From here,

Welcome to the year 2020, when women now comprise the majority of the workforce. It only took 50 years. “The [jobs] report strongly suggests that the labor market dynamics are tilting in the direction of women,” said Joe Brusuelas, chief economist at RSM US. “We often look for tangible evidence of change. It is now here in the data.”

Well, yes they do compose most of the workforce.  Why might this be?  There are lots of reasons, but one of them is that they have what one might suggest are artificial advantages over men, be it affirmative action, being slotted for cushy office jobs, etc.

Some will cheer this phenomenon as a boon for women and for society, but it is anything but. When men dominate the workforce, there’s no negative effect on marriage and family formation. But unemployed and underemployed men have 0% chance of finding a wife.

Apparently nobody ever thought about that.  Perhaps it is not important to a society.

Actually, even gainfully employed men have trouble finding a wife, at least one can be happy (that is for another post).

We envision ourselves progressive when it comes to women and work, but women are still (and always will be) the sex that gets pregnant. As such, they know that if they want to have children, and if they want the option of taking care of those children, if only for a few years, they need a competent working husband on whom they can rely. Women also aren’t attracted to men who lack ambition or drive. A man doesn’t need to be rich, but he needs to know where he’s going and how he’s going to get there.

Well, yes, envisioning yourself as being progressive is a thing, though it is a thing that doesn’t necessarily make sense (but it can make one feel good).

Actually ambition and drive are often not enough.  Women only want the best. Will the understanding of this concept ever become mainstream?  Probably not.

We cannot reverse the sexes in this scenario and end up with the same result. A woman’s employment status determines zero of her physical attractiveness. The average man isn’t looking for a woman who can support him (nor is his desire for her related to her level of ambition), so his attachment to work is very different from a woman’s. Work is a man’s identity, his means of being useful.

Ok then, old time people understood this.  Now we have de-motivated men.  Whose fault is that?

To be clear, this is not an argument against women being in the workforce at all.

Let’s face it.  It kind of is.

“Gen X here, and I can say that I have worked my entire adult life, full-time and through college, supported my unemployed husband when he was out of work and currently earn more than he does. AND I HATE IT. Bitter is not a strong enough word for how I feel,” writes Karen

So she is bitter, really bitter.   Is her situation terrible?  Probably not.  She undoubtedly has lots of material things and you-go-girl accolades.  Why should she be bitter?

Men can burn out too, of course, but they don’t typically fantasize about dropping out of the workforce or being unemployed.

Actually many do fantasize, and some actually live their fantasy.  These days, it is a rather large number.  Short answer — the incentives are kind of gone.

At the end of the day, nothing good will come from men being displaced by women in the workforce. This phenomenon has, and will continue to, create a sharp decline in marriage and family formation and will increase the likelihood of divorce and even death.

That’s not progress. That’s regress.

Yes it is.  Or no it isn’t.  Depends on your point of view.  If you are a white man, the correct types do want regress.

Exit question — What is the future of work for men?

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138 comments on “Work
  1. Sharkly says:

    I got good news at work today. My miracle work last night got recognized, and for saving the company a bundle of money, I have been awarded 100 points at the company store. I think I was awarded points before, but I have never been able to figure out how to log in and redeem them. I think you have to have a degree in computing to figure it out. However if I am ever able to redeem my points, You are possibly looking at the proud new owner of a koozie emblazoned with our company logo, or a new lanyard for my badge, or even another airliner tie pin. So be aware that y’all have been visited by greatness, in this my finest hour! Did I mention I did all this whilst also bravely staving off a potentially deadly virus? Seriously! How do I do it!

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  2. That company store stuff is hilarious.

    “Thanks, for doing an extra terrific job! You saved our executive bonuses for the quarter! Here, have some cheap Chinese-made crap with the company name on it for your trouble.”

    Makes you want to come in early and stay late, don’t it.

    Now, to be fair, we did get a nice enough Yeti camp mug the last go round, but the stainless steel lining means you can’t use it in the microwave so it’s not terribly useful at home.

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  3. h0neyc0mb says:

    Exit question — What is the future of work for men?

    Ball Bearings ..

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  4. I thought Fletch 2 was not awful as most sequels go. It was a “C+” vs. the original’s “A”.

