Advice To Dads

Commenter Kentucky Headhunter wrote about raising boys,

My philosophy is basically along these lines.

1. Tell them “how it is”. My parents basically didn’t tell me ANYTHING about ANYTHING (imagine 72 pt font there), apparently just trusting that things would just work out. It did for them didn’t it? I want my boys to be skeptical with becoming cynical. I’m trying to be age appropriate with my messaging.

2. Your family loves you, to everyone else you’re just another son of a bitch. A white, male son of a a bitch. Age appropriate and always with the reassurance sandwich.

3. Almost anything can be a teachable moment, but don’t just give answers, teach problem-solving, or show how the conventional view is misleading/wrong.

MSM: “That caravan of penniless people are fleeing tyranny and death-squads!” Really? Do you think tyrants and death-squads let people just walk away? What was the purpose of the Berlin Wall? How are penniless “women and children” traveling thousands of miles without any food or money? Can you walk from here to California if I just told you to get to stepping?

4. Self-reliance, or being able to be self-reliant is the greatest gift a father can give a son AKA, I’m not going to live forever, learn to do for yourself. If I’m going to fix something or need to get something non-trivial done around the house, get them involved. Oil changes, plumbing, electric. This has the two-fold benefit of enhancing my own (limited) skill-set at the same time. Had my older boy using the chain-saw for the first time today, cleaning up after a mild ice “storm” last week.

So, nothing grandiose. Working in whatever else I can think of as it occurs to me. Frankly, I have no idea what they are going to do to earn a living, so that’s my major concern. College would only be if required. No going to “find themselves” for $900 a credit hour. I am looking for business opportunities that they could possibly take over,so it’s have to be something that met their strengths and interests.

These are all good things to instill.

However the one that is perhaps the most valuable is number 3, teaching them to think for themselves, to see through the BS that they are fed.  Let’s face it, there has always been lots of BS fed to people; even more thes days with the full-court press of leftists.  To be able to filter out the half truths, the “no truths”, the “important stuff left outs” can give your kid a real competitive advantage.

This all used to be termed critical thinking.  Universities made a big fuss about teaching it to their students.  Well, they really don’t do that any more (except for perhaps STEM).  Rather, they do the opposite, teach students to be mindless drones.

It used to be that businesses desired to hire graduates because of their critical thinking skills; and for good reason.  These days, if you want your kids to have such skills, you probably need to instill them yourself.

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168 comments on “Advice To Dads
  1. earl says:

    ‘MSM: “That caravan of penniless people are fleeing tyranny and death-squads!” Really? Do you think tyrants and death-squads let people just walk away? What was the purpose of the Berlin Wall? How are penniless “women and children” traveling thousands of miles without any food or money? Can you walk from here to California if I just told you to get to stepping?’

    Really anything the globalist agenda tries to spin certainly doesn’t make any logical sense if you even have any lukewarm critical thinking skills.

    While I won’t sing all the praises for Twitter…it was certainly quite insightful how you were able to see much more photographic information such as guys in orange vests directing the traffic…and the vehicles that gave out food and bused the invaders.


  2. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:

    #2 is questionable, especially if they get influenced in a bad way by their mother. I was never more than a paycheck to my Ex, and it seems that she has instilled that in to the three kids as well.

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  3. Cheque d'Out says:

    Honestly, you have to follow the link to read the replies. They’re great.

    Liked by 5 people

  4. Cheque d'Out says:

    Seriously, the replies to that peta tweet. Quality stuff. Click on the tweet above.

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  5. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:

    mmmm, so does this mean I shouldn’t tell neighbor-chick that I like eating pussy?

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  6. Farm Boy says:

    . I was never more than a paycheck to my Ex, and it seems that she has instilled that in to the three kids as well.

    So what do your boys think about being a dad?

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  7. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:

    In regards to me, a cash machine. In regards to themselves in the future, I don’t think that they have thought that far.

    And at this point, I don’t care.

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  8. Farm Boy says:

    That PETA thread was funny

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  9. Liz says:

    IT was really funny.
    I’ll bet Horseman has something to say about “feeding a fed horse”…I don’t know much about horses, but I doubt that’s a good idea.
    Night all, wish me luck…I’m going on a wild sluice chase. 😆

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  10. @ FML

    I have been fortunate in my situation as a father. My wife worked nights for the first 10 years of our marriage (by choice, she could have gone to days but didn’t for her own reasons), and my work schedule allowed me to be primary (90%+) care-giver to my oldest for the first 4-5 years of his life. He thinks of me as #1 and I’m the one he comes to for basically everything. It helps that we have very similar interests and temperaments.

    Currently, her schedule is every weekend, 12+ hours a day, so I have my boys “unsupervised” for all sorts of activities that she has no control over. I coach teams, help with homework, plan activities. I get them up every morning, make breakfast, take them school, pick them up a couple times each week. So, while most families might have mom doing 75% of parenting, its been the opposite in my case, with me doing 80+%

    Younger son has been much more exposed to her, umm, influence, but they don’t actually get along all that well when I’m not around so I’m still the dominant force in his life. He’s definitely more like her though in temperament, so generally he’s more of a project than his brother.

    I know I’m “lucky” rather than good in this. My marriage has been a struggle with more downs than ups by my count and really my fears for what would have happened to my sons after a divorce have been all that’s kept me from packing it in more times than I’d like to have to add up.

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  11. Farm Boy says:


    Glad that it is kinda working for you

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  12. Ame says:

    My marriage has been a struggle with more downs than ups by my count and really my fears for what would have happened to my sons after a divorce have been all that’s kept me from packing it in more times than I’d like to have to add up.

    i cannot over emphasize the wisdom in that.

    also … divorce does terrible things to kids. 12 years past divorce, and it’s still bad for my kids; it never gets better. it never goes away. i wish i could instill this truth in people, but they refuse to hear. they think their situation is so bad that the kids will be better off. 99.9% of the time they’re wrong. and in the .1%, the kids still wish mom and dad could live together under the same roof – that whoever needed to make changes would do so in order for that to happen.

    if i could go back in time and change it for both my (current) husband and myself so that our first spouses never left and our first marriages stayed intact.

    if for any reason you are faced with divorce, do everything you can to get primary custody of your kids. know that you no longer are the primary authority in their lives – the courts are. and know that you have no control over what she does and says to them when in her custody.

