STEM, One More Time

From here,

Though their numbers are growing, only 27 percent of all students taking the AP Computer Science exam in the United States are female. The gender gap only grows worse from there: Just 18 percent of American computer-science college degrees go to women. This is in the United States, where many college men proudly describe themselves as “male feminists” and girls are taught they can be anything they want to be.

Why yes, they are taught that they can be anything that they want to be.  But wait, there is more.  They are also pushed really hard to get into these male dominated fields.  Really, really hard.

Meanwhile, in Algeria, 41 percent of college graduates in the fields of science, technology, engineering, and math—or “stem,” as it’s known—are female.

I do wonder a bit about the sample size, but let’s go with it.

So what explains the tendency for nations that have traditionally less gender equality to have more women in science and technology than their gender-progressive counterparts do?

Love the “gender progressive” description.  Also, I wonder how much (and how) they learn.  Is it just rote memorization?

According to a new paper published in Psychological Science by the psychologists Gijsbert Stoet, at Leeds Beckett University, and David Geary, at the University of Missouri, it could have to do with the fact that women in countries with higher gender inequality are simply seeking the clearest possible path to financial freedom. And often, that path leads through stemprofessions.

This is plausible.  Very plausible.

But when it comes to their relative strengths, in almost all the countries—all except Romania and Lebanon—boys’ best subject was science, and girls’ was reading.

Nothing to see here.  We all know this.  The predispositions are mostly built-in.

And the more gender-equal the country, as measured by the World Economic Forum’s Global Gender Gap Index, the larger this gap between boys and girls in having science as their best subject. (The most gender-equal countries are the typical snowy utopias you hear about, like Sweden, Finland, and Iceland. Turkey and the United Arab Emirates rank among the least equal, according to the Global Gender Gap Index.)

AOC says that we should be more like Sweden.  I wonder where the results of this study will lead…

What’s more, the countries that minted the most female college graduates in fields like science, engineering, or math were also some of the least gender-equal countries. They posit that this is because the countries that empower women also empower them, indirectly, to pick whatever career they’d enjoy most and be best at.

So now we know.  When women are in the cat-bird’s seat, (as they are in Sweden, equality protestations aside), they pick the stuff that they like doing.  Some might uncharitably also suggest that they pick easy stuff.  Others might suggest they choose to do stuff that is next to useless.  But, we are not supposed to judge, are we?

So there we have it, it all makes sense.  It is very surprising that the Atlantic published something like this.  But who knows, maybe the editors were not paying attention?

Posted in FarmBoy, Feminism, Why
161 comments on “STEM, One More Time
  1. earl says:

    I’d surmise the whole ‘gender-equality’ nonsense was all about female superiority to begin with rather than actually making the genders equal.

    Because time and time again the sexes are meant to complement one another…they were never meant to be the same.

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  2. earl says:

    Sweden IS the end result of female superiority. It’s Cuckistan now.

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  3. “They posit that this is because the countries that empower women also empower them, indirectly, to pick whatever career they’d enjoy most and be best at.”

    Again, not a big Jordan Peterson fan, but he told that idiot woman pol (Swedish, I believe), “Look, you’re never going to get to 50% female engineers because they’re just not enough women who WANT to be engineers. You’ll have to MAKE THEM be engineers. Is that what you want?” She’s an idiot though, so it just bounced right off her. She was pretty hot though. Would bang. Or would bang her 15 years ago.

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  4. BuenaVista says:

    This is a go-to talking point for Jordan Peterson. He references Norway: Women choose “caring” (soft) professions. The disparity by sex is like 1950s America. Liberated from financial need, they don’t choose jobs where they don’t have to work very hard or are evaluated by objective outputs.

    My brother moved to Germany after college and remains. So, he’s basically German now. German wife, two daughters. Until he got sick, he was global IT manager for a shoe company you know. Before that he did international logisitics for a car company you know. My younger neice is in a five year degree program to be … a pre-school and early childcare provider. That’s five years of post-secondary trade school to be a certified diaper-changer.

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  5. BuenaVista says:

    Ah, KH types faster than I. Concur with KH.

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  6. BuenaVista says:

    The Swede (who insisted the world is unfair to females, otherwise more would looked like someone space physicists) locked up, like bad software, when JP quoted reality. They hate it when someone pulls their victim card and says, “Actually, this is counterfeit. But I won’t ask you to settle this outside.”

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  7. earl says:

    ‘That’s five years of post-secondary trade school to be a certified diaper-changer.’

    What a waste of money to do something that’s pretty self-explanatory.

    [No shit – FB]

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  8. earl says:

    Women seem to have this mindset to say things that go against their reality and then eventually revert back to who they are.

    But if a man says what a woman really is…they are a sexist pig.

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  9. Farm Boy says:

    She was pretty hot though.

    You know what is important

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  10. @ BV 5 years and a good deal of money spent by “someone” to accomplish what her mother/grandmother should have taught her for free.

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  11. Yes, you’re entire government is run by women, but somehow the country is still sexist and women are downtrodden.

