Young Men — Protesting Too Much


Sometimes when one encounters others, they try extra hard to convince you of their honesty. The thought is that if they need to work extra hard to convince you of this, rather than letting their reputation and/or the way that they carry themselves convince you of this, then should perhaps consider them untrustworthy.

Naturally enough, this is very context sensitive. Younger people are more prone to try to oversell something, so they might be given special dispensation. If one is caused of a heinous crime, hopefully an innocent person would protest strongly.

Perhaps the general thought is that people of low character do not realize that one’s bearing and reputation are assets in this cases, and as such, try to convince the only way they know how. Perhaps commenters will state other theories.

So try to build a reputation for honesty; also be of honest character, hopefully this will come through in your bearing such that others can see it.

As an example of protesting too much, consider the case of former UN Ambassador Susan Rice. She has a reputation for being a liar, as evidenced by her parading around the Sunday discussion news shows deliberately lying about the cause of the Benghazi fiasco. At the end of the Obama Andmisitration, as the principles were plotting to investigate Trump and associates, she wrote and sent emails to herself to document to what was happening. Who does that kind of thing? Obviously they were for future public consumption. In one email she makes a big profession about doing everything by the book. Spoiler – it wasn’t.

Short Answer – be on the lookout for people protesting their honesty/innocence a bit too much, or in an awkward manner.

Exit Question — How much is honesty worth?

Posted in FarmBoy, HowTo, Lies
133 comments on “Young Men — Protesting Too Much
  1. whiteguy1 says:

    Farmboy, I would say the value of honesty is your soul.

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  2. Not kidding read that! Pence was in on it! 😳

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  3. Cheque d'Out says:

    TRUMP RALLY LIVE IN DC: President Donald Trump at Save America Rally at The Ellipse 1/6/21

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  4. Cheque d'Out says:

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  5. Bitteroldman says:

    Honesty is everything.

    [Seems especially appropriate on this day it does]

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  6. Cheque d'Out says:

    Let’s hope that the virtue signalling twat doesn’t read the hurty replies. Of which there are many.

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  7. Cheque d'Out says:

    Honesty may be everything but it’s highly unfashionable these days.

    Welcome.

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  8. My favorite reply to Karen-Marie was “Who’s ‘we’?”, but “Get stuffed” was right on its heels.

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  9. Looks like the Dems dropped another load of mail-in ballots on Georgia last night, so they win both Senate seats. Can you blame them? If nobody stops you from stealing elections why would you stop stealing elections?

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  10. Cheque d'Out says:

    I think that this explains her latest tweet

    The previous crap-a-thon was her idea, it seems, her one and only claim to fame…so she’s trying it again. Sargon tried to get GamerGate re-started at one point, probably for the same reasons.

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  11. The guy who invented “pet rocks” did more for society than she did.

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  12. Cheque d'Out says:

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  13. Cheque d'Out says:

    Can you get more traditional than “Get stuffed”?
    (In Britain anyway)

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  14. Cheque d'Out says:

    I must admit that I hope that Pence does his duty. My faith was rather shaken when SCOTUS turned tail.

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  15. I’m pretty sure “Get stuffed” was Donk’s only line in the first Crocodile Dundee movie.

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  16. Cheque d'Out says:

    Bliar again

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  17. Cheque d'Out says:

    In widespread use over here

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  18. No more deadly than the flu. Easily treatable with cheap and well-known drugs if you actually get sick enough to be bothered. But now I’ll have to wear an armband saying I got vaccinated? Fuck that.

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  19. Ame says:

    OP – How much is honesty worth?

    When my first husband left, I told our girls that only the truth would be spoken in our home. I told them no more lies. I even have gave them permission to correct me when I was wrong. Own yourself and your own stuff. Take responsibility.

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  20. Ame says:

    Whoa, Liz! That’s the first I’ve heard about Pence being a part of all this. Is this generally known out there, or is this a shock to everyone?

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  21. Ame says:

    I mean Bloom 😁

    [Wonder where Liz is I do]

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  22. Cheque d'Out says:

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  23. Cheque d'Out says:

    As Tony Bliar might say, “That Mitch McConnell seems a pretty straight sort of guy”

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/blair-i-think-i-m-a-pretty-straight-sort-of-guy-1294593.html

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  24. Do not pick up Chinese chicks in Malaysia.

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  25. Cheque d'Out says:

    Oh dear. This stinks. ‘No sign of widespread fraud’…yeah.

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  26. People expect federal employees to do something other than protect their pensions?

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  27. Ame says:

    Liz said her Mom became ill or fell and needed her care, so she’d be out for awhile 😥

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  28. h0neyc0mb says:

    Pence is Deep State ™ .. WHY did anyone expect him to do anything but fold like a cheap suit?

