Projection Revisited


We last looked at projection here.  Have you ever noticed that there is a correlation between people who engage in projection and those who seemingly have problems seeing reality as it really is?   And yes, there truly is such a correlation.  Let us examine the psychology.  Note that some psychology provides effective models of people, and some doesn’t.  In this case, it would seem to be an effective model based on what is seen in real life.

From Wikipedia,

Psychological projection is a defense mechanism in which the human ego defends itself against unconscious impulses or qualities (both positive and negative) by denying their existence in themselves while attributing them to others.

Projection tends to come to the fore in normal people at times of personal or political crisis  but is more commonly found in personalities functioning at a primitive level as in narcissistic personality disorder or borderline personality disorder.

Examples,

  • Projection of marital guilt: Thoughts of infidelity to a partner may be unconsciously projected in self-defence on to the partner in question, so that the guilt attached to the thoughts can be repudiated or turned to blame instead, in a process linked to denial. 

  • Bullying: A bully may project his/her own feelings of vulnerability onto the target(s) of the bullying activity. Despite the fact that a bully’s typically denigrating activities are aimed at the bully’s targets, the true source of such negativity is ultimately almost always found in the bully’s own sense of personal insecurity or vulnerability.  Such aggressive projections of displaced negative emotions can occur anywhere from the micro-level of interpersonal relationships, all the way up through to the macro-level of international politics, or even international armed conflict.

  • Projection of general guilt: Projection of a severe conscience is another form of defense, one which may be linked to the making of false accusations, personal or political.

Let us consider Feminist Types.  Why are they such harpies that few people like?  Why are they so accusing?  The simple answer is that they are projecting.  Why are they projecting?  Perhaps it is because they protecting their ego from their positions are so incoherent with respect to reality.  Does anything more really need to be stated here?

Exit Question — Would Feminists rather be correct or liked?

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91 comments on “Projection Revisited
  1. Jack says:

    Wikipedia says normal people project. That’s not true. People who project are psychopathic liars trying to mould your brain. Projection is a red flag. Close up business and get out of town.

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  2. okrahead says:

    Exit question… The problem is they cannot tell the difference. Feminism is gamma behavior in female form; if I can prove to everyone I’m right about everything I’ll be popular and loved.

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  3. okrahead says:

    Jack,
    I think sometimes normal people project good, whereas psychopaths project bad. I’ve known plenty of “good” normal people who simply cannot believe the depravity that’s going on in our inner cities right now because they project their own morality/compassion/empathy onto the sociopaths running loose. They can no more get their heads around people really being that evil than the psychopath can get his around other people being good.

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  4. okrahead says:

    I mentioned this at the tail end of the last thread, but it looks as if Stephanie has taken her blog down. She recently stated that one of her husband’s co-workers/friends had his house shot up.

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  5. Jack says:

    @ Okrahead,
    I agree that some decent people project optimism, but they are still lying to themselves. Maybe denial would be a better word for this.

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  6. theshadowedknight says:

    Eh, hard to feel sorry for cops when they do this shit to anyone who tries to defend themselves. They can get fucked if they are going to back antifa terrorists over normal Americans. As far as I am concerned, them getting their house shot up is well deserved. If people cannot feel safe on their houses because of the police, then the police shouldn’t feel safe either.

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  7. Ame says:

    tsk – some of everything/everyone is always bad. making innocent ‘pay’ for that is wrong.

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  8. okrahead says:

    TSK,
    Contrary to the apparently popular opinion here, I still believe the majority of cops in the majority of locales are good people trying to do the right thing. What we are seeing is prosecutors elected by Soros’ money hamstringing their efforts, which serves to destabilize society as a whole, which has been Soros’ plan all along. See, for example, the two police officers currently under indictment in Atlanta for a completely righteous shooting, the exasperation of the Portland, Chicago, New York, etc. police rank and file being forced to stand down by their elected leaders. At the end of the day beat cops have little more political power than anyone else, and the BLM/Antifa/Soros/Biden game plan is to create a rift between the populace at large and the police. With regards to Blacks and hard core progressive Whites this has already happened. You are correct to be angry that the police are de facto protecting BLM/Antifa rioters; but all our anger (I share it) should be focused on the right target, and that’s not the men on the front line.

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  9. okrahead says:

    TSK,
    I followed the link you provided, it is EXACTLY a case in point of what I was talking about. You have a Soros supported prosecutor issuing a warrant to search the premises. The cops have two options, serve the warrant or turn in their badges. I know your answer is probably “turn in their badges,” but that accomplishes nothing. The problem is the prosecutor taking Soros’ money and working to completely de-stabilize society. Making war on the cops only strengthens her hand.

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  10. theshadowedknight says:

    They made their choice. Yeah, they might have been pressured, but there it is. When they were told to defend antifa, they went in and took the rifle from that couple. When antifa turn on them, they will find no defense from me. I will not defend the cops when the cops will not defend me.

    They chose their side. They made their bed, then got in bed with antifa. Well, they can lie in that bed. You lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas. They will get no sympathy from me.

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  11. Sharkly says:

    Speaking in terms of degrees. All people project to some degree. I was actually trained to by many during my formative education to try to put myself into other people’s shoes and imagine how they would think or feel about a situation. Yet it hardly ever works, for me, since I don’t hardly ever think how others think.
    For example: I typically expect people to be more honest than they really are, because I personally don’t get dishonesty on a fundamental level, considering my beliefs about and fear of God. Fundamentally dishonesty is you openly failing to the point of denying reality before your Judge who already knows everything. It doesn’t make sense to tell lies, in light of our eternal existence being decided by an all-knowing God who hates those who turn aside to lies. I’m not really very good at accurately projecting, yet lesser folks will label that a “lack of empathy” and try to make it into some fault. You’ve got to be wary, the psycho-babble can be twisted every which way. The pure of heart, who aren’t full of guile, can’t as easily empathize with those who flippantly pervert their way, even though they constitute the vast majority of people. My eternal Judge will hopefully pardon me for my purported “lack of empathy” because I was never gotten that deep within the counsel of all His ungodly enemies.

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  12. What’s the difference between projection and expectation?

