Whither Manosphere Part II

Deti writes:

There’s pushback now. There’s been a reaction to Game. First one was the attempt to coopt Game to “build a better beta”. That had some success. Where it didn’t work, women are starting to Gameproof themselves. That’s in part evidenced by rampant flaking and further differentiation and striation by women of the “top 20% men”.

But most of the reaction is the emotional “INCELINCELINCELINCEL AAAAARRRRGGGHHH” response to anything man-centric. Any complaint by any man anywhere about dating, sex, mating, marriage – “you’re just an incel”. Any identification of things that don’t work for men in those arenas – “INCEL!” Man having a tough time in life? “INCEL!” Man got divorced? “He deserved it because he’s an INCEL!”

The implication is clear: If you are a man and you’re complaining about something, you’re not only unattractive, you’re a criminal. You’re evil. You’re a threat. Because incel = Eliot Rodger. Incel = Toronto van murderer. Incel = murderer of women. And we cannot have that.

The INCEL! rejoinder is used because that’s the quality of our political and social discourse now. It works. Like “RACIST!” and “SEXIST!” and “HOMOPHOBE!” Emotionally driven reactions for the purpose of inflaming passions and prejudices are very effective, and it’s worked very well to marginalize men who are getting left behind, and more and more men are getting left behind every year.

They are working hard to keep men and their complaints marginalized.   How long will it work?   Can it last forever?

One might think that over the course of time that yelling INCEL will get old and people will notice that there is nothing in that response.  But then, the world is less than rational.

I am waiting to see if Trump will go the last mile, to state that criticism of a minority/protected group member is not necessarily racist and that the automatic assumption of such is intellectually feeble.  It might come.

As for the Manosphere, there always is a need for people to push back against the BS that Feminist types push.


Posted in FarmBoy, Feminism, Lies, Trainwreck
126 comments on “Whither Manosphere Part II
  1. Farm Boy says:

    it’s worked very well to marginalize men

    According to AOC, marginalized groups should riot

    Liked by 3 people

  2. If you find yourself asking, “Why are they going after white guys so hard?”, you need to ask yourself, “Well, who is actually a threat to them?” and then you’ll have your answer.

    Liked by 1 person

  3. Farm Boy says:

    We should all base our lives off of AOC proclamations.

    Or should we…


  4. okrahead says:

    Deti is usually right… no exception here.

    Liked by 2 people

  5. okrahead says:

    The one caveat being that women cannot actually “game proof” themselves any more than men can immunize themselves to the charms of attractive women.

    Liked by 4 people

  6. earl says:

    The sexual revolution, the pill, and hookup culture have all been failures in the male-female dynamics. What I’d like to know is if the incel thing happened in the past when every other society that went over the cliff did the same thing we are in now.

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  7. Farm Boy says:

    Yes, if your game is good, there is little defense.

    Not all fellas who adopted game do it well. Many implement it is a clumsy manner, often “over-doing” it


  8. Liz says:

    I am waiting to see if Trump will go the last mile, to state that criticism of a minority/protected group member is not necessarily racist and that the automatic assumption of such is intellectually feeble.

    Respectfully, I think he does this all the time right now.
    Not by explaining, by demonstrating.

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  9. okrahead says:

    Genetic studies say yes. Historically speaking most men did not reproduce.

    Liked by 1 person

  10. BuenaVista says:

    I agree that Trump does it now, and the Baltimore kerfuffle is exhibit A.

    All the ranting he’s received has been met by Baltimore residents on camera saying, “Well, ya. He’s right.” And of course the individual words (like “infested”) that are supposed to be stone dead proof he’s a racist have been previously uttered by Cummings and Sanders.

    But if the Republicans don’t want to do split screen ads showing this, no one will know. That is the question with that party. They usually play to lose.

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  11. Larry G says:

    Screw the popcorn! This Demoncunt circus calls for chicken nuggets (with dipping sauce)!


  12. h0neyc0mb says:


  13. Cheque d'Out says:

    Greta is here to save us.