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  12. Women are flexible when it comes to reality. Also, according to my repeated watching of SEC gymnastics events this season, some young women are just really fucking flexible, period.

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  13. I am now going to watch Jason Statham in “the Meg”. Gosh, I hope everyone’s gonna be Ok.

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  14. Farm Boy says:

    I am now going to watch Jason Statham in “the Meg”.

    No Swedish women were hurt in the making of the Meg.

    So off you go

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  15. earl says:

    Women probably would never get that trying to get that female superiority is sexist too. Only they try to make it out like it’s gender equality.

    Just say the sexes can’t ever be equal because they aren’t the same.

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  16. earl says:

    ‘Women are flexible when it comes to reality.’

    Especially if they mold themselves into the man’s reality.

    I’d proudly proclaim I’m a sexist and we have complementary roles. She can take it or leave it.

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  17. Farm Boy says:

    ‘Women are flexible when it comes to reality.’

    Yes, they like to live in a pretend world. The problem is, the real world is real.

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  18. Cheque d'Out says:

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  19. The May pic w things burning is good, but someone forgot the horns and tail!

    [Like this you mean?]

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  20. Cheque d'Out says:

    I truly appreciate that The Donald, POTUS, took time out of his day to warn us

    [Better late than never I suppose]

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  21. She’s a looker, but how’s the milk?


  22. mgtowhorseman says:

    Sex recession. I like that. As if it is just a cyclical downturn instead of a long term foundational change.

    Note the double whammy in this paragraph.

    “For women who are sexually active, they are likely choosing from a smaller pool of male candidates. Although some have heralded this as good news – that perhaps women are taking greater initiative and turning down partners they see as unfit – if one plans to settle down in a committed, monogamous relationship, it is women who will eventually be partnering with currently celibate young men. When the time comes, these men will be less experienced, not only in the bedroom, but in navigating romantic relationships too.”

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  23. Farm Boy says:


    Oddly enough, the perspective of men is seemingly not important

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  24. Re: sexual recession link

    More brilliant journalism…
    ” A cultural panic has ensued…” vs. ” Few seem concerned about what this signals as part of the larger picture. ” Well, which one is it, Dr. Girlfriend? It can’t be both. Sheesh.

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  25. Farm Boy says:

    One evening last September, a Michigan State University student awoke from his nap to see his roommate sitting at his computer. There was a video playing, and the student realized his roommate was watching a video of conservative commentator Ben Shapiro.

    The newly awoken student then took to his own computer to file a complaint with the administration’s bias reporting system against his roommate for watching the Shapiro video.


  26. BuenaVista says:

    Asking the important questions. This is how you get tenure.

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  27. Farm Boy says:

    Academia is supposed to be looking for truth, not the sanctioned current truth

    Liked by 1 person

  28. BuenaVista says:

    Critical theory established — and it’s settled science, experts agree — that “truth” is merely a social construct reflecting pushback against bigoted misogynist racist power structures. We’ve known this since Derrida. I’m reporting you to the bias response team.

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  29. Farm Boy says:

    Please don’t report me. I confess my sins. All cultures are equally good. All bad things are social constructs. They mask the good pure non social constructs of the world. All is relative, even when it isn’t.

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  30. Adam says:

    Anyone who wants more women to design bridges, and airplanes, and research into cancer of the knob, really needs to have their head examined for absence of a living brain.

    Liked by 3 people

  31. Something, something… shadows on a cave wall.


  32. “Gender scholar” is a social construct.

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  33. Liz says:

    Microbiology, cytotechnology, biochemistry and so forth are more art than science.
    It ain’t like building bridges or planes.

    Liked by 1 person

  34. Farm Boy says:

    So how does one differentiate between a social construct and a non social construct?


  35. mgtowhorseman says:

    Algebra for women.

    If X% of men are not acceptable for sex, marriage, etc.
    And the population is roughly 1 to 1
    The Y% of females will never marry or have long term parners.

    Solution: X=Y

    Put in written because women do better at the arts

    “For every guy you reject, one of your sisters aint getting a ring on it.”

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  36. mgtowhorseman says:

    Liz liz liz.

    “Microbiology, cytotechnology, biochemistry and so forth are more art than science.
    It ain’t like building bridges or planes.”

    Bridges are not built. They appear out of the peer related acceptence of the societial paradigm. Its why its called “social construct.” Its got construct right in it. Unbeliever!!

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  37. Ame says:

    6h ago
    Critical theory established — and it’s settled science, experts agree — that “truth” is merely a social construct reflecting pushback against bigoted misogynist racist power structures. We’ve known this since Derrida. I’m reporting you to the bias response team.

    Farm Boy
    6h ago
    Please don’t report me. I confess my sins. All cultures are equally good. All bad things are social constructs. They mask the good pure non social constructs of the world. All is relative, even when it isn’t.



