Pride Before The Fall


Reporter:

“A supporter approaches you and says, ‘Senator, I’m old-fashioned, and my faith teaches me that marriage is between one man and one woman.’ What is your response?” 

Elizabeth Warren:

“Well, I’m going to assume it’s a guy who said that. And I’m gonna say, ‘Then just marry one woman. I’m cool with that”  Pause  “Assuming you can find one.”

There are many things to unpack here.  Let us start with the “Assuming you can find one” statement.  Yes, there are any many who are unable to find regular (or even irregular) sex.  Men are the buyers, women are the sellers, and women use their leverage; perhaps unfairly.  I am not sure that this is anything for women to gloat about; but they do.  Furthermore, as we all know, modern women are driven by unleashed hypergamy, making men at the bottom unattractive.  Being driven by unbridled hypergamy doesn’t seem to be anything to be proud of either.  But proud they are.

Many of the women out there are just plain undesirable, be it from the physical, attitude, mental health perspectives.  But that doesn’t seem to matter, as there are large swaths of men that pursue these women; sometimes even marrying them.  But often not.  These men are a bit of an embarrassment to Team Man.  But they are what they are.

There are however a reasonably large cohort of men who have achieved a measure of success in life; who realize the danger and/or lack of value in many women.  Of course, these men are prime candidates for marriage, yet they won’t come out to play.  Women can be very unhappy about this, but these men don’t gloat.  There is no pride.  There is just a just the way that it is attitude.

Compare and contrast.

Posted in alpha fux beta bux, FarmBoy, Feminism, Hypergamy
128 comments on “Pride Before The Fall
  1. Farm Boy says:

    So how does Liz Warren compare to Hillary?

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  2. Cheque d'Out says:

    Builds beautifully. Although I suppose that you have to appreciate the words to get the full impact (but this is instrumental only)

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  3. Cheque d'Out says:

    With the words

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  4. Cheque d'Out says:

    I hope she’s alright

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  5. Cheque d'Out says:

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  6. Ame says:

    A.S.T.R.O.S ! ! ! ! ! ! !

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  7. Ame says:

    looking through the pages of selections for lead-free cereal bowls on amazon and come across an ad for a bidet. in the middle of bowls. for food. gotta love it! lol!

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  8. Cheque d'Out says:

    Ahahaha

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  9. Ame says:

    Many of the women out there are just plain undesirable, be it from the physical, attitude, mental health perspectives. But that doesn’t seem to matter, as there are large swaths of men that pursue these women; sometimes even marrying them. But often not. These men are a bit of an embarrassment to Team Man. But they are what they are.

    There are however a reasonably large cohort of men who have achieved a measure of success in life; who realize the danger and/or lack of value in many women. Of course, these men are prime candidates for marriage, yet they won’t come out to play. Women can be very unhappy about this, but these men don’t gloat. There is no pride. There is just a just the way that it is attitude.

    Compare and contrast.

    the former are married to women who pine for the latter and are whiny.

    know a couple with multiple kids … she left him in the last year for the proverbial ‘pool guy,’ and he just doesn’t ‘get’ it. she’s wrong. i am NOT excusing her behavior. but from the outside looking in he assumed that simply being a Christian man who was married and fathered her children was enough. now she’s posting pics of her and her proverbial ‘pool guy’ all over facebook doing all these fun, adventurous things together when he has the kids. rumor is this ‘fling’ dates back several years into their marriage. but, you know, she’s ‘in love.’

    crazy thing . . . the proverbial ‘pool guy’ is a guy we’ve used for many years to make repairs in our home. he’s also quite a bit older than she; his kids are in their 20’s. and, imho … he is MUCH more attractive than she.

    it will be interesting how this plays out over time. i think she’ll push for marriage … he’ll say no … she’ll eventually become discouraged with him, causing her to become bitchy and no longer worth his time. if he does marry her, shame on him. to take on a young (not-so-attractive) woman with multiple kids? the ‘honeymoon’ phase will wear off eventually, and reality will set in.

    i can see her playing around for many years, sponging off various men (she does not have the capability to financially support herself) then wanting to go back to her husband b/c she needs a pad to land on. if he doesn’t wise up, he’ll take her back as-is, expect her to be ‘different,’ and live out the rest of his days in misery.

    you just want to shake these people, but very few listen and hear. as our beloved Bloom often says … let those who have ears hear.

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  10. Ame says:

    Spawny – for this very ignorant girl, would you be willing to explain what it would mean that he be given a ‘peerage.’

    [Allowed unlimited access to a pron peephole it does]

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  11. Cheque d'Out says:

    Lord ‘Nigel of Farage’ or perhaps Baron Farage(?) would have a seat in the House of Lords. Can you imagine the fun that he could have?

    Not sure he’ll take it if offered, but I wish that he would

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  12. Cheque d'Out says:

    This was Boris’ immediate reaction to the defeat of his crap deal (my description)’s chances of being adopted. Remoaniacs thought they’d forced him to abandon any chance of leaving on the 31st using their Letwin amendment. He was supposed to be crushed…

    Didn’t even look bothered. This scenario had long been wargamed

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  13. RichardP says:

    C’dOut – as we pass 10-19 and head toward 10-31, thank you again for posting everything you have posted re. Brexit. I would not have known where to look to find much of what you have posed – including that video upthread here of PM Boris saying what he said, so I would have missed it if you hadn’t posted it.

