The Mix

The Mix sounds like a radio station, but rather it relates to something coming from this quote

I read a quote once that, if men don’t compute that there is at least a 50-50 chance of success, they don’t even bother to try, where a woman will keep trying past the point of harming herself.

More specifically, the a woman will keep trying past the point of harming herself part is of interest.  Of course, this is referring to a woman and her dealings with men.  Perhaps women should be lauded for the effort that they bring.  But perhaps we should consider the situation further.

Yes, many women do put in considerable effort with respect to garnering attention of men.  The real question is: what kind of attention are they trying for?

Often it is implied that they are virtuous and are only seeking attention for the sake of getting married and starting a family.  Perhaps this was actually the case in the olden days.   These days, in the late teens and early twenties, the mix for the working/professional girl is probably more like this (your mileage may vary),

10%  Find a husband

20%  Have “fun”

30%  Soak up validation

40%  Hot sex

If anybody out there wants to suggest different values, feel free to do so.

In the mid twenties, it is more like

30% Find a husband

10% Have “fun”

20% Soak up validation

40% Hot sex

In the late twenties

60% Find a husband

5%  Have fun

10% Soak up validation

25% Hot sex

Come the thirties

90%  Find a husband

10% Hot sex

For some, this mixture schedule works (seemingly for now).  For others, it fails miserably in the end.

If only there was a mixture schedule that less likely to fail over the long run…

P.S.  What might the churchian mix schedule look like?

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287 comments on “The Mix
  1. Farm Boy says:

    Naturally enough, not all women are like that


  2. On TCM they played three Elvis movies back to back with Jailhouse Rock being the first one. Elvis is in prison at the start of the movie and does some kind of TV talent show from the jailhouse which results in thousands of girls writing him fan letters which he is given when he gets out of jail. In one letter he reads a girl writes, “Hi. I saw you on the that TV prison talent TV show. I’m 15 years old and my measurements are 35-24-36. I live at this 2424 Mockingbird Lans and my phone # is 555-1212. Call me when you get out of prison.”

    Dozens of females apparently sent love letters to the surviving Boston Marathon bomber.

    Bitches Be Crazy. That is all.

    P.S. Judy Tyler played the love interest in Jailhouse Rock. She was a real cutie:

    Tragically, she died in a car accident along with her newlywed husband very shortly after the movie wrapped.


  3. SFC Ton says:

    I really detest the qualifier nawalt

    The ones who aren’t know what’s up, know most women are just like that and it just comes across as beta s hell.

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  4. Larry G says:

    FB, which two women did you have in mind that are NAWALT?

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  5. Farm Boy says:

    Well Ton, there are some


  6. Farm Boy says:

    Larry G,

    Probably one is your wife


  7. Larry G says:

    She has her moments even after being married for nearly 26 years. But I got her in a whole lot different circumstances than the females of today

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  8. Larry G says:

    I negotiated with her father and set a bride price to be paid for my wife-to-be, she had basically fuck all to say about the deal. There is something to be said about arranged marriages, it cuts most of the stupid and useless shit out of the courtship since the outcome is a foregone conclusion. There is no way in hell I could see putting a ring on the useless females in today’s so-called modern society.


  9. Farm Boy says:

    She seems rather happy about the situation

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  10. Apparently, Elvis was quite smitten with her and took her death pretty hard.

    N.B. She played an Indian princess on the Howdy Doody show.

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  11. FYI:

    Here is the image that Wikipedia considers to be representative of Homo sapiens:


  12. mgtowhorseman says:

    Mute the shitty music


  13. Farm Boy says:


    That is a “Native American Princess” for us Americans

    Elizabeth Warren insists that we be correct


  14. Farm Boy says:

    For Horseman, that would be “First Nation Princess”


  15. Farm Boy says:

    For Ton, I am not sure what she would be


  16. BuenaVista says:

    OT: The other day I was outspoken on the need for involuntary asylum commitments.

    Here is, perhaps, an historical antecedent to our inability to commit the ill to asylums. There were a lot of quirky, healthy people condemned to this 19th century state asylum, no doubt.

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  17. Ame says:

    P.S. What might the churchian mix schedule look like?

    i don’t think it’d be much different, Farm Boy. most church people aren’t much different than others these days.

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  18. Farm Boy says:

    For the Glorious Patriarch, she would be “Kate Middleton”


  19. Ame says:

    oh, my, BV! that list is crazy!

    Liked by 2 people

  20. My young braves have (a drop of) redskin blood in their veins from both sides of the family, which was a funny cause we figured that out while watching an old western movie.

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  21. Liz says:

    “My young braves have (a drop of) redskin blood in their veins from both sides of the family, which was a funny cause we figured that out while watching an old western movie.”

    THAT sounds like an interesting story. Which movie? Please elaborate a little. 🙂


  22. Farm Boy says:

    Probably “Blazing Saddles”

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  23. Ame says:

    Headhunter – that’s interesting. My mom and her two siblings had been told all their lives they have Native American blood, and actually all 3 look like they do … but when my mom did dna analysis, it showed not one tiny bit of NA blood. she had her siblings ck’d and nada. now she doesn’t know how or why that story got passed down.


  24. RichardP says:

    Ame – the scientific community can give you some specific reasons why to not put much stock in the results of these commercial DNA tests. In general, they are extremely misleading.

    Consider the story around Elizabeth Warren – how there was so little genuine native american data in the database that they “supplemented” it with data from other ethnicity groups. How reliable are those results for checking whether someone has Cherokee DNA in them? (A: Not reliable at all.) Given the state of the current commercial DNA database accuracy, I would believe the stories from your mom and her siblings over the results of the DNA test.

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  25. Liz says:

    We found quite a few extended relatives from our DNA test…and a friend of ours found a half sister he didn’t know he had.
    Think they’re accurate enough.

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  26. Ame says:

    OT – for those who helped me figure out what to ask for some time ago to get a detailed, itemized statement from the hospital …

    i’ve probably talked to three or four people in billing at the billing company and then the hospital asking for a detailed, itemized statement. i just got in an “Itemized” statement from the hospital that details … one lump sum.

    so i called my Husband’s ex (whom i have intentionally maintained a great relationship with for the benefit of my Husband and their son – she thinks i’m awesome) who used to work in hospital billing or something like that, and she told me to go up there and talk to the people in records.

    i told her that i feel like they’re hiding something from me, and she said they absolutely are hiding something from me. she said that they charge a package but that most people don’t use everything in the package.

    so … next stop … Aspie Girl and i will visit hospital records … and i will try to refrain from handing them a definition sheet of the words “Itemized” and “Detailed” … and Aspie Girl will be instructed to be respectful when she informs them that, NO, she did not use all the services listed in the package deal. U.G.H.


  27. mgtowhorseman says:

    Jessica Valenti
    Dear men, feminism needs you

    View this collection on


  28. Ame says:

    Richard – interesting. i haven’t done much research about dna testing … but did a quick google search and found this: among several other regarding ‘Native American.’

    – – –

    side note: i find the dna testing to find bio parents very interesting.


  29. earl says:

    Not sure if I posted this (or someone else) before…but this was the article I was thinking of when you start to see more stories about the lies of feminism.

    ‘The Feminist Life Script Has Made Many Women Miserable. Don’t Let It Sucker You’

    Now I still say we need stronger men to crush this false ideology since it was weak men who allowed it to the harpy grandmothers and mothers…but it certainly helps that women are starting to see what it is too.


  30. earl says:

    ‘Jessica Valenti
    Dear men, feminism needs you’

    Dear Jessica….


    No thanks.

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  31. RichardP says:

    From Ame’s link about DNA testing: So, get that DNA test done! To purchase a DNA test from, click here.

    Good advice, right? “git er done”. Neutral encouragement from someone who wants to sell you something, right?


  32. Farm Boy says:

    I was speaking at an event this week when someone asked a question I’ve been asked a hundred times before: How can feminists do a better job of reaching men? It’s a reasonable query, and for years I’ve answered it by pointing out all the ways women can talk to the men in their lives about feminism, and how they can help. But this time, I’d run out of patience.

    I answered that I don’t really care about reaching men anymore. It’s too exhausting, too demeaning. It’s absurd that a woman should have to persuade someone else of her humanity (which is, remember, what feminism is actually about).


  33. Ame says:

    lol Richard … i noticed that at the end … buy the test (i get a commission!)

    The Genealogy Reporter has entered into an affiliate relationship with Ancestry. Clicking on link may result in a commission being paid to The Genealogy Reporter at no additional cost to you.


  34. Ame says:

    oops – i hit ‘reply’ to the wrong comment. oh, well … i think it’s bed time!


  35. RichardP says:

    Liz said: Think they’re accurate enough.

    Accurate enough for what? (rhetorical question).

    Their value depends on what it is that you are trying to do. Good for finding a half-sibling, assuming they are in the database. Not so good for proving that you have Cherokee ancestry.


  36. RichardP says:

    … a woman will keep trying past the point of harming herself.

    I could have cut to the chase here, but decided to present a slice of life first that some of you may be familiar with. Skip down 5 paragraphs or so if you don’t want the slice of life.

    The neighborhood we live in had a generation change-over starting about 35 years ago, and lasting for about 15 years. It is an older, established neighborhood where the guys and gals working for the WWII war machine in the airplane industry around Burbank found modest but sturdy homes in which to settle down and raise families. Then those families grew up and went out into the world and mom and dad grew older, and finally transitioned into living with the kids or living in assisted living facilities. We were part of a group of younger folk who moved in and took over those houses from the older generation. About 20 years ago or so the neighborhood had a substantial population of children, which our daughter became part of.

    Twenty-five years ago or so, one of the young couples opened their home at Christmas for a neighbornood Christmas get together. It was a healthy mix of the younger families who had just moved in and the older couples who had yet to move out. Good conversations with the older folks about what they had found worked and didn’t work in the raising of their families. Lessons learned by the younger folks, and implemented with varying degrees of success. (One of the newer guys, been here for a few years – wife is Australian, good looking, and a killer voice with her accent – is the roadie / personal assistant to the bass player for Guns n Roses. He always has interesting stories from out on the road.)

    The lady across the street from us had two daughters when we moved in. Youngest was probably 12 or t3 and we got to watch her grow up and get married. Really cute girl. Bright. Graduated from UCLA. Then got her masters degree. Then got married and bought a house in the neighborhood and had a daughter and a son. Son is a senior in high school. Daughter is a Junior in college, studying … women’s studies. (rolls eyes)

    Due to scheduling conflicts, wife and I have missed the Christmas party for the last two years, (so I missed the beginning of the story I’m telling here). I was able to make it this year. All the kids are grown and gone, and now we are the older folk, talking to the new younger folk who are beginning to move into the neighborhood.

    The husband of the girl from across the street, the girl we watched grow up and graduate college and get married and raise a family, was there. Their divorce will be final in April of 2019. He claims there was no infidelity on his part. She just decided one day to ask him to leave. Of course, she would get the house, and $3,000 a month in alimony. No child support for older daughter, and child support for a few months for son who is about to turn 18. Of course she has a boyfriend, but he is not living in the house. Well, at least not until the divorce is final in April.

