Lately, the idea of a Karen has been floating around the web.  What is a Karen? The consensus seems to a a late 30s or 40s woman who likes to throw her weight around (in a semi-ladylike (or maybe SIW) manner).  The classic Karen move is to be in a restaurant and demand to see the manager because of whatever reason.  It is not so much about there being a problem, but more to show that she is somebody to be reckoned with, that she knows what she is doing,  and furthermore, she has high standards.  It doesn’t need to be a manager that a Karen tells off; it can be anybody.  All one needs to do is be a useful other in order for a Karen to pounce.

So how do Karens form?  By the late 30s, they have gathered lots of social experience.  Being a young women, being the thing that everybody desires, allows them to build up lots of experience and social skills, even if they are not looking for them.  Furthermore, many of these skills involve manipulation.  Suddenly, their physical attractiveness wanes; they like the attention, so what could they do?  One answer is obvious: up their Karen game.  They can go high-brow and righteous;, putting on a good show.  What is not to like?

So is there a problem?  I might suggest that there are many.  One big one is that Karens often don’t have much idea of how the real world works.  They don’t understand the compromises that people must make to get on with life, what work and struggle really is, having to figure your what needs to be done and making it happen, etc.  Untethered righteousness just does not work well in such a world.  People rather look down on it.  Of course, the Karen’s audience is normally just as clueless about the real world as they are, so they eat it all up.  Everybody else, not so much.  So, surprised the Karens are.

Exit question — How much do people named Karen dislike this terminology?

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186 comments on “Karens
  1. Liz says:

    Exit question — How much do people named Karen dislike this terminology?

    Probably a great deal.
    Glad my name isn’t Karen. 😆

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  2. h0neyc0mb says:

    Somebody is having a Bad hair Karen day ™ ..

    Bread loafs on Twitter: “Look what i done witness in kendall https://t.co/T1w4lE3QY2” / Twitter

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  3. h0neyc0mb says:

    Though this seems to be the conventional name series (with age range) ..

    Becky (20’s) ..
    Karen (30s – 40s) ..
    Susan (50s+)

    My conclusion ..
    They’re all Karens to me!

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  4. Liz says:

    Nice fanny pack. 😆

    This should be a better link than the one up top (fingers crossed):

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  5. Jack says:

    Karen is a somewhat popular name among females of my generation (Xers), which fits the age range. However, all the Karens I have known were much more feminine (humble and submissive) than average. Maybe too submissive, because they didn’t know how to say no when necessary. Although it does seem to fit, I find it regrettable that this stereotype has adopted this label. I feel sorry for those nice Karens who aren’t like the memeworthy Karens. Poor Karen.

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  6. Cill says:

    I know a Karen. Her name is Karen and she is a Karen.

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  7. h0neyc0mb says:

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  8. h0neyc0mb says:

    Ya big softy 😂

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  9. okrahead says:

    Karens have some decidedly masculine traits… Short hair, expect to be able to exercise authority over other people, aggressive and confrontational, demanding… Some of the Karen traits are really a mockery of true masculinity, e.g. making unreasonable and irrational demands on others time and property, being abusive to those who are less powerful, etc. Karen seems to be jealous that she’s aged out, men are ignoring her, and tries to morph herself into what she thinks a man should be.

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  10. Sumo says:

    Snitches bitches Karens get stitches.

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  11. Liz says:

    Karens have some decidedly masculine traits

    Yeah. I’m like…why you try so hard to get men not to like you when you so hard to like?

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  12. okrahead says:

    I worked with a Karen named Karen for about a year. I ended up (almost) feeling bad for her before I moved on… She had several pictures of her daughters up on her desk and around her work station, all of whom seemed to be lovely young women. She told me that all of them had left home and none of them would speak to her… She had talked to none of them in over a year. Sometimes even the wicked get worse than they deserve.

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  13. SFC Ton says:

    Shouldn’t the SJW’s be in full melt down over that sexist emjoio thing?

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  14. Cill says:

    There are Karens all over the place. The most tiresome of all IMO are the Kiwi Karens. They include PPPs of yesteryear – retired PPPs striving to put their personal histories behind them. They have discontinued their drunken displays in public but in private their lewd promiscuity lurks just below the surface.

    Some Karens have never been PPPs as such.

    PPPs or not, all Kiwi Karens are Princesses with a capital P. They all turn on a performance when they are complaining or otherwise holding society to ransom. They are haughty, superior, insistent.

    Karens worldwide are like that I guess. The feature of Kiwi Karens that makes them particularly annoying is the poncy faux upper-class English accent they put on when performing. The accent does not exist in England today and probably never did. Its pathetic.

    A typical Karen trick is to demand an answer e.g. “I don’t think this is an acceptable quality of service, do you?”

    The way to squash them is to copy their accent back at them e.g. “Madam, I don’t think your performance is an acceptable standard of behaviour, do you?”

