Intellectually Lazy


From here,

During the summer of 2018, Sulkowicz tells me, she was single for the first time in years. Swiping through Tinder, a man she found “distasteful” super-liked her. “It smelled like Connecticut,” she says of his profile. “He was very blond, law school, cut jawline, trapezoidal body figure, tweed suit kind of vibe, but something inside of me made me swipe right, I don’t know.” They began messaging, and she found him witty. “He was actually way more fun to talk to than any other person I matched with.”

Eventually, Sulkowicz stalked him on Twitter and realized that he was conservative — “like, very conservative.” At first, she was repulsed and considered breaking it off. But then she thought, “Wait, actually, that’s kind of fucked up because he’s the most interesting person I’ve come across, shouldn’t I be open to talking to him?” After dispelling her initial fear, she texted him that it would be “interesting (progressive? Powerful?) for two people who might be the antithesis of each other to go on a Tinder date.” . . .

Soon, she began attending house parties and happy hours with conservative and libertarian intellectuals, reading Jordan Peterson and articles from the National Review. In the past, Sulkowicz dismissed opposing views without understanding them, but now she sees intellectual curiosity as intertwined with respect: she wants to disagree with people on their own terms.

So here we have mattress girl, revealing quite a bit I do think.  She was brought up on the narrative (feminist and otherwise).  It was easy to learn, easy to repeat, and felt good overtime it was repeated.  Furthermore, she was now a member of the correct crowd.  Was there any consideration of anything other than the narrative?  It would seem no.  Was there any attempt to do some critical thinking about the narrative?  Apparently not.  This is just so par for the course for these types.

It does appear that somehow, someway, Ms. Sulkowicz started to doubt what she thought she believed.  I wonder why more of them don’t do it, and sooner at that.   It would seem that she found discussion of conservative matters interesting; perhaps much of this were the various eureka moments in discovering a system that had a measure of self-consistency.  Perhaps I am reading too much into Ms. Sulkowicz; it has been suggested that she is just and attention whore, and this is the latest gambit.  It would seem difficult to argue the attention whore aspect, but in this case the attention is rather negative relative to the correct people.

In my personal case, I desired to understand the world as it truly was starting from me being a wee lad.  I had many relatives who I was told were very intelligent, well educated, and were respected by all.  They were also lefty types.  I listened to them very intently, trying to make sense of what they said, to put it all into a coherent, self-consistent system.  For years and years I attempted to do this.  Surely, these esteemed scholars understand reality, and I, just a kid, don’t.  I never could make their systems work, and decided that in their case, they didn’t either.  I was also confident that they never really tried.

Through the years, I have talked to many people on the right.  Often, like me, they tried and failed to make the lefty system work.  I believe that there are not many on the other side that can make the reciprocal claim.

This is very telling

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149 comments on “Intellectually Lazy
  1. h0neyc0mb says:

    She goes to th bed mattress TINDER for a date .. eh?

    Intellectually Lazy you say .. you say correctly.

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  2. Farm Boy says:

    I must say that the young ‘uns don’t seem to know any better.

    It is odd that Tinder is considered to be a dating app

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  3. Liz says:

    When he asks if he can choose his own pseudonym, I tell him sure. He picks Chad. It’s a reference to the incel term for men who, due to serendipitous genetics, are attractive enough to have oodles of sex. All of us laugh, but Sulkowicz laughs loudest, her voice tinkling, bell-like, and leaping between octaves.

    Chad is a Chad, by the way, and he does “smell like Connecticut”: he has cornsilk hair, a shieldlike chest, and a jawline that an incel might show his surgeon for inspiration. But Chad is also a different kind of conservative than I imagined. Rather than a bowtie-sporting William F. Buckley type thumbing his nose at populism, he finds Reaganism laughably passé and aligns himself with Tucker Carlson’s anti-elite drive to regulate markets. He says that he would support some of Trump’s policy agenda, if only the president were competent enough to achieve it.

    Sorry, Farmboy, but I already dislike “Chad”.
    And he swiped right on mattress bitch.
    I know I’m cynical but this smells. Back when the left embraced her, she quickly became an embarrassment. Now she’s “red pilled” with some friend with the pseudonym “Chad”.

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  4. Liz says:

    I wish them all the luck in the word when they branch out in their future porn nitch market they’re setting up.
    He’ll say something red pill and she’ll get lippy and he’ll smack her and she’ll cum and so on.
    [just kidding, not really kidding]

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  5. Farm Boy says:

    Well, Liz, you take ’em where you can get ’em. Not the best fella, I would agree. But the main point is Sulkowicz actually thinking outside her narrative. That kind of think is rare.

    One can hope that there will be growth on both their parts in the future.

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  6. Liz says:

    I hope you’re right, Farm boy.
    I just…find it very hard to believe.

    [Grow intellectually as grow older I did,
    And very old I am]

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  7. horsemanbombadil says:

    Because

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  8. Farm Boy says:

    How many lefties have you encountered who have carefully considered the other side?

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  9. h0neyc0mb says:

    I’m feelin’ “triggered”! heh

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  10. BuenaVista says:

    I grew up in a traditional, intellectual Democrat family. I used to describe my Dad as an “FDR Democrat”, which he was like most of the college community. There really wasn’t any political tension in that university town, because 75% of the populace (and 99% of its intellectual component) all believed the same thing. I stayed that way, myself, well into my 20’s. Wilson good, Coolidge bad, Reagan a clown show.

    I changed dramatically through life experience; I starting making my own payroll at 23 (two trucks on the street in Manhattan), first software company at 25. I migrated into libertarian thought and then learned — contrary to studies at Oberlin — that the Founding of the country really was what we term today Libertarian in nature. I take the position today that you are either a libertarian, Madisonian — or a Wilsonian progressive. Those seem to be the two poles, imo.

    An anecdote: in my family I have been regarded as a crazed right-wing nutjob for 30 years. My Dad was profoundly well-read, intellectually rigorous, but even he refused to actually discuss political matters, or history influenced by politics. This frustrated me greatly, because I couldn’t have a conversation about history and its literature without learning, without gaining new sources to read. (Dad gave me The Federalist Papers and a compilation of primary sources called something like “Documents of the American Founding” — when I was about 10.)

    Very recently, maybe five years ago, he was making some wisecracks the new conservatism and how it was inadequate blah blah blah.

    I laughed and said, “Dad, you raised your children, you’ve been married 55 years, you are the most frugal person I know, you never lie, you depend on no one. You understand that these are bedrock conservative values?” He slapped me on the knee and left the room. But he defined his politics not by personal virtue but by civic organizations, I guess. I think personal behavior should animate public behavior; progressives think public ambitions should be made manifest in one’s private life. I still smile remembering that particular moment. That was some weapons-grade cognitive dissonance and I didn’t return to that conundrum ever again.

