Cognitive Dissonance

I am not a licensed psychologist, nor do I play one on TV. but that isn’t going to stop me. Let us first consider feminism. It has lots of contradictions that just go against what makes sense in a rational world.  Furthermore, it has truths that push hard against what women really want, stuff that comes from deep inside. Feminism Inc. really drive their propaganda home with a never relenting campaign.  In the end, women behave as they are supposed to, leading to less than optimal situations for themselves and everybody around them.

So the above is due to just their prescribed behavior.  Is there more?  Perhaps there is.  In order to maintain their feminist positions in their mind, they have to work hard against the forces of rationality and some of their innate desires.  This effort takes its toll.  It can lad to frustration, and probably lots of other things that one might classify as nutty behaviors.  This is cognitive dissonance at work.

So not only do we have the poor results from following the feminist rules, we have possible nutty behavior on top of it.  This just plain isn’t good.

Fast-forward to today and the struggle against the Chinese Virus.  Perhaps many of those who are panicking, acting nutty, are those who have had lots of practice in implementing cognitive dissonance.  This means you, feminists.  I am thinking that the sturdy farmwife of old, like my grandmother who ran a household in the middle of nowhere with not electricity or running water, would not be handling things much better than many today.  In short, cognitive dissonance was not a luxury that they could afford.

Exit question — What to do about the people today going nuts?

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155 comments on “Cognitive Dissonance
  1. horsemanbombadil says:

    Exit question — What to do about the people today going nuts?

    Self solving question.
    Survive and grow strong.
    Or not.

    Everyone is now left to their own abilities, preparations, skills.
    The old “I don’t care Who you are, What can you DO?, what do you have useful to Trade.”

    The farmer and wife of old?
    Shut down and stay in for three months just cooking, minor repairs, resting up for the future, carefully managing the supplies built up last season.

    Yeah its called mid winter, happens every year, whats the big deal?

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  2. horsemanbombadil says:

    “I am thinking that the sturdy farmwife of old, like my grandmother who ran a household in the middle of nowhere with not electricity or running water, WOULD BE handling things much better than many today.”


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  3. horsemanbombadil says:

    Not sure if this is sad that for many they need VR right now or happy that men invented VR.

    But see what little it takes for a happy place for a man.
    (Female happy place is an oxymoron)

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  4. Stephanie says:

    “Just asked him right now and he said “You make good food and a good variety of food… It’s really good food, and you purposely go looking for recipes that would be good.”

    LOL Cognitive dissoance is not realizing your husband talks like Donald Trump!!!

    And he just spanked me for that… it’s worth it.

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  5. RichardP says:

    @horseman said: (Female happy place is an oxymoron)

    @Stephanie said: he just spanked me for that… it’s worth it.

    Female happy place?

    I know some females whose happy place is basking in the happiness of their man. I’m thinking they would be quite happy sitting on the log beside Kevin James in that video, if he were their man and if that was his happy place.

    I’ve heard it said that females respond. If that is true, then their “happy place” would come into existance in response to being with their man in his happy place (noting that said man need not necessarily be their husband – which is a problem unto itself).

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  6. Referencing “women” and “cognitive” in the same paragraph without the word “disability” also appearing seems suspect.

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  7. horsemanbombadil says:

    There are just so many jokes here in this one.
    I mean really, who dresses like that as a “serious golfer.”

    So enjoy (especiaslly around 2 minutes in) and let the jokes begin.
    She actually started it. Her favorite tip and drill? Seriously?


  8. horsemanbombadil says:

    Why does this stuff come up in my Youtube suggestions?

    Hmmm this guy watches Terrence Pop, Sandman, Replicant Phish, Better Bachelor, Patriot Nurse…

    What could he possibly like?

    Got it….dumb thots attention whoring!!!


  9. Cheque d'Out says:

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  10. SFC Ton says:

    I am not a licensed psychologist, nor do I play one on TV. but……..

    That’s ok. I’m pretty sure you are iiver qualified for the job

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  11. SFC Ton says:

    The female happy place is on my dick

    No fatties allowed


  12. Cheque d'Out says:

    We now have levitating bins in my country.

    or it’s a damp patch on the pavement/footpath

    [A padawan in training it would be]

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  13. Liz says:

    Exit question — What to do about the people today going nuts?

    When you find out the answer to this…could you please use it on me? 😆

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  14. Beaver looks chill for now, but it’d better be gnawing an escape hatch someone out of sight as it looks like someone’s med have run out.

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  15. She is not going to age well. And it’s already started.


  16. Liz says:

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  17. BuenaVista says:

    People aren’t watching the same movie: The dissonance is so bad now because words and images lack consensus meaning.

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  18. Farm Boy says:

    SUNY-Geneseo was given access to a student’s account that mocked the school. The school gained access to the account due to a “mistake” by Twitter. The college then deleted the tweets it found unflattering


  19. Farm Boy says:

    “In just ten days, we discovered that neither the tampon issue, nor the participation of transsexuals in the Olympic Games, nor the climate emergency were real problems, nor emergencies, nor anything of the sort. They were just fictitious problems, the pastimes of a generation that hadn’t known tragedy.”