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  5. SFC Ton says:

    But unemployed and underemployed men have 0% chance of finding a wife

    Those men are truly blessed. We should all be a little jelly

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  6. Larry G says:

    “women now comprise the majority of the workforce. It only took 50 years. “The [jobs] report strongly suggests that the labor market dynamics are tilting in the direction of women,” said Joe Brusuelas, chief economist at RSM US. “We often look for tangible evidence of change. It is now here in the data.”

    Riiight! Every female working that I know (thankfully few) has a “does-not-one-fucking-useful-thing” job, which includes two of my idiot sisters, three nieces, two cousins and a half dozen so-called coworkers. They actually produce not one damn thing of real value. But females have always managed to hijack what men have built in the past, placed their fat asses on the things they were given to them by MEN and declared themselves as Prime Cunts of the Anthill.

    We can get along as a society without female interference in the work places, they were not required before and sure as fuck won’t be required in the future.

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  7. Cill says:

    And… still oppressed (there’s no taking that away from them):

    Women have lost 3 times more office jobs than men have.

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  8. Sharkly says:

    If my sons ask about the lanyard, or whatever I end up getting, I’ll have to remember to tell them:

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  9. Cill says:

    Sorry to interrupt, but when I look at Moe’s comment on the penultimate post, I hang my head. What have we become? Mere beasts of the field?

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  10. Cill says:

    We should ban Moe from this blog. Enough is enough before he lands us all in hot water.
    (Excuse the mixed metaphor but these are desperate times)


  11. Cill says:

    You’re all good. Yeah, no, good onya.


  12. Cheque d'Out says:

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  15. Cheque d'Out says:

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  16. Cheque d'Out says:

    Top advice here

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  17. Farm Boy says:

    The wartime appetite for la délation — reporting wrongdoers to the authorities — has reappeared. In country towns, people are denouncing neighbours to the gendarmerie for breaching le confinement and leaving their homes too often. …


  18. Farm Boy says:

    If a woman had the hots for you, would you even know it?


  19. Farm Boy says:

    What we must do is batten down the hatches and rely on ourselves and family and communities first. We must find ways to get things done.

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  20. Farm Boy says:

    TV chef Sandra Lee has shut down the discussion of whether Democratic New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo has a nipple piercing.


  21. Farm Boy says:

    The former, for a good chunk of them, have been so Damaged by Leftist Thinking that they feel Helpless.

    Many of the Damaged former and the Feckless latter are giving-in to Panic and Hysteria.


  22. Cheque d'Out says:


  23. “The [jobs] report strongly suggests that the labor market dynamics are tilting in the direction of women,”

    Labor markets that actually require less physical or cognitive capacity are a perfect fit for women.

    Also, women make better/more docile slaves.

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  24. Cheque d'Out says:

    I’ve just been to Tesco and saw a bloke buying 4 crates of San Miguel, 5 paellas and 3 sombreros and I thought to myself……….

    Hispanic buying.

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  25. Cheque d'Out says:

    That’s fair criticism

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  26. Liz says:

    Hispanic buying.

    Or maybe shopping is therapeutic for him….
    And he was worried about hispanic attacks.

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  27. Is Tesco more like a super-market or a Costco?


  28. Cheque d'Out says:

    Tesco is a supermarket chain

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  29. Farm Boy says:

    An infectious disease doctor told Fox News on Wednesday night that using hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin to treat patients that have the coronavirus was an “absolute game changer” and that it was “the beginning of the end of the pandemic.”


  30. можно мне пиво?


  31. Farm Boy says:

    Liz on edge from being cooped up

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  32. Farm Boy says:

    Liz being accosted by TRB (Trail Running Bitch)

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  33. Farm Boy says:

    Confronting China over patent and copyright theft, technological appropriation, dumping and currency manipulation was not just in the U.S. interest, but for the global good.

    A reckless and disingenuous China poses an existential threat to countries across the globe. The only world bulwark against Chinese propaganda and bullying remains U.S. economic and military power

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  34. Farm Boy says:

    Now the coronavirus crisis seems to be exacerbating the trend that started with one island nation in the Atlantic pulling up their drawbridges in 2016, followed by the island’s former colony in the West electing a president who promptly took his country out of a global climate accord. The world saw that history is not only not one-directional. It could actually be reversed.

    In 2020, it is even more evident that global institutions are not to be trusted. During times of actual crisis, they are not just incompetent and negligent, but also downright indifferent to tragedy. A distant and detached transnational bureaucracy only cares about one thing: perpetuating their elite rule and survival.