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  14. Farm Boy says:

    “Now as a white woman, who has certainly experienced enormous amounts of white privilege. I travel with a staff member who is black, and I see how she is being treated differently when we walk into a hotel. I see it, and it infuriates me.”

    Now I’ll ask this: why didn’t she speak up to the offending hotel staff? Surely she would’ve have regaled the Netroots attendees with her story of how she gallantly defended her staff member.

    Because it falls into the category of Things-That-Didn’t-Happen, that’s why. That tale is yet another case of the desperate Gillibrand desperately pandering for votes


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  15. Farm Boy says:

    Make it not so


  16. Cheque d'Out says:

    Ahh the old avoid being prosecuted yourself by distancing yourself from the doomed party years too late. Should work

    Liked by 1 person

  17. Hearing more chatter about Moochelle announcing her candidacy later this year. That would actually make Trump work for it come 2020. She’d be a real threat.

    I still wonder why Oprah never ran. She would have won easily. There must be a lot well-gnawed skeletons in her many, many closets.

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  18. Farm Boy says:

    Lets face it, Mchelle Obama is just not very likable. She needs that, as she doesn’t have anything else but the Obama name

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  19. Farm Boy says:

    “Socialism Sucks: Two Economists Drink Their Way Through the Unfree World,” by Robert Lawson and Benjamin Powell, is billed as a “worldwide tour guide written in plain English” which takes readers on a not-so-luxurious expedition into three countries that have embraced socialism – North Korea, Venezuela, and Cuba – using beer as an indicator of economic concern.



  20. Cheque d'Out says:

    Shame etc

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  21. horsemanbombadil says:


    Honk honk

    Blacks create an industry that has value, whether through legal or illegal means, and white folks change the rules, change the language, and change the perception in order to bring about a change in ownership

    We can choose to rigorously pursue equity and reparations for decades of disproportionate criminalization and economic impairment. We can choose not to ignore the continued disproportionate accumulation of wealth in privileged quarters. But we must choose.


  22. Cheque d'Out says:

    Oh dear, the death of UKIP looms


  23. horsemanbombadil says:

    Marginalize those who do the actual work, produce what you eat, build where you live?

    Incentives matter.

    I am waiting for the next major hurricane etc. Men will man up during as they always have.

    But the rebuilding?
    Uh no, I can’t reframe your house, you wouldn’t want an incel in your home would you?

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  24. Ame says:

    my dad is back in the hospital … fluid on the lungs … rough night …but they caught it very early as the day nurse checks his lungs daily … my sister is punch-drunk from no sleep but has to leave tomorrow to come back home b/c begins school in-service monday.

    i made him a wall hanging, and they got it yesterday afternoon … his wife called me, and i’m now on the happy list! she told me she loves me! ahhh! *hint … bit of sarcasm in there 😉 * she was so shocked that it matched her decor in her home. i, of course, had called my dad and asked about her decor b/c i knew that if i wanted him to hang it on the wall it needed to pass by her, first. i’m no dummy 🙂

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  25. Ame says:

    she can’t believe i’m SO talented! it’s good not to show all your cards at once 🙂

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  26. horsemanbombadil says:

    The best revenge is to withhold skills the offender desperately needs.

    Its also great comedy

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  27. Liz says:

    I still wonder why Oprah never ran. She would have won easily.

    What would she gain by being president?

    [Stress, plus 100 pounds she would]

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  28. Liz says:

    Chief of staff would be a horrible job.
    Hyten, selected for Vice-Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, has been on headline news recently due to a sexual assault allegation. But this is a crappy job. It’s like a living hell. I just don’t understand why anyone would want that (or the presidency).
    We know someone who might be Chief of Staff soon. I asked Mike if he’d heard anything and he said, “No, but if he gets it I feel sorry for the poor bastard”.