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  20. Farm Boy says:

    CNN’s Jim Acosta Blasted For ‘Mansplaining’ After Interrupting Dr. Birx To Attack Trump

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  21. Farm Boy says:

    Consider this. If a young man of average SMV falls in love with a girl, then that is usually seen as an embarrassing inconvenience. But if a girl gets her panties soaked for a man, then we invariably see what Scott described in a recent comment: $h!ts and giggles from friends setting them up to be alone, followed by playful touching, then sneaking off, kissing underneath the bleachers, and so on.


  22. Farm Boy says:

    The World Health Organization (WHO) is failing. Not only are they failing in their primary responsibility to promote public health, but their inexplicable political gamesmanship is destroying their credibility.

    And if no one believes what’s coming out of their headquarters in Geneva, what good are they?

    Most noticeabe has been their tilt toward China, running international interference for Chinese coverups and bungling. They’ve already been caught in several embarrassing lies and, at times, appear more concerned with politically correct attitudes than they do dealing with the pandemic.

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  23. Liz says:


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  24. Farm Boy says:

    Greta Thunberg took a swipe at the pet project of fellow media darling Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, telling Rolling Stone in a recent interview that the Green New Deal would not do nearly enough to avert an impending “climate crisis.”

    [Just jealous she is, because bigger boobs AOC has]


  25. Cheque d'Out says:

    Ton approved?


  26. RichardP says:

    @Liz: I presume you saw my response to you on the previous thread. That, and this, are intended to be blunt, but friendly, responses.

    The CDC Stages of masking grief that you posted would disappear immediately if all terms were defined first.

    Let us assume one is well-informed in biology, chemistry, and physics:

    – What words would one use to discuss how rainbows are actually formed when talking to others who are also well-informed in biology, chemistry, and physics? (rhetorical)

    – Would one use those same words to discuss how rainbows are formed with folks who are not at all informed in biology, chemistry, and physics? (rhetorical)

    1. Life is messy. We fumble and bumble toward solutions. Rarely, if ever, do we find solutions without first making mistakes in our efforts.

    2. Prior crises in the United States (and the world) have never occured when it was possible to have so much granular scrutiny of the processes our leaders and scientists engage in today to find solutions. To accuse current political and scientific efforts of being unprecedented in their bumblingness is to presume that we ever knew all of what actually went on in fashioning solutions to the dark ages, to the Spanish Flu, to WWI, etc. We don’t know. To presume those efforts were not bumbling also is to overlook the reality of the human condition. For those who will admit to it, this we know. We are imperfect humans living in an imperfect and finite world. Therefore, we have only ever been able to have mistake-ridden efforts to find imperfect solutions. This has always been the human condition. We have just never been exposed to it as well as we are being exposed to it now – due to advances in communication. It didn’t exist before, because we couldn’t see it. It suddenly exists now, but only because we can see it. (A version of the “if I can’t see it, it doesn’t exist” approach to life.)

    3. The politicians and the scientists are talking to multiple audiences. As demonstrated with the “rainbow” example above, they cannot use just one set of words to talk to everybody. They must consider their audience when choosing which words to use. The news media further confounds all of this by not explaining this reality to their audience and by inserting their language whenever they consider it appropriate.

    4.We are, and have been, experiencing exactly what it was like moments after God shut down the Tower of Babel by confusing the tongues of those building it (making different groups of people speak different languages so they could not cooperate in their efforts to build the tower). Regardless of whether Bable is a true story, or just a myth meant to convey a truth about the human condition, it is spot on. And the “CDC Stages of masking grief” demonstrates that we are still smack in the middle of that “confusing the tongues” meme today. Which is to say, that the “CDC” meme is meant to further confuse, rather than enlighten. It is distracting folks attention from the truth of Point 3 above, rather than directing their attention to the truth of Point 3. The media does the same thing when they pretend that the terms “gender” and “sex” both refer to the same thing, and so use the terms interchangeably. Tower of Bable levels of inability to communicate with each other ensue. A situation created intentionally by the media, just as was the situation at the Tower of Bable created intentionally by God.

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  27. Farm Boy says:

    Given that the adolescent libido peaks long before emotional maturity is achieved, most young people are like a child playing with a loaded weapon. All the pressures, all the responsibilities, and they don’t know what they’re doing.


  28. Farm Boy says:

    “This is not a deadly virus. Even though everyone is saying that, that’s because they aren’t able to get a handle on it.”

    My contact friend went on to point out, “Yes, I feel very blessed to be living here in South Korea during this time. There are several factors, I think, that have made South Korea so successful in how they’ve handled it. They started screening for fevers, wearing masks, putting out hand sanitizer everywhere, and just trying to make the public aware of what was happening. They were also very proactive, in testing and separating anyone who tested positive for the virus, whether they were showing symptoms or not. Because as you are correct, the majority of the cases are quite mild. It’s just very contagious. So South Korea ended up turning some factory warehouses and training areas into large quarantine centers for anyone who had mild symptoms or no symptoms, but still tested positive for the virus. That saved our hospitals only for the small percentage that were actually seriously sick.”

    Those who tested negative for the virus went back to school and work. Those who tested positive for the virus with little or mild symptoms were quarantined. This allowed them to devote their energies to those who succumbed to the virus with much more serious conditions at hospitals with far less chaos.