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  11. Farm Boy says:

    California may pride itself on its commitment to tolerance and liberal values, but across the state, record levels of homelessness have spurred a backlash against those who live on the streets.

    Gene Gorelik, a property developer in Oakland and an aggressive critic of the homeless, recently suggested luring the thousands of homeless people in the San Francisco Bay Area onto party buses stocked with alcohol and sending them on a one-way trip to Mexico. “Refugee camps in Syria are cleaner than this,” he said in an interview at a fast-food restaurant in Oakland that overlooks a homeless encampment.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/21/us/california-homeless-backlash.html

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  12. Farm Boy says:

    One of the most absurdly unfair parts of these “rules” is that only Democrats can call witnesses. Republicans can call them — with Democrats’ permission.

    And Republicans can only ask questions that Democrats allow.

    http://ace.mu.nu/archives/384070.php

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  13. Farm Boy says:

    A victim to the last,

    HILL: “But I have to say more because this is bigger than me. I am leaving now because of a double standard. I am leaving because I no longer want to be used as a bargaining chip. I’m leaving because I didn’t want to be peddled by papers and blogs and websites, used by shameless operatives for the dirtiest gutter politics that I’ve ever seen and the right-wing media to drive cliques and expand their audience by distributing intimate photos of me, taken without my knowledge, let alone my consent, for the sexual entertainment of millions. I’m leaving because of a misogynistic culture that gleefully coupled my naked pictures, capitalized on my sexuality and enabled my abusive ex to continue that abuse, this time with the entire country watching. I am leaving because of the thousands of vial, threatening e-mails, calls and texts that made me fear for my life and the lives of the people that I care about.”

    https://news.grabien.com/story-rep-katie-hill-final-floor-speech-i-am-leaving-now-because-d

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  14. Farm Boy says:

    A group of climate activists crossing the Atlantic by sailboat to a UN summit in Chile were shocked to learn the event was canceled ⁠— four weeks into their grueling voyage

    — CNN (@CNN) October 31, 2019

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  15. Farm Boy says:

    The contract process began during the Barack Obama Administration. The Obama Administration hired to oversee the contract process – a person who was at that time working for…Amazon Web Services.

    Suddenly, the DoD contractor specifications were rewritten…so that only Amazon met them. Which left Amazon – in the runaway lead for the massive contract.

    https://www.redstate.com/setonmotley/2019/10/30/bidens-dc-swamp-contracting-trump-drains-swamp-strikes-back/

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  16. Farm Boy says:

    Former Democratic president Bill Clinton said that failed 2016 candidate Hillary Clinton “may or may not” run for office in the future during an event alongside Hillary on Wednesday.

    https://dailycaller.com/2019/10/31/bill-clinton-hillary-may-run-again/

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  17. earl says:

    ‘I wonder why more of them don’t do it, and sooner at that.’

    They just got to find that gigachad conservative after they’ve swam with nothing but pajama boys all their life.

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  18. Farm Boy says:

    Dad, you never lie

    So the only implication is that non-conservatives are expected to lie.

    I can agree with that. They can agree with that. Lenin and others admit it

    But they still have their adherents

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  19. earl says:

    “He was very blond, law school, cut jawline, trapezoidal body figure, tweed suit kind of vibe, but something inside of me made me swipe right, I don’t know.”

    Tingles.

    “Eventually, Sulkowicz stalked him on Twitter and realized that he was conservative — “like, very conservative.” At first, she was repulsed and considered breaking it off. But then she thought, “Wait, actually, that’s kind of fucked up because he’s the most interesting person I’ve come across, shouldn’t I be open to talking to him?”

    Which is why the 19th should be repealed.

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  20. Farm Boy says:

    He slapped me on the knee and left the room.

    At least he didn’t give you a total BS answer. Good for him

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  21. Farm Boy says:

    Tingles

    You may be right. Perhaps I hope too much that the other side will engage in introspection

    Reagan was a Democrat once. Then he opened his eyes

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  22. BuenaVista says:

    On reflection, defining the political gradient as Wilsonian Progressivism Left to Madisonian liberty on the right, is an obsolete view. The Dems are vigorously destroying classical progressives: A Moynahan, Mondale, Humphrey has no place in the Dem Party, which offers straight socialist (Warren, Sandersnista, Biteme) or communist (Toothy McBigTits AOC) nostrums. Progressives like Delany, Ryan and Bennett have already been run off the road. An interesting conversation would determine when the crossover from Dem progressivism to undergraduate radicalism occurred. Early 00’s, I would say; Obama is not a progressive but a deep-state commie.

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  23. Farm Boy says:

    but even he refused to actually discuss political matters, or history influenced by politics.

    My intellectual relatives were similar, but in their case the reason seemed to be that they were “right”.

    I suspect that there was something else going on with your dad

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  24. BuenaVista says:

    FB, the slapping on the knee, in our family, meant, “JFC BV you are one pile-driving SOB. Give an old man his illusions.” Which, TBH, is a reasonable position to take, and I did thereafter.

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  25. Farm Boy says:

    Obama is not a progressive but a deep-state commie

    Why, yes he is.

    And AOC and her like are useful idiots

    While AOC might believe what she says, the deep state commie types know the score. BS as a means to power

    As to what that power should be used for, it isn’t “personal liberty”

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  26. Farm Boy says:

    the slapping on the knee, in our family, meant, “JFC BV you are one pile-driving SOB. Give an old man his illusions.” Which, TBH, is a reasonable position to take, and I did thereafter.

    I was thinking it was something like that. I could get onboard.

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  27. BuenaVista says:

    A non-political example of the internal contradictions of the secular, left-wing mind:

    I am a cradle Unitarian, and there are very few of us. Most people drop out of Christian or Jewish thought and wind up Unitarian, the way you wind up at a 7-11 at three a.m. hoping the ATM card will work.

    So Dad rejected his Calvinist upbringing and raised his children in a creedless congregation. Certainly an important one, in the 19th and early 20th century, but drifting now. He wasn’t agnostic; he asserted the absence of God, and rhetorically noted the impossibility of God. That’s atheist.

    I’m a run-of-the-mill crisis Christian. But I’m a pile-driving SOB of a Christian and I read, a lot. This was essential to my becoming Christian. (It’s also a terrible handicap if one wishes to join a meaningful Christian church, because they’re not.)

    The anecdote, and I promise it’s the last one of the day.

    Dad’s in his 80’s and his friends are dying left and right, obviously. BV is all fucked up and out of DC and living in the Dad’s hometown — two blocks from his childhood house, three blocks from his grandmother’s house. BV goes to the hometown on the Christmas holiday to see Dad and he asks BV if he would like to go to midnight services at the Missouri Synod Lutheran Church. Yes, BV says. The man who taught me half-a-dozen instruments is retired but the music director at the church learns of this; he invites me to play my euphonium with the group but I decline. I sit with Dad.

