The Herd Revisited

Liz the Cat wrote,

Sarah Hoyt wrote a piece a while back that kind of sums up what I think the “incentive” for feminist group-think is:

”You see, just like testosterone boosts your self confidence and your ability to feel good about yourself, female hormones boost your ability to bond, your desire for group cohesion, and your not-perfectly-rational wish to belong.
So you get a group of women, and it’s easy to get them all to march out for no particular reason and with no end in sight.

You’re invited by friends, because “we’re all doing it.” And you go, because your children or your mom or stuff. Because your friend told you “we have to do it so the children don’t have to” or because “isn’t your mom homeless.”
And unless you’re rock bottom stupid you know it doesn’t make a wit of sense.

But your friend is so sure.

And if you ask questions or point out it makes no sense, they’re not going to talk to you again. There’s going to be a rift, and who are your kids going to play with?

Women are evolutionarily designed to avoid conflict and reinforce the group. This means they can be very good for creating happy extended families, and very bad for creating crab buckets at work or in political situations. And they’re really good at mass movements of astounding and jaw-dropping incoherence.

So what is the cure?  Rational. practical men.

Do we produce these men as much as we used to?  Even with more education on average, I would say that the answer is no.

Would today’s women listen to rational, practical men?  Probably not.  They believe that they don’t need men individually, or as a group.

Have some women figured the above out?  Yes they have.  We have a few around here as examples.

How likely is a woman to figure this out?  Probably not so much, as she has herd-think driving her away from the truth.

What to do?

Posted in FarmBoy, Feminism, Lies
128 comments on “The Herd Revisited
  1. Cheque d'Out says:

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  2. RichardP says:

    @FB – thanks for creating this thread. I was struck by what Liz posted and was going to ask her for a link. Decided to search on my own and found the following. The quote is toward the bottom. If you scroll down to where you see Hoyt’s picture, the text to the left of the picture should be in the vicinity of where Liz’s quote starts. But I know different devices format things differently so ymmv.

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  3. BuenaVista says:

    I have, currently, a variant of this problem. A woman who is disabled by illness (she was the principal violist of a major opera, but she’s done) is left with me as her only confidant. (Poor her: BV is lacking in the comforting miasma of feeling department.) She also practices the triathlete lifestyle, such as she is able at her age. She’s in much better shape than I and she weighs what she weighed in high school, when she ran hurdles at state. It’s very important to her that I call her everyday. Since her father died she has no one to talk to.

    There’s some problem with her back at the moment. Two vertabra moved or something. She can’t train. Fortunately, disabled people (Federal definition) get Medicare despite being younger than the normal 65.

    Well. She’s a female so her approach to problem solving is herd-compliant: talk about the problem, get sympathy, repeat cycle. Anyone providing a suggestion that might terminate the problem is a Bad Person. (It’s worse when the woman is clinically insane.) Normally I just say “Bye” when encountering this absolute inability to discuss personal difficulty without making it a pity party. It’s harder when the subject female is your schizophrenic sister. I spend most of these conversations scheming to introduce a suggestion that she would accept from a herd-girlfriend, if she had girlfriends.

    I’ve screwed up a lot of things in life. But my daughter valued logic over feelz by age 12, and my word is it gratifying to talk to her about most things. I’ll try to think of a movie version of a woman, taught by a man to be rational first. In the novels of Dashiel Hammett, the women are remarkably clear-thinking and independent in their thinking (independent of their female cohort-herd, which is so irrelevant they don’t really make an appearance). Ironically, therefore, the male-female relationships at the core of the Hammet books (almost 100 years old now) are what many men thought was their post-feminism destiny. Sharp-thinking, independent dames in skirts, no appeals for sympathy swooning. No snowflakes in Hammett.

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  4. RichardP says:

    @FB said: How likely is a woman to figure this out? Probably not so much, as she has herd-think driving her away from the truth.

    What to do?

    Stay away from herds.

    I understand that unicorns don’t flock together in herds. I don’t imagine that the ladies around here run in herds. My wife does not. Most of the women that attract my attention do not. Most of the women I was raised around did not. Except I imagine that some of the innate herd tendencies might have stirred a bit at quilting bees. Otherwise, all of the women had too much to do.