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  29. Cheque d'Out says:

    Ame, thanks for that. I was wondering. Best wishes to Liz and her mum.

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  30. Cheque d'Out says:

    So much for morally compelled man of great principle. Also…fuck.

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  31. Farm Boy says:

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  32. Cheque d'Out says:

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  33. Ame says:

    They have put CNN on at work and I’m about to scream!!! Really?!!! Whining about ‘these people’ being *violent* but the protesters were just good, suppressed, people who*needed* to kill people and destroy property and steal?!!!

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  34. Ame says:

    A post about honesty on a day when truth is so convoluted and twisted the majority of people have no clue what the truth is much less what is true.

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  35. Cheque d'Out says:

    Ame appears to have nailed it

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  36. JPF says:

    the majority of people have no clue what the truth is much less what is true

    And the majority do not care what is true. Even “conservatives”.
    Do you want to dispute this? Then show me those who are willing to be wise, stand up and resist evil.
    According to some news articles, in the two senate run-off elections that are being counted today, the republican monitors are not being permitted to monitor, despite having a court order. And surprise; there was a vote spike for the democrat “winners”. Well, the democrat trick of removing republican monitors, either by trickery or by having security guards bar their entrance, has already been shown. So the republican monitors should have known to expect this. Where are the republicans who knew to expect fraud, and were willing to physically push their way into the counting area, despite the armed resistance of the criminals and their security guards/police? Just 20 men who would show up, and march into the counting area, pushing past any traitors who tried to ban the monitoring of a fair election?

    If the conservatives are not willing to give of their time, money and lives, then they will not prevail. Because there is a group that is willing to pay criminals to riot, to pay for the bail for criminals, to take the small risk of death to commit riot crimes, to break election laws, and to use the threat of death by police to ban republican monitors from counting areas.
    The side that shows up will win. And that is not the republicans.

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  37. Cheque d'Out says:

    I am sorry to say that I agree with you. You might have had your last genuine election some years back. I don’t see how there will be another one.

    I’d love The Donald to prove me wrong.

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  38. Ame says:

    There’s a parable about building your house on sand … while we used to have a deep, strong foundation, we’ve allowed thieves in sheep’s clothing to blatantly dig out underneath that strong foundation and replace it with mirrors and sand, and now it cannot stand.

    It’s so shocking.

    Newscaster is saying that Trump is repeating the lie that the election was stolen. UGH!!! I wish I could turn off this thing called news.

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  39. JPF says:

    And now the news says that some protesters have forced their way into the Congress building. I’m sorry to say, this is not the “wise” choices that I asked for above. It is too late. They should have pushed into the counting areas on November 3, to prevent fraudulent ballots from being added to the lists. Pushing into the area where they are tallying up the false answers provided from elsewhere is unlikely to do anything useful. Maybe I am wrong, but I doubt it.

    Trump was stupid to not have army monitors at every polling station and counting area… unless he could not do that, in which case he never had a chance anyway.

    Ame is right. We have stood by and done nothing while the strong foundation was destroyed in small acts, one piece at a time. Each piece was seen as too small to fight against. And now the foundation has been revealed to be crumbled. The next four years, including the next election, will be interesting.
    I expect a continual injection of US dollars, to fund welfare and other immoralities of every kind. In this respect, Trump was just as immoral as the democrats; under his watch the creation of US dollars has been staggering. This devalues every US dollar that anyone has in any form of savings.

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  40. Farm Boy says:

    With 40% of the country thinking the election was stolen, this was to be expected — especially after the unified voice of the media saying for years that if you feel disenfranchised it’s okay to riot. Our ruling class, and particularly our media, have been playing with fire for years and I hope that this will be enough to shock them into more sensible behavior.

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/424306/

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  41. Farm Boy says:

    When a vaccine 10 pack is thawed out and only 7 ppl show up, the remaining 3 get dumped. That’s happening in NY TODAY. No one wants to run afoul of Killer Cuomo’s asinine rules and risk the million dollar fine.

    Just like he threatened the nursing home operators back in March.

    — Ben (@benny0110) January 4, 2021

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  42. theshadowedknight says:

    Trump troops just stormed the Capitol Building and got to run amok. Let everyone know we can fuck things up, too. If the GOPe is ruled by fear, we will damn well give them something to fear.

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  43. Farm Boy says:

    Probably the people who first breached the Capitol were Antifa false flag types. Some Election Protestors no doubt saw the action and decided to jump in.

    Who is going to catch the flak?

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  44. Farm Boy says:

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  45. theshadowedknight says:

    So what? The right showed everyone that we will go to fucking war if this keeps up. This is the way things should be. If it took antifa to kick it off, that doesn’t change that the right just took and held the capitol from the authorities and the politicians had to run scared. What flak can they catch? They just showed that the right can and will fight and win. Stop trying to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat. This was a clear victory.