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  13. Cheque d'Out says:


    I don’t think that this will work unless you recognise Fred West and his wife or know about his habit of killing lodgers and burying them on this property (a distinctly urban property).

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  15. horsemanbombadil says:

    So is ZFG the opposite of projection?

    I really don’t care what strangers think of me so I keep to myself.
    In most social situations I am the guy in the corner quietly but attentively listening and observing. If asked I will give my opinion but know involvement is seldom worth the effort.

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  16. horsemanbombadil says:

    Okra and Shadow

    Totally agree with you. The situation will not resolve until all the affects of the actions are realized.

    The politicians, DAs, Soros etc. are all projecting. Seeing the outcome of these actions thru their view of the world. “I can control this, it will unfurl this way.” No you can’t, no it won’t.

    The turning point will be when enough of each group goes their own way.

    Cops and other ems resigning below minimum staffing.
    Citizens acting in self interest having no faith in rule of law
    Activist groups emboldened to point of ludicrious wants
    Politicians making decrees that cancel each other out.
    Suppliers of everything closing by choice or bankruptcy.

    Society depends on a good form of projecting.

    “I don’t have to act solely in selfish self interest because my efforts for the greater good will be returned to me.”

    This belief is all that smooths the natural opposition of different world views.

    Without belief in society as a thing any control is lost. “I do for myself therefore I rule myself.”

    The same way feminism and mgtow changed gender relations in unintended ways groups going their own way is going to radically change our world.

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  17. horsemanbombadil says:

    Without the control institutions how does Soros or BLM or whoever think they can guide the unravelled society?

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  18. Stephanie says:

    Hey Okrahead, Ame emailed me last night checking up. Nothing’s wrong, I just decided I wasn’t sure what to write at this time, want to wait until the dust settles before taking up one of my sweet mentor’s plea for some of us to write for police wives. I want to wait and see on that – see if it’s even worth it in the end.

    I am taking a nice long break to focus on life and praying. I did this last election, although I didn’t take the site down, just sort of had a long, silent moment to reflect and (back then) beg God to have mercy on our nation, since it felt like Life or Death with Hillary possibly winning. I remember walking the hallways at night, silently praying and weeping for our nation to be rescued. I didn’t believe Trump would win, and then he did, and it felt like God was giving us such a relief.

    But there’s so much evil going on right now. A lot of evil that the media refuses to publish. Torture of innocents – in mass! Stuff that has led me to understand what happened that led up to things like concentration camps. Many people Do. Not. Care. if innocents like children, elderly, disabled whites are tortured and killed. And it’s already happening. I feel like I can sense God’s extreme anger with our nation. He gave us 4 years and so many people (in their self-righteousness usually – those damned Never Trumpers) still couldn’t get behind Trump (and yes I know he’s not perfect) or bring themselves to face and stand up to the evil that was growing. Christian pastors are largely useless… but then y’all know all of this already 🙂

    This time I’m not at all emotionally distraught, it’s very strange, but I’m completely at peace with God pouring out His wrath… I believe He already IS pouring out His wrath and that’s part of what we’re seeing happening. I believe it may get a lot worse, and want to take these few months before the election to focus on praying. I do have hope, but it is a strange hope that is almost welcoming whatever comes.

    There are so many wonderful, brave men out there… it is truly touching to see what they say! I’ve seen brave men who are already retired from military or police, want to come back to fight. I’ve seen one man I’ve admired for years who I believe is in his 70’s but still in incredible shape, he’s confessed he believes he’s going to die this year in combat, he just feels it in his soul. He took an oath, and he will honor it to defend this nation (and specifically white people).

    We’re doing great though! In spite of everything, life is still beautiful in many ways.
    Summer school is half-way done, the kids are loving summer and even love doing their special chores that are different from the fall and spring. And we live in a beautiful area surrounded by people who are like-minded about what’s going on, even though we’re very racially diverse over here, it’s nice to be able to trust people where you live. We have a Filipino family across from us who are wonderful strong Christians ❤ We carry over vegetables from our garden from them, and they cook the most delicious out-of-this-world food for us!

    We're going to be starting a home church in our house this fall, since Covid is still limiting our religious freedom. But ultimately, I probably won't be around online. Just too much to focus on in the real world at the moment.

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  19. Stephanie says:

    I do miss reading y’all hilarious stuff! Wish you all well and praying for ALL of y’all specifically.

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  20. I have seen projection many times and often wonder if people are even aware they are doing it, or if they truly believe it?

    Case in point, there’s a guy on Facebook locally who I have just watched but don’t interact w. He’s got TDS. When he describes the right, you would think he was describing the left to a T. But he clearly does not see it. I of course am also not going to jump into that but it’s so strange, like an alternate reality. You would think it was T supporters riooting, loting, setting stuff on fire, off the chain, etc. He seems to believe the left is entirely blameless, while the right are lawless heathens. So weird.

    Projection can be very confusing And manipulative until one gets hip to it.

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  21. Have been thinking of you lots Stephanie and am glad to hear you are well. XOXOXO

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  22. Cheque d'Out says:

    Keep strong, Stephanie and Family. Best wishes

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  23. RichardP says:

    Stephanie, thanks for the heads up. Four children to care for will certainly force one to re-order their priorities. It would be nice to see comments from you, or life updates, from time to time.

    @tsk: You say that you agree with the sentiment of the protestors, loosely expressed as: If we can’t feel safe on the streets while doing our thuggery, no one should feel safe in their homes.

    Your credibility would be enhanced greatly if you would demonstrate in your comments that you understand that life is cummulative, that all behavior is motived, that cause builds on cause. You could demonstrate that by simply saying something similar to this: no thug on the street should feel safe so long as law-abiding citizens do not feel safe in their homes and businesses. That comes first. Big time, that comes first. Only when that issue is solved is it logical to turn our attention to making folks at home feel unsafe so long as the thugs cannot feel safe while committing their thuggery.

    Different issue. From the link that tsk posted:

    St. Louis Circuit Attorney Kim Gardner, the city’s prosecutor, said … Make no mistake: We will not tolerate the use of force against those exercising their First Amendment rights,

    Problem with journalism of this kind is they are counting on the incorrect (or absent) education of their readers. The folks that the linked article is discussing (the protestors, not the home-owners) were not excercising their First Amendment rights. The “use of force” was not directed toward folks who were excercising their First Amendment rights.