    How can you gather in herds when you are raising a brood of children and feeding hungry husbands and farmhands and keeping the house clean and sewing clothes and taking care of older parents and helping the young uns show their animals at the 4-H exhibit at school and at the yearly fair and so on?

    Pride of ownership. Kind of like Stephanie’s new family picture at her place, with the game-changer for Stephanie on her lap. That picture seems to be full of pride of ownership. Pride of ownership innoculates one against the herd. But if Camille Pagli is right that women would still be living in grass huts if it weren’t for men, perhaps the ladies need a man to make her part of his universe where she can help him build things of which she can be proud – have pride of ownership in – babies and such, a home, be an enabler of him so he can go slay dragons and put the meat in the freezer, etc.

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  5. RichardP says:

    This post at Stephanie’s place is in the ball-park of what BV is talking about.

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  6. b g says:


    Unicorns not only do not form herds, they are exceptionally rare. In 70 years, I only found one. She strongly positively influenced other women, and some of them are close friends of mine to this day. But biblically speaking, unicorns are those valued above rubies ;-D

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  7. Cheque d'Out says:

    I’d go along with this assessment as the contenders are interviewed and revealed to be wasters (Steve Baker has not been interviewed afaiaa).

    Up to now there would seem to be 13 candidates for the next Tory Leader and Prime Minister.

    Michael Gove
    Dominic Raab
    Boris Johnson
    Jeremy Hunt
    Sajid Javid
    Matt Hancock
    Esther McVey
    Mark Harper
    Andrea Leadsom
    Steve Baker
    James Cleverly
    Rory Stewart
    Graham Brady

    One only of those people has been a consistent and outspoken Brexiteer- Steve Baker. Baker’s changes of reaching the final two are zero. The rest are Remainers of one sort or another who have suddenly in the last day or so, rediscovered their Brexit credentials down the back of the sofa. A number of them are simply “joke” candidates – Hancock, Cleverly, Brady and Stewart, so stuffed with their own self-importance but lack of self-awareness that even now they fail to grasp what is about to happen to the Tory party.
    Nigel must be loving this. And it’s about to get worse when the EU elections (Second Referendum) results arrive on Monday morning.

    I just hope Ukip and Nigel’s lot can get their shit together in one place for the General Election that may come pretty soon.

    We await the euro election results from around 11pm (perhaps they’ll start coming in a little earlier).

    The turnout is rumoured to be a little higher that the last euros but there are so many ways to explain that that I feel that we might as well just wait to see the results

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  8. Cheque d'Out says:

    Michael Gove, the devious little shit that stabbed BloJo in the back during the last party leadership election thus clearing the path for May


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  10. Farm Boy says:

    Gillibrand encouraged abortion rights advocates “to march, to organize, to vote and make sure their voice is heard at the ballot box and in their communities.”

    Abortion rights activists at the protest chanted, “The Capitol is not a church” and “the Supreme Court is not a church.” Other protesters chanted, “No vagina, no vote.”


  11. Farm Boy says:

    A consultant hired by the city Department of Education told administrators at a workshop that “racial equity” means favoring black children regardless of their socio-economic status, sources said.

    “If I had a poor white male student and I had a middle-class black boy, I would actually put my equitable strategies and interventions into that middle class black boy because over the course of his lifetime he will have less access and less opportunities than that poor white boy,” the consultant, Darnisa Amante, is quoted as saying by those in the room.

    “That’s what racial equity is,” Amante explained.


  12. Liz says:

    “If I had a poor white male student and I had a middle-class black boy, I would actually put my equitable strategies and interventions into that middle class black boy because over the course of his lifetime he will have less access and less opportunities than that poor white boy,”

    I have to wonder what planet these folks live on.

