It’s Nothing Personal


A favorite tactic of public figure type women who are criticized is to state that they, personally, are being attacked.  Anita Sarkeesian, the late Emily Hart, the Squad (Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, Rashida Tlaib, Illhan Omar and that other one), etc. have engaged in this behavior many times.  Then there usually comes the accusations of death threats, which is the ultimate tool to shut down criticism.

Their personalities might be appealing or unappealing; what matters is what they said.  Does it stand up to scrutiny?  What if logic, facts and reason are applied?  These women are mostly highly educated and consider themselves part of the intellectual elite; with the ability to handle complex topics with nuance and all.  Yet they avoid using their self-described superior skills to defend their positions.  This should be telling, but for many people it is apparently not.

Short answer — when you see people trying to deflect criticism as a personal attack, even when the criticisms is of the ideas and not the person, then you should assume that there is nothing to their argument.

P.S.  When emotion is overly used, then that is another tip-off; but that is a subject for another post.

Posted in Feminism, Lies, Politics, Why
112 comments on “It’s Nothing Personal
  1. BuenaVista says:

    Breaking protocol, because I always try to be a good peanut in the gallery, but recently I asserted that “Top Gun” was totally gay.

    QED.

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  2. Farm Boy says:

    So Kelly McGillis was a good fit, so to speak

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  3. Farm Boy says:

    The crux of the fracas was largely caused by the fact that a woman (Lori) declared that men (should) also have (at least) a share of the decision-making power in the spouse-choosing process.

    This bit of truth seems intuitive to me, but obviously, western society has become so riddled with feminist hamstertalk, that this truth is no longer obvious, nor goes without contention

    https://sigmaframe.wordpress.com/2019/07/16/news-flash-men-still-prefer-debt-free-virgins-without-tattoos/

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  4. Farm Boy says:

    But while large numbers of modern Christian women have adopted the UMC life script, they aren’t getting the warnings not to overdo it that their secular sisters are receiving

    https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2019/07/17/marriage-and-children-were-always-her-priority/

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  5. Farm Boy says:

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  6. parody account, of course only presented here for pearl clutching and shock. enjoy! https://mobile.twitter.com/HrmQueene

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  7. Farm Boy says:

    “She was only petite but she had the strength of a fully grown man. The only time I’ve seen anything like that was when someone had just dropped acid, she had super strength,” he said, according to The Sun.

    https://nypost.com/2019/07/18/passengers-mid-flight-meltdown-caused-hijack-scare/

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  8. Stephanie says:

    This is a long Ton absence, hope he’s ok… Saw this recently, a good old thread –

    https://spawnyspace.wordpress.com/2018/07/26/tons-approach/

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  9. Presidential candidate Marianne Williamson (D) ripped President Donald Trump on Wednesday evening for his “dangerous” rally that was out of the “fascist playbook,” warning Americans to think about how Hitler came to power in Nazi Germany.

    If there was no Hitler, who would be the boogey man that they’d constantly be smearing Trump as another incarnation of? Can’t be any of the commies. How far back would they have to go? The Kaiser? Nobody today know who the Kaiser was.

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  10. “These women are mostly highly educated and consider themselves part of the intellectual elite;”

    “Highly educated” literally means the opposite today.

    “Intellectual elite”.

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  11. Stephanie says:

    This is probably an old topic by now, but finally finished a post on Christian female ministries/ministers

    https://girlwithadragonflytattoo.com/2019/07/19/email-questions-should-women-be-in-ministries/

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  12. Liz says:

    If there was no Hitler, who would be the boogey man that they’d constantly be smearing Trump as another incarnation of?

    Vlad the Impaler? Rasputin?

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  13. Liz says:

    Not sure if this has been posted yet. Definitely worth sharing. 😆

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  14. Liz says:

    A post from elsewhere:
    -I use a fake name when I meet girls while traveling (and pretend to be single) and while that is probably good security, it sometimes feels like I am two guys. But really..I want to be just one, encompassing both those sides of my personality. It’s not even about sleeping with lots of girls – I want to be able to do and say all the same things I do on dates even when I’m home on Dad Mode. I remember an online date quite a long time ago which went really well (genuine connection with the girl – if I hadn’t been married she would have been girlfriend material) and at one point when I was taking her from one bar to the next, she giggled and looked at me and said something like “Whatever happens..nothing bothers you” with this kind of wondering look in her eyes. I can’t even remember what triggered her comment..but that feeling – being that Man in control – that’s what I want all the time.

    Fear. Fear of what? Of being caught out of being discovered. Of consequences.

    I don’t even know how to fix this, but I’m beginning to think it’s really holding me back. I’m only pulling this out of my subconscious and looking at it closely now.