    [See your point I do]

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  46. Farm Boy says:

    It is true that the present rules appear to be: if you are unhappy about something, then you have the right to riot

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  47. Farm Boy says:

    Question of the day — it is said that 40% of the people believe that the election was stolen. This would be the people who admit to believing this. How many people know the score but won’t admit it?

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  48. theshadowedknight says:

    If 40% is the official number, then it is much higher. The amount I have heard is more like 60-70%, whether or not they are unhappy with the result.

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  49. Gunner Q says:

    “It is true that the present rules appear to be: if you are unhappy about something, then you have the right to riot”

    They stole it first. We just want our country back.

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  50. Ame says:

    it was antifa … start at 13:52

    [Very interesting this is,
    Predict the future they can]

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  51. Farm Boy says:

    The thought is that there are many lefty types who know what went on, but would never admit it.

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  52. Farm Boy says:

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  53. JPF says:

    Ame’s video link from 1:28 am – YouTube does not play the video; it is “unavailable”. Should I be surprised?

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  54. Farm Boy says:

    What the video showed was a story on the NPR website that stated that Trump Supporters had breached the Capitol. It had a 9:30 am post time. Somehow they knew what would happen five hours later.

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  55. Too bad the cat wasn’t on the island with her.

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  56. Ame says:

    try this fb link … see if it’s still up:

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  57. Ame says:

    i couldn’t find it on her website, yet, but i only had a moment to look … you can look for:
    Episode 1242 Understanding the Chaos,
    at http://www.krisannehall.com

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  58. Farm Boy says:

    These are the things and events that happen when a sacred landslide election victory is so unceremoniously & viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly & unfairly treated for so long. Go home with love & in peace. Remember this day forever!

    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 6, 2021

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  59. Farm Boy says:

    Lots of Election Fraud data here

    https://hereistheevidence.com/

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  60. Farm Boy says:

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    The Antifa guy

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  61. Farm Boy says:

    This fella is a bit odd, but he makes you think. If you are interested in the false flag Antifa operation, go to 37:30

    He doesn’t want to get banned from YouTube, so he often does not say things explicitly

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  62. Farm Boy says:


    Do you realize there are videos of the DC police opening the doors for Antifa to come into the Capital building? Probably done to give the RINO’s an excuse to punk out.

    There was no breach. They were let in. Antifa

    First hand reports of people there said the doors were open and they thought they were being invited into the People’s House.

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/01/the-trump-movement-as-we-knew-it-ended-today/#comment-1123619

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  63. Farm Boy says:

    I’m sorry, but after spending most of my life working on the continent, the NHS isn’t the best in the world – it isn’t one of the best in Europe. Pales when compared with systems like Germany and Norway.’

    Gareth Baines

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  64. Cheque d'Out says:

    Rubbish! Depends on the metric used.

    The rNHS is unparalleled at employing useless middle management and at catastrophic waste.

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  65. Cheque d'Out says:

    You go Karen!

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  66. Cheque d'Out says:

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  67. Cheque d'Out says:

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  68. Farm Boy says:

    The same government that scrutinizes all our actions on a daily basis and presumes we’re guilty until proven innocent, when questioned by the people about the obvious flaws and issues of the elections refused any examination and told us that everything was fine, or if not, we had no standing. We should just trust their word over our lying eyes.

    Next thing you know, they’ll tell us to eat cake

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/424453/#respond

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  69. Farm Boy says:

    SO WE HAVE AN ELECTION THAT 40% OF OUR NATION THINKS WAS STOLEN. THINGS CAN’T GO ON THIS WAY. We need Florida-style reforms to make elections trustworthy. Other nations manage that, and we could too except that the people in charge haven’t wanted to. We’re now seeing the results of that fecklessness and it needs to change.

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/424486/

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  70. Cheque d'Out says:

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  72. We must keep these Republicans in the Senate or something, something …

    The GOP is dead.

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  73. Cheque d'Out says:

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  74. Cheque d'Out says:

    As a foreign person, I thought that it was all over when SCOTUS tucked tail and ran from making a legal ruling over the election. How can you force a POTUS on honest states whose election was only made possible by blatant fraud in other states? How can that situation be legitimate?

    Anyway…fuck.

    Looking forward to seeing how long Biden lasts in post.

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  75. Cheque d'Out says:

    You have your equivalent of our Official Monster Raving Loony Party

    I would have voted for them in the last general election, given a candidate. Not joking.
    https://www.omrlp.com/

    Roll out the vaccine
    2nd January 21
    Manicfesto Proposal: Save our Pubs (and our Lives)

    1.Put the Covid vaccine in Beer..