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  35. RichardP says:

    I told the story here about a doctor friend who had laid in a good supply of the malaria medicine and Z-Packs.

    He had a number of seriously-ill Covid19 patients that he thought would take four weeks or so to recover, assuming they did not continue to get worse. Malaria drug and Z-Packs and they were up and walking around in three days.

    For the doctor who he was caring for, who we thought might not make it – same thing. In 3 or 4 days he was back in his office (with no staff), talking to patients on the phone. Not strong like before he got ill. But not still in his hospital bed either.

    I’m sure this regime won’t work for everyone. But it worked for these folks. Woohoo!!

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  36. Liz says:

    Z-pack is an antibiotic. Antibiotics are for bacterial infections. Sometimes secondary bacterial infections happen with viruses, but z-pack alone won’t knock out a virus in three days.

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  37. RichardP says:

    After the post I linked to above:

    KH said his organization had been doing telemedicine for several years now. I want to make the distinction between telemedicine and telehealth. People confuse those terms, and can’t have productive conversations – which is why I put the document together that I linked to.

    Telemedicine is an emerging field, with its own equipment and regulations. This is controlled primarily by the Medicare folks and the commercial carriers follow their lead. The practice of telemedicine requires doctor/patient interaction through a HIPPA-compliant Patient Portal (which has a specific meaning and requires specific equipment and software).

    The telehealth approved for this Covid19 emergency is a different animal altogether (interact over smartphones, tablets, laptop computers rather than patient portal). The assumption is that telehealth,/i> will go away once the emergency is over. I think it might not go away, if it proves itself.

    KH said: Doctors who charge A LOT OF MONEY for an office visit are not going to be able to charge A LOT OF MONEY for tele-medicine visits. The Sultan of Brunei ain’t gonna pay you $50k to skype examine himself and his concubines.

    I’ve just had a crash-course in telemedicine and telehealth – so I think I sort of know the basics, but probably don’t know everything. The Medicare folks have a list of services that can be performed via telemedicine, restrictions on where the patient must be in order for that telemedicine service to be provided, and the telemedince must be conducted over an approved patient portal. For providers who have contracts with Medicare or other health insurance carriers (participating providers), they may not provide telehealth services that are not on that list, the patient must be in the specified location, a patient portal must be used, and the provider must accept whatever payment the particular insurance carrier pays.

    For this go-round of telehealth (not telemedicine), the patient can be anywhere, the doctor can be anywhere, and the patient/doctor interaction can be accomplished with any electronic device that gets the job done – including telephone only. The goal of CMS is to keep the Medicare (older folks) in their homes – to reduce the likelihood that they will encounter the Covid19 virus. But – for this emergency – they are broadening that goal to cover everyone, not just Medicare folks.

    KY – having said that – most of our 20 or so doctor friends are not contracted with Medicare or other insurance carriers. Their patients pay cash. Not being contracted, they are not bound by the regulations of Medicare or the other insurance carriers. They can and do charge whatever they want. And so they could do the telehealth with the Sultan of Brunei and other foreign royalty and charge whatever they want. The Sultan could be treated through a patient portal – but none of these doctors use these, not being regulated by Medicare or other insurance carriers.

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  38. RichardP says:

    @Liz: I have been reading some of the scientific papers. I kept up at first, but they have become so numerous now that I haven’t read all of them.

    My first few comments about Covid-19, when it first started, were prefaced by the disclaimer “based on what we know now” – what I knew coming from said scientific papers.

    What we know now is more extensive than it was when I made my first comments.

    The major route to death for Covid19 is still pneumonia > low blood oxygen > organ failure > death.

    But they have discovered that, somewhere in there, some things are happening wherein some patients get a bad case of sepsis – which is bacterial. So, malaria medicine for the virus; Z-Pack in case the pathway to sepsis has been triggered. It is prophylactic. As in, why wait until the patient is in full-blown sepsis before administering the antibiotics?

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  39. Liz says:

    Many of the folks who died from Spanish flu died of secondary bacterial infections.
    I’m not disputing antibiotics are important…your post seemed to be a rejoinder to what I mentioned to Deti. Maybe it’s just a coincidence you posted this right after?

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  40. Gunner Q says:

    A government advisory in Malaysia is facing widespread backlash after instructing women to dress up, wear makeup, and not nag their husbands during quarantine.

