Miserable Lives


Probably you have seen lots of feminists over the years.  Cable TV networks like to place them font and center.  Even before cable, one found their faces and words everywhere.  Do they ever seem happy?  Or even content?  I for one, say no.

The normal argument against the above is that they are making their case, and as such are downbeat.  But perhaps it goes deeper.  If you sense what they are using your intuition, they all seem miserable.  Tell me if you think otherwise

But what about the feminist minions?  Are they happy?  Many are not Moms.  That makes them sad.  Many are broken from riding the carousel.  Many are just plain lost in this world.   Following feminism does that.

Exit question: Are there any happy feminist warriors?

Addendum by Deti:

Most women are miserable because they don’t have strong men in their lives. Instead, they have weak men who put up with their shitty behavior.

We have weak men who put up with women’s shit because their mothers created those men.

Their mothers created those men by kicking those men’s fathers out of their lives, or by undermining their fathers, by minimizing and reducing fathers’ influence in their sons’ lives, and by shitting on and otherwise denigrating men at every turn.

Women created the very men they now deride and hate. And then wonder why they have no good men, and why they are so unhappy.

Women are now in charge. Women now run everything. And while they really really like the superficial benefits (as much consequence free sex with hot men as they could ever want; paperpusher, no-accountability jobs where they make just enough to support themselves); they don’t like the responsibility that goes with it.

Which is why women create the messes, and then demand that men fix it/clean it up.

Which is why women are always accusing weak men of screwing feminism up.

“Our new feminist society will work – if only men would fall in line and still do all the things they used to do, like go to college, get jobs earning 500% of what they need to survive, and then marry women at 35 or so when they’re done on the carousel for one reason or another.”

“This is going to work. We just need men to make sure it works and do all the heavy lifting. Women will take the credit for the few “successes”, and men must take the blame/responsibility for all the many failures.”

“if things aren’t working, it is because men are not doing what they are supposed to be doing.”

Women are in charge. The dirty little secret is that they hate being in charge, because “being in charge” requires accountability and responsibility, and women just don’t do well with that long term. They can do it. They don’t like doing it.

How do I know this?

Whenever you give women a choice between working full time and supporting a family; and staying at home and raising kids, what do they choose? The latter, every time. If they can do it at all, they do it. If a woman can quit her job and be a housewife, she’ll do it. If she can work part time only, she’ll do it.

Women REALLY do not like being primary breadwinners. They’ll do it, but they hate it. That route almost always leads to divorce. At the very least, it creates a lot, A LOT, of friction in the marriage.

Let’s face facts: A woman cannot respect a man she financially supports. She just can’t do it. She wants to be his wife and lover. But if she supports him financially, she’s his mother. And a normal woman does not want a sexual relationship with someone she views as a subordinate. She just doesn’t.

Women are in charge. And they hate it.-


Originally, [First Wave Feminist] just meant a second-wave feminist who sought, and shouldered equal opportunity and responsibility. That’s what I grew up with and it made sense to me. (Two of my forebears were relatively prominent first-wave feminists.) I learned over time, and expensively, that objectively it’s a ruse (i.e., playing both sides of the street).

My mom was a first waver. So were many of the kids I went to school with. But I was in school just as that worm was beginning to turn. The girls my age and plus or minus 4 years were more or less equal opportunity, equal responsibility, especially about sex. They were just as responsible sexually as the men were. If a chick told you she was on the pill, she was – because she didn’t want to get pregnant. She really wanted to avoid an unplanned pregnancy more than the men did, because she very well understood she’d be left holding the bag if she did get knocked up and it would be her life, not so much his, that got messed up. Girls who were sleeping around were on the pill and had their own condom supply.

The AIDS scare put a real damper on things too, especially for average men.

But things were juuuust starting to turn, because of two things: “Sexual harassment”, and “date rape”. Very quickly, women got on the “anything any man does that I don’t like is sexual harassment” bandwagon. They also very quickly spouted “if I’m on a date with a man or getting sexually involved with him and he does something I don’t like, he’s ‘date raped’ me.”

It was always about power. Women were learning they could start asserting more and more power, not just collectively, but individually, with individual men. It was “you’ll do what I want, go where I want, and say what I want, or NO SEX FOR YOU and I will tell all my friends what a douchecanoe scumbag you are and how you are SO NOT NICE and they will not sleep with you either!”

And it worked. It worked very well, with so many men trained in betadom as the only way to get women and sex.

 

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166 comments on “Miserable Lives
  1. Farm Boy says:

    Lefty types get frustrated that world is never being transformed into what they think it should be.

    Of course, human nature precludes this.

    So this leads to endless frustration as their obviously intelligent/superior ideas are never adopted / never work

    [Yes, very unhappy they would be]

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  2. earl says:

    Feminists basically hate femininity and want to either be more masculine (or what they think is masculine) or androgynous…so it would make sense women aren’t happy when they are trying to be something they’re not.

    Ever notice what feminists think is ‘masculine’ is basically what toxic masculinity is. Promiscuity, foul mouthed, no self-discipline, lack of accountability and responsibility..

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  3. Farm Boy says:

    Women are happiest being women.

    Some might consider this to be odd

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  4. h0neyc0mb says:

    Exit question: Are there any happy feminist warriors?

    No.

    And there are studies showing traditional roles make men and wimminz happier. That’ll set their (da fembots) nevva regions a-flame .. maybe a flame-retard-ant suit is in order for such encounters.

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  5. Farm Boy says:

    By “Feminist Warriors” I mean warriors for feminism

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  6. h0neyc0mb says:

    By “Feminist Warriors” I mean warriors for feminism

    The nature of all “aggrieved” groups is that the condition never improves .. even if you give’em everything they want.

    That’s the nature of the “aggrieved”.

    Without a cause .. there ain’t no money .. media .. whoring to gain.

    Make no mistake .. the media and the government hate you “white folk” .. especially you “white men” ..

    They’re at war with you .. and you (and me) do nothing about it ..

    When we start hang’em high .. that’s when things will change ..

    Then, and only then, they will be happy (about how good they have it).

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  7. Sharkly says:

    The conclusion of a recent post of mine:
    “Women won’t be happy again until collectively they’re properly repressed.”

    [ Some truth there there might be]

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  8. BuenaVista says:

    I know lots of happy feminists. But they’re equity feminists — women who sought equity in the second wave, 1970 — 1990 or -95. Helen Smith (Instapundit’s wife) is, for me, an equity feminist. She’s very red pill and plain spoken.

    Third- and fourth-wave feminists make a virtue of being victimized and unhappy. Strangely, they are successful in presenting themselves as victimized and unhappy.

    I will say, though, that I don’t (personally) know any second-wave, equity feminists who take action or even discuss changing the legal, financial, domestic law conditions that have destroyed the notion of the sovereign man. Maybe they’re happy because they have the option of playing both sides of the street. I don’t know. When I press them on the matter they insist they are not feminists.

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  9. Farm Boy says:

    What precisely is an “equity feminist”?

    One that can have their cake and eat it too?

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  10. Farm Boy says:

    A 14-year-old Fox Terrier was reunited with her owner on Friday after she went missing 12 years ago from Florida and was found Tuesday over 1,000 miles away in Pennsylvania shivering under a shed.

    https://www.foxla.com/news/florida-dog-lost-as-puppy-12-years-ago-found-under-shed-in-pennsylvania-reunited-with-owner

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  11. b g says:

    “Maybe they’re happy because they have the option of playing both sides of the street.”

    No maybe about it, all feminists are liars, cheats, and thieves. Their ridiculous lie about the supposed oppressive patriarchy is intended to cover their own affirmative action programs cheating and stealing, C’mon, this isn’t rocket science ;-D

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  12. Farm Boy says:

    C’mon, this isn’t rocket science

    But by constant gaslighting, people don’t believe what their lying eyes tell them

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  13. Farm Boy says:

    Let’s you and him fight

    Three Indiana judges are facing disciplinary charges after a drunken night out ended with two of them being shot outside of a White Castle.

    Judges Andrew Adams and Bradley Jacobs had been drinking in Indianapolis with Judge Sabrina Bell on the opening day of a judicial conference when the night took a turn for the worse.