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  13. Stephanie says:

    LOL… that vegan thread gave me so much happiness 😀

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  14. Ame says:, Spawny! those ARE hilar’!ious!

    love … ‘MooToo’!

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  15. earl says:

    I hate to feed a fed horse on this topic…but that metaphor makes no sense.

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  16. Larry G says:

    “But beyond that….just asking you smart folks at Spawny’s space, do you have any advice/ideas for him as far as job opportunities on the outside? I don’t know how old he is, I’d guess late 20s.”

    Sorry I’m late to the party, I managed to screw up my back royally by stupidly lifting. On the bright side I have an ample supply of narcotic based pills that work really, really good!

    A suggestion for the guy looking for employment opportunities….back in the early 1980s I began a career in municipal potable water treatment plant operations. A fancy way to say drinking water treatment. Since public water treatment and distribution has requirements for state licensed operators to operate and maintain the systems, he might want to look into this field.
    I can assist with information on required educational and licensing if he wants to look into this vocation.

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  17. Cheque d'Out says:

    The vegan thing is still going btw
    As virtue signalling goes it’s quite the debacle


  18. Ame says:

    bright side I have an ample supply of narcotic based pills that work really, really good!

    well … if you’re gonna be down and out, you might as well enjoy the ride! 🙂 … hope you feel better soon 🙂

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  19. Cheque d'Out says:

    Not that I’m interested in royal gossip per se but I get the impression that all is not well chez Sparkles

    Meghan Markle is a ruthless social climbing actress who has landed the role of her life and is determined to milk it for all she can – and that’s why the Palace is beginning to turn on her

    Now, there is a steady flow of negative stories streaming from Palace ‘insiders’ about Meghan’s alleged diva antics.

    She was said to have ‘displeased’ the Queen by demanding an emerald tiara for the wedding.

    There are rumours of a growing rift with the Duchess of Cambridge, who was reported to have burst into tears over Meghan’s hostile behaviour during a bridesmaid dress fitting for her daughter Princess Charlotte.

    Kate was also reported to have complained about Meghan being needlessly unpleasant to a royal member of staff.

    Meghan’s personal assistant Melissa Toubati recently quit after just six months in the job after also being left in tears.

    Royal courtiers are said to be already ‘fed up’ with her domineering and dictatorial attitude that involves daily 5am email demands and even led to her apparently insisting on air fresheners to hide the ‘musty odour’ of St George’s Chapel, Windsor Castle.

    When Palace ‘insiders’ start leaking this amount of damaging mud, you can be certain that much of it is true

    If only someone could have foreseen this coming…shame

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  20. Cheque d'Out says:

    Hopefully you know the meme

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  21. Cheque d'Out says:

    Things what didn’t age well. Exhibit #1

    (not that I believed it at the time either)

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  22. Thought this was interesting: an American expat living in France’s take on recent happenings. Not sure what the rest of the blog is about nor did I delve too deeply into it so not pro or con there, just sharing the single post:

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  23. An American expat living in France’s take on recent happenings. Not sure what the whole blog is about not did I look into it so not pro or con there, just sharing this post:


  24. Test…

    Tried to share a link twice but the comment isn’t showing up. Let’s see if this does. Odd.


  25. Huh not sure if that link is on a no no list or what. Maybe it’s in the naughty cue?


  26. Anywayit was an off topic link about the French thing.




    Put a few spaces in there let’s see if that goes thru


  27. Ok that worked. I don’t know what the whole blog is about so not pro or con there, just sharing the single post as it contained a depth of info I hadn’t seen elsewhere. The pic of a dead wild boar in a yellow vest somebody put atop a also purposely put out of commission photo radar machine in the countryside was pretty good. Creative! (But sad for the boar, naturally.)


  28. Cheque d'Out says:

    All three were in ‘spam’, freed now. No idea why they were caught (unless we’re willing to enter tech-conspiracy theory territory over early stage free speech discouragement)

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  29. Feel free to delete any duplication. I suspected your theory as well. 😉

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  30. Larry G says:

    And oops….

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  31. Farm Boy says:

    An analysis of the sham Ghostbusters narrative

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  32. Farm Boy says:

    Sen. Mazie Hirono (D-HI) said on Tuesday that Democrats have a hard time connecting with voters because of how “smart” Democrats are and because Democrats “know so much.”


  33. Farm Boy says:

    Denmark plans to house the country’s most unwelcome foreigners in a most unwelcoming place: a tiny, hard-to-reach island that now holds the laboratories, stables and crematory of a center for researching contagious animal diseases.

    As if to make the message clearer, one of the two ferries that serve the island is called the Virus.

    “They are unwanted in Denmark, and they will feel that,” the immigration minister, Inger Stojberg, wrote on Facebook.

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  34. Farm Boy says:

    No. Herzog’s complaints focus on his refusal to meet in person with the chair of his department to discuss some student complaints. The chair, Alice Knox-Eaton, declined to tell Gouws the nature of the complaints or who had complained, and she refused to put the matter in writing. Gouws has his back up about this, having already been subjected to closed-door berating on the basis of supposed student allegations that he was never allowed to see.

    What might come to mind at this point is the Brett Kavanaugh-Christine Blasey Ford hearing of late September. What’s in play at tiny Springfield College is a version of the same gotcha game: first unsourced vague allegations, then recriminations if the target of the allegations refuses to submit to the attempted intimidation.

