping that there might be something good at the end of the tunnel. This type of thing is clearly not going where they want to go. The guys who might be marriage minded, but not being established or having game skills, think that they don’t have a chance, so they don’t even try. So there is a fundamental disconnect.

So maybe after four years of seeing how things work, and getting a bit wiser, these people might stumble upon each other. Or, maybe not for a long time. Or maybe never. It is so difficult for such people to find each other. The system is not setup for them, perhaps with the purpose of discouraging such people from existing.

Exit question — How can such people find each other?

Posted in Dating????, FarmBoy, Marriage
58 comments on “No Connection
  1. Cill says:

    The blokes I know are nearly all in the “single and not looking” category. They would all like sex without having to put their heads on a chopping block, but that’s not possible, so most of them avoid it. Talking to them, it’s pretty clear that they don’t envisage a future with a FWB or LTR, let alone marriage. They are just not looking for a woman.

    So where do women go to meet men like these? Nowhere, really.

    As for women, there appear to be less PPPs now. We have still have rabid feminists here, though, and it looks like we’re stuck with them for the duration. The SMP and MMP will remain fucked up for as long as feminists continue to get their way.

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  2. Cill says:

    Team UK has just won another race in the Prada Cup. Three out of 3 to Ben and the Poms.

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  3. Cheque d'Out says:

    I’ll take my good news where I can get it, ta.

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  4. Cheque d'Out says:

    80 million voted for this guy?

    They’re taking the fucking piss.

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  10. Cheque d'Out says:

    I admit it. I laughed

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  11. Cheque d'Out says:

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  12. Boris is the muppet prime minister of the UK. His girlfriend’s hand is so far up his ass I can see what color her nails are whenever he talks.

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  13. Not that were any better off here.

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  14. horsemanbombadil says:

    The new system, based on the SMP, is set up for the maybe 15% that are attractive.
    It is based only on pretty/exciting. The momentary adrenaline rush aka tingles.

    This automatically, really excludes 80% of men and 50% of women.
    Yes the lower 50% can get laid but even during the act they know the partner does not really want them.

    Also the basis of the adrenaline rush is partially novelty. Even the prettiest face loses its tingles. Yes but he/she was last year’s sexiest alive. Why? Not because they are that less pretty but because novelty.

    So the system does not have incentives built in.

    Incentives must be strong enough to invoke action otherwise they are wishes.
    Everyone has something they want but don’t do the work for.
    I want to be….
    Why don’t you?
    Well because….
    The incentive isn’t strong enough.

    The current system based on pretty only has incentive of tingles. All parties can eat, live, function without it. They may want it but don’t need it. So they can be excluded willingly or not.

    So they react differently but respond to their natural exclusion. The 50% not served by the system leave the system.

    Men do a brutal self assessment of their genetics, what they can do about it i.e. exercise etc. And make actions accordingly. In many cases self selecting out. The juice isn’t worth the squeeze etc.
    Women also self assess, they know, but they rationalize. Poor me or where are the good men etc. They don’t self select out. They are NOT selected and therefore kicked out.

    In both cases 50%+ of the participants are out of the system.

    Fine if it is a sport. You like baseball, I like hockey. Ok.

    But when it is the basis for reproduction and going to work? Not ok.

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  15. horsemanbombadil says:

    So like in the OP we are seeing the effect. They don’t even try.

    Guys going minimalist, mgtow, going quiet not caring they don’t get attention.
    Girls eating ice cream alone, getting sluttier to get any attention, and shrieking nastily when they don’t get it.

    The lack of trying brings out indifference in men and anger in women.

    And so the incentive breaks down.

    How do we as a society get men/women to….
    Work
    Care
    Participate
    Listen
    Spend

    Everything comes down to sex and coupling.

    “Love was something guys like me made up to sell you stockings.”

    And we have told half the population that no matter what they do, they will not get tingles or generate tingles in others. So no incentives. For anything.