    My father’s father left Cornwall and came to America by himself when he was 17. My father’s mother’s family left Belfast and came to America when she was about the same age. My birth mother’s family came to America from Ireland proper (she was born in America). So all of the issues involved in this Brexit fight affect the ancestral homes of my immediate family. I’m the only one among my brothers and sisters that is interested in this. But interested I am. So thank you.

    Note: My father’s father worked in the copper mines in Montana for a while after he got to America. But he met and married his wife (family from Belfast) in Vancouver, B.C. It was not until I was typing this that I thought to wonder what took him from the copper mines of Montana to Vancouver, B.C. in his early 20s.

    [Eat pasties you did?]

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  14. Ame says:

    when i was at whole foods earlier today (or saturday), there was this high school girl (with her mom) bouncing around wearing daisy dukes with fringe, booties, and a thin, crop halter top. she was literally sassy-bouncy-strutting around, flinging her long, bottle-black hair while her small boobs were bouncing under her thin top.

    reminded me of Ton’s comment:

    SFC Ton says:
    17 February, 2019 at 5:39 pm
    Ton2.0 went from Tom Boy to head turner during one 6 month deployment. Got home and had to correct her wardrobe. My daughter was stunned at the need for a different set of clothes. She knew shit had changed but hadn’t put it all together until I said who was letting her dress like a hooker. My ex wife thought I was overreacting because she was only 13. And it’s some powerful shit. Probably not realistic for think a 13 year old is on top of all that shit

    Doesn’t seem like all that uncommon exepeince for girls .

    I also caught her deliberately dressed like a hooker. Took her down meathead side of town, told her if I ever caught her dressed like that again I’d drop her off to earn her keep like the rest of the whores

    Also also caught her going out drinking one night when she was I her early 20’s. Ton- thought you were to broke to drink. Ton2.0- guys will buy my drinks for me. Ton- choices. Staying home or moving out and working on Bragg Blvd like the rest of the whores.

    This is the nature of girls. Until some man teaches them better.

    https://spawnyspace.wordpress.com/2019/02/13/how-can-this-be/#comment-124780

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  15. b g says:

    Ame

    Trust me kid, I was there, it was older women, grandmothers and great aunts that controlled younger female excess. That was a gentle but desperately needed matriarchy ;-D

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  16. Cheque d'Out says:

    You’re welcome Richard. I’m kind of using this place as a diary as well as a note book to others. I’m trying to give what I consider an honest & grounded opinion of events from a Brexiteer position. You won’t find much of this stuff on UK media because they’re remoaniac extremist fake news.

    Cornish miners in the US had quite the reputation as hard men, didn’t they? And obviously they share Celtic roots with the Irish

    And the Bretons in Brittany

    Nolwenn Leroy is a French singer from Brittany, one of her albums is called ‘Bretonne’. It has songs from the Celtic regions of France and Ireland. And a few other traditional songs from elsewhere

    martolod shares the common root as the British Navy rating of matelot (‘matlow’)

    Nolwenn won one of those tv talent shows, quite the voice IMHO (here in French)

    (different album but) my favourite

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  17. Cheque d'Out says:

    Even when you can see it coming…impressive

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  18. Cheque d'Out says:

    The Letwin Amendment’s passing yesterday was the vote that triggered all the videos and tweets that I shared yesterday. I’d heard that it was just aimed at heading off no-deal. According to this tweet thread it was FAR more important than that. It was to wreck Boris’ Brexit and return us to May’s catastrophic Brexit. I don’t like either but hers is far worse than his.

    Click on the tweet to see the whole thread (it’s not long)

    Barrister’s Horse appears to be in the same stables as Political Pig (our ‘Q’)

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  19. Cheque d'Out says:

    Currently live. The lately rather erratic (for GE purposes?) Nigel

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  20. Cheque d'Out says:

    Lawyer explains what’s right and what’s WRONG with Boris’ new shit deal(tm)
    https://lawyersforbritain.org/this-flawed-deal-is-a-tolerable-price-to-pay-for-our-freedom

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  21. https://www.disrn.com/2019/10/17/nasa-will-soon-mark-first-all-woman-spacewalk/

    Men are so awesome they can even put women in space.

    NASA will witness its first all-female spacewalk Friday, as two veteran astronauts venture out of the International Space Station to repair a piece of broken equipment. Hey, remember
    when two men transported Amelia Earhart across the Atlantic like she was a sack of mail. This is pretty much the same thing.

    The astronauts, Jessica Meir and Christina Koch, will spend more than five hours outside of the space station, repairing a power regulator that manages solar energy collected by the space habitat that was blown-out because somebody wanted to use a hair-dryer to get Friday-night-ready even though they weren’t going anywhere.

    Meir and Koch are both part of NASA’s Astronaut Group 21. Koch has been on the space station since March; Meir arrived in late September. They haven’t spoken to each other since then.