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  29. SFC Ton says:

    People aren’t watching the same movie: The dissonance is so bad now because words and images lack consensus meaning

    Not sure what all them fancy words mean but dems and repubs don’t live in the same country. Maybe it’s worth worrying about in skype york

    We’re not all that worried about it here in rural and coastal NC. Closed down to terrorist but y’all need to understand you have quick med offices bigger then our hospital and we’re on the tail in of the supply chain but the day to day folks are mostly extra chill

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  30. SFC Ton says:

    Ton approved? No fucking idea. It’s 30 mins long and I have the adhd

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  31. SFC Ton says:

    Given that the adolescent libido peaks long before emotional maturity is achieved, most young people are like a child playing with a loaded weapon. All the pressures, all the responsibilities, and they don’t know what they’re doing


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  32. Liz says:

    Just reading the link above about the RO.
    It isn’t exactly correct. Schools are not in session in the ROK. They’ve been out longer than ours have.

    Per the article above, they announced the restart of classes April 9th, but that was online only.

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  33. Liz says:

    Just reading the link above about the ROK.
    It isn’t exactly correct. Schools are not in session in the ROK. They’ve been out longer than ours have.

    Per the article above, they announced the restart of classes April 9th, but that was online only.


  34. Liz says:

    Richard we’re going to have to disagree on this.
    I do not see the concept of the mask as being some terribly difficult communication problem. It’s pretty basic.


  35. Liz says:

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  36. BuenaVista says:

    In my home district, which I define as my county and four neighboring counties, there are today 26 cases, no hospitalizations, no deaths. That’s about one (non-serious) infection per 150 square miles. Karen and Becky are screaming at the governor 24×7 for not criminalizing leaving your house. Guess (I’ll wait) which political party Karen and Becky and Biff and Mustafa belong to?

    One of the paradoxes of public health is that voluntary compliance is more effective than policed compliance. But the neurotics CAN’T WAIT to impose martial law and house arrest.

    There are three counties in this state with cases in the low hundreds. Two were infected (it appears since the age distribution skews young) by Spring Breakers, and the other is stacking corpses out of a single nursing home.

    I have two children who live in Manhattan so I’m aware of the flip side. I have a friend who is a surgeon in a regional hospital where they have already game-planning the ventilator rationing. I have a college buddy who is on a ventilator in Manhattan and his brotheer is a trauma surgeon in a country where hospital staff steal and resell PPEs. I have a friend who is in Mumbai; that’s a hygienic dreamscape. My son#1 is in Seattle (My daughter is sheltering in a county that will have 15,000 cases by tomorrow. The county she’s in has a grand total of 8 ICU beds.) I think Birx is trying to do county-level analysis but the national directives so far are one-size fits all.

    I’ll last about three days if I get this into my lungs, so I walk around with a pair of vinyl gloves and a bottle of spray disinfectant if I go into the grocery or drug store. But the virtue of a demographically healthy region is you don’t have a bunch of assholes from the third world (or dipshit college kids who still went on Spring Break) ruining the self-care of 90% of the population. There’s just a social consensus to be cool.

    But only five states have refused to impose a lockdown so I’ll be headed down to the store now to load up on ribeyes, bacon, cheese and wine, because I expect we’ll follow the herd into solitary shortly.

    My best to all. BV SWITCHING.

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  37. h0neyc0mb says:

    Liz playin tenacious mouser today (re mask truther).

    [Cats want their world clean they do]

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  38. Farm Boy says:

    But given all the traffic between China and Australia, and the fact that Australia didn’t cut off travel to China until February 1 (and even then initially had many loopholes), one can be hopeful that the relatively mild outbreak of Covid-19 in their Summer reflects a strong seasonal component to the virus


  39. Farm Boy says:

    Gratuitous images

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  40. Ame says:

    Really good to see you BV; you’ve been missed!


  41. BuenaVista says:

    FB, I read that NYC area hospitals also discharged more patients than were admitted yesterday. I didn’t verify that though.


    I think Taleb, in that abstract I posted in January, correctly called the virus dynamics; it is following a fat-tail distribution model, not the bell curve “on average” Gaussian bullshit that afflicts pundits, near and far. Taleb correctly called, as well, the role of connectivity in this virus’ social graph. In fact in one of his books a dozen years ago he predicted the increased incidences of global plagues, owing to nearly frictionless travel between formerly isolated geographies.

    If indeed we are getting ahead of this thing it has to represent conscientious self-isolating and (my strong suspicion) that we’re shoveling fishtank cleaner (joke) into anyone with a temperature and a co-morbidity — and the cocktail is working in 3-6 days. Unless you have eaten yourself into Type 2 Diabetes and nosh on Hot Pockets and pizza every night. Or unless you have scarred lungs like me (and someone else here), or are old and haven’t walked up a flight of stairs in 10 years, etc.

    It will be fascinating if we learn in a year or two that at-risk, hyper-paranoid people like me were swimming, unknowingly, in a sea of asymptomatic carriers. It will also be good because so much of the population will have achieved so-called herd immunity. Then the ChiComs will have to engineer another bioweapon with which to attack the world.