    The three had tried to go to a strip club but instead went to a White Castle because the club was closed. While standing outside the restaurant, two men in an SUV drove by and shouted something at the group, prompting Bell to flash her middle finger at the drivers.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/two-male-judges-shot-after-female-judge-gives-middle-finger-during-drunken-night-out

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  14. Cheque d'Out says:

    More aircraft related woes.
    “50 SWISS FLIGHTS GROUNDED AMID AIRBUS A220 SAFETY FEARS”
    https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/swiss-flights-grounded-safety-fears-airbus-a220-heathrow-geneva-a9157816.html
    Engine related this time.

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  15. Cheque d'Out says:

    [The Farce strong here it is ]

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  16. earl says:

    “Women won’t be happy again until collectively they’re properly repressed.”

    Yes until they go back to what they were created for…fearing the Lord, being a helpmate to her husband, a mother to her children, a caretaker of the home, and having a healthy sexuality which is being feminine.

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  17. “What has happened to women?”, is the wrong question. Women have always been just like they are today, the difference is that there used to be societal constraints on their more hysterical tendencies. Those are all gone now and we’re suffering the inevitable consequences.

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  18. Farm Boy says:

    [Worth more than one “like” that is]

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  19. Farm Boy says:

    The biggest poll since the referendum itself, conducted for ITN by ComRes with 26,000 Britons, conclusively shows the public want Brexit sorted, with 54% of respondents saying we should support abiding by the referendum result and leave the EU. Even greater than the original 52:48 split…

    https://order-order.com/2019/10/16/huge-poll-shows-britons-want-brexit-delivered/

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  20. BuenaVista says:

    FB: “What precisely is an “equity feminist”?”

    Originally, it just meant a second-wave feminist who sought, and shouldered equal opportunity and responsibility. That’s what I grew up with and it made sense to me. (Two of my forebears were relatively prominent first-wave feminists.) I learned over time, and expensively, that objectively it’s a ruse (i.e., playing both sides of the street).

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  21. Farm Boy says:

    Yes, those women got the benefits before individuals started making adjustments in their behavior

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  22. Farm Boy says:

    “Nobody knows the extent to which the Biden family’s finances are tied into foreign countries — there is no preexisting financial relationships here — whose sole plausible nexis for giving the money to the Biden family is to curry favor. There is no other,” said Miller

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/stephen-miller-joe-biden-neck-deep-in-ukraine-corruption-with-son-hunter

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  23. https://evilbloggerlady.blogspot.com/2019/10/barred-owls-being-shot-by-feds-to-save.html

    Horrible! Government officials hunting down and killing undocumented Canadian immigrants!

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  24. horsemanbombadil says:

    Barack Obama wades into Canadian election, endorses Justin TrudeauA

    “Former U.S. president Barack Obama is weighing in on the Canadian election, urging voters to give Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau a second term in office.

    The former president issued the statement on Twitter Wednesday afternoon, with less than a week to go before the Oct. 21 federal vote.

    “I was proud to work with Justin Trudeau as President,” said Mr. Obama. “He’s a hard-working, effective leader who takes on big issues like climate change. The world needs his progressive leadership now, and I hope our neighbors to the north support him for another term.”

    I was proud to work with Justin Trudeau as President. He’s a hard-working, effective leader who takes on big issues like climate change. The world needs his progressive leadership now, and I hope our neighbors to the north support him for another term.

    — Barack Obama (@BarackObama) October 16, 2019
    Mr. Obama met Mr. Trudeau for a beer in May when he was in Ottawa to deliver a speech. Mr. Obama hosted Mr. Trudeau for an official visit at the White House in 2016, in the Democrat’s final year in office.”

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  25. horsemanbombadil says:

    Even the perfect robot man after we are driven extinct are not good enough.
    (If men are dead then designed and built by women engineers.)

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  26. Sumo says:

    S&W M&P 2.0, aka “Becky”.

    Yeah, I bought one….

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  27. RichardP says:

    From here: How boys are made

    Headline: Study: A stressful pregnancy reduces the chances of having a boy

    Statements in article:

    CNN – Moms-to-be who undergo physical or mental stress during their pregnancies are less likely to have a boy …

    … when the expectant mothers received social support .. the more social support a mother received, the greater the chance she had of having a male baby.

    Given that XX or XY chromosomes are determined at the moment of fertilization of egg by sperm, it is difficult to see how – once pregnant – a stressful pregnancy can alter the chromosome makeup of the fetus. Yet, here we have a CNN news article proclaiming exactly that.

    When you read the article, you understand that the proper headline should have been on the order of Of a thousand women surveyed who had stressful pregnancies, X% fewer boys were born than were born to a similar number of women who had non-stressful pregnancies. I do believe that is the statistic the article is discussing. But the words quoted here describing that statistic are misleading. Intentionally? A small contribution to the larger effort to destroy the commonly-accepted meaning of words?

    Shakes head and walks away.

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  28. RichardP says:

    Clarification of Of a thousand women surveyed who had stressful pregnancies, X% fewer boys were born.

    The reality is that males in utero are more fragile than females. Stress (however defined) that will leave a female fetus intact can cause a male fetus to expire. Therefore, either removed from uterus early (not born at all) or born dead (stillborn; not counted as a live birth).

    The correct generic statement is – when pregnancies are stressful, more females survive to be born live than males. But, hey – that doesn’t help support that meme that sex is not determined at birth. Why, look – we have a study that shows that the sex of a fetus can be changed mid pregnancy if the pregnancy is stressful enough.

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  29. RichardP says:

    s/b “that sex is not determined at fertilization” – not “at birth”

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  30. Farm Boy says:

    It will soon be impossible to criticise the fanatics of Extinction Rebellion.

    In fact, I will not be at all surprised if, in years to come, I and others face prosecution for having dared to doubt them.

    Soon we will be sitting in an impoverished, dark country, with a trashed economy, incessant power cuts and dismal standard of living, caused by their dogma.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7567013/amp/PETER-HITCHENS-Ill-tell-truth-fanatics-Extinction-Rebellion.html

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  31. Farm Boy says:

    Doesnt sound like an equity feminist

    Don’t settle for anything less than God’s best. God didn’t intend for you to be stressing out in relationships and trying to convert men. Newsflash, you can’t change ‘em and honestly if you feel you need to change him, he’s not for you.

    http://www.girrrlstop.com/2015/08/jesus-didnt-die-on-cross-for-you-to-be.html?m=1

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  32. Farm Boy says:

    Does the doll cry upon demand?

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  33. Farm Boy says:

    But au contraire. Research now finds there are actually seven types of sugar daddy-baby relationships, from the purely sex-for-money types to the totally platonic. The study, published last month in the journal Sociological Perspectives, interviewed 48 current and former US sugar babies

    https://nypost.com/2019/10/16/sugar-daddy-relationships-arent-just-about-cash-for-sex-study/

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  34. Cheque d'Out says:

    Extinction Rebellion having a bad morning in London

    Waitrose is the (upmarket) supermarket of choice of the status aware middle-class soy chuggers

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  35. Cheque d'Out says:

    Another angle on the first hero bell-end

    (On his feet at the end)

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  36. Farm Boy says:

    One thing nerds loved to do is play Dungeons & Dragons and, wouldn’t you know it, just like every other thing nerds hold dear, it’s now come under attack by the SJW crowd too for being “uninclusive.”

    https://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2019/10/14/sjws-now-going-dungeons-dragons-not-inclusive-enough/

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  37. Cheque d'Out says:

    Good on the DUP. They know betrayal when they see it, learned through long and bitter experience
    https://order-order.com/2019/10/17/dup-reject-boriss-proposals/

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  38. Cheque d'Out says:

    At least ER have the support of the public

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  39. Cheque d'Out says:

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  40. BuenaVista says:

    Uggh. Will the English please start acting like the English we know and love? You know, smart, murderous and arrogant? Does anyone know anyone who invents, or even uses the words, “regulatory alignment”? Evidently Nigel doesn’t, either.

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  41. BuenaVista says:

    Congrats, S’mo!

    I think my next gun porn exercise is going to be a Smith and Wesson. They have a starter AR for $515 plus whatever you’re paying the dealer, government, UPS etc. It can handle 5.56, not just .223. Thinking is I need something for houseguests and they don’t get to touch the M-4 or Beretta. But it’s a standard AR, i.e., you still get to buy the cool furniture.

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  42. Cheque d'Out says:

    So…the political mood in the UK public regarding political mastications today?

