Elite, But Not Elite


The Most Glorious Patriarch linked to this,

Many of them are not really “elite” other than on paper, but they regard “non-elite” jobs as beneath them. Think of all the baristas with Cultural Anthropology degrees, the wannabe attorneys working as civil servants or for charities; the numerous graduates doing The Office-type tedious jobs. This breeds hatred and conflict among the more educated…

There are just so many things to consider here.  Let us get some of them out of the way.  Universities don’t really teach critical thinking any more (with a few exceptions).  There is grade inflation.  There are lots of useless degrees, often ending in studies.  And so on. Not a pretty sight.

Women seem to be the most prone to drinking the Kool-aid, to believing that they and their useless degrees, along with their poor thinking skills entitle them to careers, power, etc.   There is the esteem that is shoved down their thought all though K-12, then their attractiveness to men really boosts their ego.  They very often really believe their own BS.  In short, many of these graduates can’t think their way out a paper bag.

Men, on the other hand, are less prone to all of this.  They know that they are judged on performance.  Many realize that the degrees to get are the ones that lead to money, often STEM.  Though, on the other hand, lots of men have become feminized, and drink the same Kool-aid as the women do.

What to do?  The market is kinda signaling  that many of these people are not particularly useful.  Perhaps some will re-evaluate the entire situation.  We can only hope.

As for those that are still children; parents educate your children to realize that  a university education is a tricky thing.  You need to come out of the joint with skills that are useful to an employer.  It starts with the ability to think straight, and typically ends with a useful skill (e.g. learn to code)

For those older, and with out introspection, maybe point out their silliness over Thanksgiving diner.  You might save on Christmas presents.

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97 comments on “Elite, But Not Elite
  1. Farm Boy says:

    Our Glorious Patriarch

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  2. Sharkly says:

    Unfortunately you can’t teach intelligence into a dull mind, and the intelligent can just about teach themselves most everything. So, since college ain’t the “Good Ol’ Boy Network” that it once was, offering a network of opportunity and advancement. Why go? If you’re intelligent you don’t really need it, and if you’re stupid it won’t help you any more than a bogus diploma would.

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  3. earl says:

    Though, on the other hand, lots of men have become feminized, and drink the same Kool-aid as the women do.

    Those men are called British cigarettes.

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  4. Cheque d'Out says:

    Not going well for Jugs Swineson

    The more people see and hear her, the less they like her.

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  5. Farm Boy says:

    So how are her boobs holding up?

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  6. Farm Boy says:

    First, we did not rob you of your childhood or of your dreams. You are the legatee of a magnificent technological civilization which my generation and the one before it and several others preceding it all the way to the Industrial Revolution and the Renaissance, bequeathed to you. That growth-driven, capitalist technological civilization has created the conditions for you to harangue us over our betrayal. It is a civilization that eradicated diseases such as small pox from the word, and that lifted millions out of abject poverty in a universe you think is dying and decaying. It assured you a life expectancy that exceeded that of your ancestors. Most likely by focusing on economic growth which you demonize, and scientific advancement, that civilization will further enhance a robust quality of life and health for your descendants.

    Here is a hard truth to ponder, Greta: if the great producers of this world whom you excoriate were to withdraw their productivity, wealth and talents—in short—their minds from the world today, your generation would simply perish. Why? Because as children you have done nothing as yet, with your lives besides being born.

    https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2019/11/open-letter-greta-thunberg-jason-d-hill

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  7. Cheque d'Out says:

    I’ve not seen that comparison made before, but…

    …it’s a good one

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  8. Must…apply…antidote…quickly…

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  9. Cheque d'Out says:

    Smart kitties

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  10. From the OP link:

    But these could only last for so long and, claims Turchin, real wages have effectively been in decline since about the year 2000. And as this has happened, the elites have got richer and larger. For example, the percentage of the USA population worth 1 million dollars (in 1995 dollars) has grown from 2.9% to 6.3% between 1983 and 2007. So there is growing economic polarization.

    It doesn’t seem to me that more than doubling the number of millionaires would be a sign of growing economic “polarization”. In fact it would seem to be the opposite. Now, wealth concentration is a statistic that I’m interested in.

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  11. BuenaVista says:

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  12. I will actually agree that it is men’s “fault” that men are not going to see her shitty movie.

    https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/elizabeth-banks-charlies-angels-box-office-bomb

    “Look, people (she means men) have to buy tickets to this movie too. This movie has to make money,” Banks told the Sun. “If this movie doesn’t make money it reinforces a stereotype in Hollywood that men don’t go see women do action movies.”

    The “Hunger Games” actress seemed to dismiss the box office success of “Captain Marvel,” the Brie Larson-led Marvel film that earned $1.1 billion worldwide earlier this year, as well as “Wonder Woman,” which grossed $821 million in 2017, because they belonged to a “male genre.”

    Comparatively, the first “Charlie’s Angels” film, which starred Drew Barrymore, Cameron Diaz, and Lucy Liu, made a $40 million box office weekend debut in 2000 and the sequel, “Charlie’s Angels: Full Throttle” grossed $37 million in 2003, according to Box Office Mojo.