    For serious students of the hydroxychloroquine/Azithmomycin/Zinc protocol, the researcher who stumbled into it is Didier Roualt, Nice FR. Apologies if you folks already read his papers while I was out of the loop.

    I just walked home with 70 pounds of groceries on my back. Well, groceries, plus I gave Miss Smirnoff a lift, we have plans for the night, never mind. It’s a great, great feeling to have a pantry and so much food I really should start a spreadsheet. There’s great disruption right now in the box beef and swinging beef supply chain, but our supply and prices seem stable. Americans tend to obliterate any problem once people get their eyes focused on the objective. I think Americans actually enjoy a nasty, mofo-ing problem requiring a little suffering. I hope we’re there. Best to all.

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  42. BuenaVista says:

    We’re a pretty soft country until shit gets real. Stoic philosopher Seneca summarized the problem:

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  43. BuenaVista says:

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  44. BuenaVista says:

    The Ton is always snorting at my intellectual pretensions and calling me an unjustified smarty-pants. This checks out. (“Legit.” — Verified source, SFCTon.)

    I just think it’s totes great that The Ton and noted WWII French Resistance spy, and Jewish public intellectual, Simone Weil, are absolutely on the same page. Correct: The Ton is a double agent. All that stuff about whiskey and pussy and 8,273 lb. max squats is just so much posturing. He reads Weil in the original like I read the box scores. (Except there aren’t any box scores.)

    Everybody be well and as our personal Spawny medical adviser notes, don’t scrub your hands so hard you break the skin. If you do that you might die. In three days. Carousel of life, the box car is to your left, nothing bad will happen, promise, let’s sing a song, shall we?

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  45. BuenaVista says:

    Ooops. Simone Weil:

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  46. Farm Boy says:

    Trump suggests Biden cognitive decline: “He didn’t write that. That was done by a Democrat operative. He doesn’t write. He’s probably not even watching right now and if is, he doesn’t understand what he’s watching.”

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  47. Farm Boy says:

    A tidy bear


  48. Cheque d'Out says:

    Personal Protection Equipment
    This is in the form of an ambulance chasing lawyer advert

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  49. Cheque d'Out says:

    Good old Special Needs Partei, always looking after itself first.

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  50. Cheque d'Out says:

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  51. Cheque d'Out says:

    [The sheep practicing social distancing they are not]

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  52. Cheque d'Out says:


  53. Sharkly says:

    Her dress reminds me of freshly fallen snow on a ski slope glinting in the morning sun.
    I see a fast basin followed by a shallow rise and then a couple perfect moguls! Makes me want to go skiing. … or something.

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  54. Sharkly says:

    The Ton is a double agent. All that stuff about whiskey and pussy and 8,273 lb. max squats is just so much posturing.

    For a second I felt a little embarrassed about my own weightlifting max being slightly less, until I realized you limp wristed pussies were talking about those easy two legged squats again.

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  55. Cheque d'Out says:

    Let’s have a look at the new laba leader’s past, shall we?

    [Gone with Emily they should]

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  56. Sharkly says:

    For serious students of the Hydroxychloroquine/Azithromycin/Zinc protocol, the researcher who stumbled into it is Didier Roualt, Nice FR. Apologies if you folks already read his papers while I was out of the loop.

    I thought “The Donald” came up with that cure? LOL Our media sucks!

    Anyhow, yes, I was peddling it earlier in an easily obtainable form:

    Tonic water, which you can still buy at the grocery stores. contains quinine.(Chloroquine and Hydroxychloroquine are just adulterated forms able to be patented. The medical cabal will always try to take a shit on the natural product, but it still works.)
    Any vet supply place can still sell you a broad spectrum antibiotic including Azithromycin.
    And although I didn’t specifically mention the zinc in my previous comment, I was still able to by myself some zinc lozenges at Walmart last weekend.

    $30 for antibiotics, $10 for zinc pills, $10 for plenty of tonic water, for a combined total of $50 I have spared y’alls lives!

    Soon I’ll let y’all in on my plan to solve world hunger. Hint: don’t block or delete your internet cookies, later we’ll be forwarding them to Africa.


  57. Sharkly says:

    Oh wait! The goddess worshiping Russian Orthodox church has got a cure too.

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  58. Sharkly says:

    I wish I were making this up, but the Russian Orthodox just emailed me that.

    Stare hard at the picture of the icon(idol) I provided above, if you feel sick! /S


  59. Cheque d'Out says:

    Some people have the opinion that the labour party is full of morons

    [Ruh-Roh. Turning into a dog she is]

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  60. Cheque d'Out says:

    That’s a brave man

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  61. Sharkly says:

    During the work week, I am not allowed to discriminate based upon a person’s race, color, religion, sex (including gender identity, sexual orientation, and pregnancy), national origin, age (40 or older), disability or genetic information.

    However, this is the weekend, and those retarded Rooski goddess worshipers should know better than to send me such ridiculously insane propaganda.

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  62. Cheque d'Out says:

    If you want to visit him in hospital, his name is Claude Balls.

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  63. Liz says:

    If anyone is interested in drinking tonic water as a preventative, the therapeutic dose (at least, for malaria) is:
    67 litres per day.