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  29. Ame says:

    Horseman’s link:

    The food-service industry is also adapting to this trend. The rise of dark kitchens is making the industry more app-friendly: These cramped restaurants, typically with no dining room and usually located in downtown cores, harbour cooks who prepare meals for food-delivery apps. They are not easy to find, but they are out there, in most Canadian cities. In Europe and parts of the United States, these dark kitchens even use robotics and artificial intelligence to manage orders and prepare meals, significantly reducing costs. With drones and highly sophisticated delivery options, costs will likely decrease even more, making home cooking the more expensive option, especially for people living alone.

    With these technologies, ordering in is gradually becoming a more cost-effective, dietary choice. That is the one feature that can make home cooking least attractive for everyone, not just the younger generations. Why bother cooking when it means a household generates more food waste and spends more on food?

    this is really tragic 😦

    and drones cooking food? where’s the love in that?!

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  30. Ame says:

    i’m with Liz on those high-profile jobs, inc prez. to be under a microscope continuously, even after your term ends, no thank you. i’m guessing it’s *easier* for those who have grown up with it? idk.

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  31. Liz says:

    this is really tragic 😦
    and drones cooking food? where’s the love in that?!

    It is sad. Reminds me of a black mirror episode.
    But some day most of our food probably will come from 3D printers.

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  32. Liz says:

    i’m guessing it’s *easier* for those who have grown up with it? idk.

    Celebrity kids don’t usually turn out very well.
    For high profile military positions, it goes kind of like this:
    They start grooming you early as an officer so you’ll have a certain pedigree.
    These are career boosting positions and schools, and it’s a great honor to be selected and you get more responsibility. Eventually you’re in a position where you either can’t say no or they make it very painful to do so. They try to wave future good deals in your face to get you to take the bad “go to this shytehole remote assignment for a year and we’ll give you a wing!” doesn’t always happen, but it puts them in the pool where it might happen.
    Just about everyone becomes institutionalized and they’re afraid to get out.
    Also, there’s a huge emotional investment in the people. It wasn’t easy for Mike to leave either…you feel like you’re letting everyone down. But we’re very very happy to be sprung out.

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  33. horsemanbombadil says:

    I still wonder why Oprah never ran. She would have won easily.

    What would she gain by being president?


    About thirty pounds!

    Oh no he didn’t!!!

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  34. Liz says:

    Forgot to add: Once you pin on a star, you have no choices. They tell you where to go, and when you can leave. A friend of ours just retired, and he had to wait two years after he filled in his paperwork to get permission to retire. 3 star.

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  35. Ame says:

    Just about everyone becomes institutionalized and they’re afraid to get out.
    Also, there’s a huge emotional investment in the people.

    i can’t imagine. it sounds oppressive.

    It wasn’t easy for Mike to leave either…you feel like you’re letting everyone down. But we’re very very happy to be sprung out.

    sooooooo happy for y’all.

    since you’ve mentioned he still keeps up with a lot of the men that he’s still able to help those guys. what a gift your Mike is 🙂

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  36. @Liz
    That’s a good question about Oprah. So rich and influential already, so it’s a actually a good decision. She might not be the egomaniac I think she is.

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  37. Ame says:

    Forgot to add: Once you pin on a star, you have no choices. They tell you where to go, and when you can leave. A friend of ours just retired, and he had to wait two years after he filled in his paperwork to get permission to retire. 3 star.

    you’ve mentioned stuff like this before, Liz. i had no idea they have so much control over you. that seems … suffocating 😦


  38. Farm Boy says:

    A 79-year-old woman from Ohio will have to spend 10 days in jail for feeding stray cats.



  39. Liz says:

    LOL Had to share.
    Our college aged son is coming home and I bought him a cake (another from the Masterpiece Cakeshop). His birthday was pretty recent (the cake has his name and birthdate on it so I won’t post an image, but it’s really spectacular….has a fighter plane on it too).
    I sent a text with a photo and our son gets home before Mike (he’s on a trip until tomorrow night).
    The text exchange:
    Mike: “Very cool! I would say wait for me but I am a realist.”

    Son #1: “Sorry, you snooze you loose. No mercy in this family when it comes to cake.”

    Mike: “I invoke my right to prima torte.”

