Plead For Forgiveness

Here in the US, the late 1960’s saw a vast expansion of the welfare state.  This brought vast changes in the black community.  Men who were, or could have been, responsible fathers were marginalized by the free money.   Many men could not compete with the government with respect to being a provider.  This free government money allowed women to play the field with little consequence, and they did.

On this Father’s Day weekend, let us consider all of the good (or good enough) fathers that might have been, but were not.  Consider the children who might have had a father, but did not.

Recently many white lefty types have kneeled down and effectively have asked for forgiveness.  It is right for them to do so; for their idealogical forebears were the ones who initiated and perpetrated this on the black community.  If anybody needs to apologize, it is these people and for this act.

Exit Question — How many understand this situation and how many are useful idiots?

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109 comments on “Plead For Forgiveness
  1. Sharkly says:

    Not to be a grammar grading Grinch,… but, black & white are the extreme shades of light and darkness, while only when capitalized can Black & White be the names of races. How can you folks be self-respecting racists and not know that? /S


  2. RichardP says:

    FB, your first paragraph implies that it was the rule rather than the exception that intact black families were productive members of society in the 1960s and that the expansion of the welfare state in the late 1960s caused the black women to drive those productive black husbands out of the family.

    I think the welfare state was not created to search for a problem. I think the Great Society would never have obtained a foothold if there were no problem to begin with.

    Having said that, I agree that, over time and due to the social programs enacted, women came to see the government as filling the role that a husband had filled up until that time. And that has created no end of problems. (The statistics at that last link do not break out numbers by ethnic group.)


  3. okrahead says:

    Well, yes, prior to the Great Society African Americans had higher rates of employment, had family stability rates higher than whites do today, and were engaged in criminality at a fraction of today’s rate.

    The problem is multi-pronged. One major issue is that in order to receive most U.S. welfare benefits the mother must not live with or receive material support from the children’s father. She can co-habit with a man, so long as he is not the father of her children, they are not married, and he does not provide her with material support. One might be inclined that a system which pays women to co-habit with unmarried lovers, but financially penalizes marriage and fatherhood was designed without the best interests of the recipients in mind.

    African-American women have by and large made a devil’s bargain where they eschew marriage for more government money. Once started on this course it becomes more and more difficult to change. African American men are, as a result, often excluded from their children’s lives. Marriage rates have plunged as government programs both disincentivized
    marriage, removed the stigma from bastardy, and discouraged active fatherhood.

    So paternalistic white liberals have removed the father and substituted the state, and now are surprised that the state cannot raise young men to be productive, non-violent members of society. We ignored millenia of experience on what it takes to raise successful young men. Our progressive forbears of the 60s sowed the wind and we are reaping the whirlwind.

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  4. okrahead says:

    As for the exit question, it has become a moot point. Whether witting or not our progressive leaders have created a monster they thought they could control for votes every election cycle, but now that monster wants more than they can afford to feed him. Welfare crumbs are not enough any longer, there are no fathers to teach hard work and patience, and the church is either absent or descended into feminist heresy. Something wicked this way comes.

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  5. b g says:

    Hmmm, well, I cannot be certain who exactly was responsible for the destruction of the black family, I do know who is largely responsible for the ongoing destruction of aboriginal families in Canada, and I would suspect also in America. The source is hardly paternalistic, nor is it maternalistic…the primary source are principally female social workers, few of which are married, even fewer of which are happily married. It’s enough to make a tough man weep.

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  6. Farm Boy says:

    Social workers cause problems, then get paid to try to fix them. What a racket.

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  7. RichardP says:

    @okrahead said: prior to the Great Society African Americans had higher rates of employment, had family stability rates higher than whites do today, and were engaged in criminality at a fraction of today’s rate.

    The problem is multi-pronged. One major issue is that in order to receive most U.S. welfare benefits the mother must not live with or receive material support from the children’s father.

    okrahead, you have repeated the “logic” that promtped me to comment upthread in the first place. Why would the United States offer welfare benefits to a black mother who had a husband who was supplying all she needed? I think the goal of the Great Society programs was to meet a real need that existed at the time.

    I think it is incorrect to think that the the Great Society was created as a means to encourage black women to drive their husbands from the home. But I do think that the combination of cars becoming more ubiquitous, and the arrival of the sexual revolution (I think those two things are intimately connected, as the cars got the teenagers out of the house and away from the watchful eyes of parents), served to create a surplus of pregnant women that could benefit from the welfare state – but only if their income was below the cutoff level. All three of those things happened at about the same time, historically speaking – abundant supply of cars, sexual revolution (probably wouldn’t have happened without cars), and the Great Society. Folks soon learned to take advantage of what the welfare state offered. Make the babies in order to get government money, but stay single so that the family’s “official” income stayed below the cutoff level.

    In the New Testament, Paul said to the Thessalonians in 2 Thessalonians 3:10: For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: “The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat.” In his diary, Captain John Smith at historic Jamestown writes that he, copying Paul, had to advise his men that, if they didn’t work, they wouldn’t be allowed to eat. Those two events, almost 1,700 years apart, demonstrate an enduring truth of human nature – the desire to survive off of someone else’s effort. Unfortunately, those who put the Great Society together did not sufficiently take that into account. I don’t think women as a group have it in them to enforce the “no work, no eat” ethic (look at that puppy-dog face; how can you deny him food?). And I don’t think women as a group will let men as a group intercede and enforce the “no work, no eat” ethic. Rather, they seem to be ramping up their advantage, given them by the law – as whiteguy and sharkley have been demonstrating.

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  8. b g says:

    Well, having had a couple of drinks with a buddy, I will tell you a much happier story. I was coming north and went a hard fifty miles out of the trip to visit a woman that had been a neighbour and a Mom for most of us. Her husband was dead and her three sons were teats useless and off to visit the Kispiox rodeo at the time. Her band had managed to steal enough government money to route water to part of the community, but not all…they wanted more government money to finish it.