    2.Open the Pubs, and in two days time the whole country will be vaccinated

    (thanks to Michael for this one)

    —- An older one

    EU Policy and more!
    12th December 20
    If we leave the EU without a deal we will introduce a blanket ban on continental quilts.
    We will paint our coastal limits Red White & Blue, so that British fish know where they are at all times.
    Once in Government we will replace the Foreign Secretary with a British one.
    We will be extending 2020 to give it the chance to get it right.
    Increase the safety of British children by naming all newborns with at least 12 letters, including a capital, a number and a special character.

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  76. Gunner Q says:

    “Do you realize there are videos of the DC police opening the doors for Antifa to come into the Capital building? Probably done to give the RINO’s an excuse to punk out.

    “There was no breach. They were let in. Antifa”

    I figured as much. How was the national Capitol Building so unprepared for a gigantic, scheduled protest during a major session of Congress as to be breached with less than high explosives? Clothing stores in Milwaukee were more hardened against mobs. The DC cops let them in… then Trump ordered his followers to obey the DC cops.

    There ain’t gonna be no miracle for our side.

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  77. Cheque d'Out says:

    Sooner or later they’re going to break in through the wrong door. People have had enough. I have to wonder if this is deliberate provocation by some politically motivated higher-ups.

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  78. thedeti says:

    If the purpose of this post is to advise young men on the value of honesty, I’d probably take this in another direction.

    Honesty is valuable, no question about it. Honesty burnishes one’s reputation. It can also destroy a reputation. Honesty can save you or get you killed.

    It’s all about how you deploy your honesty.

    When I was starting out my career a wise older lawyer, one of my direct bosses, told me:

    “Not everyone needs to know the whole truth all the time.”

    (He was a fucking asshole, but he was a wealthy asshole who was great at his job, so there’s that.)

    Breaking that down: some people shouldn’t be given your honesty for one reason or another. Not ALL of your honesty needs to be deployed, depending on the situation. Honesty need not be slavishly adhered to at all times in all occasions.

    Some people aren’t entitled to honesty, you don’t need to divulge everything, and sometimes it’s better not to be fully honest.

    That’s what I’d tell younger men. Some people are untrustworthy, or stupid, or fuckups, or assholes, and they aren’t entitled to the truth. Decide when and to whom you need to tell ALL of the truth. Decide what needs to be told, what needs to be held back, and what needs to be embellished or prevaricated about.

    That’s real life. That’s how it works in the real world. Rules? Yep. But rules can be bent for convenience, or broken when necessary. Deadlines can be extended, or outright disobeyed.
    You can get it done on time if you can, but if you can’t, some delay isn’t the end of the world. Fuckups can be fixed most of the time. If they can’t be fixed, they can be papered over, or massaged, or spun. People you pissed off can be assuaged and placated.

    When it comes to women: No woman, not even your wife, should get all the truth all the time. No spouse is a complete open book. You don’t know everything about what she does, where she is, or who she’s doing it with, or how she thinks or feels. Trust your spouse? OK, but do you know everything about her? Do you ACTUALLY KNOW?

    Do you know where she is all the time? You know what she tells you, you know her routine, but… do you actually know? Not predicted, not routine, not what she said… do you KNOW where she is?

    No. You don’t know. You can predict, you can guess, and you can be right most of the time.. but you don’t KNOW. Not unless you’re clairvoyant and you are in her presence 24/7/365, and you aren’t.

    And she doesn’t know where you are, or what you do, or every thought you think.

    Nor should she. She doesn’t need to know the whole truth all the time. And you don’t need to know the whole truth all the time, either.

    Because the truth is that sometimes, you hate her, she grates on your nerves, and you’d rather be doing anything than working a job supporting her ungrateful ass. If you could, you’d have sex with her, her friends, her acquaintances, your secretary, and the MILF from 4 houses up the street.

    The truth is that sometimes, she hates you, she’d rather be filing her nails than having you jackhammer away on her, she thinks you’re gross and smell bad, and she sometimes thinks about her ex boyfriend.

    The truth is that if you actually knew these things about each other, you’d both run screaming from the room away from each other, you’d never talk to each other again, and no marriage would EVER survive. Except for a few marriages I know of, all of which are from the Manosphere Ladies’ Auxiliary.

    Hence: Not everyone needs to know all the truth all the time.

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  79. thedeti says:

    Very truly yours,

    Niccolo Machiavelli

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  80. Farm Boy says:

    Reichstag Fire

    [Been “had” we have]

    [(https -> http) = visible (this time anyway)]

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  81. Farm Boy says:

    “He egged on his supporters” yesterday, the Democrat-Media Complex claims. But that’s exactly what the Democrats have done on an ongoing basis since the morning of November 9, 2016.