    I’ve always envisioned myself as an “authentic” bank robber.
    The only problem is, I’m worried about getting caught. How do I live as my “dynamic, passionate, authentic” self without the baggage of worrying about the obvious irrelevancy of consequences to me actual family? Maybe my personal guilt is also getting in the way….how do I get over all this, bros?

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  15. BuenaVista says:

    “It’s holding me back. I’m only pulling this out of my subconscious and looking at it closely now.”

    So there’s a modern philosopher-king.

    I could provide the female-centric equivalent but that would require an anecdote.

    People do stuff that trivializes their existence, and then, for some reason, want to talk about it and gain sympathy for their incoherent personal “thoughts.” Because doing so is brave and edgy. Like some 600-word story in Teen Vogue.

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  16. RichardP says:

    For those who use the Bible as the standard for how to behave, it is easy to automatically point to the hierarchy created by God in Genesis and reinforced by the New Testament leaders: she – help; he – rule over. Nothing in that hierarchy speaks to the issue of the competence of either party. It is not an issue of competence, or superior / inferior. It is an issue of whose agenda is supposed to be followed.

    There is a useful discussion of that hierarchy at the Ton’s Approach thread that Stephanie linked to above.

    However, in that thread, Ame raises the point that I get stuck on every time this she help, he rule over hierarchy is discussed. It is easy to see how that hierarchy is necessary, and works well, when the family is living off of the land and succeeds or fails through the strength of their own muscles (he and sons wrestles a harvest from the land; she and daughters enables them through feeding and clothing them, etc.) But what about now, with all of the labor-saving devices we have? He writes code for a living, at a location 15 miles from home. She can still feed him by packing his lunch, but that effort is far different from the housewife with few or no labor-saving devices feeding multiple farm workers three times a day.

    We do well by our kids when we teach them God’s hierarchy in its proper form – she helps; he rules over – as laid out at the Ton’s Approach thread that Stephanie linked to. But we fail our kids if we cannot then go on to answer the question that Ame raises in the link below. What is a proper working out of God’s hierarchy in today’s world?

    What is there to help with?

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  17. Larry G says:

    Steph,
    “This is probably an old topic by now, but finally finished a post on Christian female ministries/ministers”

    I walked out and never returned to a church that hired a female minister…it is the height of female arrogance and I’ll have no part of it

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  18. Farm Boy says:

    Well, nobody expects a cat to be a bank robber. You have it made

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  19. Farm Boy says:


    Trump Blasts Democrats For Supporting Infanticide: ‘What Happened To Our Values?’

    “Virtually every top Democrat also now supports late-term abortion

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/49697/trump-blasts-democrats-supporting-infanticide-what-paul-bois

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  20. Farm Boy says:

    Congressional security officials have met with all four members of the “squad,” comprising Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., Ayanna Pressley, D-Mass., and Rashida Tlaib, D-Mich., over concerns about their safety as lawmakers.

    Fox News has learned that threats have not increased for them this week.

    https://www.weaselzippers.us/426475-congressional-security-threats-against-four-far-left-dems-have-not-increased-despite-their-claims/

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  21. Yeah, suck it bitches. One guy. One, wasn’t a complete idiot.

    “I just think there’s a more moral way to do it.”

    Like what? Wrap’em in bubble wrap and fly them out first class on British Airways?

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  22. Farm Boy says:

    Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) has added her preferred gender pronouns to her presidential campaign’s official Twitter account.

    As of Friday morning, Warren’s bio on the website read, “U.S. Senator, former teacher, and candidate for president. Wife, mom…grandmother, and Okie. She/hers. Official campaign account.”

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/453865-warren-adds-her-pronouns-to-twitter-bio

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  23. Farm Boy says:

    What personal pronouns does a cat use?

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  24. Liz says:

    What personal pronouns does a cat use?

    Always the royal “we”.
    (non-binaries stole it, they did)

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  25. Ame says:

    i’m behind reading today … but saw this 🙂

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  26. Ame says:

    BuenaVista

    Breaking protocol, because I always try to be a good peanut in the gallery, but recently I asserted that “Top Gun” was totally gay.

    QED.

    Good lord, how naive are you people? The original is one of the all time classics of gay cinemahttps://t.co/xltfQdDwZf

    — David Burge (@iowahawkblog) July 18, 2019

    LOL!

    i still love the movie.

    and i don’t think it’s gay.

    corny … yes.

    i mean … i’ve never been in the military, but when Kelly walks in and the instructor tells these fighter pilots that she’s a civilian so “You do *not* salute her,” … really? like they wouldn’t know they don’t salute a civilian?

