Borderline Part IV


So what about divorce with children when a borderline is involved.  This is obviously tricky, as the borderline hates you with a passion.  There is a really high probability that she will try to alienate the children with respect to you.  This can be extremely difficult to handle.  Extremely.  But one must keep their head.

The best approach that I have seen is the one used by my brother-in-law.  It is simple in concept, but takes patience and discipline.  However, it probably only works well when the borderline is not particularly clever.  Anyway, here it is: always act calm and rational, always be in control of the situation, always be looking out for their best interests without advertising that you are doing so, always refrain from criticizing the ex (within limits), be the rock that the kids need.  Probably, you will have custody at least every other weekend.  This hopefully will be enough to show them what the normal world looks like.

So if, as with my BIL’s ex, she can’t control herself, causing her to do stupid things, they will see it.  Hopefully, they will catch on that Mom is loco.  Not only that, they will see the consequences of her decisions, and decide not to be that way.  It may be a tough education, but it is one that they will never forget.

If the borderline is really clever, I am not sure what to do.  Perhaps a commenter might have an idea.

Addendum by Deti:

And document. Document, document, document.

Document every interaction with the BPD. Every one. Summarize them. Make notes of what they said, direct quotes if possible. Make notes of what they did. Every outburst. Every statement. Every out of control thing they say or do. Every one. If they start losing their shit, whip out the phone and start video recording. If they object, say that it’s because you consider them a threat to you and the kids.

 

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149 comments on “Borderline Part IV
  1. Farm Boy says:

    This is the last of the series.

    And a rather important one I think

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  2. Cill says:

    FB, thanks for the series. I don’t know enough about the psychological aspects of “Borderline” to contribute much. Maybe a short post on my encounters with people who fit the type?

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  3. Farm Boy says:

    Yes, by all means

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  4. earl says:

    I’d also be convinced there’s probably some demonic aspects involved with BPD too.

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  5. Cill says:

    The Conservatives achieved the 326 seats they needed to win government with an absolute majority about 5am local time (4pm AEDT).

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  6. Jack says:

    One possible tactic: Give her a really cute pet. It will soften her heart towards you, and it will also occupy her time and attention so that she doesn’t focus so much negative energy on you.

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  7. Jack says:

    BPD’s didn’t get enough love and attention in their childhood, so they always feel desperate for that. If you do anything that could be interpreted negatively, they will think you did it on purpose and will try to get revenge. So you always have to treat them with kindness.

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  8. Cheque d'Out says:

    You now that Labour people are delusional when they suggest that Jess Phillips has “charisma”.

    —-

    Discussing Jess Phillips or Crayons Rayner as next leader on ITV.
    They have learned fuck all. Absolutely fuck all.
    I can’t even

    (Wrong shoe woman)

    Our son, an ardent Labour supporter is coming home for the weekend. I have been told by Mrs 10210 not to mention the election or cause any arguments.

    Will be very difficult, may have to try not to smile too much

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  9. Farm Boy says:

    So you always have to treat them with kindness.

    Well, that is one approach. At least it doesn’t give them an excuse

    But, let’s face it, almost nothing works with BPDs.

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  10. Farm Boy says:

    NEW YORK, NY—At a special ceremony Thursday, Planned Parenthood posthumously awarded Herod the Great with its highest honor, the organization’s coveted PPFA Margaret Sanger Award.

    Planned Parenthood gives the award out to individuals who advance the pro-abortion agenda, and baby-murdering King Herod was the obvious choice

    https://babylonbee.com/news/planned-parenthood-honors-king-herod-with-lifetime-achievement-award

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  11. Cheque d'Out says:

    Sarah Olney gets new ministerial car

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  12. Cheque d'Out says:

    “Farage has brought the whole Poltical system to its knees over the last 4 years, without actually winning anything

    An unseen force, a hand that will drag you beneath the waves if you like”

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  13. Cheque d'Out says:


    SNP did well in Sco’land. But nobody cares because BloJo has a majority that means that he doesn’t have to deal with them.

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  14. Cheque d'Out says:

    Ann Sourberry starts her new career outside politics

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  15. Cheque d'Out says:

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  16. Cheque d'Out says:

    Monbiot is a mongumental lefty green journo twat

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  22. Cheque d'Out says:

    Paul Mason appears to be legitimately insane. A hard left turbo-mong ‘journo’

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  23. Cheque d'Out says:

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  24. Cheque d'Out says:

    Well…some kind of Brexit will be done.

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  25. Cheque d'Out says:

    A veritable comedy cavalcade of cuntitude.

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  26. Cheque d'Out says:

    The enchanting Jess the Misandric Foghorn Philips last night

    Said to be a contender for next labia leader

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  27. Cheque d'Out says:

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  28. Cheque d'Out says:


    *smirk*

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  29. Cheque d'Out says:

    The leftmedia speaks
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/13/brexit-party-nigel-farage-boris-johnson-labour-leavers

    The Brexit party folded, but make no mistake: Farage won it for Johnson

    Until 11 November, many had assumed that Nigel Farage’s Brexit party was revving up for a general election. But that morning, Farage told an audience of supporters and journalists in Hartlepool that his Brexit party would be standing down in 317 Conservative-held seats to avoid splitting the leave vote. The audience was stunned; there was muted applause after he finished.

    This election will be remembered as a resounding, crushing victory for Boris Johnson’s Conservatives. Just as has happened countless times before, Farage will be written off and ridiculed for his party not winning a single seat. But that morning of 11 November was the single most important moment of the campaign. Farage won it for Johnson.