    The Left projects. Always. If you hear a committed progressive claim that Trump is stealing Easter eggs from children, it’s a sure thing you’ll catch them hiding brightly-colored shell fragments from a crying child.

    https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2021/01/07/insanity-wrap-120-welcome-to-banana-republic-usa-n1312123

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  82. Cheque d'Out says:

    Very strange show. Why are they still talking about procedure and legalities? The fucking legal process is dead, you morons. The law means nothing anymore.

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  83. Cheque d'Out says:

    Or rather, the law means nothing good for you anymore. It’s the weapon of your enemies and rulers.

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  84. Hey all you law and order types! They just changes the law so that now you’re their slave. Did it all nice and legal. Law passed by your elected representatives. SCOTUS gave them a big after. How you feel about law and order now?

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  85. “The truth is that if you actually knew these things about each other, you’d both run screaming from the room away from each other, you’d never talk to each other again, and no marriage would EVER survive.”

    Deti wins 2021.

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  86. Watch the Secret Service murder a woman on the other side of a locked and barricaded door.

    [video src="https://gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/061/372/793/original/e9a936199fd8aa71.mp4" /]

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  87. Mike Pence thanks the murderer.

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  88. Cheque d'Out says:

    I can’t help but think that the shooter could have put a round into the wall ahead of the woman without any risk to himself and had her back off immediately. He wasn’t being charged at, was in no immediate danger. I don’t think that the guy deserves to be in a uniform, he hasn’t the required judgement. Might look good in a prisoner outfit, I suppose. Is his action prosecutable for murder or manslaughter?

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  89. RichardP says:

    From deti’s post upthread: Not everyone needs to know the whole truth all the time.

    In one of my undergraduate classes we had to write a paper, arguing some point or other. I chose to focus on Benjamin Franklin, who served as an American diplomat to France for two years. His task was to gain French support for American Independence.

    My paper focused on fleshing out a quote of Franklin’s from his time as an American diplomat in France: Sometimes it can be very useful to let people think you are a bumbling idiot. They don’t always need to know that you are not (a bumbling idio) (paraphrased). Franklin went on to explain that, in letting folks think you are a bumbling idiot, that helps them let their guard down because they think you are nothing they have to guard against. In doing this, your “opponent” will very often tell you directly what it is they need from the negotiations in order to support your position. Or confess to a weakness of some sort that you can then use against them in your negotiations with them. (And, for the young guys who might not know, marriage is one lifelong negotiation.)

    There was a bit more to it than that, but deti’s statement echos what Franklin himself found to be true. The professor of my class agreed with deti and Franklin’s point so much that he read my paper to the entire class.

    I think the Democrats employed this line of reasoning very effectively during the election and the counting of votes. Spoken to the Republic side: you don’t need to know what it is that we are doing – as they manipulated the vote count. Not suprisingly, the State courts, the U.S. Supreme Court, and the joint bodies of Congress agreed with that sentiment.

    Who cares what the Democrats are doing / have done. You don’t have any Constitutional right to know everything. You don’t need to know the truth about whether what we are doing violates the U.S. Constitution.

    That’s the American way, right? If it was good enough for Benjamin Franklin, I guess it is good enough for us. [/sarc]

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  90. Cheque d'Out says:

    Bloody Hell…they’re still Q-tarding!

    Is there anything that he, Trump, can do now that won’t end very badly for him? The time to sort this election was two or three years back. Now, whatever he does, he is very easily made to look like a despot. DECLAS and the resulting trials should have been done years ago.

    So much for 4D/5D chess FFS

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  91. Cheque d'Out says:

    I think that BloJo is possibly a good example of playing the fool but I can’t be completely sure as I look at his recent behaviour and wonder if there’s any acting involved. I would also point out that his fool act(?) was possibly part of why the eu continued to play hardball for so long. They thought that he’d fold. Now I’m glad that he (apparently) didn’t fold but I wonder what deals might have been possible if they’d realised that he was serious earlier? Could both we and the eu come to a better deal? I guess that we’ll never know.

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  92. theshadowedknight says:

    Yeah, Q really hurt us. While everyone sat around “trusting the plan” and not doing anything useful, the left took action. Democrats and Republicans set up the theft of the election while so many on the right were pulling fantasies from what looks like random keystrokes filled in with a word or two. The left rigged the election and planned out a coup while people on the right trusted in Q’s “plan” instead of doing something to counteract the left’s actual, legitimate plan.

    Now its war. Sooner or later, this will break into conflict, and I suspect it is going to look more like the Russian Revolution rather than the American one. Well, thats it, time to pack it in for America. About the average run for a democracy, so just goes to show that the Constitution is gay and the Founding Fathers were nothing special.

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  95. Ame says:

    Deti nails it again.
    I’ve often said … Kids don’t need to know everything about their parents, and parents don’t need to know everything about their kids.

    Deti proved that’s true all across life and all relationships.