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  27. Farm Boy says:

    Damselling” is internet slang for being a constant attention whore and drama cyclone and always claiming you’re under attack, usually to gain sympathy, White Knights, and even money (especially through Patreon donations) and jobs (from leftwing media looking for leftwing “victims” of the right).

    http://ace.mu.nu/archives/382394.php

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  28. Ame says:

    Farm Boy

    But while large numbers of modern Christian women have adopted the UMC life script, they aren’t getting the warnings not to overdo it that their secular sisters are receiving

    https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2019/07/17/marriage-and-children-were-always-her-priority/

    whoa, Farm Boy … just read that. there’s some serious stuff in there. i do have some thoughts but am tired tonight so not sure they’ll be articulated properly.

    i would venture to guess that the ‘blame’ for this can be laid on the mother’s of these women … mother’s who didn’t like being under the authority of their husbands so taught their daughters to get out there! get that degree and career! (pssst … shhh …so you don’t have to be beholden to anyone or dependent upon any man like i am on your father … shhh).

    the other part is that *Christian* women are VERY caught up in,
    “The Lord led me to do ______” … or, “The Lord has *not* led me to _____.”
    where this come into play with dating and marriage is that some think they need a lightening bolt (ahem, their infinite check list and super ‘godly’ handsome successful man) before they act.

    anyway … more complex than that.

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  29. Ame says:

    interesting … i’ve been talking to my dad a lot this week b/c he’s in the hospital awaiting a triple bipass (need lab numbers to get to the right place or some such something like that). anyway, had some conversations about my mother and things she did and told me vs. his perception of how things were. over and over the two are vastly different.

    he believed that, even though she was knocked up (with me) when they married, they were in love. she actually wrote me a letter once (her handwriting) saying she wanted a baby so got pregnant. i probably shouldn’t have told my dad that, but i did. he was … shocked. struck dumb. couldn’t even reply or speak for awhile.

    she told me not too many years ago, “You have no idea how many times I wanted to leave you when you were growing up.” again … my dad was dumbfounded. he had no idea.

    the nice thing is that he keeps telling me over and over and over that he *did* want me from the time he knew i existed. i’m starting to believe him b/c he’s saying it over and over and over … “I loved you. I wanted you.”

    to be very honest, if not for you men out here, i probably wouldn’t believe him. but i haven’t heard one man out in the manosphere say he didn’t want his child when he knew it existed. every man (that i’ve read, granted i haven’t read but a breath of it all out here) loves and wants his own children.

    and the stories … of how she presented one way to her husband, another to her family, another to their children, etc, etc … and it was lived out while i was growing up.

    bless his heart … he truly believed they got married because they loved each other. and he truly believed they had something good while i was growing up. he was so disillusioned. she never really wanted *him* … she wanted a baby. and someone to support her. and he was her ticket. then when she got it, she didn’t like it and whined and bitched till she finally left him after forty-something years of marriage (with well over a mil settlement that she has totally gone through and is left destitute. and NONE of us feel responsible for her.)

    not sure i should have shared all these things with him while he’s laid up in a hospital bed hooked up to all kinds of things so they can prevent that final widow-maker heart attack before they open him up … but it truly was … enlightening.

    i would never have been able to *see* his *side* without y’all having taught me so much these last several years or so. so, thank you.

    i told him she’s probably multiple-personality-disorder, and he replied, “Now THAT I can believe.”

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  30. Ame says:

    it was kinda funny b/c, at one point, he went on and on about how wonderful his wife is of the last ten years … i thought it was a bit over-the-top … till i realized i was on speaker phone and she was in the room! lolol!

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  31. Farm Boy says:

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  32. Ame says:

    that dog’s smile looks photoshopped, but it’s still adorable!

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  33. Ame says:

    whoa … my Dad found out a little while ago they’re going to do a quadruple bipass rather than a triple. eeek! 3 didn’t worry me. for some reason 4 has me a bit freaked out. the surgeon is the best and does this surgery daily, so he’s in good hands.

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  34. RichardP says:

    @Ame said …the surgeon is the best and does this surgery daily, so he’s in good hands.

    If you get the opportunity (or can make the opportunity), tell your father that.

    My father had quadruple bypass surgery some time back (he has since passed). I was surprised to discover that he was very concerned about whether he would survive. My natural response was to laugh at him and tell him that this operation has been around long enough that most doctors could do it in their sleep. Dad’s response was “oh, it’s so good to hear you laugh”. That seemed to break something in him, and his worries subsided quite a bit. I doubt they went away completely. But for him to hear me be not concerned and and be reassuring to him knocked down most of his concern.