    Well, I showed up and said that i could fix not only her water, but hot water, and the toilet and the shower for the price of maybe a beer or two ;-D She knew that I was joking. It only took one beer, and maybe a couple of cents of solder to connect things, Took longer to cover the pipes than the connections. Her husband was a truly good man and would never have willingly left her to have to an outdoor toilet in freezing temperatures.

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  9. Farm Boy says:

    African-American women have by and large made a devil’s bargain where they eschew marriage for more government money. Once started on this course it becomes more and more difficult to change. African American men are, as a result, often excluded from their children’s lives.

    Seems like institutional racism to me

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  10. RichardP says:

    I was going to end my last post upthread with the point made below. But, before I could, daughter came by needing attention. So I posted what I had, which left off the point below.

    Folks tend to phrase things as Left vs. Right, Liberal vs. Conservative. I think the real struggle is not that. Rather, I think it is between men and women. In desiring to acquire the most resources they can for their nest, and in being able to pass laws that get them those more resources because they can vote, I think men are the odd man out here. The laws are already on the books that set the stage for women to eat without working (welfare). So long as they can get away with it, I think they will continue to vote for that status quo. Plus maybe pass a few laws that will set aside a little something for the thugs as well. I don’t think the solution to this will be found at the ballot box so long as women can continue to vote more resources (welfare) for themselves.

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  11. Farm Boy says:

    I think it is incorrect to think that the the Great Society was created as a means to encourage black women to drive their husbands from the home.

    Does it really matter? That was the result.

    The people who instituted it don’t seem to mind it being the result

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  12. President B. Lyndon Johnson once said, “I’ll have those speed-walkers voting Democratic for 200 years.”

    Not so funny story. My wife keeps making (so far) unsubstantiated claims to some how being related to LBJ, to which I reply, “You know, he was a real scumbag, don’t you?”

    [Perhaps related to Elizabeth Warren she would be]

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  13. Not likely, as she actually has some Seminole ancestry, and Warren is whiter than a shark’s belly. Its funny that my blue and green-eyed children have Native American blood from both sides of the family (5th and 6th gen), but the white genes won all those battles too.

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  14. Black community has also been hit hard by immigration from Mexico and Central America, driving down wages and losing jobs, especially to illegals.

    For instance just a couple of years ago all the cleaning staff in our office building was black, mostly female, but a couple males. Now it’s all Mexican and or Central American. And you could see some blacks guys doing new home construction or landscaping. Now hardly ever, though my mother-in-law uses a black family-owned outfit to take care of her yard and whatnot.

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  15. Cill says:

    “My wife keeps making (so far) unsubstantiated claims to some how being related to LBJ” (KH)

    I guess the question “how you rate your wife?” could be answered by asking a different question, “do you hope her claim remains unsubstantiated?”

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  16. horsemanbombadil says:

    So who would be better to deincentivize against being useful members of society?

    Men who biologically designed for large reserves of energy, taking immediate action in the face of perceived danger, bore easily and act on their strong emotions?

    Women who biologically designed for preserving their energy, hide or cucoon from perceived threats, revel in minutia, and talk about their strong emotions?

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  17. okrahead says:

    The men. Because if they became incentivized to be productive on their own, their large reserves of energy, etc. will lead them to throw off their allegiance to the Democratic party and possibly rebel against the family court system as well. The last thing the Democratic party in the U.S. wants is for the black community as a whole to realize just how little they are getting for all they have given up.

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  18. horsemanbombadil says:

    Used to teach managers the idea of substitution and balance. Toaist duality.

    Whenever you “fix” a problem by removing something it creates a vacum or spot that must be filled on BOTH sides of the equation. Avoid the “warm body syndrome”

    Remove the distruptive bad apple and their (little) contribution must be picked up by others.
    Need to fill a spot for productivity any warm body will do and introducing a bad apples distruption.

    Plan for the vacum or empty on both sides

    Fire the dick but have a list of strong recruits ready.
    Observe new hires and fire at first sign of distruption.

    Remove men from providing for families and fill production with state money.
    Remove activity and purpose of men and fill with a new role for their production.

    Remove bad fathers influence and replace with church, state socialization
    Remove morality of being example for your children and replace with moral role in church or community

    Remove emotional need for bonding to a man and replace with sisterhood, reduced shaming
    Remove outlet, support for men’s passions and replace with mission or focused outlet.

    In each case only the first, female side of the problem was seen and acted upon.
    No one saw, cared about the latter side of the problem or the vacuum it was creating.

    The ying/yang symbol displays this idea of duality, often misinterpreted as need for balance.
    It is duality not balance.

    Things need not balance, rarely do, instead know that action on one side create a reaction on the other that must be considered and acted upon.

    We are seeing the outcome of natural forces of humanity trying to deal with the holes created.


  19. horsemanbombadil says:


    Agree IF there is a “thing” to focus them that way.
    A great force of change.

    Left directionless as currently, still a great force for change
    But that change is random and results in destruction not creation.

    Luckily men, americans in particular, seemed to be blessed with a seed for leaders to arise when needed.

    “And doubtless the good stone-work is the older and was wrought in the first building,’ said Gimli. ‘It is ever so with the things that Men begin: there is a frost in Spring, or a blight in Summer, and they fail of their promise.’

    ‘Yet seldom do they fail of their seed,’ said Legolas. ‘And that will lie in the dust and rot to spring up again in times and places unlooked-for. The deeds of Men will outlast us, Gimli.'”

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  20. “I’m for Black Lives Matter, …”

    And …., you lost me. Sorry for your troubles (not), but that’s what being “for” BLM or a similar Antifa-clone group gets you.

