Cosmo Contradictions

When I was a youngster, I saw issues of the magazine Cosmo at the supermarket check line.  They had images of on the cover of hot women with article titles blasting in your face about attracting and keeping men.  I understood that Cosmo was the flagship for Feminism, with the independent women, the one that could do it all on her own, the one that didn’t need men, the one that decried the view of women as sex objects.

I had trouble reconciling all of this in my mind, but apparently lots of people (especially women) didn’t.  I suppose that some people wrote it all off as women can feel what they want, making sense is optional.  But is there more?  Perhaps not.  Should we take Cosmo seriously?  Probably not.   Have/do women take Cosmo seriously?  Many do.   What can we conclude from this?

Exit question:  Have you ever thoroughly checked out a Cosmo cover?

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281 comments on “Cosmo Contradictions
  1. h0neyc0mb says:

    Exit question: Have you ever thoroughly checked out a Cosmo cover?


  2. horsemanbombadil says:

    What the ever loving fuck is going on?

    Washing activists feet? This is beyond supplicant and almost blasphemous.

    The ritual cleansing with water is the invoking of the divine in almost all religions.

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  3. RichardP says:

    I understood that Cosmo was the flagship for Feminism … the one that decried the view of women as sex objects.

    I’m not sure that is an accurate view of Cosmo. For a while anyway, most of the articles were of the sort that aimed to teach the reader how to become the sex object that men would choose – over the other wannabes. I think Cosmo got bashed by the feminists quite a bit over that approach.

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  4. RichardP says:

    What the ever loving fuck is going on?

    Add to that – the MInneapolis City Council has voted to disband the police department. The mayor is (rightly) opposed to that. But apparently the City Council has enough votes to override any Mayoral veto.

    Throughout, I have seen multiple articles giving advice on what they think can be done to, as one woman commentor phrased it, stop the police from hunting blacks (statistics be damned).

    I have not seen one comment or article (other than maybe Tucker Carlson) address the most fool-proof method to stop the police from “hunting blacks”: tell the blacks to start behaving themselves and stop committing crimes. Little old ladies tending to their gardens are not very often, if ever, harrassed by the police. There is a lesson there. But it seems that lesson is not worthy of discussing in the public marketplace of ideas.

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  5. Sumo says:

    MInneapolis City Council has voted to disband the police department.

    There goes the neighborhood.


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  6. SFC Ton says:

    You had supermarkets?


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  7. SFC Ton says:

    I fully support disbanding and/ or defunding the police.

    They are the spear point of the left wing fuckers running this nation and no more cops would seriously reduce their power to fuck up our lives


  8. theshadowedknight says:

    I’m copying this from another place where I posted regarding defunding police. Its part of a couple of comments.

    When you hear defund the police, you seem to think there will be no method of armed enforcement. That isn’t how it will be at all. You will have community outreach centers, which will offer bread and circuses for the black mobs and tactical response teams that look like special operations units to deal with whites defending themselves. Anarcho-tyranny institutionalized and paid for by your taxes.

    You resist any indecency, insult, or imposition and you get peaceful rioters peacefully throwing molotov cocktails at your business and peacefully looting your inventory while heavily armed community outreach officers prevent you from violently defending yourself from the pavement apes peacefully beating you with the lumber and masonry the community outreach team members provided for that peaceful purpose.

    Think of antifa telling the blacks to find the gas lines during the Sack of Precinct 3, or the convenient pallets of bricks and the lumber that just happened to be around. Thats what no police looks like in the cities.

    Now, if you want to abolish the rural police departments, that I can back. Makes hiding dead vibrants much easier. Rural cops become vigilantes or sherrif’s deputies in a return to community policing.

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  9. Farm Boy says:

    Add to that – the MInneapolis City Council has voted to disband the police department.

    Being less-than-intelligent lefties, I am confident that they will mess that up big-time.

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  10. Farm Boy says:

    It is difficult to see why anybody of intelligence would want to live in a big city. The Chinese virus problem has accelerated the dispersion of many jobs. Not all, but many

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  11. Farm Boy says:

    That’s all, folks. The upcoming “Looney Tunes” reboot on HBO Max will be implementing a progressive update: stripping the characters Elmer Fudd and Yosemite Sam of their guns.


  12. Farm Boy says:

    Now the MSM are just outright lying

    Attorney General William Barr disputed many claims made by the mainstream media about last week’s riots during an interview on Sunday, saying that the media has been telling the American public “big lies” about what is going on at the allegedly peaceful protests, and that there have been “750 officers hurt in the last week.”

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  13. SFC Ton says:

    Defunding the police creates a vacuum, giving us time and space to operate

    Create even more dysfunction in urban settings…. creating even more time and space…. plus seriously thin the herd

    Will limited the laws ability to fuck with our day to day living. They will be default have to focus on serious crime vs giving you tickets for window tint and other dumb shit


  14. theshadowedknight says:

    Femenism that has women entering the vicinity of powerful, wealthy men? Femenism that encourages women to make themselves sexually appealing and available? What kind of woman would want that?

    All of them. Every one. That would be like wondering why a magazine for men encouraged women to visit gun shows and bars.

    “Why would masculinism support pretty women with big titties going to places with a lot of guns and booze? I guess there are some mysteries that will never be solved.”

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  15. okrahead says:

    Defunding/eliminating the police…. power abhors a vacuum. Our current police are made up of (mostly) men sworn to uphold the law. They are human, and so imperfect, and apt to screw up just like the rest of us. Nevertheless, they represent the law. Their replacement will be the mob, unhinged, unlawful, unconstrained. Our current police, even when corrupt, at least try to maintain civil order. Our civil order is the reason we have basically eliminated real hunger in this country, why we don’t have half of our children die before age 10 as they once did, why we don’t have outbreaks of the many plagues that still lurk around us that, that compared to Covid 19 are like great whites compared to guppies. Defunding the police is a vote for anarchy, murder, disease and famine. The knuckleheads voting for this always believe they’ll be the ones who end up ruling; most often they’re the first ones dead in the ditch.

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  16. Farm Boy says:

    I understood that Cosmo was the flagship for Feminism … the one that decried the view of women as sex objects.

    I’m not sure that is an accurate view of Cosmo. For a while anyway, most of the articles were of the sort that aimed to teach the reader how to become the sex object that men would choose – over the other wannabes.

    Cosmo was all about Feminism. One of the big things about Feminism was that women were not to be sex objects. But there is Cosmo promoting just that. Hence the contradiction

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  17. Farm Boy says:

    Femenism that has women entering the vicinity of powerful, wealthy men? Femenism that encourages women to make themselves sexually appealing and available? What kind of woman would want that?

    All of them. Every one.

    Indeed. I wish that they would be upfront about it.

    As for that independent woman thing…


  18. theshadowedknight says:

    Independent women are a shit test. Independent women always seem to find a way to be alone with a powerful man in a way that he can do whatever he wants to her. If you believe in independent women she loses interest. If you laugh and have your wicked way with her then tell her to make you a sandwich she will do it happily. A woman is always looking for a man to make her dependant on him.

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  19. okrahead says:

    There are around 50,000 Somali immigrants in Minneapolis, and around 80,000 in the twin cities. Once there are no police all those nice German Lutherans are going to find out in a hurry what Black Hawk Down was all about. This is insane.

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  20. Farm Boy says:

    Glorious Patriarch,

    Do you have an article about the effects of vitamins D and K2 on the Chinese Virus?


  21. Sumo says:

    They will be default have to focus on serious crime vs giving you tickets for window tint and other dumb shit

    But they’re voting to disband the police, not defund. I would actually semi-agree with defunding the bullshit that you mentioned – window tint tickets, jaywalking, parking violations, etc. I agree to having the police focus on murders, rapes, theft, that sort of thing.

    Having police answerable to “civilian” oversight is, in my opinion, a necessity. You cannot expect the general populace to have any sort of faith or trust in your organization if you cannot be held accountable for your actions. However, being held accountable to politicians is ridiculous. As Ton pointed out, that just makes police the spear point of the corrupt officials.

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  22. Farm Boy says:

    The NY Times editor is now gone because he allowed an editorial written by Senator Tom Cotton, a non-lefty

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  23. Farm Boy says:

    Dr. Fauci Speaks Up: Protests Are ‘A Perfect Setup’ For A Second Coronavirus Peak


  24. Cill says:

    FWIW NZ has beaten the Wu virus. There have been no new cases for 17 consecutive days. All people who had the virus have died or recovered. There were 22 deaths, mostly of elderly people who probably would have died anyway of other health problems. Many elderly die of the flu and pneumonia every year, and the number this year was down because they caught the Wu Flu instead or as well as.

    Apart from the borders, which remain closed, all activity is back to normal. International tourism is one of NZ’s biggest earners. On the other hand there has been an upsurge of orders for NZ products, especially foods.

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  25. SFC Ton says:

    The results of disbanding and defunding are near enough the same as to not matter which


  26. SFC Ton says:

    current police, even when corrupt, at least try to maintain civil order.

    By over enforcement on middle class/ working class whites and under enforcement on diviserty and the wealthy

    If you are the umc type, yeah the police are your friend and you probably need them

    For the rest of the Folks? Not so much.


    If your the kind that wants to be free the police arent your friend.