    Ame, you might consider that in light of your father as well. Of course we can’t know the future, and the unexpected does pop up. But assume your dad is concerned and reassure him that you think he will be fine – even if your aren’t sure. Don’t let him see your uncertainty (if you have any). It really is amazing the affect that we can have on each other in terms of helping to speed up the healing process. Or, the opposite – slowing down the healing process by being negative.

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  35. Ame says:

    Richard – thanks. he’s actually the one who’s been telling me that. he said that every nurse that comes in has told him this doc’s the best … that friends are telling him that … even has a friend who had the surgery by this same doc 20 years ago and saying this guy’s the best.

    they told him he’ll be sitting up in a chair eating dinner tonight.

    it really is amazing what they can do.

    i told him he’ll probably out-live me.

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  36. Ame says:

    that baby and the kitty popping its head up and down in the cup holder is SOOOO adorable!!!

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  37. @Ame

    “he believed that, even though she was knocked up (with me) when they married, they were in love. she actually wrote me a letter once (her handwriting) saying she wanted a baby so got pregnant. i probably shouldn’t have told my dad that, but i did. he was … shocked. struck dumb. couldn’t even reply or speak for awhile.

    she told me not too many years ago, “You have no idea how many times I wanted to leave you when you were growing up.” again … my dad was dumbfounded. he had no idea.

    not sure i should have shared all these things with him while he’s laid up in a hospital bed hooked up to all kinds of things so they can prevent that final widow-maker heart attack before they open him up … but it truly was … enlightening.

    Holy fuck…

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  38. Farm Boy says:

    The Left observes what Kaufmann calls “asymmetrical multiculturalism” — the belief that every racial/ethnic identity should be asserted and celebrated, except white identity. This, says Kaufmann, is a strategy that works for “psychological liberals,” but not for everybody else

    https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/asymmetrical-multiculturalism-eric-kaufmann-white-nationalism/

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  39. Farm Boy says:

    Oberlin ordered to pay $6.5 million in attorney’s fees and expenses to bakery it defamed

    https://www.thecollegefix.com/oberlin-ordered-to-pay-6-5-million-in-attorneys-fees-and-expenses-to-bakery-it-defamed/

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  40. horsemanbombadil says:

    You can only vote in socialism once.

    Like life itself,
    Capitalism and free societies only spontaneously appear on an exceedingly rare basis under even rarer conditions.

    Once corrupted, the soil is sterile forever

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  41. Farm Boy says:

    But if you look at the picture in the BBC article, by design the seats quite obviously take up extra space in order to assuage feminist envy of men. It isn’t about saving space at all.

    She also made a second chair intended for women which encourages sitters to push their legs apart.

    https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2019/07/19/manspreading-is-about-envy-not-space/

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  42. horsemanbombadil says:

    Other than european monarchies evolving over centuries
    And the once in forever arising of Canada and U.S. out of virgin landscapes

    No free societies have ever spontaniously arisen out of failed systems

    Regime change is just that, change from one oppression to another.

    Mow the wild field and leave it to recover becomes a different wild field, a thick green lawn never arises.

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  43. Farm Boy says:

    One of the annoying statements that the shadow foreign secretary [Emily Thornberry] makes is that the position that has been enunciated is consistent with ‘Labour values’. But as I understand Labour values, we are a democratic party and we respect the electorate. In the largest single vote in the democratic history of this country, the electorate voted to leave the EU. If the Labour Party ignores that vote it will do serious damage to democracy, to the economy and to Labour’s prospects. It will take a very long time to recover.

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/07/19/labour-will-be-in-serious-peril-if-it-loses-its-working-class-voters/

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  44. Ame says:

    KH – it’s interesting because i didn’t know he didn’t know. i just assumed he knew what she was doing. HE thought he knew who she was and what she was doing. now we’re both finding out that we’re wrong … that, or he’s a really good actor … or his memory is sporadic or ‘distorted’ from time.

    it’s causing me to go back through memories and wonder how much was all her, and how much he was a part of that, and what was him.

    he said he was working all the time, and he was. i just never really separated their knowledge of what was going on.

    hindsight is not 20/20, it’s distorted. still … it’s … idk … there is comfort in him telling me he always wanted me and always loved me vs her telling me she just wanted a baby, so wala! i’m here … and then that she wanted to leave me. which doesn’t surprise me b/c it was obvious she didn’t want me, but to actually speak the words to my face. and now, according to him, she was not speaking for him, only for herself.

    i think, for him, knowing these things is putting a lot of other things that have happened into perspective … like … oh, that’s why _____; now it makes sense.