  38. Ame says:

    Ailing nurse alleges to having swapped 5,000 babies within 12 years for fun

    Elizabeth Mwewa confessed her sins on her hospital bed

    – The former nurse who is suffering from cancer revealed she exchanged about 5,000 babies while working at the hospital

    – Mwewa added that it became a habit and she used to do it for fun

    – The sick nurse asked God for forgiveness

    Nurses are seen as caregivers in the hospital and patients are supposed to feel safe and taken care of in their charge.

    However, some nurses have proven to be the devil in human form.

    I swapped about 5,000 Babies in 12 years I worked in maternity ward at UTH – Elizabeth Mwewa

    A Zambian nurse, Elizabeth Mwewa, has confessed her sins on her sick bed as she asked God for forgiveness, Zambian Observer reported.

    The nurse who used to work at The University Teaching Hospital (UTH) in Zambia confessed that she has exchanged over 5000 babies during 12 years of service.

    Download the Microsoft News App to keep a track of all the latest updates

    “I have terminal cancer and I know I will be dying soon. I wish to confess my sins before God and before all the affected people especially those who were giving birth at UTH during my service,” she said.
    According to the elderly woman, she is now born again and did not want to hide anything that would stop her from visiting the land of honey and milk.

    ” I have nothing to hide, In the 12 years I worked in the maternity ward at UTH, I swapped close to 5000 babies,” she confessed.
    Mwewa added that it became a habit and she used to do it for fun which has now acknowledged that she has sinned against God and Zambians and would want them to forgive her.

    “I know I sinned against God and may he forgive me for that. I am also asking Zambians to forgive me for the evil things I was doing to innocent children. I have caused some faithful couples to divorce after going for DNA Tests,” she said.
    She also put the blame on the devil whom she claimed was using her to commit the sins she’s most regretful now.

    “I have caused many mothers to breastfeed children who are not theirs biologically. I don’t want to go to Hell for that, Am really sorry I have sinned alot. Please forgive me,” she begged.
    Mwewa also added that kids born between 1983 to 1995 at the hospital should check themselves particularly if they look different from their other siblings.

    “If you were born in UTH between the years 1983 to 1995 chances are your parents may not be your biological parents. I had developed a habit of swapping newly born babies just for fun,” she said.
    So take a good look at your siblings, if for example everyone is light and you are darkie… you are that child and I am really sorry for that,” she added.
    It is strange how someone can think swapping babies is fun.


  39. Farm Boy says:

    If a bridge falls on you and you become a pancake, is that a social construct?

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  40. Liz says:

    There is no pancake.

    Liked by 2 people

  41. Liz says:

    The pancake is a lie.

    Liked by 4 people

  42. Liz says:

    Allison Mack has pleaded guilty to sex slave racketeering charges.
    Ho boy. I suspect she is going to looove prison.
    They could start a talk show called “so…you think you’re a real dominatrix?”

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  43. SFC Ton says:

    Nurses are seen as caregivers in the hospital and patients are supposed to feel safe and taken care of in their charge.
    Reckon someone ain’t visited a hospital lately

    Nurses are pretty much all brown skinned 3rd world retards with bad attitudes and worse English

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  44. Farm Boy says:

    NABOO—Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has come under fire after giving a speech to a crowd of Gungan supporters on the planet of Naboo. Critics claim Ocasio-Cortez clearly shifted her speaking style to try to emulate the Gungans’ speech patterns, changing her speech to sound exactly like that of Jar Jar Binks.

    “Meesa Ocasio-Cortez. Meesa gonna seize the means of production big-big,” she said as the Gungan crowd cheered. “Meesa your humble servant who’s in charge.” The congresswoman unveiled a plan to save Naboo, one which would coincidentally require giving her all the power and money. “Yousa planet gonna die big, icky icky goo goo if yousa don’t change your habits.” She pointed out that the ecosystem of the planet’s core was already changing, and the giant monsters which live down there will likely die within 12 Coruscant solar cycles.

    “Yousa all gonna do whatever I say now, okeeday?” she added.

    Some Gungans were offended by her remarks. “Ex-squeeze me, but wesa the ones who say ‘mesa,’ not yousa!” cried one Gungan in protest. Ocasio-Cortez ignored his comments, as he was sitting in the cheap seats.

    Critics quickly called the obvious shift in speech patterns “pandering,” but Ocasio-Cortez immediately fired back on her Comlink, saying, “How wude.”

    [Impressed by anybody in the story I am not]

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  45. Farm Boy says:

    In an astonishing disclosure about the two greatest dangers to the future of America’s economy, Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell revealed on CBS’ “60 Minutes” last month the peril posed by “young males”: young males not looking for work; being addicted to drugs (think opioid crisis); and being unprepared for the transition to technology. Powell posits that this economic problem is also a national security problem. He implies that we ignore this crisis at our own peril


  46. Farm Boy says:

    Climate change” was a transparent attempt to make capitalism responsible for all the ills of the planet – up to an including the heat-death of Earth – from the moment Al Gore debuted his documentary in 2006. But in 2019, the left isn’t even trying to hide that fact anymore. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s Green New Deal was only partially about climate change at all. A good portion of that absurd legislation was geared towards “racial, economic, and reproductive justice.” And the same SJW spirit is alive in Carolyn Centeno Milton’s new Forbes article, entitled: “What if Toxic Masculinity is the Reason for Climate Change?”