    The Long Answer, for those interested, is according to Meshnick’s chapter in “Malaria: Parasite Biology, Pathogenesis and Protection (1998, ed Sherman) that modern tonic water contains 15mg/L quinine, and so has little antimalarial effect. However, Meshnick also mentions that drinking a glass of a decoction of Cinchona bark (made by soaking the bark in brandy or gin for 5 or 6 days) two or three times a day would have provided at least 1-2g quinine per day. Meshnick says that this would have protected against malaria.Therefore, consuming 67 litres of tonic water would provide 1g quinine.

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  64. Got a Grace Kelly look to her, though that’s probably the whole point. Anyway, it’s appreciated.

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  65. @Liz

    If anyone is interested in drinking tonic water as a preventative, the therapeutic dose (at least, for malaria) is:
    67 litres per day.

    Yes, this is what’s important. Therapeutic dose. Bio-availability. Things like that.

    Science is real, when done correctly, and only when done correctly. Otherwise it’s voodoo. Evil spirits. Magic rocks.

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  66. Liz says:

    Why, FFS?

    I guess ol’ Claude wanted to live up to his name. 😆

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  67. “Science is real, when done correctly, and only when done correctly. Otherwise it’s voodoo. Evil spirits. Magic rocks.”

    Oops, I left out “climate change”.


    Apparently, “oops” is a word, but “ooops” isn’t.

    Why just go for 2 when you can have all three?


  68. Liz says:

    I might start a blog entitled “The billions of ways China sucks at all things”

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  69. BuenaVista says:

    1. I was all set to start drinking 67 liters of tonic water/day, and eating large animal veterinarian meds, but then I realized I need approximately 800 limes and 40 liters of gin to make it worthwhile. The Liz: bringing Science! to troubled times. (Also, that’s doing a lozza glasses, and I hate washing dishes.)

    2. No one masks-up, here. I have decided to visit the grocery during the “old and damaged human hour” tomorrow morning with a bandanna around my nose and mouth and conspicuous vinyl gloves. (I qualify under the “old and damaged” rule but I’ve been too vain to exploit the privilege.) Something tells me I’ll be invited to the front of the line and be able to buy some darn yeast for the first time since March 2.

    3. The great thing about ketosis is when you do have a cheat day, a small bag of pretzels (I prefer Dot’s, from North Dakota; they have lots of garlic) is like when you get a couple of xylocaine shots and a hit of Dilaudid simultaneously. Do not do this while driving or operating heavy equipment.

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  70. I ate some mac and cheese yesterday and had to lie down for a couple of hours. I’m not super compliant with keto, but that macaroni hit me hard.

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  71. BuenaVista says:

    Many thanks to FB for introducing this guy, who appears to be an independent and fully operational human: More non-scary numbers from Florida:

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  72. Sharkly says:

    Thanks for the info. However, like with so many doctors, the travel doctor is claiming you can’t help yourself, only a doctor can help you. I did a little looking into it and he is exaggerating on both ends. the therapeutic dose of Quinine to cure malaria is not 1-2 Grams like that doctor says, it is 325 Mg – 1 Gram. Nor is 15 Mg the average amount of quinine in tonic water. The following source lists it as 83 Mg.
    and it claims 3 cups of tonic water delivers a therapeutic dose for leg cramps.

    However Wu-Flu is neither a parasite nor a cramp. Lower doses of quinine should still benefit.
    Quinine & chloroqine act as an ionophore to get zinc across cell membranes into the cells where COVID replication occurs. If you can get zinc into these cells, it will inhibit replication of coronavirus. Increased intracellular Zinc concentrations inhibit RNA-dependent RNA polymerases and other proteins essential for the completion of different phases of the virus life cycle. The less available physiological zinc, the higher the dose of ionophore required to have a significant effect. More available zinc means lower doses of ionophore should suffice. Plasma levels of zinc are highest 2-4 hours after dosing as zinc is absorbed in the jejunum. This is the prime time to dose your ionophore. Quercetin also acts as a zinc ionophore, if you prefer it to tonic water, and can buy some.

    The serum Zn concentration is correlated inversely with age (r=-0.11, p=0.018). Note, the age-dependent deficiency is not necessarily dietary dependent but is rather an absorption issue.
    Zn-deficiency and anemia are gender related and is present in 17.3% of men and in 13.5% of women.

    In conclusion, we would like to turn the attention towards the 1+ billion people worldwide, who are Zn-deficient and therefore at risk with respect to COVID-19 associated complications. The three major causes of Zn- deficiency are 1.) dietary – vegeratians at highest risk; 2.) poor absorption – elderly or suffering from acrodermatitis enteropathica; 3.) chronic conditions: alcohol addiction, cancer, diabetes, ect. The … improvement in the zinc dietary intake and zinc cellular absorption (via Zn2+ ionophores for the elderly) can lay the foundation for a doable and strong SARS-CoV-2 viral counter-measure and greatly reduce COVID-19 associated C.F.R., therefore reduce the need for draconian social distancing which vastly damages world economy.

    Sorry for cutting and pasting most of that.