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  15. Larry G says:

    Maybe being a Karen is just a hangover from being a feminist in their younger years. Doesn’t matter really, once a cunt always a cunt

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  16. Larry G says:

    ‘Murder Hornets’ in the U.S.: The Rush to Stop the Asian Giant Hornet

    Wear a face mask, shit for brains and stay 6 feet way the fuck over there! And take your giant killer pet hornet with you

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  17. Larry G says:

    Houston, we have a problem…

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  18. Sumo says:

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  19. Larry G says:

    White cat in the side pocket..

    [Wonder if Liz can explain this behavior I do]

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  20. Larry G says:

    The Anatomy of a Was…western woman
    same attributes though…

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  21. Sumo says:

    The Anatomy of a Was…western woman
    same attributes though…

    Kind of glad I’ve never met a woman with an arse dagger. That would have been…..awkward.

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  22. Cill says:

    An arse dagger would have to slot into LGBTQX somewhere, I think.

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  23. okrahead says:

    Ah Sumo, if you think that’s bad, it’s nothing compared to Vagina dentata.

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  24. Larry G says:

    thinking a female arse dagger would be an accessory, like a purse, shoes or lipstick….one could order it online


  25. Cill says:

    … Somewhere between a coprophiliac and a bum bandit


  26. Cill says:

    It’s raining scats cats and dogs here. Time for a CDDU to take me mind off of arse daggers and vagina dentata. Cheers mates.

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  27. JPF says:

    @okrahead: She told me that all of them had left home and none of them would speak to her

    I would not be quick to assume she does not deserve it.
    Consider women’s in-group preference, and the natural bonding that should occur with a loving mother.
    If at least three daughters want nothing to do with their mother… Occam’s razor… she earned it.

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  28. Adam says:

    Kiwi Karens are the absolute worst. The sound of their voice is like a thousand seagulls fighting over the last chip on the planet.

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  29. Cheque d'Out says:

    Princess Karen?

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  30. Karens are created by weak men

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  31. Farm Boy says:

    [Call it “Karen of all bombs” they could]

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  32. Liz says:

    Mother of all bombs.
    Must be the No Dong. 😆


  33. Liz says:

    Good writeup, KH.


  34. Larry G says:

    Yoda on a roll….

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  35. horsemanbombadil says:

    Some perspective

    Comment in https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-canadas-immunity-task-force-takes-aim-at-pressing-covid-19-questions

    “Furthermore, from the April 28, Dr. Tam [Canada’s Chief Medical Officer] modelling briefing, we know where to focus our resources in the event of a resurgence: the elderly (95% of deaths) and those with underlying health conditions (74% of hospitalizations).

    Or to put things another way, of the 2,561 deaths by April 28, only about 128 were from the under 60 crowd, from which we can infer that about 34 did not have underlying health conditions.

    And to put things in perspective, here is a quote from the Environment Canada website: “between 100 and 150 people are injured each year by lightning in Canada”.

    So a young, healthy person is four times LESS likely to die from Covid than they are of being struck by lightning.”

    Math is a little off. 34 in 2 months is 204 deaths per year.

    Or 1 1\3 times more than being struck by lightning!!!

    So we did all this to protect us from the threat of lightning???

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  36. horsemanbombadil says:

    Karen’s, like any bully, are just trying to force their wants or opinions when they lack confidence or authority to be listened to. A side benefit is the attention even if it is bad attention.

    The obvious answer is ignoring them.

    “Mame, thanks for the opinion but we won’t be changing”
    “Mame, if you want to take your business elsewhere, please go ahead”
    Mame, if you don’t like how we do it, do it yourself”

    And in all three cases walk away.

    (There really is no greater pleasure than looking a Karen in the eye, silently, gathering up my tools, and walking away from the job. Maybe a wave at her screeching as I get in the truck.)

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  37. Sumo says:

    Thanks a lot, Lizard.

    [Add this I will]

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  38. horsemanbombadil says:

    Spending a year working in the barn with horses, who don’t vocalize, taught me much about the core of communication.

    Body language is everything.

    There is nothing more powerful than silence.
    It freaks people out. Humans want to vocalize even when they don’t need to

    And if you get your message across without words, the message recieved is ramped up a gazzilion.

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  39. That’s for saying it me who peed in the corner.

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  40. Ame says:

    FB – can you post that pic that shows which msm are married to/related to, which liberals?

    [The trouble is that I really dont have it handy – FB]


  41. Adam says:

    Body language is everything.

    There is nothing more powerful than silence.
    It freaks people out. Humans want to vocalize even when they don’t need to

    And if you get your message across without words, the message recieved is ramped up a gazzilion

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  42. Farm Boy says:

    “I can tell you that there is a significant amount of evidence that this came from that laboratory in Wuhan,” Pompeo said on ABC’s “This Week.” “These are not the first times that we’ve had a world exposed to viruses as a result of failures in a Chinese lab.”