  47. SFC Ton says:

    the peril posed by “young males”: young males not looking for work

    Whats in it for the young men?

    Also what an insulting prick

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  48. Farm Boy says:

    “I have been asking myself for the last two weeks what is this really about,” she said. “As someone who has lived in this city, who came up in the projects of this city to serve as the first African American woman in this role, it is disheartening to me … that when we get in these positions somehow the goalposts chang


  49. BuenaVista says:

    FB: “So how does one differentiate between a social construct and a non social construct?”

    Eezy-Peezy. A social construct is a subjective, and mutable word *construction* that permits the application of ideology to basic, observable facts. A non-social construct is a basic, observable fact that has organized society or science or art for 3000 years.

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  50. Luckily where my two kiddos were born, the room you have baby in is the room you all stay in together until you all leave together.

    A nurse switching babies is seriously messed up! How cruel. To all involved. I pray somehow His will be done there. For the greater glory of all. Somehow.

    It’s not about all the people involved forgiving her. It’s bigger than that. Only God can decide this one. Wow.

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  51. RichardP says:

    Texas Tech was very good. But Virginia was just a bit better. The observable fact is that Virgina won the national basketball championship in overtime. Well … observable if one was watching. Good game.

    FB: a social construct would be something that humans create. A non-social construct would be something that humans had no hand in creating, but have to deal with just the same. Wikipedia has a good list of references on the subject.

    So – was Virginia’s basketball win a social construct or not?


  52. RichardP says:

    Only God can decide this one. Wow.

    Seems that he already did when he did not intervene in her switching project.


  53. Larry G says:

    “Ailing nurse alleges to having swapped 5,000 babies within 12 years for fun”

    So? One woman swapped 5000 babies in 12 years = public outrage = Sin, right?

    women fucking men other than their lawful husbands, getting knocked up then saying it is his child..been happening for hundreds of years at least. How many babies swapped that way? = Not a fucking peep of outrage, rather the hubby gets the privilege of paying child support or raising the spawn even when it’s proven it’s not his.



  54. Liz says:

    Luckily where my two kiddos were born, the room you have baby in is the room you all stay in together until you all leave together.
    A nurse switching babies is seriously messed up! How cruel. To all involved. I pray somehow His will be done there. For the greater glory of all. Somehow.

    Keep in mind this was Zambia.
    Same third world nurse ‘tards….but they come by it honestly. 😆

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  55. Farm Boy says:

    San Francisco has been overwhelmingly Democratic since the 1950s. The last Republican mayor won an election in 1956. It is a one-party city touting a civic philosophy with its back to the wall. From afar city Democrats pay lip service to helping the poor. But up close the facts tell a different story. None of their policies in the last half-century have done much to rescue the poor from poverty. Inflexible limits on the housing supply push marginalized groups even further to the margins. The stratospheric cost of housing has flung minority families to the outer edges of the Bay Area, reinforcing segregation. A UC Berkeley study found that a 30 percent increase in the median rent led to a 28 percent decrease in the number of minority households in a neighborhood. Whole neighborhoods from the city have decamped to the hinterlands of Antioch and Vallejo. Stories of three-hour commutes from Stockton have become more common.

    Alas, the media seems to have never taken an economics class, much less read Paul Krugman. It is quite simply baffling. Housing restrictions have made the situation worse and worse for decades. No one seems to notice that the same debates play out time and again to no positive end


  56. Farm Boy says:

    An Australian man who spent 32 days in jail after his wife falsely accused him of rape and domestic abuse has filed a lawsuit seeking more than $500,000 in damages.

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  57. Farm Boy says:

    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: ‘What We Need to Do is Have a Serious Conversation’ About Cow Flatulence


  58. Liz says:

    Speaking of third world shiteholes:
    KJU inspecting Samjiyon potato factory.
    …but wait!
    Just last month the Dutch government seized 90000 vodka bottles bound for the DPRK!!

    Hmm. I thought at the time the vodka story was odd.
    Why smuggle vodka in when Industrial quantities can be produced with 3000 year old technology rather cheaply? By contrast, Whiskey, brandy/cognac, tequila, rum would make more sense.
    Vodka/potato hub….vodka/potato hub.
    There’s a conspiracy story here, but I just can’t figure it out.
    Perhaps KJU is the real Mr Potato Head?!?
    (his French name would be Pomme de Terrible)

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  59. Farm Boy says:

    The United Kingdom has been stingy with its state visits since Donald Trump became president, but it seems Queen Elizabeth II is willing to make an exception, even amid the Brexit crisis, to welcome Trump for the 75th anniversary of D-Day on June 6th.

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  60. Cheque d'Out says:

    She signed the death note of democracy last night. The monarchy is dead.