    The decision to stand down against the Tories was not an easy one. According to Ed Jankowski, who was the Brexit party’s digital strategist until the middle of November before resigning, Farage was for a long time eager to stand in every seat and not stand down – as he was being pressured to do by his erstwhile Leave.EU ally Arron Banks. Farage instead kept pushing a leave alliance that the Tories were never likely to officially agree to. But as the Brexit party started to flag in the polls, Farage lost his nerve and gave in to those not wanting to challenge Conservative seats.

    In Farage’s speech, and in the weeks following, he pledged to scoop up the leave vote in Labour heartlands and places people were unlikely to ever vote Tory. As for Jankowski, he told me that he pushed hard to get a detailed data set of Labour leavers. If he had stayed on, Jankowski says he would have pushed for the Brexit party to hone its digital content so that it made a strong emotional appeal to those voters.

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  30. Cheque d'Out says:

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  31. Farm Boy says:

    Gratuitous image

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  32. Farm Boy says:

    Others shouted that the hearing was “Stalin-esque” and “unbelievable.” Another member could be heard on a hot mic saying, “This was a really sneaky move on their part. We would never treat them like that.”

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/chairman-nadlers-integrity-is-zero-ranking-gop-house-judiciary-member-erupts-after-violation-of-trust-that-postponed-impeachment-vote

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  33. Farm Boy says:

    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi held a press conference to announce plans to proceed with articles of impeachment. But she would not say which particular charges would be brought against the president.

    Then, Pelosi lost her cool and shook her finger at a reporter who simply asked her, “Do you hate the president?”

    At that point, a furious Pelosi shouted back, “Don’t mess with me!”

    She then retreated behind the shield of her religion by lecturing the questioner that as a good Catholic, she was simply too moral to be capable of hatred

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2019/12/12/is_trump_the_only_adult_in_the_room_141938.html

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  34. Farm Boy says:

    One lesson from the UK: if the Democrats don’t stop their hard-left slide, they’ll suffer the same fate as Labour. If they don’t move off their support for mass immigration, they’re toast. Ditto the wokeness. Left Twitter is not reality.

    — Andrew Sullivan (@sullydish) December 12, 2019

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  35. Cheque d'Out says:

    Chher up Labour

    ROFLMAO

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  36. So Milk Jugs Swinson is out? Guess the public soured on her….

    [SG] The electorate have spoken, the bastards

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  37. Cheque d'Out says:

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  38. “One lesson from the UK: if the Democrats don’t stop their hard-left slide, they’ll suffer the same fate as Labour. If they don’t move off their support for mass immigration, they’re toast. Ditto the wokeness. Left Twitter is not reality.”

    I liked this even though I don’t believe it. Voting doesn’t really mean shit anymore. The people you put in office betray you. Or judges make up new laws to satisfy their own concepts of “social justice”. Or the Deep State just says FU and does whatever it wants anyway.

    Nope, voting isn’t any more meaningful than wishing on a star or throwing a coin in a well.

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  39. Cheque d'Out says:

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  40. Cill says:

    “Nope, voting isn’t any more meaningful than wishing on a star or throwing a coin in a well.”

    True, but let’s enjoy while it looks like Narcissistic Juggs Jess the Solipsistic Foghorn Phillips’ precious Labour par’y took i’ up the chuff. She is devasta’ed. Have another laugh at male suicide Jess you hate-ridden learn-nothing Moo Cow.

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  41. Cill says:

    I propose a tub for Jess the Milch Cow Phillips to stand on next election :
    “Male Lives Ma”er”

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  42. @CIll Sure, it’s natural enough to be happy when your enemies are thwarted, at least temporarily, but the bigger picture is still one of ultimate societal decay.

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/weve-dodged-the-marxist-bullet-but-i-smell-a-rat/

    I share most of these sentiments…

    Also, while the Brexit vote was definitely a victory for the people, this latest result smells to me like a vote for the liberal Establishment, draped in the mantle of faux-populism. Already we’re being told by the squishier form of Tory expert commentator – ie most commentators – that because the Conservatives won lots of working-class seats there must therefore be a realignment of Tory politics. A ‘lurch to the centre’, no less.

    Really? This is a bit like arguing that the Soviet victory at Stalingrad was a vindication of Stalin and the Socialist economic model. It tells you far more about the spin and wishful thinking of the fake-Tory media, moving in lockstep with the Cameroon-style wets who still run the roost at CCHQ, than it does about what actual working-class people either want or need.

    I felt similarly suspicious of Boris’s claim in his (admittedly jaunty and uplifting) victory speech that: ‘You the people of this country voted to be carbon neutral by 2050 and we’ll do it.’

    No, actually. People only ‘voted’ for it in the sense that they had no option not to vote for it. Labour’s green policies were even more stupid, pointless and unaffordable, as were the Greens’ (of course) and the Lib Dems’. The Brexit Party were only going to split the Brexit vote. So if you wanted a semblance of Brexit and a non-Marxist government where else were you going to go except the Conservatives, crap environmental policies notwithstanding?

    If I had to guess what it was that persuaded so many working-class voters – including many natural Labour voters – to come out for the Tories, I’d say it was two main things: one, a recognition that Boris was their best hope of finally getting the Brexit they voted for three years ago and so nearly had snatched away from them; two, an appreciation that the identity-politics-obsessed, unpatriotic, anti-Semitic, pro-immigration, free-unicorns-for-everyone Labour Party was inimical to working-class values. All that wishy-washy One Nation, high-spending, ‘we heart the NHS’ greenie stuff in the manifesto was a total irrelevance.

    Now I don’t want to be too much of a killjoy on this glorious day of triumph. Clearly, for those of us of a Right-wing persuasion, today’s result is infinitely preferable to a Marxist/national socialist coalition under Jeremy Corbyn and Nicola Sturgeon. But let’s not pretend it represents a victory for limited government, free markets and fiscal responsibility. Nor, I fear, can we be 100 per cent sure we’re going to get meaningful Brexit. There’s something very suspicious about the way the liberal Establishment has decided that Boris is its man and got so completely behind him. I smell a rat.