    Men did go see Gal Gadot in WW because she is hot. They were OK with the movie over-all because it was an OK movie overall.

    They went to see Captain Marvel because of MCU tie-in. They didn’t like the movie, because shitty movie.

    Making a Charlie’s Angels movie without fun, hot chicks is kinda like opening a meatless butcher shop. Yeah, good luck with that.

    $40 million in 2000 is worth $59 million today. So her $8.6 million is actually A LOT worse than would first appear.

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  13. BuenaVista says:

    The “millionaire ratio”, contrasting 1983 and 1995 is misleading, as his premise understates inflation. Actual (inflation-adjusted) growth was about 50% — significant, but not the 100+% he’s claiming.

    Also, that was a period of massive productivity improvement, which for many was thoroughly democratized.

    If I were to make his argument, I would choose the globalist concentration of private wealth, 2000-Present, and use a far higher threshold for comparison. The quantitative finance and tech oligarchs, as a class, comprise a very, very recent phenomenon.

    Nifty calculator:

    https://www.in2013dollars.com/1983-dollars-in-1995?amount=100

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  14. BuenaVista says:

    The gender (or any of the other intersectionality victim classes) morality tales are particularly boring because they seem to be made by buzzword-compliant morons like Banks. Or the truly cynical males of the movie apparat, who believe the Mencken rule: “It’s impossible to understate the intelligence of the average American.”

    Just as I have to laugh at feminismo icon Banks promoting her pic in a bra-cum-dress, showing off her bolt-ons, I am not spending money to watch 120 pound girls make fists with their pwetty wittle hands and evince, “model” Sister Teamwork.

    I’d say Tarentino got the female action movie pretty well sorted out in Kill Bill 1&2. At least there was some actual, if hallucinagenic, violence. But Tarentino is not trying to a woke Social Realist, which allows him to have Brad Pitt throw the little Bruce Lee through a car door.

    And if Keanu Reeves wants to marry his mom, that’s fine with me, but if the next John Wick flick has a septuagenarian love interest, because “It’s time!”, they’ll have successfully wiped out that audience, also.

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  15. BuenaVista says:

    “… and the intelligent can just about teach themselves most everything.”

    My father insisted I have a classical liberal arts education, which offered: The virtues of learning how to learn; learning how to think critically; stretched me way outside my comfort zone and forced me to confront ideas, human experience and the reality that many people were ahead of me on the cognitive ability ladder; taught me to interact with women (and men) as an adult, which in my case was massively difficult; the unique joys of discovery available only to those with a capacity for focus and discipline; and on and on.

    I still believe in those qualities and attempted to pass them along to my children, though it’s hard to credit today’s liberal arts culture as highly, because Bimbo Activists like Eliz. Banks populate even the best of schools.

    Put another way, an educated person can learn Accounting 101 (double-entry accounting, woo-woo!) in a weekend. An uneducated person will be drowning trying to teach himself old English in order to read Beowulf; he’ll never have the opportunity to simultaneously read French literature in the original, under the direction of a Holocaust survivor (Mons. Mathis Sykowski).

    I agree with Sharkly that going to college to learn to appreciate intersectional politics is worth less than a job digging ditches — with a shovel, not a backhoe — but disagree that the classical education that constructed Western Civilization has reached its Sell-By date.

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  16. Farm Boy says:

    Democrats do not want the public to know. And in that, their position is familiar to anyone who has watched Washington for the last two years: The Democrats’ determination to cut off questions about the origins of the Trump-Ukraine investigation is strikingly similar to their determination to cut off questions about the origins of the Trump-Russia investigation. In both cases, they fought hard to keep secret the origins of investigations that have shaken the nation, deeply divided the electorate, and affected the future of the presidency.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/democrats-dont-want-public-to-know-origins-of-ukraine-probe-like-they-didnt-want-public-to-know-origins-of-russia-probe

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  17. Farm Boy says:

    Pelosi issues rebuttal to GOP talking point in Dear Colleague letter: “The weak response to these hearings has been, ‘Let the election decide.’ That dangerous position only adds to the urgency of our action, because POTUS is jeopardizing the integrity of the 2020 elections.”

    — Jacqueline Alemany (@JaxAlemany) November 18, 2019

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  18. Farm Boy says:

    Erdogan: “Our God commands us to be violent to the kuffar”

    The word kuffar/kafir shows the common political treatment of Christian, Jew, Hindu, Buddhist, animist, atheist and humanist.
    It should be used instead of ‘unbeliever,’ a neutral term. The Koran defines the kafir and kafir is not a neutral word.

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/24727

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  19. Farm Boy says:

    “His face was so scary because he didn’t say a thing,” Van Tassel told Pinsky. “I thought I was going to die. I thought I was going to get raped or stabbed.”

    “He pulled me out by my shirt into the street, and he proceeded to pour what looked like a bucket that you wash your floor with, but on the outside it looked like an old Folger’s can,” Van Tassel recalled. “It was full of his feces, and it was liquid … I say hot because it felt hot on my face … he kept pouring and pouring it on me, and then he ran away.”