    In the wake of the southeast Asian country’s lockdown, Malaysia’s Ministry for Women, Family and Community Development published a series of posters to Facebook and Instagram, under the hashtag “WomenPreventCOVID19.” The posters urged women not to nag their husbands and to avoid being “sarcastic” when asking for help with household chores. It also encouraged working women to dress up and wear makeup, avoiding “home clothes.”

    The Malasyian government clearly did not anticipate the overwhelmingly negative response to the bizarre initiative. “How did we go from preventing baby dumping, fighting domestic violence to some variant of the Obedient Wives Club?” one person asked.

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  41. RichardP says:

    After the post I linked to above:

    Ame asked some questions:

    The link to the paper I prepared for the doctors is a PDF file on Dropbox. Not all devices can read PDF files. Some devices have difficulty with accessing Dropbox. I’ll attach a copy to an eMail for you later on today. If I forget, remind me. Anyone else want one, the administrators have my eMail address. The paper is relevant for the doctors and staff. Probably just a curiousity item for all else, except for the links to the HIPPA relaxation.

    I am not on Twitter. But I can read Twitter links. As Liz stated, BV has posted links to his Twitter account on a number of occasions (I made note of his Twitter account). But you can do a Google search on BV’s Twitter handle that Liz has posted recently (don’t remember what it is off the top of my head) and find his account.

    Wife and I are avoiding intimate contact for the time being (an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, and all that). But it has been three weeks since she was physically close to the doctor that was ill with Covid19. Neither she, nor any of his staff, have shown any symptoms. And the doctors that she interacts with are all doing Telehealth at the moment, and the doctors are showing no symptoms. So – feel the fear and do it anyway is the go-to emotion for the moment. I’m guessing that is also the go-to emotion for Stephanie and Patrick, and any of the others here whose job is public-facing.

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  42. RichardP says:

    @Lis: Maybe it’s just a coincidence you posted this right after?

    Yes. I’ve been busy and haven’t read or posted for several days. I posted my stuff in this thread without having read anything. Wanted to respond to the folks’ comments to what I posted on the other thread before too much more time passes. I’ll get around to reading this thread later, hopefully.

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  43. Cheque d'Out says:


  44. Cheque d'Out says:

    Stay safe, people

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  45. Ame says:

    Thank you for the update, Richard. I’ve been wondering …

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  46. re: Liz’s info-graph link

    So, on a cable news show the other night, the Washington, D.C.-based anchor asks a doctor if it would be possible to move some of the ventilator cases out of NYC to other parts of the country which haven’t been hit so hard. While I was just narrowly avoiding inspirating my beverage, the doctor replied that it was quite difficult to safely move patients on vents, and that long moves were really out-of-the question.

    Now, why-the-fuck we out in here deplorable fly-over country would want to actually have the disease literally trucked into our own communities to fill our own hospital beds, didn’t seem to occur the the anchor. I wonder what would happen if they actually tried that?

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  47. Now, just half a roll of duct tape should get’r done.

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  48. Cheque d'Out says:

    Like fuck will I be clapping. And I’m pretty happy with my local practice

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  49. Though surely not as helpful as actually clapping.

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  50. Cheque d'Out says:

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  51. Liz says:

    Benson and Hedges cigarette giant British American Tobacco claims it has developed a coronavirus vaccine made from tobacco plants and can manufacture 3 million a week starting in June.
    Trying to think what I like best about this…
    the fact a tobacco company might (metaphorically) save the world….
    or the fact this company has the acronym BAT.
    (anyone who thinks God doesn’t have a sense of humor isn’t paying attention)

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  52. Cheque d'Out says:

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  53. Cheque d'Out says:

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  54. SFC Ton says:

    fighting domestic violence to some variant of the Obedient Wives Club?” one person asked.

    The best way for bitches to fight domestic violence is by being obedient

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  55. SFC Ton says:

    Now, why-the-fuck we out in here deplorable fly-over country would want to actually have the disease literally trucked into our own communities to fill our own hospital beds

    I think all yankees should make a pilgrimage to NYC. Without PPE, just to prove their compassion and solidarity

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  56. Larry G says:

    Ton, I get the distinct impression that you aren’t real fond of Yankees.

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  57. Farm Boy says:

    Michigan Democratic Gov. Gretchen Whitmer’s administration has requested an emergency supply of the drugs President Trump touted as having success treating patients with severe symptoms of the novel coronavirus, in a reversal from the state’s directive to medical professionals last week to avoid the medication for this purpose

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  58. Farm Boy says:

    Liz monitoring the bird feeder

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  59. RichardP says:

    And the one on the right did this honorable thing today. Because, you know, we have tomake sure that the criminals get discovered and punished.