    Oh, wait … Don’t you have a Master’s degree? asked the Judge just recently. And your husband is a 5th-grade school teacher who makes enough to squeak by for one family, but certainly doesn’t have the money to support two families. I’ll grant you $600 per month for the time being, because your son has not graduate yet. But, you have a Master’s degree. Get a job. And, by the way, your husband needs help with his finances. Sell the house and split the profit. Said the Judge – to a very surprised woman, who was expecting to keep the house and get $3,000 for her effort at blowing up the family.

    She could have figured this all out on her own. But I guess she would rather believe in the dream she had created for herself. And she did not stop believing in that dream, kept insisting on that dream, until the Judge told her she wasn’t going to get it.

    … a woman will keep trying past the point of harming herself.

    She has harmed herself big-time. Her life is not going to be at all what she envisioned it would be when she pulled the trigger. The only way to salvage things now is to find some thirsty guy who will wife up her well-past-the-wall self. And it’s too late for her to get a do-over with husband.

    I’ve only told part of the story. Y’all can fill in the rest from what you know about every other story like this. Have to sell the house by court order … not in condition to sell … husband works, wife doesn’t … she doesn’t know how to deal with contractors … husband left to manage the fixing up of the house that has been home to his family for the past 25 years – just so he can sell it .. cause wife has dreams and stuff.

    Came the time that daughter left for college and son would be graduating high school in a few years. Mothering duty less demanding, less requirement for mom to stay tied to the house. “Do you suppose you might put your Graduate degree to use and find a job and help us out a bit financially? asked husband, who thought he was making a reasonable request. As far as he can tell, that question is what started the process that culminated in her pulling the trigger. How dare he ask her to contribute in that way? He must not really love her the way she deserves to be loved.

    At least he still has a close relationship with his daughter. He has an on-going texting relationship with son, who does not want a physically close relationship with dad because he is still living with mom. Dad is hopefull that this will change when son gets to college. But at least son doesn’t have to wonder where dad went – because of the texting relationship.

    My mind immediately went to the recent conversation at Ash’s place about no-fault divorce. This seems like a candidate for the court requiring the wife to stay put and behave as she cannot prove any fault in the husband. But then, I’m sure I don’t know the whole story. But I have known both of them for 25 years, so I’m pretty sure the husband is correct when he says there really is no justification for blowing up the family other than she thought she could continue on with life she had – but would be free from having to answer to her husband about maybe helping out with the family finances.

    Bad choice on her part, it seems.

    … a woman will keep trying past the point of harming herself. Seems like she has done just that.

    Merry Christmas everyone.

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  37. Farm Boy says:

    Well, to be honest, it seems like she wasn’t really trying


  38. Farm Boy says:

    Daughter is a Junior in college, studying … women’s studies

    I wonder if there was Mom’s influence with that

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  39. Farm Boy says:

    Liberals seem most superficial

    Don’t you love it when you see the hypocritical slogans of the left such as “Love Trumps Hate”? Imagine being an 11-year-old boy with the last name of Trump and having to deal with this hypocrisy:

    The daily torment of an 11-year-old boy at Delaware’s Talley Middle School has gotten so bad the child’s parents changed his last name to thwart his bullies.


  40. Farm Boy says:

    Describing the robot as a “hero” and a “legend,” UC Berkeley students expressed their grief on Facebook as news of a fallen KiwiBot reached the campus community.

    About 2 p.m. Friday, a KiwiBot — one of the more than 100 robots that deliver food throughout the campus and city — caught fire outside the Martin Luther King Jr. Student Union.

    “so a delivery robot caught fire on berkeley’s campus and students set up a candlelight vigil for it”
    — James Wenzel 🦊 (@ratherbright) December 15, 2018


  41. Farm Boy says:

    Today’s universities

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  42. Farm Boy says:

    Jessica Valenti, at the moment she realized that the fellas just don’t look at her anymore

    “To my great shame, the thought of not being worth men’s notice bothers me, even though I’m a seasoned feminist and I know better“

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  43. SFC Ton says:

    What I find interesting about RP’s post is he has lived in the same house and hood for so long. That’s allfuckingright right there

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  44. SFC Ton says:

    Farm Boy says:
    17 December, 2018 at 2:01 am
    For Ton, I am not sure what she would be
    Not sure myself. Reckon I don’t care enough to form any sort of opinion

    Wasn’t one dna testing outfit making everyone 2% black to fight racism or some such?

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  45. earl says:

    ‘Daughter is a Junior in college, studying … women’s studies’

    So she’s in the express lane to spinsterville.


  46. earl says:

    “To my great shame, the thought of not being worth men’s notice bothers me, even though I’m a seasoned feminist and I know better“

    Ah the sound of cracks in the feminist’s life when she realizes how nature works.

    I can use this clip as a retort for any feminist nonsense.


  47. SFC Ton says:

    From the time I was 11 or 12 years old – when I began taking the train to school – I’ve been on the receiving end of some of the worst things men say to girls and young women. There was the man in a business suit who told me to “take care of those titties for me”; the man who – when I was in seventh grade – masturbated in front of me on the subway platform near my home; the man who walked by me in the street, leaned in close, and whispered “I want to lick you” so close to my ear that I could feel his hot breath.

    I read that and think two things

    #1) she’s a fucking lair

    #2) she had shitty fucking parents for living in some urban shit hole where that sort of thing is near on your day to day.

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  48. earl says:

    Jessica Valenti would hate me….or love me depending on if she hadn’t been catcalled in years. I don’t know where her feminist/woman matrix is at any given point…anyway…my retorts to her nonsense

    ‘How can feminists do a better job of reaching men? ‘

    Dump the feminism and be the feminine helpmate you were created to be.

    ‘Right now, we are living under the most explicitly misogynist president in modern history, in a country where an accused sexual abuser was just appointed to the Supreme Court. Women are being killed for saying no to men. Ohio has passed a bill that makes abortion a crime if the fetus has a heartbeat. And the wage gap is actually much wider than we originally thought.’

    Sorry that things like the electoral college, false accusations, not wanting to work as much overtime as men and not wanting to kill kids in the womb make you want to go all depressed.

    And it seems like a weekly story in Florida some meth chick gets all stabby cause a man told her no to sex…so I don’t know how many of these women are getting killed for saying no to a man.

    ‘ A new poll shows that only 45 percent of U.S. men are comfortable with the idea of a female president. Are you out there talking to other 55 percent about what the fuck is wrong with them?’

    Gentlemen we have 45 percent of men who are white knights that need their boomer ethics flushed out by red pill.


  49. Liz says:

    “The only way to salvage things now is to find some thirsty guy who will wife up her well-past-the-wall self. And it’s too late for her to get a do-over with husband.”

    I don’t know what her “advanced degree” is in, but the odds of finding gainful employment by putting it to use, with no job skills, at her age, are about as non-existent as her future sugar daddy prospects.

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  50. earl says:

    ‘She just decided one day to ask him to leave.’

    Granted I get the emasculating state would probably still get involved…but why doesn’t a guy just say ‘no’?

    I mean if you payed for the house or if your name is on it…why should her feelz dictate that you leave?


  51. Liz says:

    They say comparison is the thief of joy. I think there’s a lot of truth to that.
    People make judgements based on comparison.
    Few of us turn on the faucet and do a happy dance that we have working plumbing and potable water unlike most of humans throughout history. We compare our lifestyle to those around us, or the way it used to be….if our lot is improving, we tend to be happier. If our lot is getting worse, it doesn’t matter that we still live better than most kings and queens in prior centuries.
    And so it goes for neighborhoods, I think. Can’t be comfortable being the poorest on the block.

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  52. Farm Boy says:

    I don’t know what her “advanced degree” is in, but the odds of finding gainful employment by putting it to use, with no job skills, at her age

    Well, she is a woman, so she has that. Affirmative action is a powerful force.

    My sister talks about my nephew’s job search. He gets interviews, but the jobs always go to a women. I tell her that I am not surprised

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  53. Farm Boy says:

    She has harmed herself big-time. Her life is not going to be at all what she envisioned it would be when she pulled the trigger

    Speaking of women who are poor planners, what is the State of the May?


  54. earl says:

    I wouldn’t be surprised either…we have to keep up the civilization building aspect of having men do nothing and women only in the workforce instead of being a helpmate to a husband and birthing children


  55. Liz says:

    Think she’s too old to latch onto the affirmative action teet, Farmboy.
    But I might be wrong.


  56. Liz says:

    Just to add, thinking of that link a few days ago of the “writer” who’d applied to 200 different companies in the past year, without success. She had an advanced degree, and exceptional academic record, and was in her 20s.


  57. Liz says:

    To address the topic, I’m very very risk adverse, myself.
    Mike is a lot more comfortable with risk. He’s the one who goes deep sea diving, and so forth.
    Although women definitely hurt themselves I think that’s just piss poor value judgment, not some extra predilection toward risk. And security blankets are everywhere, and perverse value judgements are the standard…masculinity in general is vilified, fathers ostracized. So no surprise we get poor results.


  58. Liz says:

    When being a whore was risky, few women were whores.


  59. Farm Boy says:

    The bottom has fallen out of the writing market. Lots of millennials are out there; they are willing to do it for peanuts.


  60. Liz says:

    That’s true about the writing market, but those 200 applications to corporations weren’t exclusively for writing assignments. It seems a tough market out there for folks with no experience….especially older folks without experience.
    But since that’s cyclical it’s hard to say. For example. last assignment I had a friend who was trying to get back into the job market as a nurse after 18 years. She couldn’t find employment anywhere…and her husband was a major political figure in the area with a lot of personal business connections.


  61. Cheque d'Out says:

    The beginning of a male-on-media backbone?


  62. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:

    Saw that live on Sly. She wouldn’t let him finish a sentence, and yet somehow he is the bad guy.

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  63. Vixens oldest (14) is already having her boyfriend sleeping over. In her room. With her. Stupid! The girl has also missed 30 days of school (8th grade) since Sept. And is failing all subjects. What will she be like at 20? :/


  64. Liz says:

    “Vixens oldest (14) is already having her boyfriend sleeping over. In her room.”

    Holy crap!
    This is what I’m talking about above. 😦

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  65. Larry G says:

    “Vixens oldest (14) is already having her boyfriend sleeping over. In her room. With her. Stupid! The girl has also missed 30 days of school (8th grade) since Sept. And is failing all subjects. What will she be like at 20?”

    Hmmmmm…just a wild assed guess now, “What will she be like at 20?” Single and knocked up with another little bastard to add to the public welfare role? Yay team!

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  66. If not two or three by then!

    Hercules was stopped by to drop off the youngest so I mention, “you ok w the boyfriend in the bedroom thing?” He and Bixens current bf agree that s#it don’t fly. Hercules stomps down the hall, into the room, has the boy follow him outside, they have a man to man, the boy comes in to say goodbye and leaves tail tucked.

    Then I reminded Voxen she needs to think about her daughter’s marriage value more. (Too late already is my guess.)