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  40. Ame says:

    lol! that’s awesome, Liz! i know you’re very happy to have your son home 🙂 🙂 🙂

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  41. Ame says:

    my sister leaves tomorrow, and after staying with them for six weeks, she pretty much knows the ‘lay of the land’ in their home. the wife doesn’t cook or do much of anything – doesn’t take out the trash, take care of the pets, etc. (she must have been good in bed – why else would he marry her?!!!) anyway, i digress. lol!

    so, i got the wife’s permission to find someone local to prepare meals for them. he is an insulin dependent diabetic and recovering from heart surgery and NEEDS to eat. his blood sugar dropped to 50 at the hospital and no one caught it but my sister! (their systems went down, and the nurses were ‘lost’ and his wife didn’t catch it). sister got him some OJ and ordered food and made sure he ate after getting him insulin.

    my sister says the wife is very self centered (i know … same ol’ same ol’ ad nauseam). going to try to encourage him to look into a diabetic alert dog, too.

    found someone through a local friend who i think will be perfect.

    anyway … it made me think of that cooking link Horseman posted above. it looks like in all age groups cooking is becoming a lost art, something to avoid, and/or something no one has time to learn or do anymore. i think that’s really tragic.

    i remember when Oldest was in high school she had a couple friends over, and we made homemade pizzas – homemade crust, homemade sauce. and one didn’t like it b/c it wasn’t ready-made. her mother doesn’t cook. she’d rather eat a frozen pizza than homemade. my girls are so used to homemade foods they hate prepared foods (YAY!).


  42. Cheque d'Out says:

    [Boobs she has]

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  43. Cheque d'Out says:

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  44. Cheque d'Out says:

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  45. b g says:

    “I invoke my right to prima torte.”

    LOL, tell your man that his pun is so bad that it approaches good ;-D

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  46. b g says:


    “You can’t buy it at the store, you have to make it.” Wisdom given from my wife to both the Sweetie and the Kiddo ;-D .

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  47. Cheque d'Out says:

    He was clearly woke back in the day


  48. Farm Boy says:

    He was a good pilot, but a poor tactician

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  49. There will never be a…a universal “I told you so” moment. If it comes, all (men included) will wish it had not come to pass, because it will be a situation equivalent to the dwarves in Moria. None rejoice at doomsday, not even the doomsayers.

    But there *will* be undeserved mercies that nevertheless required us to qualify for them, months or years earlier.

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  50. Liz says:

    😆 That RAF pilot story reminds me of one at a Wayne Newton show in Las Vegas.
    They were having some pilot reunion, and someone told Wayne that Robin Olds, a famous ace (think he had more combat hours than any other living pilot, or something like that), was in the crowd.
    So…he invited Mr Olds onto the stage. And he was inebriated (as was his custom), so he took the mic and sang “Sammy Small” to a crowd of mostly old ladies.
    Here are the lyrics:

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  51. Ame says:

    eeek! they came back and said it’s Congestive Heart Failure. earlier they said there was fluid but they couldn’t say for sure it was pneumonia. guess that’s cause it wasn’t.


  52. Ame says:

    ‘magic black ICE hat’


    that’s hilarious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  53. Ame says:

    Farm Boy and Liz – those pilot stories are HILARIOUS!!!!!!! LOLOL!

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  54. Cheque d'Out says:

    The film of Douglas Bader’s biography. The whole film. English dialogue.

    Much more than just a war story. The guy was a genuine hero. My dad met him once.

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  55. Cheque d'Out says:

    Reach for the sky.


  56. Liz says:

    Aw, sorry Ame. 😦 I know quite a few people who lived many years with CHF.
    Pulmonary edema sucks though.

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  57. Ame says:

    thanks, Liz. i’ve heard of it over the years, of course, but i don’t understand what it is or how that’s different from a heart attack. i’m kinda lost here.

    but … the good news is that he’s comfortable and he ate really well today, which has been a HUGE issue.

    this girl i found to cook for them is really awesome – has done this a lot, has lots of experience and tons of nutritional knowledge/experience. so i hope they let her do her thing. he needs to eat when he comes home … and something other than oatmeal – certainly not a good food for an insulin dependent diabetic anyway.