    The First Amendment right is directed to those folks engaged in “peacable assembly”. The protestors discussed in the linked article had destroyed a fence, which gave them the ability to trespass. That is not peaceable assembly. Therefore, the First Amendment is not in view here in this story. The home-owners prepared a defense against possible trespassers. No such defense is ever needed against those who are peaceably assembled – the only group that the First Amendment is concerned with.

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  24. Jack says:

    @ Sharkly,
    Empathy, or putting yourself in someone else’s shoes is not projection. I think you don’t understand projection very well.
    Please read here for more.
    https://sigmaframe.wordpress.com/2017/12/09/psychological-projection-and-the-mirror-effect/

    @ KHH,

    “What’s the difference between projection and expectation?”

    Psychological projection is when people subconsciously presume that other people, have the same thoughts, values, and motivations that they do, and treat them accordingly. It’s a psychological defense mechanism which implies some degree of madness.
    Expectation has a couple different meanings. One meaning is simply holding an anticipation that something will happen. It can either be true or false. Another meaning is presumptuously assuming that things should be a certain way, different, or better, and is a symptom of discontent or denial.
    The big difference is that projection is a subconscious expression of a false, alternate reality, whereas expectation is entirely conscious and sentient in nature.

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  25. SFC Ton says:

    Cops are assholes who do what the govermnet says for money. Most are neither good or bad.

    Been there myself except the assholes I went after weren t my own citizens

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  26. I too am watching things unfold in disbelief. The dark for sure has come out of the shadows. I pray T prevails as I cannot imagine the opposite. As for people not caring about the innocents etc. I don’t believe that’s so, many are working to help expose the dark. It truly does feel biblical. These people who seem to be S minions, they all have this same dark druggie… something almost Satanic energy… and I wonder who are they, where did they come from? I know a lot of college kids get wrapped up in it but I am talking about the truly hardcore, it’s almost like they have been raised to be minions. I dunno maybe I am overthinking it but yes, dark. In my area regular citizens are organizing… and it’s inevitable… if Leo are not allowed or empowered to keep order someone will. I felt dread the last election for sure, but this feels worse to me. The desperation is palatable. I keep having to go back to faith, and Good Wins, and be not afraid. And I am focusing on making our little world work and safe, and have to pull back from the larger picture to focus on that. But weird times for sure.

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  27. SFC Ton says:

    The law in Garham NC and Alamance county keep doing what’s right by God and man. They are about the only cops I know of worth backing and I promise you half them dudes are shit birds who would back antifia of that’s what their paycheck said

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  29. Jack says:

    @ horsemanbombadil,

    “So is ZFG the opposite of projection?”

    An interesting contrast. I suppose it is in a way. ZFG is essentially maintaining an awareness of personal boundaries and social responsibilities, whereas those who manifest psychological projection tend to be utterly unaware of any boundaries or responsibilities.
    Please read here for more.
    https://sigmaframe.wordpress.com/2020/07/10/how-to-develop-an-attitude-of-detachment/

    “Society depends on a good form of projecting.”

    What you are referring to is not projection at all. You are talking about the general habit of having a good will towards others, and honestly engaging with others in the good faith that others will have a good will towards you. Western society is quickly eroding in this respect.

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  30. RichardP says:

    @rpg: a “joke” from my childhood: Q: What is the quickest way to get rid of temptation? A: Give in to it.

    This is not meant to be a belligerent comment. Just a practical one.

    You say The dark for sure has come out of the shadows.

    Why? Really. Why?

    To get rid of Trump. And if he can’t be gotten rid of, then to neuter him. Keep him ineffective.

    Q: How to get the darkness to go back into the shadows?

    A: Defeat Trump.

    Seriously. If all of the agitation and mayhem is designed to ensure that Trump does not get elected, then it will disappear when he is defeated. Alternately, if he is not defeated, but wins, we can expect a seriously intense escalation in the darkenss and agitation and mayhem.

    Matthew 24:21-22 says: For then there will be great distress, unequaled from the beginning of the world until now—and never to be equaled again. If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. (For those who don’t know, the days will be cut short by the return of Christ according to the Bible)

    For those who are “in Christ”, is it better to say “there, there, don’t fret; things will get better”, or “gird your loins, we are entering the bumpy part of the ride”?

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  31. Yes Richard this could be and if it is so… but I still don’t like all the darkness! 💕

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  32. RichardP says:

    @rpg – I agree. And, if the Bible is correct, we are not going to like all of the mayhem and all of the not being able to buy and sell unless we have the Mark of the Beast, and all that. But, if we believe the Bible, we know that things go steadily downhill until things are ended by God. Even if, as some do, we believe that Matthew 24 took place prior to and during the destruction of the Second Temple.

    Rod Dreher has been having a run of threads dealing with the concept of the entire world, and the U.S. in particular, slouching toward the end times. Don’t know if you visit there, but you might check him out if you haven’t already. He reminds me of the kid who always threatens to go tell mom when people are mean to him (whiney), but that personality issue is irrelevant to the fact that he raises and discusses (and has excellent commenters) relevant and valid issues.

    https://www.theamericanconservative.com/author/rod-dreher/

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  33. Cill says:

    If we lose America, we will have no place to go…

    If we lose America, we lose the entire western world.

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  34. RichardP says:

    @Jack said: Wikipedia says normal people project. That’s not true. People who project are psychopathic liars trying to mould your brain.

    If we are defining “projection” in the way that the social scientists define it, then it is true that normal people project. But normal people also have some idea of when they are projecting, and so don’t order their lives by their projects. I think the pathology occurs when folks do not / can not recognize they are projecting, and so order their lives by their projects – which mostly have nothing to do with the what is that we need to live by.

    This is an experiment, to see if a picture appears. If it does not, I will create a link to the picture in a new post.

    Whenever I see this picture, my pulse quickens, my breathing increases, and I go weak in the knees (figure of speech). This picture, to me, out of all pictures I have seen, comes the closest to representing my “perfect woman to take for a wife”. She also resembles quite a bit what my wife looked like when she was that age, and so there is that.