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  67. Farm Boy says:

    Mr. Daniels, 69, is the most innovative university president in America. Like his counterparts at other schools, he believes higher education has been “a competitive advantage” for the U.S.—“a nice little export industry, if you add up all the dollars that come here to purchase the education of students from other places.” He regards the rumbling in Washington about curbing visas for foreign students to be “very shortsighted.” But he also thinks American higher education has grown fat and complacent. He’s making inventive, even radical changes in the way his institution finances itself and imparts an education.

    Mr. Daniels kicks off our conversation with a morality tale: “I’ll speak to an audience of businesspeople and say: Here’s the racket that you should have gone into. You’re selling something, a college diploma, that’s deemed a necessity. And you have total pricing power.” Better than that: “When you raise your prices, you not only don’t lose customers, you may actually attract new ones.”

    For lack of objective measures, “people associate the sticker price with quality: ‘If school A costs more than B, I guess it’s a better school.’ ” A third-party payer, the government, funds it all, so that “the customer—that is, the student and the family—feels insulated against the cost. A perfect formula for complacency.” The parallels with health care, he observes, are “smack on.”

    Mr. Daniels takes a different approach. In 2001-03, he ran the White House budget office for President George W. Bush, who dubbed him “The Blade” for his cost-cutting skills. Mr. Daniels brought his paring knife to Purdue. Examples of his efficiencies include replacing full-time dining-hall employees with student workers, scrapping the vast fleet of university-owned buses in favor of a private contractor, and saving $61 million on capital projects through what the university calls “innovative construction management.”

    His most eye-catching achievement has been to keep costs down for students. By graduation day in 2020, tuition won’t have risen in eight years. “We’re able to say,” he says, “that the total cost in nominal dollars of going to Purdue will be less in 2020 than it was in 2012.”

    Mr. Daniels says widespread adoption of Purdue’s “affordability campaign” would improve higher education. “Everybody is worried,” he says, furrowing his brow. “What are we at? A trillion and a half of student debt, twice as much as the total credit-card debt. It’s a social and economic problem.” He offers up a list of life’s milestones that people delay because of college debt: “marriage, household formation, child raising, homeownership, business-start formation—all of these things are being pressed down by college debt.” The “obvious first step,” Mr. Daniels replies, “is don’t charge so darn much in the first place.”


  68. Larry G says:

    Ah, this really too good to be true…Kentucky “Adulting Conference” to teach high school seniors “life skills” like cooking food, changing a flat tire…

    so what did they spend 12 years in school learning?


  69. Farm Boy says:

    Hey @TSA The fact I HAVE to remove my sweater (which was only covering a tank top), but the woman in front of me was NOT required to remove any part of her full burka or head wrap (which covered her entire head & face) is absolute bullshit. How are we all ok with this? #fact
    — Daisy Fuentes Marx (@DaisyFuentes) December 10, 2018

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  70. Farm Boy says:

    The nonviolent version of the French carbon-tax revolt is spreading globally, too. Last November, Washington state voters rejected a very well-funded effort to pass the first ballot-approved carbon tax ever. The province of Ontario is suing the Canadian government to block a federal carbon tax there. According The Wall Street Journal, “the issue could topple the Alberta government and perhaps Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.” The Journal adds, “German Chancellor Angela Merkel’s Energiewende—a transition to renewables that has increased dirty coal emissions and caused household energy costs to soar—has become a political liability.”

    The resistance comes from middle- to low-income workers. They’re especially sensitive to changes in the cost and availability of energy for the simple reason that it affects so many aspects of their lives—from getting to work, especially for those who live in rural areas, to the price of most consumer goods. It’s clear that many ordinary people aren’t willing to pay higher costs just to fulfill the grand visions of central planners


  71. Larry G says:

    19 year old slut had two kids from two different baby daddies, gets 40 in prison…

    Judge gives mom 40 years after 2 kids die in car


  72. Farm Boy says:

    The common target of all these populist pushbacks is an administrative and cultural elite that shares a set of transnational and globalist values and harbors mostly contempt for the majority of their own Neanderthal citizens who are deemed hopelessly unwoken to environmental, racial, gender, and cultural inevitabilities.

    Why yes, they do hate you. Keep this in mind


  73. Liz says:

    “Then I reminded Voxen she needs to think about her daughter’s marriage value more. (Too late already is my guess.)”

    There was a movie in the late 1960s staring Sidney Pointier, called, “To Sir, With Love”. It was about a teacher in a high school in Britain (he was an engineer but couldn’t find employment so he took on a teaching job while waiting for something better).
    There was a scene in the movie where the girls misbehaved badly (they ignited some female products on his desk). He told them they were all a bunch of sluts and if they ever hoped to marry they would have to change. Sure the boys will like you now, but they’ll never marry you he said. Imagine a speech like that today. So, again, shifting incentives/consequences…shifts the risk/reward ratio.

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  74. Liz says:

    Larry, guess I shouldn’t “like” that because the kids died. But I am glad she was sent to prison.

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  75. I have not seen Vixen in months. My short visit was a quick reminder why.

    Her baby daddy has a great job offer in Montana. Wants her to marry him and move there. Not work. Be a mom. She says she can’t leave everything behind. What about her business? (She cleans houses.) I said, “you like cats?” She said, “you are always my voice of reason.” I said I thought the change would do them all good. Somehow I think she’ll choose to keep struggling. I hope I am wrong.

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  76. Larry G says:

    Liz, yeah I get that….”Like” really doesn’t fit, but I get it..

    The cost of keeping one useless and fucked up female out of society is two innocent souls. Man, I am so glad to have a foreign born wife who is even more conservative than I am.

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  77. Farm Boy says:

    “ Voxen” is Latin for “women who talks much but thinks little”

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  78. Larry G says:

    This has nothing to do with broads, booze or business..

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  79. Cheque d'Out says:

    Might be significant

    ‘No deal’ is the legally determined to be the default if nothing changes.
    i.e. May’s Mother of all shit deals is voted down. And everybody hates that POS deal

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  80. Cheque d'Out says:

    An update

    Sly Noos seems to have worked out that it looks shit for harridans to act like this.

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  81. Liz says:

    That’s the scene, Farmboy! I couldn’t find it before….
    Kind of mixed a couple scenes together in my head but I guess they were separate.
    The marriage talk to the girls is at 2:20 here:

    “No man likes a slut for long. Only the worst type will marry one. And the competition on the outside is rough”

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  82. BuenaVista says:

    A 14 year-old having slumber parties with boys in her mother’s home at 14: At 20, she’ll be 75 pounds overweight, pre-diabetic, have one white baby and one mulatto, be on Medicaid, ADC, Section 8, food stamps, and seeking public assistance to start a “day-care” facility so she can be “more independent.” And she will find a compassionate State which employs other women (never men) who are paid to give her all of those things.

    (My friend the gyn-onc surgeon is the one who had to send a patient to the Omaha Zoo for her scan, since she didn’t fit into machines for humans. She is a “day-care provider.”)

    TL;DR? She’s already forfeited “marriage value.” What intelligent man would marry someone who thinks it’s normal for his future 14 year-old daughter to be fucking boys at 14 amidst her Hello Kitty collection?

    If I recall correctly, “Vixen” is the stripper who moved into Bloom’s house but decided not to help out with chores. Gomer Pyle: “Surprise, surprise, surprise!”

    A recent friend of mine expressed shock the first time I said, “Baby, I don’t do casual. I’m sure I had a one-night stand, once, but I don’t remember when it was. Well, after college.” Said friend was raised Southern Baptist and attended, briefly, an evangelical college. Her Tumblr account is filled with a) nudes of solitary and stricken women looking balefully at the horizon; b) quotes by Indian mystics (she’s a yogi) that imply her superior spiritual state. TBH, she’s definitely not overweight. Her last text to me was “I haven’t had an orgasm in three months!” I’d post a picture of her but The Ton would point an M4 at my head and demand her address, and of course, that’s a good moment in which to remember how to tell the truth.

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  83. BuenaVista says:

    In re: To Sir With Love. Lulu is Scots, of course. Great closing credit tune, IIRC.

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  84. BuenaVista says:

    Why do English men today tolerate short women with bad bodies and bad haircuts shrieking at them? Oh, and bad clothing.

    Aubrey and Hornblower would not have.

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  85. OT: my new favorite Christmas song. How have I never heard this before?!?! Lol

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  86. earl says:

    ‘Vixens oldest (14) is already having her boyfriend sleeping over. In her room. With her. Stupid! The girl has also missed 30 days of school (8th grade) since Sept. And is failing all subjects. What will she be like at 20?’

    I think you’ve mentioned her situation before…but if not I’m going to assume….

    ‘The father is unavailable for comment.’


  87. earl says:

    Saw this over at Bloom’s…another very unsurprising reveal she’s been on mixed up hormones for years.


  88. Cheque d'Out says:

    Sneaky Moggster ups the stakes by linking a second referendum/People’s vote/Losers’ vote with a second Scottish referendum…?

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  89. Cheque d'Out says:

    Speaking of Sco’land, one of the snp MPs


  90. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:

    And you haven’t contacted CPS, why?


  91. Ame says:

    NO, you can NOT walk into home depot and buy a SIDE-only lever for your toilet. Yes, you can buy a universal lever for your toilet. and … YES … they are ALL CRAP!

    will now wait two days for amazon prime to deliver a side lever for my toilet and flush the &*%$! thing by hand.

    and i will NOT make another trip to home depot today to get my money back for the crap universal toilet lever.

    end rant.

    the end.


    okay … still irritated 🙂


  92. RichardP says:

    Farm Boy asked: I wonder if there was Mom’s influence with that

    I’m certain that there was, from what I know of her and her approach to life.

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  93. Cheque d'Out says:

    I once stayed at a beachfront hotel where the flush toilet involved filling a bucket from the tank next to the toilet and throwing it on down the pan as a chaser. Think it was £3 a night. Koh Samui. Good times. It was worth paying the extra for the luxury hut on the beach experience.

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  94. Cheque d'Out says:



  95. RichardP says:

    @Ton said: … he has lived in the same house and hood for so long.

    Two things:

    – We are fairly close to all the government buildings in the middle of the San Fernando Valley. Those buildings, and our neighborhood, are here because they are built on top of basically a large rock. The area in the rest of the Valley is unstable – which folks found out about in the earthquake of 1994, when the ground liquified during the shaking most everywhere except where we and the government buildings are. Then I understood why the geologists put the government buildings here.

    We were scheduled to make an offer on a different house in a different neighborhood. when the earthquake struck. Click on the link below and scroll down to the fourth picture (assuming the pictures stay in the same order as I see them).. You should see a sizeable fire in the middle of the street. That is from a gas main that broke when a fissure opened up from left to right in the picture (broken water main also). To the far right of the picture the ground drops away in a gentle slope overlooking a golf-course beyond there. The house we were going to make an offer on sits at the top of that slope. The fissure running from left to right in that picture went right through the house next door and split it in half, in addition to causing the upper part of the slope to slide down-hill.

    We decided to stay where we were.