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  45. Ame says:

    i can hear my mother’s voice over the years, “Your father _______ …. your father ______ …”

    now i wonder how much was true.

    and honestly … you men have taught me so much about how men think and act that i now have a perspective to draw from that i did not have previously. for that i am very grateful.

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  46. Ame says:

    oh.my.gawash … that chair thing is SO stupid! some chick needs a real life. go live in a convent if you don’t want to be around men. pulease.

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  47. Farm Boy says:

    Apollo 11 astronauts Michael Collins and Buzz Aldrin were at the White House today for the 50th anniversary of the moon landing.

    And Buzz gave a gracious thanks to President Trump that ended with “Keep America Great in Space.”

    And this triggered a whole lot of libs who then attacked the American hero

    https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2019/07/19/youre-a-coward-buzz-aldrin-thanks-donald-trump-and-libs-lose-it/

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  48. RichardP says:

    @FB: thanks for the link to that Dreher thread on asymmetrical multiculturalism. It is quite a read.

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  49. Farm Boy says:

    Different rules for different people based on the color of their skin. It comes down to that

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  50. But it’s not racism when they do it. Only whites can be racist.

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  51. Ame says:

    have a fb friend from my first blog oh-so-many-years-ago. i like her b/c she stood by her husband when he went thru a really hard time and most wives would have left.

    she recently posted that another friend came forward and said she’s in an abusive marriage … then went into a looong diatribe saying how we need to believe these women and not question them b/c it took guts to tell the truth. lots of comments before i saw it … then i commented that if a woman believes she is being abused, she needs to seek help … AND it needs to be verified b/c for every one woman who is truly being abused, there are many who are fake-crying-abuse. and while that’s hard for the ones who truly are being abused, it’s b/c of the fakers and to protect the innocent. i also referred to 1 cor 7 where the bible says a Christian woman can leave her husband but must remain single or be reunited to husband, and, imo, this means a woman can legally divorce her husband if needed to protect herself and their children if he truly is unsafe and the divorce is needed to protect them, but she still must remain unmarried as long as husband is alive or be reunited to him.

    she wrote how devastating it is to break up the family b/c of this. i replied that divorce is ALWAYS devastating and is ALWAYS b/c someone sinned, and that doesn’t change just b/c one is innocent.

    and … once again … i shut down the comments. not one comment after mine.

    sigh.

    it will be interesting to see if anyone ever does comment now.

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  52. Farm Boy says:

    For reasons that cannot be explained, Michelle Obama has topped the list of most admired woman

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/michelle-obama-is-the-worlds-most-admired-woman-for-some-reason/

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  53. BuenaVista says:

    I still get worked up when I see a rocket go up, or a lander come down, on an obvious suicide mission. I can’t even read about Apollo 11 without covering my eyes, if in public. Two people were just looking at me in this restaurant.

    They’re still checking me out. Time to switch to baseball.

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  54. Farm Boy says:

    BV,

    Well, a fella by himself is suspicious. I would know the experience

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  55. Farm Boy says:

    School district warns parents their kids could be put in foster care unless lunch debt paid

    https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/453916-pennsylvania-school-district-threatens-to-send-kids-to-foster

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  56. Farm Boy says:

    Women hold almost two-thirds of the outstanding student debt in the U.S. — about $929 billion. The gender pay gap is one factor that keeps women from paying off their debt as quickly as men. (via @aauw)
    — TIME’S UP (@TIMESUPNOW) July 19, 2019

    The tweet leaves out the obvious – that women are the majority of college graduates, so it makes sense that they would have the majority of outstanding debt.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/49711/womens-group-complains-about-women-holding-most-ashe-schow

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  57. Farm Boy says:

    “I don’t know what’s going on,” said left-wing activist Ryan Weber. “Every day for years and years we’ve been yelling about racist things, from words to symbols to holidays to breakfast cereals to every single Republican ever, and we just assumed everyone was carefully taking notes every time we spoke up, but it seems like no one was paying attention at all.”

    https://babylonbee.com/news/people-who-have-screamed-racism-for-decades-wonder-why-no-one-is-listening-to-them-about-trump

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  58. Farm Boy says:

    The classical demand is that the state ought to treat all people equally in spite of the fact that they are very unequal. You can’t deduce from this that because people are unequal you ought to treat them unequally in order to make them equal. And that’s what social justice amounts to. It’s a demand that the state should treat people differently in order to place them in the same position. . . .To make people equal a goal of governmental policy would force government to treat people very unequally indeed.

    Therein lies the rub for social justice advocates. The US Constitution forbids the state from denying citizens “equal protection of the laws,” so passing legislation that treats people differently is, well, tricky.

    https://fee.org/articles/hayek-social-justice-demands-the-unequal-treatment-of-individuals/

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  59. BuenaVista says:

    Trump is big on ‘winning’ the handshake: he always has to dominate the handshake.