    But my intellect kicks in and I realize that part of my attraction to this picture comes from me assuming what her voice sounds like, what her laugh sounds like, from assuming that she is kind and compassionate and bright and witty, and that she has and exercises discernment, and a host of other things that I won’t mention here.

    In other words, my attraction to this picture occurs only because I project onto the picture all of the parts of her that the graphical image does not give me information on. I project onto her all of the attributes I want her to posses that will make her attractive to me. That is projection, and we all do it. However, some are able to recognize when they are projecting and make sure they don’t act on their projections. Happy is the man who meets the woman behind the picture and discovers that she does, indeed, possess enough of his desired attributes that he wants to take her to wife. (Ignoring the whole “folks change over time, both in looks and values and behaviors based on those changing values.)

    This is meant only for the picture. The article may be useful for some, but I am not posting this because of the article.

    https://relevantmagazine.com/issues/issue-94/the-evolving-faith-of-lisa-gungor/

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  35. Stephanie says:

    “As for people not caring about the innocents etc. I don’t believe that’s so, many are working to help expose the dark. It truly does feel biblical. ”

    ^^I know. I’m sure a lot of people do and would care, but I think it’s also true to say that there are many people who don’t right now. Many white people are too busy taking a knee and hearing stuff like that preached at church (and believe it). And part of why they don’t care enough is because the media is not reporting everything going on… I think if the media did report on all the massive assaults on whites right now, far more people *would* care and they don’t want those people to be that passionate about what they’re fighting for.

    Their first win in this game is to get people to believe we’re not actually in a war. And for what it’s worth, I’m not even sure Trump wants to fully understand he’s in a war.

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  36. Cill says:

    The darkness was established before the advent of Trump.

    Feminists took over education and poured their hatred of the Patriarchy into the minds of the young. The MSM joins in and malignment of Western civilisation fills the screens and papers. Uneducated people are invited into a virtually borderless and increasingly lawless West. Two generations later, suddenly millions of brainwashed, misinformed fools have the vote and fill the streets to tear down civilization.

    Women with their feminism are the white man’s weakness. His weakness is in tolerating and enabling their weakness. When it comes to women, the white man is the biggest fool of all.

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  37. okrahead says:

    Stephanie,
    Glad to hear you and yours are safe. I’ll continue to pray for your family and your husband in his mission.
    Now, re: projection and BLM/Antifa… Blantifa crowd are, to plagiarize an old slogan, “Criminals are a cowardly, superstitious lot.” Blantifa attacks only in packs, only where they are assured of protection from local prosecutors/mayors, only with their faces covered, only when they believe they have plausible deniability for their actions. They hang onto a plethora of unscientific quasi-religious beliefs as their motivation; i.e. “global warming”, “white supremacy”, “orange man bad”, Marxism, and amongst some of their leaders, primitive African animism. They are consumed with hate and fearful of exposure. AND THEY BELIEVE EVERYONE ELSE IS JUST LIKE THEM.

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  38. Yes, there for sure is a role the media is portraying in the illusion that, “these are just peaceful protests… what? Are you racist? Questioning it?” For sure. And a non-reporting of the stories that don’t fit the narrative.

    And it’s also true the right has replaced religion as the right/wrong with this “holier than thou” wokeness, the false idols of climate, equality, and all the rest. The people I know in real life who are drinking that Kool-Aid truly believe that it’s noble and they’re saving the world or saving the planet and they truly don’t seem to see the darkness or how they are being manipulated. Some have even seemingly crossed over so much so that I would fear them and how they might justify turning in the nonbelievers etc.

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  39. Cheque d'Out says:

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  40. And if we do come to a place where one must have the mark, then what? I don’t even like to think of it! Before these past few years could not even imagine it. But now it truly could be all technologically possible… scary.

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  41. I really do wish I had the ability and resources to track who some of these organizers are, where they are from, what if anything they have in common. Not to be drama but survivors of Satanic abuse report there are families who practice this on the regular and who work together and to have their own world that we don’t even see. Not to sound like the tinfoil hat person but I do wonder if some of these people are all coming out of that system and now coming forward because their system is under attack. I do disagree that T losing would would “solve” the unrest. I think in that case their plan will be accelerated before they lose the reigns ever again. But who knows… God is in control and his will be done, whatever that may be! Pray. 🙏

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  42. theshadowedknight says:

    Richard, the thugs should absolutely not feel safe on the streets. They should be subjected to beatings by all men of means and good character. Thugs, gangsters, and malcontents shold have to hide from honest men lest they receive the violence they so richly deserve.

    Who is blocking that? The police. Who guards antifa? The police. Who stands by and lets Black ISIS tear down and deface monuments? The police. Who sided with the left against decent, normal, honest Whites trying to make a living for them? The police. Who disarmed a White family when they dared defend themselves against threats? The police. Who arrested a pregnant White mother for defending herself from a family of savages? The police. Who let cities burn and turned their guns against those trying to protect themselves? The police.

    Who is my enemy?

    The police.

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  43. theshadowedknight says:

    Just to clarify, if I get stuck in and a cop helps me out? He’s a friend. A cop turns a blind eye to the mob when they get beat? He’s a friend, too. Policemen that intentionally sabotage the case against the wrongfully persecuted? They are on our side. That doesn’t describe the vast majority of cops. Until we break the power of the left, we cannot rely on the police, and they cannot rely on us. If they choose their paycheck and pension over doing what is right, they will find no support from me.

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  44. Sharkly says:

    Jack,
    Mainly I was ranting and rambling and giving an example of how people blur the lines between other terms, I was not really talking about projection, as you astutely noticed. But I still have more ranting to do. The victim is often labeled as the abuser, and good is labeled as evil and vice versa. When I want others punished for their offenses, I’m treated like I just don’t see things from their side, as opposed to being treated like a man who wants to live in a righteous world where evil is appropriately punished. As far as projection goes: I’ve spent 18 years getting blamed by an Intimacy-Anorexic for why she has continually destroyed any chance of intimacy between us. There is a huge amount of unconscious projection involved in the condition. Her never wanting intimacy, or even peace between us, always must somehow be my fault. LOL And the churches are so Feminist, that they can’t help but side with the woman even though she has three other diagnosed personality disorders and has been on psyche-meds her whole adult life.(except for when I got her off of them for a while)

    The righteous get called legalistic, as though wanting righteousness were a crime. Everybody just wants to call offsetting penalties, and live in a world where nobody is right and nobody is wrong. Both sides just need to understand each other better. F*** that, I understand evil plenty enough, and I think evildoers should be killed in accordance with God’s laws. They and their evil should be stamped out for the good of us all.