  43. Ame says:

    okay, thanks.

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  44. Farm Boy says:

    For an array of major institutions throughout American civic life, there will be two camps: the smaller will be the ones who decoupled themselves from the People’s Republic of China and the Chinese Communist Party as soon as possible; and the larger will be those who, as events unfold, will wish they had. The former will feature an outsized number of manufacturing and wares firms with supply-chain and logistical concerns. The latter will disproportionately feature American institutions of higher education, for reasons varying from the material (addiction to PRC-student money and PRC-adjacent funding) to the ideological (affinity for Communism, progressive antipathy toward the United States).

    In the middle will be entertainment: the NBA and the left-wing athleisure class confronted with the reality that America is in fact the greater good; and Hollywood, stripped of its dreams of one billion theatergoers. Their US-side audiences, always their most lucrative core and also always well to their right, will pull them back. With the new Top Gun delayed to Christmas, there’s still time to get that Taiwanese flag back on Maverick’s jacket.



  45. Ame says:

    had to get off facebook and come over here to get some sanity! i have some sweet friends over there, but they are sooo gullible and totally manipulated by the media … and apparently don’t have enough computer skills to find other sources of information other than the propaganda that’s being blasted into their minds 24/7. it’s like they’re addicted to fear.

    wrote my peace … gave a few links … x’d out.

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  46. Farm Boy says:

    While Brits remain on lockdown and most domestic flights are cancelled, it has been revealed that 100,000 people are arriving at British airports from abroad every single week.


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  47. Farm Boy says:

    So which is the more harmful plague? The Chinese Virus From Wuhan, China or Facebook?

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  48. okrahead says:

    My favorite Karen was the church lady from SNL

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  49. Ame says:

    The ones who are most vulnerable are older. They aren’t “Karen’s.” They want to do the right thing and protect themselves and their families. They don’t understand all the various sources of news that have popped up with the expansion of the internet. They believe what they know, and that’s the msm. I’m trying to be kind. Give them a different perspective. Then let it go.

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  50. Farm Boy says:

    It is true that many older people do not realize that the MSM is pushing their own agenda, one that might be detrimental to older Americans

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  51. Farm Boy says:

    On Facebook yesterday, my mayor got a multi, multi-paragraph rant from a woman upset about all sorts of people and places that weren’t social distancing to her satisfaction. The woman’s name was actually Karen.


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  52. Farm Boy says:

    China, never receptive to outside criticism and wary of damage to its domestic control and long economic reach, has responded aggressively, combining medical aid to other countries with harsh nationalist rhetoric, and mixing demands for gratitude with economic threats.

    The result has only added momentum to the blowback and the growing mistrust of China in Europe and Africa, undermining China’s desired image as a generous global actor


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  53. Farm Boy says:

    If accurate, that would mean that Moscow has more cases than New York City. The New York Times reported on Sunday morning that New York City had over 177,000 confirmed coronavirus cases.



  54. Farm Boy says:

    California Governor Gavin Newsom is vexed that no one in his state is obey his “stay at home” order after years of him encouraging illegal immigration.


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  55. horsemanbombadil says:

    You always wanted to.


  56. Farm Boy says:

    “The analysis states that, while downplaying the severity of the coronavirus, China increased imports and decreased exports of medical supplies,” The Associated Press reported. “It attempted to cover up doing so by ‘denying there were export restrictions and obfuscating and delaying provision of its trade data,’ the analysis states.”



  57. Farm Boy says:

    Question of the day — Why is the media trying to scare everybody as much as they can?

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  58. h0neyc0mb says:

    Because they (i.e. MSM) are the enemy of the people.

    Liked by 4 people

  59. Farm Boy says:

    She also told CNN’s Jake Tapper that she resented always getting asked about sexual assault claims, saying the issue reopens “old wounds.” Yet she did not hesitate to reopen those wounds when Christine Blasey Ford accused then-Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexual assault.



  60. SFC Ton says:

    Question of the day — Why is the media trying to scare everybody as much as they can?

    Fear sells a lot of papers

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  61. Ame says:

    Question of the day — Why is the media trying to scare everybody as much as they can?

    fear is a great manipulator.

    Liked by 3 people

  62. Farm Boy says:

    Karens Exposed: Names Of People Who Snitched On Their Neighbors For Breaking Covid Guidelines Leaks Online…


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  63. Farm Boy says:

    Apple’s Mobility Trends report shows that traffic in the US and other countries like Germany has pretty much doubled in the past three weeks. It had been down up to 72%

    And location data provider Foursquare says that gas and fast food visits are back to pre-COVID-19 levels in the American Midwest. Rural areas are following the same pattern.

    “Gas station traffic has returned to pre-COVID-19 levels in the Midwest, and in rural areas throughout the country,” Foursquare said yesterday in a blog post. “Foot traffic to quick service restaurants (QSRs) has risen over the past several weeks.”