    Christmas Day breaks at midnight, of course. The church is stifling in heat and a packed crowd; there’s a foot of snow and -10 outside. Communion is called. I ask The Dad if he is taking communion, which I know he did as a boy. He shook his head no and smiled. I stand to walk forward and take communion. He’s staring lovingly at me, happy for me. What kind of secular, atheistic person is that? How dissonant were his eyes, emotion, thoughts?

    ***

    Bob, the music director, has a party at his house each year after midnight services. So Dad and I go. Bob is a good Norwegian from Minnesota, trained at St. Olaf, and he was one of the men in town who looked after me because they all knew I lived with a psychopath. We stayed at Bob’s drinking some whack Minnesota punch until 4 a.m.

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  28. Liz says:

    Perhaps I hope too much that the other side will engage in introspection

    I’ve mentioned before I was liberal when Mike and I met.
    Things I would’ve never done not even in my worst moments:
    -Ruined someone’s life by accusing them of a crime they didn’t commit.
    -Drag a mattress around campus for attention
    -Make porn and call it “art”

    Odds this person has been abandoned as a nut job by every person who might’ve called her an acquaintance: 99.99 percent. Even most libs aren’t that wacked. But she craves attention (see past behavior, that’s a personality trait…not something one is taught, it’s conditioned in her hardware). She meets “conservative chad” (who coincidentally doesn’t like Trump) on a Tinder and now she’s a conservative!
    I think at best she just ran out of friends.
    (but I still suspect there’s a niche porn market there…I did predict correctly that she would do that back when she was lugging that mattress around in protest. I still think that is her angle as I doubt she has any other useful skills, and Chad…why did that guy swipe right on mattress girl? She is famous he obviously knew who she was /rhetorical)

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  29. BuenaVista says:

    The slap on the knee meant he knew I was right and he was secretly proud that he’d raised a guy who thinks before he feelz. I’m mature enough that this is how we were trained, at home and at school. It must really, really suck to be a smart critical thinker today, dealing with shrieking mobs of triggered, lazy-ass powerpoint promoters. Really, what we’re dealing with today is the organized, orchestrated death of inquiry and independent expression. Absent the internet we’d already be living in a new Dark Age. The institutions, created for study, thought, expression, are already pointless.

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  30. BuenaVista says:

    This is a churlish remark, but I don’t really give a fuck that California is on fire. (The radio is offering another breathless report of California’s Tragedy of Fire.) If you live there you own the social pathologies and the insanity that leads a monopoly energy provider to say, “We serve your energy needs by turning it off.”

    If clearcutting trash trees along power lines is a crime against Gaiea, fine. Like every other ludicrous assertion (“Violent criminals should not be delivered to the vicious federal government gulag, for removal to the shitholes that produced them”) it’s a free country. At this point I feel zero obligation to save them from themselves.

    I lived and worked in Del Mar and Costa Mesa, incidentally. When I first landed in California, as a working adult, I considered it a paradise. I was like the midwesterners in James M. Cain’s, and Raymond Chandler’s, novels with eyes like silver dollars. I’ve run out of interest in understanding people who destroy important, beautiful things.

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  31. jamesarr1967 says:

    “But the main point is Sulkowicz actually thinking outside her narrative.”

    I’m going to say “extremely doubtful”, instead of “no fucking way”, just to be polite. She’s a rapidly aging (turned 27 last month) attention whore just trying to mine a different vein. Primary evidence is this whole dating a red-pill Chad bullshit scenario. Nobody gives a fuck about her anymore so she had to make up this crap to get back in the “news”.

    “Behold! The Jussie Smollett of sexual assault claims!” – comment at The Cut article, which I heartily endorse.

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  32. Farm Boy says:

    When I first landed in California, as a working adult, I considered it a paradise

    I did also, 30 years ago. I have spent over a year of my life in California on business trips. At first it was great, a functioning place, with some seemingly harmless nuts to add spice. Now the nuts are in charge, and it all going to pot.

    Such are the fruits of nuts

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  33. Farm Boy says:

    It does seem that everybody can agree that Sulkowicz is an attention whore.

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  34. Farm Boy says:

    I’ve mentioned before I was liberal when Mike and I met.

    See, personal growth in a reality oriented manner is possible.

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  35. Remember California? seems like a good bumper-sticker idea.

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  36. Farm Boy says:

    Odds this person has been abandoned as a nut job by every person who might’ve called her an acquaintance

    I probably once thought that way, but today’s people (at least some of them) really eat that nutty spread up. It makes them feel like they are “living” and shit

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  37. Farm Boy says:

    Victor Davis Hanson is a lifelong California resident. He writes and speaks about the process of demise

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  38. Farm Boy says:

    but I still suspect there’s a niche porn market there

    Isn’t there a niche pron market for most everything?

    Naked chicks grooming other chicks, stuff like that

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  39. earl says:

    What I don’t get is why Texas is trying to lure Californians to their state. It’s not like Californians are going to change…they just want to find another functioning place to ruin with their policies because they don’t get it.

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  40. Any pics of a naked Jellybean smoking a bong and grooming a staff member floating around?

    Shouting “gay rights!” in a gay bar is gotta be one of the greatest self-owns of all time.

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  41. Farm Boy says:

    It must really, really suck to be a smart critical thinker today, dealing with shrieking mobs of triggered, lazy-ass powerpoint promoters.

    Yes, indeed. From time to time I explain what critical thinking is to young people. Often they look at me as if I was from Mars. “Thinking is hard, just tell us the answers”

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  42. Too late for Halloween, but Christmas is just around the corner…

    [Seems happy she does]

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  43. Farm Boy says:

    Let the 2020 cycle be a warning to political correspondents who write glowing profile pieces on the next great Democratic party hope. For some of us, the best part of this cycle so far is watching the slow-motion implosion of so many wildly over-hyped “rising stars” of the Democratic party — relentlessly trying and failing to gain traction against a trio of well-worn septuagenarians. This primary is turning into a giant bonfire of once-promising political talents who could make national reporters swoon.

    As far back as 2017, Vogue and other national glossies gushed over the presidential potential of Kirsten Gillibrand.

    Beto O’Rourke was the favorite subject of glowing profiles in national publications throughout 2018.

    Julian Castro spent much of the past decade being touted as “the Latino Obama.”

    Cory Booker was the subject of documentaries and a social media star . . . and like the rest, he’s an afterthought.

    And as our John McCormick notes, Kamala Harris’s campaign may be reaching the stage of an M.Night Shamalayan character — long since dead, but still walking around in denial of this difficult truth

    https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/bonfire-of-the-democratic-partys-once-rising-stars/

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  44. Farm Boy says:

    Households have been warned they face ‘very high’ bills if they continue to reject new smart meters.