    I may have edited the above for clarity.

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  22. Cheque d'Out says:

    The worst possible news in these difficult days?

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  23. Farm Boy says:

    According to “mestizo Latino and queer” student Alejandro Bupara, Cal Poly is a place that’s “really hard … to be at.” A coalition of identity interest groups wants the school to give them over $140,000 to combat, among other things, “overt racism by white students, sexual violence that disproportionally victimizes women of color and transgender people,” and a “seemingly endless flow of microaggressions.”

    https://www.thecollegefix.com/cal-poly-investigates-instagram-photo-mocking-illegal-immigrants/

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  24. Cheque d'Out says:

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  25. Farm Boy says:

    Glorious Patriarch,

    What comes next with Brexit?

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  26. Farm Boy says:

    Relevant to the OP

    If 75% of men have next to no standards, then put yourself in women’s shoes with this information. For women, 75% of men will have sex with them no matter what. It doesn’t matter how she dresses or presents herself, it doesn’t matter how she behaves, it doesn’t matter how many men she has already slept with, it doesn’t even matter if she has STDs.

    So if 75% of men have no standards then don’t be surprised if women reflect that reality.

    https://pushingrubberdownhill.com/2019/10/19/you-need-to-vet-your-women/

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  27. Farm Boy says:

    If 75% of men have next to no standards

    I do hope that it is not as high as 75%

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  28. Farm Boy says:

    “Lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender people want to be treated the same as everyone else. Radical alphabet people want to be treated differently. That is a key distinction. And that is why sane LGBT individuals take such exception to the latter category,” he wrote.

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/twitter-bans-gay-man-for-telling-inconvenient-truths-about-transgender-people/

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  29. Farm Boy says:


    There are three possible justifications for Domingo’s scourging, each more unpersuasive than the last. The first is to punish his past behavior. But his alleged infractions occurred decades ago, making punishment too belated to be just or meaningful. None of his accusers brought their objections to anyone in authority. If they wanted to punish him, that would have been the time to do so. Now, the overwhelmingly anonymous nature of the accusations and the passage of time prevent Domingo from mounting a defense. Some of the alleged incidents were undoubtedly more ambiguous than the accusers are disclosing. But without a known accuser, Domingo cannot establish the facts of these incidents, even if he could remember what may have been a fleeting and misunderstood gesture

    https://quillette.com/2019/10/18/the-defenestration-of-domingo/

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  30. I wish the Clintons (and Warren, and Bernie and etc., etc., etc. …) would go “fix” Africa. I would say, “Sorry, Africa”, but as everyone should know, Africa always wins.

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  31. Farm Boy says:

    Well, Africa could use lots of fixing.

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  32. Farm Boy says:

    I would be happy if the Windsors just didn’t advocate stupid stuff

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  33. Farm Boy says:

    Xi may face a coup

    The Taiwan News reported that even though she graduated five years ago, Chairman Xi’s daughter has returned to Harvard for graduate studies. The newspaper speculates that Xi sent her to protect her safety

    https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2019/10/xi-may-face-coup.html

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  34. Farm Boy says:

    On Tuesday, a district court judge struck down the Obama administration’s since defunct mandate forcing doctors to perform transgender surgery regardless of their religious convictions or conscientious objections. The mandate, handed down by Obama’s Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), ironically did not apply to Medicare and Medicaid or to military doctors because the government’s own research showed that transgender hormones and surgeries can be harmful.

    https://pjmedia.com/faith/court-strikes-down-obama-rule-forcing-doctors-to-perform-transgender-surgery/

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  35. Farm Boy says:

    The delusion of white-supremacy centres whiteness and the experience of white people, constructing and perpetuating the myth that white people and their lives are somehow inherently better and more valuable than people of colour.

    The delusion of patriarchy centres the male experience, and excludes/hinders female assigned people from public life (reducing them to a possession or object for ownership or consumption). Patriarchy teaches dominating and competitive behaviours, and emphasises the idea that the world is a place of scarcity, separation and powerlessness.

    The delusions of Eurocentrism include the notion that Europeans know what is best for the world.

    The delusions of hetero-sexism/heteronormativity propagate the idea that heterosexuality is ‘normal’ and that other expressions of sexuality are deviant.

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/10/20/extinction-rebellion-isnt-about-the-climate-its-about-heteronormativity/

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  36. Cheque d'Out says:

    There’s been a security breach, Boris’ second letter has been leaked

    [The female EU executives wankers too they are?]

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  37. Cheque d'Out says:

    Next? Tomorrow there’s a legal challenge to Boris’ letters in the Scottish courts. Political Pig said legal issues were expected.
    The Moggster unveils what the next Boris move is. Squeaker may, or may not, be hostile. Plenty of REEEEEing expected either way.

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  38. Cheque d'Out says:

    [Take a lighted match to it for Guy Fawkes day one could]

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  39. Liz says:

    Mike bought me a yo yo last week and we’ve all been fighting over it.
    Haven’t used one of these since elementary school.
    It’s like the original fidget-spinner.
    Probably looks like telekinesis to the dogs
    (look at that…it goes up and down….up and down…how are they doing that?)