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/dr-drew-talks-to-woman-doused-with-hot-diarrhea-warns-of-more-random-attacks-as-homeless-deteriorate-on-l-a-streets

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  20. Farm Boy says:

    But wait! It gets better! After she shut down her club, she followed her customers and comics to the bar across the street and continued to lecture them there about how doubleplusungood they are and why she’s a virtuous arbiter of all that is appropriately funny.

    I’m sure they appreciated being scolded at a new venue by the same weirdo who kicked them out of the last venue they were in.

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/woke-scold-comedy-club-owner-shuts-down-show-over-misogynist-stand-up-comics/

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  21. Farm Boy says:

    WASHINGTON, D.C.—The impeachment hearings have been thrown into chaos after President Trump announced that he supports impeachment, forcing Democrats to oppose their own impeachment inquiry.

    https://babylonbee.com/news/in-genius-move-trump-supports-impeachment-forcing-democrats-to-oppose-it

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  22. Pitch Meeting guy should be able to have some fun with Charlie’s Angels 2019.

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  23. Farm Boy says:

    The Department of Justice released documents Monday outlining a slew of “security violations” and flagrantly “unprofessional conduct” by anti-Trump ex-FBI agent Peter Strzok — including his alleged practice of keeping sensitive FBI documents on his unsecured personal electronic devices, even as his wife gained access to his cellphone and discovered evidence that he was having an affair with former FBI attorney Lisa Page.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/doj-seeks-to-dismiss-strzoks-lawsuit-claiming-he-was-denied-due-process

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  24. Farm Boy says:

    Petty

    President Obama’s aides taunted the incoming Trump administration in 2017 by leaving notes around the White House that said, “You will fail,” Trump’s press secretary said Tuesday.

    https://nypost.com/2019/11/19/obama-aides-allegedly-left-you-will-fail-notes-for-trump-white-house-staffers/

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  25. Farm Boy says:


    In an inexplicable move, Sprite has released a new commercial that has nothing to do with soda and everything to do with force-feeding the public transgender theology dressed up as love and acceptance. What this has to do with quenching thirst, I have no idea

    https://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/creepy-new-sprite-commercial-sells-transgenderism-and-breast-binding-not-soda/

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  26. Farm Boy says:

    This is a textbook case of what I’ve termed conservative militant cluelessness. It is a bizarre conservative impulse to not only deny reality, but to actively work in the service of SJWs to ensure that others do as well. The role of conservatives has become muffling any alarm that would otherwise be raised as SJWs annihilate our culture. This sickness goes far beyond mere inaction in the face of evil, as the impulse is an active one, to prevent any possible action (reaction) by others.

    https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2019/11/19/chick-fil-a-and-conservative-militant-cluelessness/

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  27. Farm Boy says:

    There’s no one way to be a man.

    Men who get their periods are men.

    Men who get pregnant and give birth are men.

    Trans and non-binary men belong.#InternationalMensDay

    — ACLU (@ACLU) November 19, 2019

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  28. Farm Boy says:

    SACRAMENTO, CA—California’s state government has announced it will agree to build a wall as President Trump has been pushing for, except this wall will keep people in, not out.

    https://babylonbee.com/news/california-builds-wall-to-stop-people-from-leaving

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  29. earl says:

    Or…results of being sexually abused as a child.

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  30. Farm Boy says:

    Swedish authorities have discontinued an investigation into a rape allegation against the WikiLeaks founder, Julian Assange, after a review of the evidence.

    The deputy chief prosecutor, Eva-Marie Persson, said the complainant’s evidence was deemed credible and reliable, but that after nearly a decade, witnesses’ memories had faded.

    https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/nov/19/sweden-drops-julian-assange-investigation

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  31. Farm Boy says:

    The big takeaway from Impeachment Theater is that American voters have influence over a much smaller portion of the federal government than they believed. Washington is a feudal bureaucratic empire with a small suggestion box.

    Last week American voters were introduced to the idea that the elected President of the United States can be accused of “undermining” foreign policy determined by the permanent bureaucracy, which spends billions of our tax dollars but is not even slightly interested in our input.

    We’ve been told top bureaucrats who supposedly serve at the pleasure of the president are actually entitled to their jobs and firing them is a crime, with the president presumed guilty unless he can prove he had an acceptable reason for terminating or reassigning them.

    We’ve learned that Made Men of the bureaucratic empire and its political wing, the Democrat Party, cannot be investigated for corruption unless the most exquisite preliminary rituals are followed and the investigators can demonstrate the absolute purity of their intentions.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Doc_0/status/1196779710786740230?s=20

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  32. Farm Boy says:

    Stevens emphasizes the need for intelligence to overcome solipsism, and I’ll agree that it certainly makes it easier, but how much of self-actualization is dependent on intelligence? I think it is not so simple to presume intelligence as the key element of spiritual enlightenment. Discernment and wisdom are likely to be more significant vectors than merely intelligence.

    https://sigmaframe.wordpress.com/2019/11/19/the-evils-of-solipsism/

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  33. Farm Boy says:

    The game is played like this: morons clutching some piece of paper from a higher institution of brainwashing know just enough to be dangerous

    https://pushingrubberdownhill.com/2019/11/19/your-backyard-is-an-endangered-ecosystem/

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  34. Ame says:

    i found out some interesting info today:

    ~ when talking to an autism specialist, she told us that 80% of autists have some form of sleep disorder or disordered sleeping. my Aspie-Girl has had sleep issues since birth that caused all kinds of problems with the public school system. for some reason i never made the connection to her autism.

