And Everything Nice

Over Thanksgiving dinner the conversation turned to modern young women.  To my surprise, my in her 60s sister-in-law suggested that modern young women were no where as near as nice as those in her day.  Coming from here, this was unexpected.  She has a history of women’s in-group preference.  I suggested that maybe it was just the prettier ones that were like that.  “No, they are are all like that, even the not pretty ones”, she said.  I suggested that maybe they can get away with that now, but when their youth is gone, men (but probably not government) will ignore them.  She didn’t disagree.

I am considerably younger than my SIL, and I had thought that I had noticed the same thing.  But I had always wondered if it was because other factors were influencing me, particularly frustrations with women (including divorce) in my past.  But here was a data point that could not have such a potential bias.

When I was a boy, girl were taught to actually be nice.  These days, it seems that they are taught to act nice, but actually be nice only when it suits them (though try to obfuscate being not nice).  I suppose that is one type of empowerment.

So how about it?  Has this aspect changed throughout the years?

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227 comments on “And Everything Nice
  1. Farm Boy says:

    Sometimes I wonder if perceptions that I have over time are just about me. When other people unprompted assert the same things, it makes me more confident

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  2. h0neyc0mb says:

    I’ve coached my brothers about how they’re raising their daughters.

    They are creating future monsters.

    And they don’t care .. it’s going to be a long time before the Dads get this parenting affliction out of their collective system(s).

    I weep for our future .. (that’s an illustration .. I’m really watching rings side as the world burns and prepping for the decline .. Maybe I should juat add more gas to the fire .. hmmm).

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  3. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:

    “They are creating future monsters”…

    Not all their fault. Social media and the educational environment has an awful lot to do with it.

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  4. h0neyc0mb says:

    Agreed .. they (my brothers) aren’t all bad at raising kids ..

    But how they are raising their girls makes me cringe.

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  5. Farm Boy says:

    And they don’t care

    Do they not truly understand, or do they understand and not care


  6. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:



  7. molly says:


    Be a virgin for the man you marry. Then 2 things as a wife. One is…. Food! A way to a man’s heart is thrugh his tummy tum tum..

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  8. Farm Boy says:

    Probably the wife likes the fine food also. What is not to like?

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  9. molly says:

    The other is.. A back country cook up for all y’all! Yo!

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  10. BuenaVista says:

    One’s feminist social credit score goes up, not down, for being sassy, saucy and self-centered. (That is, a bitch.) This is true IRL and online.

    This is opposite the case when I came of age. Say you wanted to interact with a girl who didn’t feel the same. She’d ignore you, politely. Say you tore someone apart logically in seminar; she’d ignore you, politely. Say you broke up with someone who still liked you: she’d make polite efforts to get back together. And so on. There were no merit badges for being a weapons grade harridan. There were no “I’ll get you (with a false accusation)” issues to manage.

    In my case (Drink!) I simply didn’t know anyone with the manners of women I interact with daily now. And that includes vendors, low-status vendors, ex-gf’s. It’s at the point where I’m surprised if the girl at the convenience store says ‘hi’ or ‘how you doin”. While you’re supporting her job with a $70 fuel buy.

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  11. BuenaVista says:

    Illiterate sentence.

    I simply don’t know anyone with classical manners, in the group of women I interact with now.

    Some, or all of that, is on me, of course. (Selection errors.)


  12. molly says:

    Don’t Americans say beautiful things. “All Y’all.” It is perfect! “All” embraces “y’all”.
    (hugs y’all)

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  13. Farm Boy says:

    One’s feminist social credit score goes up, not down, for being sassy, saucy and self-centered. This is true IRL and online.

    One’s lady social credit score goes up, not down, for being not sassy, not saucy and not self-centered. This is true IRL and online.

    But nobody seems to care anymore

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  14. Farm Boy says:

    In the northern US, people don’t say y’all. I work with some southerners, and I use y’all in their presence

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  15. molly says:

    Hmmm. 3:11 pm. I pick some mint from the garden and put on a slow lamb roast for my hubby. He likes to eat at 5:30 sharp.

    Bye dee bye!

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  16. h0neyc0mb says:

    Do they not truly understand, or do they understand and not care

    FB .. they’re as Blue Pill as Blue Pill gets about their lil princessssses ..