    As far as anyone can tell, Gouws has done nothing wrong in his classes. If one or a few of his students object to something he has said in class, Gouws would be among the vast majority of faculty members in the age of snowflake sensibilities. But it is not even clear that any students raised complaints, let alone that the complaints are of a serious nature.


  35. Cheque d'Out says:


  36. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:

    @KH: i am glad you had so much time with yours. My Ex was a SAHM for most of our marriage, including the 2 years I was basically working/living in another state, trying to earn a decent living for our family. I worked 12-14 hour days, and was on call pretty much all the time. So she had a lot more one-on-one time with all three kids, than I did. And she spent most of her time trying to be their friend, instead of being their parent.

    I could go on and on about how she went out of her way to undermine me with the kids, but it’s too much to do when not drunk.

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  37. Cheque d'Out says:

    As expected the release of the government’s internal legal advice has cost May her Parliamentary majority (needed this guy’s party to deliver it)

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  38. earl says:

    Why did the oppressive patriarchy put a light post in the way?

    [The base of the light looks phallic it does]

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  39. Liz says:

    Thanks a million, Larry. I’ll mention the municipal potable water treatment plant idea too (Mike is the one in touch with him…if he wants more info I will ask for details). He’s accustomed to working with biohazard materials, and he has led teams for certain.
    Since Mike is flying trips I haven’t been able to talk since yesterday (right before I wrote that post), I’ll try to find out more later today.
    Per the GI bill, Mike texted back:
    “He used up most of his GI bill. I’m pretty shocked this happened.”

    I really appreciate the support, all.

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  40. Farm Boy says:

    Fox News host Tucker Carlson said Tuesday night that mass immigration advocates message to Americans is essentially “shut up, you’re dying, we’re gonna replace you.”

    “Nobody seems to pause and ask why can’t young Americans afford to get married and have children, afford to buy homes and cars and their solution, the elite’s solution, is we’ll just bring in new people,” Tucker said. “What about the Americans, the young people, the 30-year-old American who can’t afford to have kids? Does anybody care about that person? Maybe there is a real problem — I never hear that person addressed ever.”

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  41. Liz says:

    “What about the Americans, the young people, the 30-year-old American who can’t afford to have kids? Does anybody care about that person? Maybe there is a real problem — I never hear that person addressed ever.”

    A few years back, when I moderated the political debate forum, we had a poster from Denmark who brought up the fact he got a lecture from the healthcare providers because his girlfriend/wife was pregnant and “he couldn’t afford to have a child”. He was pretty angry to get this lecture, since he was employed full time, while Muslims would come in with eight children and never receive said lecture. Over the years, he had three children (two sons, and a daughter). I watched him go from a virtual communist into a very, very conservative Nationalist. It was interesting, too, to watch the rest of the posters (from the UK, US, Sweden, et al) respond to this.

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  42. Cheque d'Out says:

    So, when the government was found to be guilty of being in contempt of Parliament, which has never happened before in our LONG history of democracy…What expression was on the face of the government’s lawyer, the Attorney General?

    That boatrace is a picture…


  43. Cheque d'Out says:

    Compare and contrast to
    A brilliant film.


  44. Farm Boy says:

    If you want to witness the creeping illiberalism of feminism, look no further than its reaction to Education Secretary Betsy Feminist Rally
    freak and gig spics via
    DeVos’ proposed overhaul of the Obama-era campus sexual harassment policies. Feminists are excoriating DeVos’ proposed reforms as a huge step backward for women’s rights. Glamour’s Abby Gardner called them “alarming.” National Women’s Law Center’s Elizabeth Tang declared that DeVos is “aiding and abetting” serial sexual predators like Larry Nassar and Jerry Sandusky.

    Golly! What is DeVos suggesting that’s so bad?

    She basically wants to give universities space to restore some modicum of due process for those accused of sexual misconduct — be they men or women — something that progressives support in every other context.


  45. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:

    This reminds me of a local pilot who had run the tanks dry on a TB10. He landed in a huge open field, but somehow still managed to hit the only tree in a 40 acre lot…


  46. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:

    I wish that senatoress hirohito would just shut the fuck up.

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  47. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:

    If they are unwanted, why not just deport them?

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  48. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:

    Feminist MassHoles strike again…


  49. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:

    I still don’t understand why all the negotiating nonsense.

    If this is really about the UK regaining it’s sovereignty, just go back to exactly the way things were before joining the EU.

    [More like “unnecessary capitulation” it would be]

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  50. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:

    That’s racist!

    The short part is white, and the long part is black 😜

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  51. Farm Boy says:

    “The ‘Statement of Responsibility’ from the university’s Student Code of Conduct explains that all members of the campus community ‘have the personal responsibility to promote an atmosphere of civility,’ and that discussions ‘should never become mean, nasty or vindictive,’” wrote FIRE’s policy reform program officer, Laura Beltz.

    Of course, this raises the obvious question of who gets to decide what speech is considered “mean, nasty, or vindictive.” If I were to take a guess, based on how speech and other matters are disciplined at other universities, I’d have to say the person who decides is the person most offended, rather than a reasonable person


  52. Cheque d'Out says:

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  53. Cheque d'Out says:

    Well…this is awkward. The place shown closest to me is Lickham Bottom. At least it isn’t that close, but still…

    And his idea of what Europe is comprised of might explain our immigration issues.

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  54. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:

    “A female student made the claim that by humanizing vegetables, the creators of VeggieTales were using the children’s programming to promote racial stereotypes by making the villains racial minorities.”

    How about Dads stop raising kids who think up this nonsense about racist vegetables?

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  55. Cill says:

    Larry 11:54 am & 12:13 pm

    Those are not the DIY of anyone you know, I hope.


  56. Cill says:

    ‘Struth, the one of the woman at 12:10 pm shows the same type of door. Is it the same house?


  57. Let’s see if I do it right this time:

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  58. Yay!

    Click thru and read her letter, good stuff! The replies are heartening as well. The jig is up?