    ~ when talking to my Dad i found out i was born at Walter Reed. i found that little tidbit interesting.

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  35. RichardP says:

    Ame – If you’ve said whether your dad was in the service, I either missed it or have forgotten. So – was he in the service? Which branch? Where stationed in the D.C. area? (But only if you are comfortable revealing this info.)

    Seems that your decision to take the chance and talk to your dad was a good one.

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  36. Cheque d'Out says:

    Has been recommended to me

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  37. Farm Boy says:

    While both experts think the choice — and it is a choice — to use female pronouns is significant (Cohen in particular calls it a “bold move”), that doesn’t mean it comes without risk. According to Hill, the fact that language is so tied to identity means when someone challenges language patterns, it can result in a backlash. “There’s an expectation that language is somehow neutral, and that you should just use the words the way they’re supposed to be used,” Hill says. Changing that up can make people feel uncomfortable, or alienated in ways they can’t or won’t admit. “The backlash — I could see people tapping into old, ‘uppity feminist’ stereotypes,” she says, or breaking out accusations of “man-hating.”

    https://www.elitedaily.com/p/heres-why-kamala-harris-using-female-pronouns-about-the-president-is-a-huge-deal-19350747

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  38. https://www.takimag.com/article/when-the-future-was-faster/

    From Steve Sailer’s Ford v. Ferrari review above:

    Picture this: …men dominate the screen for 98% of the time, by my unofficial count. They are in the executive suites at Ford and Ferrari, in the workshops and garages in Venice, on the track out at Willow Springs Raceway. (And when I say men, I mean white, straight men.)

    Well, yeah, the Ford that went 218 mph way back in 1965 was built by white, straight men.

    Guilty as charged.”

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  39. Farm Boy says:

    Being myself a person of decided pallor, and increasingly cynical about current social-justice principles being inflicted on captive campus audiences at every level from kindergarten on up through graduate school, I am over in a corner snickering uncontrollably about the current mass freak-out in educational circles over the appearance of anonymous and unsigned posters with the simple declaration that “It’s OK to be White.” No, seriously – these things are apparently “hate-filled … sick and outrageous behavior … revolting actions,” and those found to have participated in distributing the flyers, “subject to the severest disciplinary actions, including dismissal as well as possible civil and criminal actions.”

    https://chicagoboyz.net/archives/61120.html

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  40. Farm Boy says:

    Many Trump supporters like him because he fights. He fights for them and he fights for America. And some of the time he doesn’t fight like a gentleman. That’s the same thing that a lot of Republicans who detest Trump really really really dislike

    https://www.thenewneo.com/2019/11/19/gentlemen-and-gentlewomen-vs-trump/

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  41. Farm Boy says:

    [An appealing bunch they are not]

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  42. Farm Boy says:

    There’s a growing certainty among freedom-minded people of the West that our public intellectuals and governing institutions find more in common with the command-and-control leadership of the former Soviet Union than with the ideas of Lech Walesa or Václav Havel. Whereas we see Poland’s Solidarity uprising and Czechoslovakia’s Velvet Revolution as fraternal moments to the signings of the Magna Carta and Declaration of Independence, modern public intellectuals see vulgar populism, motivated by tribal spirits (with a sprinkling of Russian propaganda thrown in).

    Everywhere we look, public intellectuals are advocating for restrictions on free speech and criminalization of free expression. Being confronted with ideas that conflict with their own, public intellectuals see no choice but to silence the public

    https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/11/freedom_is_on_the_march_and_the_elites_cant_stand_it.html

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  43. Farm Boy says:

    “I don’t think people traditionally wanna be scolded,” he said. The film’s very first line of dialogue, delivered by a sexually ambiguous Kristen Stewart, is a lecture of sorts.

    “I think women can do anything,” Stewart’s character says in the film’s opening sequence.

    https://www.hollywoodintoto.com/dennis-miller-charlies-angels-woke-scolded/

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  44. Ame says:

    Spawny – this is hilarious! i showed it to my girls, and they both pointed at me and laughed!

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  45. Ame says:

    okay … i didn’t call them ‘little shi!’ lol!

    but my brother does call his wife and daughter ‘big shi!’ and ‘little shi!’

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  46. Ame says:

    Richard – sent you an email.

    and … yes … i am very much enjoying getting to know my Dad. there have been a few ‘glitches,’ but i’ve faced them directly … i guess forms of shi! tests, but trust is a big issue and may never be fully granted. however, i am very grateful for this time. we talk on the phone multiple times a week. he’s an intelligent man and is easy to have intelligent conversations with 🙂

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  47. Stephanie says:

    From a recent MLM woman rant on facebook…. read this and thought y’all would enjoy it 😀 😛

    “Something has been really bothering me lately. Pretty much everyone who’s my fb friend knows that I am involved in an MLM. I am well aware of the stigma that comes with them- the whole pyramid scheme of things.