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  96. RichardP says:

    … just goes to show that the Constitution is gay and the Founding Fathers were nothing special.

    Ummm – no.

    Well, maybe yes, sort of. Not perfect, but not ordinary. They understood that their Document had to account for the vagaries of human nature. Their document, the U.S. Constitution, exists only as it is put into imperfect practice by imperfect humans. Their document is of no account if it just sits under glass in a museum for people to look at

    John Adams: Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

    Benjamin Franklin, age 81, speaking before the Constitutional Convention: …when you assemble a number of men to have the advantage of their joint wisdom, you inevitably assemble with those men, all their prejudices, their passions, their errors of opinion, their local interests, and their selfish views.

    Benjamin Franklin, upon the election of George Washington as our first President: The first man put at the helm will be a good one. Nobody knows what sort may come afterwards. The executive will be always increasing here, as elsewhere, till it ends in a monarchy.

    Benjamin Franklin, at the end of the Constitutional Congress: Elizabeth Powell asked Franklin, “Doctor, what have we got? A republic or a monarchy?” To which Franklin responded, “A republic, if you can keep it.” Powel immediately shoots back, “And why not keep it?” Franklin responds, “Because the people, on tasting the dish, are always disposed to eat more of it than does them good.”

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  97. b g says:

    RichardP

    “…And, for the young guys who might not know, marriage is one lifelong negotiation….”

    LOL, okay, but being an inveterate romantic, I still prefer the term “dance” ;-D

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  98. theshadowedknight says:

    Their document, as special as it was, lasted no longer than the Athenian or Roman attempts did. They made no significant improvement on the examples they already had. They copied someone else’s homework and acted like it was divine guidance.

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  99. RichardP says:

    @b.g. – to continue your point: I can accept “dance”. Now, tell me – does anybody lead? If yes, how is that decided (another word for negotiated)?

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  100. RichardP says:

    They copied someone else’s homework and acted like it was divine guidance. … made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. (John Adams)

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  101. b g says:

    RichardP

    Hmmm, was a time when that was pretty much settled when she first kissed her man back ;-D

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  102. Sharkly says:

    “We have stood by and done nothing while the strong foundation was destroyed in small acts, one piece at a time. Each piece was seen as too small to fight against.”

    The fault of the church was that it became pacifist, right off the bat. The “not resisting evil” and “turn the other cheek” probably wasn’t a literal overriding command, but like cutting your right hand off or plucking out your right eye, in that same chapter it was pointing to the fact that nobody can physically be holy enough, like God, to not need a redeemer. Nobody when sued for their coat gives their cloak to their adversary also, as Matthew 5 also speaks of doing.
    But yet the church, without a good shepherd, went pacifist, and so then the church spreads its legs for every forceful dick that comes along ready to inseminate it with newer ideologies. Conservatives, largely being made up of churched folks, thus get rolled on their back with regularity by anybody willing to put up a fight. They ignore the stuff about Jesus saying it is time to sell their cloak and buy a sword.
    Luke 22:36 He said to them, “But now let the one who has a moneybag take it, and likewise a knapsack. And let the one who has no sword sell his cloak and buy one.

    Conservatives are now saying, “how can I buy a sword with my cloak, When I’m also giving my cloak to the liberals who have taken the shirt off of my back?”
    Our nation was most Godly, when it was willing to confront and fight evil, not when it wrings its hands and says that we can’t fight back, because that’s fighting.

    Roosh once explained this pretty well:
    https://www.returnofkings.com/191761/conservatives-are-losers

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  103. Sharkly says:

    Boeing gets fined $2.5 Billion for dishonesty.

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  104. RichardP says:

    @b.g. – I said lifelong negotiation. You said you preferred the term “dance”, and I replied that I could accept that designation. But with the word “lifelong” still in front. So – lifelong negotiation, or lifelong dance, it is still lifelong. As people and situations change over time. It would be the rare marriage (and I accept that they may exist) where the things agreed to at the beginning did not need to be re-negotiated over time, as people and/or circumstances change.

    I do not see this re-negotiation, or changing up of the dance, as either positive or negative. I just see it as part of the natural ebb and flow of the relationship over time. A rather pedestrian example of the concept is this (and you can think of others from your own life): the man whose wife has had three miscarriages in a row is not going to continue on with his wife dancing the same dance as they did at the beginning. After three miscarriages, she will no longer be the same woman, with the same hopes and dreams, that she was at the beginning. Neither will he be the same man. Reality has changed things, and the dance needs to be renegotiated so that it continues to benefit both partners.

    b.g. – given that I was speaking to the young guys about their approach to married life over time, I assume you agree with my point in the main. It is useful to learn the art of negotiating / dancing. There will be many points in their life, over time, when they will have opportunity to employ that skill. But hopefully he will still kiss her. And, hopefully, she will still kiss him back. But evidence shows that this will happen most often only when they have renegotiated the dance to the satisfaction of each. If one or both come to resent the renegotiated dance, there will come a significant tear in their time/space continuum. This is useful information for the young guys just starting out to know.