  58. Anyone else think she hears, “I am Greta Thunberg. I am Greta THUNBERG! I am GRETA THUNBERG! I AM GRETA THUNBERG!” being chanted inside her head all day every day?


  59. BuenaVista says:

    I am a huge Robin Olds fan. He was such fearsome fighting commander that they tried to shoehorn him into Colo Sprgs (note to crowd: That’s how Colorado Springs is spelled according to the Colorado Department of Transportation; Colorado Springs is where the Air Force Academy is), but I don’t think it went very well.

    Unless Col. Mike disapproves (you cannot go USAF now if you behave like Olds), I should think this is a must-have for the Liz household:

    The guy who owns the FBO where I have my Bellanca (Upper NW Bumfuck, ‘Murrica) was AF enlisted working on F-105s (Thuds) at the base in Thailand that Olds commanded. (Olds flew F-4’s.) Supersonic at low altitude. He runs a couple of Air Tractor sprayers now with his son, in addition. At 75 or 80, he’s had his sprayer incidents (it’s more dangerous, statiscally, than combat flying these days, and they all crash), but you’d have to observe it to believe it. (Sometimes you go under the powerlines.)

    This is a Thud:

    This is an Air Tractor in motion. Probably looks modest, but they’re so heavy when freshly loaded they only pull 2-300 fpm climb on departure, and are rolling into 90 degree wingovers at the end of each field — and do it 12-14 hours a day. We use them, adapted, in Special Ops now and sell them to the third world as ground attack tools.

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  60. BuenaVista says:

    Disregard that video, it’s the wrong one.

    Pilot notes that during his turns, which are really wingovers, stall horn blares. This is routine.

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  61. horsemanbombadil says:

    There will never be a…a universal “I told you so” moment. If it comes, all (men included) will wish it had not come to pass, because it will be a situation equivalent to the dwarves in Moria.

    Certainty of death, small chance of success…what are we waiting for??

    Let them come. There is one dwarf in Moria who still draws breath.

    In the outlying areas many who are self sufficient will be fine. We party like its 1899 already.


  62. horsemanbombadil says:

    I’d rather, and will, go down working, building, fighting for me and mine than submit to those who would leech us into collapse.

    I am John Galt

    With a blue jacket and yellow boots.

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  63. Liz says:

    Unless Col. Mike disapproves (you cannot go USAF now if you behave like Olds), I should think this is a must-have for the Liz household

    Hey thanks for the book recommendation BV. I might have it on the shelf already but if not I’ll get a copy. 🙂
    Olds is an example Mike has used frequently against the current climate of zero tolerance policies. He actually knew him (well, they’d sat at the bar and chatted a time or two at the squadron).

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  64. Farm Boy says:


    Hope it all works out

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  65. Farm Boy says:

    SAN DIEGO, CA—A polar bear at the San Diego Zoo has apologized to black bears, brown bears, and all other mammals of color for his “problematic whiteness.”


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  66. BuenaVista says:

    Lucky Col. Mike.

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  67. Farm Boy says:

    As the overwhelming applause died down, more details were revealed. Portman made a point to clarify that, while her character would wield Mjolnir, the powerful hammer of Norse mythology, she would still ask a man for help any time she needed to actually hammer in a “nail or something.”

    “For example,” Natalie explained, “If my character needs a picture frame or letterboard or some other decoration hung on a wall, she’d still ask Hemsworth’s character for help with that, naturally.”



  68. Farm Boy says:

    Liz should watch this at her own risk


  69. BuenaVista says:

    That was just strike one.

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  70. b g says:


    I hope your Dad does okay. I was diagnosed with CHF, largely by accident, almost a decade ago. CHF is a problem on my Mom’s side, Diabetes on my Dad’s. Your Dad has both which is tough.

    But lifestyle modification and prescriptions to control blood pressure can largely correct CHF. I had to reduce sodium, which is tough. One piece of bacon while the kids have forty eleven. Less single malt and only a few puffs of a cigar, but hey there seems to be no limit on vegetables or exercise. Hang in there kid ;-D.