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  43. Cill says:

    I agree, but I’m having a laugh while I can.

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  44. General question:

    Does anyone here actually answer the phone if its not a number they recognize? If so, why? Curiosity? A brief sense of adventure?

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  45. Cill says:

    It’s easy. The Left controls the MSM and education. The MSM and education control The Narrative. Most of the people can be fooled all of the time.

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  46. Farm Boy says:

    I set my iPhone to not even ring if the number isn’t in my contacts list.

    This is a feature I appreciate

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  47. Cill says:

    “Does anyone here actually answer the phone if its not a number they recognize?”

    I don’t. FB ‘s suggestion is a good one.

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  48. Cill says:

    When I arrive in FB’s neck of the woods to invite him out on a super yacht for some fishing in the exquisite Bay of Islands, he’ll miss the call (wink).

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  49. Cheque d'Out says:

    Dominic Cummings, the super political operator, opines thusly

    After the shock of the referendum, MPs and journalists should have taken a deep breath and had a lot of self-reflection of why they misunderstood what was going on in the country, but instead a lot of people just doubled down on their own ideas and fucked it up even more.

    That’s why something like this happens against expectations.

    All these better than average educated Remainer campaigner types who have waved around for eight weeks, for the last four months and didn’t understand what was going on and didn’t understand they were driving everyone mad.

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  50. BuenaVista says:

    If I were an executive headhunter, and I probably should be, I would text and email to a target my *intention* to call at a certain time, while also requesting an alternative time if the person wishes to request it. I haven’t answered an unsolicited call from an unknown number in forever.

    I haven’t listened to a voice mail in a couple of months. My service provider only stores 20 at a time.

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  51. BuenaVista says:

    Two writers I respect at the moment — Andrew Sullivan and Mark Steyn — have known BoJo since university. Neither, so far as I can tell, trust him as far as they can throw him.

    Both admire, in some fashion, his spirit and political talents. Politics is, after all, on one level, about winning the game. Finishing a “respectable” second is … LOSING. He won the game like no one since 1935, apparently. His opponent is a disgusting human being, so I’m glad he’s now destroyed.

    It’s astonishing to an American that he did so without even revealing how many children he has; he makes (Bill) Clinton seem like a Sunday School teacher in this respect.

    I spent a couple of hours Wednesday watching a lot of Boris videos. I conclude that he’s a natural politician who loves the hurly-burly of selling his patent medicine: I saw no cynicism or faux piety. I think he likes people and likes to mix it up.

    So the three best retail politicians of my life, I think, are (Bill) Clinton, the Trumpster, and Boris. They all love people and it is clear. Since all I know about British politics I read in papers (I read the FT every morning, when I could get it, which I can’t now) it seems Boris is a “Conservative” in a sense that shopkeeper-daughter Thatcher was: she celebrated the bourgeois virtues in the nation of shopkeepers. How Boris can be that person today is somewhat ludicrous, but in all of those videos of him selling to and serving shopkeepers and laborers, I didn’t see a single arrogant moment, not a single false step. I have respect for dudes who get up in the dark and sit with strangers in the restaurant and shoot the breeze. I hope he does something meaningful with this mandate.

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  52. BuenaVista says:

    I have ridden The Cardinal from Chicago to my friend’s farm in the Virginia mountains, debarking in Staunton, Virginia. It’s an overnight train in both directions.

    American passenger trains are a joke; there was a time when I couldn’t fly because I was recovering from a pneumothorax (punctured lung etc) and I took the train everywhere. One night, while losing my mind, I calculated that we were averaging 44 mph between DC and Atlanta. (That’s mph, not kph.)

    One compensation was a full dining car. I’m not saying it was great cuisine, but it was sincerely prepared and presented by people who cared about doing a good job. Our railroad has now whacked it. You will be able to get microwaved hamburgers going forward.

    The other train I have taken a couple of times, when going west to Denver, is the California Zephyr. They still have dining, but you know it’s only a matter of time now.

    Here’s a great story on what was served on USA trains in the 1960’s. Mouth-watering charming (imo) diversion for my friends.

    https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/dining-car-food?utm_source=Atlas+Obscura+Weekly+Newsletter&utm_campaign=e3ca861f7b-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2019_12_11_Weekly&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_45471cf27f-e3ca861f7b-66143453&mc_cid=e3ca861f7b&mc_eid=06a4323d0c

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  53. thedeti says:

    always act calm and rational, always be in control of the situation, always be looking out for their best interests without advertising that you are doing so, always refrain from criticizing the ex (within limits), be the rock that the kids need. Probably, you will have custody at least every other weekend. This hopefully will be enough to show them what the normal world looks like.

    And document. Document, document, document.

    Document every interaction with the BPD. Every one. Summarize them. Make notes of what they said, direct quotes if possible. Make notes of what they did. Every outburst. Every statement. Every out of control thing they say or do. Every one. If they start losing their shit, whip out the phone and start video recording. If they object, say that it’s because you consider them a threat to you and the kids.

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  54. RichardP says:

    From one of CdO’s links:

    Well done Tory voters. We now have the far right tweeting that Britain belongs to them. That Johnson is a Nationalist and belongs to British people only. How racist we must look to the world right now. How utterly terrified must our ethnic communities feel.

    It is not clear to me whether this was tongue-in-cheek or not. Written by a female, so I’m thinking it was serious. And, if serious, another piece of evidence about the dangers of females having voting privileges.