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  13. Farm Boy says:

    There’s media silence in Minneapolis over an attack executed by a group of Somali teens that reportedly attacked bystanders East Bank Light Rail station last Friday. It looks like it was racially motivated. According to reports, anyone who was white or looked like they had money was targeted. The teens used hammers and bars as weapons

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  14. Farm Boy says:

    Portland State rejects ‘Conservative Political Thought’ course because it’s not inclusive


  15. Farm Boy says:

    We ate lunch at a Chick-fil-A today. When we entered the restaurant, the first thing we saw was an empty table that was set up to honor fallen military personnel over the Memorial Day weekend. There was a red rose, a folded flag, an inverted glass and an open Bible, along with text explaining the elements of the display.

    Chick-fil-A is unabashedly pro-American. I suspect that is the real reason for the animus that so many liberals bear against the company. There was a time when liberals were generally patriotic. George McGovern is a good example: he was wrong on just about every issue, but he was a veteran who loved his country. That is no longer true.

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  16. Farm Boy says:

    Clinton used the fight to segue into a renewed call to uncover the “truth” behind Donald Trump’s 2016 election victory, something she still, apparently, cannot believe was legitimate, despite several years-long investigations establishing Trump’s legitimacy.


  17. Ame says:

    BV – (Poor her: BV is lacking in the comforting miasma of feeling department.)

    i’m guessing she whines and complains about this … but … the fact that you are an unmovable concrete wall in her life is probably what she needs the most. she really doesn’t want answers, she just needs to talk and babble to someone who can’t be moved or manipulated by her whining and babbling and who is also a safe person for her.

    i know you want to give her solutions, to fix her problems. she wants neither … however, it is of great comfort to her that she knows you *can* do these things if ever she’s in a place where she’s ready for that solution/fix or where she doesn’t have a choice. knowing that you are the most solid person with the best solution for her brings her comfort.

    kudos to you for taking over this role when your father passed. you are a Man among men.

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  18. Farm Boy says:

    But things are different now. Whether it be chemistry, physics, geology or engineering, many of the world’s primary professional societies have changed from being paragons of technical virtue to opportunistic groups focused on maximizing their members’ financial gains in support of the climate scare, the world’s greatest science fraud


  19. Cheque d'Out says:


  20. Cheque d'Out says:

    Brexit plus ukip close to 50%

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  21. Ame says:

    this is an easy-read piece that highlights the beginning of the changes of the american diet in a very short time. amazing the power of marketing (propaganda).

    How Vegetable Oils Replaced Animal Fats in the American Diet

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  22. Farm Boy says:

    Nigel Farage’s Brexit Party was set to storm to victory in a European election, riding a wave of anger at the failure of Prime Minister Theresa May to take the United Kingdom out of the European Union, early results showed.


  23. Farm Boy says:

    From Ton’s link

    Too many millennials grew up subject to — not my words — failed parenting strategies,” notes Sinek. Millennials were routinely told, for instance, that they were special. They were told they could have “anything they want in life, just ’cause they want it.”

    Once again, true. But there’s more to it than that. This message to which Sinek refers was specifically directed to girls by their feminist-minded mothers. Sinek talks about the self-esteem movement and the harm it’s done to millennials, and I agree. But we can’t separate the self-esteem movement from the feminist movement. They’re two sides of the same coin.

    The self-esteem movement says, “There’s no one quite like you. You’re amazing. Go — seize the world.” And feminism says, “Your mothers’ lives were constrained. Don’t live the way they did — reach for the stars instead!”

    As a result, girls and young women both then and now feel entitled to lives that defy description. They should be out-of-this-world exciting!

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  24. earl says:

    Self-esteem movement was just another term for pride.

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  25. Cheque d'Out says:

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  26. Farm Boy says:

    He seems rather happy

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  27. Farm Boy says:

    An influential United States Congress hearing has been told “one of the major fundraisers for Jacinda Ardern’s party” is linked to the Chinese Communist Party and it showed China had penetrated New Zealand’s political networks.

    As a result, US lawmakers needed to consider whether New Zealand should be kicked out of the Five Eyes intelligence alliance because of problems at its “political core”


  28. Cheque d'Out says:

    Daily Express newspaper

    Pundits were stunned as the party surged to historic wins in the East and North West and South-West of England and Wales with other regions expected to declare later. Results from East of England region put the Brexit Party on three MEPs, with two for the Liberal Democrats and one for each of Labour and the Greens. The elections were disastrous for the Labour and Conservative parties, with early figures suggesting they could be pushed into third and fourth place behind the Liberal Democrats. Currently the Tories are on track for their worst electoral performance, judged by share of the vote, since 1832.