  60. Farm Boy says:

    Glorious Patriarch,

    How did that clapping thing go?

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  61. Farm Boy says:

    Whatever the case, the steel-hulled patrol ship suffered severe damage from repeatedly ramming the cruise ship, began to take on water, and ultimately sank. Columbia Cruise Services says Resolute remained in the area until it was clear its services were not required to help in the rescue of the 44 crew members. It then continued on, as planned, to the Port of Willemstad in Curaçao.


  62. Cheque d'Out says:


  63. Cheque d'Out says:

    Disappointed to say that I could hear six* fingered clapping from my window.

    *I admit that I’m guessing here but I suspect an involvement of inbreeding

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  64. SFC Ton says:

    LOL I ain’t overly fond of them but just imagine the levels of liberty and mascuilne sovereignty we’d enjoy if yankees hadn’t been part of the electorate for the last 150 years or so. Not to mention the cultural protections and what not

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  65. RichardP says:

    RIP BIll Withers.

    I particularly like this version – even though the intro is cut off. No man is an island.


  66. Farm Boy says:

    A lot of people owe Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AK) an apology because a microbiologist said “in no uncertain terms that the novel coronavirus could have been unleashed due to a leak from the Wuhan Institute of Virology

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  67. Farm Boy says:

    For those of you unaware, that phrase is said when you’re happy. She is praising Allah. She is praising Allah that Americans will be going through a very painful time.


  68. Cheque d'Out says:

    Serious shit.


  69. whiteguy1 says:

    Welp, another week with the crazy parasite still attached.

    We got her computer imaged and for sure that machine was used to access my account. Funny some of the things she accessed and then deleted (anything that would be embarrassing to her, or not fit her narrative).

    Ought to get interesting now.

    Now she might try to throw the kids under the bus, but who knows.

    I want my shit back,
    I want her ass gone,
    I want to be free in 2020!

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  70. SFC Ton says:

    You were married
    You’ll never be free again. Even after the divorce. Unless she does or you leave the nation and never return


  71. Farm Boy says:

    In January President Xi Jinping made a decision that would ultimately condemn the world: allowing 5 million people to leave the epicentre of the virus without being screened.

    — 60 Minutes Australia (@60Mins) March 29, 2020

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  72. Farm Boy says:

    Once the virus made its inevitable outward march, claiming lives beyond China’s borders, the CPC mounted a major public relations exercise that exploited common human decencies to evade accountability. Criticism of the Chinese government was equated with racist prejudice against ordinary Chinese people. The result: rather than confront China, precious energies were exerted to avoid the trap set by China. In February, the Mayor of Florence launched a campaign encouraging Italians to “hug a Chinese”, describing it as a “fight of solidarity and unity against virus”. The People’s Daily, a mouthpiece of the CPC, applauded young Italians advertising their virtuousness on the Internet with photos of themselves hugging Chinese tourists without mentioning a word about the mortal perils of human contact.

    China didn’t owe an apology or an explanation to the world: the world owed China proof of its anti-racism. There was no time, of course, to ponder the irony of the most xenophobic despotism in the world, which has interned a million ethnic Uighur Muslims in Xinjiang, cleansed Tibetan Buddhists from their homeland, and deluged restive regions with Han settlers, setting itself up as the certifying authority on what constituted anti-racist behaviour.

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  73. Farm Boy says:

    Nightline Hosts Asks Pence If He Talks To God About People Who Died From Alleged Government Inaction On Coronavirus


  74. Liz says:

    Polis said at a news conference at the state’s Emergency Operations Center that people should wash their masks after every trip out of their homes. He said people should use cloth-based, non-medical masks.
    He encouraged people to make them out of items in their homes, including old T-shirts and scarves.”


  75. SFC Ton says:

    I’m no doctor but that don’t make sense

    A dust rag can save your ass from a lot of things but probably not microbes and what not

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  76. Farm Boy says:

    According to a new breaking news report from Politico, China is once again implementing mass quarantines to combat the coronavirus outbreak after their initial quarantine failed.


  77. Farm Boy says:

    Around half a million Chinese people, some of them infected with coronavirus, entered America from December to February at the height of the COVID-19 outbreak, new figures show.