  64. Cheque d'Out says:

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  65. Cheque d'Out says:

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  66. Cheque d'Out says:

    [Probably works well in the rain it does]
    [Star Wars day this is]

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  67. Apple (and Google and other tech) spies on you so the government doesn’t have to.

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  68. Fear is how you get people (especially women) to give up their rights and accept new laws that make people de facto peasants.

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  69. Animal abuse has really increased since this shit has gone down.


  70. “Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!”
    ― Patrick Henry

    Karen wants to speak to Patrick’s manager.

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  71. Currently on a Webex for project that requires input from floor staff SMEs (Subject Matter Experts). Do you know who the unit managers always send to be the SMEs? They send Karen. Why?

    1. It gets Karen off the floor for a while which makes both other staff and patients happier.

    2. Karen is going to bitch about not being sent since she’s such a genius, and will then do her best to sabotage any project where she didn’t get to put in her two cents.

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  72. “Because 95% of the fake news media and 100% of the tech control and censorship is NOT ENOUGH!”

    Yeah, that was gonna be my first question.

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  73. Liz says:

    If anyone is looking for a good bio to read, Mike just finished Mike Tyson’s book My time with Cus D’Amato.
    He said it was really good.

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  74. Stephanie says:

    May the 4th be with you Spawny Peeps… we’re having lots of fun over here having a Star Wars homeschool day lol

    [Shown this you should have]

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  75. Stephanie says:

    I wonder why the Karens think this haircut is good

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  76. SFC Ton says:

    Cracks me up when folks the military is some sort of bastion of ring wing ideology

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  77. Liz says:

    Kate is a good example of a Karen.
    And I’ll bet that stupid hairdo cost her 300 dollars, at least.

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  78. Stephanie says:

    Our Viking Boy just drew a, “tattoo,” on his arm and explained to us he’s keeping it, “forever.” It was with dry-erase marker 😀

    Oldest explained to him it will wash off eventually… like when he’s 18… because he has to take showers and stuff.

    Years ago… right after I had our Viking Boy and he was just a wee one, the oldest actually tried painting himself with chocolate !!!!!!! LOL It was soooo hilarious. He tried to wash it off and got scared though, thinking he’d stay like that forever, poor thing.

    Kids… wow!

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  79. Farm Boy says:

    President Trump pledged to release substantial evidence pointing to the origin of the coronavirus as his administration continues to the blame an infectious diseases laboratory in Wuhan, China.


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  80. Farm Boy says:

    Note that she doesn’t even question, as many Democrats do, whether Reade is telling the truth. She goes out of her way to put Reade’s account in the most favorable light. But even if she’s absolutely telling the truth, it isn’t sufficient.

    So my question is, what does Joe Biden have to do, how serious a crime does he have to commit, before Lisa Bloom decides that she shouldn’t support or vote for him?


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  81. Stephanie says:

    “Kate is a good example of a Karen.
    And I’ll bet that stupid hairdo cost her 300 dollars, at least”

    Did you ever watch that show, Liz? Kate was so horrible to her husband, we only saw it a few times by accident (like when working out together in the gym and seeing it on a TV we couldn’t control) and it was awful to watch. I remember we were just married around that time so it was weird to be like 21 and already seeing a marriage that I knew wouldn’t last 😦

    The scary thing is that we knew people from college who actually enjoyed watching the show! Here I was hoping he’d divorce her and get away, but there were women out there who thought it was the best thing to be cuddled up on the couch watching with their spouses/fiances.

    Very weird how people can see things so differently :/ . We always felt kind of awkward around marriages like that, which seemed to be everywhere… our marriage was so different, and it’s like the women shot daggers with their eyes!!

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  82. Liz says:

    Did you ever watch that show, Liz? Kate was so horrible to her husband, we only saw it a few times by accident

    No. But I know opening up one’s private business to the world and turning your home life into a reality freak show will not produce desirable results.

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  83. Speaking of hair-don’ts. Saturday, while I was trimming my beard back with the clippers prior to shaving, I just said eff it and put the 12mm guide on and gave myself a haircut. How did it look? Like somebody pranked me while I was passed out. Well, at least they didn’t glue my face to the floor. So on my second attempt I put the 9 mm guide on at cleaned it up some. Then it just looked like I did it with my eyes closed. 7 mm to the rescue!

    [Perhaps the hair look like this it does?]