  59. Larry G says:

    “Larry 11:54 am & 12:13 pm
    Those are not the DIY of anyone you know, I hope.”

    LOL!!! Nope, just single independent women trying to equal a man in tasks, thoughts and logic. Total fail


  60. Cill says:

    “… Lickham Bottom. At least it isn’t that close, but still…”

    How long are the tongues in your neck of the woods, me old mate?


  61. Larry G says:

    Sometimes it gets old reading all of the pissing and moaning about western females, I have done my share too, but thankfully these modern rejects are just a small fraction of the world’s women.
    There is nearly absolute agreement that western women are pretty much clueless, worthless, valueless and morally bankrupt, even they themselves boast of their little worth.
    As someone who found a wife outside of western influence, men ought to look for wife quality women outside of CONUS.

    Leave the cunts here alone and let them die off naturally, perhaps fish in another pond.


  62. Cheque d'Out says:

    Holy fuck, the release of the legal advice is out (some of it, NOT ALL, as was legally required) and the analysis has begun. Just the top ten horrors uncovered so far…

    Speccie piece, probably been up already so if you’ve seen it move along.

    Top ten horrors from the Brexit ‘legal advice’

    1. This is not the full legal advice on the May’s deal. It is a very selective piece of advice solely on the Protocol, art. 184 and 5. So no other issues are considered. Parliament asked for the full legal advice on the deal, not just part of the deal. Where is it?

    2. May’s deal envisages the UK being in backstop indefinitely. It is staggering that she sought to conceal this advice from MPs or the public. “The Protocol is intended to subsist even when negotiations have clearly broken down…. despite statements in the Protocol that it is not intended to be permanent, and the clear intention of the parties that it should be replaced by alternative, permanent arrangements, in international law the Protocol would endure indefinitely. It is May’s duty to inform parliament in unambiguous terms. How can she claim to have fulfilled this duty? (Paragraph 16)

    3. The backstop is not an insurance. It is the expected destination. Remember when we were told that the backstop is “just an insurance”, that it was unlikely that we’d need? The legal advice makes clear that the backstop is both likely and in full contemplation of the parties (par 5). So everyone knows we are likely to go in. It is wholly wrong to for the government to pretend otherwise.

    4. May says that promising to negotiate ‘in good faith’ will result in a future deal. The legal advice accepts that this phrase is meaningless. Her deal places the EU under no obligation at all. “All they [the EU] would have to do to show good faith would be to consider the UK’s proposals, even if they ultimately rejected them. This could go on repeatedly without such conduct giving rise to “bad faith” or failure to use best endeavours.”

    5. The UK will never be able to leave the Customs Union without the EU’s agreement. May’s deal “does not provide for a mechanism that is likely to enable the UK lawfully to exit the UK wide customs union without a subsequent agreement.” And as for the time limit? Forget it. “This remains the case even if parties are still negotiating many years later, and even if the parties believe that talks have clearly broken down and there is no prospect of a future relationship agreement. The resolution of such a stalemate would have to be political.”

    6. May’s deal may violate EU law. Under Article 50, the mechanisms that EU member states are allowed to leave, a transition agreement cannot be open-ended because that means it is not temporary. So this dodgy backstop might be illegal under EU law. “There may be, therefore, some doubt as to whether the proposed Protocol is consistent with EU law, and that uncertainly will increase the longer it subsists.”

    7. The EU may have the power to tap the UK for even more money given the expense of the ties that will still bind us. “The legal and administrative arrangements required to underpin the Protocol would be enormously complex, particularly in the light of proposed GB / NI flexibilities and will require considerable resources. These are not something to which the Commission will readily commit in the long term.”

    8. The UK has no proper legal protection so is being asked to ‘trust’ the EU. “Given the lack of any effective means of termination” to the backstop, “the UK may have to trust in seeking a satisfactory outcome from negotiations.”

    9. The ‘arbitration panel’ is useless in practice (par 25 to 28) certainly when it comes to deciding if the UK can ever escape. “ it is extremely difficult to see how a five member arbitral panel made up of lawyers who were independent of the parties would be prepared to make a judgment as political as whether the Protocol is no longer necessary.

    10. There is no legal protection for the UK: a solution to this (if it comes) would have to be political. But if we sign May’s deal, we are in a legally binding treaty – the EU now refuses to bend or change rules for us. It has refused every day of the negotiation. There is no basis to conclude the EU will change once we are controlled by them in the backstop.

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  63. Cheque d'Out says:

    “How long are the tongues in your neck of the woods, me old mate?”

    Don’t know about length but the local tory MP’s is likely brown. To match his nose. Keeping a very low profile (because he says he’ll be voting for May’s betrayal of a deal)


  64. Cheque d'Out says:

    a) what do you reckon of The Long Good Friday? Assuming that you’ve seen it. The nature of the film changes as you go through it.

    b) have you any lawyer relatives who have shared views on the ‘deal’? No details. A bit of effin’ ‘n’ blindin’ will suffice


  65. Cill says:

    Spawny, same as yours. Disgust. There are no redeeming features to the deal. To quote them verbatim would be to utter profanities, and as you know, I don’t do that.

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  66. Cill says:

    As luck would have it, I’ve got to go out. Back in an hour or so.

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  67. Cheque d'Out says:

    I quite liked ze French women that I met but otherwise wouldn’t look beyond the anglosphere for a wife. Not a looks thing (definitely not a looks issue) but I find the gulf between men and women wide enough without adding huge cultural differences to it.

    But at the end of the day I’d just rather not bother at all though, to be honest. I don’t need the drama in my life, don’t need the risk of my partner doing something dumb and dragging me into it, don’t want to have to manage them (the old manosphere saying that you can either love women, or understand them, but not both). Don’t wish to fund them.

    If there’s someone at my back, I want them to have my back rather than be a liability.

    I do not wish to pretend to value the opinions of those whose opinions are not worth hearing (also why I’m not a joiner kind of person – too many morons wanting to be in charge).