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  21. okrahead says:

    What he meant was, “I’m for BLM as long as their tearing up somebody else’s town and property. That doesn’t mean I want them where I live.” The moment the police actually cracked down on CHAZ he’d be first in line to go on the news complaining about how brutal the cops were. Leave CHAZ to its own devices.

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  22. There’s a house not far from me (and another just a bit further) with BLM signs in their yards. My wife went to college with the woman in one of them and I’d talked to the man a couple of times and I thought he was just vanilla Normie before, but now they are both dead to me.

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  23. Farm Boy says:

    The Associated Press announced on Friday in a blog post that it has updated its writing style to capitalize the word “black” when it’s used “in a racial, ethnic or cultural sense


  24. Farm Boy says:

    It is almost as if white liberals don’t want black people to succeed

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  25. Cill says:

    The Associated Press announced on Friday in a blog post that it has updated its writing style to capitalize the word “black” when it’s used “in a racial, ethnic or cultural sense (FB 4:57 pm)

    Do “Black” and “black” have different meanings or is this an example of ideology-building?

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  26. Tom the Maori says:

    Good morning friends from a sleepy brown fella in Aotearoa.
    I am brown not Brown thank you. 😉

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  27. RichardP says:

    @FB asked: Does it really matter? That was the result.

    I think it matters in the context that the creation of the Great Society is an example of the power of unintended consequences. And in the context of there are guys reading this blog and learning stuff. My comment was directed to that unseen audience, and horseman fleshed out nicely my point about the power of (and danger of) unintended consequences.

    ** When guys vote, they tend to vote for smaller government (leave me alone and let me work).

    ** When gals vote, they tend to vote for larger government (leave me alone and let me get / create the best source of resources that I can).

    That truth underscores the contention that the unintended consequences of the Great Society are not going to be solved at the voting booth.

    Statistics presented here and elsewhere over time demonstrate that guys as a group use fewer government resources than what they pay out in taxes. Gals as a group tend to use more government resources than what they pay out in taxes. It is more efficient to have the guys pay those excess resources directly to the gals within the context of being married. It is less efficient to assemble a government bureaucracy.and pay them our of the excess resources to take the excess resources from men and redistribute them to gals. That is one of the lessons taken from the Great Society. Things probably would have worked out better if government resources had instead been directed toward shoring up the family and ensuring the outlets for men that horseman talked about upthread.

    The take away from all of this is I think women don’t understand what they are doing to themselves by driving the men away with all of their nastiness. When there are no more excess resources for the government to transfer from the men to the women, the women who have taken the government as a husband will be in a world of hurt.

    Today is Brian Wilson’s birthday. So – from Brian, a song that could be sung from the creators of the Great Society to the women they have harmed:


  28. Farm Boy says:

    Has anybody made any progress with respect being able to articulate clearly what the protesters are protesting?

    Also, other than “defund the police”, has anybody seen any steroid clear proposed solutions to the problem that can’t be articulated?


  29. RichardP says:

    Sings the government to its wives: don’t worry baby – everything will turn out alright.


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  30. Tom the Maori says:

    Countries with most slavery

    Not much in the pale places eh. England and Europe and America are clean bro.

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  31. Cill says:

    I released yet another Tom the Maori comment from spam. It’s now at 6:42 pm.


  32. Tom the Maori says:

    Hey I took another look at the map. I had a good look. All those places with no slavery are pale people places all excpet Taiwan. Will I be spammed for pointing out the truth?

    [Truth very dangerous it is]

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  33. Cill says:

    Not that time Tom. Your cunning wording slipped through the spam net mate.


  34. RichardP says:

    Q: From an economic standpoint, what is the point of slavery? (Actually, has slavery ever had anything other than an economic standpoint?)

    A: To create products cheaply.

    American shoppers chase the cheapest product. (And which sex is generally the American shopper?)

    What was the outcome of that chasing of the cheapest product? American business moved their production operations off-shore. To where? Mexico and China. To take advantage of what? Cheap labor. And who provides that cheap labor?

    I do not buy Tom the Maori’s contention that America is clean. We benefit mightily from the labor of “slaves”. What does it matter where those “slaves” are physically located?

    For all of the women protesting about slavery, we can and should point out to them that they can do something concrete about it right now. Start buying products made in America. At the higher price that paying a living wage requries. Do we really think they will do that?

    Nope. Protest slavery but continue to promote slavery by chasing the cheapest price.

    They don’t even see the problem.

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  35. Well I had my first real life encounter with a libtard, it seems. Apparently she knows who I am and what I think better than I do and would not hear anything but. After about 10 minutes of her insisting I was a racist and a hater and filled w anger (when she was the one red in the face!) I asked her to leave. And won’t be hiring her for the project she wanted to bid on, either.

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  36. Exactly, globalization has allowed low price shoppers to bring it from slavery they don’t see because it’s happening elsewhere.

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  37. * Benefit not bring it


  38. RichardP says:

    FB asked: Also, other than “defund the police”, has anybody seen any steroid clear proposed solutions to the problem that can’t be articulated?

    Search Google on bls + “list of demands”

    A number of different lists come up. Here is one.


  39. RichardP says:

    Notice that most, if not all, of the problems addressed by the BLS list of demands could be eradicated by having the children raised in a strong, intact family – headed by a male that is allowed to do what males do best: establish and enforce boundaries, set and enforce adherance to values, provide vision and leadership for the entire unit, and raise sons and daughters who are grounded and who know how to manage their impulses.

    I find it interesting that BLS and others are not calling for that instead.

    [Too much work and not enough gratifying rage this would be]

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  40. Farm Boy says:

    One person was killed and another injured when a shooting erupted in Seattle’s autonomous zone early Saturday, and police are now inside the “no-cop” zone investigating, according to reports.