    If you are the kind that enjoys the heavy hand of goverment they are a ok


  27. Farm Boy says:

    They’d love to have a very, very powerful government, including a federal government, involved in directly addressing their day-to-day reality. It’s not reachable right now. And it leaves this friction, and this anger, which is visceral.

    -Bill deBlasio NYC Mayor


  28. My mom bought Cosmo every month (likely still does) so they were always laying around when I was a kid. She also loved tabloids (enquirer, Star, etc.) Cosmo was filled with rah rah go girl stuff. I would read it because it was around and I read anything that is around, but even as a kid my gut would say there was something wrong about it and that the advice was popular but not good. It was mostly hair, makeup, fashion, career, and the monthly sex article (drive him wild with X.) Basically the “sex in the City” lifestyle. I have never bought or read one since moving out on my own. Still, looking back, I would not want my girls reading that or being influenced by that. And I wonder how much of the feminist nonsense I was raised with came from that or my mom being influenced by that? I would not recommend it, total waste of time and fills ones head with nonsense! Even with all the work I’ve had to do to unlearn some of this nonsense I will find it popping up here and there like an old bad record. Avoid this dreck entirely would be my advice!

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  29. “ Cosmo was all about Feminism. One of the big things about Feminism was that women were not to be sex objects EXCEPT TO APEX MEN OUT OF THEIR LEAGUE. But there is Cosmo promoting just that. Hence the contradiction”

    There, fixed that. Feminism’s dirty little secret…

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  30. Cosmo is also filled with “why he doesn’t call” crying in hankies type articles.

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  31. I would be much more likely to support the cops if they were doing the job they were supposedly created to do. Old western movies taught me that the sheriff went after bank-robbers, rustlers, and stage coach stick-up men. They didn’t go around making sure the saloon had the “correct” number of spittoons, or that the general store’s hitching post was exactly the right length for the store frontage.

    Cops seem to harass the law-abiding much more than going after real criminals. See: Anarcho-tyranny, also low-hanging fruit. Mark Steyn has a bit in his podcasts where he goes over the latest useless cop antics in the UK, “Where everything is policed, except actual crime.” They track down people displaying wrong-think on twitter, yet let Pakistanis rape their girl children with impunity for fear of being seen as racist. Yeah, lets defund that shit right now.

    Why keep paying garbage men who refuse to pick-up the garbage and instead dump shit all over your property?

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  32. Articles include, “Suck His Dick Better Than Suzy Does” and “Sandwich Making So Easy Even A Women Can Do It”.

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  33. “Maybe Being Such A Bitch All The Time Is Why He Doesn’t Call”

    “That C**k Ain’t Gonna Suck Itself”

    “You’re Never Gonna Be This Hot, Better Learn To Be Useful To Him”

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  34. Liz says:

    Just starting with the video of the Police Chief (which I can’t watch due to slow internet streaming issues)…
    why are all these “protestors” not resigning?
    If he really feels he needs to supplicate, why not just resign?
    I get it will hit his bottom line but he has no credibility and shouldn’t be getting a pay check after this anyway.
    I think the same of these sports people who “take a knee” (which apparently is going to be du rigor again? What the ever living f*k is going on?)
    Taking a knee shows nothing. Boycotting would be skin in the game. But they don’t want that.

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  35. Liz says:

    Why keep paying garbage men who refuse to pick-up the garbage and instead dump shit all over your property?

    Although I very much understand this perspective, there is a huge energy burden to having to serve as one’s own police force. There’s a deterrent component…just by the fact the police force exists, that I don’t think can be overlooked. Someone breaks into your car/home/business, are you going to launch your own investigation? Maybe, but good luck with that. Even in the mountains here, hypothetically if the police didn’t exist I’d feel the need to buy large dogs, and have a very upgraded security system. At present we don’t even have to lock our doors.
    Then there are the businesses…what would they do?

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  36. Liz says:

    I used to buy cosmo. Mostly for the same reason I played with barbies.

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  37. “Someone breaks into your car/home/business, are you going to launch your own investigation?”

    I understand your point, but think you picked an especially bad example. It’s my understanding that stolen property cases are just paperwork affairs as far as the cops are concerned. “Here’s your police report for the insurance company Case closed.”

    Cops are only deterrents to people who wouldn’t generally think about breaking the law anyway. Cops may deter some crimes of opportunity, but they do almost nothing to protect us from career criminals.



    Facebook-owned Instagram is now censoring FBI crime statistic graphs as “hate speech,” according to Blaze TV’s Elijah Schaffer.

    “Instagram is now removing FBI crime statistic graphs,” Schaffer said Saturday on Twitter. “Posted with the necessary citations [as] ‘hate speech.'”

    Statistics (not just opinion) that the vast majority of blacks are killed by other blacks is “hate speech”.

    Noting that the same-day temperature today is 5 degrees less than last year is “science-denial” re: climate change.


  39. Liz says:

    Cops are only deterrents to people who wouldn’t generally think about breaking the law anyway.

    Respectfully, KH, I think that pool of folks would expand exponentially without them.
    But I’m fine with starting in Minneapolis and seeing how it works out for them. Not so fine with watching them fleeing to my neck of the woods though.

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  40. Liz says:

    I mean the pool of folks who wouldn’t think about breaking the law would decline, the pool of folks thinking “why not?” would expand. Folks who live under rampant criminality tend to go towards rampant criminality….it’s not unlike littering. When there’s garbage everywhere, one tends to litter more.

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  41. Liz says:

    Singapore has a strict taboo on littering. We have a looser taboo.
    Guess who has more litter…
    (I don’t want to live under Singapore level restrictions, just using an extreme example to make the point…everyone uses the cost to gains equation. Even entire cultures change based on them)

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  42. Farm Boy says:

    Dramatic spikes in auto traffic around major hospitals in Wuhan last fall suggest the novel coronavirus may have been present and spreading through central China long before the outbreak was first reported to the world, according to a new Harvard Medical School study.


  43. JPF says:

    “Then there are the businesses…what would they do?”

    Have a poster on each street, listing the date and the picture of all the robbers/looters that have been shot by the businesses on that street. “We have shot/killed the last 12 guys who broke into our stores. Are you next?”
    Seems to me like that would be a better deterrent than having the cops after the guy. But I am not a criminal, so my opinions may not be appropriate for judging what would work well.

    The biggest problem with the suggestion above would be the labour involved. Who wants to pay someone to be there all night, every night?
    Maybe dogs and alarm systems, with an on-call team of men with guys who are only 5 minutes away. But that assumes you can find residences near the businesses. In some communities, the store is on the first floor and the owner’s apartment on the floor above it — that would be more workable.

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  44. Farm Boy says:

    During a protest over the death of George Floyd in Melbourne, protesters were asked about the death of Justine Damond, a white woman killed by a Somali Minneapolis Police Department officer, and not a single one of them cared.

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  45. Farm Boy says:

    “BLACK LIVES MATTER!” shrieked Black Lives Matter as they assaulted and shot black police officers, vandalized black-owned businesses and gave money to Planned Parenthood so they could kill more black babies.
    “THOSE ARMED WHITE MEN ARE DANGEROUS!” bellowed CNN as the pro-2A demonstrators in Virginia cleaned up the area after their day of protest and went home without anybody getting shot.

    “IT’S ALL DONALD TRUMP’S FAULT!” declared Andrew Cuomo as he forced NY nursing homes to accept patients who tested positive for Covid-19.

    “WE’RE ANTI-FASCISTS” screamed the Antifa thugs as they vandalized cars, set buildings and businesses on fire, and assaulted random passers-by.

    “BECAUSE OF COVID-19, WE NEED TO HAVE A LOCKDOWN!” proclaimed the activists trying to pass themselves off as public health experts.

    “MASS PROTESTS ARE TOTES OK!” proclaimed the activists trying to pass themselves off as public health experts.

    “ANTI-RACISM MASS PROTESTS? TOTES OK!” proclaimed the activists trying to pass themselves off as public health experts.

    “ANTI-LOCKDOWN PROTESTS? NOT OK!” proclaimed the activists trying to pass themselves off as public health experts.

    “WE HAVE TO HAVE A CIVIL WAR NOW!” thundered Tom Arnold from inside of his guarded and gated mansion.

    “BUT I DON’T WANT BUSINESSES TO LEAVE CHICAGO!” squealed the Chicago mayor after she condemned business owners who defended their businesses from looting and only charged most arrested rioters with disorderly conduct.

    “THE PROTESTS HAVE BEEN MOSTLY PEACEFUL!” declared the media as the cities burned.

    “WHY ARE OUR STREETS FILLED WITH VIOLENCE, RIOTING, AND BAGS OF POO?” cried blue city voters as they continued to elect deep blue mayors, deep blue city managers and deep blue city council members.

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  46. Farm Boy says:

    GoFundMe has suspended a fundraiser for a cafe in Birmingham, Alabama, set up by African-American conservative commentator Candace Owens after she posted a viral video declaring that she does “not support George Floyd and the media depiction of him as a martyr for black America.”


  47. Farm Boy says:

    Can anybody precisely articulate what this “systemic racism” is that is creating the big fuss?

    Perhaps if we knew what it was, people could debate the issue

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  48. Can anybody precisely articulate what this “systemic racism” is that is creating the big fuss?

    Well, to be succinct, it’s bullshit.

    The TLDR version is, is that systemic racism, just like white privilege, climate change, etc., etc., … is whatever the Left says it is until that changes or the term is no longer useful, see Global Warming.