    I believe he was addressing current MPs about the outcome of the next General Election.

    And real MPs know damn well that he’s right about a lot of them

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  43. BuenaVista says:

    Jesus didn’t die on the cross so that you could vacation in Florida next to a swamp, driving a half-ton, when your best gf flies corporate to St. Bart’s.

    “Don’t settle for anything less than God’s best.”

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  44. BuenaVista says:

    CdO silences the room with another extraordinary video, this time of the young Swedish woman who somehow speaks with an American accent and makes more sense (has better delivery, diction, and sentence structure) than most of the presidential candidates.

    I got a kick out of her holding the de rigueur cup of black coffee.

    I am rarely charitable toward Swedes, being half-Norwegian, but what a charming and intelligent girl.

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  45. Cheque d'Out says:

    Angela Crayons current shadow minister for edermucation who left skule at 15 pregnant is in a difficult position as the HoC will be sitting on Saturday (probably)

    Ouch.

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  46. Cheque d'Out says:

    BV, haven’t even watched it yet myself but the recommendation came from a reliable source. Glad it worked out.

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  47. Cheque d'Out says:

    Just happened. This could be a very significant statement. The remoaniacs are absolutely desperate to keep extending the deadline. If the EU says that it won’t do that? Then Boris’ deal vs no-deal is the reality

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  48. Cheque d'Out says:

    Or parliament votes to revoke article 50 and the civil war starts. But nobody wants their fingerprints on that because it’s probable electoral suicide. Nobody except the illiberal undemocrats but then they’re a joke party desperate to separate themselves from laba policy (whatever that is)

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  49. Cheque d'Out says:

    Putting it out to the readership

    [Perhaps the blunderbus it is called]

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  50. Cheque d'Out says:

    May, or may not, be real

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  51. Liz says:

    Anyone know what this trick is called?
    Darwinawardia.

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  52. Liz says:

    There is a spectacular psychological demonstration going on right now, in front of us.
    Somehow the media has convinced just about everyone that our pullout from Syria after the defeat of ISIS (our mission) is evidence he is unpredictable and mentally unbalanced. Hasn’t he been saying we’d leave ASAP since before he was elected?
    “No! We must stay to have an amazing amount of influence with just a small footprint…this is so easy! We haven’t done this enough in the middle east….”
    I feel like I’m in some weird simulation where no one remembers what was said just yesterday.

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  53. Liz says:

    Or what happened just yesterday.
    Let’s start with the civil war in Lebanon! Syria occupied that country for 3 decades, but they were far less threat to the world than now, for some reason.
    The Russians have always had a close relationship with Damascus but now this is a new problem and very dangerous to us…for some reason.

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  54. Liz says:

    The PKK has been a designated organization for decades. We’ve moved out and given Turkey the green light to protect their population and attack the Kurds a number of times….but this time is wrong. For some reason.
    WTF?!? Thank God we’re getting the f*ck out of there.
    [/rant]

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  55. Liz says:

    terrorist organization, PKK, above. Not just “organization”. I get typos when I’m excited.

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  56. Stephanie says:

    I saw a meme that if Trump cured cancer, everyone would be out protesting it! LOL!!!

    I don’t even try anymore to make sense of the media. In fact, if they ever do start making logical sense, I’ll be a bit worried I’ve lost my own mind 😉 😀

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  57. Cheque d'Out says:

    Boris has a deal but really doesn’t appear to have the numbers to agree to it in parliament.

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  58. Cheque d'Out says:

    Sounds like a balanced opinion, listen to the end

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  59. thedeti says:

    Originally, [First Wave Feminist] just meant a second-wave feminist who sought, and shouldered equal opportunity and responsibility. That’s what I grew up with and it made sense to me. (Two of my forebears were relatively prominent first-wave feminists.) I learned over time, and expensively, that objectively it’s a ruse (i.e., playing both sides of the street).

    My mom was a first waver. So were many of the kids I went to school with. But I was in school just as that worm was beginning to turn. The girls my age and plus or minus 4 years were more or less equal opportunity, equal responsibility, especially about sex. They were just as responsible sexually as the men were. If a chick told you she was on the pill, she was – because she didn’t want to get pregnant. She really wanted to avoid an unplanned pregnancy more than the men did, because she very well understood she’d be left holding the bag if she did get knocked up and it would be her life, not so much his, that got messed up. Girls who were sleeping around were on the pill and had their own condom supply.

    The AIDS scare put a real damper on things too, especially for average men.

    But things were juuuust starting to turn, because of two things: “Sexual harassment”, and “date rape”. Very quickly, women got on the “anything any man does that I don’t like is sexual harassment” bandwagon. They also very quickly spouted “if I’m on a date with a man or getting sexually involved with him and he does something I don’t like, he’s ‘date raped’ me.”

    It was always about power. Women were learning they could start asserting more and more power, not just collectively, but individually, with individual men. It was “you’ll do what I want, go where I want, and say what I want, or NO SEX FOR YOU and I will tell all my friends what a douchecanoe scumbag you are and how you are SO NOT NICE and they will not sleep with you either!”

    And it worked. It worked very well, with so many men trained in betadom as the only way to get women and sex.

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  60. Cheque d'Out says:

    Fingers crossed

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  61. Cheque d'Out says:

    Sky News keep cutting to footage of Juncker swanning around at EU HQ.

    Everyone looks at him with the mixture of affection and consternation usually reserved for an eccentric uncle who is drunk enough to be telling some great stories but perhaps only a couple more glasses of wine away from ruining the whole wedding reception.

    Everyone loves Uncle Druncker but he’s such a liability at times

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  62. thedeti says:

    Most women are miserable because they don’t have strong men in their lives. Instead, they have weak men who put up with their shitty behavior.

    We have weak men who put up with women’s shit because their mothers created those men.

    Their mothers created those men by kicking those men’s fathers out of their lives, or by undermining their fathers, by minimizing and reducing fathers’ influence in their sons’ lives, and by shitting on and otherwise denigrating men at every turn.

    Women created the very men they now deride and hate. And then wonder why they have no good men, and why they are so unhappy.

    Women are now in charge. Women now run everything. And while they really really like the superficial benefits (as much consequence free sex with hot men as they could ever want; paperpusher, no-accountability jobs where they make just enough to support themselves); they don’t like the responsibility that goes with it.

    Which is why women create the messes, and then demand that men fix it/clean it up.

    Which is why women are always accusing weak men of screwing feminism up.

    “Our new feminist society will work – if only men would fall in line and still do all the things they used to do, like go to college, get jobs earning 500% of what they need to survive, and then marry women at 35 or so when they’re done on the carousel for one reason or another.”

    “This is going to work. We just need men to make sure it works and do all the heavy lifting. Women will take the credit for the few “successes”, and men must take the blame/responsibility for all the many failures.”

    “if things aren’t working, it is because men are not doing what they are supposed to be doing.”

    Women are in charge. The dirty little secret is that they hate being in charge, because “being in charge” requires accountability and responsibility, and women just don’t do well with that long term. They can do it. They don’t like doing it.

    How do I know this?

    Whenever you give women a choice between working full time and supporting a family; and staying at home and raising kids, what do they choose? The latter, every time. If they can do it at all, they do it. If a woman can quit her job and be a housewife, she’ll do it. If she can work part time only, she’ll do it.

    Women REALLY do not like being primary breadwinners. They’ll do it, but they hate it. That route almost always leads to divorce. At the very least, it creates a lot, A LOT, of friction in the marriage.

    Let’s face facts: A woman cannot respect a man she financially supports. She just can’t do it. She wants to be his wife and lover. But if she supports him financially, she’s his mother. And a normal woman does not want a sexual relationship with someone she views as a subordinate. She just doesn’t.

    Women are in charge. And they hate it.

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  63. Cheque d'Out says:

    BBC weasel gets a slap down followed by the wrong answer (from his Quisling point of view)

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  64. Cheque d'Out says:

    Nigel’s opinions are rather odd for a person only concerned with Brexit uber alles IMHO

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  65. Cheque d'Out says:

    Oh dear. Boris deal looks like an outsider

    (I still want no deal)

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  66. horsemanbombadil says:

    Deti

    How many times I saw this in my medical institution. I have business degrees, no meds, not even high school biology.