  41. Farm Boy says:

    [And sometimes to PP, even after being born they matter not]


  42. RichardP says:

    I said to search on “bls”. Should be “blm”


  43. If it’s the media talking put your money on ideology.


  44. They are protesting that the voices in their head sound like old white men and that when spirit animals were handed out they didn’t get an eagle or wolf, they got a beanie-baby.

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  45. Noticing brings the notice of malevolent spirits.


  46. From whom do you seek “reparations” when it’s your own damn fault?

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  47. Cill says:

    KH I got a dog. A good one.

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  48. Farm Boy says:

    Gratuitous images

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  49. Farm Boy says:

    NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) – As New Yorkers flee the city amid the coronavirus pandemic, parts of the city’s real estate market are rife with empty apartments.


  50. Twitter is nothing but “superspreader event!!!” And “This rally will kill people!!!” Not a word of that, of course, for the past three weeks when others gathered by the thousands… I guess the virus only infects at Trump rallies and at church?

    Happy longest day of the year!

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  51. Sharkly says:

    The dang AP is late to the party. I was taught to capitalize the races over 40 years ago at Seoul Foreign School.(Elementary) It was the most proper grammatical implementation, for clarity, to assure your reader that you were referring to the race and not the shade. It wasn’t a woke political statement, back then.
    I’d have more time in my day if half of it wasn’t spent on remedial education of the people I must interact with. Why do I as a ‘Mericun always get stuck having to teach the British and their colonial subjects, how to read and write the Queen’s English? Seriously! I’m like an unpaid English language tutor on the weekends! /S

    Lesson #2 In case you were wondering, and wanting to be grammatically correct; the “N-word” should start with a capital letter, otherwise the lack of capitalization could be interpreted as a slight against those who identify with the term.

    So please do capitalize Cracker, Honkey, Paleface Whitey, and Wypipo, when you are attempting to slur your Master-race. Übermensch requires it! /S LOL

    Remember all I have taught you, when I am kicked off the internet. I’d like to leave the internet more properly capitalized than when I came. So, best wishes to my brothers of all colors, and nationalities! Except the French, of course. 😉


  52. Cill says:

    To celebrate the fact that the sun doesn’t set on spawnyspace, here’s to the longest day up there and shortest down here. Cheers!

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  53. Farm Boy says:

    Later in the interview, Ali praised President Donald Trump, said that his father would have been a Trump supporter, and that Democrats “don’t give a s**t about anybody.”

    “I think Trump’s a good president. My father would have supported him. Trump’s not a racist, he’s for all the people. Democrats are the ones who are racist and not for everybody,” Ali said. “These [Democrat politicians] saying Black Lives Matter, who the hell are you to say that? You’re not even black.”

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  54. b g says:

    Well, it is the first day of Summer, and the Sweetie made strawberry jam with our Tristar ever-bearing berries. They are a little smaller than June bearing berries, but they are darker, sweeter, and have a flavour somewhat closer to wild berries. She used my wife’s recipe which is the standard with half again as much fruit; similar to her recipe for green relish, the standard plus half again as many green peppers. She liked what she liked ;-D

    She left me a pint which my brother in law will demolish on his toast come September, he has a bit of a sweet tooth ;-D

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  55. Sharkly says:

    Bear with me people. I’ve been having a really long day.

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  56. RichardP says:

    Probably the longest day you’ve had this year, right Sharkly?

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  57. Even w the faux ticket sales, the numbers don’t lie! People are following!

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  58. Cheque d'Out says:

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  59. Cheque d'Out says:

    I would say that this is how we learn about anarchy, but he’s a soy hipster and they never learn a damn thing.

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  60. Ame says:

    The young Millennials are becoming the force. I know they are. White Millennial women are running this show out there, folks. And he says that his daughter is sponsoring a Black Lives Matter event and that his whole family is gonna go under the exchange of ideas platform.

    And I know. I can’t tell you the number of conservative friends I’ve lost after their kids, particularly their daughters, went away to college for two years and they came home and they started talking — I couldn’t change my dad’s mind on anything. He didn’t think I was smart enough to know anything.

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  61. Farm Boy says:

    Lacking agreed-upon leadership, those who have naturally risen to the top have done so with force or intimidation. For example, rapper Raz Simone, real name Solomon Simone, patrols CHAZ on some nights with an armed entourage. Simone, originally from Georgia, has an arrest record for child cruelty and other charges. He usually conducts his patrols carrying a long semi-auto rifle and sidearm. Last weekend, a live stream recorded Simone handing another man a rifle from the trunk of a car.

    Not everyone in CHAZ recognizes Simone’s police-like presence, but no one is willing to stand up to him and his group. There have been consequences to those perceived as challengers or threats. Independent Los Angeles-based journalist Kalen D’Ameida recorded Simone and his crew in the early hours of Monday morning. He was spotted by one of Simone’s men, who manhandled him and demanded he turn over his mobile device. Simone’s team chased D’Ameida and tried to drag him to the security tent. He escaped by hiding in a construction site outside CHAZ until police responded to his 911 call.

    Those unfortunate enough to have homes or businesses within CHAZ — an estimated 30,000 residents — have no say over their new overlords. Residents have discreetly voiced their concerns to local media. Gunshots and “screams of terror” at night have been reported. A resident of an apartment building came out twice to ask protesters to leave the alley where the entrance is. They brushed him off.