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  84. Stephanie says:

    Just real quick… something my former Bible teacher just said about the work environment for people in his position (he was the BEST Bible teacher at our Christian school… had 8 years of studying Greek, lots of incredible arguments to link the Old and New Testament, had us writing essays that were above and beyond anything I ever understood before… Now he’s a Professor at different schools, and sometimes works for the charters/private schools around. Love this man) —

    “Interesting times. God is good! I have lost contact with a former teacher who was struggling to find a teaching position. He is published, highly regarded and has a PhD in Philosophy. He has also organized meetings and chaired discussions. I am very concerned for him. I know that God will take care of him. I am thankful to the Lord for the adjunct positions that I have since without them I would be struggling. But I am surprised at the near hostility that I have received even applying for positions. My friend (the last contact I had with him) said that he had the same kind of experience. He had applied to somewhere around 50 positions this time around. He had an interview in “corporate” that following Friday. Today I received a terse response to a job application that I sent in for a local charter school (classical model). I actually know the person (to a limited extent) and thought I was on good terms with him. But from my perspective, God is good and it is a good thing to not work in that situation. Teaching is a life of service in which I am most privileged to partake. But I know, just like the symphony auditions, one wins and the rest go home. Most of the applicants or those auditioning play the excerpts to near perfection; the differences between the players are often highly subjective and ornate. But if you love it, and you feel that God has given you the joy to keep fighting to serve regardless of the responses, then the consistent rejection is a part of the process and journey. Truthfully, I am more happy now teaching where I am than at any time in my career. I was surprised to hear from some of my students that many of their classes have not met virtually and most have broken down. We still meet on our scheduled times! Today, I had a student ask me about doing philosophy as a career. He is perhaps the strongest student I have ever had. The class is an introduction to philosophy and he has been talking (in the class discussions) about his readings in nominalism and micro vs macro physicalism. Very cool. Discussions like that are very rewarding. It is really cool to encourage these students.”

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  85. Hillary has admitted to committing felonies re: classified data, yet no prosecutions. It’s only when it becomes beneficial to the narrative that we’ll see the hive go after their own.

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  86. Only an ass would encourage a bright young man to go into Philosophy as a “career”.

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  87. Stephanie says:

    I can see how maybe there’s some cognitive dissonance… in this environment especially. But it’s sad when real, profound philosophy is regarded as trash in lieu of the PC stuff he’s constantly pressured to teach (and refuses to).

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  88. Stephanie says:

    After their divorce, she suddenly started trying to wear her hair more feminine (added extensions pretty quickly).

    Proof that to some degree, Karen’s understand this haircut is not great :/

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  89. Stephanie says:

    If he agreed to teach the PC stuff as, “Philosophy,” the revelation of wisdom and truth, it’d hilariously come across as something written by the Onion or Babylonbee 😀 !!!!

    His entire class structure could be great (philosophical) satire 😀 With the college set, this might not be a bad idea LOL

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  90. Cill says:

    KH if you can give us a pic of the back of your head I might be able to suggest which clippers would be best for your next remedial step. I think it will be a number 1 or just get out the strop and hone up the cutthroat mate.

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  91. “God, give me grace to accept with serenity
    the things that cannot be changed,
    Courage to change the things
    which should be changed,
    and the Wisdom to distinguish
    the one from the other.

    Living one day at a time,
    Enjoying one moment at a time,
    Accepting hardship as a pathway to peace,
    Taking, as Jesus did,
    This sinful world as it is,
    Not as I would have it,
    Trusting that You will make all things right,
    If I surrender to Your will,
    So that I may be reasonably happy in this life,
    And supremely happy with You forever in the next.


    Philosophy solved (for Christians anyway). Now go study something useful young man.

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  92. Ame says:

    Love that, Stephanie. Can you please email it to me?

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  93. “KH if you can give us a pic of the back of your head I might be able to suggest which clippers would be best for your next remedial step.”

    Unfortunately my phone doesn’t have a wide-angle lens.

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  94. Sumo says:

    Here’s something that’s been tickling the back of my brain (and the echoes are becoming increasingly distracting) – KH, are you a headhunter who lives in Kentucky, or do you hunt the heads of Kentuckians exclusively?If it’s the latter, that seems kind of racist. All heads matter, after all.

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  95. Cill says:

    KH has already admitted his lens is narrow, Sumo.

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  96. Sumo,

    Location – avocation.

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  97. She looks at least 10 years younger in the far right picture than in either of the other two.

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  98. Cill says:

    They are 3 different faces. Someone has pasted the same teeth on them, is all.

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  99. SFC Ton says:

    and has a PhD in Philosophy.

    Well that explains his struggle in finding a job. A 2 year degree in instrumentation and controls and folks would try to poach him

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  100. SFC Ton says:

    The Girls talked me into getting one of them semi shaved ww2 nazi haircuts…..

    I enjoy being evil but it looks like ass. Espeically since i haven’t trimmed my beard since I got out of the hospital.

    The Girls hate it so I kept it

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  101. SFC Ton says:

    PhD in bullshit…. why not? But a man should have a useful trade 1st.

    Christ was a carpenter and Paul was a tent maker after all.

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  102. h0neyc0mb says:

    If we ever go back to a barter society .. you’ll need a trade to survive.

    Some men (i.e. without true valued skills) have no value other than fertilizer at some point soon.

    Which come to think of it .. is a of some value (e.g. fertilizer).