    My own conclusion, is that since I’m a 50 year old male I’ll take my zinc and drink my tonic water, along with my many other immune boosters and antivirals, and most likely I’ll survive to argue with all the doctors another day. LOL

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  73. Cheque d'Out says:

    We Veterans of the WuFlu Campaign deserve to mark our service in the frontlines


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  74. Cheque d'Out says:

    Happy to take zinc along with any gin and tonic that falls into my glass. In these desperate times I might even drink more gin and tonic, just to be sure. Sure of being safer or surer of having drunk enough gin? Not fussy. Preferably both. *hic*

    Sun well over the yard arm here, cheers

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  75. Liz says:

    Fair enough, Sharkly.
    I don’t think tonic water will hurt (we’ll have to disagree on whether it helps). And I also take zinc.

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  76. Farm Boy says:

    If you attend a two-hour event with dozens of other people, some of whom are infected — or if you’re on a two-hour commercial airline flight, or riding New York City’s subways on a daily basis — then your initial exposure is likely to be a high viral load. On the other hand, a brief encounter with an infected convenience-store clerk will expose you to a lower viral load, and if you do become infected, your case will probably be milder. That’s not an “expert” opinion, just a common-sense interpretation of what some experts are saying, and one which would seem to fit the available data

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  77. Farm Boy says:

    Amid a barrage of research on finding treatment for new coronavirus, Australian scientists have found that a common anti-parasitic drug killed SARS-CoV-2 virus, growing in cell culture, within 48 hours in lab settings. Ivermectin is an FDA-approved anti-parasitic drug that has also been shown to be effective in vitro against a broad range of viruses including HIV, dengue, influenza and Zika virus

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  78. Farm Boy says:

    there is one government that has primary responsibility for what it has done and what it has failed to do, and that is the CCP [Chinese Communist Party] regime in Beijing. Let me be clear — it is the CCP that has been responsible, not the people of China… Lies and propaganda have put millions of lives around the world in danger… In recent years, we have seen an intense crackdown on freedom of expression in China. Lawyers, bloggers, dissidents and civil society activists have been rounded up and have disappeared.”

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  79. @Liz

    I might start a blog entitled “The billions of ways China sucks at all things”

    I like how Mark Steyn points out how TPTB in the West have created the only workable form of Communism in China by shipping all our manufacturing over there.

    So, yes, China does suck, but China’s suck has been put on steroids by certain parties in the Occident.

    I find that to be a much more interesting area of inquiry.

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  80. Farm Boy says:

    Joe Biden bizarrely believes that President Donald Trump was holding-up virus relief checks to “put his signature on a physical check.”

    “No American should have to wait a single minute so Donald Trump can put his signature on a physical check,” said Biden

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  81. Cheque d'Out says:

    Nigel avin’ a giraffe


  82. Cheque d'Out says:

    My Glorious Cock is within 6′ of me right now. I was a bit worried as I haven’t heard him for a while.

    [Social distancing you are not]

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  83. Wishing I had stocked gin and tonic now, just saying… maybe it works maybe not but I wish I could participate in the online clinical trial happening here! Lol. Cheers!

    I am having my own luck with a clinical trials of one and wanted to share. My youngest daughter then I got sick around March 9. W salt water gargling, saline sinus rinses (neti pot), Zinc, vitamin C, and lots of raw honey, garlic, tumeric etc. we powered out of it. But for me a low level lingering remained, along with a weird short winded/tight lung thing if I pushed myself at all, but no coughing or otherwise signs of pneumonia. This past week it seemed to building so I found an article on high dose vitamin c that included a detailed diy regimen. I ordered the vitamin C powder and it arrived two days ago, just in time as I was feeling as bad as when I first got sick. Yesterday I started the 2 g every two hours as described in the article and today I feel better than before I was sick! Yep! I will continue the every two hours today and see how things go.

    Here’s the link to the article:

    Here’s the link to the vitamin C powder I ordered, the recommended one was out of stock. It’s tart when mixed as directed but not bad tasting. I’d add honey for kids, and of course use less according to age/size. (Get ye some, vitamin C is selling out everywhere fast.)

    Also, for the ladies, you can mic this powder 3 parts coconut oil 1 part powder and you have Anti-aging, antioxidant vitamin c face cream, retails for over $100 a pop! Yep! Mix it fresh for each use, as the vitamin c power destabilizes wi 24 hours once mixed.

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  84. Just posted a comment but it had two links so it may be in quarantine 😂

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  85. I hear people are starting to see the stimulus money sitting in direct deposit, the $1200 per adult, $500 per child thing. Anyone here get it yet?


  86. @ Ton and others: For any small biz owners here impacted by this, go to, click on the relief link, scroll down to the $10k box, click on it, fill out the simple 3 page form (you’ll need EIC and some numbers from 2019 profit and loss), and send it in! Once approved you will get the $10k direct deposit into your biz bank account wi 3 days. Keep track of how it is spent on lost income and paying rent, biz debts, etc. You are welcome and thank you to The Don for saving small businesses!!! From there, you can then apply for the PPP. Take your and any employee income in 2019, divide by 12, then times by 2.5. Add to that an additional 25% for overhead/operating costs. This is the amount that will be forgiven so long as you can document it was spent on replacing lost wages and approved overhead. Yep! You can borrow more, but anything above that would need repaid but at very low interest and good terms. Also these are unsecured, not qualified, not based on credit.

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  87. Let’s see, did I get any “free money” from the gubmint? Checking, … and it’s gone.