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  40. Farm Boy says:

    Speaking of yo-yos,

    The maker of Always sanitary pads has given in to claims of discrimination by transgender men and removed the ‘Venus’ symbol of the female sex from the wrapping.

    Outraged women are now boycotting the leading brand after the decision by makers Procter & Gamble (P&G) to kowtow to trans activists who were born female and still use sanitary products.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7592413/Transgender-lobby-forces-ditch-female-logo-sanitary-towels.html

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  41. BuenaVista says:

    Grateful for the instrumental (band) version of “I vow to thee”. I played half the instruments in a military band (I really did, but I wasn’t big enough for football until in college), but this recording is led by the euphoniums, and my euphonium is my favorite, lingering artifact.

    It’s time for England to get back to being England. No sympathy if you don’t.

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  42. I don’t “get” this meme.

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  43. No sleep ’til Brexit?

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  44. Ame says:

    b g

    Ame

    Trust me kid, I was there, it was older women, grandmothers and great aunts that controlled younger female excess. That was a gentle but desperately needed matriarchy ;-D

    i glanced at her mother a few times. mom was acting like this was ‘normal.’

    irony? my mother was VERY conservative with my dress growing up … even to the point where i was not allowed to wear pants to school, even in the snow in connecticut. by the time my youngest sister came along, she must have ditched all of that b/c she was dressing like a slut from a VERY young age – 11, 12 years old. and our two lives have mirrored those two opposing requirements/lack of requirements in dress code ever since. interesting.

    my girls both know that i will say something if they get out of line – even still. and they find comfort in that.

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  45. Ame says:

    BV – I wasn’t big enough for football until in college

    my brother was a scrawny twiggy thing for years. i remember in middle school he would literally eat 24 hours a day, even eating raw eggs, to try to gain enough weight to play football. couldn’t do it, so he stayed with basketball and baseball and golf (and excelled in all three).

    he went on to grow to be 6’3″ … become a black belt … and continue to play competitive sports. still does.

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  46. Farm Boy says:


    I don’t “get” this meme.

    If you are referring the the Kamala Harris meme, the joke is that Kamala Harris has a meme maker, Ian Sams, who generates memes that fall flat on their face, like this one.

    Nobody could figure out what the point was. Also, it was a shitty photoshop job.

    Now Kamala Harris’ staff follows in the cursed footsteps of Hillary with the “birthday wish” meme.

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  47. Farm Boy says:

    The delusions of hetero-sexism/heteronormativity propagate the idea that heterosexuality is ‘normal’ and that other expressions of sexuality are deviant.

    Darwin might comment on that. But he was a white man, so he wouldn’t count

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  48. Cheque d'Out says:

    Might be worth a clicky to read the tweet thread

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  49. Cheque d'Out says:

    Matt Ridley
    Economist
    Matthew White Ridley, 5th Viscount Ridley (born 7 February 1958), commonly known as Matt Ridley, is a British journalist and businessman

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  50. @Fb Thanks for explanation. Did Hillary really tweet herself happy birthday? I mean I know it was her social media flunkies, but did no one think, wow, this really looks lame?

    Would a man ever approve of something that stupid? Not talking about a Biden or Jeb! I mean an actual man.

    Damn, did they even use Photoshop? Looks like an intro to MS Paint circa 1992.

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  51. @CdO

    I’ve long thought that y’all was gonna have to fight your way out. Same as we”ll have to do over here.

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  52. The Rope and Lamppost sounds like a good name for a Pub, btw.

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  53. Cheque d'Out says:

    The tweet thread above should worry some

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  54. Cheque d'Out says:

    I think that the Canning Town train incident shows what happens when the cops aren’t around. Two by Kipling

    Norman and Saxon

    A.D. 11.00

    “My son,” said the Norman Baron, “I am dying, and you will be heir
    To all the broad acres in England that William gave me for share
    When he conquered the Saxon at Hastings, and a nice little handful it is.
    But before you go over to rule it I want you to understand this:–

    “The Saxon is not like us Normans. His manners are not so polite.
    But he never means anything serious till he talks about justice and right.
    When he stands like an ox in the furrow – with his sullen set eyes on your own,
    And grumbles, ‘This isn’t fair dealing,’ my son, leave the Saxon alone.

    “You can horsewhip your Gascony archers, or torture your Picardy spears;
    But don’t try that game on the Saxon; you’ll have the whole brood round your ears.
    From the richest old Thane in the county to the poorest chained serf in the field,
    They’ll be at you and on you like hornets, and, if you are wise, you will yield.

    “But first you must master their language, their dialect, proverbs and songs.
    Don’t trust any clerk to interpret when they come with the tale of their wrongs.
    Let them know that you know what they’re saying; let them feel that you know what to say.
    Yes, even when you want to go hunting, hear ’em out if it takes you all day.

    They’ll drink every hour of the daylight and poach every hour of the dark.
    It’s the sport not the rabbits they’re after (we’ve plenty of game in the park).
    Don’t hang them or cut off their fingers. That’s wasteful as well as unkind,
    For a hard-bitten, South-country poacher makes the best man- at-arms you can find.