    Liked by 1 person

  78. Farm Boy says:

    A video out of Berlin shows Muslim worshippers flagrantly violating Germany’s quarantine law and social distancing rules by congregating outside a mosque as police fail in attempting to disperse them.

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  79. Farm Boy says:

    Separated at birth?

    Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer and Caitlyn Jenner


  80. Farm Boy says:

    “He’s talking about the federal government,” Trump continued. “I mean, it’s such a basic, simple question, and you try to make it sound so bad. You ought to be ashamed of yourself, you know what, you ought to be ashamed of yourself. It’s such a simple question. He said, ‘our,’ and ‘our’ means for the country, and ‘our’ means for the states because the states are a part of the country. Don’t make it sound bad.”


  81. RichardP says:

    @Ton – the non-medical mask is not for protection of self. It is to catch any drops of saliva that might be spewed, either by exhalling sharply, coughing, spitting at someone, etc.

    In their “setting the stage” intros, the scientific journals stated early on that large number of Chinese people had returned to their jobs in northern Italy (which employees lots of them; I was surprised to learn that), Spain (I think), and the U.S. So I have been wondering from the beginning of the reported death totals how many of the dead were those who had returned from China. I have not seen that figure broken out anywhere. Not saying it doesn’t exist. I just haven’t seen it. And I think that would be an important figure to know.


  82. Farm Boy says:

    As the U.K. suffers from the COVID-19 pandemic, Queen Elizabeth II will be giving a rare televised address this Sunday.


  83. Liz says:

    @Ton – the non-medical mask is not for protection of self. It is to catch any drops of saliva that might be spewed, either by exhalling sharply, coughing, spitting at someone, etc.

    It was only a few weeks ago the CDC recommended no masks at all. Whatever their reasons, nothing has changed in the contagion process to make this a good idea now when it was a bad idea then (or vice versa).
    There’s really no such thing as a magical one-sided working mask. If it works to prevent the wearer from spewing germs it works the other way as well. The problem is, if you wear something like this for any real period of time it will get germy, as the fluids will soak into the fabric. At any rate, with everyone in lockdown/quarantine folks are coming into contact with each other far less frequently than back when they were implying masks were not only non-functional but actually harmful.

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  84. Liz says:

    I wonder if the FDA has discovered alcohol kills viruses yet?

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  85. Larry G says:

    Is it just me or does seem that the various government agencies and elected representatives who are discussing with/recommending for/instructing on/reporting about this pandemic are really just having a gigantic cluster fuck?
    Somehow credibility of these vertical turds is a bit lacking

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  86. I’m with Larry, but it’s not just the government and media dummies. The weak links in company leadership, the over-paid chair-warmers, are really showing how useless they actually are as well.

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  87. Farm Boy says:

    Liz in her reckless youth

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  88. Larry G says:

    KH, The faggot governor of this state made some of the stupidest remarks and idiot inspired recommendations on making and wearing homemade facemasks. It was awe inspiring to hear the fat qweer babble on about facemasks being a fashion statement (yes, he/she actually said that, a fashion statement

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  89. Think I’ll just wear my motorcycle helmet next time I’m at Kroger. Maybe glue some battery operated fans on it to create a positive pressure zone in my immediate area.

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  90. Farm Boy says:

    “There are many more dead than are officially declared,” Eugenio Fossati, deputy mayor of Coccaglio, said. “But this is not a j’accuse. People died and they were never tested because time and resources are limited.”

    “We know the real number is higher, and we mourn them, knowing full well why they died,” Fossati continued. “It’s a hard truth to accept.”


  91. Farm Boy says:

    LAVENDER FALLS, IA—Women everywhere say they’re very angry as their oil businesses, which are clearly labeled essential, are nonetheless being called non-essential.

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  92. Farm Boy says:

    U.S.—Zoom has introduced a new filter that makes it look as though you’re dressed appropriately for your work, school, or church meeting.

    The filter replaces your pajamas or entirely shirtless body with a nice suit or blouse. Now, people at work won’t even know that you haven’t put on clothes or showered in well over a week. The filter even makes your expression look more attentive, replacing that zoned-out look with one of interest and intrigue.

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  93. Farm Boy says:

    U.S.—After state governments across the country directed their citizens to shut down their businesses and just kinda hope things worked out, a new order has been issued: everyone is to jump off a bridge immediately.


  94. RichardP says:

    @Liz said: If it works to prevent the wearer from spewing germs it works the other way as well.