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  61. Liz says:

    Sorry Swithy. 😦

    Liked by 1 person

  62. Cheque d'Out says:

    The monarchy was going to die with her anyway, she just moved up the schedule.

    Liked by 1 person

  63. Cheque d'Out says:

    I’ve never been a fan, I just thought it was better to have a Queen than…President Blair, Varadkar (? irish) or Macron. Because she wasn’t political. However she has proved herself useless.

    Charles was going to kill it anyway, he’s always spouting bullshit. Hiring a passenger jet to fly him and his mates to a green conference.

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  64. ****SPOILER ALERT****

    Yeah, so in The Meg not everybody gets to high-five each other at the end of the movie.

    Also, I will have an order of the Li BingBing with steamed rice and one egg roll, please.


  65. Cheque d'Out says:

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  66. Cheque d'Out says:

    Interesting documentary, I think it’s from the ‘Seconds form disaster’ series

    Seconds from disaster series’ highlights


  67. Liz says:

    Yeah, so in The Meg not everybody gets to high-five each other at the end of the movie.

    But the question is…did your boys like it? Because I’d never heard of that movie, but my boys think megaladons are pretty epic. The Rock would look like a little tic-tac to a megaladon.


  68. Liz says:

    Random “no shit Sherlock” rant:
    Jesus there are some idiots on the internet.
    Just tried to respond to a “political sanity” (self titled) blog.
    “Trump called Tim Cook Apple!”
    Um…no, he was referring to Apple, the company Tim is in charge of…hence, the pause.
    “ think you can read Trump’s mind do yah?! You Trumpites are all the same!”
    Yeah, he probably wasn’t referring to the company the guy just happens to be in charge of. Obviously he mistook him for a piece of fruit.
    What the ()*^)^&*)

    Shame on me. Shame, shame, shame on me for talking to idiots.

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  69. Cheque d'Out says:

    “Poll in Le Figaro this afternoon – should the EU give Britain an extension – 82% say no”
    (French newspaper)

    You BEAUTIES!!! Go for it, I double dare you

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  70. Cheque d'Out says:

    I read the book ‘Meg’ many years ago, don’t remember thinking much of it either way.

    I think it was a book left behind at a dive shop in Koh Tao (Turtle Island).

    At the time the electricity on the island went off at around 10pm. I had a beachfront bungalow at a ‘luxury’ resort where their generator ran till it ran out of fuel at about 7am. About £8 a night, that bungalow, but I could sleep underneath the fan (until the genny stopped and the heat woke me).

    Happy days.

    The brick shack with the bucket flush toilet that I described before was on Koh Samui, that was £3 a night iirc. There was only one boat each way from Samui (with the airport) and Tao (never saw a turtle) per day. I needed a room for a night, it was great.

    Hit 42m on Chumporn Pinnacle (the seabed)

    I’d only done 22 dives in the UK before I went…

    It was my divorce un-honeymoon

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  71. Cheque d'Out says:

    Elect a woman, they said. She’ll be great, they said. Another Maggie, they said.

    Liked by 2 people

  72. Cheque d'Out says:

    And nobody bothers to greet her on the red carpet

    Liked by 1 person

  73. Farm Boy says:

    If a bridge falls on a pancake and makes it flatter, is it still a pancake?

    Liked by 2 people

  74. Farm Boy says:

    Students protest visiting Professor Brett Kavanaugh as threat to ‘mental health’


  75. Farm Boy says:

    So they have to take refuge in running down Britain as weak, powerless, second-rate, etc., etc., etc.; in mocking Leavers as old, ignorant, uneducated, xenophobic, racist, etc., etc., etc.; in deceptive advertising of May’s deal as “the Brexit you voted for”; and in increasingly desperate attempts to change the parliamentary and constitutional rules to force through a Potemkin Brexit that fails to deceive anyone and enrages almost everyone.


  76. The Meg is a completely adequate action movie that bears the all too common now-a-days heavy stamp of being produced with the Chinese movie market in mind. I believe it’s Chinese co-financed production, so no real surprise there. Of course, since that’s the case, the plot, dialogue, and characterization needs to remain fairly simple, which it is the case for all three here. The “science-y” stuff is all pretty terrible and people do lots of dumb things to move the plot along, but really, I’ve just described 95% of movies made in the last 30 years.

    My younger boy liked it and we had a good time watching it together. We tried to guess in which order people would get eaten, and which people would prove to be shark-proof, which was fun. It does drag on a bit at the end, but still it was “good enough” for us.

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  77. College is a threat to mental health these days.

    Liked by 4 people

  78. The physical action of the bridge impacting the pancake does not change the inherent nature of the pancake itself, though it may deform the pancake, the pancake molecules are themselves intact and thus retain their pancake-ness.

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  79. Farm Boy says:

    Does it deconstruct the pancake?

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  80. The question is moot.

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  81. Since you’d need to ask the pancake itself if it identifies as being de-constructed, as well as for it’s preferred pronouns.