    “Appear with your wife and the children at their weddings and funerals and feasts.
    Be polite but not friendly to Bishops; be good to all poor parish priests.
    Say ‘we,’ ‘us’ and ‘ours’ when you’re talking, instead of ‘you fellows’ and ‘I.’
    Don’t ride over seeds; keep your temper; and never you tell ’em a lie!”

    And

    THE WRATH OF THE AWAKENED SAXON
    by Rudyard Kipling

    It was not part of their blood,
    It came to them very late,
    With long arrears to make good,
    When the Saxon began to hate.

    They were not easily moved,
    They were icy — willing to wait
    Till every count should be proved,
    Ere the Saxon began to hate.

    Their voices were even and low.
    Their eyes were level and straight.
    There was neither sign nor show
    When the Saxon began to hate.

    It was not preached to the crowd.
    It was not taught by the state.
    No man spoke it aloud
    When the Saxon began to hate.

    It was not suddently bred.
    It will not swiftly abate.
    Through the chilled years ahead,
    When Time shall count from the date
    That the Saxon began to hate.

    Personally I’d prefer we left with a clean brexit and then started swamp draining but the silly fuckers don’t seem to know when to stop pushing.

    Interesting times

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  55. Cheque d'Out says:

    From tonight’s TV. The fat lump on the left is Emily FiveBellies Thornberry, laba turd, previously seen in a bathing suit. The huge woman on the right is Antoinette Sandbach a recently deselected Tory MP, due to disloyalty to the party, who’ll be gone at the next election. The interviewer is Robert Peston, leftist mong.

    The next two weeks are going to be interesting

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  56. Cheque d'Out says:

    So do you think that the guy on the right sounded happy? He’s a loyal Tory
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Jenkin

    Temperatures are rising

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  57. Cheque d'Out says:

    This happened when MPs left the HoC on Saturday. There was a remoaniac demonstration on at the time
    https://skystatement.com/diane-abbott-and-jacob-rees-mogg-among-mps-abused-with-shouts-of-traitor-after-major-brexit-vote/

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  58. horsemanbombadil says:

    How people used to meet

    Any guesses why he wouldn’t say anything and what she would say in return.

    Sad. So many marriages that wont happen because talking to the cute stranger is verboten.

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  59. Farm Boy says:

    Did Hillary really tweet herself happy birthday?

    To ask the question is to answer it

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  60. Farm Boy says:

    So many marriages that wont happen because talking to the cute stranger is verboten.

    A man talks to a chick. She is not interested. Women had sufficient power before, being able to say “no”. They wanted more more, and they have it. They can now say “no” or “go to jail”, or many things in between.

    It is the world they wanted

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  61. RichardP says:

    [Eat pasties you did?]

    I did. And loved them.

    One of my fondest memories of childhood. Being at my grandparents house. She cooked on an old-fashioned wood-burning stove. Breads and muffins and pasties and other things. I remember being around age 10 sitting on the back steps, pumping up and down on the handle of the butter churn, making butter from the cream recently harvested from their cows. Could have just gone to town and bought butter at the store. But why do that when you have the equipment and cows and can make it yourself.

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  62. b g says:

    Had a good day, the Sweetie and one of her girlfriends asked if we could make fried rice for brunch. I said okay but I only have some ham and you have to bring a couple of eggs. She said no problem and made it. Some young punk is going to be one lucky kid ;-D

    Then they picked the last of the pears, one Asian and the Anjou. It has been a disappointing year, but she grabbed what was available. I did not understand until my wife passed that the Sweetie was allergic to some of the usual pesticides, because she made so much natural food. The pooch shared some of the Asian pears with her like because they have been buds for years, for an advertised fearsome pooch he is bit of a suck ;-D

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  63. Cheque d'Out says:

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  64. Farm Boy says:

    Not really sure what Hillary is up to here

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  65. Liz says:

    Not really sure what Hillary is up to here

    Never thought I’d give kudos to Hillary but….
    That was actually kind of funny. 😆
    The real foreign policy is (of course) behind the scenes and no one really knows what’s going on. But the masses (as a generality) don’t know that.

    The real story:
    The destruction of the entire world was averted by a tacit agreement that ended the Cuban Missile crisis. The key item that saved the peace was the informal agreement that the US would remove its obsolete missiles from Turkey provided that nobody ever had to admit that this was part of the deal.
    If it had been necessary to formally acknowledge every element of every agreement, well imagine what the social media pundits and “experts” of today would have done with that information. Kennedy is bowing to the USSR! He’s a Russian shill! Well…really there would have been no debate because if it were necessary to publicly acknowledge that deal at the time, it wouldn’t have happened and we’d all most likely be dead.

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  66. Liz says:

    There’s no way Hillary came up with that on her own.
    She has no sense of humor, and is nowhere near that clever.
    They’ve hired a meme shark.

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  67. Farm Boy says:

    Policy weaknesses aside, AOC is giving the government the power to determine human dignity. Government programs do not have any impact on someone’s “inherent value as a human being.” To suggest otherwise involves opening the door to totalitarianism.