    [How debate about shit one does?]

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  49. Leftist saying translator:

    Let’s have a dialogue about … = Do what we say or else.

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  50. SFC Ton says:

    The very nature of goverment is to expand ams limit your liberty. The very nature of police is to do the goveerments bidding regarding your liberty and their expansion of power, tax collection etc etc

    How good a deterrent are police? Given all the riots and what not in cities with large police forces already?

    The home security industry is worth something like 70 billion dollars.

    So I will say despite having a large police force in what use to be the land of the free, alarms, cameras etc etc are already wildly popular.

    And I doubt they include guns, dogs and what not in that figure and damn sure doesnt include the money you spend on hours and what not to ensure you don’t live bear diversity

    I don’t think it’s an exaggeration to say the issues around vibrants is a huge ecconmic drain and stealth tax

    Cops are already not legally obligated to protect you as an individual or your property. They dont generally look for stolen property, some places you don’t even get a visit by a cop. You fill out your stolen property report on line, then they mail it to you, then you send it all to your insurance company. And have you ever tried to return stolen property when you find it?

    With no police….. who’s there to evict old folks when they can’t pay their property taxes? Who is there to threaten men with jail when they don’t pay their alimony? Who’s there to shut your buiness down because your sign doesnt match code? Who’s there to shield protesters bent on pulling down Robert E Lee monuments from the rednecks?

    Fuck the police

    There isn’t much to loose and a lot to gain by getting rid of them

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  51. theshadowedknight says:

    Like I said, the value of police is not what they do, its the space they take up. Getting rid of the police doesn’t lead to no law enforcement coming after you for alimony, taxes, etc. It means that a horde of antifa and their pet savages burns your house down. Its the Red Guard. Nature abhors a vacuum, and that space will get filled by something far more left and violent and evil than the police.

    Why do you think that the leftists all want to get rid of the police? So that you can live in peace? Fuck no. Its to remove one more barrier between them and killing you.

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  52. Where I live it’s the sheriff, not the police. And usually there is only one on patrol for an area of many many square miles. But I’m still glad that he’s there and I waves when he goes by and he waves back.


  53. theshadowedknight says:

    Yeah, sheriff is a different story. You can vote for your sheriff. In a small town, police should be fine and even if they are abolished they just become the officially unofficial law enforcement. The old Anglo-Saxon model of law and order.

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  54. I agree that the role of govt. should be to provide the services needed to keep civilization working (roads, garbage, water, law and order) and less what it has been trying to become (the nanny state meddling in your life or business.)

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  55. Likewise I see the nonsense of standing down and allowing rioting, looting, and arson w/o consequence (while ironically NOT allowing all protests like of lock down, just “approved” protest) is a huge dereliction of duty. Another reality of people making these decisions are not in touch with is the people who ACTUALLY vote are the law abiding taxpaying citizens for the most part. Or the same people they are NOT representing or being responsive to. It doesn’t seem like a good strategy to me but maybe their goal is to not have any further elections? 😳


  56. This whole thing is just surreal. It’s crazy train and I want OFF!

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  57. TSK (or anyone) can email me at notesfromaredpillgirl @ Gmail dot com. I don’t check that email very often so if you do send something if you put a heads up here I’ll know to look for it.


  58. theshadowedknight says:

    There is a reason I am a monarchist. Places where one man rules absolutely tend to be a lot more permissive than one where everyone gets a say in what you do. One man just cannot cause as much havoc as many men. Give that one man a financial and status incentive to make sure the country is running as best he can and things go well. Look at Abu Dubai or Saudi Arabia. The men in charge keep order, collect taxes, and if you don’t fick with them they largely return the favor.

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  59. And yes in retrospect I wish I had set that up w a different carrier, knowing all we know now, and might change it yet!


  60. SFC Ton says:

    Whats the 3 things you are always short on when shit goes side wasy? Time, options and resources?

    Resources…… It’s a basic ecconmic issue in the allocation of scarce resources sense

    If they defund the police and spend that cash on hippie shit they don’t have the resources to fuck around with non violent felonies. If they do spend the cash they speed up the crash. They know that

    When black dysfunction goes up a billion billion billion percentage they’ll have even fewer resources. Cash and man power. The urban cites will become a near on kill box as rich urban Whites will demand to be kept safe and they’ll get their demands meet. Their demands are almost always meet which is part of why the freaked about Trump winning.

    On top of those demands will be a period of transition and confusion….. creating more dysfunction and an even larger block of time and space for the rural and suburban folks

    It will also cause a decision making nightmare making the whole situations mkre difficult to manage and the red guard aint coming to small town usa when the rich urban shot callers need them to police their AO.

    It’s basically plays out that way every day in Africa, South America etc etc

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  61. Gunner Q says:

    Kentucky Headhunter says:
    8 June, 2020 at 5:49 pm
    “Can anybody precisely articulate what this “systemic racism” is that is creating the big fuss?”

    A cop accidentally killed the neighborhood’s pusher after he resisted arrest.

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  62. A girl who works for me who suspected she had the virus shortly before we caught it told me yesterday her mom had a random blood clot that lodged in a major artery and collapsed it. I guess the doctor said she was very lucky that that happened versus her having a stroke but it was a medical emergency and luckily she works at the hospital and was there when it happened. Anyway they tested her with the swab, negative. But I urged her daughter to talk to her mom about getting an antibody test because I do wonder if it’s related. I’m also wondering if anyone here knows anything more about this new thinking that the illness starts off respiratory but then becomes vascular and the clotting is a issue. I’m also wondering if anyone knows anything more on the thinking of the long term for this for people who have been affected? Her mom is same age as myself, active and fit. Scary!

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  63. My experience, if it was the virus, has been almost like an autoimmune thing that remits and flares. So long as I am taking all the supplements and doing the homopathic stuff I am fine but if I slack off, symptoms like lung tightness and fatigue return. Of course I do wonder how much of a Roos stress, insomnia, and other factors are playing, too. It’s unprecedented, and while I am doing my best to cope, I can’t seem to turn it off like it’s not happening like some seem able to. Certainly not “enjoying the time off.” Blah blah blah… f this noise, want my old life back, hope someone is working on that! I don’t know how the pres. keeps up the pace he does. I hope he’s an honest player, the fact that they are so bent on destroying him gives me some hope that’s true, but it is really hard to know anymore… I am very glad I live in the country. I doubt any of this will come out my way and if so I like in probably the most red blooded armed up area so while I may not personally be much help beyond tea and sandwiches, I am surrounded by good people. That’s a comfort.

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  64. Farm Boy says:

    KILLECHASSIE, SCOTLAND—J.K. Rowling has released a controversial new entry in the Harry Potter series, Harry Potter and the Basic Biology Class


  65. Farm Boy says:

    U.S.—The media is reporting that the Death Star has blown up Alderaan in a “mostly peaceful” demonstration of the superweapon’s destructive capabilities.

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  66. Farm Boy says:

    More specifically, the agency said the virus primarily spreads from person-to-person in the following ways:

    Between people who are in close contact with one another (within about 6 feet)
    Through respiratory droplets produced when an infected person coughs, sneezes, or talks

    These droplets can land in the mouths or noses of people who are nearby or possibly be inhaled into the lungs


  67. Farm Boy says:

    the World Health Organization (WHO) is now saying that asymptomatic people with the coronavirus are not driving the spread of the virus.

    The CDC currently believes that 35% of all coronavirus infections are asymptomatic.

    Researchers have previously argued that containing the virus would be extraordinarily difficult because of asymptomatic infections, but WHO officials no longer believe it’s the main way the disease spreads.

    Asymptomatic transmission of the coronavirus was previously used to justify social distancing.


  68. Farm Boy says:

    Michigan Supreme Court Throws Out Order Saying Barber Karl Manke had to Close Shop

    “It is incumbent on the courts to ensure decisions are made according to the rule of law, not hysteria.”


  69. Sumo says:

    I found out this morning that once, 50 years ago, we had a single night without police in a major Canadian city. Apparently, it was not a pleasant evening:

    on October 7, 1969, when the Montreal police went on strike. By 11:20 am, the first bank was robbed. By noon, most of the downtown stores were closed because of looting. Within a few more hours, taxi drivers burned down the garage of a limousine service that competed with them for airport customers, a rooftop sniper killed a provincial police officer, rioters broke into several hotels and restaurants, and a doctor slew a burglar in his suburban home. By the end of the day, six banks had been robbed, a hundred shops had been looted, twelve fires had been set, forty carloads of storefront glass had been broken, and three million dollars in property damage had been inflicted, before city authorities had to call in the army and, of course, the Mounties to restore order.

    I’m a little shocked that I’ve never heard of this incident before.

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  70. okrahead says:

    Your argument that if we defund the police they will spend less time on minor issues and more time on serious felonies doesn’t hold water. It’s basic economics. City leaders are going to want a certain amount of income from the police regardless of circumstances (traffic fines). No matter how many resources they allocate away from police city leaders are still going to demand that income; as a result police will spend LESS time on serious crime and even MORE time on petty things that produce income. This goes against the grain for 90%+ of rank and file officers, but if it’s write tickets are go on unemployment, they’ll do what most of the rest of us will.
    The problem is NOT rank and file officers. The problem is hard leftists in local government and the constituents that elect them who think you can bring down murder, burglary, theft, rape etc. without hurting anyone’s (especially Somalians) feelings.