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  82. Farm Boy says:

    Even if it didn’t identify as trans-flat, it was. This is more than just a social construct.

    Furthermore, was it a dolezal, where it was white, but identified as whole wheat?

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  83. Farm Boy says:

    What was certain was that the people behind the film hate people like us. People who are white, and male, and heterosexual, and given to enjoying stuff like comic books and games. Kind of the entire target audience. But they made no bones about the fact that they hate us and that they didn’t want us to see the film.


  84. Cheque d'Out says:

    May’s female consensus seeking behaviour just leads to better, more collegiate governance, I’m sure.

    Liked by 1 person

  85. Larry G says:

    Jeez, this is scaring the shit outta me….all the chatter about PC Pancake is staring to make sense…I needa drink

    Liked by 2 people

  86. Larry G says:

    so I suppose a waffle id racial bias? Same ingredients, different texture

    Liked by 2 people

  87. Cheque d'Out says:

    Oh noes!!! May trying to get laba to blame-share and vote through her shit deal not going well.

    Dear EU, do yourselves and us a favour and don’t give her an extension.


  88. Cheque d'Out says:

    The UKIP leader. Gérard Batten, at work

    Not that I’ve read their manifesto at all, but I’m looking no further for the party that I’ll vote for at every chance. Maybe the tory party can come back from irrelevance and treachery? IDK. But that’s where they are now, so fuck ’em.


  89. Cheque d'Out says:

    “I needa drink”

    Do try and keep up

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  90. Cheque d'Out says:

    I guess that the news from the tory roots regarding their reception on the doorstep aren’t encouraging

    He’s not re-running for his seat on the gravy train because he knows that he has no fucking chance whatsoever. It’s going to be a tory (and laba outside the metrobubbles) bloodbath.

    Yesterday (iirc) a labour MEP Mary Honeyballs (something like that) claimed that she wouldn’t re-run for ‘personal reasons’. Personal reasons like not fancying a hobnail boot up her proverbial electoral arse? We can only speculate (and snigger)

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  91. I’m just I can finally put my 4 years at M.I.P to some good use …


  92. Cheque d'Out says:

    One of the authors of the shit bill that destroyed our democracy having a bad day

    ‘She’ is the remain MP for a constituency that voted around 70% to LEAVE

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  93. BuenaVista says:

    Pot-smoking American entepeneur cleaning (wired gov’t contractor) Boeing’s clock. And that of Arianespace. And Soyuz. (Russians have shut down commercial lift development.)

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  94. BuenaVista says:

    Boeing is now a year behind SpaceX. Their award for a new heavy launch vehicle (fixed price contract) is almost 2x what SpaceX was awarded.


  95. Liz says:

    Don’t know if anyone has heard, but Boeing is testing and fielding the F15SE (5th gen F15) now. Think they’ve made about 8 so far.
    There are a lot of ironies to this as 20 years ago a lot of folks wanted to upgrade F16s and F15s instead of buying entirely new airframes (F22 and F35). Lockheed convinced them that the new planes would be cheaper than upgrading the old (back then the JSF was supposed to be relatively “cheap”). And now, 20 years later we’re doing what they wanted to do 20 years back.

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  96. BuenaVista says:

    My first child was born in the largest suburban hospital in DC. So, during our lovey-dovey pre-birth delivery seminars there (“Who would like a pillow?”), they walked us through the steps occurring after the child is born and removed from the mother and father.

    At the time, I was working for a spacecraft and space communications company. I understood industrial processes, which fail daily, and that is what a hospital that size is: a baby processing function. So I raised my hand. “Since you deliver a gazillon babies a year, what are the odds somewhat gets distracted and children are mixed up? What is your error rate?” The nurse and several of the future fathers wanted to throw me out a window for being impertinent. I added, “No factory has 0% errors, sorry.”

    My wife and I agreed I would leave her and follow the baby until I saw the correct bracelet on her wrist. Of course, I wasn’t allowed in the nursery. I requested they band in front of the window, and show me the label with Grace’s full name on it. A bunch of nurses were seriously torqued off, but they complied.

    I know she’s my real daughter because she’s a competitive, analytical terror if provoked, and has inherited her mother’s superior social skills and looks.

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  97. Cheque d'Out says:

    As big a democrat as the remoaniacs then.

    His country is clearly compatible with EU membership


  98. BuenaVista says:

    My understanding is that the F-15s (and new F-15X’s) are going to be heavily laden gunships operating with the situational awareness of the lightly armored, sensor-rich, stealthy F-35s. This is interesting to me. Of course, I don’t know anything about the subject on a professional level.

    I am pleased the USAF has decided to stop flying F-15s until the wings fall off from metal fatigue.

    I do think we should have another 200 F-22s.

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  99. Cheque d'Out says:

    Not a fan of the electric cars, but the rockets are bigly impressive.