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  16. Cheque d'Out says:

    Marianna is an ‘ABBC journalist’ specialising in countering what she, or her owners, decide to call disinformation. She’s mid-twenties and carefully protects the officially sanctioned views of events. She has used a pseudonym in order to interview people in order to discredit them. Certainly not likely to be a spook or a spook asset.

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  17. horsemanbombadil says:

    How did the MMP work.

    Look pre WWII because after that it is muddied.

    Men wanted sex, heirs and a helpmate. (Most men couldn’t cook, their wives did)

    Women wanted food/shelter, babies and a protector.

    There were strong incentives, we were tied much closer to society.
    Emotional support was not via therapists but clergy or friends. Entertainment was not tv but social events, the pub, family.

    Bachelors could be alone but often outside society, mountain men, rangers, soldiers.
    Spinsters were shut away, the old crone, the pitied schoolmarm.

    Men needed the support, social standing provided by a woman beyond tingles and sex.
    Women needed the resources, social inclusion provided by a protecting man.

    Tingles were there but it was acknowledged as u necessary.
    Arranged marriages, mail order brides.

    Why would Jacob write to find Sara plain and tall? For tingles?
    No he needed a helpmate and she needed a provider, protector outside her brothers.

    It was less romantic, more transactional. But the incentives worked.
    There was incentives for 2s to find 2s.
    And they were happy about it. Not tingly but content.

    “He was a strong man.” “She was a good mother.”

    There were incentives to be involved regardless of where you were on the tingle scale.

    How do we get men\women to
    Work
    Care
    Participate
    Listen
    Spend?

    These things will get you a husband\wife. And life gets much easier when you have a spouse.

    Even an ugly one.

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  18. horsemanbombadil says:

    Howq did the MMP work.

    Look pre WWII because after that it is muddied.

    Men wanted sex, heirs and a helpmate. (Most men couldn’t cook, their wives did)

    Women wanted food/shelter, babies and a protector.

    There were strong incentives, we were tied much closer to society.
    Emotional support was not via therapists but clergy or friends. Entertainment was not tv but social events, the pub, family.

    Bachelors could be alone but often outside society, mountain men, rangers, soldiers.
    Spinsters were shut away, the old crone, the pitied schoolmarm.

    Men needed the support, social standing provided by a woman beyond tingles and sex.
    Women needed the resources, social inclusion provided by a protecting man.

    Tingles were there but it was acknowledged as u necessary.
    Arranged marriages, mail order brides.

    Why would Jacob write to find Sara plain and tall? For tingles?
    No he needed a helpmate and she needed a provider, protector outside her brothers.

    It was less romantic, more transactional. But the incentives worked.
    There was incentives for 2s to find 2s.
    And they were happy about it. Not tingly but content.

    “He was a strong man.” “She was a good mother.”

    There were incentives to be involved regardless of where you were on the tingle scale.

    How do we get men\women to
    Work
    Care
    Participate
    Listen
    Spend?

    These things will get you a husband\wife. And life gets much easier when you have a spouse.

    Even an ugly one.

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  19. horsemanbombadil says:

    Cill\fb
    Third post in spam?

    [SG – 2 freed]

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  20. horsemanbombadil says:

    Basically we had two types of incentives for the not pretty 50%.

    Riverwood “we are a small village but we work hard and take care of our own”

    Or

    Miranda “They just lay down and let themselves die.”

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  21. horsemanbombadil says:

    Tl:dr

    SMP vs MMP

    All comes down to
    Why the hell does anyone want someone 50 years old.

    It aint for tingles.

    It is either
    A) you still see them as 25 because of shared experience
    Or
    B) it beats being alone and you know that is all you can get.

    The SMP ignores this question, live for the day, that is a long time away.

    The MMP is based on it, you are building your future.

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  22. horsemanbombadil says:

    In my social circle, all around 55, there are

    Me and mrs.
    A widow who lost her husband of 36 years this year
    A SIW who never married and is sick of her career
    A woman divorcing her late life husband after 8 years
    A lifelong bachelor early retired after 30 years in the forces.