    However, climate change minister Lord Duncan told the business, energy and industrial strategy committee those who refused a smart meter would soon ‘find the stick’ of rapidly rising bills.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7632657/Homeowners-refuse-install-smart-meter-face-huge-hike-energy-bills.html

    [WTF, a climate change minister the Brits have?]

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  45. Farm Boy says:

    The New York Times poo-pooed the long-standing tradition of television stations airing the “The Star-Spangled Banner” because some night owl viewers could be offended by the “politically charged” national anthem.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/the-new-york-times-national-anthem

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  46. [Seems happy she does]

    That’s a smile that says, “Whew, so glad all my life choices have worked out so well!”

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  47. I remember California when it was the posture capital of the country.

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  48. BuenaVista says:

    I studied the American Romantics (fiction and poetry) and the Transcendalists (e.g., Unitarians, Emerson, Thoreau) with a guy named Larry Buell. Larry appeared to buy his clothing at Goodwill, if he didn’t inherit them from his grandfather. He rode his bike to the school, played squash every day at noon, and ate a sack lunch. He also published a lot of books and retired as the Dean of Arts and Sciences, Harvard.

    Larry started each semester by announcing, “If you want an A in this class, you’ll have to teach me something. I’m assuming you already know how to write.” He really said this and kept his word. This is the essence of the liberal (classical) conscience: construct an abstraction, discover something new, make your argument compelling, and take your chances.

    I can imagine he would fail to get tenure if, as a young prof, he informed his classes that he expected them to think, reason and imagine like adult scholars. IOW, he’d be fired for setting a high bar and encouraging his wide-eyed charges to leap over it.

    Powerpoint is to thought as Kraft Mac & Cheese is to a good Umbrian pasta.

    https://norvig.com/Gettysburg/sld001.htm

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  49. RichardP says:

    Note: This is a discussion of economic thought, not religion.

    Growing up, I knew many men of the sort that BV describes his father as. Fiscally conservative; socially liberal. The Pacific Northwest is full of Scandinavians and Germans (I married one that is a mixture of both). My community was very Lutheran. When one earns their living off of the land, one must pay strict attention to the cost / benefit relationship or one loses their land. But Lutheran and Reformed doctrine also encouraged these folks to accept their responsibility toward the less fortunate, and so they were of the sort described by the following quote from Wikipedia: (in stark terms, if one is not going to just shoot the less fortunate and get them out of the way, one must take care of them at some minimal level. Starving people tend to burn down the palace (or poop on the sidewalks), and that is not useful for anybody.)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_conservatism

    Liberal conservatism incorporates the classical liberal view of minimal government intervention in the economy, according to which individuals should be free to participate in the market and generate wealth without government interference. However, liberal conservatism also holds that individuals cannot be thoroughly depended on to act responsibly in other spheres of life, therefore liberal conservatives believe that a strong state is necessary to ensure law and order and social institutions are needed to nurture a sense of duty and responsibility to the nation. They also support civil liberties, along with some social conservative positions. In Europe, liberal conservatism is the dominant form of contemporary conservatism and centre-right politics.

    Both “conservatism” and “liberalism” have had different meanings over time in different centuries. The term “liberal conservatism” has been used in quite different ways. It usually contrasts with “aristocratic conservatism”, which deems the principle of equality as something discordant with human nature and emphasizes instead the idea of natural inequality. As conservatives in democratic countries have embraced typical liberal institutions such as the rule of law, private property, the market economy and constitutional representative government, the liberal element of liberal conservatism became consensual among conservatives. In some countries (e.g. the United Kingdom and the United States), the term “liberal conservatism” came to be understood simply as “conservatism” in popular culture, prompting some conservatives who embraced more strongly classical liberal values to call themselves “libertarians” instead. However, there are differences between classical liberals and libertarians.

    Thorstein Veblen was an eccentric economist. I read something he posited once but have been unable to find it again on the internet. Calvinism holds (simple version) that God chooses whom he wants to spend eternity with him (the Elect). One who appears to be an Elect for most of their adult life, but falls away from faith at the end, must not have been Elect to begin with, they reason. Bottom line: no one can know if they are “saved” until the Judgement Seat. For this reason, reasoned Veblen, the Calvinists are extremely industrious. Due to their uncertain status with God, Veblen reasoned, they chase bigger houses, more land, better clothing, (bigger breast?) etc. in an effort to display to their neighbors that they really do have God’s favor. But, in gaining all of these “favors” (which requires a basic frugal, conservative approach to things), they wanted to maintain God’s favor by showing that they were not stingy. So they share some of their wealth with the less fortunate. The Puritans were a varied group, but all shared a common Calvinist theology. These are the folks who initially came to North America and settled it. Sounds a good bit like the definition of Liberal Conservatism from the Wikipedia quote.

    On the other hand, reasoned Veblen, the Arminians believed they could choose to come to God at any time (unconstrained free will). So what’s the hurry? They did not partake in the Calvinist uncertainy about their ability to find favor with God, and so were less driven to acquire things that would indicate God’s favor was on them.. Being less driven to acquire things, they were less industrious.

    Veblen pointed out that everywhere the Calvinist folks settled, commerce flourished – so society flourished, from the accumulation of wealth, and the protestant work ethic rubbed off on those working alongside the Puritans / Calvinists. Everywhere the Arminians settled, commerce flourished only locally, and perhaps not even then. Societies formed by these folks were decidedly more down-scale than the societies formed by the Calvinists. Veblen “proved” his theory by contrasting the (lack of) economic vigor of the countries that were primarily Catholic (see Central and South America) with the economic vigor of those countries that had been settled primarily by the Puritans and other Calvinists.

    Enlightened folks pooh poohed Veblen’s theory. Primarily because it is easier to be industrious in the colder north than it is in the stiffling hot climates.

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  50. earl says:

    ‘I remember California when it was the posture capital of the country.’

    And those women pretty much turned into what California is today.

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  51. RichardP says:

    Here’s a story you may not find elsewhere. Just listened to this fellow being interviewed on the radio.

    Used to be partner in a firm that administered employee benefits plans. Came to a point where he figured that there must be more to life. He and his wife talked things over and decided to create a business where they rent out goats. One of his clients is the Reagan Library where the fires were a few days ago. He rents to the Library 300 goats who are penned into a restricted space on the mountain below the Library. As the goats clear the vegetation, someone(s) move the fence to the next uneaten area – until the entire area around the Library has had the vegetation taken down to ground level.

    A fellow whose name you probably will never know helped save Ron and Nancy’s dream – at least until the next fire. We should be so lucky to have someone there for us after we die.