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  71. Ame says:

    Thank you, Farm Boy.

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  72. Farm Boy says:

    For the aviation minded,

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  73. Ame says:

    thank you, BG.

    y’all make me smile 🙂

    One piece of bacon while the kids have forty eleven



  74. Farm Boy says:

    Oh, and cutting your dick off tends to do bad things to your small remaining amount of mental stability.


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  75. Liz says:

    Liz should watch this at her own risk

    Heh, fortunately the internet is too slow this morning to watch it. I’ll have to wait until later. 🙂

    BV, that first link didn’t work for me (Kamala black vote).

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  76. Yoda says:

    And a good thing it would be

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  77. Farm Boy says:

    “Stop looking for s— to get mad about.”
    — Ellen Pompeo

    “Grey’s Anatomy” star Ellen Pompeo caught some serious backlash on social media after she made critical comments about Kamala Harris that some say were racially charged



  78. Farm Boy says:

    Have you ever noticed the popularity of white robots? The reason for these shades of technological white may be racism, according to new research.



  79. Farm Boy says:

    FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. (AP) — A Florida man accused of trying to slash a Walmart employee with scissors now faces federal charges after allegedly threatening President Donald Trump while he was being arrested.

    Federal court records show Mohammed Omar Haji Mohammed, 36, is charged with making threats against the president.

    The alleged threats, translated into English by the FBI, include: “We are coming for you Trump. We are coming for you with knives. God will send angels to destroy you.”



  80. Ame says:

    ‘when a woman says 5 minutes’ – LOL!

    ‘the kitten printer ran out of ink’ … AHHHHH!!!

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  81. Ame says:

    and that dachshund military doggie! 🙂

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  82. Farm Boy says:

    You can see bias at every level at the organization,” he said. “One thing that I’ve noticed that just handling routine issues is plagued with bias. Like they will get a report, an email from a liberal reporter complaining about something and they will jump on it and they will fix the issue very, very quickly.”

    Cernekee told Carlson how it took nine months to fix a bug he reported that returned “Mein Kampf” to people who search for Trump’s book “Crippled America.”

    “They just stalled at every opportunity,” said Cernekee. “They assigned it to people who no longer work there. They made every excuse in the book to avoid taking down something that made Donald Trump look bad. And I saw a number of other incidents just like that.”



  83. Farm Boy says:

    “All the Democrats have to do to win is to come off less crazy than Trump — and, of course, they’re blowing it!” Maher said. “Coming across as unserious people who are going to take away all your money so migrants from Honduras can go to college for free and get a major in ‘America sucks.’”


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  84. BuenaVista says:

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  85. Cheque d'Out says:

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  86. Farm Boy says:

    Kind of like lefties that will destroy what pays for the goodies that they like to distribute


  87. Farm Boy says:


  88. Farm Boy says:

    So here is a way to show it is a lie.

    Ask any white conservative, including one who supports Trump, the following three questions:

    1) Do you have more in common with, and are you personally more comfortable in the company of, a white leftist or a black conservative?

    2) Would you rather have nine white leftists or nine black conservatives on the U.S. Supreme Court?

    3) Would you rather your child marry a black Christian conservative or a white non-Christian liberal?

    A white racist would prefer the whites in each case.


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  89. Cheque d'Out says:

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  90. Ame says:

    Parking your longhorns out in front of the Whataburger is as Texan as it gets, but maybe a bit cruel pic.twitter.com/abNuFUbfO5

    — David Burge (@iowahawkblog) August 3, 2019

    heh! Whataburger was recently bought out by someone up north, and it has made a lot of texans VERY unhappy 🙂

    i personally don’t care for it much, but i don’t care for fast food, either. however, it is a Texas thang 😉


  91. Farm Boy says:


    Do Texans really do this?

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  92. Ame says:

    LOL Farm Boy! that’s hilarious!

    never seen it done before, but then again, it is a big state 😉

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