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  88. I am not normally a supporter of free govt. money but in this case it’s the difference between sinking or swimming. We’ll see if it comes but worth a shot! 💕

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  89. Also: if you do the vitamin c face cream remember it increases sun sensitivity so use sunblock/hats/etc.

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  90. Bv, once you get the yeast, put some in a jar w some warm-ish water and a spoon of sugar. The yeast will keep making babies so long as you give the slurry a little more water and sugar every few days. Yep! Kind of like sourdough starter. Same idea.

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  91. Farm Boy says:

    Ultimately, China’s incomplete picture led to insufficient plans in other countries. But Beijing’s omissions and lies didn’t just include the number of infected people. They also covered up the nature of the coronavirus itself. In doing so, Beijing violated international treaty obligations to which China is a signatory, including the International Health Regulations

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  92. Farm Boy says:

    The report said damages should be for at least the £3.2 ($6.5 trillion) being spent by G7 nations propping up their domestic economies as governments forced their citizens to stay at home so they could try and contain the disease’s spread.


  93. Cheque d'Out says:

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  94. Cheque d'Out says:

    This is some serious shit. You can skip 18:00 if you don’t want to hear the guy’s proof of relevance. He demonstrates it as he goes on afterwards

    WuFlu can knacker your brain resulting in breathing issues (not knowing that you need to breath due to blood O2 not-sats) and the people trying to infect others with spitting on keypads etc are likely suffering from brain damage.


  95. Ame says:

    LOL! SOOO good to have BV back!

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  96. Cill says:

    The glorious weather we’re having down here makes it very difficult not to feel positive.

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  97. Cill says:

    My Glorious Cock is within 6′ of me right now. I was a bit worried as I haven’t heard him for a while.

    I don’t think I’ve ever heard mine.


  98. Cheque d'Out says:

    Cill, you haven’t lived. That’s all I can say about that.

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  99. Cheque d'Out says:

    “Also: if you do the vitamin c face cream remember it increases sun sensitivity so use sunblock/hats/etc.”

    Bit late. I’m currently rocking a slightly ruddy face. The weather is rather nice round here but still need to be clothed properly.

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  100. Cheque d'Out says:

    “Social distancing you are not”
    There was a door and a net curtain between us.

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  101. BuenaVista says:

    Hi, Ame.

    Bloom, do I leave the yeast culture covered or uncovered? Thank you.

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  102. Cheque d'Out says:

    The guy interviewed by Stefan tears apart a Owen Benjamen related shithead. Perhaps Vox Day might take an interest over this reference to his favourite conspiracy-gimp (flat earther type of mong).


  103. Cheque d'Out says:

    Hi BV, good to see that you’re back and well. You were missed.

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  104. Sharkly says:

    Per the Pythagorean theorem it is about 4.243 feet, or the square root of 18.

    I wouldn’t want to be the first to test out a new vaccine, especially one rushed to market.

    Ivermectin … and I thought you guys weren’t cool with veterinary drugs. LOL


  105. Farm Boy says:

    British Prime Minister Boris Johnson was admitted to the hospital on Sunday after continuing to experience symptoms from the coronavirus after testing positive 10 days ago


  106. As the yeast eat the sugar and make babies, they will create carbon dioxide gas. So you want to cover the jar with something that isn’t airtight, but keeps bugs and stuff out. A small square of fabric and a rubber band over the top of a jar will do. If you put a lid on the jar, the gas will build inside and depending on how happy your yeast party action gets going, it could break the glass if the pressure gets too high. You can put the jar in the fridge to make the yeast go to sleep, then bring it out as needed and let it come up to room temp. I know way too much about yeast, but trust me they are persistent little buggers and if you have ever made bread in your kitchen they are already there, now. You can try just getting a sourdough starter going from that if you can’t find yeast!

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  107. The yeast will be the cloudy sediment in the water/sugar mix. I have never tried the sourdough starter but that sounds interesting, too! Welcome to the world of fermentation!

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  108. Ame says:

    i did the sourdough yeast starter once from scratch, and that was really, really cool 🙂

    the world of fermentation is so interesting. i was making my own kombucha scobies, too – that was fun. loved kombucha. but … when my gut crashed, i had to give up all fermented products. boo. i’ve been able to add back katchup (i buy bottled, organic), and that makes me very happy 🙂

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  109. Sharkly says:

    If you want live lactic acid producing bacteria for your sourdough starter, get some raw sauerkraut from the refrigerated section of your grocery store. The juice contains bacteria. Just add it to your starter. I make a loaf of sourdough bread about every week. And I only ever bought sauerkraut once, to get my homemade starter going. The sourdough bread lasts longer before it molds, because the bacteria break down much of the starch that molds.

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  110. Cheque d'Out says:

    Well, the toilet paper has now run out and we are reduced to using lettuce leaves.
    But that’s just the tip of the iceberg…

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  111. Cheque d'Out says:

    Yes, Ame

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  112. Farm Boy says:

    Good stuff

    The Daily Telegraph this week received a letter from the Australian Consulate General of the People’s Republic of China, who took gentle issue with our excellent coverage of the coronavirus crisis.