    Every business and property inside CHAZ has been vandalized with graffiti. Most messages say some variation of “Black Lives Matter” or “George Floyd,” but other messages call for the murder of police. Most businesses are boarded up. “ACAB” — all cops are bastards, an Antifa slogan — is written over them

    Businesses outside CHAZ are also suffering. Last week, the Trader Joe’s in Capitol Hill announced it was closing immediately and indefinitely because of “safety and security concerns.” Then last Sunday night, around 100 angry protesters sprinted toward a nearby auto repair shop to “rescue” a comrade who had been detained. All it took to sic the mob on the business was one man yelling into a microphone inside CHAZ. According to the police report, the store’s owner, John McDermott, stopped Richard Hanks after he allegedly broke into the business, stole property and tried to start a fire. The owner and his son said they called police “multiple times” but cops and firefighters never responded


  62. And I know. I can’t tell you the number of conservative friends I’ve lost after their kids, particularly their daughters, went away to college for two years and they came home and they started talking —

    What kind of men listen to their teenage college daughters talking about white supremacy and systemic racism and think, “Wow, that $50k/year tuition is really paying off!”? Who the fuck pays for that shit? Doesn’t sound like those friends were conservative, Rush. Sounds like they were pudding-brained idiots to start with.

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  63. Farm Boy says:

    Predictably, there has been little to no coverage by the MSM about just how wrong Cuomo and Whitmer got things. If they were Republicans, we would be drowning in stories about it.

    There is little reason to believe there will be a day when journalists become responsible and take their jobs seriously again.

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  64. Farm Boy says:

    This holiday is a celebration that black people are good by virtue of the color of their skin, and white people are bad as their own skin tone demonstrates. Whites must stay in their homes and reflect on their inherent awfulness, which can never be atoned for and which will remain until the day that you die

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  65. Liz says:

    Happy Father’s day, fathers of Spawny space. 🙂

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  66. Happy Father’s Day to all you dads!!! 💕❤️💕

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  67. Seattle can re-open now, btw. But no word from the mayor on the shootings in Chaz/Chip/whatever… comments are good!


  68. Farm Boy says:

    VP for Research at Michigan State U. Forced to Resign After Blog Posts Deemed ‘Racist’

    “The Twitter mobs want to suppress scientific work that they find objectionable. What is really at stake: academic freedom, open discussion of important ideas, scientific inquiry. All are imperiled and all must be defended”


  69. Farm Boy says:

    Spot the Karen


  70. Farm Boy says:

    On Thursday, police arrested Robert James after he left the CHAZ. He is accused of sexually assaulting a deaf woman who was lured inside a tent. The same day, former city council candidate Isaiah Willoughby was arrested on suspicion of starting the arson attack on the East Precinct June 8.


  71. Farm Boy says:

    Statistics presented here and elsewhere over time demonstrate that guys as a group use fewer government resources than what they pay out in taxes. Gals as a group tend to use more government resources than what they pay out in taxes. It is more efficient to have the guys pay those excess resources directly to the gals within the context of being married. It is less efficient to assemble a government bureaucracy.and pay them our of the excess resources to take the excess resources from men and redistribute them to gals. That is one of the lessons taken from the Great Society.

    Are governments interested in efficiency?

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  72. Ame says:

    that’s adorable, Liz!

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  73. Ame says:

    ditto the girls – Happy Father’s Day to all you Dad’s out here! y’all rock!!! 🙂

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  74. Cill says:

    Well it ain’t Fathers Day here! You lot have got it all wrong again.

    You have your longest day on our shortest day and vice-versa; you persist in remaining up to 23 hours behind us all day every day; you forever stage your Summer when we have our Winter and you turned the world arse-side-up to put us on the bottom.

    And for the record, Fathers Day is the first Sunday of September. Everyone knows that. I’m really pissed off that you cis-gender male bastards are getting Fathers Day prezzies when I’m not.

    Shame on you.

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  75. Farm Boy says:

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  76. Cill says:


    Okay. Okay. I just wanted to know what a hissy-fit feels like… to sensitize myself to feminists and other oppressed brats.

    I wouldn’t describe it as an uplifting experience.

    [In a gretish mood you would be]

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  77. Cill says:

    FB 8:42 pm :

    Do you realize you have just competely upstaged me?

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  78. Cill says:

    Do you think the stripper who pegged Hunter Biden in the ass with a dildo while they smoked crack, then had his baby, wished him a Happy Father’s Day?

    That’s one of the most awfully funny things I’ve read for some considerable period of time.

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  79. So many empty seats at which rally again? 🤔

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  80. Farm Boy says:

    Well I had my first real life encounter with a libtard, it seems. Apparently she knows who I am and what I think better than I do and would not hear anything but. After about 10 minutes of her insisting I was a racist and a hater and filled w anger (when she was the one red in the face!) I asked her to leave

    Let me speculate here. Probably some very uncomfortable undeniable facts were laid before her. The logical implications of these were were obvious. She either tried to deny the obvious and/or accused you of being a hater/racist/whatever. She just can’t be wrong, for she is right. Perhaps she will rewrite history of how the discussion all went down to make her the hero and you the villain.

    It must be draining to maintain the cognitive dissonance. One result of this drain is to add to the emotional instability.


  81. Farm Boy says:

    To be honest, I would hesitate to go to a Trump rally. I am be very cautious as to not catch the Chinese virus. Perhaps the media might consider this.

    In short, the MSM is composed of rotten, horrible people

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  82. Farm Boy says:

    Student Newspaper at Syracuse U. Fires Columnist for Calling Institutional Racism a Myth

    “Say something the editors don’t like somewhere else, and you might find yourself out of a job.”

    [A myth it is not,
    Favor minority races with goodies institutions do]


  83. Farm Boy says:

    This bears repeating, what is white privilege? It is something that not all whites have, and something that minorities can have. Basically, it learning attitudes and behaviors that don’t mess up your life

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  84. Farm Boy says:

    The latest series of Covid-19 blunders is a timely reminder that the entire premise of the lockdown was hubris. The bureaucrats went from flattening the curve to believing that they could eliminate the virus and quarantine a population of 5 million people indefinitely from the 7 billion other people on the planet.

    They can’t. The inevitability of this program’s failure, however, does not mean we will abandon it easily. But we will abandon it.