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  105. Farm Boy says:

    Portland’s Mayor Ted Wheeler Punched By Antifa While Out Eating Dinner With A Woman Who Was Not His Wife…

    https://www.weaselzippers.us/462205-portlands-mayor-ted-wheeler-punched-by-antifa-while-out-eating-dinner-with-a-woman-who-was-not-his-wife/

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  106. Farm Boy says:

    For once I agree with her

    Emily Ratajkowski Says Facebook Banning Trump Gives Zuckerberg Too Much Power

    https://summit.news/2021/01/07/emily-ratajkowski-says-facebook-banning-trump-gives-zuckerberg-too-much-power/

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  107. Farm Boy says:

    AOC’s Comms Director Asks Twitter To Ban Users From Citing AOC’s Support For Violent Riots.

    https://thefederalist.com/2021/01/07/aocs-comms-director-asks-twitter-to-ban-users-from-citing-aocs-support-for-violent-riots/

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  108. Farm Boy says:

    Blast from the past

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  109. Farm Boy says:

    Covid question of the day – How does Covid compare to a very bad flu?

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  110. Farm Boy says:

    YouTube: Any Channels Claiming The U.S. Election Was Stolen Or Fraudulent Will Have Their Video Immediately Deleted…

    https://www.weaselzippers.us/462197-youtube-any-channels-claiming-the-u-s-election-was-stolen-or-fraudulent-will-have-their-video-immediately-deleted/

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  111. Farm Boy says:

    But Mullin argued that every individual there was responsible for their own actions:

    “I disagree with that. We’re all responsible for our own actions full stop. It’s our actions and you can get — we’re all adults here or supposed to be adults,” he began. The representative then alluded to the media’s bias in covering the Trump presidency and polarizing the country: “These flames have been fanned for over five years now,” he began.

    https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/kristine-marsh/2021/01/07/stephanopoulos-bristles-when-gop-congressman-brings-medias-role

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  112. Farm Boy says:

    China Forcibly Sterlizes Uighur Women in Concentration Camps, But Praises the Forcible Sterilzations as “Emancipating” the Women from Being “Baby-Making Machines”

    http://ace.mu.nu/archives/392030.php

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  113. Sharkly says:

    Generally I rely on my reputation, and just expect to be believed. I think people tend to trust me, because I act like they should trust me. And because I’m consistently truthful, even when it is costly.

    However I will sometimes swear to my honesty when discussing my marriage, just because my wife’s behavior is so bizarre and counter productive, that I wouldn’t believe it myself if somebody else were telling it to me.

    There is a difference between being untruthful, and not volunteering information that wouldn’t be edifying.

    Although sometimes omissions are intentional deceptions:

    Yesterday in court it was said, that one time when I went to pick up the boys, the cops were called out. To make it sound like I’m a danger to my family. It never got explained that I was in fact the one who had to call the police on my wife, because of her illegally refusing to turn the boys over, while using them in an attempt to force money from me over bills that were disputed. No, it just got left hanging there as if some concerned neighbor had to call police because of a disturbance. The truth certainly got suppressed again yesterday.

    Apparently the other side had prepared for a long time to broadside us, with more malicious litigation, and my lawyer only found out the day before and we were totally unprepared to show the judge what was really going on. Apparently the court had erroneously taken him off my case, not sent him any of the filings, and he didn’t discover it until after I got stuff taped to my door much later. But there we were in court having my wife being granted “emergency” full custody, because I’m “dangerous” according to a woman whose disorders makes her prone to irrational fears, and her lawyer who claimed I was a danger to my sons, because I’m angry about being kept from them for most of the last three years based entirely upon their false accusations, and their refusal to comply with their own agreements. Once again cunt-court gave my crazy wife custody of the kids because of accusations that I’m a danger to them, by the same team who has been shown to have falsely claimed that exact same thing before. While after three years my accusation regarding my concerns of my wife being a danger to the children, which predates our divorce, has still not even been allowed to be heard. And I found out that a report from three years ago refuting their earlier claims, still wasn’t even part of the court records yet. It was just more male bashing.

    They were trying to order a third psychological evaluation for me because I passed the last two with no disorders or addictions found, like they were claiming would be found. While my wife who already has three diagnosed disorders and is on psych-meds has never yet been evaluated to any degree, despite my constant concerns regarding her mental fitness to be ruling over that court by reason of having a vagina. Nor did she ever participate in any joint counselling in the best interest of the kids, even though she had agreed to, but weaseled out through intentional deception for a year and a half. She knows that if she ever participated in any joint counselling, the counsellor would have had issues with her constant nasty intentional distancing behaviors, that she would be asked to explain.