    I’ve told’em you can choose .. complimentary or competitive .. both would be fine compared to the option they’ve chosen.

    These girls have been taught NAUGHT / ZILCH / NADA / NIL / ZERO / etc regarding traditional skill-sets. Heck .. I learned those before I left the house for college.

    Gardening .. mending clothes .. housework .. chores .. cooking .. cleaning .. storage of food .. hunting .. fishing .. machinist .. mechanic .. wood work .. electrical .. electronics .. HAM radio .. Flying .. athletics (multi-sport) .. musical instruments .. child care (I had younger brothers) .. lawn care .. canning and perserving .. timber / fellin trees for firewood and to clear land .. bicycle repair .. typing .. computer programing and repair .. junior olympic player and then coach .. cub scout and boy scout .. camping .. sailing .. and list goes on for miles like most men and women of a by-gone era ..

    And what do my knee-sees (brothers daughters) know .. crickets (modern wimminz studies) .. and they exoect them to go to college and get a career and then a husband (only a prince will do of course) .. puke

    If you suggest they should be learning how to make the best of their most fertile years and get married .. well then the fight starts.

    Though .. the advice they give the boys .. is right in line with what we were taught .. 40 to 60 years out-dated with the sjw twist / flavor.

    My favorite is .. they tell the boys to never hit a woman .. to which I laugh so hard out loud that his.boys even mock him now .. It doesn’t help if I also say .. “What if she deserved it?” .. “What then?” .. “Are you supposed to just be a punching bag?” .. “How about you teach wimmimz not to hit men!” .. “and then maybe you have a point .. But if she takes the position of a man .. I’ll knock that BITCH out like I would a man!”

    My parents have had some tough talks from me over the last 3 years of so .. they realize that it’s a mess .. but they only see thru a small part of the problem. They (myblarents) can’t take the convo’s with my brothers to far because they want to see their grand-children.

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  17. Farm Boy says:

    Seems like they don’t understand


  18. Farm Boy says:

    Or maybe they are deliberately not understanding


  19. h0neyc0mb says:

    Molly ..

    I witnessed an older woman once as a kid .. tell a new bride what her responsibilities were ..

    She pointed to the husband(s) tummy and said “you keep that full” .. and then pointed to his man sack .. and said “you keep those empty”.

    It’s still the best advice I’ve evva heard regarding a husband and wife.

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  20. Jack says:

    It is too easy for young girls and parents to go with the flow of Feminist culture. Consequences don’t show up until middle age.

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  21. Cill says:

    HC wee molly certainly received that message from her mum and other elders, not quite as pointedly as that but to the same effect, and she grew up with it working around her from the start.

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  22. France update

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  23. Liz says:

    Just went to a high school football banquet tonight, and sat next to a couple with two boys on the team and also a daughter who plays sports. Someone at the table asked if she was interested in football, and that started a topic-related conversation about how aggressive and mean girls are today. Guess the dad coached for the girl’s basketball team and he said girls are more aggressive than boys these days…REALLY mean. Bloody fights and everything.
    Keep in mind I live in the “whitest” place I’ve ever lived, so these girls are not “ethnic”….I’d expect the Serena Williams types to act like that, but WTF is happening to regular, non-dare-I-say-jigabooesque girls?!?

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  24. So many people are filling their daughter’s heads with the exact opposite advice, and the whole culture supports it. It’s true that this parents think it’s going to help their kids but it’s actually terrible advice. But true, that doesn’t become clear until mid life. I don’t see any awareness in the larger culture about that outcome and why it’s happening, it’s still seen as, “there aren’t any good guys…guys just can’t handle a strong woman…” or whatever. Not that the path of put off marriage, be a siw, hookup, be empowered, etc. is the cause.

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  25. Cill says:

    At some point I should explain my own current situation. I just ain’t had the time.

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  26. Sadly that doesn’t surprise me Liz. Girls are taught to “be fierce, like a guy” but women aren’t equipped to compartmentalize that kind of stuff like guys can.

    It’s similar to how girls wil drag some conflict on and on with girl games, it’s never “done” while guys will just punch each other, one wins, and it’s settled. It’s not taught it’s innate, it doesn’t translate.

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  27. Girls don’t think in a heirarchy for one. The heirarchy mentality keeps male ferocity in check. Women see respect for heirarchy as sexist or oppression where men see it’s necessary to create law and order, puts the civil in civilization.