    Governments don’t walk away from a policy merely because it isn’t working. They simply re-double their efforts, imposing more costs and stripping away more freedoms while the populace cheers them on to ever-greater acts of idiocy until we all exhaust ourselves and move on to the next crisis.

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  85. Cheque d'Out says:

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  86. Farm Boy says:

    MENLO PARK, CA—Facebook has introduced a new Karen reaction button for Facebook users to use when they see people breaking social distancing guidelines on their news feed.


  87. Farm Boy says:

    Here are the initial points from the Glorious Patriarch’s link

    According to the latest immunological and serological studies, the overall lethality of Covid-19 (IFR) is about 0.1% and thus in the range of a strong seasonal influenza (flu).

    In countries like the US, the UK, and also Sweden (without a lockdown), overall mortality since the beginning of the year is in the range of a strong influenza season; in countries like Germany, Austria and Switzerland, overall mortality is in the range of a mild influenza season.

    Even in global “hotspots”, the risk of death for the general population of school and working age is typically in the range of a daily car ride to work. The risk was initially overestimated because many people with only mild or no symptoms were not taken into account.

    Up to 80% of all test-positive persons remain symptom-free. Even among 70-79 year olds, about 60% remain symptom-free. Over 95% of all persons develop at most moderate symptoms.

    Up to 60% of all persons may already have a certain cellular background immunity to Covid19 due to contact with previous coronaviruses (i.e. common cold viruses).

    The median or average age of the deceased in most countries (including Italy) is over 80 years and only about 4% of the deceased had no serious preconditions. The age and risk profile of deaths thus essentially corresponds to normal mortality.

    In many countries, up to two thirds of all extra deaths occurred in nursing homes, which do not benefit from a general lockdown. Moreover, in many cases it is not clear whether these people really died from Covid19 or from weeks of extreme stress and isolation.

    Up to 30% of all additional deaths may have been caused not by Covid19, but by the effects of the lockdown, panic and fear. For example, the treatment of heart attacks and strokes decreased by up to 60% because many patients no longer dared to go to hospital.

    Even in so-called “Covid19 deaths” it is often not clear whether they died from or with coronavirus (i.e. from underlying diseases) or if they were counted as “presumed cases” and not tested at all. However, official figures usually do not reflect this distinction.

    Many media reports of young and healthy people dying from Covid19 turned out to be false: many of these young people either did not die from Covid19, they had already been seriously ill (e.g. from undiagnosed leukaemia), or they were in fact 109 instead of 9 years old. The claimed increase in Kawasaki disease in children also turned out to be false.

    Strong increases in regional mortality can occur if there is a collapse in the care of the elderly and sick as a result of infection or panic, or if there are additional risk factors such as severe air pollution. Questionable regulations for dealing with the deceased sometimes led to additional bottlenecks in funeral or cremation services.

    In countries such as Italy and Spain, and to some extent the UK and the US, hospital overloads due to strong flu waves are not unusual. Moreover, this year up to 15% of health care workers were put into quarantine, even if they developed no symptoms.

    The often shown exponential curves of “corona cases” are misleading, as the number of tests also increased exponentially. In most countries, the ratio of positive tests to tests overall (i.e. the positive rate) remained constant at 5% to 25% or increased only slightly. In many countries, the peak of the spread was already reached well before the lockdown.

    Countries without curfews and contact bans, such as Japan, South Korea, Belarus or Sweden, have not experienced a more negative course of events than other countries. Sweden was even praised by the WHO and now benefits from higher immunity compared to lockdown countries.

    The fear of a shortage of ventilators was unjustified. According to lung specialists, the invasive ventilation (intubation) of Covid19 patients, which is partly done out of fear of spreading the virus, is in fact often counterproductive and damaging to the lungs.

    Contrary to original assumptions, various studies have shown that there is no evidence of the virus spreading through aerosols (i.e. tiny particles floating in the air) or through smear infections (e.g. on door handles or smartphones). The main modes of transmission are direct contact and droplets produced when coughing or sneezing.

    There is also no scientific evidence for the effectiveness of face masks in healthy or asymptomatic individuals. On the contrary, experts warn that such masks interfere with normal breathing and may become “germ carriers”. Leading doctors called them a “media hype” and “ridiculous”.
    Many clinics in Europe and the US remained strongly underutilized or almost empty during the Covid19 peak and in some cases had to send staff home. Millions of surgeries and therapies were cancelled, including many cancer screenings and organ transplants.

    Several media were caught trying to dramatize the situation in hospitals, sometimes even with manipulative images and videos. In general, the unprofessional reporting of many media maximized fear and panic in the population.

    [Wonder if Trump read this before deciding to have a rally I do]

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  88. Farm Boy says:

    The mass encampments in the Occupy Wall Street demonstrations of 2011 were far less dangerous and appalling than Seattle’s autonomous zone protest, according to a New York police union executive


  89. Farm Boy says:

    FUGITIVE socialite Ghislaine Maxwell has been hiding out in a sprawling Paris apartment close to Jeffrey Epstein’s $8.6million pedo pad, we can reveal.


  90. Farm Boy says:

    I especially wanted you to notice that he talked about how he saw the political advantage in standing back and letting Seattle and other cities show us all how far they would decline under Democratic leadership. He’s ready to go in and help when asked — “Anytime you want we’ll come in, we’ll straighten it out in one hour or less” — but it’s also okay if they don’t ask


  91. […] Space: Plead for Forgiveness (2020 June […]

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  92. Cill says:

    Jack’s was the latest to be spammed by Askimet.


  93. Farm Boy says:

    Those “trackbacks“ almost always go into the spam filter for some reason


  94. Farm Boy says:

    Dear profs X, Y, Z

    I am one of your colleagues at the University of California, Berkeley. I have met you both personally but do not know you closely, and am contacting you anonymously, with apologies. I am worried that writing this email publicly might lead to me losing my job, and likely all future jobs in my field.