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  29. Cheque d'Out says:

    The message of the European election results is clear. If we go on like this, we will be dismissed BORIS JOHNSON

    After these dismal elections, we need a proper Brexit and a fresh agenda to reunite the country
    I predict a rout. In this miserable election that should never have taken place, for a Euro-parliament that should no longer represent us, the voters are delivering a crushing rebuke to the Government – in fact, to both major parties.
    I cannot find it in my heart to blame them. They gave us one chief task: to deliver Brexit. They have so far given us almost three years to do it. We have flagrantly failed to carry out their instructions. We have missed deadline after deadline, broken promise after promise; and today our employers – the people – have figuratively summoned us to the Human Resources…

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  30. Farm Boy says:

    Le Pen Triumphs Over Macron in EU Election Exit Poll, Calls for Fresh National Elections


  31. SFC Ton says:

    Without a about the beta factories ie churches war on pride is part of why Western men suck ass at being men right now. A man should be proud but that pride should be based on what he has done and what he will do in the future.

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  32. SFC Ton says:

    A woman should be be proud too. Proud of her tribe, proud of her forefathers and their accomplishments. Proud of the man who owns her, the home and life she helps build for them all etc etc

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  33. Farm Boy says:

    Salvini told supporters at party headquarters in Milan early Monday that the results of Europe’s four-day vote show that “a new Europe is born. I will say to those who have sunk the European dream, transforming it into a nightmare, that I am proud that the League participated in this new rebirth of a sunken Europe.”

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  34. RichardP says:

    Speaking words of comfort – let it be, let it be.


  35. Farm Boy says:

    I thought he just wanted to smell her hair


  36. RichardP says:

    thought he just wanted to smell her hair

    A skilled statesman can do both. Inhaling the scent is a payoff for giving her comfort without telling her what she could do to solve her problems.

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  37. b g says:

    C’mon, we love women for their smell, their looks, their sound, their feel, and their taste. Otherwise, we might well have placed a bounty on their heads years ago ;-D

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  38. Alan Kardec says:

    BV: “In the novels of Dashiel Hammett, the women are remarkably clear-thinking and independent in their thinking (independent of their female cohort-herd, which is so irrelevant they don’t really make an appearance). Ironically, therefore, the male-female relationships at the core of the Hammet books (almost 100 years old now) are what many men thought was their post-feminism destiny. Sharp-thinking, independent dames in skirts, no appeals for sympathy swooning. No snowflakes in Hammett.”

    Years ago I interviewed a dozen or so women from the “Dashiel Hammett generation” with a few of them trending a bit younger (born in the teens or early twenties as opposed to the turn of the century), most were like this description, objective, sharp thinking and independent. It might be their advanced age but it might also be that in those days the herd was different, more oriented towards families and living in unicorn land was impossible with death and disease constantly surrounding them. In my experience women react very poorly to a luxurious lifestyle, rapidly being corrupted by wealth and comfort. The less well balanced of the women I reference were all pretty well off and their husbands had passed on some years before. Basically all they had to do in life was spend the dead husband’s money. They had the least sense of direction, gratitude and discipline.

    All, however, seemed remarkably better balanced than the next generation of ladies (born in the 30s and 40s) who seemed to have started off pretty practical but were unable to maintain that frame of mind by the ’50s or 60’s. This younger group seemed to have a distinct image they felt they had to portray or display (as opposed to actually living up to it) and had a lot of anxiety when they didn’t feel they were projecting the right sense of themselves on the world. Though more invested in selling their sexuality than the older women they also felt the need to seem oddly prudish at the same time.

    One of my favorite moments was when one of the older ladies, born around 1912, was showing me family pictures. She said, “… and this is my illegitimate son.” Didn’t bat an eye. Very proud of him and not the least bit judgemental of herself. In a similar situation most of the younger cohort would have created some weird sounding lie or gotten all twisted up with embarrassment, freaked out about how life turned out rather accepting and moving on. The old ladies were great, unfortunately most are no longer around to pass along their forthright attitude toward life.