    If government determines human dignity, the state can choose to withhold that dignity from certain types of people. The worst evils in human history have involved just this kind of tyranny.

    https://pjmedia.com/faith/aoc-bernie-made-me-recognize-my-inherent-value-as-a-human-being/

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  68. Farm Boy says:

    One of the criticisms: The video included “people’s butts as they jumped into the lake” but not black students.

    https://www.thecollegefix.com/hoax-confirmed-whites-only-sign-at-uw-madison-was-part-of-protest-for-underrepresented-students/

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  69. Farm Boy says:

    Competition for human feces has become cutthroat in North Korea, as authorities have burdened citizens with impossible collection quotas to prepare fertilizer for next year’s farming season

    https://americanmilitarynews.com/2019/10/citizens-fight-over-feces-to-fill-human-fertilizer-quota-in-north-korea/

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  70. Liz says:

    Heh, just looked into it and that tweet was from Jimmy Kimmel. She didn’t give him credit.

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  71. Farm Boy says:

    Ms. Crockford accused officials at the Canadian university of bowing to “outside pressure,” the result of her research showing that polar bear populations are stable and even thriving, not plummeting as a result of shrinking Arctic sea ice, defying claims of the climate change movement.

    Her dismissal, which she announced Wednesday in a post on her Polar Bear Science blog, has spurred alarm over the implications for academic freedom and the rise of the “cancel culture” for professors and scientists who challenge climate catastrophe predictions.

    https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/oct/20/susan-crockford-fired-after-finding-polar-bears-th/

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  72. Farm Boy says:

    It’s hard to think of a worse socialist metaphor than coming to a place to which a company tried to bring 25,000 jobs before being driven out by a Bernie Sanders ally to complain that capitalists don’t care.

    https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2019/10/bernie-sanders-revives-campaign-opposite-daniel-greenfield/

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  73. Farm Boy says:

    Speaking of “pride before the fall”

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  74. Liz says:

    Poor Hillary was underfunded in the 2016 election.
    Wonder who she thinks is stupid enough to believe that?
    Everyone has google, they can see her campaign had a half a billion more than Trump’s.

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  75. Farm Boy says:

    Trump made a mistake in labeling this “fake news.” Besides being too colloquial, the term is too generic and allows for the possibility that in some cases at least this dishonesty may be an accident. People make mistakes, after all. Yes, but it’s hardly ever true in these cases. It’s usually quite deliberate deception. A much, much more accurate term would be disinformation, a technique frequently employed by intelligence agencies. It’s a safe bet that many of these leaks arrived from ours. In that, our intelligence agencies were following in a grand tradition. The Soviets were experts at it.

    https://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/trumps-labeling-of-fake-news-was-an-understatement/

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  76. Liz says:

    https://babylonbee.com/news/motion-activated-lights-turn-off-presbyterian-worship-service

    Hee hee. Babylonbee. 😆

    Reminds me of this scene, from Up (his family):

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  77. Cheque d'Out says:

    Emily again

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  78. Liz says:

    I moved our vegetable plants down to the basement, and bought some indoor grow lights.
    Following in the tradition of the former owner. But nothing on so great a scale. And I doubt I’ll make enough in tomato and pepper sales to retire in Hawaii.

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  79. Farm Boy says:


    Yes, women seek validation in relationships, but weak men do as well. Why it is important as a man not to fall into this trap.

    https://pushingrubberdownhill.com/2019/10/20/podcast-123-the-validation-episode/

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  80. Cheque d'Out says:

    [The cat gravitas it has]

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  81. Liz says:

    https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2019/10/20/is-pierre-delecto-mitt-romney-secret-twitter-account/?fbclid=IwAR1y1kqqwmibV2t23xXFroq0p7KcE6U8wouMTFG8zqexIyXbkSPbTIAL_s0

    Oh boy. Mitt Romney is Pierre Delecto.
    There is so much comedy in real life.
    Quite a handle, that.
    Even Carlos Danger might be jealous.

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  82. Pretty sure most people know Trump means “lies” when he says “fake news”.

    [Much faith in people you have]

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  83. If you don’t see crazy when you look in AOC’s eyes, you’re most likely crazy too.

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  84. RichardP says:

    Thanks for the videos Cd’O. A new artist for me to check out. I’ve not really been exposed much to that style of music. Probably the closest I’ve come is Enya, out of Clannad. She has a song maybe fit for these next few weeks in the Kingdom:

    How Can I Keep from Singing

    My life goes on in endless song
    Above earth’s lamentation
    I hear the real, though far-off hymn
    That hails a new creation

    Through all the tumult and the strife
    I hear its music ringing
    It sounds an echo in my soul
    How can I keep from singing?

    While though the tempest loudly roars
    I hear the truth, it liveth
    And though the darkness ’round me close
    Songs in the night it giveth

    No storm can shake my inmost calm
    While to that rock I’m clinging
    Since love is Lord of heaven and earth
    How can I keep from singing?

    When tyrants tremble in their fear
    And hear their death knell ringing
    When friends rejoice both far and near
    How can I keep from singing?

    In prison cell and dungeon vile
    Our thoughts to them are winging
    When friends by shame are undefiled
    How can I keep from singing?