    In your recent departmental emails you mentioned our pledge to diversity, but I am increasingly alarmed by the absence of diversity of opinion on the topic of the recent protests and our community response to them.

    In the extended links and resources you provided, I could not find a single instance of substantial counter-argument or alternative narrative to explain the under-representation of black individuals in academia or their over-representation in the criminal justice system. The explanation provided in your documentation, to the near exclusion of all others, is univariate: the problems of the black community are caused by whites, or, when whites are not physically present, by the infiltration of white supremacy and white systemic racism into American brains, souls, and institutions.

    Many cogent objections to this thesis have been raised by sober voices, including from within the black community itself, such as Thomas Sowell and Wilfred Reilly. These people are not racists or ‘Uncle Toms’. They are intelligent scholars who reject a narrative that strips black people of agency and systematically externalizes the problems of the black community onto outsiders. Their view is entirely absent from the departmental and UCB-wide communiques.

    The claim that the difficulties that the black community faces are entirely causally explained by exogenous factors in the form of white systemic racism, white supremacy, and other forms of white discrimination remains a problematic hypothesis that should be vigorously challenged by historians. Instead, it is being treated as an axiomatic and actionable truth without serious consideration of its profound flaws, or its worrying implication of total black impotence. This hypothesis is transforming our institution and our culture, without any space for dissent outside of a tightly policed, narrow discourse.

    A counternarrative exists. If you have time, please consider examining some of the documents I attach at the end of this email. Overwhelmingly, the reasoning provided by BLM and allies is either primarily anecdotal (as in the case with the bulk of Ta-Nehisi Coates’ undeniably moving article) or it is transparently motivated. As an example of the latter problem, consider the proportion of black incarcerated Americans. This proportion is often used to characterize the criminal justice system as anti-black. However, if we use the precise same methodology, we would have to conclude that the criminal justice system is even more anti-male than it is anti-black.

    Would we characterize criminal justice as a systemically misandrist conspiracy against innocent American men? I hope you see that this type of reasoning is flawed, and requires a significant suspension of our rational faculties. Black people are not incarcerated at higher rates than their involvement in violent crime would predict. This fact has been demonstrated multiple times across multiple jurisdictions in multiple countries.

    And yet, I see my department uncritically reproducing a narrative that diminishes black agency in favor of a white-centric explanation that appeals to the department’s apparent desire to shoulder the ‘white man’s burden’ and to promote a narrative of white guilt.

    If we claim that the criminal justice system is white-supremacist, why is it that Asian Americans, Indian Americans, and Nigerian Americans are incarcerated at vastly lower rates than white Americans? This is a funny sort of white supremacy. Even Jewish Americans are incarcerated less than gentile whites. I think it’s fair to say that your average white supremacist disapproves of Jews. And yet, these alleged white supremacists incarcerate gentiles at vastly higher rates than Jews. None of this is addressed in your literature. None of this is explained, beyond hand-waving and ad hominems. “Those are racist dogwhistles”. “The model minority myth is white supremacist”. “Only fascists talk about black-on-black crime”, ad nauseam.

    These types of statements do not amount to counterarguments: they are simply arbitrary offensive classifications, intended to silence and oppress discourse. Any serious historian will recognize these for the silencing orthodoxy tactics they are, common to suppressive regimes, doctrines, and religions throughout time and space. They are intended to crush real diversity and permanently exile the culture of robust criticism from our department.

    Increasingly, we are being called upon to comply and subscribe to BLM’s problematic view of history, and the department is being presented as unified on the matter. In particular, ethnic minorities are being aggressively marshaled into a single position. Any apparent unity is surely a function of the fact that dissent could almost certainly lead to expulsion or cancellation for those of us in a precarious position, which is no small number.

    I personally don’t dare speak out against the BLM narrative, and with this barrage of alleged unity being mass-produced by the administration, tenured professoriat, the UC administration, corporate America, and the media, the punishment for dissent is a clear danger at a time of widespread economic vulnerability. I am certain that if my name were attached to this email, I would lose my job and all future jobs, even though I believe in and can justify every word I type.

    The vast majority of violence visited on the black community is committed by black people. There are virtually no marches for these invisible victims, no public silences, no heartfelt letters from the UC regents, deans, and departmental heads. The message is clear: Black lives only matter when whites take them. Black violence is expected and insoluble, while white violence requires explanation and demands solution. Please look into your hearts and see how monstrously bigoted this formulation truly is.

    No discussion is permitted for nonblack victims of black violence, who proportionally outnumber black victims of nonblack violence. This is especially bitter in the Bay Area, where Asian victimization by black assailants has reached epidemic proportions, to the point that the SF police chief has advised Asians to stop hanging good-luck charms on their doors, as this attracts the attention of (overwhelmingly black) home invaders. Home invaders like George Floyd. For this actual, lived, physically experienced reality of violence in the USA, there are no marches, no tearful emails from departmental heads, no support from McDonald’s and Wal-Mart. For the History department, our silence is not a mere abrogation of our duty to shed light on the truth: it is a rejection of it.

    The claim that black intraracial violence is the product of redlining, slavery, and other injustices is a largely historical claim. It is for historians, therefore, to explain why Japanese internment or the massacre of European Jewry hasn’t led to equivalent rates of dysfunction and low SES performance among Japanese and Jewish Americans respectively. Arab Americans have been viciously demonized since 9/11, as have Chinese Americans more recently. However, both groups outperform white Americans on nearly all SES indices – as do Nigerian Americans, who incidentally have black skin. It is for historians to point out and discuss these anomalies. However, no real discussion is possible in the current climate at our department. The explanation is provided to us, disagreement with it is racist, and the job of historians is to further explore additional ways in which the explanation is additionally correct. This is a mockery of the historical profession.