    But almost daily the director of care or director of nursing would come with a patient issue; DNRs, transfer to different care units, intake. All complex decisions based on patient need.
    It was their decision based on their expertise.

    And every time I had to green light it. Not by policy, the decision was theirs. No by them not wanting to take responsibility. Cause statistically 1 in 5 will go sideways.

    I gave up asking “what do you think or what is your decision” That just got me twenty minutes of well I will follow your call, its not my place yada yada deflection.

    To save time I would say “what should be done.” No you in there anywhere.
    Then I would say clearly, again to save time, “my decision is (whatever they said), do it.”

    In 15 years I likely overrode a handful of times. Pick between conflicting directors daily but override their medical decision, rarely.

    And these were women making 6 figures in charge of hundreds of patients with advanced degrees and decades of experience.

    Ugh. So glad I gave it up

    They can do it but they hate it is right.

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  67. Liz says:

    Mike is out with friends scouting for elk now.
    Last night was pretty cold. He said his water bladder hose froze. The guys he is with are from Florida, so this must be interesting. This isn’t the big trip yet though, they should be coming home tonight or tomorrow. It’s just a dress rehearsal for the big hunt.
    It was kind of funny, one of our friends did a photo shoot for Cabella’s.
    There aren’t any Cabellas around where they live (south Florida), so the first time he saw them on display was this weekend. And…he wasn’t in them, only the other guy was.
    He called up the photographer and asked why.
    While he was feeling emotionally fragile, Mike suggested it might be regional and his photos are probably on display in San Francisco Cabella’s. 😆 (no, he isn’t gay)
    This is why men are so fun.

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  68. Liz says:

    Hillary seems to like making a lot big, really horrible decisions.

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  69. texinole says:

    Women are in charge. And they hate it.

    Interesting take. A household is often a chaotic environment with several issues to balance and solve simultaneously, but its boundaries are small and fixed, so being in charge of it seems to suit them.

    If one views the household like a factory, advances in technology (especially electrical appliances and medical care) exponentially increased the “efficiency” of the house. More efficiency translates to more available time, which, in a factory, is used to expand production and create more wealth. Household efficiency, by contrast, only seems to have created more leisure time for the erstwhile bosses – ie, most women. In fact, given birth rate trends, “production” has decreased during this period of increased efficiency.

    So it should come as no surprise that they are unhappy as their primary roles have been severely disrupted by technology. Given the Pill and legal abortion has mitigated their greatest risk, many women now find themselves with

    (a) traditional duties that tech and a professionalized medical industry have made easy or unnecessary

    (b) fewer children to raise and therefore fewer demands on their time

    (c) far more disposable income given the massive gain in average household purchasing power since the Industrial Revolution

    Yet…no added responsibilities to fill the void, and no desire use that extra time to make a marginally better homelife or better children (think Tiger Moms vs Box Wine Moms).

    So women, who’s traditional manual labor having been automated/outsourced, and who’s remaining duty of physically raising little humans having been made easier than ever, seem to have dedicated themselves to mothering the world at large. Which is to say bossing everyone around while ignoring how wealth and peace are actually created.

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  70. BuenaVista says:

    Trumpster turns the Dems into the war party. There’s nothing he can’t do!

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  71. BuenaVista says:

    Taleb, of course, is the guy who puts the math to the notion “skin in the game.” He and Trump (I strongly doubt he passed Calculus II) converge, though, in Trump’s outlook: “Da fuck are we doing there and why? [We have no skin on the line.] Kill all the bad guys and get back to the Fort and wear out the wife and the swimming pool!”

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  72. Farm Boy says:

    South Park mocked NBA superstar LeBron James and his recent comments about the conflict between China and the NBA.

    In Wednesday’s episode “Let Them Eat Goo,” the lunches at South Park Elementary School are switched with healthier options after some students complain.

    Cartman, of course, becomes irate over the change and goes off when one of the students in favor of healthier lunches says they have the right to protest unhealthy options and have freedom of speech.

    “Yes, we do have freedom of speech, but at times there are ramifications for the negative that can happen when you are not thinking about others and only thinking about yourself!” Cartman yells.

    That is the exact quote James gave days ago when he was asked about Houston Rockets general manager Daryl Morey, who tweeted his support for protesters in Hong Kong, which created a tidal wave of backlash with China.

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/south-park-episode-mocks-lebron-james-china-comments-1248405

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  73. Farm Boy says:

    A Paris zoo showcased a mysterious new organism on Wednesday…a yellowish unicellular small living being which looks like a fungus but acts like an animal.

    The blob also has almost 720 sexes, can move without legs or wings and heals itself in two minutes if cut in half.

    https://www.battleswarmblog.com/?p=42280

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  74. BuenaVista says:

    Deti lands on the numbers again.

    I’ve told my Harvard Business School female graduates stories, one (ten) too many times. Suffice to say, they’re not working at 40 if they’re married. I mean, maybe some sort of mommie track, but I didn’t even see that. They are just not working, period.

    However their hate for the browbeaten HBS men they married can’t even be hidden at the Christmas party. Also told ad infinitum before. You haven’t lived until you’re at a Christmas party and none of the guests — other than one’s own, and the token artists from Brooklyn — are the only couples who touch each other. NO TOUCHING!

    ***

    I don’t think I told this story. I was building my last company, we had a major deal pending, my balance sheet was totally clean because I self-financed. I was Mr. Blue Pill, who had married someone on four days notice because “Ooops, I know I’m a Harvard MBA but I just *forgot* to take my pill. Golly.”

    BV: “I always close these deals. Always. This is gonna close. I’m gonna fucking close this thing. More wine.”

    Princess Harvard MBA, who is working 50 hours a week for an investment bank (50 hours is not very much, people, it’s borderline mommie track): “That’s great!”

    BV: “I have zero obligations on the balance sheet. It’s all going to straight cash. BAM! Two million straight to checking!”

    PHM: “What are you going to do with it?”

    BV: “Hire some guys and buy a straight-wing Citation.” (That’s the Chevy half-ton of small jets. I can not only fly it (it’s easier to fly than my Bellanca) I could get insured!)

    PHM: “Oh. I thought you might do something for us.” (Our child was 1 or so.)

    BV: “Oh, yeah. We’re not driving to NYC anymore.”

    PHM: “I mean my situation.”

    I was still in equity feminist/your house my house/your money my money mode. Because that was our deal. Within months I was in jail, first in Baltimore, then Rikers (VAWA, child abuse). Men are donkeys. If I want to drive a grain truck for the elevator I have to explain the arrest record.

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  75. BuenaVista says:

    Lizzie, I don’t know anything about elk hunting, though I did just look up when the second season starts (Oct 19). I know more than most about the high mountains, including how not to fall off one.

    So they’re going to boot pack in. Treeline is 11,800 out there. Where (elevation) are they camping?

    Are they bringing a sled to haul out the carcass? (You have snow, right?)

    What caliber long gun?

    Hope to receive a play-by-play on this hunt.

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  76. Cheque d'Out says:

    Our Q. So who really knows how much s accurate?

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  77. BuenaVista says:

    I’m fully confident that when I wake up tomorrow, whole populations will be losing their minds over Brexit and no one talking about it will be right 24 hours later.

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  78. BuenaVista says:

    Thursday porn:

    1. This is bargain AR from a storied company that sells select-fire versions to law enforcement nationally. Yup. 500 bucks at the competitive gun shop. Bud’s sells them for $515, so $600 after paying the shipping and FFL fee.

    2. This cigar will cost $6-7 on the street, $10 in NYC or LA. $2 here.

    Might be a little strong for noobs.