    —–

    Apple issued an alert on October 26. There is a problem with the GPS function in iOS, which keeps the time and date from being accurate. All things that the iPhone does on the internet will not work unless the iOS software is updated by midnight Saturday night (11-2). But the fix apparently is in the software only for iPhone 6s or higher. The update appears to not be available for iPhone 6 and lower.

    Phone calls will apparently still work. And maybe texting – but that is to be determined. For sure, any activity that requires synchronizing the time and date between the phone and the internet will not work, including App Store, iCloud, email, and web browsing.

    Apple is late in getting this info out, so you may have friends who need to know this pronto.

    I know this because we are busy upgrading family phones because of a Verizon issue that will come on-line on January 1, 2020. But then we learn that Verizon postponed that activity for a year to January 1, 2021 bcause they learned that many government agencies use the Verizon network to conduct business and they were not pleased at having to buy so many upgraded phones.

    So I’ve been paying attention to Apple news and saw this GPS problem when it was announced on October 26. See this article.

    https://www.gadgetguy.com.au/gps-week-number-rollover-update-iphone-or-ipad-now/

    There is some confusing language in there as to whether phones earlier than 6s can be updated, so I will quote this from the article:

    … iOS only supports the previous five generations of the device. The iOS versions above are not the latest. It is up to 13 now rendering iPhone 6 or earlier not updatable.

    What a way to drive sales.

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  52. RichardP says:

    That is midnight November 3 (Sunday night), not November 2.

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  53. Ame says:

    I laughed and said, “Dad, you raised your children, you’ve been married 55 years, you are the most frugal person I know, you never lie, you depend on no one. You understand that these are bedrock conservative values?” He slapped me on the knee and left the room.

    BuenaVista
    FB, the slapping on the knee, in our family, meant, “JFC BV you are one pile-driving SOB. Give an old man his illusions.” Which, TBH, is a reasonable position to take, and I did thereafter.

    i love this … i love everything about it … i love the relationship you had with your Dad that created this scene … i love how you honored him … i love how he acknowledged who he was and who he was not while also honoring you.

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  54. Ame says:

    I’m a run-of-the-mill crisis Christian. But I’m a pile-driving SOB of a Christian and I read, a lot. This was essential to my becoming Christian. (It’s also a terrible handicap if one wishes to join a meaningful Christian church, because they’re not.)

    i really do love this little, itty bitty church we’ve been attending these last two months. it’s not perfect, but there is a lot of good in there.

    it’s a mission church and has drawn some seminary guys in – guess it’s part of their training? idk. but i do like them all.

    i’ve already caused reflection? shaken their taught train-of-thought? whatever you want to call it, with the leaders 🙂 … b/c i’ve experienced a lot … and although i do not read anywhere near as much as BV (though wish i could read and digest the volume of info he can), i do read quite a bit.

    one example:

    i sent the lead pastor, who is about ten years older than i and has also taught at seminary, some info written by a lay person (not a seminary trained person), to get his thoughts. his response startled me (perhaps b/c i’ve been out of church for a looong time) … he said he was leery of reading it all b/c it was written by an ‘untrained’ man.

    i think that’s quite narrow of him … however, given his position and where he’s lived his life, i can see that is, perhaps, his normal … and might be all he knows.

    but … he’s experienced some difficult things through his adult kids in the last several years, and he seems more open that most to ‘thinking’ outside of his training. everyone has their own ‘processing curve’ in life.

    i do love his preaching and teaching … straight from the bible. his wife is amazing. he is extremely kind and his eyes genuine and sincere. and he has been very compassionate and accepting of my comments and the parts of our story i’ve shared.

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  55. Ame says:

    The man who taught me half-a-dozen instruments is retired but the music director at the church learns of this; he invites me to play my euphonium with the group but I decline. I sit with Dad.

    i love this.

    i assume you still own all your instruments?

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  56. Farm Boy says:


    Andrew Cuomo: ‘We Didn’t Have Hurricanes’ Before Climate Change

    https://dailycaller.com/2019/11/01/andrew-cuomo-hurricanes-climate-change/

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  57. Farm Boy says:

    Trevor Noah: We’re joined by Secretary Hillary Rodham Clinton and Chelsea Clinton, who co-wrote The Book of Gutsy Women. Hillary, I have to ask you a question that is been (sic) plaguing me for a while: How did you kill Jeffrey Epstein?

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/trevor-noah-to-hillary-clinton-how-did-you-kill-jeffrey-epstein/

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  58. “Well, Trevor, I did it like this…”

    “Oh, wait! It was a joke. Just a joke! Help! Help me! Urgh!.Ack! ARRRRRRRGH!!!!. Gurgle. Bleh.”

    “Well, Chelsea, it looks like you’re the new host of this show.”

    “Thanks, Mom, but can you get me the Tonight Show for Christmas?”

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  59. Farm Boy says:

    I’ve mentioned before I was liberal when Mike and I met.
    Things I would’ve never done not even in my worst moments:
    -Ruined someone’s life by accusing them of a crime they didn’t commit.
    -Drag a mattress around campus for attention
    -Make porn and call it “art”

    Well, times have changed. If you have the ‘correct’ values, and a plan of action advances you and/or your values, then anything is justified in implementing that plan

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  60. Farm Boy says:

    The Book of Gutsy Women

    Let me correct this

    The Book of Gusty Women

    As in “hot air”

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  61. Farm Boy says:

    U.S.—Presidential candidate Robert Francis “Beto” O’Rourke has announced he is dropping out of the presidential race so that he can spend more time taking guns away from his family. “I’ve been so focused on grabbing the guns of strangers,” O’Rourke told the press, “that I’ve neglected taking away the guns of those closest to me.”

    https://babylonbee.com/news/beto-drops-out-of-race-to-spend-more-time-taking-guns-from-his-family

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  62. Ame says:

    earl
    What I don’t get is why Texas is trying to lure Californians to their state. It’s not like Californians are going to change…they just want to find another functioning place to ruin with their policies because they don’t get it.

    as far as i know, Texans are NOT trying to lure anyone to our state … most Texans do not like outsiders! lol!

    that billboard was a babylon bee thing 🙂

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  63. Ame says:

    Farm Boy
    7h ago
    It must really, really suck to be a smart critical thinker today, dealing with shrieking mobs of triggered, lazy-ass powerpoint promoters.

    Yes, indeed. From time to time I explain what critical thinking is to young people. Often they look at me as if I was from Mars. “Thinking is hard, just tell us the answers”

    so … i wanted a different bible to take to church with me. the one i use the most is kinda falling apart, and i wanted a different version. so i hit the thrift stores as i didn’t want to pay for a new one. at one thrift store my Oldest and i went to they had a lot of books and were well organized. there was a large section for christian non-fiction. my daughter asked me why there were so many books like that. i told her b/c most people do not want to read the bible for themselves, they’d rather read someone else’s opinion of the bible. she looked at me like that was the craziest thing she ever heard and commented that that would never be accepted in our home with her Mama. lol! 🙂

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  64. Ame says:

    KH – Roll over image to zoom in
    Littleforbig
    Littleforbig Adult Baby & Diaper Lover (ABDL) Button Crotch Romper Onesie – Giraffe and Zoo Animals Pattern

    LOL!