    – Our house is a Cape-Cod-style house on an oversized lot. The rest of the neighborhood was built by a single developer, who made every house some variation on the same design. Our house is not like any other house in the neighborhood. We had just moved to town from the D.C. area where Cape Cod style is all over. Seeing the house triggered that “home” feeling in us, and so we bought it.

    The guy we bought it from purchased it when they were tearing down a neighborhood along Ventura Blvd. to make room for apartment buildings. He got it for $10,000 if he would haul it away. Otherwise they would demolish it like they did with the rest. He hired a crew and they cut the house in half with a chainsaw, and moved it onto our lot in the middle of the night. It’s a good house, and we can stand up and walk around in the attic – so we have a lot of storage space that we wouldn’t otherwise have. Didn’t think about the “cutting it in half with a chainsaw” much, until we had some serious electrical problems a few years ago. Then that “cut it in half” thing registered with me. That meant the wiring was severed as well. We have a lot of three-way switches in the house and at some point something failed and we lost electricity to half the house. A friend of the family, who is very bright but lacks social filters so he gets shunned a lot, took his tools and went from outlet to outlet until he had figured out what to do. He did it and the electricity came back to the dark part of the house. I don’t know what he did other than he compensated for how they screwed up when they reconnected the wires after cutting the house in half.

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  96. Ame says:

    Spawny, i can honestly say i’ve never had to do that to flush a toilet!

    i’m not one who likes ‘roughing it’! lol! i’m one who thinks the *idea* of roughing it is nice but does not much care for the reality of it. filling a bucket of water to flush a toilet teeters on the edge of ‘roughing it’ lol!

    when we were dating my Husband said we ought to go camping … i sent him links to tents with portable toilets and portable showers. he thought i was joking! haha! we never went camping 😉

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  97. Ame says:

    whoa on that earthquake and the location of the potential house!

    and how very cool to have that ‘story’ and ‘history’ with your house! it was cut in half with a chainsaw! how cool is that!


  98. RichardP says:

    @Earl said: She just decided one day to ask him to leave.’

    Granted I get the emasculating state would probably still get involved…but why doesn’t a guy just say ‘no’?

    I mean if you payed for the house or if your name is on it…why should her feelz dictate that you leave?

    I used to wonder that as well, and find myself reverting back to that thinking in unguarded moments. But the answer these days, and for some time now, actually is that any wife can get a restraining order, with no questions asked, because she fears for her safety.

    So – maybe better to just leave, without that restraining order. The upside is that there is no legal document that restrains his access to his children, There likely would be if he had forced the issue by not leaving.

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  99. RichardP says:

    @Ame said: how cool is that!


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  100. Cheque d'Out says:

    Time for some festive cheer

    THIS list of ‘Christmas carols for the mentally disturbed’ was published with the backing of a social services department. The publishers have now withdrawn the magazine, Marooned, to remove the offending article.

    1. Schizophrenia
    – Do You Hear What I Hear?

    2. Multiple Personality Disorder
    – We Three Kings Disoriented Are.

    3. Dementia
    – I Think I’ll be Home For Christmas.

    4. Narcissistic
    – Hark The Herald Angels Sing About Me.

    5. Manic
    – Deck The Halls And Walls And House And Lawn And Stores And Office And Town And Cars And And Buses And Trucks And trees And…

    6. Paranoid
    – Santa Clause Is Coming To Town To Get Me.

    7. Borderline Personality Disorder
    – Thoughts of Roasting On An Open Fire.

    8. Personality Disorder
    – You Better Watch Out, I’m Gonna Cry, I’m Gonna Pout, Maybe I’ll Tell You Why.

    9. Attention Deficit Disorder
    – Silent Night, Holy Oooh Look At The Froggy, Can I Have A Chocolate, Why Is France So Far Away.

    10. Obsessive Compulsive Disorder
    – Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, Jingle Bells, …

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  101. Ame says:

    okay … so here’s a really good reason for females to keep a couple pregnancy tests with them at all times.

    on the ‘itemized’ (i use that term very loosely) hospital ER bill for my Aspie Girl (when she had that anaphylactic reaction) … there is a charge of $541.00 for a pregnancy urinalysis test.

    i totally understand their need to ck for pregnancy b/c women lie … and some don’t have a clue … and the hospital and docs are liable.

    but … for the love of all that is evil and manipulative in this world … $541.00!

    so just buy a couple and keep them in your purse in the event you ever need emergency care!

    you’re welcome 🙂


  102. Liz says:

    Anything you get in the ER is way overpriced, Ame. One stool softener pill was 50 dollars when I worked there about eight years ago. Probably 80 now.

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  103. Liz says:

    You might ask why anyone would get a stool softener in the ER.
    Why indeed.

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  104. Ame says:

    intriguing, Liz, that that’s the one you remembered 😉

    i did try to get them to explain it to me … they eventually discounted my portion 20% … i paid it … i think the feeling of being glad we were done with each other was mutual 😉

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  105. Ame says:

    the rest of the bill was one set price. apparently … now they have five levels, and the reason for admittance fits into one of those five levels, which is determined when you go thru admitting triage … and then you’re charged one flat fee for that level.

    shoot … if i’d have known that i would have asked for the list of all that was included in that flat fee and made sure to take advantage of all of it that was possible … needle for iv? i’ll take the needle and the iv (might not use it, but i’ll take it!). is there a meal included? i want it. might not eat it, but i want it. i’m paying for it; i want it. i want every penny’s worth of what you’re charging me!

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  106. Cheque d'Out says:

    Watch it be ignored

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  107. Farm Boy says:

    Be Very Evil

    The psychologist/researcher Dr. Robert Epstein conducted four different studies to see how suppression of negative search results could sway an election — one hypothetical one in Australia, one hypothetical one in the US, one real one in India during the Indian elections, and one real one in the US during the 2016 elections.

    When he looked down a list of the first ten search results for Hillary Clinton, he noticed that all ten were biased in her favor. He said to the camera, approximately, “If I were doing this, I wouldn’t have made all ten of the first results positive for Hillary. I would have been more subtle and included a couple of bad results so it wasn’t so blatant.”

    He found that nearly everyone was influenced in favor of the candidate whose negative search results were suppressed, though not everyone who shifted in opinion towards Hillary Clinton would actually vote for her.

    He estimated that the percentage of the population who could be swayed to actually change votes via this simple procedure — which, I remind you, Google is already running on us — is ten percent.


  108. Farm Boy says:

    Google and Facebook are having a spirited competition to see which can be more evil


  109. BuenaVista says:

    It’s gonna be gun porn tilt-barrel Tuesday. Christmas but once per year.

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  110. BuenaVista says:

    Tilt-barrel: don’t need to rack it.

    I hate my J-frame revolver. The trigger pull must be 12 pounds. It *is* pretty.


  111. earl says:

    ‘Google and Facebook are having a spirited competition to see which can be more evil’

    And in a shocking twist…whomever comes in first in that race, loses.

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  112. BuenaVista says:

    The first one is a .25. Ton kicks my ass on this score. He calls a .25 a “sharp stick.” But as I told my ex-gf, if we are in a conflict situation I just walk forward with an open dumb look on my old face, and she must run the other way. I’ve been walking forward for 15 years, no joy. Every asshole has an ear, and that’s where a .25 goes. The Mossad still uses rimfire .22s, incidentally. I prefer centerfire. Whatever God’s plans are for me, I wish He would get on with it.

    Anyhow, Tilt-Barrell Tuesday! I recommend them! I have a little one now, that The Ton ridicules, but will have a couple more in a week. Great solution for people who don’t have the grip in their off-hand to charge a pistol. I don’t know how to hit the broad side of a barn with a 12 pound trigger, which certainly explains the shooting incompetence of the police.

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  113. Farm Boy says:

    Originally starting in France, yellow vest protests have moved to Canada. Many were held Saturday across the country criticizing the tax and immigration policies of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and his government.


  114. Farm Boy says:

    Feminism is the assertion that men are evil and naturally want to harm women, followed by pleas to men to solve all of women’s problems.

    –Dalrock’s Law of Feminism

    Jessica Valenti writes in Dear Men, Feminism Needs You that she is tired of nagging men to do what she wants them to do.

    Stop waiting for us to explain everything, and start doing the work

    She explains that her desire to nag men is yet one more burden men have placed upon her:


  115. Ame says:

    Every asshole has an ear, and that’s where a .25 goes.



  116. Ame says:

    Whatever God’s plans are for me, I wish He would get on with it.

    years ago i read the book, This Was Your Life!: Preparing to Meet God Face to Face, by Rick Howard. i remember not necessarily agreeing with everything theologically (wonder how i’d think now, hummm), but the concept of us not knowing everything God is doing with and through our lives until we meet God face to face was something that i’ve pondered over the years since.

    lately my drug … errr … book of choice has been ecclesiastes.



  117. Ame says:

    She explains that her desire to nag men is yet one more burden men have placed upon her:

    i can’t even . . .

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  118. SFC Ton says:

    Granted I get the emasculating state would probably still get involved…but why doesn’t a guy just say ‘no’?

    I mean if you payed for the house or if your name is on it…why should her feelz dictate that you leave?


    Because assholes with guns and badges and the legal authority to gun you down for not crawling on your knees correctly will come and enforce her dictates. If they don’t gun you down, which they love to do and get to do with impunity, the whole deal can still land you some time, a destroyed reputation, job loose with no real prospects afterwards, lose of the home anyway etc etc etc

    It’s a very naive and immature question

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  119. SFC Ton says:

    How to use a .25

    More or less, upper cut punch it into their belly, 45 degrees or so.
    Empty that fucker and hope you get a lung
    Run like hell for 90 seconds plus. Other dude probably ain’t got much more then that in him if you get some lung

    You can also do that into the bladder or balls. Armpit and downward if you get the chance, but you won’t unless you can arm bar him or blindside him

    Would recommend a .22 or . 32 over a .25.

    As for the jews using a .22. It’s normally done by a woman or a young guy in drag while the tango is drunk.
    Not a very likely self defense scenario

    You can get a gun Smith to put a little T on your slide, converting into a charging handle. Put a round in the chamber via T handle before you leave the house and you don’t have to worry about clambering around when shit comes up.

    There is always more then one way to skin a cat…. well not really. You just nail the little fuckers head to a tree and yank the fur off them but there are ways to reduce the whole slide actuating deal

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  120. SFC Ton says:

    Been to africa, hatit etc and a bucket to shit in was a luxury. Plumbing of any sort would habe been remarkable so the bucket of water to flush don’t sound so bad.

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  121. Ame says:

    There is always more then one way to skin a cat…. well not really. You just nail the little fuckers head to a tree and yank the fur off them but there are ways to reduce the whole slide actuating deal



  122. Alan Kardec says:

    “… that’s where the .25 goes.”

    I kind of agree with Ton. But it is true that back in the days when it was very common for a gentleman to carry a firearm for “social difficulties” it’s surprising how many seemed to make due with .32s, and .380s. And the .36 and .44 ball of a half century earlier were just barely functional compared to today’s ballistics. I’m guessing anything is better than nothing and having that sense of the appropriate tactics is a really good start. At the least you can inflict deafness!