    If I fail to understand why another race should be allowed to attack me with impunity, it is said that I lack empathy, or am racist against those who would attack me just because of my White skin. Or perhaps they feel entitled to attack everybody because of their Black skin. Either way, that doesn’t make me the racist. In line with the Bible I feel like we should treat others how we would want to be treated. But nobody ever believes me!

    If I was rioting because I felt self-entitled to destroy the property of those who worked for it, and brutally beating up innocent folks whose own race was constantly being forced to resort to brutality just to stop mine from committing unwarranted felony crimes, and if I were burning down businesses unrelated to my exaggerated grievance, and toppling statues that I’m not emotionally stable enough to appreciate, and opportunistically looting during violent unrest, I’d want to be shot dead along with all my partners in crime. I swear to Jesus, nobody believes me, but if I was behaving like the BLM mobs that we are seeing destroying our civil society, I would hope and pray that God would send some wiser man to put me down like a dog.

    Why is that so inconceivable? Apparently, I must be the only one who thinks like that. Because others don’t seem to think I’d really want to be shot dead for looting, and made an example of for others, but, I actually would want that. I swear it! I’d rather be dead, than allowed to continue living as a lazy entitled thief who steals big screen televisions that are a necessity for nobody. I hate living in a world full of worthless people, without righteous principles, whose only concern is their own self-preservation and self-indulgence. Any person who does not live according to righteous principles is a failed person, who needs to be culled for the benefit, relief, and promotion of decent moral people. If you disagree, you’re likely one that needs to go. Luke warmness is no virtue. I’m sick of licentiousness being spun as moderation. At what point into depravity will our society reverse themselves, repent, and decide to stamp out the depraved? Or will it have to be done to us?

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  45. Sharkly it is true, I was in such a relationship also and they not only project onto you, they convince everyone else it’s you, also. Or try to! Defying your character and all that is part of the abuse. They convince people “you deserve it.”

    It happens in work and even “friend” circles, also. They estimate 1 in 5 people today are some form of narcissist or other personality dosorder, and this stuff is their stock in trade.

    It hurts enough when they do it, but when they turn others against you too, that really smarts. Been there, done that. They are parasites, toxic parasites that feed off good people,assume their network and social credibility, then hijack it and leave them a shattered wreck. Good times (not!)

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  46. Even weirder is when you watch that person move onto the next relationship and do exactly the same thing to another good person who has no clue what they’re getting into and it’s really sad to watch. I am watching it happen in real time right now and I estimate it’s about one year away from imploding. And the gal is a total sweetheart and she has basically liquidated all of her financial security trying to make him happy and I hate to say this, but once he drains her, he will discard her blame her, and move on wo a single shred of remote or regret while she spends years trying to figure out what happened and how to rebuild. At least they don’t have kids.

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  47. Ame says:

    garham? i thought you were in the obx … or somewhere on the water.

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  48. Ame says:

    For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.
    Ephesians 6:12

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  49. SFC Ton says:

    Jack described soical capital

    And we’re pretty much out of that shit too

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  50. SFC Ton says:

    Yup i’m on the intercoastal but there are these things called motorcycles and they are capable of traveling on these things called roadways at rather high rates of speed letting you travel from one town to the next

    It’s pretty wild shit. You should try it one day;)

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  51. SFC Ton says:

    To tell you about antifia and blm Graham NC has 15l people in it and one monument.

    Antifa/ blm has been there at least three times but their elected sheriff takes his job and heritage serious. Anifa had to sue him to get permits and he keeps two patrol cars in front of the monument 24/7

    Taking that monument down is personal to them, even if its just a small town and rural county.

    Imagine what they want to do to big city folks

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  52. Also I am hoping the preacher who made a strong case for rapture prior to end times was right about that… he said rapture, end times, then return but I know others see it differently… I will trust His will, whatever it is.

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  53. Ame says:

    LOL! glad you know the ‘safe’ places to speed through … makes a ride much more fun 😉

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  54. Ame says:

    Bloom – people i respect who study that stuff don’t agree … but those who are wise don’t argue b/c it does no good. that falls under “we won’t know till it happens,” so we have to let it go and, as you’ve said, trust. good thing He’s worthy of that trust; can’t imagine living without it 🙂

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  55. Sharkly says:

    redpillgirlnotes,
    Yes, it is angering when the wicked and abusive, assail your moral character. Fortunately I’m not personally emotionally as affected when they turn people against me. It helped destroy me financially when my wife turned my investor, and then my business partners against me, but her sabotaging my relationships with most others is of little concern to me. I’m outgoing, not unattractive, a little scary, smart, fun, and I can attract new friends like flies swarm to shit. LOL But It does bother me that she has my kids and is turning them against me, and that she herself is against me, when I have vowed to love her and lay my life down day after day just to be further abused. But God sees it, and it is all being recorded, my enduring suffering as a result of my longsuffering love is acceptable service in God’s eyes, and we are called to be Christlike in sacrificing for maintaining fidelity to God’s will. If I grow in grace and maintain my faith, my reward will be great. Or at least great compared to the small remnant from this wicked and adulterous generation who will squeak into heaven. Furthermore, even if nobody liked me and nobody wanted to be my friend, I’d still be a child of God’s, so I’m never truly alone, or without an advocate. You just have to know He’s there, by faith, as surely as I am there, wherever I’m at. Nobody can separate me form the love of God. I’m not afraid to die, I’m not afraid to loose what’s left of my money, I’ve lost lots of my stuff, and most of the rest probably needs thrown out anyhow. Only the eternal stuff is important. Don’t worry about the mark. Just make yourself ready to cross over from this cursed world to your eternal destination. Hold out for God’s mark.

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  56. SFC Ton says:

    Safe places was every inch of that road 😉

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  57. RichardP says:

    Said ton to Ame: It’s pretty wild shit. You should try it one day

    Interesting mental image: ton and Ame on the motorcycle, speeding down the road.