    Last time I checked my memory from civics class, someone who comes to a country is supposed to do so only because they want to become a part of that country. The quote implies that it should be natural for a country to have a large block of folks who don’t see themselves as part of that country. If that truely is the case, why are they there? For the benefits, with none of the responsibilities of citizenship?

    When folks show up on our shores with weapons and attempt to force entry, we are justified in using lethal force to not let them gain a foothold. When they show up with no weapons, we welcome them in and then protect their “right” to start draining the system of resources by accepting government provisions for food, housing, schooling, etc. And then we elect some of them to government positions. How does any of that make any sense? If we immediately move to keep them out when the show up with weaons (an invasion), why is it OK to not move to keep them out just because they have no weapons? (I know – there are always exceptions, like political asylum, etc.)

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  55. BV’s train comments remind me of how much I enjoy the old airline ads and movies that depict a much more civilized mode of transportation. “No Highway In The Sky” being a particular favorite film.

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  56. Cill says:

    FB, the draft is done.

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  57. Farm Boy says:

    Cill, I have the Richard Jewell Movie Review coming up next. It is a bit time sensitive, so I will schedule yours after that

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  58. https://news.yahoo.com/sumatran-tiger-kills-farmer-indonesia-071205616.html

    Big cats don’t read, they act.

    A Sumatran tiger has killed an Indonesian farmer, police said Friday, in the third fatal attack by the critically endangered species in less than a month.

    The 55-year-old was set upon by the big cat at a coffee plantation in South Sumatra province on Thursday.

    Authorities said the dead man’s companion screamed in vain to warn him about the approaching predator.

    “All of sudden, the tiger pounced on the victim,” local police chief Ferry Harahap told AFP on Friday.

    The deadly attack comes just a week after a tiger killed another farmer in nearby Pagaralam.

    Tigers mauled to death another coffee farmer and seriously injured two Indonesian tourists in separate incidents in the province last month.

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  59. h0neyc0mb says:

    Are you crazy (re answering an unknown #)?

    That’s stranger danger! /S

    Puffing in a bag after being triggered .. #roflmao

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  60. Farm Boy says:

    Greta Thunberg told cheering protesters today ‘we will make sure we put world leaders against the wall’ if they fail to take urgent action on climate change.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7789463/Greta-Thunberg-arrives-Turin-Italy-star-turn-huge-climate-change-demonstration.html

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  61. Farm Boy says:

    Liz recharged after a cat nap

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  62. Farm Boy says:

    LONDON—British progressives were already down from their huge losses in Thursday’s election, as they lost pretty much every contest to the Conservatives, from Dublingtonampton and Worcestershiresauce to Hogwarts and the Shire.

    But their depression turned to sheer terror as Boris Johnson removed his long-running disguise and revealed himself to be Donald Trump.

    https://babylonbee.com/news/britons-horrified-as-boris-johnson-removes-mask-revealing-self-to-be-donald-trump

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  63. Farm Boy says:

    What kind of president bullies a teenager? @realDonaldTrump, you could learn a few things from Greta on what it means to be a leader.
    — Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) December 12, 2019

    Of course, Biden is the last person who should comment on this matter. After all, he has a long history of inappropriately touching women and girls. Whenever a girl/woman of 12 years or older comes within groping distance, the old man reaches out.

    Thinking about it, perhaps Biden is trying to get in Thunberg’s good graces so he can touch her too

    https://pjmedia.com/election/groper-joe-biden-slams-trump-for-criticizing-greta-thunberg-what-kind-of-president-bullies-a-teenager/

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  64. Farm Boy says:

    No white Anglo Saxon can ever rest if one of his own might be thinking a racist thought. Seek out the thought crimes, wherever they are! Sleep soundly, Britain.

    https://pushingrubberdownhill.com/2019/12/13/friday-hawt-chicks-links-the-you-know-you-want-to-edition/

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  65. Farm Boy says:

    WASHINGTON, D.C.—Democrats stateside were watching closely as UK election results came in Thursday. They wanted to see how the Labour Party did so they could learn from any mistakes they made.

    Well, sure enough, Labour endured a brutal massacre, losing seats they didn’t even know they had. So, Democrats vowed to learn from their obvious mistake of not going far enough to the left.

    https://babylonbee.com/news/dems-vow-not-to-repeat-labour-partys-mistake-of-not-going-far-enough-left

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  66. Farm Boy says:

    Well done Tory voters. We now have the far right tweeting that Britain belongs to them. That Johnson is a Nationalist and belongs to British people only.

    Well, yes it does. How could anybody think differently?

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  67. Cheque d'Out says:

    Yay! The toreez are quaking in their boots already

    [Ms. Abbott the most entertainment value she would have]

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  68. Cheque d'Out says:

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  70. Cheque d'Out says:

    Labour are fucked. In all these autopsies, they are studiously avoiding immigration. It seems to me, much of their loss comes from being abandoned by the white working class. While much of this could be the average Brit’s distaste for extreme politics or the anti-Semitism, I suspect a lot of it is the last gasp of the white working man fighting back against a system that hates them. It seemed telling to me, that a lot of the places that fell were places like Dudley and Wolverhampton – places that have been thoroughly “enriched”, where they get all the benefits, infest the local Councils and Public Services, get special treatment at every level yet are quite open (and unpunished) for tax evasion, child raping, jihadism etc.

    However, the politico’s intention to never talk about immigration means they are fucked, as it means they will never address the problem and so will never resolve their issues.

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  71. Cheque d'Out says:

    Still…never mind eh, Emily. Chins up

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  72. Cheque d'Out says:

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  73. Cheque d'Out says:

    Genuinely funny…labour are fucked. Laughing my arse off

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  74. horsemanbombadil says:

    How fucking stupid are they. Each day more and more.