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  103. I am googling that with a quickness.


  104. thedeti says:

    Lately, the idea of a Karen has been floating around the web. What is a Karen? The consensus seems to a a late 30s or 40s woman who likes to throw her weight around (in a semi-ladylike (or maybe SIW) manner). The classic Karen move is to be in a restaurant and demand to see the manager because of whatever reason. It is not so much about there being a problem, but more to show that she is somebody to be reckoned with, they she knows what she is doing, and furthermore, she has high standards. It doesn’t need to be a manager that a Karen tells off; it can be anybody.

    The quintessential Karen is white, middle class to upper middle class, has children, and works full time. Marital status is either married to a beta bux, or divorced. Wears the pants in the family, has pretty much subjugated her husband if she’s married, or is getting hefty child support from her ex husband. Volunteers with the PTA, might be a Junior Leaguer. Outspoken politically. Doesn’t matter her ideology; what matters is her being outspoken about it. There are plenty of Berniebot Karens and plenty of Trumpkin Karens. Wants to rule everything and run everything wherever she is. Karen knows best.

    Karen has to have all 4 of those first characteristics. Karen is always white, at least middle class, is a mom, and employed full time. Think 1990s/Clinton era “soccer mom”.

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  105. The show recently ended its two-year run after Kate and her hubby split. TLC had originally schemed to drop Jon and relaunch the show as “Kate Plus 8.” Those plans were nixed after Jon objected to his eight children appearing on television – claiming that he had an “epiphany” about the “exploitation.”

    But Kate tells Walters that Jon ended the show out of spite and “because he could.”

    “Unless you live in my house and see how everything that we have done with the show has been such a great experience, you can’t speak,” she said.

    Uh, Karen, I mean Kate, John was married to you, lived in the house with you and was on the show with you and the kids…

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  106. SFC Ton says:

    I have a cousin in law; one of them 2 year degrees and he makes a shit ton of money. 6 figures plus at 30-32

    That includes overtime but how many cats make 100k and only work 40 hours?

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  107. thedeti says:

    These women are nonKarens:

    –underclass or working class women

    –never married women

    –upper class women

    –women who have never had children

    –nonwhite women

    –women who are not part of a volunteer organization

    –women who are not employed outside the home

    Typical Karen employment:

    –high school teacher

    — marketing, public relations, or mass communications

    –local TV news anchor


    –any work in which she has “direct reports” , i.e. other individuals she supervises directly or who report directly to her

    –office administrator

    –“middle manager”

    –local elected official, i.e. court clerk, county clerk, assessor, treasurer, etc.

    –big box store manager or department store manager

    The Karen hallmark is petty, self-absorbed displays of power and influence. Karen’s kryptonite is anything that threatens her power.

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  108. Where does “Becky” fit in the hierarchy?


  109. Cill says:

    Sample Philosophy:

    God is that than which nothing greater can be conceived.
    The reality is greater than the understanding.
    Therefore God must exist in reality because if he existed merely in the understanding he wouldn’t be that than which nothing greater can be conceived.

    Anselm (1033-1109)

    This will get you a job in a monastery. You’ll learn to survive on a couple of loaves a week long as someone else bakes ’em.

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  110. thedeti says:

    Becky might or might not be a Karen. It’s probably safe to say most Karens are Beckies, but not all Beckies are Karens.

    I always thought Becky was in the female sociosexual hierarchy. In descending order of attractiveness: Stacy, Becky, Jane, Martha.

    Stacy: Prom queen, homecoming queen, cheerleader, popular girl, very physically attractive, very popular. Dates/fucks the hottest, most attractive men. Stacy is nice, usually, but not as nice as Jane. There are more Stacies than most people think. Stacy is around 25% of women.

    Becky: Basic bitch. More attractive than Jane, not as attractive as Stacy. She wants to be a Stacy, but is well aware that she is not because everyone, men and women, remind her that she’s not. Has one major physical flaw or shortcoming that prevents her from being a Stacy, and is more than a little salty about it. Dates the men Stacy rejected or cast off. If she gets fat she’ll be downgraded to Jane.

    Becky has the meanest, bitchiest disposition of the four, mostly because she can be and can get away with it. Has been pumped and dumped at least a couple of times, and is kind of used to it. Becky is the type of woman most described at manosphere sites. Most men showing up at the manosphere have had run ins with or been married to Beckies who dead bedroomed them or divorce raped them.

    Jane: The average woman. Most women are Jane. Has at least two glaring physical shortcomings that prevent her from making it to Becky status. A lot of Janes can become Beckies if they work on their physical appearance. But about half of Janes cannot and are resigned to that. Jane is the nicest and has the most agreeable disposition of the four. She is girlfriend material. She dates average guys and guys looking to get married soon. Contrary to popular belief, Jane does quite well attracting men, but cannot attract the most attractive men for anything other than casual sex. Jane is the most susceptible to pump and dumps.