    I have never — ever — had a bad Rocky Patel cigar, and they have a million lines.

    https://www.thompsoncigar.com/p/rocky-patel-90-vintage-fumas-robusto-maduro/94063/#p-187113

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  79. Cheque d'Out says:

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  80. Liz says:

    Hey, BV….when they get back from scouting, I’ll find out the answer to your questions and let you know. 🙂

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  81. Farm Boy says:

    Casual misandry might play well on Twitter (and among the Democratic base), but it’s insulting to a large number of voters Warren will need to persuade in a general election if she secures the Democratic nomination.

    https://www.commentarymagazine.com/politics-ideas/campaigns-elections/elizabeth-warren-cornering-the-man-hating-vote/

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  82. Cheque d'Out says:

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  83. Cheque d'Out says:

    Meanwhile in the Netherlands

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  84. Cheque d'Out says:

    ER cameramen set to record the protest that went awry this morning

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  85. Farm Boy says:

    For Trump, the partial deplatforming will work a little differently. They won’t ban him from the site — Trump makes them money and keeps their precious “journalist” tweeters tweeting and tweeting and tweeting all day and then staying up all night tweeting — but they are sharply limiting how users can interact with his account.

    http://ace.mu.nu/archives/383822.php

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  86. Farm Boy says:

    Later in the same speech, Mortara pointed to the discrepancy in personality scores and mocked the idea that black and Hispanic students were “more personally appealing.”

    https://hotair.com/archives/john-s-2/2019/10/16/harvard-students-mocked-lawyer-brought-lawsuit-alleging-school-discriminates-asians/

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  87. Farm Boy says:

    BREAKING: Field Production Supervisor @CNN Gerald Sisnette: “The Only Way This Will Go Away is When He (Trump) Dies. Hopefully Soon.”

    — James O’Keefe (@JamesOKeefeIII) October 17, 2019

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  88. Farm Boy says:

    Back in the mists of time when I was a wee lad growing up, figures of authority in my life would routinely utter the phrase, “violence doesn’t solve anything”, usually after I had been pummeling my younger brother for looking at me funny. Even at that tender age age I found it difficult to square these words with my observable reality. For instance, I had a few big books with lots of very cool photos about World War II. It seemed to me then, and still does now, that violence solved a great many things in that particular case.

    https://pushingrubberdownhill.com/

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  89. Farm Boy says:

    A Fan Raised Almost $43K to Hand Out “Stand with Hong Kong” T-Shirts at the Lakers Season Opener

    https://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/hong-kong-lakers/

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  90. BuenaVista says:

    The spontaneous, populist response to Extinction Rebellion is historically significant, I think. The intelligentsia, the media, most of the pols — if they cannot simply suppress all information on them, write them all off as fascist know-nothings. But it’s not working, and it is pretty darn stupid for the leftists and their pretend-thugs like Antifa and the dipshits stopping the trains this morning. It brings to mind the frequented theme these days in the States: How is it, again, that the people who have no muscle or guns are going to trounce the half of the country with all of them?

    During Vietnam, there were a few confrontations between union men (almost all of them Dems). But those were fundamentally localized and limited. This is now a phenomenon across all western societies. It’s a suppressed, and long-simmering rage. Whoever runs for president for the Dems will win their archipelago — i.e., they’ll win half a dozen cities. The country has changed since 1984 and thus I don’t think Trump will win 49 states as did Reagan (over Mondale). But he may well win 45, and if he flips Minnesota (despite Minneapolis, home of Omar the Magnificent), whoa Nellie.

    Trump’s doing another rally tonight and he’s in the anti-endless-war portion of the speech. And in Texas — Texas! — they’re going berserk. I never thought I would see this.

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  91. Farm Boy says:

    The intelligentsia, the media, most of the pols — if they cannot simply suppress all information on them, write them all off as fascist know-nothings. But it’s not working, and it is pretty darn stupid for the leftists and their pretend-thugs like Antifa and the dipshits stopping the trains this morning

    The only way to stop wrongthink is by suppressing it. Logic, reason and such will not do

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  92. Farm Boy says:

    And gaslighting has its limits

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  93. BuenaVista says:

    The Remy piece is great (per usual). They’re referencing a recent event in Iowa:

    1. A pudgy millenial went to ESPN Game Day and had a sign saying he needed money to buy Busch Light. (It’s Iowa, people actually drink that stuff.)

    2. Within a few hours he’d raised $50K. He said he would donate all but the cost of a case to the University of Iowa Children’s Hospital. Iowa has the largest teaching medical facility in the USA. [Children’s Hospital is where you go when they think you’re going to die without extraordinary measures. Children come from all over the country. I grew up in the neighborhood; the doctor/profs lived in our neighborhood. I was in the original UI Children’s Hospital twice. I have very few memories of childhood, but I remember trying to climb out of my crib, but being frustrated because they had put a net over the top of my crib. When I was older I delivered my Dad’s paper to the hospital, and I sold popcorn and pop and stuff at the football stadium next door.]

    3. Within a few days he’d raised over $1mm. So the statewide newspaper, the Des Moines Register, a Gannett rag now but revered in the past when it was owned by the Cowles family (they owned Look Magazine, the Minneapolis Star-Tribune, properties like that), decided to publish his tweets from high school. He quoted some comic I’ve never heard of from a tv show I’ve never seen. He was “Racist”!

    4. Iowans were enraged with the paper, rightly seeing them trying to tear apart a modest, good guy who was 16, once.

    5. He raised $3 million for the hospital in three weeks.

    6. The paper has sponsored a famous bike ride each summer: 100,000 people ride from the Missouri to the Mississippi. It’s a rolling city, a massive party. The entire management staff for the ride quit this week.

    8. The whole thing was picked up by Reason and other national media (cf. Fox, below). Might be a tipping point in the effort to eliminate “cancel culture” says Tucker. (I doubt it.) The paper fired the asshole who dug up the tweet (he worked for the Register — from his apartment in Brooklyn NY) but not the editors who assigned the job.

    This is the tradition in Iowa City of always waving to the ill children at the end of the first quarter:

    Community is a bigger deal in some places than others. Kirk is the longest tenured coach in major college football. He was hired, originally by the man who had the room next to my Dad at the nursing home (the two of them next to the former university president), whose paper I delivered, whose son was my sister’s first real boyfriend. And on and on.

    So the Des Moines Register, with its carpetbagger Gannett-oid editor, @carolhunter, decided to tear it all down. She still has her job.

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  94. Farm Boy says:

    The alleged scientists at the London Aquarium want your help in naming their newest penguin. But this is not just some normal penguin–oh no–it is a super-fashionable “gender-neutral” penguin.

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/alleged-scientists-at-london-aquarium-seek-publics-help-in-naming-their-gender-neutral-penguin/

    [Birdy McBirdface a possibility it is]

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  95. Liz says:

    Trump’s doing another rally tonight and he’s in the anti-endless-war portion of the speech. And in Texas — Texas! — they’re going berserk. I never thought I would see this.

    I’m sorry but that can’t be right. Buttijug assured us military members are outraged that they are being forced to leave shitholes in the desert.

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  96. Be sure to go back and read the scroll on the Remy video. Good stuff.

    “I won’t do it again, honest to God. My word as a Biden!”

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  97. Some guy is yelling, “Yo, yo yo, there’s no need…” when the people are giving to the ER camera guy. You couldn’t be more wrong, sir. There is a tremendous need.

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  98. Farm Boy says:


    NBA Commissioner Adam Silver revealed on Thursday that the Chinese government insisted the league fire Houston Rockets general manager Daryl Morey over a now-deleted October 4 tweet supporting the protesters in Hong Kong, according to Time

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/china-secretly-ordered-nba-commissioner-fire-rockets-gm-over-hong-kong-tweet

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  99. Farm Boy says:

    Gratuitous cat image

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  100. Liz says:

    I don’t think anyone posted this one yet:
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/10/12/jason_whitlock_the_nba_answers_to_nike_and_nike_is_using_nba_to_go_after_trumps_policies.html

    FOX Sports 1 journalist Jason Whitlock connects the dots on how Nike influences the NBA and the athletic apparel company’s relationship with China.
    “I’m going to try to explain this,” Whitlock said Friday on FNC’s ‘Tucker Carlson Tonight.’ “It’s very simple actually. Nike is in control of basketball — the NBA, college basketball, high school. Nike is the real person driving this conversation in this thing with China. If you go back to — and I’m going to connect it to politics — in 2015, in May of 2015, President Barack Obama went to Nike’s headquarters in Portland, Oregon and announced his defense of the TPP – Trans-Pacific Partnership.”

    “A deal that was going to be very favorable for Nike, for China,” he said. “Who is the President that came after Obama and walked America away from the TPP? Donald Trump. Who is the shoe company that employs LeBron James, Colin Kaepernick and these other athletes that smear Donald Trump as racist? Who are the people constantly criticizing Donald Trump? NBA, Steve Kerr, Gregg Popovich.”
    “The NBA answers to Nike,” Whitlock declared. “Nike is a $40 billion business. The NBA is an $8 billion business. President Obama, the basketball President, friendly relationship with the NBA, went to Nike’s headquarters to announce his defense of the TPP.”