    Not with Buzz Aldrin, though. Buzz went to the moon. Neil’s dead. Buzz controls the handshake.

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  60. BuenaVista says:

    Pic 4, above.

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  61. Farm Boy says:

    Is shaking hands racist?

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  62. Farm Boy says:

    Sometime later, two sisters found the noose and began screaming, according to Delaware Online. The manager asked another employee to help the women since he was assisting another customer, but ran over when they began screaming his name. The manager told Delaware Online that the women cursed at him when he tried to assist them

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/49709/customers-complained-after-finding-noose-home-ashe-schow

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  63. No, shaking hands is not racist, but “giving 5” is cultural appropriation if you’re not from Africa in some way. Boers don’t count.

    [What if only three fingers you have?]

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  64. BuenaVista says:

    Being a USAF-trained stud astronaut is racist, and I nominate Buzz Aldrin for fraternity a) fashion director; b) chapter president.

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  65. BuenaVista says:

    Oops, edit. They’re not all ex-USAF.

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  66. Farm Boy says:

    Gratuitous images

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  67. Ame says:

    i think one of the things that has been so enlightening for me from these conversations with my dad is how much men have to trust their wives … and, apparently, how few wives should be trusted … deserve to be trusted … and how huge a risk that is for men.

    if what my dad is telling me is true … for most of his life he has believe his first wife:
    – married him because she loved him.
    – faithfully loved him and sincerely cared for him most all of those years.
    – raised his children from that pov while he was out working his butt off to support us.

    and … as their first child … and from words directly from my mother’s mouth:
    – she did not marry him for love; she married him b/c she wanted a baby.
    – she did not faithfully love him; she dreamed about leaving all of us.
    – she often negatively represented him to us kids.

    i’m not sure men, in the past, if men thought of these things ahead of time … but from what is presented in the manosphere, at least some men are thinking of it ahead of time now.

    – – –

    btw – just heard he came out of surgery and is doing well. it was a bit dicey at the end b/c they said he’d be out and in icu in one hour, but it was well over two hours before they told us he was out. not sure what happened in that last 1+ hours, but, i’m sooo thankful he’s okay.

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  68. BuenaVista says:

    January Jones is from … Soiuth Dakota. She’s wearing a serious corset in that pic, if I’m correctly identifying her. (Tell me who cares.) But the upper-arm to waist ratio is not found in nature.

    Man she was good in Mad Men.

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  69. Farm Boy says:

    Georgia Democrat Erica Thomas claims a “white man” told her to “go back to where I came from”

    The guy is a Cuban Democrat and he says that he didn’t say that and that she is doing this for political gain

    He defended “the squad” this week on Facebook against Trump’s attacks pic.twitter.com/ldWvrYGyqJ

    — Ryan Saavedra (@RealSaavedra) July 20, 2019

    Here’s where he says he is a Cuban Democrat and that she is doing this for political gain https://t.co/ISyKTbpLDm

    — Ryan Saavedra (@RealSaavedra) July 20, 2019

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  70. Farm Boy says:

    It would seem that SJW types believe that there just are not enough hate crimes

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  71. Farm Boy says:

    “It’s just toxic and causes nothing but problems,” said Elisha Mcewen, a vegan activist and no threat whatsoever to spiders or tight jar lids. “I was sharing my feelings on masculinity with other men in my drum circle, and we all agreed that if we ever encountered masculinity, we would run far away.”

    https://babylonbee.com/news/least-masculine-society-in-human-history-decides-masculinity-is-a-growing-threat

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  72. b g says:

    Ame

    Kid, glad to hear your Dad is okay, I was hoping for the both of you ;-D

    But yes, things have gone very ugly, very quickly over the last three generations. When we married, it was actually more a covenant rather than a mere agreement. The vows were serious, made not only to each other, but between most of our families and friends, and the church. Most were generally kept, divorce was not only frowned upon, but considered a complete failure, and very slow and difficult to arrange. .

    We were a team and trusted each other completely. The “with all my worldly goods I thee endow” statement meant that we shared all our financial accounts until she passed and then some. I changed that very slowly and sadly, only as government bureaucrats required. Today, perhaps widows seem to find that passing a little easier than widowers, but my grandmother mourned for almost 35 years and a great aunt mourned for more than 50.

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  73. Farm Boy says:

    Probably people should not watch this

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  74. horsemanbombadil says:

    What? His scales were itchy, he is an amphibian after all.

    Sheesh, can’t a frog moisturize without being judged?