  123. Liz says:

    Early Christmas present:

    Clock Boy’s father lost yet another lawsuit against those who called out his bullshit. This time he gets to pay court costs and lawyer fees. Life is good.

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  124. SFC Ton says:

    Well there is dying of wounds and dying fast enough the other fucker can’t fuck you up

    12ga hollow point Deer slug? Closest thing to a death ray you’ll ever see as a homeowner
    .22? Pretty good odds you are going to get hurt in the post shooting fisticuffs before blood lose does it’s thing for you.

    That time difference between the two ain’t your friend

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  125. Alan Kardec says:

    Richard P – those pics bring it all back. 2″ cracks in every wall, no water, no power, no gas (thank god!). What a mess. I was lucky, I was in the middle of construction and thus had 1st dibs on a crew. Many others had to wait for years to rebuild. Not looking forward to the next one though I am better prepared, engineered, etc.

    I think Mossad used .22s back in the ’70s because they were quiet and ran less collateral risk in crowded urban environments. I’m guessing it was partly a political thing, European governments probably looked the other way if they bumped off a few hijackers but a random bullet capping a banker or uni professor would have created a lot of trouble.


  126. Alan Kardec says:

    I suspect Mossad also tried to make any shooting a flat out ambush, the best of conditions or abort and try again.


  127. Farm Boy says:

    From Ton’s link

    Ocasio-Cortez — who unseated longtime Queens Rep. Joe Crowley in a stunning primary upset that made national headlines — vowed to not pretend to be something she’s not as she officially starts representing New York’s 14th congressional district on Jan. 3.

    So does she pretend to be smart, with her being really dim. In which case, she is pretending to be something that she is not

    Or is the pretending to be smart stuff really just a joke, in which case she isn’t pretending to be something that she is not.

    Inquiring minds want to know


  128. Cill says:

    “You just nail the little fuckers head to a tree and yank the fur off them.”

    The method works for possums too, except when we want to keep the pelt.

    I do a lot of spotlighting (shooting possums at night). It’s a service to the environment. NZ opossums are way worse than the ones in the US. They wreck the flora and other animals. I go spotlighting several times a week in the forest out back. It’s just a chore.

    The vid here shows spotlighting and 3 other methods to skin the little blighters, and a keen little kiwi girl (note how she dodges away when he sharpens the knife).


  129. Farm Boy says:

    On December 1, an 11-year-old boy dressed in drag danced on stage in a sexual manner at a gay bar in Brooklyn, NY, called 3 Dollar Bill. The child, Desmond Napoles, was dressed as a Gwen Stefani-lookalike — full drag make up, a blonde wig, and crop top included — as he bounced around onstage to No Doubt’s “Like a Girl” and collected dollar bills from male adults viewing the number.


  130. BuenaVista says:

    A few years ago, and this was taped, Mossad sent a dozen men and women into Dubai or one of those fake cities. They penetrated the Iranian arms dealer’s room and plugged him behind the ear with a .22. That’s where you euthanize a hog, incidentally, unless you use a bolt gun to the forehead. So it’s not just the 70’s.


  131. BuenaVista says:

    This is a story about the event. There was an in-room camera, however, that taped his being injected and shot in his bed, so the story is inaccurate.


  132. RichardP says:

    @Alan said: those pics bring it all back. … What a mess.

    Wife’s grandparents lived in Visalia, north of LA, in the San Joaquin Valley. They were in the process of dying, and we were escorting them to the grave. Visits every 2-3 weeks (3.5 hour drive one way) to make certain they had the food and clothes and toiletries they needed. They were in 2 different nursing homes, but they only supplied the bare necessities. (Side note: they had the chance to buy the house across the street from us, but chose not too. This story takes place during the time they expressed regret that they had not bought the house.)

    It was a real treat trying to go north out of the San Fernando Valley with the roads all shut down, including the freeway (bridges either broken or needing to be checked out before cars could be allowed across). Travel time suddenly became an all-day affair.

    But we did have one experience that few have ever had. Coming to LA from Bakersfield, the freeway into LA was closed just past the top of the Grapevine (summit at 4,100 feet) on the LA side. There was a road that would take you out past Palmdale and on to Victorville – where you could come down into LA on the 15, through San Bernadino and Riverside. The police had the freeway blocked and that was the only way traffic could get down into LA. It was after midnight, and the police were in a friendly mood. We explained what we were doing (the grandparents), and they let us proceed down the freeway. They knew we had to get off the freeway in Santa Clarita (Valencia / Magic Mountain) and take back roads from there down into the San Fernando Valley. There was just our one car, and so they figure it was OK to let us through (those backroads could not handle tens of thousands of cars). All the way up the Grapevine out of the San Joaquin Valley and down into Santa Clarita / Valencia, we were the only car on the road. Late at night. Pitch black. Stars shining more brightly than normal because of no car lights. It was lovely, but I hope to never experience that again – cause that would mean there was another similar earthquake, and I’ll pass on that, thank you.

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  133. earl says:

    ‘It’s a very naive and immature question’

    Ton…read everything I type. I pointed out the emascualting state part…mr gun and badges.

    I’m talking about principle. You can still say no to her.


  134. Farm Boy says:

    Schools in Brighton have been ordered to teach children as young as eight that people “of all genders” can have periods, as well as to install sanitary waste disposal units in every toilet room.

    [Know this I did not]


  135. earl says:

    ‘Schools in Brighton have been ordered to teach children as young as eight that people “of all genders” can have periods’

    Do they even teach things like math in school anymore?

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  136. Ame says:

    On December 1, an 11-year-old boy dressed in drag danced on stage in a sexual manner at a gay bar in Brooklyn, NY,

    Farm Boy – that is so tragic. and sick. his parents have got to be sick sick people. they will have to answer for that someday.

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  137. Ame says:

    that is so sick, Earl.

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  138. Fml would CPS consider this typical teenage girl or abuse victim? She’s freely choosing her bad choices, should she be empowered or oppressed? See what I mean? This is in many ways the new normal. Sadly. The boy is not over 18, so while far from ideal I don’t think it’s illegal.


  139. Cheque d'Out says:

    “the bucket of water to flush don’t sound so bad”

    It wasn’t bad at all. I was happy with the hut. It was right on the beach…on the beach…solid breeze-block walls (you knew what they were, they weren’t rendered or painted) and mesh over the windows kept the bugs and lizards out.

    That morning I’d had to chip the ice off the windscreen of my car before heading for the airport, that afternoon I was drinking cold beer on the beach looking at the big Buddha statue on the far side of the bay

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  140. Cheque d'Out says:

    Might be worth mentioning that ‘Mary’ is, you’ll be amazed to learn, another word for a front hole. Happens a lot in Proper English, you may have noticed.

    [Where Mum she would be?]


  141. SFC Ton says:

    Mr Mabhouh probably opened his door to his killers, who pinned him down and suffocated him.

    That’s a lot of work.

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  142. SFC Ton says:

    It’s an even dumber and more immature question since you know the answer


  143. Everyone loves venison says:

    Not seen one of those deer thingies. I imagine that a cut shell would be even more effective. Assuming that putting venison on the plate afterwards wasn’t the reason for the intervention.


  144. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:

    It depends on the age of consent laws in the state. In many anything under 15 is rape, regardless of consent.

    Just because something is a ‘new normal’, doesn’t mean that it is right or even legal.

    And are you seriously saying that she is ‘empowered’ by this? Really?


  145. Cheque d'Out says:

    It would be interesting to know what the daughter thought of Dad laying down the law. Might be a good indicator of whether the girl can change.

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  146. earl says:

    ‘What might the churchian mix schedule look like?’

    Pretty much the same thing.


  147. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:


    You need this for your j-frame

    It will make a huge difference in the trigger pull.


  148. earl says:

    It’s more about the photos of the churchian couples rather than the pastor buying his harpy wife a 200,000 dollar car.

    ‘During a long Facebook Live post, Gray quoted Bible verses from the Book of Ephesians to explain why he spent $200,000 on a Lamborghini for his wife, Aventer. The couple celebrated their eighth wedding anniversary on December 11. You can watch Gray’s talk, explaining his purchase, right here.’

    This poor guy probably grew up in a feminist single mother home.

    [Buy her a minivan he should have]

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  149. Cheque d'Out says:

    Don’t try and tell me that she loves performance cars and driving. She just wanted something very expensive that she could flaunt to the world. I bet she’ll barely use it.

    What a cuck, what a greedy THOT

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  150. Cheque d'Out says:

    Hopefully cucking to the THOT is going to severely dent his career.

    Just who digs deep into their purse when the collection plate for the cucked husband of a Lambo owning THOT comes round?

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  151. Cheque d'Out says:


  152. Cheque d'Out says:

    Choices have consequences

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  153. earl says:

    ‘Choices have consequences’

    Nah they probably thought since they were feminist (assuming they are Swedish)…that they are awesome and immune to consequences.

    Unfortunately you can’t blame men for your poor choices when you are dead.

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  154. earl says:

    ‘What a cuck, what a greedy THOT’

    Weak men are the reason feminism isn’t going away any time soon.

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  155. Cheque d'Out says:

    I don’t do Christmas Cards usually. But I love you guys, so…

    I hope trust that this crushes the rumours that I’m cheap.

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  156. Cheque d'Out says:

    An update
    “MOROCCO HORROR: Female tourists trekking found DECAPITATED”


  157. Cheque d'Out says:

    Sorry about the audio and the audio


  158. Liz says:

    Choices have consequences

    That’s racist!

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  159. Liz says:

    Always fascinating to me how cavalier some (most?) people in the west are about traveling to shit hole countries.

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  160. Liz says:

    Public service consent law anecdote:
    In some states the age of consent is 16…but child pornography is a federal crime so in states where one might legal bone a 16 year old, they cannot legally accept and keep a cell photo from same person. In the civilian world this probably doesn’t come up much, but in the military world there are quite a few cases like that.

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  161. Liz says:

    During a long Facebook Live post, Gray quoted Bible verses from the Book of Ephesians to explain why he spent $200,000 on a Lamborghini for his wife, Aventer. The couple celebrated their eighth wedding anniversary on December 11. You can watch Gray’s talk, explaining his purchase, right here.’

    This type of thing bothers me a lot more than the vagina-worshiping “pastor”.
    Because she is so obviously a pagan freak that no one really takes seriously, but this person has actual influence within the Church.

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  162. BuenaVista says:

    This seems like a reasonable, and semi-objective, comparison of .25ACP (John Moses Browning, people) and a modern .380. (S&W Bodyguard).

    This guy agrees with The Ton: “Carry a 25 if it makes you feel good, but do not ever load it. If you load it you may shoot it. If you shoot it you may hit somebody, and if you hit somebody, and he finds out about it, he may be very angry with you.”
    – Col. Jeff Cooper

    Interesting conclusion at the end of the analysis, however.

    In my case, as a white collar/analyst type, I would never discharge a pocket pistol at seven yards. I would want to be in the phone booth first.