    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-the-climate-crisis-is-like-a-world-war-so-lets-talk-about-rationing/

    I would consider giving up some liberty when the soy boys look like the soldiers in the picture and they all volunteer without possible exemptions for line combat positions.

    And every rationing system ever just creates hording and black market.
    Writer would not last a day in the world she advocates.

    The ONLY reason WWII cities remained civil was the underlying belief in the common good and the community as your extended family. Hmmm sounds a lot like Patriarchy.

    Fuck me.
    With a ration book.

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  75. horsemanbombadil says:

    “Would there be abuses and a black market? Yes, because humans will always be crafty. But Britain demonstrated in wartime that if fair-share systems are transparent and perceived as equitable, abuses and black-market activity can be minimized.”

    No Dumbass!
    Britian was enduring the Blitz and fighting what appeared to be an overwhelming enemy.
    They were not giving to a Cause they were giving to their fellow Brits.
    My supplies were going to the son of my neighbor who was literally dying for me.

    And back then Brits were still Brits.
    “WE will defend Our Island, whatever the Cost may be.”

    It was a special time for a special people.

    Every other “rationing” system is enforced with guns.
    Yugo, Poland, Zimbabwe, Uganda, Russia for a good fifty years.

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  76. horsemanbombadil says:

    True story rare for me

    In the mid seventies my polish god father masnaged to get an exit visa for his neice after many years from Soviet Poland.

    After a few days in Hamilton we took her shopping.
    We walked into a Dominion grocers.
    Walking past the fruits and vegetables as you walk in.
    She started urgently whispering something to Joe. He just shook his head.

    She freaked! As in run to the door screaming! Throws herself on the sidewalk!
    Crying buckets and mumbling in polish.

    We took her home and it was days before she would even go outside.

    Joe explained.
    “She asked if I worked for the government. She asked for my Papers.
    I told her I didn’t need them.
    She had never seen so much food in her 20 years and thought it was a store for the upper officials.
    In Poland just being caught in such a place without papers would be imprisonment and likely starvation.”

    She thought Joe was being a rebel and was waiting for days in her room for the SB to take her away. It took us weeks to explain this was normal.

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  77. Farm Boy says:

    “This was about creating an opportunity. We created that opportunity. It was a unique opportunity, a credible opportunity and he chose not to take it. I understand that.”

    https://lidblog.com/commissioner-tells-kaepernick/

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  78. Farm Boy says:


    ALBUQUERQUE, N.M.- A UNM student from Saudi Arabia is charged with unlawfully carrying a firearm.

    According to a criminal complaint, filed in federal court, Hassan Alqahtani, 28, was arrested after the FBI received a tip that Alqahtani had a “list of people who he wants to kill before he leaves the U.S.”

    https://www.kob.com/albuquerque-news/fbi-unm-student-from-saudi-arabia-had-kill-list/5578468/

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  79. Farm Boy says:

    Former First Lady and politician, 72, looked radiant at New York event last night
    Sported line-free complexion and defined cheeks while out with husband Bill
    Aesthetic expert Dr Ross Perry claims Mrs Clinton has ‘regular tweakments’
    Suggests youthful appearance down to Botox, Blepharoplasty and dermal fillers

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7789101/Hillary-Clinton-72-looks-incredibly-youthful-event-Broadway.html

    [Odd for me to say this it is,
    but like previous Hillary more I do]

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  80. Farm Boy says:

    Former First Lady and politician, 72, looked radiant

    Was it the aura of evil?

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  81. Larry G says:

    Horseman,
    “True story rare for me
    In the mid seventies my polish god father masnaged to get an exit visa for his neice after many years from Soviet Poland.
    After a few days in Hamilton we took her shopping.
    We walked into a Dominion grocers…..”

    that story rings for my Mrs. and me also, except for the freaking out part. The first time I took my wife into a western grocery store she was purely stunned and the quantity and selection of any food she could possibly imagine, and in unlimited amounts if she wished. It took me awhile to convince her that if she cleaned out an item from a shelf (in case it was limited supply) that the store would restock it. People here are totally clueless about the over abundance of the everyday things we have, and are NOT thankful or contented. I just wish every single woman in the west was forced to live in a normal 3rd world country for 1 year, that would change their fucked up attitudes real quick

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  82. Farm Boy says:

    Something tectonic has shifted. It is correct but not enough to say, as Andrew Sullivan observed, that “one lesson from the UK: if the Democrats don’t stop their hard-left slide, they’ll suffer the same fate as Labour. If they don’t move off their support for mass immigration, they’re toast. Ditto the wokeness. Left Twitter is not reality.” Beyond this, it is essential to recognize that the age of giant state projects, unelected global organizations and millennial endeavors is over.

    The componentization phase of globalization has begun. One can’t roll the world back to pre-globalization days, but for it to be sustainable, things have to be encapsulated to safeguard protected memory spaces. There is a need for standard interfaces, not “open borders.” The networked world has been overwhelmed by complexity, whether it takes the form of the breakdown of trusted authority or the dazzling profusion of “collusion.” The intellectual challenge is how to make it safe for people to deal with strangers in a connected world. The problem can be solved but it can’t be solved by people who don’t think it’s a potential problem.

    https://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/returning-the-future-to-individuals/

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  83. Farm Boy says:

    I had older relatives from Czechoslovakia visit in the late 70’s. They gave me a modest ink pen as a gift. It was a big thing for them. They told me to never say anything about this to anybody

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  84. Farm Boy says:

    I just wish every single woman in the west was forced to live in a normal 3rd world country for 1 year, that would change their fucked up attitudes real quick

    Would it? Are they impervious to such therapy?