    Martha: The unattractive woman. There are not very many Marthas, maybe 10 to 20% of all women. Has one or more of the following: Robust or masculine facial features, unattractive face, morbid obesity, a chronic debilitating medical condition like rheumatoid arthritis. Truly unfortunate women.

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  111. thedeti says:

    Martha might also have a disfigurement from a birth defect, a medical disorder, an injury, or some other traumatic event


  112. Farm Boy says:

    Judge Dismisses Whiny Whamen’s Soccer Team Lawsuit — They Had the Same Chance to Pick a Bonus-Based Payment Model, But Chose the Safe, Socialist Pay Structure


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  113. Farm Boy says:

    The report states that Brennan overruled agency analysts who wanted to include strong intelligence in the assessment to show that Russian President Vladimir Putin wanted Hillary Clinton to win the election, Fleitz says, citing conversations with House Intelligence Committee staffers. Brennan had also rejected analysts who wanted to strike weak intelligence from the report which suggested that Russia favored Trump, Fleitz said.

    “So Brennan actually slanted this analysis, choosing anti-Trump intelligence and excluding anti-Clinton intelligence,”


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  114. Farm Boy says:

    [Like my face better than Trump’s I do]


  115. Farm Boy says:

    I will let Yoda have the honors

    [A new post there is]



  116. I won’t disagree with your definitions, but I am gonna disagree on the numbers.

    “Stacy: Prom queen, homecoming queen, cheerleader, popular girl, very physically attractive, very popular. … There are more Stacies than most people think. Stacy is around 25% of women.”

    Not ’round these parts. Stacies make up 5% at best, and the even more rare Stacey’s Mom, around 0.5%.

    Only 1 girl is prom queen, and I think in many locales she has no real competition; she’s a Stacy’s Mom. Only 8-12 girls are varsity cheerleaders at your high school and maybe half or less are Stacy-level attractive. The rest are Beckies. Maybe a Jane or two at the bottom of the pyramid.

    I’ve met a lot of Jane-level attractive Karens in my day. I would say the percentage of Karens in both Becky and Jane cohorts is about the same.


  117. When’s the perp walk, or better yet, the hanging?


  118. Farm Boy says:

    A report that was presented by Chinese intelligence to top leaders in Beijing a month ago reportedly warned that the fallout from China’s scandalous handling of the coronavirus pandemic, which originated in China, was so bad that China needed to be prepared for an armed confrontation with the United States.


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  119. Farm Boy says:


    His observation is a simple one: that in outbreak after outbreak of this disease, a similar mathematical pattern is observable regardless of government interventions. After around a two week exponential growth of cases (and, subsequently, deaths) some kind of break kicks in, and growth starts slowing down. The curve quickly becomes “sub-exponential”.

    This may seem like a technical distinction, but its implications are profound. The ‘unmitigated’ scenarios modelled by (among others) Imperial College, and which tilted governments across the world into drastic action, relied on a presumption of continued exponential growth — that with a consistent R number of significantly above 1 and a consistent death rate, very quickly the majority of the population would be infected and huge numbers of deaths would be recorded. But Professor Levitt’s point is that that hasn’t actually happened anywhere, even in countries that have been relatively lax in their responses.



  120. Cill says:

    I’m guessing you know it already, Stacy’s Mom is from my neck of the woods.

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  121. h0neyc0mb says:

    Truth .. (re: I&C)

    That’s what I do now at a Nuclear Plant .. our (non-nuclear) parent company calls it E&I (electrical & instrumentation) with the in-fus-sis on instruments & controls.

    Our sister nuclear plant (the only AP1000 being built in the USofA has hired many without an ounce of experience (just the 2 year degree). So with just a degree .. they get fast tracked with an experienced journeyman to journeyman.

    Tons of contract work iv you want it. Tons of jobs demanding varying levels of experience. Lots of jobs just asking for a degree in electronics or I&C.

    But you are gonna work. And that scares some people.

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  122. SFC Ton says:

    I have a former soilder getting ready to do a Rockwell automation class…. only for vets but they promise 55k a year after 12 weeks of training

    My dumb ass wants to learn how to operate a tower crane

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  123. SFC Ton says:

    Working in a nuke plant would be fun just based on pissing off hippies

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  124. h0neyc0mb says:

    A lot of us.

    My base is over 100k without an ounce of OT. Most in my department make 150 to 175k a year with a little effort.

    Seems worth it for the younger guys.

    As for me .. I’ve taken pay cuts to avoid the higher taxes (with higher income) and reduce my exposure to more / longer work hours.

    I’m chill and coasting.


    Full disclosure ..

    I have a 4 year degree (in advance science and math) and it has been a waste. Even though it was free to me (i.e. Scholarship). It only took 2.5 years to complete.

    My two 2 year degree’s have been how I’ve thrived from the Us Navy till today (e.g. Electronics / communications and Nuclear Engineering Technologies).