  71. Farm Boy says:

    During the strike, Boston experienced several nights of lawlessness. Several thousand members of the Massachusetts State Guard, supported by volunteers, restored order by force.

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  72. horsemanbombadil says:

    THE absolute MGTOW mic drop of All Time.

    Just set on auto repeat.
    Explains everything Dalrock, Rollo, even Roosh once he saw the light.

    And its done by women, to themselves.

    P.s. I will even give some of this while the kids are young but it continues even after you become empty nesters.

    P.p.s. the bit about reversing it, No I wont spend money on you because I have a headache!!

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  73. SFC Ton says:

    The problem is most def rank and file officers

    They are the ones who drive drunk knowing they won’t get tickets and that other cops will cover them if when get in an accident. Then brag about that shit

    They are the ones who follow orders to evict old folks who can’t cover property taxes so the city can sell the house at auction and make extra cash

    They are the ones who follow orders to jail some poor sob who can’t pay alimony etc after loosing his job

    They are the ones who stopped BV from receiving medical care… a way common event btw

    Rank and file pigs gave a friend of mine a ticket for not wearing a helmet while he was dying…after having it knocked off him

    It was rank and file pigs pulling over White veteran bikers because Obama and Holder said we were the real domestic threat in America

    It was rank and file pigs who crashed a buddies funeral and hassled his mourning friends and family

    It’s rank and file pigs who get into unnecessary high speed chases with non violent offenders, then fuck up their driving and kill your neighbour’s teenage daughter coming home from work

    It was rank and file pigs who refused to display moral courage and obeyed orders to let the chimp out continue and they lack it to such a degree they don’t do much to protest it

    Etc etc, world without end, amen

    I am also utterly unconcerned with what happens to people in cities but if the actual gunned up cops are few in number, like Sumo and FB eluded to, they’ll be way to busy to hassle regular folks. How many speeding tickets where issued in Minneapolis last weekend? My guess is a record low

    By way of comparison we went almost 2 years with no official police for our little hamlet. No one locked their doors or took the keys out of their trucks

    It plays out that way all over the world and they’ll probably attempt to use cameras for traffic enforcement

    You will see a increase in police corruption of the you can now bribe your way out of speeding tickets but I don’t see that as a problem. Rich folks bribe cops all the time. Might as well let the little guy get in on the action

    National guard guys generally cant afford to be on active duty very long so that is also a quickly depleted resource. Especially if they have to stay close to home.

    Left hss to eat itself ro loose…..when shit goes sideways you will also see a rapid rise in race realism and right wing movements.

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  74. theshadowedknight says:

    Speaking of BV, is he still around?


  75. SFC Ton says:

    Joker is legit

    Liked by 2 people

  76. SFC Ton says:

    Was told he’s more active on twatter

    Liked by 1 person

  77. SFC Ton says:

    Ghetto lottery winners

    That’s trippy is I watched a YouTube video from Tommy what’s his face talking about a few months back and now here itbisn

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  78. Farm Boy says:

    A Minneapolis manufacturing company has decided to leave the city, with the company’s owner saying he can’t trust public officials who allowed his plant to burn during the recent riots. The move will cost the city about 50 jobs.

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  79. Farm Boy says:

    Steele, an African-American veteran of the civil rights movement of the 1960s and a best-selling author, appeared on the June 7 episode of Life, Liberty, and Levin to say the protesters have nothing new to say, and that blacks have never been less oppressed in American society

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  80. RichardP says:

    Can anybody precisely articulate what this “systemic racism” is that is creating the big fuss?

    If that is a serious question, spend some time with these two links:

    Structural-Racism Glossary

    David French & Adoption (American attorney, journalist, and author)

    tl:dr: French and his wife raised two white, blond, blue-eyed girls. Then they adopted a black girl from Ethiopia. His experiences raising the black girl were miles apart from his experiences raising his white daughters. His “lived experience” changed because of the color of his adopted daughter’s skin. An example of how the “lived experience” of whites in America are fundamentally different from the “lived experiences” of people of color.

    Whether those difference can or should be changed is not the point of me posting these links. Rather, it is a pretty dramatic example of the fact that those “lived experiences” do exist.


  81. RichardP says:

    … example of the fact that differences in those “lived experiences” do exist.


  82. theshadowedknight says:

    Systemic racism is European civilization being applied to Africans. That is the beginning and the end of it. The idea that savages less than ten generations away from mud huts and barbarism are any different than men who spent ten generations building a cathedral is systemic racism.

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  83. Farm Boy says:

    They were not peaceful protesters. And that’s one of the big lies that the- the media is- seems to be perpetuating at this point

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  84. Cheque d'Out says:

    About that Vitamin D3 thing. Here are a couple of links but there have been responsible youbenders speaking of vitamin D from the start. Always positive. I’ve noticed a mood lift in my mother, she’s got a positive mindset despite being locked down for weeks now.

    Elsewhere I hear that Vitamin K2 is useful if you’re taking Vitamin D3, it helps the body use Calcium correctly. You can buy Vitamin D3 and K2 combined (i.e. the linkage is useful).

    Vitamin C is also said to be useful. Large doses if you’re ill. Overdoing C might give you unpleasant (but harmless) side-effects. If you get tummy trouble (or lower down) then reduce your dose a bit. The only other thing to be aware of is that it makes your skin more sensitive to the sun, so use a bit of protection (the effect is noticeable but not extreme).

    So I bought the following

    So they’re UK links, you might try just swapping the to com for the US.

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  85. Cheque d'Out says:

    The second link image isn’t popping up for me, the product is called
    Vitamin D 3,000 IU & Vitamin K2 100ug MK7 Vegetarian Capsules – 120 Days Supply of Vitamin D3

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  86. SFC Ton says:

    Systemic racism is the complicated lie leftist came up with to cover the failures of low iq moon crickets trapped in a world that values and rewards cognitive ablites above all else so the small hats can use pavement apes as a weapon against White folks and our various civilizations

    Anti Semitism is the lie skypes came up with to libel people who realize their tribe has pretty much come up with all the various ideals that are destroying what use to be the White and Christian West

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  87. Cheque d'Out says:

    A channel that I discovered recently, run by a an MD, mentioned that the maximum sustained (long term) intake of D3 is around 4000iu (iu is not mg!). Notice that the D3 above is 3000 giving you a little headroom for multivitamins etc or sunshine on top. iirc it’s fat soluble so the body will store some ready for when it’s needed.

    If anyone thinks that I’ve got any detail wrong please say so (and give links)

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  88. Cheque d'Out says:

    And finally, did I mention how much I’m NOT a doctor?


  89. Cheque d'Out says:

    Just came up in my recommendations

    In 1982, a lone admiral urged Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher to deploy a military task force to counter Argentina’s invasion of the Falkland Islands. The archipelago, 8,000 miles from the United Kingdom, was the source of dispute over sovereignty between the two nations for more than a century. With no forward presence other than a tiny garrison on the islands, no allies in the area or intermediate support bases en route, and not even ships to mount the British military, Thatcher nevertheless decided to order deployment to retake the Falklands. The Prime Minister’s bold move sparked an expeditionary war, surprising many of the world’s other great powers. The British deployed forces nearly half the world away to achieve a complete victory only 74 days after the Argentine invasion. In this lecture, MG (Ret) Kenneth L. Privratsky, author of the recently published book, Logistics in the Falklands War, provides an overview of the war to include key actions leading to the victory, the aftermath, and most importantly, its relevance to the U.S. Army as it continues to focus on expeditionary warfare.

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  90. Farm Boy says:

    Especially what with all the schools, colleges, nightclubs, pro sports, basketball courts, gyms, pools, movie theaters, bowling alleys, videogame arcades, food courts, etc. closed for two and a half months, the mob, if not dispersed from the park and nearby areas, would have grown to 50,000 or more idle, bored mushy-brains within a week, with tent cities and break-in squatters’ communes taking up half or more of downtown, and done much, much greater damage to the city, to federal operations, and to our tradition of peaceful transfer of power. Anyone who doubts this has not studied history or world affairs.

    This is what the Democrats were hoping for. It was their very last chance for regime change before the election. Why else would they have brought General Mattis out of oblivion last week specifically? They banked on things going downhill, and then the brass, fearing another Kent State, would peel off from Mr. Trump. As with everything else they have tried, it didn’t work

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  91. Farm Boy says:

    NYT Fabricated Trump Story.
    The claim that former President Bush won’t support Trump is “completely made up.”


  92. Farm Boy says:

    “Hollywood has the best moral compass, because it has compassion,” Harvey Weinstein famously said. We all know what happened to him, but what happened to Hollywood?

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  93. Farm Boy says:

    Study after study has shown that kids play no meaningful role in community spread of the virus. And contrary to what the doomsayers warned, asymptomatic individuals of any age are very unlikely to transmit the disease. Consider that one serology study done by Tribeca Pediatrics found that 20 percent of children tested in New York City have antibodies. Thus, the reason we are not seeing child-to-adult transmission is not because children do not get the disease, but likely because almost none of them present meaningful enough symptoms to transmit.

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  94. I could only stomach a minute or two of those cackling hens, but Joker really should make that his “what I’m about” video.

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  95. I’ve been taking D, C and zinc supplements and have not had any issues for months now, though I thank CdO about the sunlight sensitivity reminder. I’ll get beet red really quick if I’m not careful and that’s without raking extra C.