    Yes. I thought that was obvious, but perhaps not. Thanks for pointing that out. But it only works to prevent the spewing of germs that are in droplets of saliva that will fall to whatever surface is available to fall on unless they are blocked by the home-made mask as they exit the mouth or nose.

    That home-made mask (as opposed to the professional masks) don’t work to protect anyone from the virus that has become aerosolized and stays in the air for some time.. Two separate forms of transmission: droplets that drop, and airborne for some time. The home-made mask is only good for one form of transmission, leaving its wearer subject to infection by the other form. That is, the airborne Covid19 virus is small enough to pass through the weave of the cloth, if that is what the mask is made of.


  95. Cheque d'Out says:

    The new laba leadershit has been announced.
    The wooden stump bloke is the new leader, the fat tongued mong is his deputy.


  96. Cheque d'Out says:


  97. Cheque d'Out says:

    All hail the new laba leader

    All rumours that the new leader will inspire a leadership cult following like Jezz are being denied.

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  98. Cheque d'Out says:

    And as for the deputy


  99. Cheque d'Out says:

    What’s the difference between Wuhan and Las Vegas?

    What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas.

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  100. Cheque d'Out says:


    She can’t even speak coherent English.


  101. Cheque d'Out says:

    Mongmentum hearing the good news that far left sockpuppet Jezza no longer leads the party


  102. Cheque d'Out says:

    Another reaction

    Meanwhile this from Paul Embery, the fire fighting trade unionist.

    “Labour has just elected as leader a knighted lawyer from north London who was the driving force behind the party’s fatal second referendum policy and is steeped in the values of globalist liberal cosmopolitanism that were roundly rejected at the last election.

    I wish him well.“

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  105. Cheque d'Out says:

    She has impeccable taste in music

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  106. Cheque d'Out says:

    His music may well be dreary shit but he has a decent sense of humour


  107. Cheque d'Out says:

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  109. Liz says:

    That home-made mask (as opposed to the professional masks) don’t work to protect anyone from the virus that has become aerosolized and stays in the air for some time..

    True. They need N95 or better respirator masks for that. But they’ve been saying that for a while now. What they’ve also claimed is that surgical masks don’t work. And they recommended not to use them…which implies they do more harm than good.
    Now they are telling everyone to wear masks that will turn into a fomite if they are worn for any real length of time. Unlike a surgical mask, or any type of mask with a liquid resistant liner the liquid is going to seep in and they you’re wearing those germs on your face, right up to your mouth and nose. This is really a stupid idea and I’m pretty gobsmacked they’ve gone from telling everyone NOT to wear masks (this is a distinction between telling people to please not horde or forego them because our healthcare providers need them…that is prudent, but telling people masks simply don’t work as they did, and they included the N95 with that, “it won’t fit right”) This bothers me almost as much as the FDA claiming hand sanitizer doesn’t kill viruses.

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  110. Liz says:

    What I don’t understand is…why the CDC can’t simply state facts, as though they are speaking to someone more than five years old when they make statements to the American public. Surgical masks “don’t work” N95 masks “don’t work”….”so please save these non-functioning masks for our medical providers that need them”. It’s insulting. Now “masks work just make anything…here, take a strip of tee shirt it’s better than nothing”. This doesn’t bother you, Richard?

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  111. Liz says:

    Related side note: Singapore is issuing their public surgical masks. Four per family.
    Suddenly masks are a thing.
    I’m thinking reusing the same masks over and over is probably not a great plan.

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  112. Liz says:

    “No masks work at all! You’re an idiot if you wear a mask…you anti-#Science! person”
    “Anything at all works! Don’t leave your home without a tee shirt or rag over your face! It’s #Science! people!”
    This is literally an overnight change. Kind of like “travel restrictions are bad and only harm people” wait! “travel restrictions are necessary”

    These aren’t rumors, they are the actual recommendation of “experts”.
    This bothers me.
    ‘Nuff said.

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  113. “What I don’t understand is…why the CDC can’t simply state facts,”

    Because the CDC is a political entity and not a scientific one. Same with the WHO.

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  114. Love me some Donna Reed.


  115. Who ever makes this dude’s wigs should get an award.

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  116. RichardP says:

    @Liz said: This doesn’t bother you, Richard?