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  125. Farm Boy says:

    BEIJING—The Chinese government has laid off its entire propaganda arm, cutting thousands of jobs at China Central Television and other state-run media outlets as the American media is already doing their job for them.


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  126. Farm Boy says:

    Within just two days of our story airing, the Nevada Health Response team confirmed what the people we spoke to suspected. That they got sick here in Las Vegas in December and January, and the illness was COVID-19.

    Many of those people attended conventions and thought those events were super-spreaders.



  127. Farm Boy says:

    Liz’ bored lockdown dog

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  128. Farm Boy says:

    PARIS — A French hospital which has retested old samples from pneumonia patients discovered that it treated a man who had COVID-19 as early as Dec. 27, nearly a month before the French government confirmed its first cases.



  129. h0neyc0mb says:

    Post #7 .. iirc .. look for my post.


  130. Farm Boy says:

    Fox News reports that the San Diego County city of Chula Vista is seeing a “sudden influx of critically ill patients from Mexico.”



  131. Can you copy or link?


  132. The Antipodes have supplied an outsized number of Stacy’s Moms over the last few decades. Any conjecture on why that might be?


  133. What do I do? Yeah, I power $1000 iPhone you use to tweet pro-Commie propaganda, you dipshit.


  134. He’s gonna have “second breakfast” any minute now.

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  135. h0neyc0mb says:

    Don’t recall where I “recall” those numbers from brother.

    I jus’ know .. Becky turns into Karen and Karen turns into Susan ..

    Each one is a more weaponized form / version of the previous version.

    Yes .. I’m old and don’t recall half th’ chit I used to .. unless it’s useless knowledge .. then I recall that chit rat away 😂

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  136. Yep, I’m amazed at the useless trivia I remember and how quickly I can find those files vs. stuff that might actually be useful. SAD!


  137. Larry G says:

    Bored shitless….

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  138. Ash Pariseau says:

    Smart women don’t go to restaurants where they have to demand to see the manager. They’ll go to good restaurants and they’ll be friends with the managers.


  139. h0neyc0mb says:

    You spin me right round .. right round ..


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  140. Larry G says:

    “That’s what I do now at a Nuclear Plant .. our (non-nuclear) parent company calls it E&I (electrical & instrumentation) with the in-fus-sis on instruments & controls.”

    man, in all the years I worked in public utilities, I can never remember any instrumentation repair guy being laid off or not busy…a good steady job for any young man to get into. Come to think of it, our HVAC, AC/Cooling, Pipefitters and Water Treatment guys were also always busy (and damn good money)

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  141. h0neyc0mb says:

    I know .. its bad .. but it’s the 80’s .. and thusly great stuff .. heh

    Liked by 1 person

  142. SFC Ton says:

    One of the many things I’ve learned since retiring is there are a shit ton of ways to make 100k a year

    Liked by 3 people

  143. I’ll see your terrible 80’s music video HC, and I’ll raise you this much:

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  144. Larry G says:

    I’m in. a really awful 1986 “hit”

    Liked by 2 people

  145. Sumo says:

    Oo! Oo! Oo! I wanna play the crappy 80’s music game!

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  146. I’m gonna say that Sumo wins, because none of those girls in white seem to be wearing bra and that cabin reminds me of The Boogens.

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  147. Larry G says:

    yup. braless harem beats the shit out of my fuller house

    Liked by 1 person

  148. thedeti says:

    I miss big hair

    Liked by 2 people

  149. h0neyc0mb says:

    Some of the 80’s aged well ..

    Some did not .. heh

    Liked by 4 people

  150. Larry G says:

    GAAAAAA!!!! same dude? FFS

    Liked by 1 person

  151. Cill says:

    I’ll lower you


    I have lowered the standard. Sorry but someone had to do it.

    [I have withdrawn my contribution to the competition. It was bloody awful -Cill]

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  152. Sumo says:

    I’m gonna say that Sumo wins

    Mighty Sumo is mighty.

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  153. h0neyc0mb says:

    Yep .. Axl Rose .. and Fat Axxxl Rose ..

    Welcome to the jungle .. live 1988 ..


  154. Larry G says:

    so now I know why Belgium was invented…makes perfect sense

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  155. RichardP says:

    Cill – the video you deleted – introduced me to someone I had never heard of. She’s really good, and has a good production team (I watched a few other of her videos). She would fit right in with this group (maybe she already has; I haven’t watched everything they have put out there).

    I’ll follow up with this one – only because the fella who co-wrote the song passed on April 1, 2020 – for those who don’t already know. From the comments section of the video:
    R.I.P. Adam Schlesinger, the bassist of Fountains of Wayne and one of the people who wrote “Stacy’s Mom” October 31, 1967 – April 1, 2020

    Might be Stacy’s mom grooving in the backgroung o this video.

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  156. Cill says:

    Darn good.


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