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  96. David French, Richard? Seriously?

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  97. Liz says:

    Heard something about what the plan is in Minneapolis without law enforcement.
    If you are robbed, you are supposed to contact your robber somehow and go before a mediator to sort things out.
    I’m guessing Minneapolis isn’t heavily armed.

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  98. Liz says:

    It will be both fun and tragic to watch this actually play out. I’d be pretty upset if I was an elderly person invested in my home though.

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  99. Liz says:

    Went to the library in Golden yesterday and had to wait in the car while the books I had on hold were brought out to me (at the designated time) by a person wearing a mask. He was not allowed to give them to me directly, but in a bag, placed in the trunk of the car I was required to open before he brought out the item.
    It was surreal with so many other folks walking around outside, most without masks.
    They only use masks for protest now, it seems.

    side note: If I were a black person I would advertise myself as a “musician” and get some very well paying gigs I’m sure. No, I can’t play an instrument nor can I sing. Doesn’t matter, they’d be so happy for the privilege of standing next to a black person and so they can do selfies that would occupy the whole time. And I’m sure they’d tip bigly.


  100. Liz says:

    My sith name is toob yppup

    [Almost have a boob in there you do]

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  101. “If you are robbed, you are supposed to contact your robber somehow and go before a mediator to sort things out.’

    Sounds like a Monty Python sketch:

    “Hello, how may I help you?”

    “Yes, I’d like to have a robbery, please.”

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  102. Hey, fellow deplorables, got a question for you. How would you define or recognize someone as being a “normie”?


  103. Farm Boy says:

    “We have a number of reports from countries who are doing very detailed contact tracing,” Van Kerkhove said at a briefing Monday from the U.N.’s headquarters. “They’re following asymptomatic cases. They’re following contacts. And they’re not finding secondary transmission onward.”


  104. Farm Boy says:

    Talks about Hollywood gaslighting


  105. Farm Boy says:

    CNN’s Alisyn Camerota asked Bender who people will call if someone robbed their home. President Lisa Bender said the ability to call the police in that case “comes from a place of privilege.”

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  106. Farm Boy says:

    Los Angeles City Council President Nury Martinez, a Democrat, pushed to make drastic cuts to the Los Angeles Police Department’s (LAPD) funding amid a nationwide campaign by the far-left to defund police departments — a move she made while having an LAPD unit stationed outside her private home since April.

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  107. Farm Boy says:

    Question: Is gaslighting worse than garden variety outright lying?


  108. Farm Boy says:


  109. Farm Boy says:

    What Liz’ dog does while she is out exercising

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  110. Farm Boy says:

    Over half of Minnesota coronavirus death certificates list something else as primary cause of death

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  111. thedeti says:


    Re the better bachelor/video:

    If women don’t want to fuck their husbands, then women need to stop bitching about their husbands jerking it to porn.

    If women don’t want to fuck their husbands, then women need to be OK with having sex outside their marriages.

    You know this, but I’m gonna say this for the benefit of other young men who are reading.

    Up until about, oh, 100 years ago, it was the case that young unmarried men usually had sex with whores and prostitutes,, until they got married. Then they had sex with their wives, and occasionally with whores. Then after the last kid was born and the wives decided they didn’t want sex anymore, they went back out and had sex with whores once again. Only, when these men are 40 or so, it’s less often because they had to think about work and supporting their families, and also they’re not usually in the best health so things don’t work as well. So, you know, once or twice a month, when he really needed to scratch the itch, the local whore could do (turn) the trick.

    So around 100 years or so ago, it was decided at least in the US that in all but maybe Nevada, prostitution needed to be illegal. And women decided that they liked this, because it kept their husbands at home, kept them off the streets, kept STIs away (usually), and the husbands weren’t spending needed money on hookers. OK.

    But women weren’t picking up the slack. Women were saying “well, you husbands can’t fuck anyone else, but we are not going to fuck you.”

    Yeah, no. That’s not gonna fly.

    Ladies, the choice is very simple. Either have sex with your husbands, do it correctly and do it often, or expect them to go get it somewhere else. You no longer get to have it both ways. You do not get to say “you don’t get to have sex with anyone but me” and then refuse to have sex with him when he wants. No. That’s not acceptable in any way, shape, manner or form.

    And if he does step out because you won’t have sex with him, you have now forfeited any right to complain about it. You DO NOT get to complain that your hubby is fucking someone else when you won’t fuck him.

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  112. Distinction without a difference?


  113. Stop making sense, psycho-killer.


  114. Cheque d'Out says:

    More on the Vitamin D thang. This is the guy (MD) that said 4000iu per day was the limit for long term taking D3

    So what does not having enough vitamin D have to do with COVID? And IF insufficient vitamin D levels CAUSE more severe disease, why is that? Well, I have to first clarify that it’s not proven that insufficient levels of vitamin D lead to worse outcomes. But while it hasn’t been proven, it also certainly hasn’t been disproven. And there is more and more compelling evidence suggesting that lower levels lead to worse outcomes. And there’s no question that vitamin D plays an important role in our immune system. More and more studies are coming out that are sorting out its exact role in this capacity. But the link between poor vitamin D status and risk of certain infections remains cloudy. Back in 2017, there was a meta-analysis study that consisted of 25 different randomized trials with about 11,000 patients in total, evaluating the incidence of acute respiratory infection.

    Vitamin D supplementation reduced the percentage of patients experiencing an acute respiratory tract infection. The incidence of URTI in the vitamin D group was 40.3%, compared to 42.2% in the placebo group. In a subgroup analysis, vitamin D supplementation was most effective in patients with vitamin D levels less than 10 ng/mL and in those treated with daily or weekly smaller doses, as opposed to a huge single dose. The takeaway from this meta-analysis study is that, being vitamin d deficient probably makes people more prone to getting upper respiratory infections, and that they should take supplemental vitamin D. But people who have low levels should be taking supplemental vitamin D regardless. Vitamin D has major effects on nearly all cells of our immune system, including dendritic cells, macrophages, and T and B lymphocytes. All of these immune cells have a receptor that binds to vitamin D, called vitamin D receptor, or VDR.

    Here are some questions we still need answers to:
    1) what level of vitamin D is adequate to protect against, or minimize the impact, of COVID?
    2) What level of vitamin D is considered too high
    3) should more and more people get their vitamin D levels checked, especially during this pandemic, when less and less people are physically going to the doctor?
    4) should people just supplement themselves? If so, how much?

    These are all tough questions to answer, especially because we won’t have the results of RCT for vitamin D anytime soon. Given the fact that low dose vitamin D is pretty darn safe, it seems quite reasonable for people to take a low dose supplement, especially if they think they might not be getting enough from sunlight or their diet. Of course, ideally, you want to have a discussion with your doctor if possible.

    A common question is, How much Vitamin D should I take a day?
    Personally, I take 1,000 IU per day. I know that I’m not going to run anywhere near toxic levels of vitamin D with that dose, while at the same time, I know that I won’t be vitamin D deficient.

    Dr. Mike Hansen, MD

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  115. RichardP says:

    @KH: The two links I gave were meant to provide one definition of the phrase structural racisim. Those links gave one academic definition, and then an example of that phrase in action. The links were not about David French’s politics.

    As an aside, I’ve never thought the term structural racism, or any “*** racism” was useful. What that term actually describes is structural preference. We all have preferences, regardless of ethnic group. We all prefer to be around stuff we understand – which usually means we prefer to be around the folks who raised us. No amount of redistributing resources from A to B is going to change that fundamental attribute of human nature. And diverting police money to the local 4th grade programs in the community is going to do no good for the disadvantaged if their mother did not get the proper nutrition when she was pregnant at the time that the fetus needed it. There are plenty of medical studies that doument that this is true.

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  116. Cheque d'Out says:

    A medical researcher Kevin McCairn PhD reckons that he caught the bug in South Korea months ago. He’s still feeling the effects. He reckons that taking aspirin (reduces swelling and clotting) helped him through the WuFlu and continues to help him now…

    FYI Bloom in particular ^^^

    He’s very straight in my experience, isn’t trying to flog you anything, but his presentation can be…wandering. I trust the guy.

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  117. Cheque d'Out says:

    flog you something = sell you something


  118. RichardP says:

    Since Vitamin D is fat-soluable, that means it stays in the body and does not get washed out through sweating or peeing like the B vitamins do. That creates the situation where one might end up with too much Vitamin D in the body – which can cause problems.

    The main consequence of vitamin D toxicity is a buildup of calcium in your blood (hypercalcemia), which can cause nausea and vomiting, weakness, and frequent urination. Vitamin D toxicity might progress to bone pain and kidney problems, such as the formation of calcium stones. (Mayo Clinic)

    Vitamin B-12 and other B vitamins play a role in producing brain chemicals that affect mood and other brain functions. Low levels of B-12 and other B vitamins such as vitamin B-6 and folate may be linked to depression.

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  119. Cheque d'Out says:

    Richard, yep. Hence:
    K2 helps D go do helpful things – take K2 with your D3. Google ‘Brain Sand’ for further examples of unhelpful D3 deposition
    4000iu limit per day – avoid long term toxicity. Although I’m going the flood my system with D3 if I think I’ve caught the virus; 10,000iU three times a day for three days is what I’ve heard.

    Please don’t hesitate to continue to post such information, it’s not a competition. There’s too much BS advice out there


  120. @Richard
    1. At this point, fuck “academic” anything.