    “This thing is very simple. This is about money,” he said.
    “This is about a President that won’t cooperate with what Nike wants done,” Whitlock said on FNC. “Nike is using the NBA and its leverage over the NBA to go after this guy because they disagree with him about his policies as it relates to trade in China. It’s very simple.”

    One might consider the impact of Nike’s market share and ponder:
    Nike market cap=126 billion
    Netflix market cap=128 billion
    Amazon market cap> a trillion

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  101. Liz says:

    Bezos might just be the antiChrist.
    Just sayin

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  102. And I thought Lebron was just a greedy idiot, but it turns out he’s also an asshole.

    https://nypost.com/2019/10/17/south-park-dunks-on-lebron-james-over-hong-kong-controversy/

    South Park, now in its 23rd season, also mocked the series of “Taco Tuesday” videos that James posted online this past summer by having Cartman sing “It’s Taco Tuesday, it’s Taco Tuesday,” before inadvertently chowing down on an “Incredible Beef” taco in the school cafeteria.

    In August, James tried to trademark the term “Taco Tuesday,” but the move was blocked by the US Patent and Trademark Office on grounds that the phrase is a “commonplace term, message or expression widely used by a variety of sources that merely conveys an ordinary, familiar, well-recognized concept or sentiment.”

    He tried to trademark “Taco Tuesday”? Yep, that is definitely an asshole move.

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  103. Not many people know that Catwoman invented the pussy-pass, but its true. My word as a Biden!

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  104. Reverse angle of the above:

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  105. BuenaVista says:

    “He tried to trademark “Taco Tuesday”? Yep, that is definitely an asshole move.”

    Ohio State tried to trademark “The”. In all official communications from OSU, by edict, it’s THE Ohio State University. The want the rest of us to use THE and they wanted to license the word THE. Fortunately the US PTO did not go along.

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  106. Ame says:

    that basketball meme: “I identify as a pumpkin” is brilliant!

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  107. Ame says:

    Farm Boy
    One thing nerds loved to do is play Dungeons & Dragons and, wouldn’t you know it, just like every other thing nerds hold dear, it’s now come under attack by the SJW crowd too for being “uninclusive.”

    UNinclusive! lol!

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  108. Ame says:

    guns without Larry. sigh.

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  109. Ame says:

    BuenaVista

    Jesus didn’t die on the cross so that you could vacation in Florida next to a swamp, driving a half-ton, when your best gf flies corporate to St. Bart’s.

    “Don’t settle for anything less than God’s best.”

    define: “God’s Best.”

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  110. Ame says:

    a sarcastic question, btw … b/c those who say that do not agree to ‘God’s best’ unless it fits their personal standards of what they believe that to be – certainly, it would *never* require sacrifice of any kind that is, in fact, real and true sacrifice.

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  111. Ame says:

    priceless truth:

    thedeti
    1d ago
    Most women are miserable because they don’t have strong men in their lives. Instead, they have weak men who put up with their shitty behavior.

    We have weak men who put up with women’s shit because their mothers created those men.

    Their mothers created those men by kicking those men’s fathers out of their lives, or by undermining their fathers, by minimizing and reducing fathers’ influence in their sons’ lives, and by shitting on and otherwise denigrating men at every turn.

    Women created the very men they now deride and hate. And then wonder why they have no good men, and why they are so unhappy.

    Women are now in charge. Women now run everything. And while they really really like the superficial benefits (as much consequence free sex with hot men as they could ever want; paperpusher, no-accountability jobs where they make just enough to support themselves); they don’t like the responsibility that goes with it.

    Which is why women create the messes, and then demand that men fix it/clean it up.

    Which is why women are always accusing weak men of screwing feminism up.

    “Our new feminist society will work – if only men would fall in line and still do all the things they used to do, like go to college, get jobs earning 500% of what they need to survive, and then marry women at 35 or so when they’re done on the carousel for one reason or another.”

    “This is going to work. We just need men to make sure it works and do all the heavy lifting. Women will take the credit for the few “successes”, and men must take the blame/responsibility for all the many failures.”

    “if things aren’t working, it is because men are not doing what they are supposed to be doing.”

    Women are in charge. The dirty little secret is that they hate being in charge, because “being in charge” requires accountability and responsibility, and women just don’t do well with that long term. They can do it. They don’t like doing it.

    How do I know this?

    Whenever you give women a choice between working full time and supporting a family; and staying at home and raising kids, what do they choose? The latter, every time. If they can do it at all, they do it. If a woman can quit her job and be a housewife, she’ll do it. If she can work part time only, she’ll do it.

    Women REALLY do not like being primary breadwinners. They’ll do it, but they hate it. That route almost always leads to divorce. At the very least, it creates a lot, A LOT, of friction in the marriage.

    Let’s face facts: A woman cannot respect a man she financially supports. She just can’t do it. She wants to be his wife and lover. But if she supports him financially, she’s his mother. And a normal woman does not want a sexual relationship with someone she views as a subordinate. She just doesn’t.

    Women are in charge. And they hate it.

    i’ve always hated being in charge. i can if i need to, but i don’t like it. i guess what makes me a bit rare is that i’ve always known and acknowledged this truth.

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  112. Ame says:

    exhibit #gajillion where Horseman explains what a wise, strong man looks like:

    horsemanbombadil
    Deti

    How many times I saw this in my medical institution. I have business degrees, no meds, not even high school biology.

    But almost daily the director of care or director of nursing would come with a patient issue; DNRs, transfer to different care units, intake. All complex decisions based on patient need.
    It was their decision based on their expertise.

    And every time I had to green light it. Not by policy, the decision was theirs. No by them not wanting to take responsibility. Cause statistically 1 in 5 will go sideways.

    I gave up asking “what do you think or what is your decision” That just got me twenty minutes of well I will follow your call, its not my place yada yada deflection.

    To save time I would say “what should be done.” No you in there anywhere.
    Then I would say clearly, again to save time, “my decision is (whatever they said), do it.”

    In 15 years I likely overrode a handful of times. Pick between conflicting directors daily but override their medical decision, rarely.

    And these were women making 6 figures in charge of hundreds of patients with advanced degrees and decades of experience.

    Ugh. So glad I gave it up

    They can do it but they hate it is right.

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  113. Ame says:

    Liz

    Hillary seems to like making a lot big, really horrible decisions.

    hilz just following her own patterns of well established behavior since … birth. guess she thinks it’s good that she was allowed to live and not chopped up and sucked out of her mother’s womb.

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  114. Ame says:

    BuenaVista

    I’ve told my Harvard Business School female graduates stories, one (ten) too many times.

    i do not agree.

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  115. Ame says:

    I was still in equity feminist/your house my house/your money my money mode. Because that was our deal. Within months I was in jail, first in Baltimore, then Rikers (VAWA, child abuse). Men are donkeys. If I want to drive a grain truck for the elevator I have to explain the arrest record.

    and the 2 mil had nothing to do with it [/sarcasm].

    that totally sucks, BV.

    idk how women live with themselves when they do things like this. they must shut down all of their conscience along the way to be able to do things like this. i know … she’s one in a jillion. i guess they’ve got this maneuver down.

    when my first husband pulled the two copies of a divorce decree on my one night, handed me a copy and a pen, and said let’s go over this … between then and when he moved out, a woman i knew told me to do all these things to subtly take his money. i couldn’t do it. i guess i’m weird that way, but i have a very active conscience.

    [i still pray for you and your son when brought to mind]

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  116. Ame says:

    BV – that Hawkeyes Wave video … *tears*

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  117. Ame says:

    Liz – that nike thing … wow.

    wanna know the truth of anything? ANYthing? follow the money. ALWAYS follow the money.

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  118. Ame says:

    BuenaVista

    Ohio State tried to trademark “The”. In all official communications from OSU, by edict, it’s THE Ohio State University. The want the rest of us to use THE and they wanted to license the word THE. Fortunately the US PTO did not go along.

    i’ve noticed when NFL players from OS introduce themselves, they always emphasize the “the’. ugh.