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  65. Ame says:

    4.3 out of 5 stars 110 ratings

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  66. Liz says:

    Liznip,

    GAH! Flotsam and Loathsome.

    [Captured this picture of Liz I did]

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  67. BuenaVista says:

    Abigail Van Buren (born Sioux City Iowa) just wants to help:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIQJC5RXYAIWZqu?format=jpg

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  68. Farm Boy says:

    My Dad grew up just outside of Sioux City. People with practical common sense they were. They also said things like “warsh the clothes”

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  69. horsemanbombadil says:

    Friday. Bullets and boobs. Groupings and glutes. Clips and …..

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  70. horsemanbombadil says:

    Whoops.

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  71. Farm Boy says:

    Another watchable review

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  72. Farm Boy says:

    Doesn’t look good

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  73. Farm Boy says:

    But as one of our articles last week showed, there are also increasing numbers of men who are checking out of society. One-sixth of men between the ages of 25 and 34 have stopped looking for work all together. Women are outpacing men in both college attendance and graduation. Suicide rates for middle-age men continue to rise. And fathers are now absent from one-third of American homes. There are undoubtedly many factors behind these phenomena, but it can’t help that movies and televisions today are constantly feeding men the message that they are stupid, and that society doesn’t really expect much from them.

    https://www.intellectualtakeout.org/blog/boys-are-stupid-girls-are-awesome-most-tv-shows-movies-today

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  74. Ame says:

    Farm Boy
    12h ago
    Victor Davis Hanson is a lifelong California resident. He writes and speaks about the process of demise

    WOW!

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  75. Ame says:

    wow, Richard … glad we don’t have apple anything here … well, except the round, edible kind! 🙂

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  76. Ame says:

    Richard – He and his wife talked things over and decided to create a business where they rent out goats.

    i have never heard of such a thing!

    glad the reagan center was saved.

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  77. Cill says:

    Q: What’s the definition of a mistress?
    A: Something between a master and a mattress

    Yeah yeah yeah you’ve all heard it already.

    Raff off, the lot of you.

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  78. Cill says:

    May your journey go well, my spawny space cobbers.

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  79. Cheque d'Out says:


    ?

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  80. BuenaVista says:

    FB: that would be, “warsh the clothes … down at the crick.”

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  81. Farm Boy says:

    Our Glorious Patriarch

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  82. BuenaVista says:

    A large serving of joy and comradeship for Saturday morning:

    These guys don’t fake their affection for each other. The tall one (who was Series MVP) is famously reticent, repressed even. (Tape is from the winning the NL pennant, not the Series.)

    The Latin guys make Stras do group hugs in public. I don’t think he hugs his wife in public, but now he does group hugs with grown men on national TV:

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  83. Cheque d'Out says:

    England vs The Springboks (South Africa) in rugby. For the big cup

    Just started

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  84. BuenaVista says:

    Regarding Epstein, the ME hired by the family has autopsied every murder and suicide victim in the NYS prison system for 50 years. He doesn’t discuss probability per se, which is probably smart, since lay people do not understand probability and risk, but he does say publicly:

    What is the likelihood that a high-value prisoner of the FedGov simultaneously experiences:

    a. two sleeping guards
    b. removal of suicide watch
    c. removal of cellmate
    d. two broken hallway cameras
    e. a windpipe that is crushed as though stomped on (ME says it’s impossible to hang oneself and fracture the hyroid) (moreover, Epstein’s purported self-hanging was really just a strangulation, i.e., Epstein is supposed to have killed himself by kneeling on the floor and leaning into the homemade ligature)

    Of course, many of us have been saying all but e) (since I am not qualified) since the morning of the announcement. The ME also publicly drags the local coroner for declaring it suicide before the autopsy. He states that based on injuries alone he would declare it a homicide, and that not once in 20,000 cases has he seen injuries like Epstein’s in a jailhouse ‘suicide.’

    This was a deep state-ordered assassination. Barr is investigating this, too. The absurdity and frantic quality of the impeachment carousel (Pelosi is now saying she wants to ‘investigate’ something new, as Ukraine also has blown up in her face) is a reflection that some people believe he’ll tear the whole edifice down if he is re-elected.

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  85. Farm Boy says:

    has blown up in her face

    Perhaps this will improve her face…

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  86. Farm Boy says:

    Former top man at the CIA explains

    But oddly enough he never explains precisely why this is justified

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  87. Farm Boy says:

    This sordid, contemptible impeachment ruse is finally disintegrating. It was another fraud, and I predict that this time the polls will move clearly in the president’s favor. There are limits to how often his enemies can get the public and the world to the edges of their chairs with their fantastic accusations. The Economist, a long-respected magazine in earlier times, told us a year ago that the Trump presidency was hanging on the thread of Michael Cohen’s testimony. Most of the U.S. media gave the public to understand for two years that there was a high chance that he would be thrown out once the Mueller investigation established his “treasonous” links to the Russians. Trump appalls many reasonable people by some of his antics and utterances, but his supporters are rock-solid at only slightly less than half the country, and enough to have got him elected. But the vitriolic antagonism of about 90 percent of the media, and the fear and loathing of the political class, which he assaulted in its entirety, have sustained an artificial levitation of morbid expectation that he will be overthrown and removed

    https://pushingrubberdownhill.com/2019/11/01/friday-hawt-chicks-links-the-no-thinking-edition/

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  88. Cheque d'Out says:

    My deepest apologies to the Kiwis

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  89. Farm Boy says:


    A 24-year-old man who hit another man over the head with a baton in June during dueling downtown Portland demonstrations was sentenced Friday to nearly six years in prison.

    Gage Halupowski pleaded guilty to second-degree assault in connection with the June 29 attack on Adam Kelly outside The Nines Hotel along Southwest Morrison Street. Halupowski was identified as one of several masked, black-clothed demonstrators seen on video hitting and pepper-spraying Kelly after he appeared to come to the aid of another man who’d been attacked during the protests, authorities said.

    https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2019/11/baton-attack-during-june-protests-in-downtown-portland-lands-man-in-jail-for-nearly-6-years.html

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  90. BuenaVista says:

    Since it’s meme Saturday and I’m a closet Powerpoint-and-cartoons hobbyist:

    Self-portrait. Unapologetic old guy in gray:

    This is a really, really complicated public policy issue. If you have the IQ of springer spaniel:

    There actually is an American generation pleading to be put in chains:

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  91. BuenaVista says:

    FB, my Dad rode the Illinois Central to Sioux City once a week as a boy, to be treated by an old man osteopath. He had polio. The osteopath saved his legs. He qualified for the Navy at 17 and still ran half-marathons in his 60’s, after a heart attack.