    I have also been in business for myself and failed- my family lost money because I could not make more than what it cost for me to be in business.
    When I was little I used to sell candy and snacks to my peers- so I’ve always been very ‘entrepreneurial’.

    The thing is this… you don’t want to sell anything, that’s fine. But talking smack about those who do is rude and just shows your inability to understand why some of us do it.
    I sell stuff because I need money. It’s plain and simple. I wish I could say it’s because of the sisterhood or because I learned some lesson (at some point, these were my motivators) but as I’ve learned to stand on my own two feet more I can honestly tell you that it’s because it brings additional money into my household.

    I’m very privileged to have a spouse who has a good job, so that brings me to my next point- privilege.

    Some of you don’t have the need to come up with a side gig and that’s awesome.
    Good for you!

    But if you did, I would hope that you could come up with an amazing idea, a way to monetize your talents and interests; but even if your idea is gold, you still have to share it. And that’s the hard part!

    I am surrounded by people (in person and in social media) who earn a living by doing just that- monetizing their time and interests. By being an influence to those around them; and I ask- what is wrong with that???

    I also understand that the way MLM’s are built make lots of people uncomfortable and that these models have also provided plenty of controversy (businesses going under and therefore leaving people with unsellable products) but it happens in the regular work sector too. People are let go to meet profitable numbers, stores close and companies file for bankruptcy- it happens all the time.

    Bringing an acquaintance to work with you can help you earn a bonus- how is that different? Have you ever looked into how real estate brokerage works? Or law offices?
    Is being in an MLM something only naive people do? Maybe, and maybe I’m naive- but I think of it as a mini franchise. I own a little license to be able to sell a product and then I make a portion of the sale.

    Do I love every product? Nope- which is why I think I’ve gained the trust of many of you.
    Do I agree with every move the company takes? Nope, but I bet you don’t agree with everything your CEO or CFO decides in some office you’ve never been to.
    Will I be doing this forever? Who knows! I just know that it serves its purpose to my family and to many friends who have chosen to do this with me.

    I have lots of friends from lots of different backgrounds. Some of you vacation in the Maldives and that’s so awesome.

    Some others are struggling- and please know I will never judge you for having less than.

    Because I’m trying too!

    But please know this- I will do whatever it takes for my family and to ease my husband’s financial load- and if that bothers you 🤷🏻‍♀️ that says more about you than me.
    I would rather be surrounded by those who write their dreams and turn that into their goals list than those who criticize just because they have zero need to have a side gig.

    This is how I choose to live:
    Do no harm- may your words be kind. May your messages be encouraging. May your life improve the lives of those around you! May you always remember how connected we all are. When you win, everyone wins.”

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  48. Stephanie says:

    I feel sorry them… it takes some strong awkward social skills to be constantly asking your friends over to spend time with them, only to try to get them to support you financially by buying your stuff.

    [Easier to just get a job at Walmart it would be?]

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  49. RichardP says:

    Ame – received and responded.

    I think you will find “getting to know my dad” invaluable after he is gone. You are creating memories / gleaning information maybe previously unknown that you won’t be able to do once he is gone. That is valuable all by itself, even if you can never fully grant the trust thing.

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  50. Cheque d'Out says:

    Must dig out my DVDs

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  51. Farm Boy says:

    That MLM lady sure takes a lot of words to say very little.

    I wonder if it worth tainting your relationship with all your friends just for a few extra bucks

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  52. Farm Boy says:

    An indictment drawn up by Ukraine’s Office of the Prosecutor General against Burisma owner Nikolai Zlochevsky claims that Hunter Biden and his partners received $16.5 million for their ‘services’ – according to Ukrainian MP Alexander Dubinsky of the ruling Servant of the People Party.

    “The son of Vice-President Joe Biden was receiving payment for his services, with money raised through criminal means and money laundering,” he then said, adding “Biden received money that did not come from the company’s successful operation but rather from money stolen from citizens.”

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukrainian-indictment-reveals-hunter-biden-group-made-165-million-mp

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  53. Farm Boy says:

    He was probably humiliated

    Attorneys for the former “Empire” actor filed a response Tuesday to Chicago’s lawsuit in federal court. They also filed a counterclaim against the city, saying Smollett was the victim of a malicious prosecution that caused humiliation and extreme distress.

    https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/jussie-smollett-chicago-malicious-prosecution

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  54. Cheque d'Out says:

    A joke. But not very far from the levels of deceit that the lib Dems are famed for in their election material

    Widely considered the least honest

    [So the boobs deceitful they are?]

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  55. Cheque d'Out says:

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  56. Cheque d'Out says:

    [Liz that would be?]

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  57. I’m not too familiar with MLMs, but isn’t it just the “greater fool” theory on an endless rinse and repeat cycle?

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  58. Farm Boy says:

    U.S.—A new poll released Wednesday revealed that the majority of the nation want impeachment hearings to continue as long as possible so that Congress will be too busy to meddle with our lives.

    https://babylonbee.com/news/poll-majority-want-impeachment-hearings-to-continue-as-long-as-possible

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  59. Farm Boy says:

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  60. Ame says:

    The Arkansas Democrat-Gazette posted a story early this afternoon about the DNA test-related court filing. Soon after, the Trump campaign tweeted out a link to the article, adding three words of its own: “Congratulations, Joe Biden!”