    I agree about the wisdom of not arguing over the end of days.

    For tsk – the police are order takers. I understand where there are individual instances in which the officers on the scene can choose what to do. But to stand down against looters and thugs on a department-wide basis? Those orders have to come from whoever on the City Council (or equivalent) is in charge of the city’s Police Department. I would think that the one who orders the police to stand down would be the enemy, not the officer who obeys the chain of command. Yes, they could all resign in protest over the order to stand down. But the absence of the officers due to resignation would only lead to more mayhem and property damage and death. I don’t see that as an acceptable alternative to the individual police officers biting their tongues and following orders from the politicians to stand down.

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  58. horsemanbombadil says:

    Trump DA MAN!!!

    Minneapolis says “Help us” (requests federal rebuilding funding)

    Trump whispers “No.”

    Best news in months!!!!

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  59. Jack says:

    Stephanie wrote,

    “[The media’s] first win in this game is to get people to believe we’re not actually in a war.”

    I see it quite the opposite. The way I see it, the media is trying to get people to believe that we are in a (cultural and racial) war, thereby provoking the discontented to behave in a violent manner. To tie this back to the topic, the media feeds the projection of liberals. It adamantly works against feeding the faith and good will of citizens.

    @ Sharkly,

    “Her never wanting intimacy, or even peace between us, always must somehow be my fault.”

    Yes, this is projection. She truly believes that you are doing all the bad things that only she does herself, and then she blames you for that.

    Richard P also described projection in what he sees in that woman, Lisa Gungor. Just from her appearance, he can convince himself that she has many traits that she might not actually have. However, this kind of projection is different from the classical examples of projection, because the substance of the projection arises from his desire and personalized needs. In crude language, he wants to believe in the soul mate myth. Pardon me for making an example out of RichardP, but I think every man is tempted to do this, and should be aware of it.

    @ SFC Ton,
    Social Capital – noted.

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  60. b g says:

    Well, I knew it was going to be a good raspberry year, but it took the girls three and a half hours to pick them this morning…four and a half ice cream buckets, then most of the afternoon to make 25 pints of jelly. Unless you find them in a farmer’s market or Amish or Hutterites, you simply cannot buy anything like that flavour. The girls done good ;-D

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  61. SFC Ton says:

    It’s been an insane here here for blueberries and blackberries.

    Watermelons and strawberries not so much. Decent volum on water melons, none have been great tasting. No idea what happened to the strawberries. If I had the time I’d try my hand atn aqauponics again

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  62. Ame says:

    i could get sick on blueberries and watermelon.

    when i was pregnant the first time, i was sooo sick, but i could eat watermelon 🙂

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  63. Stephanie says:

    “They made their choice. Yeah, they might have been pressured, but there it is. When they were told to defend antifa, they went in and took the rifle from that couple. When antifa turn on them, they will find no defense from me. I will not defend the cops when the cops will not defend me.

    They chose their side. They made their bed, then got in bed with antifa. Well, they can lie in that bed. You lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas. They will get no sympathy from me.”

    ^^I know this may sound nuts coming from me, a police wife, but I understand what you’re feeling… it’s very valid. A lot of officers (probably most) understand why you or anyone would feel that way. MANY are turning in their badges because they feel like you do – that this is evil, retiring yesterday, and yes, some are refusing to follow orders because it violates their conscience. There have been reports on those things, but you’d have to search for them, because they’re probably not popular.

    A main part of the goal is to get a massive exodus of good men from law enforcement, and it’s already happening. The good officers are already leaving in mass, and for MOST left in places where they haven’t been pushed that far, they will also leave when they get pressed to it. Then you’ll only have the bad ones left who don’t mind doing dirty work, violating people’s rights like you’ve seen, defending Antifa instead of arresting them. The police academies will have to further lower their standards and let anyone in (bad people), or maybe Antifa thugs will decide it’s a good idea to become the New Police. But that’s how it’s going to play out. The police will then become your Enemy, because in most places, the people who are making their orders *want* them to become your enemy.

    Many of these things are already set in motion and I don’t see them being able to be stopped.

    The good officers are going to be basically living in exile, doing other jobs, and waiting… ready for a war if it comes to that, but otherwise, forced to be “illegal” (because neighborhood militias will probably be declared illegal) if they choose to operate.

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  64. Ame says:

    hey Spawny peeps – just wanted to say how much i appreciate and love all of you! so thankful to have this place to go to when i can – y’all are awesome! let me know if ever there’s anything i can do for you or pray for you 🙂

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  65. b g says:

    Never did well with any melons, and didn’t even try citrus. We might have a long growing season, but we don’t have the heat for any length. I could grow Cuban tobacco, but it was truly a bitch to cure because of increasing humidity and decreasing temperature in the fall.

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  66. theshadowedknight says:

    Stephanie, the men that turned in their badges rather than turn on their fellow Americans were the only true lawmen, and that goes for those who stay and block as much as they can, too. That isn’t much, as people all over the US are learning. Missouri, Michigan, New Mexico, New York, Minnesota, etc. The cops betrayed their oath to protect and serve. The thing is that they won’t notice their lack of support until they go to look for it and find that no one is willing to back them up.

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  67. okrahead says:

    TSK,
    We’re in the part of LOTR (Two Towers movie) where Théoden has had his reason overthrown by Saruman and Wormtounge, and Eomer and the loyal Rohirrim are in exile. We’re waiting for Théoden to come to his senses, or to be healed by exorcism; in the meantime those loyal to their nation are stuck… They cannot raise their hands against the rightful king even though they know he is being controlled. That is where LEOs who are faithful to the job are in many places today.
    BLM/Antifa are getting exactly the reaction they want from you. Focus on returning reason to the seat of authority and thus freeing the police to at last do their job. Turning on the cops while they are under attack from Blantifa is playing into the hands of the enemy.

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  68. RichardP says:

    @Jack said: Pardon me for making an example out of RichardP, but I think every man is tempted to do this, and should be aware of it.

    That’s fine, just so long as you did recognize that I was providing that as an example, and that I recognize what is happening when I do that – I know that the person I create in my head is not real. And I don’t think I’ve ever believd in the concept of a soul mate. I think there are multiple folks out there that any given person would be more compatible with and less compatible with. Someone who understands that couples have to work to build a useful life together could build that useful life with any one of a number of the folks they are compatible with. (simple description).