    My grandfather, who in his 80’s still had veins visible in his biceps, would carry Dad onto the train, my grandmother accompanying. Dad would be placed in a berth, with a crippled person’s clipped view of the passing landscape. You may recognize the town name “Remsen”, which is en route Sioux City. This was a summer when Remsen burned down: on July 4th, Remsen and Spencer burned, owing to enthusiastic fireworks. Dad rode through a town where suddenly the roofs were gone. It was as though the world had changed traumatically, for no reason. He could neither see the ground, nor understand why the town was a smoking ember.

    In Sioux City, where my grandmother earned a four-year degree before girls did that sort of thing, a driver would collect Dad and Grandma and drive them to the osteopath.

    Others: the West begins at the Missouri. Sioux City sits on the east bank of the Missouri. 50 miles west of the Missouri River you are definitely not on the tall grass prairie any longer. Sioux City was a rich town during the opening of the prairie and cattle culture. It’s now overrun by illegals who cut pork, and the like, and whites don’t go downtown, sticking to their insta-burbs and associated malls.

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  92. Farm Boy says:

    My Great grandfather was a district superintendent on a western Iowa railroad. My grandfather worked in the locomotive shops. Some real good fellas right there

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  93. Farm Boy says:

    Every Columbus Day, liberals insist that the story of European colonization is a simple narrative of good versus evil: horrible Europeans came upon innocent Native Americans, introducing slavery, exploitation, and oppression. A massive archaeological discovery blows one of many gaping holes in this narrative. While Europeans did indeed do horrible things, the natives weren’t exactly innocent.

    Two hundred and fifty skeletons of children between the ages of 4 and 14 have been unearthed at Huanchaco, Peru, in what experts say is likely the world’s largest child sacrifice site. Huanchaco is a site of the Chimú culture (1200-1400), a predecessor to the mighty Inca Empire, which also carried out child sacrifices.

    ‘This is the biggest site where the remains of sacrificed children have been found,” the excavation’s chief archaeologist, Feren Castillo, told AFP in August. “There isn’t another like it anywhere else in the world.”

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/largest-child-sacrifice-graveyard-strikes-huge-blow-to-native-american-innocence-myth/

    [Noble savages they were not]

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  94. Farm Boy says:

    And it’s not about Joe Biden. Biden arose in the conversation with Zelensky as something of an afterthought. Why wouldn’t he be? Hapless Joe’s been a textbook example of The Peter Principle ever since he plagiarized in law school (think about that as an example to your son!) and it’s doubtful Trump was overly concerned with him. What was on the president’s mind was CrowdStrike, the digital firm. He was trying to enlist Ukrainian help in tracking down the who, what, where, and why of the Russia probe (aka Spygate). That interested him. And why wouldn’t it? It would interest anyone who was the subject of such a nefarious plot. And the president was perfectly within his rights trying to do this — in the Ukraine or anywhere else

    https://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/dems-impeachment-charade-a-disaster-for-them-not-the-american-people/

    I really have wondered what the Dem’s strategy was/is with the Russia Collusion and Ukrainian things were. Was it to “build so much anti-Trump momentum via lies/gaslighting with their MSM friends” such that it would just overwhelm the Administration?

    I am thinking that people were so suspicious of Dems/media that it never had a chance. If done thirty years ago, then maybe it would have been a go

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  95. Farm Boy says:

    And when Chelsea deigns to speak, we are rewarded with these scintillating thoughts:

    “You know, I think there is this sense, this perception now, that … you know, Is it just too hard? And yet, so many of the same people who are asking that are themselves persisting to ensure that it’s not as hard tomorrow.”

    https://nypost.com/2019/10/31/new-york-magazine-piece-further-exposes-chelsea-clintons-lack-of-awareness/

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  96. Cheque d'Out says:

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  97. Cheque d'Out says:

    What did he expect would happen?

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  98. Cheque d'Out says:

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  99. Farm Boy says:

    Before President Donald Trump acted, foreigners who entered the United States illegally and sought to claim asylum were processed and then … released into the United States.

    They were then required to return for a hearing on their status, but that would usually take months, sometimes years.

    Then the Trump administration enacted the Migrant Protection Protocols (MPP), which became known as the “Remain In Mexico” policy. The protocols did just that: foreigners who entered the U.S. illegally were processed, then released into Mexico to await their hearings.

    Instead of waiting, though, thousands of migrants who were returned to Mexico gave up their asylum claims and went home, Fox News reports.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/thousands-of-foreigners-sent-back-to-mexico-under-trump-policy-have-given-up-asylum-claims

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  100. Cheque d'Out says:

    The average Conservative voter

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  101. Ame says:

    Yoda kills it with these memes! esp love the statue of liberty/texas one! lol!

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  102. Cheque d'Out says:

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  103. Farm Boy says:

    Let’s not beat around the bush, Terminator Dark Fate is an unoriginal disgrace on just about every level. The very fiber of this film comes off as someone who is ashamed that the foundation of this franchise does not fit their current day intersectional feminist worldview, so they decided to change it by repealing and replacing everything they felt was problematic with more progressive friendly elements.

    Let’s start with John Connor. The character who is the primary protagonist of the Terminator franchise is killed minutes into the film and is completely removed from the equation only to be replaced by the new hero of Daniella “Dani” Ramos. This is why progressive think tanks are killing cinema and entertainment as we know it. Because in the world of intersectionality, the only thing they see is a white male action star who just doesn’t fit the bill of the modern Hollywood diversity and inclusion agenda so he must be replaced. If you thought it was bad enough that they made John a villain in the last movie, the progressive Gods decided it was time for him to die thus rendering the plot of multiple films completely and utterly useless

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/get-woke-go-broke-terminator-dark-fate-bombs-at-the-box-office

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  104. Ame says:

    Spawny … a glance over that list, and it doesn’t look like anything’s changed … so Boris sold out.

    [Pieces of silver involved there were?]

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  105. Farm Boy says:

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  106. Farm Boy says:

    Former first lady Michelle Obama suggested that former President Barack Obama could build his presidential library anywhere around the world because people in foreign countries feel like he is their president

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/michelle-obama-barack-could-build-presidential-library-anywhere-because-so-many-people-feel-like-he-is-their-president

    [Perhaps that a problem it would be]

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  107. Farm Boy says:

    Oldie but goodie

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  108. Farm Boy says:


    Of the Congressmen accused of sexual misconduct, only Democrat Bobby Scott stubbornly refused to resign and is still infesting the 3rd Congressional District seat in Virginia.