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  163. BuenaVista says:

    Darn. My horse for an edit button. Here is the link:


  164. BuenaVista says:

    Or, here is the link:

    I seem to be in spam drunk tank this morning.

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  165. Cheque d'Out says:

    Have to love the Cooper quote.

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  166. BuenaVista says:

    FB: 10:43 GMT:

    Look at that woman’s smile.

    As a man who enjoys laying out cracked corn for his favorite squirrels every morning beside the frozen lake, let me tell you, that’s how rodents smile.

    Now imagine looking at that over dinner for 60 years.


    Biden, incidentally, has astonishingly high approval figures from Iowa voters, and Iowa remains the first presidential contest and testing environment because it’s peak retail politics, much to the chagrin of my former neighbors.

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  167. BuenaVista says:

    Thanks, FML. I went looking for that trigger kit after your prior rec. None local. Guess I will have to order one. Thanks again.

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  168. Cheque d'Out says:

    Just looking for something to be background sound. I like the guy’s channel. But he’s got some woman on it…her voice, her manner of speaking and her giggly lightweight crap that she spouts just irritate the hell out of me. And she has many times the subscribers that the men have… I was playing with the equaliser to tone her down. WRE


  169. Cheque d'Out says:

    Whereas this woman is quite pleasant to listen to in the background

    (this video is not very interesting (at least not the first 5 minutes), I’m talking about her voice and vocal mannerisms)

    Sexual attraction, or lack thereof, has nothing to do with it. These days the ‘look at me!’ thot voice is an instant turn off. We’re pre-wired to pay attention to children and women’s voices so when that trigger is misused by an attention-THOT to shriek ‘look at me’, I find it very irritating indeed.

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  170. Cheque d'Out says:


  171. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:


    Have you looked at or tried a charging handle for a pistol? I’ve seen a few different types at:

    Don’t have any experience with them, but it might help.


  172. Just so you know, “It’s Ok to be White” is hate speech.

    Spotted earlier today by a reporter for the Eastern Echo, one of the walls in the Free Speech Space reads “it’s okay to be white.” …

    “As soon as we saw that message, we knew it couldn’t stay up,” said Student Government Vice President Ethan Smith. “To whoever did this, I’d just say give it up. Your message is never going to take root here, and the EMU community isn’t even going to give it a chance.” …

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  173. Cheque d'Out says:

    We have left Project Fear. We’re on to Project Brown Rubber Safety Trousers

    Liked by 1 person

  174. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:

    Chris Watts is in prison for the rest of his life for killing his two kids and his wife — but women are reportedly still lining up to be his next love interest.

    The Colorado man is reportedly receiving dozens of love letters while behind bars, and on Tuesday prosecutors released dozens of love letters addressed to Watts, Inside Edition reported.

    And yet women expect men to take all women seriously.


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  175. Liz says:

    That’s an emotional support animal I can appreciate too!
    Almost beautiful even… like….poultry in motion.

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  176. Cheque d'Out says:

    Because men have periods too


  177. @CdO

    Agree that she has a pleasant enough voice and vocal mannerisms. She’s a youngish 5 (meh) physically for a few more years, so she’d better get on the ball getting a beta to put a ring on it.

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  178. Cheque d'Out says:


  179. Cheque d'Out says:


  180. Liz says:


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  181. Ame says:

    oh, Spawny! that should have come with a warning label! lol!

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  182. earl says:

    “I feel this connection to you,” a woman named Hannah wrote to the 33-year-old murderer.

    “I find myself thinking a lot about you,” another woman, Tatiana, wrote with an attached photo of herself in a bikini.’

    These are probably the type of women who would take exciting trips to Morrocco too.

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  183. SFC Ton says:

    Have you looked at or tried a charging handle for a pistol? I’ve seen a few different types at:

    Don’t have any experience with them, but it might help.

    Good luck…… Been pushing that to BV for 2 years or so.

    No 1st hand experience but one of my guys did it for his mom onxe her RA got bad. Basically chambers a round via a coffee table now.

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  184. BuenaVista says:

    My favorite airline, SWA, allowed a miniature horse on-board this week as a “service animal.”

    Well, cross them — and the horses they rode in on — off the list. (Admittedly, not nearly as witty as Liz “Poultry in motion”, which wins the internet today.) (Furreners: we have a saying that, complete, is “Fuck you and the horse you rode in on.” Lately it’s just condensed to ” … and the horse you rode in on” because it’s not nice to use middle English swear words.)

    What really annoys me about the horse, aside from the humiliation of sitting next to a horse, after paying money (I can do that in a barn and get paid money), is the fucking FAA doesn’t see egregious risk to passengers from an untethered 300 lb object. I guess I will buy a 200 lb sand tube and drop it at my feet and declare it my “service object, so I can do squats mid-flight.”

    For some reason, “Gran Torino” is becoming as important as the Nicene Creed.

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  185. BuenaVista says:

    I’m so mature that I remember programming a chip with on/off electrical inputs.

    HOWEVER, today I cured my new truck of its insipid DING DING DING when I don’t wear my seatbelt when driving to the coffee shop at 20 mph at 6 a.m. by reprogramming some $1.00 eprom by … on/off methodology. Didn’t have to clip a single wire.

    What I think is funny is that some geriatric engineer made sure there was that back door to logic, common sense and happiness. I pity my children. In five years we’ll be spending buckets of money for a mundane tool called a pickup truck that will alert the Panopticon when you remove the seat belt so your GF can do her warm-up thing while you drive home after a wonderful night out.

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  186. BuenaVista says:

    Ton told me to do that for a friend two years ago. He’d put his hand into an augur, so all he had left was a claw.

    God is mysterious, and oddly, it now takes me five minutes to button a Brooks Bros. right hand cuff now. Don’t ask me about french cuffs.

    Many conclusions to draw from this fact. The more charming one is The Ton works for God.

    I’m still not buying a Glock, though.

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  187. BuenaVista says:

    The government gave me a Glock once (19) and I was like, okay. Pew-pew-pew. My instructor said, We’re done here. So I understand why it’s a popular weapon with police, though my local PD had an unfortunate experience when one of the “peace officers” forgot to clear the chamber before cleaning. (You can’t break it open without pulling the trigger.) There was another cop in the room.


  188. BuenaVista says:

    I’m not saying I’ve never had a negligent discharge, incidentally. Since we’re being self-indulgent. I was hauling corn last year at harvest (Drink!) and had my new CZ 75B which is a DA/SA pistol, preferred by amateurs like me, and the second-most copied (no one bests John Moses Browning duh). Unbelievable ergonomics. So I was sitting in my 27 year-old Volvo breadbox with a pistol with no decocker. Eating a sandwich, listening to the radio, waiting for the combine. Oops. I’m sure I’m the only guy here who will admit to a negligent discharge, and certainly I’m the only one who shot his own Volvo.

    Know how good Volvos are? It bounced, and didn’t even penetrate the firewall. (My first thought was, Fuck, what did I just destroy, and how am I going to explain this to Christensen?)

    Well, when you shoot your own car and it shrugs, that’s a note from God: Keep the car.

    I sold the pistol to my lawyer. The car is getting a new block heater this week.

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  189. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:


    If it is a “B” model, it should have a firing pin block. Was the trigger pulled?


  190. Ame says:


    and BV’s the one who really made me laugh today!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂


  191. Horse-shit move by SWA.

    But, ever sleep on a horse-hair mattress? It’s like heaven on earth I tells ya.

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  192. Larry G says:

    BV, mine is the cz rami bd model 2075 with the decocker which is fatastic. Did some range time this afternoon and ran 100 rounds of gold dot through it.

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  193. Old girlfriend (read fuckbuddy) had a ’90 Volvo sedan. I hated how that thing drove, but I was driving a manual F-150 4×4 at the time, so I basically thought everything drove like it had a giant pussy-hat on the roof.

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  194. Liz says:

    [blab] Short story: I’m taking up trail running.
    Longer version, the other day Mike and I were hiking (our boys picked a different trail, that was more like mountain climbing). Someone….I’ll just call her “trail running bitch, TRB for short) ran past us, with a rottweiler. She was wearing a jacket, with some specialized sort of running boot, and volleyball shorts. Her ass…might’ve been better than mine. Maybe. That doesn’t happen much. Now, this trail was rough…there were pockets of ice, rocks, it was very uneven terrain. I noted that TRB was “likely to turn an ankle and end up with an injury” and Mike said, “Yeah, looks like she doesn’t do this much…”
    So, damnit, it’s on. Trail running is going to be my new hobby. I just have to ease into it slowly. Especially since I can’t even run well at this elevation yet. Just sayin’ in advance, if I’m out for a while, it’s probably due to some sports injury….

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  195. earl says:

    Mike said, “Yeah, looks like she doesn’t do this much…”

    We should all be like Mike.

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  196. BuenaVista says:

    FML, I had charged it and was releasing the hammer from cocked. I wanted condition 2 (Others: hammer depressed, round in chamber.) Requires partial trigger pull to gently depress the hammer. I’d already done it 100 times. Anyway it was negligent. Dumbass move.

    This is a quick summary of the two CZ 75’s, one with a 1911-style safety and one with a (Beretta 92-style) decocker. I had the former.

    I still think it’s hilarious that I picked a fragged hollowpoint off the floor of the car. I’m not sure WeatherTech wants that as a testimonial, but I suspect my floor mats are going to last a long, long time.

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  197. SFC Ton says:

    For the bitch who thinks she has a great ass

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  198. SFC Ton says:

    Negligent discharge is why I was cut the 1st time I tried my hand at being extra special.

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  199. BuenaVista says:

    Liz, I bought some Merrill high tops on sale a couple of weeks ago. They’re orange, but they are super in the lightweight+support department (I broke one ankle four times, and ruptured two of the three ligaments in same). I’m really impressed with how supportive they are. I assume this is a common shoe design now, across brands. I should think having a little extra ankle support wouldn’t be bad if you’re out running alone on uneven trails. I don’t notice the additional weight over traditional running shoes. You probably already know all this stuff.

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  200. Farm Boy says:

    I also highly recommend Merrill shoes.

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  201. Liz says:

    Hey, thanks Ton and BV! I have some items for my Christmas list.


  202. Ame says:

    BV and Farm Boy – you’re the 2nd and 3rd to recommend Merrill shoes lately – forgot who the first was, just remember it was a recommendation for Merrill shoes. might look into them for Oldest who busted her ankle multiple times back-to-back in middle school.

    Ton – that PowerLung looks awesome … breathing is one thing they want me to improve on but i forget.


  203. BV you are confusing Vixen w Dancer, not that it really matters. Vixen is my former neighbor, ex of Hercules. Looks (less each year) like a young Demi Moore.

    The 14 year old looks 21 and is about 5’8” already. Not as good looking as either of her parents but she may grow into that yet and she’s better looking than average still, if not exceptionally so. And not so bright, certainly not as brite as she thinks.

    Your prediction of her future would be accurate in many parts of the country but I don’t see that here. Chances are more likely she’ll get knocked up by some hormonal white boy who is thinking with the little head and who will then likely marry her and that will not last and then she will live off the state and child support. That would be my bet but time will tell.