    I was thinking in the more general term that projection is the mental process by which people attribute to others what is in their own minds. My example had me attributing to a picture all of the desired information that the picture didn’t provide (timbre of voice, intelligence, kindness, etc.) You have correctly pointed out that the definition of Classical Projection described the situation where someone sees negative attributes in themselves and imagines that other folks have those negative attributes instead.

    All of the comments up to the point where I provided the link to the picture raise the question in my mind, re. the OP and feminism and my example of myself: Surely women project onto men in the same way that I described me attributing desireable qualities to the picture I posted (don’t want to personalize this by using her name – because she then becomes a person in this discussion rather than just a picture, and I don’t want to do that to her).

    I wonder what role that process plays in developing the bitterness in the more militant feminists. Example of a young girl: Here is the image of a dad. This is what I need from a dad. I attribute all of those needed qualities to my dad. Since he has those attributes that I need (because I am projecting those attributes onto him), but he won’t direct those attributes toward me (attributes that he probably actually doesn’t have) – I have no choice but to believe he is intentionaly dissing me and therefore I am mad at him. Over time, continuing to believe that he could, but he just won’t, leads to a deep-seated bitterness. When she is a young adult, that bitterness then comes out as lashing out at men in general.

    Or, apply that last paragraph to the young lady as she enters young adulthood and then does that sort of projecting of attributes onto a young man. When the passage of time reveals that he is really just an ordinary guy, with few or none of the attributes she projected onto him, the familiar internal dialogue starts: “I believe that he could, but he just won’t”. This leads to a deep-seated bitterness that grows over time.

    Is it possible to convince any given young lady, regarding her father or boyfriend, that it is not true that “he could, but he just won’t” (while accepting that sometimes, in some situations, it is true)? If it is not possible to convince the young lady that what she is doing (the projection or attributions) is wrongthink, then what is the alternative? Well, game has been described as the process of making her think you are who she wants you to be. But that only works until the passage of times shows her that you are not who she wanted you to be / who you presented yourself as.

    So, with regard to the OP – I’m wondering if those gals who manage to create a useful life together with their man are able to do so because they have been able to overcome the tendency to do what I described in my post with the picture (projecting attributes that you want onto the picture) – they know to take the fellow as he is, warts and all, because they see he has the ability and willingness to work with them to build a useful life together. And the same for guys: they know to take the young lady as she is, warts and all, because they see she has the ability and willingess to work with them to build a useful life together.

    This was not part of what I wanted to say, but something just occurs to me regarding Stephanie and the Purity Culture she has talked about. The longer a young person is kept away from their potential opposite-sex mate, to feel, to touch, to taste, to hear, to listen to, to be listened to – the more that potential opposite-sex mate becomes a picture instead of a real human being. And the more it becomes likely that the young person will project onto that picture all of the desireable information that the picture cannot provide. From this process, the process of projection I described in my previous post, comes the growth of unrealistic expectations. The, when the picture is finally replaced with the warm body, and the expectations are not met, discord results. What I have just described is a representation of many of the complaints I have read from folks who were part of the Purity Culture.

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  69. SFC Ton says:

    Stephanie,

    Neighbourhood militias are becoming a thing. Social media is making it happen

    I gave my name and number out on Saturday.

    By Sunday two men reached out for help in organizing their counties.

    One man put an ad on Facebook Saturday night, had 60 men meet him Sunday. I spent about 6 hours on the phone yesterday. Mostly with the same 3 people but that county had 60 men signed up, a basic command structure established, a PR team with a plan, training cadre with location and plans to call around for a lawyer on Monday.

    Them boys ain’t fucking around. It is possible the local cops will be out numbered by these guys by Christmas.

    They are doing this because of the police’s failure to maintain peace in a couple of large town’s near them. Fayetteville is a good size town for NC and it is becoming more lawless by the week, and that lawlessness is of course breaking down by racial lines. I doubt the town is big enough to get much national attention but now moon crickets are raising hell with atv’s and motorcycles. Them wearing masks is adding to folks concern… masks are a huge goverment mistake during this.

    Right now these guys consider themselves a back the blue organization, but for how long? I kind of see these men in the initial stage of the red pill. They know some things, like the police aren’t protecting people, property etc in certian areas. They are still blue pill enough to believe in the people not protecting them.

    If things continue as they are, one of two things will occur. Some of these police units will began to act independently of their command strucre/ do some version of working with these groups. Which will reinforce the citizens support for law dogs. Or some event will occur that will kill what’s left of their blue pill conditioning.

    This will be played out in Lord only knows how many times and in how many places.

    This is a serious under card problem for the police. If the police continue to turn their backs on middle class folks, middle class folks will continue to turn their back on the police. Within a year the police will have very few allies. I reckon the cops are ok with doing nothing hoping fall/ winter will do their job for them.

    The men I am dealing with want to respect the police. Cops are still very real, everyday heroes to them. That is a finite resource. The shine will be gone the 1st time this home defense crew backs down a mob the law dogs won’t engage.

    Question is, what will regular patrol cops like your old man do. Stuck like chuck in the middle of two growing and opposing factions. If these groups are smart they won’t allow anyone with ties to law enforcement in.

    A smart sheriff would be working with these groups as they come up. He’d make a meeting, thank them for their support and make them an offer like this. ” I don’t have the resources to defend everything in our county but if you stand unarmed watch at these less critical areas I will give you my gratitude for freeing up our resources to deal with these threats and i will give you the commo gear needed to get one of my response teams your way.” These assholes would eat that shit up and be co-opted on the spot

    Also, this is becoming a class warfare breaking point. Semi locally, like a 100 miles from Camp Ton, BLM etc threatened to march through a rich neighbourhood. The cops responded. The rich folks kept their private golf course open.

    BLM decided to march through a different neighbourhood. Minimal police presence. Everyday White dudes are watching this and doing the math.

    How long will the police be able to operate once middle class and working class White men turn their back?

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  70. SFC Ton says:

    Moral courage is way more rare and way more valuable then physical courage

    Most cops are failing the moral courage gut check

    If The Ton was a different sort of man I’d have sympathy for some of these cops.