    Following is a point-by-point response to the Consulate General and China’s communist dictatorship:


  113. How can testing kits already be contaminated?!? Someone explain that one… weird… makes me glad testing is t widely available! :/

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  114. Wow watch this! How does one explain all these “local independent” news sources parroting the exact same script?!? Creepy!

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  115. Liz says:

    How can testing kits already be contaminated?!? Someone explain that one… weird…

    This is just a wild-ass guess, but maybe the positive control reagent?

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  116. Liz says:

    Since everyone is being told to wear cloth masks, here is an overview of (apparently) the only real study done on the subject, at slate star codex:

    For all three categories, people wearing the real surgical masks were the healthiest, the control group was in the middle, and people wearing the cloth masks were the sickest.
    This shows real surgical masks work better than cloth masks. It’s a little bit unclear about how well cloth masks work. They do worse than the control group, but you could tell two stories about that. In one, cloth masks are worse than no mask at all. In the other, cloth masks have zero-to-slight-positive efficacy, but because some people in the control group were wearing real surgical masks some of the time, they did better than the cloth group overall. So it depends a lot what the control group was doing.
    Why am I focusing on this one weird study so much? Because it’s the only RCT of cloth face masks we have! Millions of people, egged on by top newspapers, are about to start wearing cloth face masks during a pandemic, when right now the authors of the only randomized trial on them conclude they’re probably net harmful. This should be really scary! Somebody with more experience and statistical knowledge than I have should be looking this over with a fine-toothed comb and trying to figure out what we should do.

    Until then, should people stay away from cloth masks? I’m not sure, and this is so not a recommendation, but I lean toward no. The prior that they should work or at least be neutral is too high for a study this weak to convince me otherwise. More important, this study only examines incoming pathogens. Even if they are harmful for blocking incoming pathogens, there are still reasons to think they are helpful for blocking outgoing ones. If I had to hang out with a coronavirus patient for a while, and I had to choose between both of us wearing cloth masks, or neither, I would go with the masks. Only until we could get real surgical masks, which are much better. But I’d go with the cloth ones instead of nothing.

    But right now that’s a gut judgment, and the evidence says I’m wrong. This is one of those times where people have to make a life-or-death decision in conditions of high uncertainty, and it really sucks.

    Okay, think I’ve exhausted the subject of masks. Yes, this subject makes me irate.

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  117. BuenaVista says:

    And The Queen is more together than Biden, 20 years her junior.

    My daughter required her store in SoHo (NYC) to be boarded up. Criminals were casing the place and planning their invasion. For this she is vilified in the NY Times. Fifteen times so far.

    My daughter runs 55 stores from Canada to Brazil, for an Italian fashion house. She’s supposed to fire a lot of people and keep the $5K purses moving via online selling tactics. Oddly, rich people are not buying so many $5K purses based on an internet image, this month. Oh, also, fire a lot of people this week the stores are down 70-80% from plan.

    Karma is so weird. When I was my daughter’s age (her age today) I flew back from East Asia, messed up. I eventually dropped from 190 to 135. She was 10 months old. My wife had dressed herself and my daughter in their Easter best. Thirteen years later I fired 2/3 of my company because 9/11. As noted Canadian philosopher Joni Mitchell described, it’s all a circle game.

    Now my daughter is supposed to make things happen and fire her friends and salvage the year. She probably will do all of that. Then, in a couple of decades, she’ll reflect on firing people in the midst of a global crisis. I’ll be dead by then. She recently started calling me again. I hope I’ve done a good job of being her friend.

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  118. Liz says:

    For that extra bit of insanity: The DOD is now mandating masks.
    They aren’t being issued any, just wear a bandana over your face now, soldier!

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  119. Ame says:

    I’m sure you’re doing a great job. And while she may want you as a friend on some level, deep inside she still wants her Daddy.

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  120. Farm Boy says:

    Bad news for Liz and the Glorious Patriarch

    BREAKING: A tiger at the Bronx Zoo has tested positive for Covid-19. 6 other tigers and lions at the zoo are also showing symptoms. Believed to have been infected by an asymptomatic zoo worker.

    — Natasha Daly (@natashaldaly) April 5, 2020

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  121. Ame says:

    We want to know our Daddy still loves us, that he has our back if we need him, and that he’s proud of us ❤️

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  122. Larry G says:

    Venezuelan Navy fleet excercise…

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  123. Larry G says:

    Waiting, sweetheart, just waiting. Sooner or later you’ll go to sleep…..

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  124. Farm Boy says:

    “What we’re finding clinically with our patients is that it really only works in conjunction with zinc. So the hydroxychloroquine opens the zinc channel, zinc goes into the cell, it then blocks the replication of the cellular machinery,” Cardillo said.

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  125. Gunner Q says:

    Liz says:
    6 April, 2020 at 1:26 am
    “For that extra bit of insanity: The DOD is now mandating masks.
    They aren’t being issued any, just wear a bandana over your face now, soldier!”

    It’s great! I now get to wear ski masks in 7-11 and not get shot.

    Feels kinky.

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  126. SFC Ton says:

    I don’t know all about that but I’d be pretty fucking proud about being smart if’ing i was as smart as some of you fuckers. I’d double down on that given how hard some of y’all have worked to expand on that gift

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