    Maybe that’s why women are so afraid of masculinity? Because they don’t get that there are checks and balances, they view it via a female mindset where there is no heirarchy so of course it seems dangerous. If guys didn’t respect heirarchy it would be dangerous.

    Not sure if that makes sense… kinda hard to put into words.

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  28. And actually male kids raised wo a male influence often don’t get the heirarchy thing either and struggle w authority and such. Bigger stronger males keep violence in check, they don’t cause it.

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  29. If bigger stronger men opt for violence it’s usually to get things back in check! Aggression against the weaker and powerless is not respected among men, unless they are bad men (criminals, abusers, etc.)

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  30. Cill says:

    Yes, there’s a male hierarchy. When there’s no hierarchy there’s often a self-appointed leader in the pack. He gives orders and bosses people around. After a while the natural order prevails, and the fake alpha if he persists in his behavior ends up treated as a bit of a joke. All of that happens without blows unless he’s a physical bully tougher than the rest, in which case it takes longer. Apart from thugs and dumbcucks, men don’t like being subservient to a thug. If there happens to be a bloke in there who has been watching all along, and he has the wherewithal to give the bully a spanking, and emphatically does just that, he’ll be accepted as the real leader if he wants that role. He might prefer that another man take the role. At that level it’s more a matter of it happening to suit his own purposes than liking the other man.

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  31. Cill says:

    I’m not talking about soyboy modern males there. They go with the mob like group-think sheep. Or a bait ball.


  32. BuenaVista says:

    “Apart from thugs and dumbcucks, men don’t like being subservient to a thug.”

    I had occasion in early October to speek with a lieutenant of the local PD. I had broken a couple of rules and was in my normal position with a computer and a beverage on a picnic table next to the lake. (Drink!)

    He was basically doing a welfare check, since I’m a known eccentric in this smalll town. But I’d been a bad boy and he wanted to talk about it.

    He asked me to identify myself and I l stared at him. This was pointless because he’d already run my licence plates, but I don’t talk to cops. He then said he wasn’t going to do anything, and I ID’d myself.

    We had a conversation about my errors in judgment. Then he said, “Are you ok? You seem like a good guy.”

    “Ups and downs Lieutenant. That’s true for everyone who did what I did. Thank you for asking.”

    “You seem like a good guy.”

    “I made payroll and did unusual things for a long time. There are no assholes in leadership, who keep it together, for a long time. That’s true in your business, too.”

    I added, “Where is the camera? I didn’t find one.”

    The Lieut. works for a profoundly corrupt Chief, who moonlights as a Deacon at the Catholic Church. I like to go to morning Mass, even though I’m not Catholic, but I want to puke when he is there administering.

    We chit-chatted about cars and football and he departed. I was not arrested or ticketed.

    Cill is correct: most guys with a backbone have zero tolerance for corrupt leadership. It *is* everywhere, however.

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  33. Ame says:

    Sometimes I wonder if perceptions that I have over time are just about me. When other people unprompted assert the same things, it makes me more confident

    it’s sad when those perceptions that are negative are confirmed.

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  34. Ame says:

    (((hugs)))) to Molly and “All Y’all” in your family 🙂

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  35. Ame says:

    he said girls are more aggressive than boys these days…REALLY mean. Bloody fights and everything.

    that’s sooo tragic and debase.

    ‘equality’ does not look good on girls, ever.

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  36. Ame says:

    it’s still seen as, “there aren’t any good guys…guys just can’t handle a strong woman…”

    Bloom – that get’s so old, doesn’t it.

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  37. Ame says:

    At some point I should explain my own current situation. I just ain’t had the time.

    Cill – would love to read your story.