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  85. Farm Boy says:

    Make sure your family and friends see the evidence for themselves:
    The president asked a foreign power to interfere in the 2020 election for his own political gain.
    Americans deserve free and fair elections. He must be held accountable.
    — Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) December 12, 2019

    Make sure family and friends see IG report: Clinton didn’t just invite foreign influence in 2016; she paid for it. Her team funneled Russian dossier lies to the FBI, for her political gain. Americans deserve free and fair elections. If only press would hold her accountable.
    — Kimberley Strassel (@KimStrassel) December 13, 2019

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  86. Adam says:

    I just wish every single woman in the west was forced to live in a normal 3rd world country for 1 year, that would change their fucked up attitudes real quick

    Not only would it not make a fucking difference, they would actually get worse as they would ponce around back home regaling to everyone unfortunate enough to come into contact with them how they had saved X amount of starving Africans and put them through school when all they had actually done over there was to sit on as many black cocks as possible.

    If I had a dollar for every NGO/Peace Corps/missionary girl over there who had done this then that sweet Maserati would be mine.

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  87. Adam says:

    It should be ponce, not pounce. The pouncing was done in Africa.

    [SG – fixed it for you]

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  88. jg1 says:

    This is from a Tweet about a woman who has recently soured on feminism
    Rachel Bock (AionCon Jan. 1st)
    ‏ @RachelBock9
    Feb 12

    When I was a feminist I didn’t understand: “feminists destroy the family.”

    Science progressed. I worked 70+ hr weeks, checking experiments at 3 am, in lab at Christmas….

    My friends had children.

    Now they have families and I have publications. Don’t make my mistake.
    532 replies 4,187 retweets 7,798 likes

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  89. Larry G says:

    LOL! yeah Adam, you are right! For the most part I think they are hopeless..Jeez, men must have really pissed off God to get stuck with these females

    “Not only would it not make a fucking difference, they would actually get worse as they would ponce around back home regaling to everyone unfortunate enough to come into contact with them how they had saved X amount of starving Africans and put them through school when all they had actually done over there was to sit on as many black cocks as possible.

    If I had a dollar for every NGO/Peace Corps/missionary girl over there who had done this then that sweet Maserati would be mine.

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  90. White Guy says:

    Back on topic for just a minute. If any of y’all have a friend or family member dealing with a BPD/generally crazy woman and children, subscribe to the website Our Family Wizard. $110 a year for a subscription, for us it was Court Mandated. Best $100 I ever spent during my marriage…It documents , timestamps, expense log, even has a phone feature where you can GPS the location of the journal entry. Plus it’s ALL admissible in Court!

    Official documentation of crazy.

    I was a bit slow on the uptake, I ask her something about the kids, and it was like talking to a brick wall, I’d get mad and frustrated. Once I realized that when I wrote ‘her’ a note in the Wizard, I was really writing to the Attorneys/Judge/Mediator/Jury. Put a whole new light on things.

    Story Time:
    I asked her via the Wizard a couple months back.
    “Property taxes are due at the end of the year, how do you propose we pay them?”
    (She’s currently consuming 65%+ of my take home pay)
    Her response: “I propose you pay them”
    LOL
    All documented for the Court.

    I think that one is going to bite her in the ass.

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  91. It’s too bad meat is so tasty, driving so convenient and airline travel so desirable. Because those all create large amounts of greenhouse gases and worsen the climate crisis. We know it, and some of us feel guilty getting on a plane, hopping in the car or eating burgers. But how are we to cut back when we’re not sure what level of a high-emission behaviour is sustainable – and when everyone else is doing it?

    It’s supposedly a free country up there too, right? Well, if you feel guilty about doing X, then stop doing X. Nobody is making you do X. “When everyone is else is doing it” is the lamest fucking excuse ever. You’re officially a moron and the paper that prints your garbage ideas should be shutdown for the environment’s sake.

    Some environmental activists and leaders suggest we should practise moderation, take the bus, eat veggie burgers. But voluntary measures just can’t deliver when the problem is this big and time is so short. That’s why it may be time for mandatory cutbacks on the kinds of consumption that threaten all of us.

    Ah, the truth comes out. This isn’t about the bullshit climate crisis. This is about government taking control of every aspect of our lives.

    It may be time for rationing.

    It may be time for heads on spikes. Purple hair, pink hair, blue hair; doesn’t matter. A spike makes a them all equal.They’re all for equality, right? And, spikes are re-usable. How’s that for being environmentally sound?

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  92. Once the drugs and alcohol have flattened out all the creases and folds on the inside, the outside tends to look a lot smoother.

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  93. Farm Boy says:

    This analysis doesn’t bear much scrutiny. To begin with, the desertion of Labour by its working class supporters—and its increasing popularity with more affluent, better educated voters—is a long-term trend, not an aberration. The disappearance of Labour’s traditional base isn’t just the story of this election, but one of the main themes of Britain’s post-war political history. At its height, Labour managed to assemble a coalition of university-educated liberals in London and the South and low-income voters in Britain’s industrial heartlands in the Midlands and the North—“between Hampstead and Hull,” as the saying goes. But mass immigration and globalization have driven a wedge between Labour’s middle class and working class supporters, as has Britain’s growing welfare bill and its membership of the European Union.

    https://quillette.com/2019/12/13/britains-labour-party-got-woke-and-now-its-broke/

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  94. RichardP says:

    This thread at the link below has some interesting statistics in it. Seem that some want to sue over standardized testing as a hurdle for entrance to college, because doing well on such tests requires effort that the not-priviledged don’t have to give.

    Soon they will be suing over any requirement for expending effort at all, such as attending class, reading the course material, etc. Because the transfer of knowledge from those who have it to those who don’t is too patriarchical. We should know enough already. We shouldn’t have to know how to do anything.