    Hunter Biden, who initially denied having sexual relations with Roberts, eventually agreed to take a DNA test, according to documents filed by Roberts’ attorney, Clint Lancaster.

    LOLOL!!!

    Trump’s congrats! lol!

    https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2019/nov/20/dna-test-shows-hunter-biden-father-arkansas-womans/

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  61. Larry G says:

    I had to look up MLM. I thought that “business model” of selling useless shit to your friends went out with the Walkman….guess not

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  62. Liz says:

    Stephanie: I feel sorry them… it takes some strong awkward social skills to be constantly asking your friends over to spend time with them, only to try to get them to support you financially by buying your stuff.

    I kind of feel sorry for them too.
    But not as sorry as I feel for myself for being subjected to them.

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  63. Liz says:

    I had to look up MLM. I thought that “business model” of selling useless shit to your friends went out with the Walkman….guess not

    I only wish.
    Social media has made it more a “thing” than ever.

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  64. Liz says:

    One of our friends (a very good family, homeschooled and all that, three really great boys) has some homeopathic MLM. I can’t even remember the name…at any rate, she just posted on FB that she was only one point away from winning a trip to Hawaii (but she’ll get a years worth of free nutrient drink or some such). So….I didn’t buy anything from her, guess I’m the holdup.
    Do folks really not understand why this is socially awkward?
    MLMs have turned, and are turning, members of the community into social irritants.

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  65. Larry G says:

    Maybe the popularity of MLMs is an easy way to supplement the barista wages these lucky Women’s Studies 4 year degree holders have

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  66. Liz says:

    I don’t know, Larry, in my experience they draw from the stay at home mom crowd.
    I don’t remember anyone at work trying to peddle this crap on me.

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  67. Liz says:

    Just for therapeutic catharsis, my response to the MLM “letter”
    When I was little I used to sell candy and snacks to my peers- so I’ve always been very ‘entrepreneurial’.

    I hate you already.

    The thing is this… you don’t want to sell anything, that’s fine. But talking smack about those who do is rude and just shows your inability to understand why some of us do it.
    I sell stuff because I need money. It’s plain and simple. I wish I could say it’s because of the sisterhood or because I learned some lesson (at some point, these were my motivators) but as I’ve learned to stand on my own two feet more I can honestly tell you that it’s because it brings additional money into my household.

    But you say in the next sentence your spouse has a good job.
    So you don’t really need money, you need better budgeting skills.

    I’m very privileged to have a spouse who has a good job, so that brings me to my next point- privilege.
    Indeed.

    Some of you don’t have the need to come up with a side gig and that’s awesome.
    Good for you! But if you did, I would hope that you could come up with an amazing idea, a way to monetize your talents and interests; but even if your idea is gold, you still have to share it. And that’s the hard part!

    Ideas that are “gold” typically find buyers without having to resort to sponging off family and friends. Like, total strangers want “gold”…by contrast to, say, a 50 dollar tube of “stay-on” lipstick I could buy at Target for 3 dollars.

    I am surrounded by people (in person and in social media) who earn a living by doing just that- monetizing their time and interests. By being an influence to those around them; and I ask- what is wrong with that???
    See above. Start an etsy page.

    I also understand that the way MLM’s are built make lots of people uncomfortable and that these models have also provided plenty of controversy (businesses going under and therefore leaving people with unsellable products) but it happens in the regular work sector too. People are let go to meet profitable numbers, stores close and companies file for bankruptcy- it happens all the time.
    Are you trying to convince yourself or everyone else? I guess this is your pitch for others to sign on to your MLM scam? Oh boy…hold me back.

    Bringing an acquaintance to work with you can help you earn a bonus- how is that different?
    I am unfamiliar with the “bring an acquaintance to work with you” style business model. Is it like take your kid to work day?

    Have you ever looked into how real estate brokerage works? Or law offices?
    I have never been approached to join a real estate brokerage or law office as a “great business opportunity” nor has anyone asked me to come to their home for a party so I could invest in their real estate scam or law firm. I suppose those “timeshare” things are a good comparison. Or get rich quick investment “opportunities” in speculation or some such. But those are also hateful and don’t help your argument in any way.

    Is being in an MLM something only naive people do?
    Yes, naive people with some weird form of anti-empathetic social cluelessness.

    Maybe, and maybe I’m naive- but I think of it as a mini franchise.
    Of course you do.

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  68. Liz says:

    “I am surrounded by people (in person and in social media) who earn a living by doing just that- monetizing their time and interests. By being an influence to those around them; and I ask- what is wrong with that???”
    See above. Start an etsy page.