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  39. Cheque d'Out says:

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  40. Cheque d'Out says:

    No clear message being sent here, says the MSM

    Just over six times the vote of the number two parties…ouch

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  41. Cheque d'Out says:

    LD = LimpDumbs the go to party for remoaning
    SNP = ScozNaz remoaners or just so tribal that they voted SNP due to their NPC style programming

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  42. Cheque d'Out says:

    That’s some funny shit right there


  43. Cheque d'Out says:

    Tories still not listening. Some cuck on BBC 2 saying we need to do everything we can to get a deal.

    It’s hilarious how they don’t understand the situation. They’ve gone into a cafe named The Shit Sandwich and spent ages going through the menu. Then they’ve ordered a shit sandwich for each of the 10 people in the group.

    When the waiter brings the shit sandwiches to the table all the table complain because one sandwich has dog shit in it, one has cat shit, one has bird shit etc, etc.

    The Tory then says, it’s OK people we won’t leave, we have to do everything to get a shit sandwich everyone can agree on.

    Oh and the waiter then says, no sir you’ve ordered, the bill is £39 billion, so eat or leave.


  44. SFC Ton says:

    I would love to see the truth about MLK come out. Let’s face it they don’t keep reports about people hidden for years on end because they make you look like a saint and we already know he cheated during college and denied the divinity of Christ


  45. Cheque d'Out says:

    “I told you what was going to happen next but would you listen?”

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  46. Cheque d'Out says:

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  47. Farm Boy says:

    The company’s newest ad — released Saturday — introduces a girl pondering identity.

    In a deep voice, the young woman talks to the camera about finding herself:

    “I went into my transition just wanting to be happy. I’m glad I’m at the point where I’m able to shave.”


    “Growing up, I was always trying to figure out what kind of man I wanted to become, and I’m still trying to figure out what kind of man that I want to become.”

    A beaming father is present for her first pruning of the ol’ facehedge.


  48. Farm Boy says:

    His main contention revolves around his perception that only white gay men seem excited for Buttigieg, while the remaining members of the LGBT community show little support—many are even hostile to what he represents. There is a strong dislike for his race, his Christianity, his military service, and the fact that he is in a monogamous marriage, all things the writer associates with a “white, gay man.”


  49. Cheque d'Out says:

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  50. Cheque d'Out says:

    The ABBC psephologist of choice. And he’s usually pretty good

    (psephologist definition: someone who studies elections and voting statistics)

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  51. Cheque d'Out says:

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  53. Liz says:

    Sorry for the sobering downer post, but damn….

    Really puts things into perspective.
    These are the death numbers, not the maimed…numbers of the latter far higher.

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  54. Cheque d'Out says:

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  55. Liz says:

    And one more memorial day related post, this one more positive:

    Gary Sinise flew 1,000 children of fallen U.S. soldiers to Disney World.
    I’ve met him, he’s a very good guy. Very unusual celebrity.

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  56. Cheque d'Out says:


  57. Stephanie says:

    Hey Spawny Peeps!!!! Just took one of those test thingys this morning and it was positive!!!!!!!

    5 weeks pregnant with #4 !!!!!!

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  58. Farm Boy says:

    Faculty at the University of New Brunswick in Canada have signed on to a letter lambasting a “controversial” sociology professor as a “racist without academic merit.”

    In response, Duchesne pointed out he is an immigrant (from Puerto Rico) of mixed-race parentage who merely “questions an ideology initiated and supported by privileged whites”: that of the “mandated ideology of diversity and mass immigration.”

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  59. Cheque d'Out says:

    You guys need to stop doing this shit. Coupling and Red Dwarf were great but died in a ditch when adapted for America

    Make American version of a British comedy which hinges on our social mores and embarrassment and then making all the characters female instead of male. Just stunning really.