    Sorry to be so direct but I’ve just seen further proof, as if I needed it, that my cuntry is being betrayed by bastards. Lead by a woman who is blatantly lying to Parliament and yet is not called out for it despite everyone knowing that she’s lying (see legal opinion above FFS). And part of that ability to still be in charge is the ‘is it cos I is a woman?’ defence.

    Had enough for the evening. Perhaps I shall retire and complete watching RIPD 3d on the telly. A guilty pleasure. The 3d is particularly fine in this film

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  68. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:

    It is pretty disheartening…


  69. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:

    OMFG, just get the fuck out and tell the EU to blow themselves. No agreement to anything, and reclaim your independent sovereignty.

    Or is the UK’s real desire to remain a colony of Belgium?

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  70. Stephanie says:

    “Over the years, he had three children (two sons, and a daughter). I watched him go from a virtual communist into a very, very conservative Nationalist. It was interesting, too, to watch the rest of the posters (from the UK, US, Sweden, et al) respond to this.”

    I’ve watched people who were Atheists and hated Christianity, go from that stance to staunchly promoting Christian morals and encouraging Christians to have more than just 2 children. Think Stefan Molyneux. 🙂

    That’s what seeing the consequences of communism (or foreign invaders) does to you I guess.

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  71. earl says:

    We should just call these…’Deep Thoughts With Occasional-Cortex’

    [Probably insist on a UN flag being planted she would]

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  72. Cheque d'Out says:

    52% of voters said leave. But ‘our’ politicians aren’t listening.


  73. Farm Boy says:

    Politicians know what is best for them. And their friends

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  74. Farm Boy says:

    The union of police and administrative personal Vigi-Ministere [etc.; hereafter, Vigi] rallies to the side of the Yellow Jackets. The union as filed this Tuesday a notice for an unlimited strike to begin Saturday December 8 2018, for personnel in administrative, technical, or scientific areas, office workers and cooks of the police national, the same day of “Act IV” of the Yellow Jackets in Paris.”

    “The demands made by the Yellow Jacket movement, concern us all. It is time to organize legally and be in solidarity with them, for the benefit of all. We are concerned because we are part of the people.”


  75. Farm Boy says:

    This isn’t 1968. This is no ordinary development. Reportedly, 84% of French people in the latest poll support the protests, and their top concerns are the burdensome “climate” regulations, which are undermining every aspect of their economic lives, and the uncontrollable social impacts of mass migration into their country. As Alain said to Rebel media in the video, they’ve simply had enough.

    Notably, their country is seen as a refuge for others. But for the French, there is no refuge from policies that are destroying their way of life — because the EU idea is designed to deny them any such shelter. That is its very purpose.

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  76. Farm Boy says:

    Virginia Middle School Bans Christmas Songs That Mention Jesus

    [Apparently thought this through they did not]


  77. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:

    UK PM’s plan plays out

    Liked by 3 people

  78. Liz says:

    The O.C. says, “If money doesn’t grow on trees why do banks have branches?”

    Liked by 3 people

  79. Liz says:

    Yo! O.C. is so stupid she sold her car for gas money.
    Yo! O.C. is so stupid it took her 60 hours to watch 60 minutes.
    Yo! O.C. is so stupid she thought Dumb and Dumber was a documentary.

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  80. Liz says:

    More serious note: The tech sgt friend is visiting next month, so he and Mike and the boys can go hiking and stuff. It will (hopefully) be a good solace for him.
    Unfortunately, our home is under construction now, a big portion of the insulation was removed to expose the damage and about half the house is very cold and will be until spring.

    Some day this house will rock…the plan is to renovate the master bath and build a couple of bedrooms plus bath in the basement….but right now we all have to share one bathroom until spring when the roofers can come fix the massive problem that is our roof (freshly painted, the bastard who owned it last made sure to paint the inside and outside of our home to cover up all obvious signs of water damage). Until then, we’ll all have to pretend we’re either camping out or at a European hostel (lots of relatives visiting for Christmas…oh boy this will be joyous).

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  81. Liz says:

    Just to add, sorry about the above..
    I don’t want to be a downer.
    Mike mentioned, “Heh, we’ve seen a lot worse”
    Which is an understatement. We’ve seen a lot over the past quarter century. 😆
    Honestly, the travails of our friend kind of puts everything into perspective.
    I really appreciate the input and support from folks in Spawny’s space.

    Liked by 4 people

  82. Farm Boy says:

    Does he have enough GI bill left to start at a Community College? Maybe get a vocation there

    Liked by 1 person

  83. Cheque d'Out says:

    It’s mutual, Liz

    Liked by 1 person

  84. Cheque d'Out says:


  85. Farm Boy says:

    These anointed “Leaders of the Free World” don’t seem to last long in that role

    Liked by 1 person

  86. Liz if it makes you feel any better my house only has one bathroom and for the first five years I actually had to go outside to get to it! No kidding! (Now ithe outdoor hallway it used to be accessed by is enclosed.)

    Also, when it was built the house had four chimneys and as many wood stoves, so it not having any insulation wasn’t an issue. After living in a house no warmer than a tent for ten years (!) I finally added a ductless heat pump system and I no longer can see my breath when in the kitchen in the winter!

    Ah, it’s the little things. Funny part is I love this house so much I gladly put up with all that. I did not feel that about my prior house. Partly in retrospect was my attitude needed adjusting but I also think w love one can endure a LOT! ❤️

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  87. * The wood stoves and three of the chimneys were removed before I lived here.


  88. Ame says:

    I really appreciate the input and support from folks in Spawny’s space.

    ditto 🙂

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  89. mgtowhorseman says:


  90. Farm Boy says:

    Among the new allegations: CBS apparently had an employee “on call” to perform oral sex on Moonves. Investigators also found that he received oral sex from four CBS employees that appeared to be “transactional.”


  91. Stephanie says:

    “Just to add, sorry about the above..
    I don’t want to be a downer.”