    Just to continue on my rant (this is the last, promise),
    We had a pilot who was really good at woodworking, and he made some plane shaped clocks/bottle openers and so forth. At first he made them for his home, and as gifts…but word got around and so many people wanted to pay him to make them, he started and etsy page.
    Pretty soon he had the kids making them too and they bought a laser etcher and the whole garage is a woodshop. The local military installation paid him to make some large wood planes for their club.
    That’s how it’s done if you have a product people want.
    You don’t need to invite people over for “parties” to get “points” or strong-arm folks you call friends to buy into your “business opportunity”.
    [/rant]

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  69. Stephanie says:

    “We had a pilot who was really good at woodworking, and he made some plane shaped clocks/bottle openers and so forth. At first he made them for his home, and as gifts…but word got around and so many people wanted to pay him to make them, he started and etsy page.
    Pretty soon he had the kids making them too and they bought a laser etcher and the whole garage is a woodshop.”

    Yes! We know a guy who works with my husband who does incredible wood-working designs for police and firefighters and got really popular as people either saw them or heard about them.

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  70. BuenaVista says:

    This is an example of what I consider a MLM scheme — but the individual would *never* stoop to such mundane, plebian activities as MLM. So she sells curios that she collects from her solo vacations in enviable, new-agey spots, and her social network buys a few because they envy her. Ergo, social (status, sensibility, taste-making) income, rather than dough, via social media marketing..

    Oh, I can’t link to it, I see, she doxes herself (the woman is the brand here, not the Tupperware or whatever).

    ***

    You’re supposed to tithe, really, when someone says you must buy her $50 lipstick that stays affixed even when you dive straight into the HOA swimming pool!

    You’re supposed to tithe if you want to be included in the in-group that meets at the coffee shop while every other poor unfortunate female is working, at, like, a job.

    Some people tithe at church, others borrow the practice for the rec room, others make a quick trip through the MacBook Pro and drop some plastic.

    ***

    My male MLM anecdote, as anecdotes are me: We had dinner once with close friends (the hostess is my daughters godmother). The husband designs museums. RISD grads both, tony. I had a job at the time that involved wearing a badge while we were trying to get a Hughes 601-bus satellite (a monstrous pig of a thing the size of a schoolbus) into geostationary orbit for a nifty business plan. (We were the crazy people who said that wireless telephony and data should be ubiquitous. I’m so old this was a minority opinion.)

    Our host couple invited some so-called rich trust-funders from Texas who were trying to bust into the Virginia horse country trust-funder set. I think it was the first time I looked at someone and later asked my wife, “Those tits cannot possibly be real, can they?”

    Anyway, halfway through dinner, the husband starts pitching us his aces must-have water filtration technology. I have always been very naive about social matters but even I thought he must be insane to be ruining this dinner by pitching Tupperware. I was working 100 hours a week at the time and I was drinking wine and I laughed openly at the idea that I was going to sell water filtration “technology”, because it would make the asshole like me more.

    Ten years later, if I got home early, I would answer the phone and … there he would be, asking for my wife. I had no idea why he was calling at 7 p.m. See above, naivete. Anyway, whenever The Liz mentions MLM, I see good ol’ Bill’s face. And I see that of his ex-wife, who, I learned as a newly single man, had the misfortune of getting Gen. 1, Beta bolt-ons.

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  71. RichardP says:

    Bringing an acquaintance to work with you can help you earn a bonus- how is that different?
    I am unfamiliar with the “bring an acquaintance to work with you” style business model. Is it like take your kid to work day?

    I think she was referring to organizations that need to hire. In many situations, they turn to employees first. Do you have a friend with these skills? Refer them to us. If you refer a friend, and they hire the person, you get a bonus of some sort.

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  72. Liz says:

    I think she was referring to organizations that need to hire. In many situations, they turn to employees first. Do you have a friend with these skills? Refer them to us. If you refer a friend, and they hire the person, you get a bonus of some sort.

    Oh. Heh, well…that’s some clarification. Doesn’t really make a good comparison with trying to rope your friends into being a personal distribution market but I can see why she’d try to use it. Kind of like comparing phishing phone call scams to a help line.

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  73. Liz says:

    “You call your friends anyway don’t you?!? Why not use this as a business opportunity?!?”

    Whoever raised these folks did a very poor job explaining the difference between business norms and social norms. Doing so can be very destructive to communities because it violates trust. Are they helping you because you’re neighbors, or do they want a business opportunity? And now that they’ve helped you, you’d better sign on to an agreement to monthly shipping of their product. It’s a bargain after all! Free shipping after the first 3 months!!
    The sad thing is, with social media it’s only getting worse. Good grief.
    [/rant]

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  74. Liz says:

    Doing so can be very destructive to communities because it violates trust.

    Gah, need an edit.
    Should’ve said, conflating the two (business and social norms) is very destructive to communities.
    It’s one thing to have a useful skill or product that folks want to buy. But MLMs seem at their core to start from the point of “I want money…how can I get some out of people I know who trust me? I could find a product of some kind…” instead of, “I have a useful product/skill, how best to market it?”

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  75. Stephanie says:

    “Are they helping you because you’re neighbors, or do they want a business opportunity? And now that they’ve helped you, you’d better sign on to an agreement to monthly shipping of their product. It’s a bargain after all! Free shipping after the first 3 months!!”

    Yea that’s the sad thing to me. Wanting to develop real, long-lasting friendships only to find out they pretty much just want you to buy from them on a monthly replenishment schedule.