    Culturally Biased Standardized Testing

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  95. Cheque d'Out says:

    My son is taking part in a social experiment.
    He has to wear a Momentum top for 2 weeks to see how people will react.
    So far he has been spat at, punched and verbally abused.

    It will be interesting to see what happens when he leaves the house.

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  96. Farm Boy says:

    subscribe to the website Our Family Wizard. $110 a year for a subscription, for us it was Court Mandated

    Was it mandated because she was crazy?

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  97. Farm Boy says:

    But there is something greater going on. Her life’s work is going down the drain, as is the life’s work of everyone else in Washington. For 3 decades, they toiled to create the New World Order and make it work. It would bring peace and prosperity by eliminating nations, replacing them with multilateral commissions of experts.

    https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2019/12/noonan-struggles-with-reality.html

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  98. Farm Boy says:

    The jugs failed her. “Bad jugs!”

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  99. Farm Boy says:

    “U-Haul full of guns and bomb-making materials, they get cornered by the cops, and their first response is to shoot the cop, then drive to the nearest Kosher supermarket, popping a Hasidic pedestrian along the way, and run in and start shooting Jewish shoppers? This pretty much narrows it down to Jihadis or Nazis and, frankly, if it were Nazis, their names and faces would be all over the news while the talking heads wrung their hands about the dangers of white supremacy. So if I were going to place a bet right now…”

    https://booksbikesboomsticks.blogspot.com/2019/12/im-going-to-make-prediction.html?m=1

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  100. Farm Boy says:

    Gratuitous images

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  101. horsemanbombadil says:

    Oh sure they look cute and harmless now.

    But give it a few years and they will rip you to shreds at the slightest provication.

    The dog will be loyal and well behaved until its last breath.

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  102. Farm Boy says:

    I am proud that on austerity, corporate power, inequality and the climate emergency we have won the arguments and rewritten the terms of debate.

    We must now ensure that the working class, in all its diversity, is the driving force within our party.

    — Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) December 14, 2019

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  103. Farm Boy says:

    For our friend Moe

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  104. Farm Boy says:



    HONG KONG—Many have criticized climate activist Greta Thunberg for lecturing Western countries on their inaction on climate change when most of the pollution comes from developing countries like China and India. Well, Greta has finally gone to Hong Kong to address what she believes to be a major source of carbon emissions: the Hong Kong protesters.

    https://babylonbee.com/news/greta-makes-appearance-at-hong-kong-protest-to-lecture-freedom-fighters-on-their-carbon-footprints

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  105. Ame says:

    OP:

    patience and discipline. However, it probably only works well when the borderline is not particularly clever. Anyway, here it is: always act calm and rational, always be in control of the situation, always be looking out for their best interests without advertising that you are doing so, always refrain from criticizing the ex (within limits), be the rock that the kids need. Probably, you will have custody at least every other weekend. This hopefully will be enough to show them what the normal world looks like.

    Hopefully, they will catch on that Mom is loco. Not only that, they will see the consequences of her decisions, and decide not to be that way. It may be a tough education, but it is one that they will never forget.

    If the borderline is really clever, I am not sure what to do. Perhaps a commenter might have an idea.

    a good parent is always looking out for the best interests of the children. and they don’t need to advertise that they’re doing so; it’s just who they are. it’s what they do.

    criticizing the ex rarely ends well. however, acknowledging what they are doing is different when necessary. “Yes, he/she did that. I am so sorry. Let’s see if there’s anything we can do about that.”

    any time that kids get with a sane, stable parent is counted as good. will it be enough? time will tell. we can only give our kids what we can give them.

    Addendum by Deti:

    And document. Document, document, document.

    i agree with Deti even though i couldn’t do it. probably b/c i’m an emotional female, and i couldn’t compartmentalize it. and it broke my heart to do so … i felt like i was betraying him.

    there was one time he sent me something he wanted me to acknowledge. i cannot remember what it was now, but i refused to do so. when he picked up our girls one time, he sent them to his car then forced his way into my house to try to scare me into responding in writing to whatever it was. i was pretty shaken up, but i had the presence to ask him to leave or i’d call the police. he left. i did call the police after he left and reported it – and i hated to do so. but i did. i asked them to just keep it as a record. i am so very grateful i never had to do anything with that.

    he was very, very clever and MUCH smarter than i am and had a natural understanding of the law that i never have had. he did document every tiny thing i ever did or said, kept every medical and school record/document for our girls, documented everything they ever said or did. he was practically salivating to take me back to court, again, but there just wasn’t anything there. i wasn’t the evil person he wanted me to be to justify his choices. it was very stressful for me to know i was being monitored, but it didn’t change who i am.

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  106. Farm Boy says:

    All women consider themselves to be a high value woman because that’s what they’ve been told since birth. That they’re special, and that they’re a princess, and that they deserve the best. Deserving the best just because you happen to exist is rather solipsistic, but that’s the entire point; women today can bathe in the glorious delusion that they are the center of the universe for everyone else that comes into contact with them.

    https://pushingrubberdownhill.com/2019/12/14/nobody-uses-the-missionary-position-anymore/

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  107. Ame says:

    Jack
    1d ago
    BPD’s didn’t get enough love and attention in their childhood, so they always feel desperate for that. If you do anything that could be interpreted negatively, they will think you did it on purpose and will try to get revenge. So you always have to treat them with kindness.

    i think i’ve misued BPD as BiPolar Disorder rather than Borderline Personality Disorder … is it both?

    my Aspie-Girl was diagnosed as bipolar; now they’re diagnosing it mood disorder.

    we were told, by a psychiatrist, that their dad was probably undiagnosed bipolar. idk. but this comment of Jack’s is interesting b/c his dad was cat and mouse with his affection and love – very much using it to manipulate his wife and kids, and this caused much distress to my first Husband as the only thing he ever really wanted, but could never have, was his father’s approval.