    I think you must be mistaken. Everything I read from you comes across as being told to us in good humor 😀 if you can see the hilarity in things, it makes it much better (and I know you do
    !) ❤ ❤ !!!

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  92. Ame says:

    recently heard one woman leaving husband b/c she says now that she never really loved him … that the man she met online has nothing to do with that … and she really does love their kids.

    another woman who has been divorced for awhile said, “My story’s different [from all the others], and my kids are better off.” i know enough of her story to know neither is true.

    we can speak and teach the truth, but we cannot make people believe. it’s not my job or role or responsibility to force people to believe; i’m simply to tell the truth.

    i’ve lived long enough i can see their paths and where they lead. they will (continue to) justify their choices … believe the truth doesn’t apply to them … believe their kids are better off … not take personal responsibility.

    and i have to remember it’s not my monkey; not my circus.

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  93. earl says:

    ‘that the man she met online has nothing to do with that’

    What’s up with these chads going after married women?

    I get some wimminz can be the seducing type…but the sheer amount of stupidity of these guys falling into their trap astounds me.

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  94. BuenaVista says:

    I grew up in a house with one bath. Six humans. The issue wasn’t taking turns, really. It was the size of the water heater. That’s an easy upgrade.

    Liked by 4 people

  95. Ame says:

    she’s not pretty – not ugly, but certainly wouldn’t turn any heads … she has several young children. i have no idea.

    i think she’s really gonna hate her younger self someday if she ever faces her own truth.


  96. Ame says:

    there were six of us with two bathrooms … i’m sure the hot water was an issue, but as the oldest, i always called first shower, so i really have no idea if there was enough hot water to go around (and, honestly, this is the first time i ever even though about it! lol!)

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  97. RichardP says:

    Liz – in California, if the house has a known defect and you don’t disclose it prior to sale, the seller can be sued for fraud. Sounds like you have a good case if Colorado law is similar.

    Liked by 2 people

  98. Cheque d'Out says:

    Hardcore Tory of long standing takes the awkwardness to another level

    Oh noes!


  99. Cheque d'Out says:

    The laba leadershit has long been friends of the ira and other assorted terrorist organisations worldwide. They are no friend of the DUP (largely Northern Ireland Protestants that support the Union with the mainland) at all. So the DUP withdrawing support from May’s government at a time when laba have a distinct possibility of winning the next general election is a major, major thing for them…


  100. Cheque d'Out says:

    Word leaks of Her Madge’s opinion on May and her government cabal


  101. Cheque d'Out says:

    The globalist narrative is just falling apart

    Liked by 2 people

  102. Cheque d'Out says:

    They protesters have just gone dirty

    Liked by 1 person

  103. Farm Boy says:

    Organized by the Maryland nonprofit SAVE Services, the letter was unveiled by attorney Margaret Valois on Capitol Hill last Thursday, and was compiled to shatter the myth that strengthening due process in Title IX investigations will hurt women, especially survivors.

    “The numerous signatures reveal that noted attorneys, legal scholars, other professionals and legislators… recognize and uphold the important concept of due process and recognize that it is lacking in campus disciplinary proceedings,” Valois told PJ Media

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  104. Farm Boy says:

    It is a perfect snapshot of the most important divide in 21st-century Europe: that between a blinkered elite and ordinary people who’ve had as much bossing about, tax rises, paternalism and disdain as they can take. So from his presidential palace in Paris, Macron decrees that the little people of the nation must pay a kind of penance for the eco-crime of driving diesel-fuelled cars, like a modern-day Marie Antoinette deciding with a wave of the hand what is good for the plebs. It’s little wonder that the graffiti left behind following the latest uprising in Paris at the weekend compared Macron to Louis XVI and demanded that he resign.

    Remember how they said he would hold back the populist tsunami and save the EU from the pesky public’s anger? The Economist even published an image of him walking on water, the nutters. Now we know that, far from defeating the populist thirst for change, Macron has inflamed it. His aristocratic attitude, his preference for rubbing shoulders with the likes of Barnier and Merkel over your average French citizen, his pursuit of eco-signalling government policies with not a single thought for the impact they might have on ordinary people, have intensified the populist moment. Macron will go down in history not as the president who switched off public fury but who intensified it.

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  105. Farm Boy says:

    As “leader of the free world” Trump was not their man. Merkel was their woman, but now she is a weakling. Macron and Mother (Eminem) have failed. Who is left? May is out. So Justin, of course

    [Wonder if ate that giant cherry life-saver he did I do]


  106. Farm Boy says:

    But aside from the legal aspects, feminists are not pleased with the idea of consent videos and their “problematic” ramifications.

    In the case with Poppy, King complains that the “implication” of a consent video “is that those in a position of power are the ones who need protection, and that’s just not true.”


  107. Farm Boy says:

    Two-time failed Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton snubbed Melania Trump during George H.W. Bush’s funeral on Wednesday, refusing to shake her hand

    Liked by 1 person

  108. Liz says:

    “Two-time failed Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton snubbed Melania Trump during George H.W. Bush’s funeral on Wednesday, refusing to shake her hand”

    I’m sure this was a relief to Melania.

    Liked by 5 people

  109. Cheque d'Out says:

    Aha! Farm Boy. There’s a draft post by yours truly. Not time critical. Not unless they take the video source down. Up to you when.

    [The next slot has been cleared. You can publish it at any time -FB]

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  110. Cheque d'Out says:

    Myra Hindley, in case you were wondering


  111. BuenaVista says:

    On the paternalism and intrusiveness of “blinkered” Euro nomenklatura inspiring gilets jaunes rioting:

    I was out driving early yesterday in my new truck (Drink!) and radio station hunting. Small town radio is heavily talk/reporting/feature story-ing at 8 a.m. and in quick succession, two stations went on at length with public safety features. Because we’re a caring society. In each, some female public employee from this or that agency that didn’t exist 50 years was helpfully assisting the little people.