  60. Cheque d'Out says:

    Congratulations to Mr & Mrs Stephanie

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  61. Hope you are happy with the election results! 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

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  62. SFC Ton says:

    I’ve meet Gary Sinise a few times. Often enough that he remembered The Ton. If everyone in Hollywood died tomorrow The Ton would be a happy man. I’d be a little happier if Mr Sinise was the loan survivor

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  63. SFC Ton says:

    Really puts things into perspective.
    These are the death numbers, not the maimed…numbers of the latter far higher.

    That’s my everyday reality.

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  64. […] boy concluded in The Herd Revisited (2019 May […]


  65. I don’t hang out with girl herds for this very reason! Lol. Well said.

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  66. Cheque d'Out says:

    Nigel and my new MEP

    Broke my promise to only vote for men but that’s okay, she’s got far more balls than most men in politics. Takes no shit. Thatcher era conservative Conservative

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  67. Cheque d'Out says:

    Live now


  68. Cheque d'Out says:

    “Hope you are happy with the election results! 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧”

    They were fine. But now the MSM are telling us that ‘remoan’ won.

    Would you Adam and Eve it? Because I don’t

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  69. Cheque d'Out says:

    Adam and Eve = Believe

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  70. Cheque d'Out says:

    To be fair:
    1) the US Peep Show remake wouldn’t work regardless of the sex of the cast. It’s just not American humour. I’ve seen good episodes and bad episodes. I can definitely take it or leave it. There are entire series that I haven’t seen.
    2) A female cast Peep Show wouldn’t work anywhere at all. Too much smut and filth.


  71. For example, the first pussy hat march thing. I didn’t go and I didn’t take my kids. Other women on fb actually called me out on not going (Bc I wasn’t posting pics like all the other women were), and not bringing my girls especially. I replied that being a woman has never held me back and so I didn’t identify as being a victim. Lol. I think some people unfriended me. (I rarely posted anyway but shortly after I stopped posting on fb at all except for my biz.)

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  72. Wow, are they denying the election results?!?

    Who will replace May?

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  73. Cheque d'Out says:

    They’re ignoring who won – TBP (Nigel’s The Brexit Party) and talking up the LD (LimpDumbs) a previously nearly dead party who just received all the remoaniac vote because voters realised that the laba party will not deliver remain. So the LDs are full of themselves (despite not winning)

    TBP got loads more votes than the LDs. But the MSM is obsessed with the LDs.

    Then they add up the votes that didn’t go to TBP and UKIP and claim that all those votes were for remoan. Ignoring that both laba and toree parties stood at the last election as Leave. => Stupid people not paying attention might vote for either as ‘leave’.

    Now in reality (in addition to that) there are many reasons to vote for the greens (you’re retarded), the limp dumbs (you’re retarded and/or gullible) laba (you’re a retarded tribal voter who hasn’t worked out that laba is not for remain, though it claims to be) or the SNP (you’re… you get the idea).

    There’s only one reason to vote Brexit Party or UKIP…you’re a leaver.

    All the establishment and MSM are trying to tell themselves and us that the majority voted for remain…and they are fucking insane

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  74. Cheque d'Out says:

    There are very few leader candidates that can even hope to save the toreez by delivering WTO ‘no deal’ BREXIT. I do not think that the party has the sense to vote for those candidates. I think that they’ll elect someone who’ll try and fudge the issue and then they’re gone at the next General Election.

    Nigel’s show should be instructive as I think that he’s being realistic as to what happened. And what will happen.

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  75. Cheque d'Out says:

    One of the good toreez

    Mark ‘Penfold’ Francois

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  76. SFC Ton says:

    Happy news is always welcome Stephanie, congrats !

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  79. Liz says:

    Congrats Stephanie!!
    Very excited and happy for you. 🤗

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  81. Liz says:

    Other women on fb actually called me out on not going (Bc I wasn’t posting pics like all the other women were), and not bringing my girls especially.

    I probably mentioned before I had to get a FB account for Mike’s last assignment. Started it at the spouse’s course, where I met the other commanders’ spouses and they were my first FB “friends”. On the bright side, it was really poor form to post about politics, it was highly discouraged for obvious reasons. So there was no pressure.
    But there was one spouse from that group who was very anti-Trump, did the marches and all that. Hard to believe what she posted on social media, and I’m sure it didn’t help her husband’s career. Obese, check. Butch hair do, check.