    2. Fuck David French. There isn’t anything apolitical about anything that David French writes. His “daughter” is a virtue signaling totem and serves that purpose in everything he writes about her.

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  121. And a soulless ginger to boot!

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  122. RichardP says:

    it’s not a competition

    And hopefully you understand that I agree with that.

    KH: I’ve never read anything David French has written, except for the link I posted. Those two links do provide a useful perspective on the academic definition of structural racism. You cannot deny that it is useful to understand that different groups mean different things when they say the same phrase. Well, you can deny that, but that wouldn’t make you correct.


  123. Cheque d'Out says:

    Wait till they disband the police

    You can’t reason with this mentality

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  124. Cheque d'Out says:

    Important questions of our time #1966

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  125. Cheque d'Out says:

    “And a soulless ginger to boot!”

    For the last time, Gingers aren’t soul-less! They have all the souls that they’ve stolen from good people

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  126. Cheque d'Out says:

    I refuse to feel guilt for implausibly alleged actions of unspecified people that are nothing to do with me.
    So fuck that shit right up the arse. Hard

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  127. Liz says:

    That Dear Deidre letter is hilarious. 😆

    OT: A bird built a nest on our electrical meter gauge box (whateveritscalled).
    The first portion of nest blew away on the first attempt. I was relieved because it is very exposed to the elements.
    But, lo…the nest that was broken was rebuilt. This bird obviously learned nothing at all.
    So I asked the boys to put a little mesh net around it for stability. For two days we had some really strong gale force winds the nest withstood only due to our little engineers…
    Now the bird sits upon the nest.
    I have some questions…
    -the nest is too small, and seems really awkward for the bird sitting in it.
    Mike likened it to him squatting on a toddler’s potty.
    It’s also in an awkward location. Looks uncomfortable for the bird.
    Is this a thing?
    (I looked up robins nests, think this is a robin…it’s hard to tell…maybe?)

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  128. Liked by 2 people

  129. The robin will likely be fine. But yes, the nesting sometimes doesn’t work out for all sorts of reasons… it may be her first time. Hopefully it will be a success! I’d say let nature take its course…

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  130. Well, I guess that technically correct CdO, but that seems to be more-so in the letter and less in the spirit …


  131. I don’t know re gaslighting vs ordinary lying, except gaslighting also undermines one’s sense of self and is harmful in all sorts of ways so maybe it’s worse? It’s kinda like asking is it worse to be bit by a rattlesnake or stung by a scorpion… both are bad!

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  132. CDO that’s good re the vitamin D and your mom’s mood! Another upside for sure! Maybe the protestors need some? 🤪

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  133. If you’ve read his actual email, he was very polite, but said that no, he couldn’t really change anything per the college rules, and since the entirety of the grade for the class was based on the final, not having the final was not something he could do.

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  134. Yes, yes she is.


  135. SFC Ton says:

    Minneapolis has a huge Somlia refuge community. Shit will be awesome of they defend the police

    Also some time back a Somlia police officer, the 1st one Minneapolis ever produced shot a White women when he was responding to her call. No media outrage at all.

    Fuck the police.

    In other news some moon crickets all fired up on George Floyd rage or some such tried to attack me today in a parking lot. My crime? Walking slow and looking like a racist Trump voters.

    I doubt there will be any media coverage. No one in the media cares about the negro low intensity war on Whites. If there is any, I’m sure it will be spun but I am more sure it won’t even make the local news. If nothing else no one what’s trouist to dip out now that shit is opened up….. The pavement apes are from out of town. I was questioned and released. No charges, no silver bracelets. I broke my pinky though. The vibrants were carted off in an ambulance but intresting enough the EMT’s did not exit their ride until the law showed up. Turns out it was a family team building event for them or some such since it was a father son duo.

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  136. 4 D chess… might explain what those unmarked popo we saw the other day we’re up to, too.

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  137. Ton sounds like they are lucky that did not end more badly for them.

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  138. SFC Ton says:

    I’m guessing Minneapolis isn’t heavily armed.

    Are city yankees ever gunned up?

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  139. JPF says:

    Sympathies for your finger Ton.

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  140. SFC Ton says:

    We shall see RPG.

    One of them wanted me arrested becuase folks would not let them leave, the other was not verbally responsive

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  141. SFC Ton says:

    My Sith name is

    Ton. Them mother fuckers dream about rolling like this

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  142. SFC Ton says:

    LOL I’m a tad embarrassed about a sloppy hook

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  143. SFC Ton says:

    Systemic racism is apparently bitching about White folks for creating a civilization built on what works for White folk?

    It takes a college degree to be that fucking stupid. Probably more then one per dumb ass

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  144. horsemanbombadil says:

    The power of decisiveness.

    Once you drop into the pocket on short final you ARE committed.
    No floating it or going long.
    You either plant it right or eat a tree.

    Love the location.

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  145. SFC Ton says:

    LOL the French article is correct

    It is dangeroues to go to black neighbourhood. Blacks steal at a much higher rate, and if theyb look around and see an unattended black kid… as in no black adults near by…… They might just be concerned she is lost or worse. Blacks invade other folks community pools all the time.

    It isn’t White folks fault reality is racist

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  146. Farm Boy says:

    Google Chrome team moving away from the words ‘blacklist’ and ‘whitelist’ to be more inclusive


  147. h0neyc0mb says:

    Not when I lived up there .. 2000 – 2005.5 ..

    But some do have some guns and ammo. Nothing to your or my level.

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  148. theshadowedknight says:

    Technically I am a city yankee, and I am armed. Though I heard rumor that Maine was the one Northern state sonsidering joining the Confederacy in seceding. We are a different breed.

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  149. Farm Boy says:

    [If lots of babies killed they are,
    less need for police there would be]


  150. Farm Boy says:

    Here is a defund that I can get behind

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  151. SFC Ton says:

    I have discovered the amount of fire power I poses makes other gun nuts uncomfortable. I have about 4 times the number of tax stamps then the average supper own has guns

    Outside of gifts I have not bought anything in years. I use to a lot 35% of a not small income into ammo and what not but I built most of my rifles when kits were cheap. Build 5, sell one…. buy 5 more kits.

    I also use to buy ammo by the pallet until they shut that shit down

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  152. SFC Ton says:

    LOL there are big cities in Maine?

    Liked by 1 person

  153. It doesn’t sound like too sloppy of a left hook!

    Liked by 1 person

  154. Did your finger break on contact? Or?


  155. In other news, reconnecting with the farm folk is paying off already! A friend’s husband will be here next week with his tractor to turn 2 plus weeks of work into four short hours @$40 per. Well worth it!

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  156. Liz says:

    Wealthy buyers reportedly in ‘mad rush’ to leave San Francisco

    I have a rice a roni sized violin playing.

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  157. Liz says:

    Did your finger break on contact? Or?

    Maybe he just used his pinky finger because they whole fist was too powerful? 😉
    I suspect the girls will like this story very much.

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  158. Liz says:

    I’m sorry about your paw, too Ton.
    Hope it heals quickly.

    Liked by 1 person

  159. Liz says:

    Did I mention it snowed here last night? About four inches.

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  160. SFC Ton says:

    Not sure when I broke it but given it’s the knuckle it was a punch and I only throw hooks with my left

    Liked by 1 person

  161. Sumo says:

    My crime? Walking slow and looking like a racist Trump voters.

    That’s what you get for walking while white. 😀

    LOL I’m a tad embarrassed about a sloppy hook

    Best start hitting the bag again.

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  162. SFC Ton says:

    Best start hitting the bag again.

    LOL hell no

    My hands are near on crippled as it is

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  163. Farm Boy says:

    As unrest swept the city Sunday, aldermen pleaded with Mayor Lori Lightfoot to help them protect their communities from roving bands of criminals clashing with police and looting businesses

    While one alderman wept, others grew angry with the mayor, demanding to know what her strategy was to stop the violence that began in earnest late Saturday


  164. Farm Boy says:

    That would be the mayor of Chicago

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  165. Well, not like Radcliffe, but yeah.


  166. Farm Boy says:

    [Burned that down they did]

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  167. That’s treat for you, isn’t it?


  168. SFC Ton says:

    Bullets should remove a little less then 1% of a person body mass when they get full penetration… that meme needs correcting 😉 but it’s almost funny

    Liked by 1 person

  169. SFC Ton says:

    What’s a Radcliff?


  170. Right next to Fort Knox. Most of the strip clubs and shitty motels are within its limits.

    Liked by 1 person

  171. “Hey, bitch, why the long face?”

    “If Obama had a daughter with my sister, she’d look just like you.”

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  172. Farm Boy says:

    A non-peer reviewed Harvard Medical School (HMS) study has posited it is possible the coronavirus COVID-19 first appeared in Wuhan, China, much earlier than November 2019, as previously supposed. The study opined that the virus, which was first reported to the WHO in late December 2019, may have appeared first in August 2019


  173. So meanwhile I struggle to have enthusiasm for anything because everything seems so f’ing nihilistic… suggestions? Anyone?

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  174. Farm Boy says:

    I agree with Honeycomb in that the Red Pill is basically the approach of facing the bitter, uncomfortable truths about women and life in general. Overall, it’s better to face the truth, but what a man does with this information rests entirely on the individual man.