    Most troublingly, our department appears to have been entirely captured by the interests of the Democratic National Convention, and the Democratic Party more broadly. To explain what I mean, consider what happens if you choose to donate to Black Lives Matter, an organization UCB History has explicitly promoted in its recent mailers. All donations to the official BLM website are immediately redirected to ActBlue Charities, an organization primarily concerned with bankrolling election campaigns for Democrat candidates. Donating to BLM today is to indirectly donate to Joe Biden’s 2020 campaign. This is grotesque given the fact that the American cities with the worst rates of black-on-black violence and police-on-black violence are overwhelmingly Democrat-run. Minneapolis itself has been entirely in the hands of Democrats for over five decades; the ‘systemic racism’ there was built by successive Democrat administrations.

    The patronizing and condescending attitudes of Democrat leaders towards the black community, exemplified by nearly every Biden statement on the black race, all but guarantee a perpetual state of misery, resentment, poverty, and the attendant grievance politics which are simultaneously annihilating American political discourse and black lives. And yet, donating to BLM is bankrolling the election campaigns of men like Mayor Frey, who saw their cities devolve into violence. This is a grotesque capture of a good-faith movement for necessary police reform, and of our department, by a political party. Even worse, there are virtually no avenues for dissent in academic circles. I refuse to serve the Party, and so should you.

    The total alliance of major corporations involved in human exploitation with BLM should be a warning flag to us, and yet this damning evidence goes unnoticed, purposefully ignored, or perversely celebrated. We are the useful idiots of the wealthiest classes, carrying water for Jeff Bezos and other actual, real, modern-day slavers. Starbucks, an organisation using literal black slaves in its coffee plantation suppliers, is in favor of BLM. Sony, an organisation using cobalt mined by yet more literal black slaves, many of whom are children, is in favor of BLM. And so, apparently, are we. The absence of counter-narrative enables this obscenity. Fiat lux, indeed.

    There also exists a large constituency of what can only be called ‘race hustlers’: hucksters of all colors who benefit from stoking the fires of racial conflict to secure administrative jobs, charity management positions, academic jobs and advancement, or personal political entrepreneurship.

    Given the direction our history department appears to be taking far from any commitment to truth, we can regard ourselves as a formative training institution for this brand of snake-oil salespeople. Their activities are corrosive, demolishing any hope at harmonious racial coexistence in our nation and colonizing our political and institutional life. Many of their voices are unironically segregationist.

    MLK would likely be called an Uncle Tom if he spoke on our campus today. We are training leaders who intend, explicitly, to destroy one of the only truly successful ethnically diverse societies in modern history. As the PRC, an ethnonationalist and aggressively racially chauvinist national polity with null immigration and no concept of jus solis increasingly presents itself as the global political alternative to the US, I ask you: Is this wise? Are we really doing the right thing?

    As a final point, our university and department has made multiple statements celebrating and eulogizing George Floyd. Floyd was a multiple felon who once held a pregnant black woman at gunpoint. He broke into her home with a gang of men and pointed a gun at her pregnant stomach. He terrorized the women in his community. He sired and abandoned multiple children, playing no part in their support or upbringing, failing one of the most basic tests of decency for a human being. He was a drug-addict and sometime drug-dealer, a swindler who preyed upon his honest and hard-working neighbors.

    And yet, the regents of UC and the historians of the UCB History department are celebrating this violent criminal, elevating his name to virtual sainthood. A man who hurt women. A man who hurt black women. With the full collaboration of the UCB history department, corporate America, most mainstream media outlets, and some of the wealthiest and most privileged opinion-shaping elites of the USA, he has become a culture hero, buried in a golden casket, his (recognized) family showered with gifts and praise. Americans are being socially pressured into kneeling for this violent, abusive misogynist. A generation of black men are being coerced into identifying with George Floyd, the absolute worst specimen of our race and species.

    I’m ashamed of my department. I would say that I’m ashamed of both of you, but perhaps you agree with me, and are simply afraid, as I am, of the backlash of speaking the truth. It’s hard to know what kneeling means, when you have to kneel to keep your job.

    It shouldn’t affect the strength of my argument above, but for the record, I write as a person of color. My family have been personally victimized by men like Floyd. We are aware of the condescending depredations of the Democrat party against our race. The humiliating assumption that we are too stupid to do STEM, that we need special help and lower requirements to get ahead in life, is richly familiar to us. I sometimes wonder if it wouldn’t be easier to deal with open fascists, who at least would be straightforward in calling me a subhuman, and who are unlikely to share my race.

    The ever-present soft bigotry of low expectations and the permanent claim that the solutions to the plight of my people rest exclusively on the goodwill of whites rather than on our own hard work is psychologically devastating. No other group in America is systematically demoralized in this way by its alleged allies. A whole generation of black children are being taught that only by begging and weeping and screaming will they get handouts from guilt-ridden whites.

    No message will more surely devastate their futures, especially if whites run out of guilt, or indeed if America runs out of whites. If this had been done to Japanese Americans, or Jewish Americans, or Chinese Americans, then Chinatown and Japantown would surely be no different to the roughest parts of Baltimore and East St. Louis today. The History department of UCB is now an integral institutional promulgator of a destructive and denigrating fallacy about the black race.

    I hope you appreciate the frustration behind this message. I do not support BLM. I do not support the Democrat grievance agenda and the Party’s uncontested capture of our department. I do not support the Party co-opting my race, as Biden recently did in his disturbing interview, claiming that voting Democrat and being black are isomorphic. I condemn the manner of George Floyd’s death and join you in calling for greater police accountability and police reform. However, I will not pretend that George Floyd was anything other than a violent misogynist, a brutal man who met a predictably brutal end.

    I also want to protect the practice of history. Cleo is no grovelling handmaiden to politicians and corporations. Like us, she is free.

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  95. Farm Boy says:

    Meanwhile in Kiwiland

    Ardern’s private reaction

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