    1. A “public communications specialist” from the Dept. of Natural Resources offered some timely tips for ice fishing. Check the ice for weak points. Stop the four wheel ATV every 150 feet and drill a core sample. Remember, a bigger side by side four-wheeler is heavier than a smaller one. Wear a life vest when transiting the ice. Be wary of frostbite.

    2. Another PSA from a really annoying uptalker who answered every question beginning, “So yeah …” or “So right …” So she was the millenial public employee. She was providing helpful tips on how to walk across ice in a parking lot, or to the car in the driveway, or on the sidewalk downtown. “Remember to slow down … Don’t try to carry too much when you are walking more slowly on ice … Remember older people might need a steadying hand or help with their bags … ”

    They’re paid by the government to school us, and their benefits and pensions outstrip anything — anything — available in the private sector. (There’s a reason farmers don’t retire until they’re dead, or can’t walk anymore: they don’t have access to the tax-funded Public Employee Retirement System.)

    This is a place where people still do chores outside (like climbing a bin on an icy vertical metal ladder or feeding cattle) when it’s -20F. Fortunately we have a jobs program for medicrities who remind us that that falling into a winter lake or not wearing mittens can lead to unpleasant outcomes.

    State paternalism is a post-modern, western, global scourge.

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  112. Farm Boy says:

    So is the problem cultural appropriation?

    Bowling Green State University in Ohio suspended nine fraternity members from the group for one year over actions the college ultimately decided were protected by the First Amendment.

    The Pi Kappa Alpha members had dressed up as Mexican-American gang members on Halloween


  113. Cheque d'Out says:



  114. Farm Boy says:

    Then they took their road show, “An Evening With the Clintons,” to Montreal, but they fared little better (and not for lack of trying: In a case of classic Clinton pandering, each said that Canada was superior to America).

    And things kept getting worse. Ticket prices for their event in Texas plunged to just $6. Seems no one is interested in hearing them tell “stories and inspiring anecdotes that shaped their historic careers in public service, while also discussing issues of the day and looking toward the future,” which a press release promised.

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  115. Cheque d'Out says:

    Farm Boy, ta. Scheduled for 10pm tonight, I think.


  116. Cill says:

    May 8:39 am



  117. Cheque d'Out says:

    The savings that we can make when we get to clear the public sector of all the parasites doing jobs that aren’t necessary (or even useful). And legislate the private sector the ability to do the same. HR department becomes HR officer (part time)

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  118. Cheque d'Out says:

    She’s just like the teacher in Charlie Brown. You’re not supposed to listen. This enables her to carry on screwing the country over on the sly.

    Liked by 3 people

  119. Cill says:

    New Zealand Blocks Huawei

    New Zealand has blocked Huawei from supplying technology for a next-generation mobile data network in the country, joining the United States and other developed countries that see the Chinese telecommunications equipment maker as a security threat.

    High bloody time. During the Obama administration the Chinese made billions ripping off western patents and intellectual property without paying for it. And now they are using it to spy on and rip off more western know-how.

    The technological growth of China is not an economic miracle. Any fool can make a fortune out of theft, if they are allowed to get away with it.

    Liked by 7 people

  120. Farm Boy says:

    White professors can no longer tell their students to “be respectful in class” or ask them to take their feet off of desks or to turn off their phones, lest they be investigated for racial bias.

    Liked by 1 person

  121. molly says:

    Warning do not handshake Hillary! Snakes lack hands eh. It is a snake head up her sleeve and it has poisonous fangs. It bites trumpets LOL

    Liked by 2 people

  122. Cill says:

    “Avoid women altogether” is probably better advice.

    Liked by 2 people

  123. earl says:

    “Avoid women altogether” is probably better advice.’

    Also ‘Feminists are not happy’…can be the headline for any story about feminists.

    Liked by 2 people

  124. Cheque d'Out says:

    Here we go…

    Liked by 1 person

  125. Cheque d'Out says:

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  126. Cheque d'Out says:

    I’m personally unconvinced that you can tell any of our politicians a damn thing. But perhaps I’m wrong? A few of them are saying, in the chamber of the house of commons, that if BREXIT isn’t delivered then it’s going to be squeaky bum time for the establishment. We’ll see. When fuel charges were to go up here under PM Brown-stain, a modest number of lorry blockades changed his mind right quick smart.

    We’ll see. Big demo in London on Sunday.


  127. BuenaVista says:

    Spawny 05:31.

    My dad ran a newspaper that the NPCs at Gannett bought. He never had an HR department. The “HR Department” was your boss.

    I started and developed a few companies. I had to do incredibly detailed business plans (to raise capital). In reflecting, I didn’t have a line item for “HR” until we moved a moronic female from secretary to “HR”, following the usual spurious “hostile environment” lawsuit from another female. That was 1995.

    (I did enjoy having an HR department in my next company. The boss, daughter of a Silver Star SOF colonel, swore like Jack Nicholson and was H7/B9. Of course she hired another H7/B9. I promise I never looked.)

    So, in agreement, it’s not a job, it’s a scam. And it’s here for good.

    Liked by 2 people

  128. BuenaVista says:

    Huawei: I refused to sell anything to or associated with China. There are tough countries out there. But most of them don’t have the immediate theft of IP as official state policy.

    Liked by 3 people

  129. BuenaVista says:

    Consent videos story: note that one of the feminist experts quoted states that “consent” can be removed at any time, video in place or not. “Hahaha, gotcha anyway.” This is true, today, on the campus. Months can pass. A year can pass. She may then revoke consent.

    Five years ago, Game Playas in the ‘sphere were talking about surreptitious recording devices. I thought they were deranged and depraved. Nope.