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  119. BuenaVista says:

    Ame: “BV – that Hawkeyes Wave video … *tears*,

    I’m a pretty tough guy and I used to do pretty tough things that no one else would do and a lot of people think I’m a pretty tough asshole, if a useful and effective asshole, as a result. There’s a role for us. As the idiot fourth grade teachers say brightly, “It takes all kinds!”

    When I’m in the tavern, as I will be tomorrow, watching the game (I disconnected the TV 10 years ago at home) and the first quarter ends I have to go outside because pretty tough assholish guys don’t cry at sentimental exercises on the TV in a bar. I’m sure a lot of it is just an older man’s memory of childhood and its web of memories, a lot of it is my unusual history of hospital experiences, but some of it is this: I know half of those children are going to be dead. There are all those hugs and kisses in the video, but those children are alone and they will die alone. They don’t tell you you’re going to be dead. Not as a child, not as an adult. Adults, however, know something’s up because all the medical staff are acting weird.

    So I hate the wave thing as much as I admire my community for creating it. I hate it because it layers sentiment on saccharine images of love and joy, for popular consumption, as though it’s pizza and beer. It is kitsch as much as it is true. I go outside, I put on the sunglasses and I smoke the cigar in the truck. BV don’t cry in bars.

    Thanks a lot, Ame, for taking a look at the video. That’s my hometown, and that’s how we do things there.

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  120. BuenaVista says:

    The only place worse than Columbus, Ohio, to watch a football game, is Lincoln, Nebraska.

    Once I took my IBM client to an OSU game. He is nutso for Buckeye football. Okay, fine. I got us two tix, midfield, mid-stands, they were $500 each. No biggee, business expense. I really liked the client, we were having a ball cheering for different teams.

    Problem was, Iowa almost beat them. I cheered for Iowa. In the high-rent district of the stands, where everyone is loaded and well-dressed and bringing their sons, a guy threatened me — he threatened my physical person. He had a little boy with him. Usually I laugh at those MFers but I had a tremulous IBM middle manager with me, and technically I was working. I smiled and said, “Sorry.” So fuck Ohio State.

    Nebraska’s like that, only there’s a reason why it’s the lowest rated university in the Big Ten. They dumber.

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  121. Ame says:

    my first husband was a cowboys fan … obsessed to the core of every cell in his body-cowboys-fan … viciously hate every other team-cowboys-fan.

    while in DC once on biz, he went to a cowboys/redskins game in RFK stadium … sat in the middle of redskins fans … and stood up and cheered for the cowboys. got all manner of things thrown at him. made it out alive and uninjured – probably b/c dallas lost that game.

    – – –

    i only know of one person from nebraska. he’s a nice guy, but i think his family would fall under ‘white trash.’ i knew his wife growing up and have a love/hate relationship with her, so idk him well.

    – – –

    i love your hometown, BV. that sounds like a remarkable place to live and even more so to grow up.

    – – –

    i think it’s hard for people to know what to do, if anything, about kids like that … or people in harsh situations. i know there’s lots of ‘info’ out there now … you know – the lists of what not to do and say to a person experiencing _____. those get old fast b/c there’s no way we can memorize all the lists of all the things to make sure we don’t hurt any of the feelings. i think people in difficult situations need to quickly learn to easily forgive those who don’t know better when they say and do ‘stupid’ things.

    anyway … it may not be much when you’re the one in the hospital, or it’s your kid … but it’s something. it’s something that random people can do. to take a moment to show they care but don’t know how to care. i’m sure it’s meaningless to some, but, wow, what a huge deal to others.

    had to take Oldest to the children’s hospital in the big city closest to us when she was 6.5 months old. had to spend one night. had to have some tests run. that was a powerful experience. you see all manner of things in a place like that. (best part of the whole experience was that since i was nursing her, they brought me food … and it was surprisingly really good!) .

    it’s hard for most people to know how to process/deal with/ react to/ respond to stuff like that. we have no place for it. but to take a moment at every game to turn around and wave at the kids? i think that’s a pretty awesome thing to do … even if BV needs to go outside, with his shades on, and smoke a good cigar 🙂

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  122. Ame says:

    several years ago i went back to my late Mentor’s grave. i needed to. idk why, i just needed to. as i walked around, i noticed she was buried close to a lot of babies and children. it was … i don’t even know what it was. i can’t imagine, and don’t want to.

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  123. Liz says:

    Okay, they came home for the day after scouting and will spend the night and go out again.
    They needed to get some more warm weather kit. 😆
    It was very cold. Mike now owns the warmest sleeping bag available, plus liner.
    Tomorrow is the first official day of the hunt.

    So they’re going to boot pack in. Treeline is 11,800 out there. Where (elevation) are they camping?
    They are at about 10,000 feet.

    Are they bringing a sled to haul out the carcass? (You have snow, right?)
    No. I asked about this, but I guess there isn’t that much snow and the terrain is very rough.

    What caliber long gun?
    Mike’s is a Remington 700, 7mm.

    I guess the odds of getting an elk are about 20 percent. They saw tracks but never saw an elk, so far.

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  124. Stephanie says:

    “my first husband was a cowboys fan … obsessed to the core of every cell in his body-cowboys-fan … viciously hate every other team-cowboys-fan.”

    I wouldn’t have thought it possible for them to still have those die-hard fans LOL… especially the, “viciously hate every other team cowboys-fan!”

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  125. Stephanie says:

    “anyway … it may not be much when you’re the one in the hospital, or it’s your kid … but it’s something. it’s something that random people can do. to take a moment to show they care but don’t know how to care.”

    I’d say probably 98% of people have no idea what to do in those situations. I know it’s hard for some people to accept others helping them, or trying to do something, but it is really kind when they let others try. So many people feel pain *for* the ones hurting, even if the family doesn’t quite realize it… and doing something – anything – that can help is nice.

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  126. Stephanie says:

    “(best part of the whole experience was that since i was nursing her, they brought me food … and it was surprisingly really good!) .”

    This is one of the reasons I love the hospital I give birth at!!! Really great food for a hospital LOL And I don’t have to make it… it’s like… actually BROUGHT to me!!!!! So awesome 😀

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  127. Stephanie says:

    This sounds insane, but I look at it as a kind of resort stay where I have the baby, and then get pampered for a little while (2-3 days). It’s nice… only hard thing is missing my husband and kids at night.

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  128. Stephanie says:

    Maybe it comes down to the euphoria of having a newborn, too, it’s just such a beautiful experience… throw in tasty food, brought to you, and it’s SO nice LOL

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  129. b g says:

    Liz

    I hope you meant 7 mm Magnum, because otherwise he is under gunned, Even when well hit, elk take some killing.

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  130. Ame says:

    Stephanie
    3h ago
    “my first husband was a cowboys fan … obsessed to the core of every cell in his body-cowboys-fan … viciously hate every other team-cowboys-fan.”

    I wouldn’t have thought it possible for them to still have those die-hard fans LOL… especially the, “viciously hate every other team cowboys-fan!”

    LOL!

    there are actually quite a few die-hard cowboy’s fans!

    however … imho, they won’t really win w/jerry … 1. he doesn’t need the money winning will bring in; the cowboys organization already makes a TON of money. 2. he’d have to give up some control, and he won’t. that’s my non-intense-football-person opinion! lol!

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  131. Ame says:

    Stephanie – it IS like being at a resort! lol! having food BROUGHT to you, already cooked! woo hoo!!!

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  132. Sumo says:

    having food BROUGHT to you, already cooked!

    That’s called a “restaurant”. While it may be something of an odd concept, I’m fair certain that it’s going to catch on.

    [Become rich you will if open one you do]

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  133. b g says:

    Hmmm, my wife worked as a part time front clerk at our hospital, she had access to all the info and feared negative reports for everybody but especially for kids. She also feared the elderly couple that showed up when one was likely terminal, what the hell could you do? She just helped their paperwork and desperately did not cry.

    [So sad this is]

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  134. RichardP says:

    Stephanie – any word on the policeman fellow that was injured and in the hospital?

    @Ame said: idk how women live with themselves when they do things like this.

    Been going on since at least Potiphar’s wife – who got Joseph put into jail. She did not seem to have any problems with falsley accusing him.

    @Ame said: i noticed she was buried close to a lot of babies and children. it was … i don’t even know what it was. i can’t imagine, and don’t want to.