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  75. Farm Boy says:

    It is true that when you relieve an itch, it feels awfully good

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  76. Ame says:

    b g
    Ame

    Kid, glad to hear your Dad is okay, I was hoping for the both of you ;-D

    thank you, BG 🙂

    i love hearing about you and your Beloved and family 🙂

    when my mother left my dad, she said she decided she didn’t want to live the last 20-30 years of her life unhappy (que overused theme out here). i think she keeps telling herself she’s happier, but she’s not; she’s a mess. and i’m just thankful she lives too far away to visit me and i don’t have to have any part of her destruction.

    with the exception of The Ton and a few, divorce does not make people happy. the only ones who perpetrate that lie are those who want to lure others into their misery. and their misery is not simply proven, it’s blatant, but the world still believes in it. crazy.

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  77. Ame says:

    those flashlights for a headlight! lol!

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  78. Farm Boy says:

    It says in here that the chick who voiced that awful SJW robot in Solo wrote the script for the new James Bond movie

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  79. b g says:

    Ame

    It is always difficult to be certain which spouse is responsible in a divorce. I only know that two of my sisters in law were completely innocent, one husband was an adulterer, the other a closeted homosexual. Plus one of our closest friends broke up because he proved to be a serial adulterer. In all the others, amongst family and friends, most of the fault seemed to be largely the result of bored wives, many of the husbands seemed completely shocked to be served the papers. Most of the husbands were seriously damaged, few of the women were happy in the long term. Despite what all the social workers insisted in the mid seventies and eighties, the children appear to suffer the most.

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  80. Ame says:

    the children appear to suffer the most.

    every.single.time.

    the phrase, “Children are resilient” is tossed around out there to make people feel better about exploding their little lives with divorce. probably only Ton could come up with language strong enough to express how i feel about that insane statement.

    the human race is resilient. it adapts. it survives. but that doesn’t mean it’s better off for going through hell.

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  81. Adam says:

    every.single.time.

    the phrase, “Children are resilient” is tossed around out there to make people feel better about exploding their little lives with divorce. probably only Ton could come up with language strong enough to express how i feel about that insane statement.

    In order to pass no fault divorce laws in the 70s, proponents had to make the claim that divorce did not affect children. To back up this claim, no support was put in place for children in such circumstances because to do so would have gone against their lie that divorce does not affect children.

    The support was quietly put in place in the 90s when there was no chance of the law being overturned.

    A similar attitude has taken place recently in regards to gay marriage and gays adopting children.

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  82. Farm Boy says:

    Perhaps children are resilient, but is it best to test it?

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  83. Ame says:

    Adam – that’s so infuriating.

    i’m guessing it was women leading the way in that 😦

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  84. Ame says:

    Farm Boy

    Perhaps children are resilient, but is it best to test it?

    humanity is resilient.

    the way it is used to make adults/parents feel better about divorce is saying that it might be hard for awhile, but they’ll spring back and be JUST FINE. it won’t really affect them negatively at all. so do whatever the heck you want, parents, b/c your kids will just get over it. kind of like abortion … they want to think a baby in the womb has no feelings of pain.

    it’s all a delusion to make themselves feel better about emotionally stabbing their kids repeatedly.

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  85. b g says:

    Kid, c’mon it wasn’t adults or parents, it was women that were and are responsible for this horror. Not only do women bring most of the divorce papers, they also usually intentionally rape their spouse in court to prevent men accessing their children. The vast majority of those social workers lying about the results on children following divorce were also women. Further those lobbying for no fault were women:

    https://lawprofessors.typepad.com/gender_law/2019/01/the-role-of-the-national-womens-lawyer-association-in-advocating-no-fault-divorce-in-the-1950s.html

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  86. Ame says:

    BG – ummm … i’d kinda already referred to women, but i guess i should have carried it down:

    Adam

    “every.single.time.

    the phrase, “Children are resilient” is tossed around out there to make people feel better about exploding their little lives with divorce. probably only Ton could come up with language strong enough to express how i feel about that insane statement.”

    In order to pass no fault divorce laws in the 70s, proponents had to make the claim that divorce did not affect children. To back up this claim, no support was put in place for children in such circumstances because to do so would have gone against their lie that divorce does not affect children.

    The support was quietly put in place in the 90s when there was no chance of the law being overturned.