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  204. Dancers offspring will be the one with the outcome you describe, more likely. I could completely see that. Sadly.


  205. FML, I see. And I get what you are saying but trust me it’s not so in this case. If I called CPS the boy may be charged w statutory rape but the girl would not change her behavior one bit so I don’t see how my destroying his life trying to save an honor she is actively trying to destroy (of her own free will) fixes anything. I don’t think for one second she’s a victim or being taken advantage of. If anything it’s the boy who needs protecting!

    And no, I am not saying she’s empowereed, I meant society today seems to call that empowered. I would be the last to say that’s empowered.

    It’s been awhile since I was 14 but even back then there were plenty of sexually active 14 year old girls. Isn’t 24 the average age for virginity loss in the US? It was, I have not checked lately. Way too young but sadly not uncommon. If that’s the average that means for over half, it’s younger. Think about that. Sad.

    Vixen Jr. is playing the game her mom taught her by example so I really should not have been surprised. It’s the logical outcome, actually.


  206. Re chequed out and the brown rubber trouser article, hopefully the common U.K. dweller will recall similar “scare” predictions for the US economy were Trump to win. None of it came to pass, quite to opposite.

    That article is a good example of projection though. The U.K. will be fine wo the EU, but the opposite may not be the case. But that’s not the job May washired to worry about, was it? UK first should be her rally cry. But of course that would probably not be very “politically correct” or something…

    In any case, patriots and deplorables everywhere are pulling for you! Keep calm and carry on.

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  207. SFC Ton says:

    19 December, 2018 at 4:58 am
    I also highly recommend Merrill shoes.


    I am sure they are fine shoes but shouldn’t she be bare foot, pregnant and in the kitchen?

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  208. SFC Ton says:

    The power lung helped extend botgbtge quantity and quality of my life.

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  209. “When he looked down a list of the first ten search results for Hillary Clinton, he noticed that all ten were biased in her favor. He said to the camera, approximately, “If I were doing this, I wouldn’t have made all ten of the first results positive for Hillary. I would have been more subtle and included a couple of bad results so it wasn’t so blatant.”

    He found that nearly everyone was influenced in favor of the candidate whose negative search results were suppressed, though not everyone who shifted in opinion towards Hillary Clinton would actually vote for her.”

    And she still lost! Lol. Sorry, just had to point out the obvious…

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  210. Farm Boy says:

    It was obvious to many that Hillary was evil.

    It is not as obvious to everyone that Google is evil, but they are

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  211. Liz says:

    “The power lung helped extend botgbtge quantity and quality of my life.”

    We had something similar for post-op patients, but I’d completely forgotten about it.
    I think this could really help me! I’m okay on the day to day (hiking), but running just hasn’t come back… I feel like I’m hyperventilating when I get anywhere near the speed I used to go.
    Thanks so much again.


  212. During my first visit to Colorado I didn’t notice the elevation thing at all. During my second visit, which was about a month after having walking pneumonia, I *really* noticed it. I am sure you will adapt but it takes time.

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  213. @fml so you think I should report the boy for rape? Seriously? Or maybe I don’t get what you are saying…

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  214. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:

    @RPG: report what you know. No more, no less.

    I am still shocked that you can even consider a 14 year old girl sleeping with a boy, as being “empowered”.


  215. Again I don’t think it’s empowered at all, SOCIETY does.

    I know he was in her room. I did not ask or see if there was piv.

    Please explain your reasoning about the CPS thing Bc I guess I am not following you… for what reason and with what desired outcome?


  216. Re empowered I meant that most of SOCIETY condones “go girl” sex as such. Not that *I* support it or think it’s good. So what I am saying is my view of the situation is likely not the prevailing view. I’d probably get shamed for “judging” before she would get shamed for slutting.


  217. Farm Boy says:

    Judging sometimes has its virtues

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  218. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:

    Allowing a ‘boyfriend’ to sleep in the same room as a 14 year old girl is contributing to the delinquency of a minor, as well as putting both of them in a position for one or both of them to commit statuatory rape.

    This really isn’t hard to figure out.

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  219. Liz says:

    I have no experience on this, so a couple of questions:
    What would happen if she called CPS?
    Would Bloom become a target of this person?
    Would it actually help the 14 year old in some way?


  220. BuenaVista says:

    Disagree with FML, strongly. CPS will throw the book at the boy and protect the girl as a “victim”. And they’re in the same bed because an adult approved, directed it. The boy’s life will be ruined; he’ll be on a sex offender registry and people, you can’t get a rented room once that happens. Someone should kick the adult’s ass. Sorry I mixed up the two flakey females, Bloom.

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  221. Farm Boy says:

    Remember, only males can be guilty of sex offenses

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  222. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:

    So just sit back, do nothing, and then complain as society continues to crumble around you.


  223. BuenaVista says:

    1. I bought two pairs of Merrills, on sale, on their web site. No prior history with them.

    I’m so mature that my ex-, who was all american (mile, 10,000), ran with Jan Merrill when they were just getting started. Then ex- went to Nike as their first woman manager and we lived with Joanie Benoit. At the time Merrill was just a sleepy family business; I think Jan was/is the daughter of one of the founders, R. Merrill.

    2. The same week I bought the shoes I bought a couple of Dell chromebooks.

    3. Dell fucked up the order and I was in Bangalore hell trying to get my order fixed — for two hours. They only shipped one machine and did not include the MS Office voucher I also purchased. But they kindly charged me for everything. This is straight felony theft. I kept asking for American customer service, and they kept switching me to someone else i could neither understand nor convince to fix my problems. I won’t ever send a dollar to Dell, again.

    4. So, royally twisted, I called Merrill customer service, basically to yell at someone about Where the fuck are my shoes? Yes, I’m ashamed.

    I immediately connected with a very intelligent American woman who immediately looked up my order, told me where it was in the supply chain, and that I should expect UPS delivery in two days. Took all of two minutes. I actually said to a call center CSR, “Thank you very much for your time.” They’re a sub of Wolverine now. I’m buying some construction boots to wear in the gym, for stability purposes, and they’ll be Wolverines.

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  224. Liz says:

    “So just sit back, do nothing, and then complain as society continues to crumble around you.”

    I think before one makes a decision to “do something” there has to be some critical analysis of the outcome that will be achieved. Just “doing something” for the sake of doing something can lead to a lot of problems. See Iraq.

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  225. BuenaVista says:

    Amish still practice bundling: teens sleep in the same bed as part of their courting. There used to be a board running between them. I’m sure that’s criminal in most states now.

    A girlfriend of mine in high school was given rooms in her parents’ house with a separate entrance. We were respectful of each other, perhaps because sex was then still associated with taking significant responsibility for any outcome. But, really, 2 a.m. in a private apartment at 2 a.m. when two people are 16 or 17? (Man, that girl Mary had a figure.)

    I think adults created that situation. Her father was a Lutheran minister, incidentally. I see the Vixen situation as similar to that of UMC parents who encourage their children to stay home and blaze and drink. We had major issues with the parents of a friend of Son #1. He was over there every weekend getting wasted, for a while.

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  226. Larry G says:

    Sarcasm switch full ON/

    Yes sir, I sure do love the liberal progressive western society values like the US of fuckin’ A! Soooo much better than those backward conservative “shithole” countries that demand modesty and chastity from their women..

    switch OFF/


  227. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:

    So you are suggesting paralysis by analysis.

    If ‘Hercules’ was allowing this, how many would be calling for him to lose custody permanently?

    What is happening is wrong. ‘Vixen’ is contributing to the delinquency of a 14 year old girl, and should be reported. What the final ‘outcome’ will be, depends on how things are handled by the people involved.

    Doing nothing, just enables poor behavior now, and will be the basis for even worse behavior later.


  228. BuenaVista says:

    FML, boys have been prosecuted for having their GF’s nude selfies on their phones. Girl takes picture of her boobs, sends to BF so he can rub one out, cops arrest and destroy BF.

    The person who needs to get her shit together here is the mother, but as Bloom notes, that would make her “judgy” in the femmesphere.

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  229. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:

    @BV: and the problem with that is?

    or are you in favor of just letting women slide, because vagina?


  230. BuenaVista says:

    FML, I said the mother should be held responsible, not that she should slide. (And that’s probably a pretty big slide at this point.) I said the boy shouldn’t be held more responsible than the girl.

    Then I relayed an analogous situation where we asked a couple to wind down the pot parties our son attended, under the pretext that “they’re going to do it anyway, so should do it at home where it’s safe.”


  231. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:

    I was referring to the ‘judgy’ comment.


  232. Ame says:

    SFC Ton
    6h ago
    The power lung helped extend botgbtge quantity and quality of my life.

    wow! then it’s our new fav thing!

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  233. Cheque d'Out says:

    Oh! Both the. Took me a while to get that one.


  234. Ame says:

    Hercules was stopped by to drop off the youngest so I mention, “you ok w the boyfriend in the bedroom thing?” He and Bixens current bf agree that s#it don’t fly. Hercules stomps down the hall, into the room, has the boy follow him outside, they have a man to man, the boy comes in to say goodbye and leaves tail tucked.

    this was the way to handle it … not calling CPS. getting CPS involved is bad – a very last resort, imo. they have no rules and no boundaries and can really screw up lives faster than a heartbeat.

    the dude probably has no clue of consent laws, and she probably forced the whole situation to begin with. taking dude aside, giving him the info – consent laws, what society is doing to guys like him in this culture – that’s the way to handle it.

    know a young man who got involved with a girl like that in high school – she was super aggressive and, imo, she raped him. his parents had lots of looong talks with him covering some harsh topics. if someone had called cps on him, his life would have been totally screwed up all b/c he went out with the wrong girl and didn’t know it till too late.

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  235. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:


    All that did was to discuss the issue with that particular boy. It does nothing to address any other boys in the future. More importantly it fails to address the real problem, being “Vixen” and her enabling of inappropriate behavior.

    As for ‘Bixens current bf’, agreeing means nothing since he failed to stop it to begin with. Unless I am reading it incorrectly, the bf was there during this debacle.

    The only other option is for “Hercules” to go to court and file for sole custody of the girl, based on “Vixen’s” allowing this to have happened.


  236. Ame says:

    It does nothing to address any other boys in the future.

    the problem of Vixen allowing her daughter to screw boys at 14 years old is one issue.

    calling cps on THIS ONE boy and ruining his life is another issue.

    addressing all the other boys in the future is yet another issue.

    ruining one boy’s life b/c this girl and her mother are so messed up in the head that ruining one boy’s life will do absolutely nothing to help anyone on any level, is wrong.

    parents have messed this poor kid up, but 14 year old girls can do really bad things of their own free will, too. there’s certainly enough blame to go around.

    ruining one boy’s life is not a solution for any of the above. having a frank discussion with boy and telling him how close he is to the edge of screwing up his life … giving him some guidelines to help him – that’s beneficial. however, if he then continues to choose to be stupid, then it’s on him for whatever ills he lands himself with in the future.