    Anyhow, it really looks to me like absolutely everything about how they have operated was rigged against me, and their is zero protection for me and my sons against my wife’s lawyer’s malicious prosecution, and if I complain about any of their injustice against me and my sons, then they get outraged and claim that gives them even more reason to screw me over. There is no injustice that they won’t give full force of law against me, and there seems to be no possible way that they can be forced to do anything that is in agreement with God’s laws. Whatever God is for, they are reflexively opposed to. The only thing they won’t do is ask a woman to “submit” to an evaluation that her husband feels should be done in the best interest of the children. While it sounds like they are trying to get me evaluated a third time claiming that the “red pill” has somehow now rendered me a danger to my children. Lots of Feminist point and shriek was going on.

    Apparently If the female side files false public charges that I am a sex addict, to such a degree that I am too dangerous to be with my own sons, and my sons are told that, it is perfectly OK. But if after 2.5 years of being wrongfully denied my children by this system and allegations that have been long since thoroughly disproven, I make posts stating that I’m not the one with the poorly controlled sexual behavior, I’m somehow not acting in my sons’ best interest, because my boys might someday hear the actual truth about their mother’s life. Supposedly I’m endangering the boys by allowing some truth to become public, whereas when they lied to the boys that I was such a horrible danger to them that “the police are protecting them from their father” based upon accusations long proven false, there is no problem with that.

    It is just anti-father BS. Public lies told directly to the children about their father are OK, nothing will ever result from female lies and false accusations. Whereas after 2.5 years of being denied to even speak in court to ask for what needs to be done in the boys interest, when I resort to trying to solicit help from elsewhere I get my kids taken away again.(even though I haven’t actually seen or spoken to them in months) The “family” court seems to be nothing but the jackboot of Feminism, the Feminism enforcement court. My sons have been denied a father for three years based upon false accusations, and now they deny them for longer because I’m claimed to be not acting in their best interest by trying to go outside the system to somehow have a voice and request a speck of justice. It’s Freaking Orwell’s 1984. Truth=bad, Lies=good.

    Apparently Hosea, who illustrated God’s perfect love, is now an abusive parent for telling his children:
    Hosea 1:1 Say to your brother, “Ammi,” and to your sister, “Ruhamah.” 2 Plead with your mother, plead— because she is not my wife, and I am not her husband. Let her put away her whoring from before her, and her adultery from between her breasts.

    We live in such an evil Feminist generation that It is fine to slander a father with lies about his sex life. But yet publishing even some non-graphic truth about their mother is considered so great an abuse of the children and offense against woman-worship that they just shouldn’t ever get to have time with their father? Did I mention that they put marriages asunder, which Jesus Christ forbid, for a living. Satan’s minions! At this point I don’t think they are capable of justice because they are so deluded by satanic Feminism. They reflexively hate the Bible, and those who are guided by it.

    Unless God works a miracle and for once they allow a father’s legitimate concern to be given the same force of law that they have given my wife’s disproven irrational fears, then we will shortly be divorced and my kids will continue to be robbed of their father. And nothing will have ever been done “in the best interest of my boys” except for ripping their father out of their lives, demonizing him, and having the boys alienated from me for three years straight by their mother who has an addiction to fighting against emotional intimacy. And then they act like it is a crime if I object to their evil injustice. They reward my wife’s infidelity and marriage covenant breaking by stealing my sons for her, my inheritance from my father, my future wages, my reputation, and my freedom, all for “no fault”. May the lord rebuke them.

    LOL Satan’s minion also tried to claim that asking the lord to rebuke them was a threat. She thought that rebuking was smiting, apparently her vocabulary of Biblical terms is really weak. The Good Book must be treated like Kryptonite by divorce lawyers.

    Malachi 4:5 Behold, I send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and terrible day of the LORD: 6 and he shall convert the heart of the fathers to the sons, and the heart of the sons to the fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with destruction.

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  114. Farm Boy says:

    Joe Biden, who absolutely refused to denounce the domestic terrorist organization antifa at a debate (and who was supported by the media in his refusal to condemn their paramilitaries), now demands Trump condemn alleged MAGA supporters as “insurrectionists”

    http://ace.mu.nu/

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  115. b g says:

    RichardP

    Fair enough, for me much of negotiation/dancing occurs during the courtship phase. Mind you, if one doesn’t pay close attention to your partner’s moves, one is likely to end up dancing by them self.

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  118. Farm Boy says:

    Blast from the past

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  119. RichardP says:

    @b.g. said: Mind you, if one doesn’t pay close attention to your partner’s moves, one is likely to end up dancing by them self.

    I like that.

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