    Avoiding or rejecting marriage is a conclusion based on a Red Pill analysis of the current state of the marriage marketplace. It has become obvious that marriage is a horrible deal for the average man these days, but that doesn’t mean that it can’t be done successfully.


  175. Farm Boy says:

    While urging everyone else to stay inside and practice safe social distancing, Democrats are actively encouraging black people to go outside and gather in large protest groups during a pandemic that has already killed over 110,000 Americans.

    Black lives literally don’t matter to Democrats.

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  176. bee123456 says:

    Richard P.,

    “An example of how the “lived experience” of whites in America are fundamentally different from the “lived experiences” of people of color.”

    David French’s daughter is not an example of “systemic racism”.

    These lived experiences have nothing to do with white people. You get the same results when white people live in Hispanic, Caribbean, African, or Asian countries, and when a Mexican lives in Africa, etc, etc. This is just human nature; when you parachute a person from a different tribe and cultural background into a different area these things happen. Many people of all races are rude and insensitive. This is not unique to whites.

    I have lived in two foreign countries; non-white, non-Western. I experienced stares, rudeness, and felt like an outsider. But, I knew I was an outsider and I tried to behave as a guest.

    Anyone that things this is unique to the USA, or that this is an example of systemic racism, or that politicians and laws can fix this is naive.

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  177. theshadowedknight says:

    Bloom, be merry! The Lord, Christ, is with us! This is the death throes of a mad religion, and its satanic adherents. There is nothing to mourn. Their own cities burn, and they flail ineffectually at the God-Emperor.

    Go outside, and enjoy the fresh air. Play some games with your kids. Do something you love. Smile, laugh. This work is for us men. If you get worn down, go rest. There is always tomorrow.

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  178. Farm Boy says:

    It seems to me that the “conversation” about Black Lives that is focused on intersectionality is focused on doctrine to the exclusion of life itself; the exclusion of physical, actionable life itself. Rather than focus on how people live or even what they think and feel, the focus is on confession, language, and conversion to a doctrine.
    Someone asked if what was going on was a religion.
    Not only is it a religion but it can’t even really be discussed without using religious terms.


  179. whiteguy1 says:

    RPG, TSK has some good counsel, however since Ton is probably fishing or something, I’ll will give you some more advice:

    You need to invite your man over for a joint session of cardio, buy him a plane ticket if need be.

    Should clear up that nihilism really quickly.

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  180. Very true this is work for men. Yet I suppose while I don’t have sons myself, I know men will be harmed in the process. But I will try to let it go…

    And the idiots continue… Seattle city council member unlocks city hall for protestors…


  181. Six block area of Seattle taken over by anti fa:


  182. Farm Boy says:

    We have a relatively small group of loonies, mostly confined to the large city centers, making lots of noise. They dare Trump and/or other authorities to take them down so that they can be martyrs. In Trump’s case, he needs to invoke “insurrection” to do that, which he is hesitant to do.

    Short answer- there aren’t that many people, which get magnified by the media and the fact that people internalize negative things more, as described in a post here a week or so ago.

    Shorter answer- many are waiting for these people to get bored and go home

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  183. Farm Boy says:

    The Guardian sez

    The climate-change-denying right is often ridiculed, correctly, for politicizing science. Yet the way the public health narrative around coronavirus has reversed itself overnight seems an awful lot like … politicizing science.

    What are we to make of such whiplash-inducing messaging? Merely pointing out the inconsistency in such a polarized landscape feels like an act of heresy. But “‘Your gatherings are a threat, mine aren’t,’ is fundamentally illogical, no matter who says it or for what reason,”


  184. Farm Boy says:

    The police forces will arrive at the scene of a crime, pull out their djembes and guitars, and start singing beautiful lines like, “Imagine there’s no heaven / It’s easy if you try


  185. Farm Boy says:

    Obama was the first indicator that the media would simply refuse to cover stories they didn’t like about a politician they did. The media covered Clinton’s Chinagate and Travelgate. But they refused to cover the IRS scandal with the same level of vim as they would have under Bush; they downplayed the Obama administration’s involvement in the botched “Fast and Furious” gun operation scandal; and members of the mainstream media openly mocked the right’s anger over the administration’s manipulation of the 2012 Benghazi terror attack. Obama had to be protected at all costs, including the cost of the media’s credibility.

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  186. Liz says:

    These lived experiences have nothing to do with white people. You get the same results when white people live in Hispanic, Caribbean, African, or Asian countries, and when a Mexican lives in Africa, etc, etc.

    This is so true. Anyone who complains about the racism here is showing their ignorance. We’re the least racist society on the planet.

    [True this is]

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  187. Like

  188. I think he meant train wreck not car wreck but if you need a laugh here it is! 🤣

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  189. Exactly, are they going to provide their own water? Power? Garbage service? Etc? Oh no, wait, I am sure they will want Seattle to provide all that…

    Not sure why the link didn’t work in the last post.

    Liked by 1 person

  190. Liz says:

    Just got a letter for the previous resident of our home.
    Addressed to: “(his name) Custom Flooring”
    In a house that had 25 year old carpet in every bathroom.
    Now I know what his front was.

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  191. horsemanbombadil says:


    Remember the adage “the world is not fair, make it unfair in your favour.”

    With the ability to see thru the bs, to decide and act independently you have all the tools for a happy life if you chose. (Choice being the key)

    Feminism removed us from the burden of performance, I don’t Have to marry or support a family unless I Choose to.

    These times remove us from many old burdens.

    White lives don’t matter, so I am removed from the burden of having to support other groups unless I chose to.

    Business has been abandoned or looted so I am removed from the burden of running it in any way other than as I chose.

    My home is no longer supported or protected by the community so I am removed from the burden of abiding by community standards.

    My consumption, wealth is privalege so I am relieved of the burden of alms or community investment except where I chose.

    My skills are not valued for merit so I am removed from the burden of performing for my employer except where I chose.

    Your self, skills, resources are yours alone. You will be treated by others by whim or political whims in no relation to your actions. So act in your interests.

    My town is degrading. So move. My boss is an asshole. So quit. My partner makes my life difficult. So decouple.

    But I can’t because……these times have stripped the old excuses.

    Yes taking action is hard, scary.
    Doing nothing does not have no effect like a car stopped on the roadside.
    Doing nothing exposes you to the whims of the world around you like a boat stopping its motor to drift on the current.

    Find joy in your life. Decide and act to make you happy.

    White flight or gentrification….I live where I chose, don’t like my house get offa my lawn.
    Skills gap….I have mine, either trade honestly or go away
    Wealth inequality….I earned it and will spend it as I please, not on you

    By seeing this coming and ACTING I have carved out
    “His own little land the borders of which only he can see, waiting perhaps for a change of days.”

    You can too.

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  192. @RPG “So meanwhile I struggle to have enthusiasm for anything because everything seems so f’ing nihilistic… suggestions? Anyone?”

    When I’m “at work” most of the time now I find myself thinking, “what a bunch of bullshit this is”, so you are not alone, but think about how hardship is making you a better, more resilient person. We having had to go to the mattresses just yet, but we’ll be better able to handle it when we do.

    Struggling with bullshit at work is my major “first world problem” right now. Before the fake virus catastrophe, we were having to work on a bunch of SOGI documentation. What’s SOGI? Sexual Orientation/Gender Identity. You might know it by the layman’s term, bullshit. But, we had to do it because the vendor baked some shit in that was breaking other shit because we hadn’t bent the knee on this particular bullshit yet.

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  193. Looks like the video TSK posted a few days back had gone viral. The comments are gold.

    “How ya liking that defunded police idea now?” Or “not having Constitutional rights bc America is a bunch of BS.” Enjoy! 🤣


  194. They took over a section of Seattle? Turn off power and water and let them build their own infrastructure. Also let them grow their own food (and coffee beans).

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  195. True, I should just grab my poolside seat and enjoy the show! 🥳🥂


  196. They don’t want to martyrs, they want to rule. However, they may be made into “bloody shirt” martyrs against their will so others can rule.


  197. There was a posting on Twitter that got deleted by a woman who said there’s already plans in the work to trigger Trump supporter violence against the Muslim make that go viral. Apparently there’s already leaflet some pamphlets printed up ready for the outrage to begin. I guess we’ll find out soon enough if it’s true.


  198. I’m sure Seattle government is actually gonna keep the lights and water on, otherwise RACISS!

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  199. SFC Ton says:

    I’d love a 911 police response opt out. Hell EMT’s too since they send you a bill even though you pay property taxes and what not

    Refund my portion of taxes that fund it
    Don’t hassle me when I settle things my way.

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  200. SFC Ton says:

    We’re the least racist society on the planet.
    Which is why we are dying

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  201. RichardP says:

    @bee 123456 said: David French’s daughter is not an example of “systemic racism”.

    1. The question was asked whether anyone had a definition for “systemic racism”. The two links I provided gave information on how one group of folks define it. French’s article acknowledged that different groups define “systemic racism” differently. Your response is proof that French’s point on this matter is correct. Which is why I linked to French’s article in the first place. You presume in your response to me that your statement “French’s daughter is not an example of ‘systemic racism’ is the universal position on the matter. It is not. That is neither good nor bad. It just is.