    AND then it gets really really awkward when you see their social media posts about needing more points to get a free vacation LOL!!! That’s actually a real thing!

    So then you feel like, “OH ok, so we’re just pawns in financing your life’s luxuries! Now I know how men feel LOL!”

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  76. Stephanie says:

    Been really busy so just seeing some comments from days ago, but just thinking about what Liz said…

    I think the way the current fashions teach women about life isn’t helping – a lot of these women seem like really nice people otherwise, and they seem to truly believe this is how a business with friends work. That you *should* help them with their own business (and maybe they understand reciprocity?). But I do think they actually do believe in what they’re saying, which just makes it all the more awkward and strange.

    Maybe I’m naive, but hoping they just can’t see what it looks like from the outside?

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  77. Stephanie says:

    And it’s complicated, because of course we like to support real businesses of friends and family when we can! We bought from the fellow friend who does incredible wood-work… but that’s because it was a good product, too!

    Buying lipstick for $50 like Liz pointed out (also a very very real thing LOL!!!) when you can get the same exact formulation for $2-3 at the grocery stores, is just insane!

    Poor ladies.

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  78. Stephanie says:

    This is a good article about that lipstick everyone was selling a couple of years ago (these seem to come in waves I’ve found, as women get tired of selling one thing, so they seem to switch to something else) –

    ” She signed up in April, and instead of relying on lipstick sales alone, she said, “I was told to build a team, build a team, build a team — that’s how you make money.” Eight months after becoming a distributor, Michelle has recruited 26 women for her “downline.” She also has $6,000 of credit card debt.

    “I did a lot of fear-based ordering,” she told The Outline, saying she bought whatever colors were available at the time in order to maintain her stock. “I ended up with a ton of stock that I didn’t need and couldn’t sell.”

    LipSense distributors, many of whom are prolific posters on Facebook and Instagram, where the brand appears to have gone viral, order lipstick and other branded products — LipSense’s parent company, SeneGence, also sells ShadowSense eyeshadow, BrowSense eyebrow gel, and MakeSense foundation — from the SeneGence distributor portal. Every time a distributor places an order, the person who signed them up gets a commission, and so on. And since distributors can’t sign up without first being sponsored by an “upline” seller, someone is always profiting off a new recruit buying up stock for her business. There are no requirements on how much product a distributor has to buy or sell in a given period — that is, unless, they want to earn commission through their downlines, the sellers under them, in which case they have to spend $200 a month to qualify. (SeneGence did not respond to repeated requests for comment.)”

    —————–
    From here https://theoutline.com/post/2566/lipsense-multi-level-marketing?zd=1&zi=q2yk2kpw

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  79. Stephanie says:

    From BV
    “I think it was the first time I looked at someone and later asked my wife, “Those tits cannot possibly be real, can they?””

    ^Texas has a lot of that. In high school I knew girls who were having breast implants – and these were rich families, acting pretty trashy. It gave me insecurities about my own size, but thank God my dad assured me not to feel that way and discouraged any idea to get them.

    But it’s pretty popular in Texas… and it looks awful!

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  80. Farm Boy says:

    I suppose that things are bigger in Texas

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  81. Stephanie says:

    LOL Farm Boy yes! I thought of posting a meme saying that, but trying to cook at the same time! Funny!!!

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  82. BuenaVista says:

    In the social and scientific history of fake boobs, first-generation technology produced cartoonish results. Anyone with means returned for more work within the decade.

    Second-gen: still feel like matching footballs. Gotta remember, upon running a successful play and He scores!, not to try to spike them.

    Third-generation: as with Russian models, there’s always the possibility she’s for real, and one must not forego that vanishing chance.

    Keeping track of what is real, not-real, and real again has been a challenge for me with a couple of longterm friends. I’ve been yelled at — YELLED AT — for not properly complimenting someone’s “updated” front porch. And we’re not talking about Becky Sue The Pole Dancer. Rather, hard-core feminist professor and university exec from Berkeley. (Basically, a commie man-hater but with a BMW.) Yelling at me for not cheering for her new tits (and a certain laser-sustained procedure that gives me the creeps).

    I understand, as Stephanie notes, that there is an UMC competition with high school and college girls to get Daddy or Boyfriend to buy new ones. I have been asked twice, and tricked once into funding, “enhancement.” I really do think women do this the way they post selfies of their latest jaunt to Capri (alone): To drive their girlfriends, not their men, nutso. Everything in American culture seems to deconstruct to new forms of Veblen’s Conspicuous Consumption, and boobies certainly are conspicuous.

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  83. Farm Boy says:

    You know, these women that BV mentions should “get a life”.

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  84. The three fittest women under 50 at my gym all have obviously fake boobs. I often wonder what they looked like pre-op.

    I saw one women (a social worker) from a previous place of employment for the first time in almost a decade. In the long ago I considered her easily a 7.5. Though short, she was very well proportioned and had a nice face and very nice hair. Now she looks like fun-house mirror version of her former self. Huge fake tits. Put on 40 lbs (at least). And her face must have had a good half-pound of makeup on it. Just so SAD!

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