  38. Ame says:

    BV being a ‘bad boy’ … just can’t picture that 😉 🙂


  39. Ame says:

    it’s interesting being a Mom of an 18-almost-19 year old daughter and a 21 year old daughter and seeing them live out what i’ve taught them over the years. admittedly, many of the things taught weren’t so much intentional as necessary.

    for example, when Oldest was in 4th grade, her Dad and his parents started doing some really bad things to her – things that caused her to become suicidal at 9 years old 😦 , she needed some ways to protect herself, but i knew she had to also honor God when doing so.

    so i took out some construction paper and colored markers, and we looked up verses about honoring your parents and wrote them at the top. i taught her that she needed to honor her Dad and his parents when with them, but we needed to come up with ways she could also protect herself emotionally. some of the things were – telling them she needed to use the restroom … this is something they would allow her to do immediately and would remove her from their presence so she could get a break and collect herself. another was to start coughing – it took the focus off what they were doing and placed it onto her health, which is another thing they would do. i forget the others, but this worked. it gave a nine year old girl some control where she desperately needed it while also teaching her to honor God by respecting her Dad and his parents.

    so as young adults, i see that played out in how they respect people, especially men – as i have taught them to do.

    another thing i taught them over the years because it was necessary was that i didn’t care what every other parent and child did, i cared about what we did … because i am responsible to God for my actions and not other parents. that taught them that we honor God’s directives rather than go with culture.

    what is interesting about the respect issue is that their Dad’s dad, and also their Dad, used the term ‘disrespect’ for anyone that did anything they didn’t approve of, including many benign things (which is why his dad came to hate me … b/c i didn’t think drinking was wrong … or dancing … or letting our children have pacifiers … or telling our daughters they were beautiful … etc). yet teaching my daughters to properly respect their Dad and grandfather was not an option even while they believed (and the grandfather still does) that we are extremely disrespectful.

    if one does not have a point of reference (as God and the Bible are mine – not church or Christians, but God and the Bible), then they release themselves to the flow of culture and where ever that takes them. sadly and quite tragically, it has led to a culture that creates and encourages and empowers debase women and girls.

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  40. SFC Ton says:

    Raised/ raising my boys to be purposefully aggressive.

    Not sure the girl power crowd understands that

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  41. Cheque d'Out says:

    If you’re pasting twitter links then removing the ‘http://mobile.twitter.blahblah’ helps it be rendered rather than left as a link. Same with youtube ‘https://m.youbend.blahblah’

    That’s how I fixed Bloom’s twitter link up-thread

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  42. Cheque d'Out says:

    From The Sunday Telegraph.


    by Janet Daley

    The PM’s flat refusal to address the problems with her Brexit deal is an insult to the British public

    It’s all going according to plan. The great establishment stitch-up is no longer even bothering to stay undercover, having recruited its most formidable forces – the Bank of England and the supposedly neutral agents of the Treasury – in its last desperate moves. Theresa May has now explicitly ruled out all the plausible candidates for a Plan B, including a Norway model which was gathering steam at an alarming pace, allegedly leaving only No Deal as an alternative to her wildly unpopular proposal. And, in this last ditch battle, No Deal (invariably described by the BBC as “crashing out”) is getting the full horror show treatment.

    So that’s it: the only hands still in play are supposed to be Brexit in Name Only (BRINO) or falling off the cliff into No Deal. In fact, Donald Tusk gave the game away at the G20 on Friday by admitting that there was, in fact, a third option: No Brexit – the conspirators’ real destination of choice – was still in the game. Like an exasperated parent losing patience with a hesitating child, he put it bluntly: mess us around for too long and we’ll see to it that you don’t get out – ever.

    Meanwhile back in Westminster, it is unclear whether the Prime Minister can unilaterally prevent Parliament from proposing or endorsing (with legal force) any other course, but even if constitutional arrangements do permit it, there would be profound moral and political repugnance at such an autocratic exercise of power by the executive. This is very dangerous ground indeed. The chief actors in the drama must know this, and yet they are clearly prepared to take quite extraordinary risks with the integrity of British institutions and the conscientious determination of the electorate. We can only assume that there is even more at stake for them personally – or that they hold British parliamentary democracy in even greater contempt – than we had thought.

    Maybe we should not be too surprised. There is something truly bizarre about this entire chapter in British history. I cannot remember any prime minister or any elected government – however unpopular or discredited – being so brazenly immune to argument, so defiantly resistant to the reality of its own weakness as this one, which is particularly strange since it is a minority government which owes its viability to an arrangement with another party [The DUP – Norn Irn party of real conservatives]. (You can disregard the reasonably respectable Tory opinion poll ratings: they are simply a consequence of the collapse of Ukip which leaves Brexit supporters with no alternative, and are probably as much as anything a reflection of voters’ support for Brexiteer MPs who seem to be making all the running.)