    I see the effects every day.

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  23. I guess if she could show how she actually is NOT one the most bigoted adherents of the Party, a swallower of slogans, an amateur spy and noser−out of unorthodoxy, she wouldn’t have the problem of people thinking she is. Of course she wouldn’t have that job at the beeb either.

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  24. Cheque d'Out says:

    NEW – US House Oversight Committee asks Expedia, Avis, Megabus, Best Western, Hyatt, Marriott, et al to provide copies of policies and screening measures to prevent services from being used by “domestic terrorists.”
    https://gab.com/disclosetv/posts/105566640186585267

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  25. Cheque d'Out says:

    https://dlive.tv/p/dlive-lggfookvdm+1hdAANfMg
    1:42:35
    1:44:53 – The spike proteins of the wu thing are neurotoxic…and the vaccines are said to encode the whole of the spike. What the actual fuck. ALL the vaccines.

    He’s already been struck to remove monetisation on dlive. Best watch this today – assuming that you want to know about the affects of the spike protein getting into the brain (via virus or vaccine)

    Watch his preceding video first for full effect.

    He makes it plain that not everyone will be affected.

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  26. horsemanbombadil says:

    So what else you got?

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  27. I used to take the high chair out and just hose it off every couple of weeks.

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  28. horsemanbombadil says:

    The international language.

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  29. horsemanbombadil says:

    Btw I fully acknowledge the hypocracy of promoting marriage against posting russian vids.

    I am just paying homage to how far we have come.
    In my youth all I had was the brassiere section of the Sears print catalogue.
    Now THIS (those??) appears in my youtube recommendations.

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  30. Farm Boy says:

    After Capitol Riots, Sesame Street Pulls All Episodes Featuring The Letter ‘Q’

    https://babylonbee.com/news/after-capitol-riots-sesame-street-drops-all-episodes-featuring-the-letter-q

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  31. Farm Boy says:

    Germany is set to put COVID dissidents who repeatedly fail to properly follow the rules in what is being described as a ‘detention camp’ located in Dresden.

    https://summit.news/2021/01/15/germany-to-put-covid-rulebreakers-in-detention-camp/

    [Perhaps “vaccine macht frei” it should be]

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  32. Ame says:

    LOL Horseman!!! That was SOOOO my Aspie-Girl! ‘child-proof’ just gave me that extra 2-3 seconds to jump and run to catch up with her! lol!

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  33. Cheque d'Out says:

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  34. horsemanbombadil says:

    I also speak spanish besides russian. And love me some freckles.

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  35. Cill says:

    you gigantic haystack of shit
    HAHAHAHA! What a pearler!

    Today’s Prada Cup races are about to commence.

    The top boat speed yesterday was close to 48 knots (55 mph). Today’s winds will be lighter. I’m keen to see how Team UK’s rig handles the conditions. During the Christmas Cup they were hopeless in the light winds.

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  36. Cill says:

    They have done a lot of work on their boat since then.

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  37. Ame says:

    those boats are crazy wicked.

    would they have any purpose other than racing?

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  38. Cill says:

    Similar tech can be built into pleasure boats but these craft out here are 100% for racing.

    Race 1 has been abandoned due to wind shift. Wild sea. Everyone wonders just how much these boats can do and we were treated to some spectacular stuff out there. Boat speeds about 60 mph.

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  39. Cill says:

    Ben Ainsley has just said he would trade his 5 Olympic medals for one America’s Cup.

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  40. Farm Boy says:

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  41. Larry G says:

    New toy coming next week…Leupold VX-Freedom 3-9×40 1inch scope

    Got my favorite sandwiches, picnic basket and picked up a new thermos today

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  42. Farm Boy says:

    Twitter Says ‘Bug’ Prevented Users From Searching Lincoln Project Amid Sexual Misconduct Allegations

    https://dailycaller.com/2021/01/16/twitter-bug-prevented-lincoln-project-searches/

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  43. Cill says:

    4 out of 4 for Ben and his men. The lead changed several times. Excellent sailing by both teams.