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  85. Yoda, you ought to know me better than that…

    People is not a very inclusive group the way I use it. For instance, people know to flush the toilet when finished. This is all too uncommon these days.

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  86. Cheque d'Out says:

    You’re welcome, I used to listen to Clannad. Macalla was my first album iirc.

    They provided music used in Harry’s Game
    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084053/

    I watched it back in 82. Remember loving it. I recommend it BUT do not look at spoilers!!! Couldn’t see it on YouTube but what there was contained an unflagged total spoiler.

    Very gritty. Based on a Gerald Seymour book.

    The best film I have seen about The Troubles
    15 November 2000 | by mleeper – See all my reviews
    A British agent tries to infiltrate the IRA to find an assassin and capture him before he himself is found out. I keep trying to get people to watch this film. This is the best treatment I have seen about the Troubles in Northern Ireland, the causes and the futility. Both the British and the IRA are intelligent, and we see the reasons each side does what it does. The tension is very well handled. The film PATRIOT GAMES pays tribute by borrowing some of the music, but it does not match the quality of the storytelling.

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  87. Cheque d'Out says:

    The ‘Troubles’ are much talked about lately. They’re being used as blackmail to keep us in the EU. The EU has no morality afaics. The republic fancies it’s chances of a united Ireland. So the North is not happy with Boris’deal…the DUP.

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  88. RichardP says:

    It seems that they will not vote on Boris’ deal before the 31st. I assume that means a hard exit, with no deal of any kind, on the 31st. Unless the opposition pushes through an agreement at the last minute that favors them. But wouldn’t the EU have to approve such a last-minute agreement?. Perhaps that will be the oppositions way of forcing the EU to grant an extension – to give them time to study the opposition’s agreement.

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  89. Cheque d'Out says:

    Oh noes!!!
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/10/21/boris-johnson-could-scrap-brexit-deal-john-bercow-blocks-vote/
    Don’t make me beg.

    Boris Johnson is expected to abandon Brexit legislation in Parliament rather than accept a customs union or second referendum, rebel MPs were warned on Monday night.

    Ministers are hoping to force Brexit legislation through the Commons by Thursday evening in an attempt to leave the EU by the end of the month.

    But John Bercow on Monday blocked a government attempt to hold a “clean” yes or no vote on whether MPs back the deal, seen as crucial in building the momentum needed to get it through Parliament in time for an Oct 31 exit.

    Mr Johnson must now attempt to get his 110-page Withdrawal Agreement Bill through the Commons and the Lords in the space of a week.

    However, there are growing doubts as…

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  90. Cheque d'Out says:

    Richard, I am bereft of Scoobies as to what will happen. Too many unknowns.

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  91. Cheque d'Out says:

    Pity the EU is neck deep in conspiring with our traitors to delay and confound brexit.

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  92. Ame says:

    exporting Meghan to Africa! lol!

    oops … she’s not wanted or appreciated in her ‘adopted’ ‘home’ country, which is making her very unhappy, so … Africa!

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  93. Ame says:

    so … can unhaaapy people now be exported, errr … relocated! given a new life! in Africa?!

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  94. RichardP says:

    Richard, I am bereft of Scoobies as to what will happen. Too many unknowns.

    I get that. I meant to convey that I figured the opposition would have a few tricks up their sleeves that they would pull out at the last minute. Seems they are doing just that.

    A specific question, though – and I know you might not know the answer. If the opposition passes an exit agreement favorable to them, can Parliment force B.J. to present that agreement to the EU? Or can he ignore doing that and just let the 31st arrive?

    In clicking through to other links from the link you gave, I see that someone is claiming that, even with an agreement to leave, Britain will still be subject to E.U. laws. If true, leaving with no agreement might be best, if it keeps Britain from being subject to E.U. laws.

    Brits Subject to EU Law

    I can’t imagine how they are going to condense all of the twists and turns of this story over the last couple of years so that it fits into future history books for the schoolkids.

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  95. BuenaVista says:

    Clinton says one of the problems Dem candidates have is being “out-lied.” (Her word, or words, it’s an illiterate construction.) What she’s saying publicly is that she has to lie more than the opponent to win.

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  96. Farm Boy says:

    Well, lefties do have to lie if they want to win. But the problem for them comes when the other side tells the truth

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  97. Cheque d'Out says:

    Well…I ain’t no lawyer but it’s too late for a vote of no confidence to replace Boris as PM. So the government IS the government. And negotiating with the EU is a government issue.

    But you highlight why I’ve long wanted no deal. It’s the removal of transition periods still under EU courts and laws. (I haven’t followed your link because there’s so much conflicting information out there right now that I’m really just waiting for real events rather than trying to predict them)

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  98. Cheque d'Out says:

    By the way. Good luck to the Canadians out there. It’s General Election night tonight.

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  99. RichardP says:

    From the link that Cd”O didn’t read (which is fine btw):

    The European Union (Withdrawal Agreement) Bill makes clear that it replaces the European Communities Act 1972 which gave effect to the UK’s membership of the European Economic Community.