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  100. Cheque d'Out says:

    Genuinely said (by laba mongs) to be a potential future labour leader

    Rebecca Mong-Daily MP who is definitely not a balloon with a small face drawn on it, with intellect to match…definitely not

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  101. Cheque d'Out says:

    If you see video of her do not…DO NOT…look at the mesmerising eyebrows as they dance the dance of witchy entrapment

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  102. Larry G says:

    “I needa drink”

    Do try and keep up

    Well it is the middle of the work day yet and the boss may slightly disapprove of a liquid lunch, but I”ll be discreet

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  103. BuenaVista says:

    I think we’re also building F-15s again to keep the talent on the floor and in the supply chain.

    Apparently the USN is in trouble with their aggressive new sub deliveries because the government allowed the sub development and engineering and production chains to wither. Now they’re scrambling to find enough talent, and enough subcontractors to simultaneously build the new Virginia and boomer classes. Electric Boat and Ingalls are the only two builders who produce them, and they lost talent and suppliers during the lulls and cycles of the previous three decades.

    Long ago, I would go downtown in New London to get bombed with the squids and bubbleheads (USN surface and sub personnel stationed at Groton). I loved to stand on the pier because there would be production underway with some godawful huge hulking vessel across the harbor at the Electric Boat facility. I’m telling you, you have no idea how menacing is an Ohio-class sub tied up, lit by industrial lamps while work goes on. (For the less nautical, these house ICBMs, are 600′ long, and on duty, sit silently in the deeps for three months at a time.) We see these things in photos, fine. Stare at one at night 1000 meters away and you’ll go bugeyed.

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  104. BuenaVista says:

    I would never buy a Tesla either.

    Gas is cheap and will get cheaper. The Permian is producing more now than the Saudis and we have the largest gas and oil proven reserves in the world. My only beef is that Detroit has stopped building V-10s.

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  105. Cheque d'Out says:

    Ginger though…just saying

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  106. Cheque d'Out says:

    Been in a RN HK. Alongside only though.


  107. Liz says:

    Heh, when they were doing the initial testing on the JSF simulators, they used the F22 guys (this still during the testing phase of the F22, it wasn’t in operation units yet).
    So Mike and the other guys went to England to provide some data (they’d play on the sims, basically, and the scientists would use the analysis for something).
    Anyway, the RAF pilots took them to pubs every day, and they were notorious for claiming Americans couldn’t handle “real” beer. So, it was kind of like a daily dare and US pilots got sloshed (though so did the RAF guys). Anyway, long story short there was only one day when they weren’t either drunk or hung over while doing the simulators. Later, that day was referenced by the scientists as having some sort of anomalous data points. They disregarded. 😆

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  108. Cheque d'Out says:

    I’m sure that important lessons were learnt by both sides…

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  109. So Boeing has twice as many jobs for ex-gov officials to retire into?


  110. Is this one Punch or Judy?

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  111. Liz says:

    She looks like a painted pomme de terrible.

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  112. Larry G says:

    “She looks like a painted pomme de terrible.”

    maybe an ugly border collie?

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  113. Mrs. Doubtfire has an ugly cousin.


  114. Farm Boy says:

    If a border collie gets flattened by a falling bridge, does it still have a border?

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  115. Cheque d'Out says:

    In her defence, she’s even worse when you can hear her.

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  116. Larry G says:

    “If a border collie gets flattened by a falling bridge, does it still have a border?”

    my guess..nope….a flattened border collie looses it’s border and becomes a rim, therefore to be PC it is a rim collie, rather flattened out

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  117. @ FB Yes, the but border is defined as a wet vs. dry line of demarcation.

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  118. @BV Unfortunately it seems our seems our nuclear subs are vulnerable to Megalodon-based attacks per some recent intelligence I was able to view.

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  119. Cheque d'Out says:


  120. Cheque d'Out says:

    Aquaman too, I hear.

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  121. Larry G says:

    Purebred Rim (ex Border) Collie….

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  122. Liz says:

    Aquaman too, I hear.

    I saw the intel on that one. 😆

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    But Senator Ron Wyden of Oregon is the top-ranking member of the Senate’s tax committee, not a candidate for president, and not a 29-year-old bartender-turned-Instagram-star. And his recent policy proposal to tax unrealized capital gains is just as extreme, silly, impractical, dangerous, and inane as any of the aforementioned policy whiffs floating around in the leftist hemisphere.

    The current capital-gains tax works this way: When one purchases a capital asset such as a stock or a piece of investment real estate, the purchase price becomes the “cost basis,” and when it is sold, the difference between the cost basis and the sale price becomes a “capital gain.” If the asset was held over one year, its gain is taxed at a 15 to 20 percent rate (depending on the taxpayer’s overall income). Additionally, a 3.8 percent surtax exists (the Obamacare tax) for all making over $250,000. So for simplicity’s sake, we have a capital-gains tax in our country of somewhere between 15 percent and 23.8 percent whenever an asset is sold at a profit after one year. (The rate is higher if the asset is sold within one year – basically, it’s taxed at ordinary income-tax rates.)