    When I worked at the Pentagon, I was stationed at Ft Myer. Ft Myer is at the top of a tall hill, which slopes down to the Pentagon situated beside the Potomac River at the bottom (Google Maps is your friend). I (and many others) used to walk back and forth to work through Arlington Cemetery. Coming up the hill from the Pentagon, maybe half-a-block before the low stone fence that surrounded Ft Myer, I discovered two grave markers. Twin babies that had lived for maybe five days. Died a day or two apart – not both on the same day. In 1910 or something. Long time ago. FIred the imagination. My birth mother had twin boys before my twin brother and I were born. They lived for three or four days before dying (blue babies). (And she died a few hours after I was born from a ruptured brain aneurysm.) So those two grave markers grabbed my attention. A couple of times a year I would seek out the markers and ponder things for a few minutes. Who were they? What was their family like? Did they have any relatives that still came to see their graves? That created a visual image for me that I won’t ever forget. And now maybe you won’t either.

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  135. BuenaVista says:

    I like being in the hospital — especially the Dilaudid and self-serve morphine (click click click!) — but I am such a light sleeper that the last two times I released myself weeks before they wanted. There’s something thoughtlessly bizarre about waking people up even in the ICU every couple of hours for weeks on end. Then people like me stare at the ceiling because they can’t go back to sleep for an hour before being re-awakened.

    Once, in Canada, where my hospital was badly overcrowded (it’s free!) I was bedded 36″ from a woman dying of lung cancer. They couldn’t give her enough drugs to suppress the hacking and the screams. And she screamed all night. Not whimper. Death-screams. Her massive French Catholic family visited all day. I got no sleep for three weeks. (The OGA is fond of sleep deprivation as a non-torture form of torture.) I felt like a shitheel (and was treated like one by the Nurse Ratcheds) for asking to be moved. I wasn’t allowed to fly (pneumothorax) so I ordered up a car to drive out from Montreal, gave them their lung-pump back, spent the night in the Intercontinental with a bottle of wine, and then rode back to DC in an Amtrak sleeper. Once home I went to bed for a week. My doctor in Quebec actually sympathized with me, in respect of the “how do I recover if you guys won’t let me sleep?” question. But, nothing he could do, etc.

    Spent a few weeks in hospital, Tokyo. They let you sleep. I had a Japanese friend who slept on the floor outside my room. And one of my nurses and I had a flirtatious thing going. I think both of them ran interference.

    Not fond of hospital food. After a few days I start losing a pound a day.

    I think new mothers are allowed much more time in the hospital post-partum in some other countries, which I applaud, again because I don’t know how anyone recovers from anything if they can’t sleep.

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  136. BuenaVista says:

    Thank you, Liz. I have the 700 in .270 (deer cartridge). I am also a very cold sleeper for some reason, and have been my whole life. It’s been a real problem. Best wishes to the elk murderers, who are probably already slogging up some fireroad in the dark.

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  137. Liz says:

    Yes, 77 magnum, bg. 🙂

    Agreed on the sleep thing, BV. The sicker you are, the more often they are obligated to wake you up to do stuff to you. I’ve had a few terminal lung cancer patients. It is terrible. 😦

    Best wishes to the elk murderers, who are probably already slogging up some fireroad in the dark.

    Thanks BV! Mike is a cold sleeper too…I kind of worry even with all the kit they’re bringing. His pack weighs 52 pound right now, with the rifle he’ll be carrying about 62. This is going to be pretty sporting. They ran into a little guy out there who was about 5’6” and weighed probably 130 pounds, carrying a backpack twice that size. He’d been out there a couple of weeks. He showed them the best spot to chistel through the ice to get water. People our here are hard core!

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  138. Ame says:

    BV – the elk murderers,

    LOL!

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  139. Ame says:

    Richard – Been going on since at least Potiphar’s wife – who got Joseph put into jail. She did not seem to have any problems with falsley accusing him.

    you’re right. i know women who wouldn’t bat an eye at doing things like this, but i can’t. i also have a terribly guilty conscience.

    I (and many others) used to walk back and forth to work through Arlington Cemetery. . . . Who were they? What was their family like? Did they have any relatives that still came to see their graves? That created a visual image for me that I won’t ever forget. And now maybe you won’t either.

    picturing that … no words.

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  140. Ame says:

    love BV’s stories … around the world in the hospital 🙂

    picturing Liz cozying up to the fireplace while her men are doing man vs beast and nature things 🙂 … happy Liz; happy men 🙂

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  141. Ame says:

    Sumo
    having food BROUGHT to you, already cooked!

    That’s called a “restaurant”. While it may be something of an odd concept, I’m fair certain that it’s going to catch on.

    LOLOL!!!

    Sumo – my research challenge this week:
    find a restaurant for my Oldest’s birthday with at least one dish that she would like that is, or can easily be adapted to be:
    – dairy free
    – grain free
    – soy free
    – no seafood
    – no salad greens

    she *can* eat seafood and salad greens on this dairy-free/grain-free diet, but she’s never liked them despite giving them a good try many times.

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  142. Ame says:

    BV – I think new mothers are allowed much more time in the hospital post-partum in some other countries, which I applaud, again because I don’t know how anyone recovers from anything if they can’t sleep.

    iirc, a law was enacted sometime between when my babies were born (97 and 00) that allowed new mothers an extra night in the hospital. i enjoyed every moment of that extra night after my second was born 🙂

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  143. Liz says:

    Our boys are massive.
    So of course, they’ve scoffed at the 52 pound pack.
    “My school backpack is heavier than this!”
    “I could run a marathon wearing that…”
    and so forth.
    Mike has decided they are mean spirited, and this is why he doesn’t like children.
    😆

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  144. Liz says:

    A friend of ours had a baby last month (think it was last month).
    She was only 26 weeks along. The baby was so so tiny.
    Today she mentioned “Today God put me in the right place at the right time. My sweet (name of baby) was switched from an oscillator to a ventilator and I was able to hold his bed during the transition!”

    We are so fortunate and blessed.

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  145. Stephanie says:

    Wow, BV, your experiences are always so interesting.

    This part, “I think new mothers are allowed much more time in the hospital post-partum in some other countries, which I applaud, again because I don’t know how anyone recovers from anything if they can’t sleep.”

    ^I’ve never needed long to recover. But I’ve had only c-sections (3) so maybe that’s the difference. Usually that takes women *longer* than normal to recover, but for some reason, I don’t even feel the pain, and am up and walking around like normal 2 hours after being cut open.

    Last time with our daughter (3rd c-section), I scared one of the doctors because he thought I was just a visitor in the room, I looked that healed and, “normal,” for some reason.

    I’m REALLY glad my body is like that though. Much rather would recover in 2 hours and feel 100% than have it drag out for days. This is probably why it’s such a nice stay, in retrospect LOL

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  146. Ame says:

    Liz

    Our boys are massive.
    So of course, they’ve scoffed at the 52 pound pack.
    “My school backpack is heavier than this!”
    “I could run a marathon wearing that…”
    and so forth.
    Mike has decided they are mean spirited, and this is why he doesn’t like children.

    lol! always a bit ‘harsh’ to get a dose of our own medicine … from our own children! lol!

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  147. Ame says:

    Liz

    A friend of ours had a baby last month (think it was last month).
    She was only 26 weeks along. The baby was so so tiny.
    Today she mentioned “Today God put me in the right place at the right time. My sweet (name of baby) was switched from an oscillator to a ventilator and I was able to hold his bed during the transition!”

    We are so fortunate and blessed.

    ahhh … so sweet! i’ve known a few of those tiny ones over the years … most are young adults now 🙂

    but i remember when their head and shoulders would fit in your hand.

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  148. Liz says:

    lol! always a bit ‘harsh’ to get a dose of our own medicine … from our own children! lol!

    Heh, he couldn’t be more proud. 🙂

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  149. Liz says:

    I should mention, Mike and his friends are on this hunting trip. The boys couldn’t get out of school/sports. If they were going to have to hike that pack around, they would’ve sung a different tune. Or they’d be the ones carrying all that kit.

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  150. Ame says:


    Liz

    lol! always a bit ‘harsh’ to get a dose of our own medicine … from our own children! lol!

    Heh, he couldn’t be more proud. 🙂

    after i posted that comment i thought that it might not have portrayed that truth 🙂

    as my daughters give me the opportunity to say often, “I’m proud of my work!” 🙂

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