    However it also makes clear that the Act, which means that the UK is subject to the ECJ, “continues to have effect in domestic law”.

    The Government published the Bill, which runs to 110 pages, accompanied by a further 124 pages of explanatory notes, late last night in the Commons.

    In Paragraph 2:

    – the word “it” would refer to the Withdrawal Agreement just negotiated
    – the word “Act” would refer to the EC Act of 1972.

    Paragraph 2 Restated: The Withdrawal Agreement (that which Boris got the EU to agree to) makes clear that the Act of 1972 continues to have effect in domestic law.

    The point is being made that “domestic law” includes Great Britain’s domestic law.

    If this is true, how then is the withdrawal agreement a true withdrawal agreement? How does it restore sovereignty to the U.K.? If Paragraph 2 is true, perhaps it is a bomb that B.J. inserted intentionally to blow up the vote – such that the U.K. leaves on the 31st with no agreement.

    This is such an odd thing that I think the only way we can know for sure is to wait and say what did happen, instead of trying to say what will happen..

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  100. Cill says:

    Not sure he’ll take it if offered, but I wish that he would
    I understand the former and the latter as well 😉

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  101. Cill says:

    Boris’s “deal” doesn’t look much better than May’s. I’d like to think he’s sure it won’t be accepted.

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  102. Cheque d'Out says:

    Good morning, it was 02:40 last night, that’s the reason that I tried not to wake my brain with reading more brexit stuff. I note your lack of offence and I thank you for it 😉

    But from your excerpt, it rings true. I’ve read that elsewhere. Boris’ deal has a transition period running to the end of 2020 (with another 2 years optional)…still linked to political EU courts. I don’t want no stinking transition period (even if it causes damage not to have one). They’ve had 3 1/2 fucking years…ENOUGH. There will be no successful negotiations with the EU unless there’s a deadline that they believe in. Extending things would be pointless, if there wasn’t also the fact that it’s an invitation to remoaniacs and the EU to continue to conspire to stop it altogether.

    The general theory is that Boris’ deal is better than Boris’ as there is an ability to actually GTFO. Nigel described May’s deal as the worst in history. He describe’s Boris’ as the second worst. However he’s also saying other stuff about wanting extensions that I don’t agree with

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  103. Cheque d'Out says:

    Also, I’m not sure what Boris’ desired end point is…is it really his deal?

    The DUP (whose votes help reduce the size of his problems with a minority government, but no longer solve them) are ‘angry’ with the deal. But not as angry as might be expected. I suspect that they’re in on the plans but have a role to play being anti the deal (which is their natural position to the deal anyway, they’re taking no risks. But it explains their lack of fist waving rhetoric).

    Boris(?); “See EU? We’re not getting a deal without a GE, I can’t make my shit deal fly. They won’t give me a GE. I will not allow a 2nd referendum. I will not allow a customs union (meaning no real Brexit, we’ll be tied in). Why would you give me an extension (that I told you that I didn’t want), we’re just trouble and we’re dragging you into the absolute farce of UK politics. Go ahead punx, make my millenium”

    Once we’re out, we can start negotiating with everyone (get the deals that are waiting to be signed, signed). And our negotiating strength v the EU is transmogrified because all of May’s shit deal is gone from the tabula rasa re-starting point.

    A theory…

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  104. Cheque d'Out says:

    It’s working to piss off Verhofstwat Head EU Gargoyle

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  105. Cheque d'Out says:

    Not viewed it yet but should be worth giving a whirl

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  106. Cheque d'Out says:

    Remember folks

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  107. Cheque d'Out says:

    This lady ex deputy speaker is quite good…she’s now saying that Parliament is in extraordinary times and that in her new role (don’t know what) she is hearing absolute anger from the electorate at being disenfranchised and ignored. She says that Parliament has to be aware that whilst engagement of the people in politics is good…the current mood of the nation is very dangerous indeed.

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  108. Liz says:

    Just found out tomatoes like it to be no colder than 65 (Fahrenheit).
    Yeah, that’s….not going to happen in my basement. They’ll have to settle for “not freezing”.
    Speaking of freezing….

    Mike and the guys left their campsite for a hotel room last night.
    Everything is frozen over, yesterday I guess it was just snow and freezing rain. I’ll bet they enjoyed that night in the hotel, when they finally got there.
    Found out they are in the Glenwood Springs area (a part hours outside of cell coverage, I had to call the hotels).
    They should be heading back out to look for elk today. Hopefully the weather is better.

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  109. Cheque d'Out says:

    This is pretty awkward news

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  110. RichardP says:

    Two different comments from the link Cd’O just gave:

    – Tusk is a seasoned politician, therefore he is going to say that they gave little, just as Johnson says that he got a lot. Read the detail and make up your own mind.

    – The principal and most important difference is that the UK can exit the arrangement if the future negotiations do not work out. That was the flaw with TM’s deal. We were trapped in a weak position for those coming negotiations. We are not now.

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  111. Cheque d'Out says:

    There’s about an hour till two vital votes occur. Just enough time to rewind this currently live stream (and skip adverts and mongs)

    Nigel as a radio host does not always sound like Nigel the politician.

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