    This whole debacle is now becoming bound up with the personality of the Prime Minister herself. Embattled leaders generally go down fighting and almost never admit – even long after the fact – that their policies were mistaken. But they usually feel obliged (this being a democracy) to defend their position with arguments that are based on a process of reason and conscious thought. What is entirely new is the surreal performance we are now getting from Mrs May. She does not discuss possibilities or critique her opponents’ views. She does not even defend, in the proper sense of the word, her position. Representing what is far and away the most important national decision of our lifetimes, she presents a blank reiteration of mindless formulae in a way that seems positively sinister.

    I saw a televised encounter sometime during this last interminable week in which a reporter asked her a question to which she gave the predictable unsatisfactory reply. He then followed up with a further, more detailed question – to which she replied with the very same words as she had to his first question. And when I say the same words, I mean exactly the same words which were accompanied by exactly the same facial expressions.

    I once heard a police detective say that if a witness’s description of an event was absolutely identical every time he told it, it gave grounds for suspicion. When people are genuinely recollecting, or sincerely arguing, their accounts are spontaneous, not memorised or rehearsed. I wonder if Mrs May and her minders realise how much the peculiarly pre-scripted lack of variation in her speech itself gives rise to distrust. Combined with an utter refusal to address even reasonable dissent, it has surely increased the public animosity to her take-it-or-leave-it “deal”.

    When she does improvise, of course, the results can be disastrous. Last Friday, she claimed in an interview with Sky News both that she “can’t see an alternative” (to her deal), and that “nobody has put up an alternative” which are quite different things. Once this kind of popular suspicion takes root, it is difficult to supplant. There is now a widespread sense, even among non-Brexiteers, that there is something seriously not right about this: that the country’s elected leader is being directed (and given lines to speak) by people who are unaccountable and largely unknown to the public, for unfathomable reasons. In the end, that pernicious mistrust will be as corrosive to faith in democracy as any possible outcome of the Brexit process.

    The sad fact is that the concessions from the EU leaders for which Mrs May so repeatedly claims credit are not unlike the reforms that Brussels might have given to David Cameron when he pleaded for something plausible he could offer to what he saw as a baying mob at home. Had it been done back then, the referendum might have gone another way. But it’s too late now. The British population has been patronised, insulted and openly despised by both the EU and its own governing class, and there is no coming back from that. If the government ignores the national anger, and if a pusillanimous Parliament goes along too, the damage will last for a generation. Not forever – because nothing in politics lasts forever – but for long enough to require a very different settlement between government and people. Whoever follows Mrs May into power will have to speak and argue a lot better than she does.

    My boldies.

    Have to hand it to Tusk, the EU has been a great help to those wanting TFO. They just cannot help but lay bare their extreme cuntitude. And (I hope) far from cowing brexiteers, it causes sane remainers to wonder just whether the EU is a good thing to be part of, or whether it’s a bunch of control freak corrupt thugs acting like they’re running a protection racket.

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  43. Cheque d'Out says:

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  46. Cheque d'Out says:

    May savaged by the television presenter equivalent of a goldfish on breakfast tv.

    12 and a half minutes in she gets hoofed in the bolleaux. Then the woman presenter makes it about her husband and her feelings. Then round two.

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  47. earl says:

    ‘I’ve coached my brothers about how they’re raising their daughters.

    They are creating future monsters.

    And they don’t care .. it’s going to be a long time before the Dads get this parenting affliction out of their collective system(s).’

    Boomer and X fathers create just as many feminists as academia, the harpies, and society. They are the ones that can actually stop it by being good fathers.

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  48. earl says:


    ‘I’ve told’em you can choose .. complimentary or competitive .. both would be fine compared to the option they’ve chosen.’

    You can do all you can do…at least you have presented some pushback from the status quo we’ve had the past 60 years. In the end they are the fathers of their daughtes and their responsibility.

    The past couple of gals I’ve dated I have met their fathers…I can tell you now that not only do I want to know the lady pretty well before I decide…I want to know her father’s method of thinking. I think finding the father who ran his household well and raised his daughters right is becoming as much a unicorn as the unicorns are.

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  49. Cheque d'Out says:

    Hurrah! One of the wet tory infiltrators of UKIP has just resigned. Farage, for he is dead to me, got the central committee of UKIP to vote last night on getting rid of Gerard Batten (the new leader) over his association with Tommy Robinson. Nigel, the Norwegian Blue of UKIPers, LOST that vote.