    2. You compare your lived experiences as a visitor in a different country to the lived experiences of citizens in their own country. And think that your example addresses the point(s) raised. It does not. I don’t know if you meant this, but your example says that it should be acceptable for citizens in their own country to be treated as though they are a visitor to that country. If you did not mean to say that, then your experiences in foreign countries as a visitor has no place in this conversation. The discussion is about the definition of “systemic racism” among peoples of a single country. It is not a discussion of systemic anything among peoples of different countries when they are travelling outside of their homeland.

    3. Within this country, Californians who move to Idaho may be treated as intruders by the locals. Within this country, blacks (or other ethnic groups) who move into all-white neighborhoods may be treated as intruders by the locals. Ever this has been, and ever it shall be. Which is why I stated upthread that I think systemic preferences is a better phrase than systemic racism. Everybody prefers what they are comfortable with. And what folks generally are most comfortable with is being around the folks who raised them, or folks who are like the folks who raised them. For the most part, Californians are raised differently than Idahoans. Hence the prejudice against Californians who move to Idaho. For the most part, blacks are raised differently from whites. Hence the prejudice against blacks who move to white neighborhoods. But this systemic preference for what we are comfortable with also exists within ethnic groups. There was (still is?) strong prejudice within the white group against Italians and Irishmen (who are also white) in an earlier part of the American history. There was (still is?) strong prejudice between Protestants and Catholics (who are also white) in an earlier part of the American history.

    Systemic Preferences – its what’s for lunch. The whold world over.


  202. “Hell EMT’s too since they send you a bill even though you pay property taxes and what not”

    We had an elderly lady who would call EMS every couple of weeks when she would get lonely and c/o chest pains so they would bring her in to our ER (I was pretty new there at the time). So the state got to pickup the bill for her ambulance ride and medicare got to pay for het complete cardiac workup, every freaking time. Finally a new doc complained about seeing her for the fourth time in 2 months and called a social worker down to consult. The SW set her up to come in 3 times a week volunteer. Didn’t see again for the rest of the time I worked there.

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  203. SFC Ton says:

    No the prejudice against blacks is becuase they are extremely dysfunctional, criminal and violent

    I don’t much care for cathloics because they are hugely hypocritical and progressive but they aren’t violent and criminal…. unless you count child rape, covering up child rspe and Mexicans and what not

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  204. SFC Ton says:

    Shit some times they do mange to bring some good into the world

    Liked by 1 person

  205. Liz says:

    2. You compare your lived experiences as a visitor in a different country to the lived experiences of citizens in their own country. And think that your example addresses the point(s) raised. It does not. I don’t know if you meant this, but your example says that it should be acceptable for citizens in their own country to be treated as though they are a visitor to that country.

    I do not think this is an accurate assessment of what he said.
    He mentioned living in country, not passing through as a tourist (though that too can tell one a lot in some places).
    I also do not think citizenship is the big factor. One of our sons is an Italian citizen, and cannot remember Italy at all.
    We lived next to an Ethiopian family in Washington DC. They’d lived there for years.
    Would you say their perspective is irrelevant as they are just “visitors” compared to the experiences of this adopted child living in an upper class neighborhood?


  206. Liz, is that you?!? 🤣😂🤣 Wait don’t answer just let me believe it is LOL!

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  207. I find that quite humorous.

    Liked by 2 people

  208. SFC Ton says:

    They need food

    I have a bull turning mean……

    Liked by 2 people

  209. b g says:

    Well, here’s a picture of a happy camper ;-D

    Liked by 5 people

  210. Ame says:

    20h ago
    So meanwhile I struggle to have enthusiasm for anything because everything seems so f’ing nihilistic… suggestions? Anyone?

    stop reading. stop listening. choose what you allow into your mind. don’t allow all this stuff into your mind that you know will suck the life out of you. you do not need to keep up with all current events. pick one something to skim occasionally, and let it go.

    you pass on to your daughters your emotions. choose to get rid of the bad ones, including anything causing the bad ones. choose to hold onto the good ones – including anything leading to the good ones.

    Philippians 4:8-9 English Standard Version (ESV)
    8 Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things. 9 What you have learned and received and heard and seen in me—practice these things, and the God of peace will be with you.

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  211. Ame says:

    I have lived in two foreign countries; non-white, non-Western. I experienced stares, rudeness, and felt like an outsider. But, I knew I was an outsider and I tried to behave as a guest.

    Anyone that things this is unique to the USA, or that this is an example of systemic racism, or that politicians and laws can fix this is naive.

    from what i hear, most foreign countries hate americans and have no trouble expressing such emotion.


  212. SFC Ton says:

    from what i hear, most foreign countries hate americans and have no trouble expressing such emotion.

    That depends on how big a boy you are or how many Rangers with M4’s you have

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  213. That’s a lunch date I’d look forward to.

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  214. “from what i hear, most foreign countries hate americans and have no trouble expressing such emotion.”

    Umm, I would say “back at ’em”, but the truth is, I DGAF. They can have their opinions as long as they keep their opinions and their peoples inside their own borders.

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  215. b g says:


    If you girls need a bit of happiness check out my post above ;-D

    Liked by 1 person

  216. bee123456 says:

    Richard P.,

    1. The fact that David French thinks his daughter experience proves a significant point that he promotes on TV shows that he is naive. The fact that you are promoting his point on this matter shows that you are naive.

    2. Don’t twist my words, I lived in these countries, I was not a visitor.

    I was not born in those countries, but French’s daughter was also not born in this country.

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  217. b g says:

    Nevermind, KH just opened it up,,,nothing happier than a retriever pup finally getting to sit at the table, except maybe one finding access to single malt with ice cubes ;-D

    Liked by 3 people

  218. SFC Ton says:

    My dogs prefer sweet table wines

    Liked by 2 people

  219. b g says:

    Hmmm, well, to my sorrow mine will not only suck up any unprotected scotch glass but grin and crush and and swallow the ice cubes ;-D

    Liked by 2 people

  220. Ame says:

    BG – that’s awesome! 😁


  221. Liz says:

    from what i hear, most foreign countries hate americans and have no trouble expressing such emotion

    Yes and no. Depends on the month or year.
    Really, it’s much better to be an American than someone else, just about everywhere else.

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  222. Man, I love crinkle fries and those look to be done just right.

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  223. Sumo says:

    Really, it’s much better to be an American than someone else, just about everywhere else.

    Liked by 3 people

  224. RichardP says:

    @bee and Liz – we have gotten off the track. Bee, I think you have an agenda. Liz, I’m not sure. You’ve both avoided the simple point of why I posted those links: they give one description of the phrase FB asked about, and French’s experience raising a black daughter was significantly different than his experience raising white daughters. French gave that difference in experience as one example of the definition French was discussing.

    Bee, for you to say that French is promoting something and that makes him naive is why I think you have an agenda. Double so for your thought that I am promoting something that French is promoting. French had one experience with white daughters, a different experience with black daughter. Speaking about that difference, stating that it happened – what does naive have to do with that process (either for French or me, and rhetorical)? And what is he promoting, other than an example of an academic definition of a phrase (except that he was offering that definition as one among several, not promoting it). That is a problem why? And what am I promoting??? (rhetorical) I gave FB a definition of the phrase he asked for. I think French’s example of two different experiences in raiseing daughters, based on skin color, was useful. The end.

    Keep in mind that I don’t know the man or his politics or his presence on television. Bee (and to a lesser extent, Liz) – you have taken this conversation way beyond the simple point I made. At least for bee, it appears that you have some experience with the man and his politics – and so your comments are pulling into this discussion your attitudes toward those other experiences. I only know the definition given and his example from his own life to back up that definition. My thoughts do not, cannot (because I don’t know the man), go beyond that.


  225. SFC Ton says:

    French is always promoting his leftists world view

    Liked by 1 person

  226. Are you smarter than a goose?

    Liked by 2 people

  227. Liz says:

    I had never heard of David French before reading that article.


  228. Farm Boy says:

    At one time David French was going to save us from Trump by running for President

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  229. Liz says:

    Got it. 😆


  230. RichardP says:

    With regard to bee 123456 and Liz’ comments to me, and my response to them, this might make my position more clear: (I have not yet read any comments after my last post above.)

    1. I thought this was obvious, but maybe not:

    a. French had a certain experience when raising two white daughters.

    b. French had a different experience when raising a black adopted daughter.

    c. If French had adopted a white girl instead of a black girl, would his experience raising her be closer to 1(a) or 1(b)?

    d. Point 1(c) is in view in my comments up-thread. To make the comparison to be about lived experiences in this country vs. lived experiences in a different country, as both bee and Liz did, is to change the subject entirely.

    2. I assumed the following in my response to bee 123456:

    a. bee was neither born and raised in, nor a citizen of, the countries he referenced.

    b. bee was not a tourist to the countries he referenced.

    c. therefore, the term “visitor” seemed most appropriate to describe his status in those countries for the time he was there. If a different word is more appropriate, I have no problem using that different word. What I have a problem with is bee and Liz changing the subject away from Point 1(c) above, when that is what French was using as an example of one definition of systemic racism.

    d. Whatever French’s politics are and however he presents himself on television is irrelevant to the question posed at Point 1(c) above. As is the fact that Liz’s son was born in Italy. What bee said about French and Liz said about her son are worth discussing in a different context. But not within the context of Point 1(c) above.


  231. SFC Ton says:

    French got him an orc to raise just so he could virtue signal and tell everyone else they are racist

    Go looking for something and you’ll find it

    #2) his list of shit that is racist all stems from the reality of TNB. No one in his examples were being racist they were all being cautious


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