Well, it actually isn’t so much a race to the bottom; it is more like a shuffle to the bottom. Still, we are all heading to the bottom. Here is Deti,
Men: “Women can get married anytime they want. Just not to the top men or the best men. Women need to compromise a little here and there, and they can get most of what they want.”
Women: “No, you’re wrong, especially for less attractive women or Christian women. Women can’t get anything because men aren’t initiating, aren’t building, aren’t creating, and aren’t doing. Men aren’t attractive. Men are shit.”
And to a great extent, both are correct. It’s a race to the bottom. Women can’t get married to halfway decently attractive men, because the bar for what is “attractive” in a man has been pushed way up. Men are losing interest in trying to reach that bar because they can’t, because it’s too difficult, because the juice ain’t worth the squeeze, because even if they get there it’s divorce raped away from them 50% or more of the time, and 30% of the remaining time it’s a miserable slog and day to day conflict.
I have alluded to this problem in many posts, but Deti captures it very well. Once again, in my early twenties I had a serious decrease in motivation, as I started to see that my age cohort women were less than desirable, mainly due to their attitudes and behaviors. I am probably not the only one. The favorite whipping boy, the fellas playing video games, often with modest or no jobs, perhaps have some justification in their behaviors. For these guys, the blame and animosity is seemingly endless. But does anybody ask them for their perspective? Probably not, for deep down they don’t want to hear what they might say. But, to be honest, many of these fellas probably can’t articulate what their grievance might be, as the discussion of women and their state are not allowed to enter their Overton Window.
So on it goes. Down and down. Rational consideration of the problem is forbidden.
Exit question — why are those that claim to be the most rational and scientific often are anything but?
Addendum by Okra and Deti:
“Even the majority of churches no longer encourage women to marry young; rather they encourage them to go to college and pursue a career. This comes from their parents, their teachers, their peers, and even their pastors. But while the average age of first marriage has risen to 27, the average age of losing her virginity is still in the late teens. Which means you have a cohort of young women who have spent close to a decade having sex with a number of different partners, who are entirely focused on their career advancement, who have been taught to distrust and disdain men as a sex, who are increasingly addicted to various medications, who have rising levels of obesity and clinical depression, who have been taking artificial hormone treatments for years, suddenly wondering why they have no good marriage prospects as they approach 30.”
Yes, Okra. Thank you.
Even now, we have women complaining that they were “lied to”. That they followed this “life script” because
everyone told them they should do these things.
It is OK, even beneficial, for them to have lots of hot fun sexy sex with lots of different hot fun sexy men.
It is OK to put off marriage and motherhood for college and career.
It is OK to never ever settle, never ever compromise, hold out for absolutely 100% of everything you want.
You can wear anything you want, anytime you want, anywhere you want. Unattractive men are REQUIRED to ignore you and leave you alone, while attractive men are REQUIRED to pay attention to you.
You can have it all. You are special. You can do, be, and say anything you want, anytime you want, anywhere you want, and it is society’s job to make it so you can do, be and say those things.
Ten, 20, 30 years from now, I so badly want to be there for the constant bleating and complaining from women:
“We wuz LIED TO!! Where’s my Good Man when I need him! People told me I could have my career, my 2.1 designer kids, and my marriage to my Hunky Millionaire Handyman who makes a billion dollars a year but “works” 5 hours a week! WHERE ARE THOSE THINGS!!!! I NEED THEM!! THEY WUZ PROMISED TO ME!!!!”
The rude awakening will be epic.
Because I will just sit back and say:
What the fuck is wrong with you girls? Couldn’t you SEE that women who followed your script were getting divorced, marrying men they weren’t attracted to, and driving themselves into depression and addiction because of it? Couldn’t you SEE that women who followed your script were miserable in their jobs? Couldn’t you SEE that women who weren’t married were grindingly unhappy having to support themselves and then rely on men to make up the difference?
We tried to tell you. We tried to show you. We did all we could, but you wouldn’t listen to us and you wouldn’t pay attention to what was going on all around you.
The funny thing is that the people who will be making those complaints are the same women who are today berating men and calling them morons and liars:
“What the fuck is wrong with you guys! No one EVER told you that being nice was sexually attractive!! That’s bullshit! You’re just lying about that. No one ever said “just be nice, just be yourself, and girls will love you”!! You’re lying about that.
“What is it with you guys? Are you blind, autistic, or just stupid? Couldn’t you SEE who was getting the hot girls? Couldn’t you see it was the jocks, the macho shitheads, the assholes, and the douches? Couldn’t you see those were the guys who were getting laid? Couldn’t you see what worked and what didn’t? And then when you failed, why did you keep doing that? What, because some dumb ADULT told you to? Don’t you know you’re supposed to tell you parents, teachers, and all other adults in your life to go fuck themselves when they instruct you?
“Why did you listen to adults? Why did you do what they told and showed you? What, because they supposedly “knew better” than you? What, because you trusted them? Well, that was stupid. Don’t you know you’re not supposed to listen to adults, and especially not to women? Don’t you know you’re supposed to just come out of mommy’s womb just knowing this stuff? Don’t you know you’re supposed to “just get it”? Don’t you know you’re supposed to deliberately ignore everything everyone tells you, figure it all out on your own, with no frame of reference, no reference points, no prior experience, and no instruction whatsoever? Don’t you know that at age 11 or 12, you’re supposed to be able to differentiate good advice from bad, with NO HELP AT ALL from ANYONE??
“Jeez, what is WRONG with you guys??”
And I’ll just chuckle when I give girls the same spiel.