    Senator Wyden has proposed taxing the asset each year regardless of whether or not it has been sold, based on a subjective assessment of how much value it has gained. The problems here are almost as severe as the problems with getting a wind-powered ride across the Pacific Ocean in the Green New Deal.

    So he wants to tax people on gains they haven’t actually accrued…

    I’m not good with this kind of math, but unless my stock doubles in value each year, this seems like a great way to get people to bury their money in coffee cans.

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  124. Ame says:

    when our babies were born, my husband stayed with them when they left the room. Oldest, though, looked just like her dad … Youngest looked just like my paternal grandmother. i studied them so i’d know if they were switched. i knew the hospital had all these protocols in place, but … trust with my newborn was not very high.

    would have loved to been in the room when BV had that ‘discussion’ about 0 failure rate 😉

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  125. Red Letter Media was not impressed with Aquaman so I skipped it. Haven’t heard of Jason Momoa saying anything incredibly stupid (yet), like say, Chris Evans, but frankly I just don’t care about that character very much. Boys were very “meh” about going, so money saved.

    Now, I very much was interested in the next Godzilla movie even though the last one was BORING, because the Kong movie was decent. Shin Godzilla wasn’t very entertaining either. But, the first trailer for “King of the Monsters” looks awful. You don’t bring out Mothra, Rodan, and King Ghidrah all in the same movie, you idiots. That a Big G vs. X each, plus at least one more team up movie you’re throwing away. 4 freaking chances to make $250-500 million a apiece, you festering twats.

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  126. Liz says:

    I’m not good with this kind of math, but unless my stock doubles in value each year, this seems like a great way to get people to bury their money in coffee cans.

    Wouldn’t be long before the coffee cans would be worth more than the money in them.

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  127. I haven’t really been looking, but does coffee still come in a can? I always get mine in a bag that’s costs way to much. Hmmm, OAC should get on that pronto. Or maybe she’s in cahoots with Juan Valdez…

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  128. Cheque d'Out says:


  129. Farm Boy says:

    A Spanish speed circuit is in hot water after an advertisement for grid girls stipulated that they “must have a size 95 or 100 chest,” which is roughly 36″ – 38″ according to La Vanguardia.

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  130. Cheque d'Out says:

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  131. Farm Boy says:

    She is full of shit

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  132. Cheque d'Out says:

    [Looks Better AOC does]

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  133. Farm Boy says:

    On Monday night, Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.), a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee and a candidate for president in 2020, seems not to understand the concept of tactical nuclear weapons. She warned against developing nuclear weapons that are “tactile,” warning such weapons are dangerous and should not be developed.
    There is no such thing as a “tactile nuclear weapon.” Gillibrand meant to attack tactical nuclear weapons

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  134. Farm Boy says:

    If a border collie is vaporized by a tactile nuclear weapon, did it feel anything?

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  135. Ame says:

    y’all are funnee today! lol!

    Liked by 1 person

  136. Liz says:

    I’ll bet Gillibrand knows a lot about science.
    Perhaps we should go back to non-tactical types like Fat Man and Big Boy.


  137. Larry G says:

    Hmm, Gillibrand in a three way with a fat man and a BIG boy….KINKY, Liz! Got pics?

    I’ll bet Gillibrand knows a lot about science.
    Perhaps we should go back to non-tactical types like Fat Man and Big Boy.

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  138. Liz says:

    Gah. I did walk into that one.
    And now I need mind bleach.

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  139. See, you are thinking in binary terms, an obvious sign of white, toxic masculinity.

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  140. As is yours, CdO. 🙂

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  141. Those new “Biden” class tactical nukes are sure to give our enemies a bad feeling.

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  142. mgtowhorseman says:



  143. 3,5,2,1,4
    From a girl perspective, lol


  144. Possibly 3,4,2,1,5


  145. Farm Boy says:

    According to Fox News, the duckling trio featured three different chocolates: white, milk, and dark; each with a different name. The white chocolate had been named “Fluffy,” the milk chocolate named “Crispy,” and the dark chocolate named “Ugly.” When Waitrose announced the packaging on social media, people immediately deemed the market’s decision to name the dark chocolate duckling “Ugly” racist.


  146. Farm Boy says:

    U.S.—Progressive spokespeople issued a statement this morning offering a friendly reminder that if you don’t agree with them on every last issue they will absolutely destroy you.

    “It doesn’t matter if you’re with us on 90% of issues. If you disagree on one thing, we will make it our goal to ruin your career, your livelihood, and your reputation,” one woman, speaking on behalf of the nation’s progressives, said. “It doesn’t even matter if you said one tiny thing years ago that seems to go against our progressive agenda. We. Will. Destroy. You.”


  147. SFC Ton says:

    Only dumb asses bury their money in a coffee can

    You bury your cash in mason jars.

    Didn’t y’alls daddy teach you a damn thing?

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  148. SFC Ton says:

    I’d bang all 5 of them bitches in one round.

    Then tell em not to come back unless they bring a couple of their hot girlfriends


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