    But we all make tough decisions every day.

    Maybe I’ll drink with them in Valhalla when this life is done but in this life we have very different objectives and I have 0 sympathy for the devil

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  71. Cheque d'Out says:

    Multiple public gathering events failed to produce WuFlu explosions

    Great news for any normal person.

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  72. Cheque d'Out says:

    Lot of common sense being talked around here. Reasoned conversation.

    Where did we go wrong? We’re all supposed to be frothing at the mouth and ranting (according to the leftards and other assorted NPCs)

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  73. SFC Ton says:

    Stephanie’s old man might be the enemy but her and their kids aren’t

    I’ll say the same thing to him and any LEO reading what I told my locals

    The day I have to choose between a monument and a cops well being, I’m choosing the monument. And I ain’t holding back because we’ve shook hands and I know your kids

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  74. Cill says:

    Gidday my American cobbers.

    Although I spent some time in the USA, I didn’t have much interaction with the police. I remember asking a cop for directions and he did look me up and down very closely before politely giving me the information I requested.

    If a cop had pulled me over and slammed me against a car, my first instinct would probably be to defend myself. My second instinct would probably be to remind myself that no individual can beat the police. From that moment on, my attitude toward USA police would be negative.

    Is it standard behavior in the USA for the cops to stop people on the slightest pretext and frisk them? Does it happen as often as the phone clips suggest?

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  75. okrahead says:

    Stop and frisk was a big thing in New York and Chicago and a few other places to bring out of control murder rates under control. The pretext was that if you are walking around with your pants down around your ankles the cops can often see if you have the butt of a pistol sticking out of your own butt. In non-firearm friendly jurisdictions this was justification to stop and frisk the individual in question, and then confiscate his firearm, drugs, etc.

    BTW, this worked in NYC and CHI. Federal courts shut it down and violent crime has exploded. As of this morning Chicago has fifty (50) homicides so far this month; well on the way to 100 for the month and accelerating.

    OTOH, the state where I live, the cops don’t do stop and frisk, nor would there be any reason to do so. We literally have more guns than people, CCLs are easy to get, and open carry is legal without a license. Also, we tend not to shoot each other very much, with the exception of a couple of urban cesspits with all of the usual b on b violence.

    I’ve been stopped by the cops lots of times (I drive well, but I drive fast). I’ve been armed almost every time I’ve been stopped the last twenty years. It’s never been an issue.

    When I was in college and working a summer job at a factory, I did see one of my buddies, same general age (maybe 20 tops) come into work one day after a weekend looking like he’d gone 10 rounds with Mike Tyson. Asked him what happened. He’d gotten a new car and took it to some back roads in Mississippi to see how fast he could go. Eventually picked up a few cops who chased him a LONG way across Mississippi at speeds over 100 mph (on back roads in Mississippi… How he was still alive I don’t know). Eventually cops managed to stop him. Cop walked up to the car, opened the door, grabbed him by the arm and told him to get out. In his own words, he said, “I yanked my arm away and told him not touch me.” Cops beat him down on the side of the road. He was a white guy, for what it’s worth.

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  76. Stephanie says:

    He’s definitely not the enemy you need to be worried about. But I do think some may not have the moral courage to risk having everything taken away from them. Most people, men and women, don’t have that kind of moral courage in general.

    Here’s a quick video for Cill… Then I must return to not reading/engaging 🙂 Y’all are too interesting LOL… and we all know Spawny’s Space is addictive LOL

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  77. Stephanie says:

    Join militias though!!! Don’t just wait and depend on the system holding up.

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  78. Cheque d'Out says:

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  79. Cheque d'Out says:

    I think that he’s:
    a) right to call their bluff rather than pander to them as has been the historical case. Ring the anti-Union bell and get more subsidies from the Union. Like the typical race or gender grift against soft-headed normeez
    b) probably right about the outcome of such a referendum. Most English probably like the Union but if it’s like a bad marriage and the woman cannot be made happy then maybe it’s time for divorce
    c) has identified the reason that the toxic Special Needs Partei keeps pushing another referendum but would shite themselves if they got one. Divorce would be a shitshow for them.

    The SNP survives by whipping up anti-English feelings but can only run the country with the subsidies from the Union. The EU cannot take Scotland in due to their hideous deficit (the Scottish one and the impending EU one after Brexit) and wouldn’t want to anyway (they need more countries paying in, not another financial drag). I despise the SNP as I despise all other political parties that put their own interests over their voters’. Meaning that I’m not a fan of the left.

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  80. Cheque d'Out says:

    Another proud day for British policing. This is how policing by consent (Peelian Principles) dies.

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  81. Cheque d'Out says:

    “The first thing I’m doing when I’m released tomorrow is to go down the pub and enjoy a relaxing pint away from all these rules, regulations and f**king barriers…

    -Terry, love, I’ve got some bad news……..

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  82. They arrested a 12 yo boy. Hmm, I wonder what color boys must be for arrest to be an option?

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  83. Cheque d'Out says:

    Some of his content is re-uploads of old material (from banned channels) like this.

    But he has some new material too.

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  84. Cheque d'Out says:

    Huwhy would you even need to ask?

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  85. Cheque d'Out says:

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/london-economic-meltdown-revealed-investigation-a4496441.html
    Revealed: The true scale of London’s economic meltdown as capital faces crisis not seen for generations
    An Evening Standard investigation: Saving Central London

    • 50,000 West End jobs at risk
    • 88% of people are uncomfortable using public transport
    • 96% drop in foreign bookings to the UK for July
    • 11 London branches of Pret shut down
    • Just 7,000 out of 120,000 back at work in Canary Wharf

    (Pret is a major sandwich (cold, not hamburger) and coffee chain)
    (Canary Wharf is pretty much the London financial centre)

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  86. SFC Ton says:

    That silly bitch got pulled from YouTube?

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  87. SFC Ton says:

    LOL when i talk about walking away from everything it always includes a Harely and my favoitre dog.

    It never includes a woman

    Which bothers The Girls on occasions but they’re replaceable

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  88. Cheque d'Out says:

    No the guy ripping her apart’s channel got killed. Repeatedly.

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