    Short answer: yes – it does bother me. In the way that failing to define the terms used in a national conversation bothers me (if terms aren’t defined first, how can we know what we are discussing?). But that failure is a feature in a system that wants to control the way we think by controlling the national narrative. They do that by controlling our access to knowing what was actually said and what was actually meant. Mostly, they give us what they want us to think was said rather than what was actually said. I can provide multiple examples of this, but I’m sure you can come up with your own examples.

    Liz – the things you’ve pointed out as contradicting statements: I have no way of knowing what was actually said and what was actually meant in the meetings that spawned those comments in the national press. But I do know the media is going to misrepresent whatever was actually said and meant when it suits their purpose. Press says “CDC says this”. That is a different situation than being in the room when the statements are actually made and hearing what was said and meant from the source in real time. My go-to whenever I recognize that I cannot trust what I am hearing from a particular source is to simply ignore that source and consider other sources.

    So – simply consider the logic of the issue.

    Re. these statements from your post: Surgical masks “don’t work” N95 masks “don’t work”….”so please save these non-functioning masks for our medical providers that need them” Those statements are both true and false. True for the folks who do not know how to wear them properly (properly donned, and with additional protection for the eyes). False for the medical folks who do know how to put them on properly.

    So – to whom were those comments directed by the ones who originally made them (the officials, not the press)? The masses, who will put them on improperly and who will still get infected through their unprotected eyes? Or the professionals, who do know what full gear (of which the mask is only a part) they need to put on in order to be protected?

    Remember that we are dealing with two sources of infection (simple version): the stuff that gets spewed in relatively large saliva droplets, that immediately sinks to whatever surface catches it, and the aerosolized stuff that hangs in the air for minutes. Those working in health-care places are more likely to run into aersolized Covid19 than is the man on the street. So save for the professionals the masks that protect against that. The man on the street, assuming he’s not in a crowded work space, is more likely to encounter the Covid19 virus after it has been expelled in saliva droplets and has dropped to whatever surface catches it.

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  117. Liz says:

    Well, Richard, however you want to parse the CDC’s statements they created policy.
    So, for example, our military members and contractors were sitting on buses in the ROK surrounded by people like sardines…without masks (they weren’t approved).
    Good grief.

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  118. RichardP says:

    @Liz said: our military members and contractors were sitting on buses in the ROK surrounded by people like sardines…without masks (they weren’t approved).
    Good grief.

    I agree with the “good grief”, but only as applied to the emotion of realizing we’ve got people in harms way, with no good way to protect them other than to physically take them out of harm’s way and put them all in Bryce Canyon. But then, they would maybe succumb to the lack of protection from the elements or the lack of food and water (since we cannot get that to everybody we would place there).

    There is a reason we have seen folks dressed in Mars outfits. That is the only thing that offers actual protection. Given that the virus has been enter through the eyes, what good do masks do when the eyes are uncovered? We can’t give all our folks in ROK those Mars space suites. And masks on their own would not protect our folks sitting on the bus in the ROK, even if we had sufficient supply for all of them. Masks would only give a sense of false hope, and perhaps lead those masked folks to take risks they wouldn’t otherwise take, thinking that the mask will protect them.

    I think we are really discussing two separate issues here: the words that are being used by the various leadership folks, and what is actually possible to accomplish on the ground at a given location.

    At the beginning of this Covid19 thing, I asked a few times how do we decide who lives? in order to trigger thinking. Liz, there is one obvious answer that informs my response to questions like you are asking me: we cannot choose to let live those folks who are in a location / situation where we cannot get them the physical defense they need to actually defeat what is trying to kill them. In that case, the ability to choose has been taken out of our hands. And, at it’s most basic, that is what triage is all about – who can we actually make a difference with? And the answer to that is only those who we can get the materials to that will help them defeat what is trying to kill them. As we have seen consistently since the videos from China surfaced: those folks are far fewer in number than those we can’t help because we can’t get them what they need when they need it.

    We are dealing with several generations of folk who were raised on television. That has taught them 1) that problems are solvable within half an hour or an hour, and 2) there is a pill for what ails you. Just buy it, take it, and all will be well.

    For many, this is probably their first introduction to the reality that those two points, pushed for decades by the media, are not true in all cases. Those folks are having a difficult time coming to accept the fact that we can only save as many folks as we have the resources for (time, material, and medicine). We don’t have enough for everybody. That is a difficult pill to swallow for the experienced folks, let alone those who are facing this fact for maybe the first time in their lives.


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