  130. Liz says:

    Think I mentioned a while back, very soon after Mike first arrived at the last job the base had a visit from representatives of different governments.
    He was supposed to show them around and shake their hands, give them each one of his coins. Anyway, he started looking through the list and saw there were some PRC government officials on it. He asked the protocol lady, “what the hell are the Chinese doing on this list?”
    At any rate, he told her he wasn’t giving them a coin (they’d ordered a bunch of these specially for the occasion, months prior). He didn’t want his coin on the desk of someone in the PRC. Nor was he going to shake their hands. She said it would be awkward if he didn’t, he responded, “Guess it’s going to have to be awkward then”.
    Poor protocol lady. I’m sure she thought he was crazy. 😆
    I thought he’d be fired for sure, but it all turned out well.

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  131. Liz says:

    Update on the roof and water damage, insurance is paying! Woop! Thank goodness….they won’t be able to get up there and fix it until spring, but at least it’s covered.
    And they got a double oven in today that they said yesterday was impossible to fit (they’d done the measuring prior, I guess incorrectly). Mike just got home last night.
    Everything is better when he is home!

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  132. Ame says:

    some female public employee from this or that agency that didn’t exist 50 years was helpfully assisting the little people.

    i don’t like female voices on the radio; i flip to the next radio station when they come on.

    Remember, a bigger side by side four-wheeler is heavier than a smaller one.

    bwahahaha! really?!!!

    that’s crazy irritating, BV.

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  133. Ame says:

    Just make sure your phone is charged up and record the whole shebang.

    then immediately send a copy to another location so if she rips off your phone, you still have the record.

    Liked by 1 person

  134. Ame says:

    BV –

    H7/B9 ?


  135. Ame says:

    LOVE having 2 ovens!

    Everything is better when he is home!

    always 🙂 🙂 🙂

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  136. Ame says:

    my mom’s gf (who i younger than her four children) came with a son who she has helped raise the last 10+ years. sister, who went to the family thanksgiving that i wasn’t invited to, said that they spent the whole time trying to get special ed info out of her (she’s taught sped kids in her reg-ed classroom for 20 years).

    i said to my sister, “So, two feminists who never take responsibility for anything and who think they know everything, who justify every.freaking.thing they do, who have abandoned everyone who was supposed to be important in their lives, including him (decided they couldn’t handle him so dropped him off w/a family in a different state and left a year or two ago) … are wondering why they can’t raise a boy into a man?!!!

    thank God, literally, that whatever genetics that woman passed onto me did not include her absolute stupidity and depravity and selfishness.

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  137. Cheque d'Out says:

    Ooh look! A new post!


  138. Farm Boy says:

    That protocol lady didn’t know what she was doing.

    End of story

    Liked by 1 person

  139. Farm Boy says:

    i don’t like female voices on the radio; i flip to the next radio station when they come on.

    You know, my Mom said the same thing

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  140. BuenaVista says:

    Maybe I’m supposed to say F7/B9. I’m rusty on the Game shorthand.

    Above average face = H7.

    You want to have very loose swim trunks if you go swimming together = B9.

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  141. Farm Boy says:

    A Promising Male Birth Control Trial Is Finally Happening, But Some Women Are Furious


  142. Farm Boy says:

    “Sorry guys, you don’t get to shit yourselves every time a white person voices an ethnic Disney character and then say Warren’s lie is no big deal. You made this bed. No one else. Have a nice sleep!”, adding, “Your Halloween costumes are all offensive but Warren pretending to be professionally Cherokee until it no longer became politically expedient is no big deal. Nope. Doesn’t work that way.”


  143. SFC Ton says:

    You want to have very loose swim trunks if you go swimming together = B9.

    Fuck no snake! Ain’t no shame in my game. Or shame in my magnificent erections. I’m proud of that shit


  144. Farm Boy says:

    National Rifle Association (NRA) spokeswoman Dana Loesch is calling Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand’s declaration that “our future is female” a “pretty boring future if it’s just women,” adding that the New York Democrat’s comment was “nonsense” and “sexist.”

    “Well where are the men in the future?” asked Loesch in response. “Because that sounds like a pretty boring future if it’s just women.”


  145. Farm Boy says:

    Lena Dunham has issued an open letter of apology to Aurora Perrineau a year after the “Girls” creator came under fire for defending her friend, “Girls” writer Murray Miller, who Perrineau had accused of sexual assault.


  146. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:

    “What’s up with these chads going after married women?”
    Pump and Dump, and with someone else paying the lot rent…


  147. Ame says:

    male volunteers will apply the NES/T gel daily (to their arms and shoulders) for about 20 weeks. Once their sperm counts have plummeted to a point identified as infertility, they and their female partners will then be asked to only use the gel for pregnancy prevention for the next year.

    After one year, they’ll stop taking the gel and be tracked for another six months to ensure that the effects on sperm count are reversible.

    you have to ensure a couple stays together for almost 2 years for this trial to work. hummm …


  148. Farm Boy says:

    Actress and activist Alyssa Milano is encouraging others to fight back against Education Secretary Betsy DeVos’s proposed Title IX rules aimed at protecting the rights of the accused and clarifying the definition of sexual harassment.

    “Title IX protects women that much she knew and something so good simply won’t do,” Milano read. “All night she stayed up her mind ablaze, the shitty ideas pouring onto the page. No more investigations for off-campus rape, bars and house parties would totally be safe. The meaning of harassment she would remove, squeeze and twist until it was hard to prove.”

    [Perhaps if “hard to prove” a charge is,
    Made it should have been not]

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  149. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:

    Facebook live the whole event, so we can see that consent was not withdrawn. 😎


  150. BuenaVista says:

    Since I’m China-bashing, I should note, in the interest of fairness, that I patented an analytic platform software engine — because we were concerned that the CIA, FBI or NSA would “classify” it. That is how *they* steal stuff. They just say “this stuff is too hot for the private sector to manage. It’s classified and inaccessible to any private sector entity. Like Lockheed Martin.”

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  151. Liz says:

    heh, I thought the standard operating procedure for passing off sensitive data is to store it on a “homebrew server” and then get “hacked”.


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