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  108. Ame says:

    Kentucky Headhunter
    1d ago
    “One lesson from the UK: if the Democrats don’t stop their hard-left slide, they’ll suffer the same fate as Labour. If they don’t move off their support for mass immigration, they’re toast. Ditto the wokeness. Left Twitter is not reality.”

    I liked this even though I don’t believe it. Voting doesn’t really mean shit anymore. The people you put in office betray you. Or judges make up new laws to satisfy their own concepts of “social justice”. Or the Deep State just says FU and does whatever it wants anyway.

    Nope, voting isn’t any more meaningful than wishing on a star or throwing a coin in a well.

    it’s better than the alternative, and though i still don’t trust any politician, i cannot imagine where our country would be right now if hilz had won … truly a very scary thought.

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  109. Ame says:

    Kentucky Headhunter
    1d ago
    General question:

    Does anyone here actually answer the phone if its not a number they recognize? If so, why? Curiosity? A brief sense of adventure?

    nope. unless i’m expecting a call from somewhere and i’m unsure what number they’ll be calling on. my daughters – never, and they hate answering their phones anyway, so they always put my number down on most forms and documents. lol!

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  110. Ame says:

    FB – this video clip on how 1917 was made was really fascinating.

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  111. BuenaVista says:

    I have to use a cane a few times a year. I don’t like to, because I’m vain, and because I like to date women. Women, unles they’re freaks, don’t date cripples.

    Reviewing the above, have we ever encountered a divorced woman who isn’t a slavish, muh victimized female to her man? No, we have not.

    I’ve been binge watching the western series “Longmire”. Recommended. But every woman in the serial is victimized in really, really troubling and irrefutable ways. Every one, and it’s SO AWFUL! So this is not a good entertainment source if you’ve bought into the b.s. about how women are capable of making their own decisions about how to live life, and are therefore responsible for their life oucomes.

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  112. Sharkly says:

    If I had a dollar for every NGO/Peace Corps/missionary girl over there who had done this …

    My parents were in Africa in the late fifties and early sixties, and even back then they called them the “pregnant corps” because the girls were getting pregnant and the boys were getting the villagers pregnant.

    Does anyone here actually answer the phone if its not a number they recognize?

    I do! I answer it every single time without ever looking to see who it is. Because I wasn’t raised to be some ill mannered antisocial sissy-boy. I’m a man, and no matter who is on the other end, I can handle them. Plus I’m old-school and old habits die hard. I have an old flip-phone that only works as a phone, a device to make contact with people. Mine isn’t a distracting device I use to avoid making contact with other people. My company got me a smartphone which I am required to bring to work, but it stays in my lunchbox and I only use it if I have to. I still have no clue what the phone number is for it. If SHTF and these devices don’t work any longer, I’ll be giving lessons on the lost art of how to have a good mannered engaging real-life conversation. I don’t actually do anything at my job. Part of my job is to be approachable, and I take that seriously. I make sure that people don’t feel unnecessarily uncomfortable coming to me for expertise, even though my job also involves finding and documenting their failures.

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  113. Farm Boy says:


    Look at the calendar. Do you know what year it is? It’s 2018! Say it with me: two thousand eighteen. That means it’s long past time for us to get a few important things straight, once and for all: gender is a social construct, but only women can have an opinion on abortion, but you can change your gender if you want, but oh my goodness the room is spinning somebody please send help right away

    https://babylonbee.com/news/opinion-gender-social-construct-women-can-opinion-abortion-can-change-gender-want-oh-wow-room-spinning-please-send-help

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  114. Cheque d'Out says:

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  115. Cheque d'Out says:

    The lovely insane Laurie Penny

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  116. Cheque d'Out says:

    [Really say that she did?]

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  117. Cheque d'Out says:

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  118. Farm Boy says:

    The Patriarchy now seems to be evil also

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  119. @BV

    I remember liking the first season of Longmire well enough, but then it kinda slid downhill pretty quickly for me.

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  120. White Guy says:

    Farm Boy, it was put in there by the Court Mediator, I think she saw how things were going and all the attorney’s agreed that this was a good direction. Everything else about mediation was a GIANT TUBE JOB on me.

    On a better note, last night was our company Christmas party, and I mixed it up good and proper. Especially without crazy, I got asked by the senior VP a couple of months ago to take pictures at the shindig, and it was a blast. Corporate parties viewed through a red pill lens make for some amazing entertainment.

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  121. Farm Boy says:

    Corporate parties viewed through a red pill lens make for some amazing entertainment.

    That might be something for a guest post

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  122. Farm Boy says:

    all the attorney’s agreed that this was a good direction

    TBH, I wonder why her attorney would go for that. It would just document her craziness. Perhaps craziness doesn’t matter any more in legal matters

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  123. White Guy says:

    I took some personal notes for self reflection on the party, let me see if I can translate that into something coherent.

    I’m sure her attorney agreed with it because I was very bad ‘red pill’ man. As you know, BPD’s can charm the pants off of people on the first meeting, she’s only visited with her attorney once or twice, so the was the typical narrative and ‘team women’ /man bad, was the order of the day.

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  124. BuenaVista says:

    KHH,

    On Longmire:

    It’s not “great”, but it does improve in years 5-6. There’s the “all women are powerful truth-tellers and boy howdy are their souls victimized grievously” problem. But the men are more complicated than in the early seasons.

    One thing I notice in a lot of these contemporary TV dramas is how they can’t advance a storyline without cell phones ringing. It almost becomes a drinking game. Scene starts — phone rings! I do consider that half-assed. Maybe quarter-assed. Extremely lazy writing.

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