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  83. RichardP says:

    Spawny – a critique please, particularly the bolded part. What is wrong about this analysis?

    From here:

    … the “Brexit Party”, founded only months ago and now led by rightist provocateur Nigel Farage, got the most votes almost everywhere in England outside of London and the most seats overall – 29 seats and 31.6% of the vote, far more than the Tories and Labour combined.

    But the picture looks very different if you step back a bit. There were five parties running as Remain parties – i.e., pro-EU, anti-Brexit. If you add up the Remain parties they got just over 40% of the vote compared to just under 35% for the hard Brexit parties (Farage’s new party and UKIP, his old party). The remaining 23% or so went to the Labour (14.1%) and Tories (9.1%), both of which are divided on Brexit, though Labour leans more Remain and the Tories more Leave. (The big party winners on the Remain side were the Liberal Democrats and the the Greens.)

    One very reasonable way to look at these numbers is that the election was about Brexit and neither of the two traditional parties of government took a clear stand on the issue. Both saw their support fall precipitously. Parties with clear Remain or Leave positions took the overwhelming majority of the votes (about 75%) and a clear majority of those went to Remain parties.

    An analogue to Trumpism is that Brexit support seems to be clearly a minority position in the UK (albeit a very large majority). Supporters of “no-deal Brexit” are definitely a minority. Yet they make up a large enough percentage of the electorate and are unified and coherent enough that they can drive the political agenda, even if they can’t necessarily carry their core policy to fruition.

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  84. Farm Boy says:


    — Lisa 🙏🌧🌍 (@godblesstoto) May 26, 2019

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  85. Cheque d'Out says:

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  86. Farm Boy says:

    Duschesne lays out his agenda in The Uniqueness of Western Civilization. His central contention, he writes, “will be that the West has always existed in a state of variance from the rest of the world’s cultures,” divergences that include, among a plethora of others, “the ‘Greek miracle’, the Roman invention of the legal persona, the Papal revolution, the invention of mechanical clocks, the Portuguese voyages of discovery, the Gutenberg revolution, the Cartographic revolution, the Protestant Reformation, the ‘rational’ mercantilist state and the ‘industrial enlightenment.’” He has no doubt that the “ideals of freedom and the reasoned pursuit of truth were cultivated and realized in the course of Western time.”

    Predictably, Duchesne has been attacked as a white supremacist in the leftist media


  87. Farm Boy says:

    During the roughly 28-minute address, Hillary talked about herself 106 times, or once every 16 seconds.


  88. Farm Boy says:

    Pets also symbolically reinforce the notion that vulnerable groups can be owned and fully controlled for the pleasure and convenience of more privileged and powerful groups. And this has implications for vulnerable human groups. For instance, sexism is partially maintained by treating women linguistically as pets – “kitten”, “bunny” – and physically by confining them to the home to please and serve the family patriarch.


  89. Cheque d'Out says:

    I was up till gone 3am last night so I’ll think about a better answer tomorrow but for now…

    There was only one reason to vote for ukip or the Brexit party…you wanted Brexit. The intentions of those voters are clear.

    The same is not true for the limpdumbs. I hear that 25% of members of the LDs were leavers. This was before this election. It was talking about members iirc. The LDs were definitely the major receiver of remoaner protest votes but not all their votes were for remain. Same for the Greens

    Nobody knows what the laba party policy is on Brexit. This is deliberate. They want northern voters to think they’re a leaver party. And metro-bubble luvvies to think they’re a remain party. Those who did vote for them are a mix of remain and leave. Probably more remain than leave but that’s a guess.

    The toreez were punished for not delivering…anything. They probably got mostly leave votes.

    So…just adding TBP and UKIP votes together and calling it the leave vote and everyone else remain is…bollocks. I’ve seen that tried today.

    Tired right now but I’ve seen plausible analysis dividing the parties realistically giving 60:40 leave:remain roughly.

    Certainly true that not every leaver wants WTO / ‘hard’ Brexit. Project Fear has had an effect.