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  44. Cill says:

    Larry you didn’t get your sinking but we did get a capsize, and it was a whopper. And it won’t be the last mishap of this competition.

    American Magic was looking brilliant against Italy, sailing fast and pointing high (a major asset in sailboat racing).

    These foiling boats are at their most vulnerable when rounding a mark, and that’s when a sudden increase in wind strength slammed American Magic. After rearing up like a 75 foot horse, over she went.

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  45. Ame says:

    Wow. Pulled that up, Cill. So scary. Glad everyone is safe.

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  46. tb20driver says:

    @Larry G

    Nice Leupy. What are you putting it on?

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  47. Larry G says:

    TB, removing the handle for the scope mount

    DPMS LR-308 AR-10 AP4 .308 Win 16″

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  48. tb20driver says:

    @Larry G

    Nice stick. Have you picked a mount for it yet?

    I have been lusting over one of these:

    https://uintahprecision.com/product/upr10/

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  49. Larry G says:

    yep, Leupold 177093 Mark AR Integral Mounting System 1-Pc Base

    Got 2 MBRs, one AR and a M1A. Thinking of selling the M1A though, the steel mags are expensive and difficult to find. I can get all the AR mags I want pretty cheap. Once I zero the AR I’ll decide what I’ll do with the M1A

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  50. Farm Boy says:

    Police say Oregon man who stole a car with a child in the backseat came back and ‘lectured’ the mom about parenting

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/police-say-oregon-man-who-stole-a-car-with-a-child-in-the-backseat-came-back-and-lectured-the-mom-about-parenting/ar-BB1cPBkp

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  51. Farm Boy says:

    Blast from the past

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Black-clad activists among hundreds of demonstrators protesting Donald Trump’s swearing-in on Friday clashed with police a few blocks from the White House, in an outburst of violence rare for an inauguration.

    At least 217 people were arrested in the melees, police said.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-inauguration-protests/violence-flares-in-washington-during-trump-inauguration-idUSKBN1540J7

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  52. JPF says:

    And life gets much easier when you have a spouse.

    This is not what I have seen. My wife is good. But life before her included:
    – a dishwasher
    – a laundry machine and dryer
    – female worker to do some simple tasks
    – restaurants with reasonably healthy meals for a low price
    – pre-cooked, whole chickens from Walmart.

    Other than emotional, sexual and progeny desires, a woman has little value for a man in this high-tech culture.
    Maybe in the past having a second, weak worker available was very helpful. Some tasks are just massively easier with two people working together.
    But unless you are building your own barn or home, her help is not strongly needed. Not saying a woman’s help is not useful; just not anywhere near enough to justify the costs of divorce.

    Btw I fully acknowledge the hypocracy of promoting marriage against posting russian vids.

    No hypocrisy at all. An attractive, physically fit, smiling, young woman. And with fantastic breasts. Comparing her to what a typical young man sees in church on Sunday morning, she is far more desirable for marriage than the locals, despite knowing nothing about her character.

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  53. horsemanbombadil says:

    Jpf

    I was referring to the old pre wwII world where things were complimentary seperated.

    In the old world men worked such long and hard jobs they needed someone to keep house.
    Similarly women couldnt meaningfully work for wages and so needed a provider.

    Hence the mmp had built in incentived.

    Now that men and women are self sufficient independently there is no such incentive.

    Hence we are seeing both sexes drop out of the mmp

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  54. horsemanbombadil says:

    Agreed. I find little use for modern women.

    Frankly I could be quite fine if mrs were not around because of as you said dishwashers, microwaves, etc. In my case I just like having her around from 30+ years of shared experience.

    Like her yes, need her no. Incentive to marry if I wasnt already….no.

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