    A similar attitude has taken place recently in regards to gay marriage and gays adopting children.
    – – –

    Ame

    Adam – that’s so infuriating.

    i’m guessing it was women leading the way in that 😦

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  87. Ame says:

    BG – that link is very telling:

    Thursday, January 17, 2019

    The Role of the National Women’s Lawyers Association in Advocating No-Fault Divorce in the 1950s
    By Tracy Thomas Share
    Laura Oren, No-Fault Divorce Reform in the 1950s: The Lost History of the “Greatest Project” of the National Association of Women Lawyers, 36 Law & History Review 847 (2018)

    This Article is about the lost history of a campaign by the National Association of Women Lawyers (NAWL) to achieve uniform no-fault divorce law reform in the United States. In one form or another, NAWL has existed continuously since before 1911, when it began to publish the Women Lawyers Journal. From its Progressive era origins until today, NAWL has pursued a women’s rights agenda within a professional framework.

    Although prior to ratification of the Nineteenth Amendment in 1920 women’s suffrage was a key issue for the women lawyers, even then it was far from the only one. Both before and also after suffrage, the Journal reflected the wide-ranging interests of NAWL members, such as legal doctrines in many areas of practice (including divorce), the education of female lawyers, the advancement of women in the profession and in society, and the protection of women and children. From the 1930s through the 1950s, NAWL also played an active role in two postsuffrage women’s rights struggles, the campaigns for female jury service and for the Equal Rights Amendment (ERA).

    This history makes it particularly interesting that when the organization undertook what its own chronicler described as “the greatest project NAWL has ever undertaken,” it was about divorce law. In 1947, *849 NAWL voted “to draft and promote a bill that would embody the ideal of no-fault divorce.” Instead of the contortions and invitation to perjury in the existing patchwork of fault-based divorce statutes, NAWL sought a uniform model act that would check the evils of migratory divorce and promote national uniformity. It would reflect a more contemporary understanding of the complex causes of marital breakdown, it would operate in the modern spirit of conciliation, and it would be “therapeutic” in its procedure. Despite their belief in its innovative nature, the women lawyers later insisted that the bill that they had designed was “not as revolutionary as appears at first glance.” In their view, it was “new chiefly in its attitude and treatment of divorce and in the ‘therapeutic approach’ which has been adopted.” “Otherwise,” they said, “the Bill represents a restatement of the best case law and statutory law to be found throughout the forty-eight states.”

    After NAWL formally approved its model bill in 1952, the women lawyers sought consideration for their proposed Uniform Divorce Act by the National Conference of Commissioners on Uniform State Laws (NCCUSL). The conference, an influential private body of distinguished members of the legal profession devoted to developing and promoting uniform model acts for the states to adopt, refused to consider the NAWL proposal unless it was submitted by a section of the American Bar Association (ABA). It took years for NAWL to overcome that hurdle by successfully leading the way to the establishment of the Family Law Section of the ABA. Even when NAWL finally was able to submit its proposal, however, NCCUSL continued to bypass the women lawyers and their bill.

    The lost history of NAWL’s greatest project intersects with three historical inquiries about the 1950s. It interrogates narratives about (1) the history and state of divorce law at that time, (2) the alleged culture of “domesticity” in the decade, and (3) the continuity of women’s movement activism in the so-called “doldrums” years. Although there are extensive historical literatures in each of these three areas, to date there has been *850 no scholarly study of NAWL’s “no-fault” divorce reform proposal or of NAWL’s role as an activist professional and women’s rights organization. This article recovers NAWL’s lost history and explores how it fits into the gaps.

    https://lawprofessors.typepad.com/gender_law/2019/01/the-role-of-the-national-womens-lawyer-association-in-advocating-no-fault-divorce-in-the-1950s.html

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  88. b g says:

    Ame

    Sorry Kid, didn’t mean to be harsh. Just too often hearing women claiming that feminism was necessary but just went a little too far. Nope, I was there when the second wave started and it was nothing but lying, cheating, and stealing from the beginning. But gullible and naïve university students bought into the horseshit spreading the poison for three generations..

    Fiamengo bought into it as a youth but learned better although at some personal cost to herself, she is now resolutely anti-feminist, and one of the original Honey Badgers:

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  89. Farm Boy says:

    Just too often hearing women claiming that feminism was necessary but just went a little too far. Nope, I was there when the second wave started and it was nothing but lying, cheating, and stealing from the beginning. But gullible and naïve university students bought into the horseshit spreading the poison for three generations

    Can the poison be removed?

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  90. Ame says:

    BG – i’m very sorry if i’ve offended you or misrepresented what i intended to say. i believe feminism is poison.

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  91. b g says:

    Farm Boy

    “Can the poison be removed?”

    Not easily, how many women have you ever met that would readily admit that they had made a mistake ;-D

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  92. b g says:

    Ame

    No sweat kid, most women today have no idea how much feminism has deliberately misled them. That was why I posted that link.

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