    But…the leave date extension states that no renegotiation of the deal is possible (the delay is about the UK lubing up and bending over for the May Deal). But her deal will not get through parliament.

    So it looks like WTO or revoke Article 50 (call the whole thing off and then who knows what revenge the EU will inflict?)

    Interesting times because we know that revocation is an invitation to nowhere good. Democracy will be dead.

    Another referendum will (my guess) go Leave again. Unless the question is bent, quite clearly bent. Democracy will be dead as soon as the question for the referendum is set. Cue street festivities, is my guess. But who knows?

    I think it’s WTO or political chaos. The remoaners are playing with napalm and they don’t even seem to know it. I think that their owners don’t understand the situation or they don’t care.

    Still…got to laugh, ehh? Stock up on here and popcorn is my advice.

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  90. Cheque d'Out says:

    And thanks for the link, I’ll be interested to have a look tomorrow


  91. Cheque d'Out says:

    Need sleep now…good night

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  92. RichardP says:

    Looking at the clock, I figured you might already be asleep. Just wanted to get that posted before a.) I forgot about it or b) the link disappeared. Sweet dreams – of flying machines – and pieces of political parties on the ground.

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  93. Cheque d'Out says:

    No problem with the question, I think my answer is a bit garbled. I’ll claim that that’s down to tiredness and the fact that the situation is not very clear.


  94. Cheque d'Out says:

    Jezza Corbyn trying to have it both ways is the bridge. Those on his back are senior laba figures, remoaners. Starmer, Watson and Thornberry.

    Nigel at Jezza’s feet, tickling.

    Vince Cable, limpdumb, at Jezza’s hands.

    The laba party is close to breaking into metro-remain and wwc-brexit. And that break up will be epically bitter. PC types vs hard core commies.

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  95. Cheque d'Out says:

    Other Quisling remoaner Tory leadership candidates are available

    Jeremy Hunt

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  96. Cheque d'Out says:


  97. Cheque d'Out says:


    You must also ignore the up to 2 million votes cast by non British nationals who would not be eligible to vote in the referendum so it is a different electorate.
    Also you must ignore that not all Liberal voters and welsh/scot nat voters are remain.
    Also, the fact that turnout was greater in remain areas.
    and so on and on and on.


  98. Ame says:

    Congratulations Beautiful Stephanie!!!!!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂


  99. Ame says:

    i never really ‘got’ the herd thing … and wasn’t really accepted in the herd much – perhaps why i never really ‘got’ it? idk.

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  100. Ame says:

    (((hugs))) for those of you who lost loved ones, friends, buddies, in war. respect and honor to those who died.

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  101. Sumo says:

    At 10:41, FB insulted my people by comparing them to a couple of disgusting, bloated landwhales.

    This means war.

    [A warrior this is]

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  102. Farm Boy says:

    A senior political advisor to Sen. Bernie Sanders (I., Vt.) tweeted a gif Sunday of United Kingdom Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn dancing on the grave of former Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher.


  103. SFC Ton says:

    Pets also symbolically reinforce the notion that vulnerable groups can be owned and fully controlled for the pleasure and convenience of more privileged and powerful groups

    Damn! If they don’t like me owning dogs and live stock they will shit when they find out I own a couple of girls and a whole passel of crotch goblins


  104. BuenaVista says:

    Warmest congratulaitons to he Stephanie family.

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  105. SFC Ton says:

    This means war

    sorry man not scary. No one worries about going to war with Canda


  106. Liz says:

    Just reading a list of 30 things a wife should follow, and this one is particularly pertinent to the thread:

    26. Don’t associate with women who have a wrong mental attitude about marriage.

    Not all “herds” are bad. At one time, social conditioning generally reinforced pride and loyalty in the family. Virtue signaling via complaining about one’s spouse is a relatively new phenomenal, albeit widespread.

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  107. Congrats to Stephanie and clan!

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  108. Stephanie says:

    Thanks Spawny peeps!! We haven’t told hardly anyone, mostly just family, so it’s nice to be able to share here.

    I texted Ame almost right after the test though LOL…

    And on Liz’s point about not all herds being bad, that is so true!

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