    So where is the “double standard?”

    https://victorygirlsblog.com/katie-hill-and-the-mythical-double-standard/

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  109. Farm Boy says:

    But I am extremely grateful to Sturgeon for her massive progressive faux pas.

    “My message overall from Scotland is that we are determined to remain an open, outward-looking, tolerant country.”

    I don’t think so, Nicola. If the only ones you want are Scots by blood then you’re the opposite of the progressive utopia of outward looking tolerance. Choose one or the other, but you can’t have both. At least not if you’re a rational and logical thinker who desires truth above all other things. Which means that she most probably can hold these two diametrically opposed viewpoints at the same time.

    Isn’t progressivism a most wondrous thing?

    https://pushingrubberdownhill.com/2019/11/02/scotland-reveals-the-lie-at-the-heart-of-civic-nationalism/

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  110. Farm Boy says:

    Diamond D’s brothel began construction on an expansion of their building to increase their ever-growing business. In response, the local Baptist Church started a campaign to block the business from expanding — with morning, afternoon, and evening prayer sessions at their church.

    Work on Diamond D’s progressed right up until the week before the grand re-opening when lightning struck the whorehouse and burned it to the ground!
    After the brothel burned to the ground by the lightning strike, the church folks were rather smug in their outlook, bragging about “the power of prayer.”

    But late last week ‘Big Jugs’ Jill Diamond, the owner/madam, sued the church, the preacher and the entire congregation on the grounds that the church … “was ultimately responsible for the demise of her building and her business — either through direct or indirect divine actions or means.” In its reply to the court, the church vehemently and vociferously denied any and all responsibility or any connection to the building’s demise.

    The crusty old judge read through the plaintiff’s complaint and the defendant’s reply, and at the opening hearing he commented, “I don’t know how the hell I’m going to decide this case, but it appears from the paperwork, that we now have a whorehouse owner who staunchly believes in the power of prayer, and an entire church congregation that thinks it’s all bull*****.”

    https://forums.floridasportsman.com/discussion/221346/brothel-sues-church

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  111. Farm Boy says:

    Birth coach is ‘hounded out’ of industry charity Doula UK after transgender activists brand her Facebook message claiming only women can have babies as offensive

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7643251/Charity-hounds-birth-coach-post-saying-women-children.html

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  112. Liz says:

    So where is the “double standard?”

    There is an obvious double standard.
    No way could a male publicly blame an inappropriate and inherently exploitive adultery (especially homosexual adultery) on his “abusive” wife.
    Would be interesting to see though.

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  113. Farm Boy says:

    No fella would be allowed to be such of an attention whore as Ms. Hill

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  114. Farm Boy says:

    “I’m an ambulance chaser for the canceled,” joked Jonathan Kay, an editor of Quillette, an online publication that touts itself as a defender of free speech and has emerged as a home for the canceled to plead their cases.

    Ms. Stock used Quillette to reassert her views. “I’ve found defending myself in print is the best thing I can do to feel better by myself,” she said.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/02/style/what-is-cancel-culture.html

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  115. Farm Boy says:

    “Those people are always going to attack that way,” Fonda told Washington’s FOX 5. “The best way to attack a celebrity is to say, ‘Here she is, doing it for their own glory or promotion or whatever.’

    “It doesn’t matter,” she added. “Those people don’t matter. It doesn’t matter. Good people know.“

    https://hotair.com/archives/karen-townsend/2019/11/02/jane-fonda-protest-critics-people-dont-matter/

    Yes they do Jane

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  116. Farm Boy says:

    “Speech First is thrilled that the University of Michigan has finally agreed to respect the First Amendment rights of its students,” Neily told Campus Reform. “Speech First’s victory paves the way for college students who may have been too fearful or intimidated to express their opinions to finally embrace their free speech rights and engage in true academic discourse. While our battle is far from over, we are pleased that the administration will no longer maintain policies that have both the purpose and the effect of chilling student speech.”

    https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=13934

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  117. Liz says:

    Eulogies for Katie:

    There once was a woman named Hill.
    Whose career took quite a spill.
    From bong hits to blow,
    She should’ve lied low,
    And kept the quim out of her grill.

    California can damage your soul,
    So low this seems even the goal
    The Stygian state
    Thought Katie was great,
    Found her too crass even for that hell hole

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  118. Farm Boy says:

    Does smoking lots of pot make you dumb or do dumb people smoke lots of pot? Mostly, the latter

    https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2019/11/the-causal-effect-of-cannabis-on-cognition.html

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  119. Farm Boy says:

    That means that failure to remember many pronouns for a given student in an undergraduate body of nearly 35,000, or that the student doesn’t use pronouns, could trigger an unspecified university response. The only nonstandard pronoun the policy lists is “They/them/theirs.”

    https://www.thecollegefix.com/university-of-minnesota-threatens-faculty-for-repeated-misuse-of-pronouns-in-new-policy/

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  120. Ame says:

    FB – this one makes me giggle! lol!

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  121. Stephanie says:

    “I wish them all the luck in the word when they branch out in their future porn nitch market they’re setting up.”

    That isn’t so far from reality… remember Natasha (EmoGirl)? :/

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  122. Liz says:

    That isn’t so far from reality… remember Natasha (EmoGirl)?

    Yes. That was weird.
    I wonder what she’s up to now.

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  123. Farm Boy says:

    Who is Natasha (EmoGirl)?

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  124. Liz says:

    She had that Emma the Emo blog. She was posting from Sweden, I think.

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  125. Farm Boy says:

    Sweden used to be Abba and hot blondes.

    Now it seems to be something else. Something that isn’t an improvement

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  126. Stephanie says:

    She was really interesting and sweet, Farm Boy, but she wasn’t religious and had zero convictions about doing porn being bad apparently. We were like exact opposites, but somehow we really clicked and liked each other online at least.

    She never posted again as far as I know, after she started doing porn – it’s like she disappeared. In reality, she may have been murdered for all we know (her boyfriend was strange… in his 40’s and seemed to be like a refugee or dark-skinned man), it could have been one of those ploys to get someone into sex-trafficking. He could have been a Muslim refugee (?) I have no idea.

    Or my imagination might just be too wild. I do hope she’s ok.

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  127. Liz says:

    I liked Emma too. She was intelligent (mostly, exception obviously some of her life choices). She had a master’s in material engineering, I think.
    Her boyfriend was kind of notorious over there.
    Just found this link. I guess it was Norway, not Sweden:
    https://kiwifarms.net/threads/eivind-berge-nataliya-kochergova-emma-the-emo.41046/

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  128. Liz says:

    Not a very complimentary link but it’s the most recent I could find.
    She kind of disappeared.
    I liked her blog (up and until she posted the porn video)

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  129. Stephanie says:

    WOW Liz!! That’s even worse than what I knew (and wow was I wrong on him being a refugee).

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