  237. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:

    no one said anything about calling CPS on the boy. You call CPS on whoever is responsible for the minor.

    this is about the MOTHER, not the boy…


  238. Ame says:

    yes, it is absolutely about the mother.

    my understanding of calling cps is that cps will then investigate everyone involved, guilty or innocent. does cps have any boundaries at all? is their jurisdiction limitless? i’ve not ever heard of them begin contained in any form, but i don’t know everything.

    if cps gets involved, will they rightly focus on the mother, who is the issue? or will they follow tangents, such as the boy, and focus on that?

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  239. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:

    Different people in different agencies will handling things,… differently.

    But since we don’t know, I guess it is just better to ignore the whole thing and let whatever happen, happen, because women can’t be held accountable.


  240. Ame says:

    i’m all for holding her accountable. i’m all for holding people accountable. i’m just not confident doing so in a way that has a greater potential to hurt the innocent rather than holding the guilty accountable.

    cps needs a better track record and better accountability/boundaries. and just b/c you fine that one person at cps who does their job well and right doesn’t mean your case won’t get handed off to another who is bad. i just don’t have a lot of trust in govt agencies like cps.

    then there’s the reality … call cps … daughter gets taken out of home and put in foster care. unfortunately, the stats and reality of foster care aren’t great, either … and this girl is already messed up. foster care isn’t going to ‘save’ her. then her mother goes thru the cps process … and that takes how long? and daughter is being shuffled around foster care which is NOT helping her behavior or issues. by the time this all gets settled – if it gets settled, daughter is 18, mom is … where? did they really convict her and send her to prison? or is she still roaming around? now daughter’s mother is even more f’d up, daughter is more f’d up.

    so … the question is … is there anything that can be done that holds mom accountable and helps daughter? will Vixen ever have to face the consequences of her choices? will daughter pull herself out and deal with her reality before passing it down to yet another generation?


  241. SFC Ton says:

    For sure the best way to save society is to crush that 18 year old man……. why once him and a few more young men are sacrificed everything will be set right as rain


  242. earl says:

    ‘is there anything that can be done that holds mom accountable and helps daughter? will Vixen ever have to face the consequences of her choices? will daughter pull herself out and deal with her reality before passing it down to yet another generation?’

    Well there was this thing we used to have back in the day….but now it’s considered evil and oppressive.

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  243. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:

    So I gather you are assuming that her father wouldn’t get custody, why?

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  244. Ame says:

    i think the father should have already stepped in to gain custody of their daughter. the onus for this lies on his shoulders.

    getting the gov’t involved, imo, will be a pandora’s box.

    is it bad? absolutely. should the father already have stepped in and done something? absolutely. but the govt will make it worse.


  245. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:

    You’re right. An 18 year old sleeping with a 14 year old isn’t any sort of problem. No reason to do anything, until the 18 year old starts sleeping with kids under 10 years of age.


  246. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:

    going for custody will get .gov involved, unless it starts with a mutual agreement between the parents without written details as to ‘why’. If the ‘why’ is mentioned in court filings, the judge is more than likely to order a CPS investigation.

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  247. Ame says:

    Earl – you know good and well that patriarchy is not the answer to all of life’s ills, including child abuse. only God can cure the depravity of man.

    i know of many terrible and tragic things that happened in patriarchal homes. i’m not saying i’m against patriarchy; i’m just saying it’s not THE answer, as you should well know.

    i am supportive of the patriarchal structure – the man as the ruler of the wife and kids – b/c it’s biblical.

    but it’s certainly not the answer to abuse prevention. might it curb some? probably. might it rein in some? probably. but the old testament law was written under a patriarchal structure, and how many rules are in that law? why were they needed? because people did bad things and needed the rules – even in patriarchy.


  248. earl says:

    ‘only God can cure the depravity of man. ‘


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  249. Ame says:

    i think the really hard thing about circumstances like Vixen and her daughter is that we are limited in what we can actually do that will actually help the right people and not hurt the wrong people. and that is frustrating as all get out.

    and sometimes … we can’t do anything to help … sometimes even our best ideas and efforts are in vain … or would be if we followed them through.

    so sometimes … people we know are getting hurt … are living in unsavory situations, and we can’t do a bloomin thing about it. that’s reality. and that sucks.

    we can’t save them all.

    but … we can do what we can do. Bloom allowed them to live with her for a long period of time. she filled them with truth and good things. they chose to ignore that. we have to let people do their own thing sometimes. and then we have to let go cause sometimes our good is not enough.

    which is why many give up helping others.

    i helped a woman and her two kids b/c kids needed a place to stay. won’t go into details, but i helped a lot. when it was all said and done, mother went on to make even more terrible choices for her kids anyway and destroyed (literally destroyed) good furniture i had lent her without even so much as an apology or an acknowledgement that she had done so.

    i have given money to people to help them only to have them screw up again anyway.

    we all have done things to help others only to find out it wasn’t enough. it didn’t ‘work.’

    so … do we stop helping? or do we continue to do what we can for those who are brought into our lives for whatever reason – being responsible with our helping, and let it be their responsibility for what they do with our help.

    Bloom did a lot for these people, but it would be unwise for them to have them live in her home ever again. however, hopefully, she planted enough seeds that someday one or both will decide to water one of those seeds.

    i think, sometimes, walking away and letting go is the hardest thing.

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  250. Ame says:

    patriarchy under Patriarchy.

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  251. Ame says:

    there’s a huge difference btw many 14 year old’s – who look like 18 year olds … and ten year old girls. HUGE.

    our middle school is 6th – 8th grade. even the teachers knew enough to protect those 6th graders from certain things … b/c there’s a huge difference between a 6th grade girl and an 8th grade girl.

    just b/c a guy has access to a 14 year old girl does not automatically mean he’s going down to a 10 year old.

    my sister looked 18 at 13 – got her into a whole heck of a lotta trouble, but she certainly did NOT look 10.


  252. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:

    James 4:17 KJV

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  253. Ame says:

    Earl – my ex-in-laws are very much a patriarchy family. he’s a retired pastor. and he f’d up that family more than i can articulate – and he has done it all in the Name of God.

    i placed myself between them and my daughters; i’m my daughters’ “Storm Wall’ from those people – and that’s an accurate label.

    they have done and continue to try to do terrible things to my girls, but i won’t let them get through me to them.

    sadly, my ex MIL’s health is failing (i’ve heard thru the grapevine). we would love to visit her, but we’d have to go thru him and their other son (who still lives with them). those two men are mean, evil men … but they’re patriarchy!

    so … while i do have great respect and choose to believe and honor how God determined the structure to be – man head of woman and kids … i also have a very realistic perspective. this isn’t the only example i know. there are many others.

    “Would you discredit My justice?
    Would you condemn Me to justify yourself?” ~ God, Job 40:8

    i will not discredit God or His justice … not even to justify what i want to be true. just b/c many have abused the patriarchal structure does not make it invalid. it is very much so valid (though, for personal reasons, i do not like the term). i also know that in and of itself it’s not the panacea we want it to sometimes be.

    b/c people fail at this structure that God created does not make the structure wrong … it proves people are fallible and need God. that honestly took me a long time to work thru.

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  254. Ame says:

    you are absolutely right about that, FML. and i was cautioned about that during or around my divorce … to be very careful what behavior of their dad’s i ever brought before authorities … cause once cps/govt is involved, EVERYone gets investigated.

    but if dad goes for it, then he wants daughter enough to fight for her.

    if Bloom calls it in … dad might let daughter live with him, but is she then in any better situation than she is now?


  255. Ame says:

    i respect you, FML. and i respect and admire your service. i also admire and respect your heart and desire to right wrongs and protect people. thank you for your life given in serving and protecting. if all law enforcement officers and representatives and govt employees could be as honest as you, we wouldn’t even be having this discussion.

    i believe Bloom DID do the good she could do, and i believe her part is over. i personally do not believe getting cps involved at this point would be for the good of this girl. i wish it would be. i wish there were something tangible we could do to help her. i think Bloom can pray for these two … that justice would be done and the girl would be okay. i believe God’s Justice WILL be done in His time, but i don’t know how that will look or when it will happen.

    James 4:17 Therefore, to him who knows to do good and does not do it, to him it is sin.

    sometimes the good we do does not change people. we’re still called to do good. sometimes the good we can do isn’t enough. we’re still called to do good. but we’re not told to force our good on people till they acquiesce (yes, i had to look up how to spell acquiesce 😉 ). i think that’s one of the reasons many older people have broken hearts … b/c they know they or someone else did good, tried to help another, and the another chose to ignore it, leading to much devastation.


  256. Ame says:

    and, btw … your ex was an idiot for treating you the way she did/is. i know you loved her, but she didn’t deserve a man like you.


  257. earl says:


    That’s why I dont back down on it. I double down on it.

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  258. mgtowhorseman says:

    My advise to Bloom.

    Not my kin, not my problem.

    No matter what you do there would be blowback on Bloom from somebody for interfering.

    Yes its sad. The poor boy. The wayward girl.

    But does Bloom want to testify in court? Appear at CPS?
    Suffer the wrath of the mother, the boy’s mother, anyone else?

    I only risk me and mine for kin.

    I take no joy in the bad situations of others but others never helped me and mine.

    Its jaded but it works.

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  259. SFC Ton says:

    Not long ago my 18 year old grandfather married my 15 year old grandmother with no one bitching about the age difference. 18 -14 ain’t that big of deal in most places in time and space.

    Yes times have changed but biology has not. You are a very modern thinker which is 180 degrees out of phase from the reality of biology.

    Her value as a woman has already been destroyed. His value as a man has not yet been tapped. I don’t want that potential destroyed because he fell for a honey pot trap.

    Reckon I just don’t lust after the destruction of young men like modern folks do

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  260. RichardP says:

    Sow. Sow. Sow. Minister God’s mercies to the one in front of you.

    Don’t concern yourself with the harvest. That belongs to God.

    Says that somewhere in the Bible. And this:

    No one can say that Jesus is Lord without the help of the Holy Spirit.
    1 Corinthians 12:3

    We don’t get to determine the harvest. That belongs to God. We’re just supposed to sow the seed.

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  261. Farm Boy says:

    Summarizes the situation well

    The best that can be said for the Eurocrats is that their opponents are no more competent. UK Prime Minister David Cameron resigned after a majority of Britons voted to leave the EU in a referendum he had placed on the ballot. Yet he almost certainly would have handled his nation’s exit more skillfully than has Theresa May, who triggered Brexit before her own government was prepared to negotiate. She then called an election with no message other than that she wanted a bigger majority, and ended up losing her small one. She was badly outplayed by EU negotiators at every turn. Now her Brexit package could lose by upwards of three digits in the House of Commons.

    Alternative proposals include calling a second referendum, approving revised legislation that the EU says it will not consider, and “crashing out” of the organization to which London has belonged for four decades without even skeletal agreements for much of anything, including air travel, customs, and criminal justice. Yet as noted earlier, European leaders refused to help craft an agreement that May could sell. She survives as premier simply because there is no obvious alternative; stumbling along seems the best course for everyone.


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