    I said that when Gerard took over that he needed a clear out of the tory infiltrators and dross elements of the party…looks like he’s using Tommy as a way to do that. I’d prefer that Tommy was kept as an external ally, personally, as he has great potential for causing accidental harm for UKIP. But he should be kept as an ally.

    Suzanne Evans. Ex-tory. Going back to them?

    She and her ilk are determined to make UKIP a wet, somewhat eurosceptic party, as a safe alternative to the creation of a real alternative to the liblabcon. Glad she’s gone. Hope that the exodus continues.

    Gerard Batten appears to be making UKIP into a party relevant to the future of the country, not merely an anti-EU party. We shall see but so far, I like him. He’s a no-nonsense performer on TV who batters idiot questioners with facts.

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  50. Cheque d'Out says:

    In news that you’re not getting in your MSM, or me in mine

    Civil War Erupts In Sweden as Irate Swedes Burn Nine Muslim Refugee Centers to the Ground

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  51. “Civil War Erupts In Sweden as Irate Swedes Burn Nine Muslim Refugee Centers to the Ground”

    If that’s what it takes …


  52. On raising aggressive daughters:

    Yesterday in the gym I heard two guys talking about their kids and when one of them proudly referred to his fifth grade daughter as “a real beast out there” I just couldn’t even …

    As to one of BV’s earlier comments; when I was in high school and college, girls were expected to be nice and pleasant in their public personas. The top-level pretty girls could be “stuck up” if you tried to bag one that was “out of your league” but really that was your fault for over-stepping. Otherwise they were pleasant and friendly. Were some girls just born to be bitches? Sure, but some guys are just born assholes, so it kinds evens out. Everybody just left those people alone as much as possible. I was super-blue pill in those days. I could date second-tier girls, 6s-7s aplenty, and could occasionally get an 8 for brief periods, but frankly I wasn’t focused or aggressive enough to maintain their attention for long. That was on me so no hard feelings, now… : )

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  53. As far as people having faith in government, how could any rational person still believe the fairy stories we were all taught as children?

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  54. Liz says:

    Through the years, different assignments, there have been quite a few squadrons where the spouses want their own “namings”, crud games, dining ins, “pink flags”, et al….
    They’re always designed to be morale/team building activities, but so often go wrong.

    Namings in particular never go well. I’ve mentioned callsigns before, and how vulgar they can be. Typically in a real naming there’s an assigned “pugilist” with the hammer, and there is always a de facto “throwaway” name (in the past it has been “shaved dog’s ass”, SDA for short….I do know one poor f*cker who got that name. Just imagine this setup with a great deal of alcohol and women only. Need I say more? Feelings are hurt, foreva…often physically violent.

    Unfortunately when I got to the last assignment I was the person in charge of all these ladies’ events. I wanted to cancel the yearly crud tourney when I arrived, but was told it was extremely popular. Crud is a very aggressive game (originated in Canada), even with some modified rules. It’s played with pool tables and two balls, one of which is thrown at the other. People knock each other out of the way to keep them from shooting straight and so forth. They’re always bruises. Each table needs a ref to watch and call the plays. Refs are volunteers I had to find (they were all men). Think they all had PTSD from that night. And then there were the ultra-competitive “dining ins”. Talk about a thankless job. I mentioned Colorado is good for the skin, but it might just be the stress level has left, which is like a fountain of youth or something.

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  55. Liz says:

    Crud demo (it’s never this polite):

    This is actually a very fun game to play for couples (boys versus girls), I’m not kidding, it’s fun when the competition is good natured. All women, not as much.


  56. Cheque d'Out says:


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  57. Liz says:


    It has begun…

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  58. Cheque d'Out says:

    It still amuses me how he calls someone an incompetent and/or lying twat to their face

    I’d be even more amused if he tazed them just afterwards. Pour encourager les autres.

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  59. Cheque d'Out says:

    Yes, Liz

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  60. Cheque d'Out says:

    Definitely awkward

    or would be if our standards for public life were not in the gutter.

    A disgrace. In a decent system she’d have been forced out of politics years ago. Politicians seem to think that politics enables them to ignore decency and honesty…it really doesn’t. I hope that this is the lesson that The God Emperor will teach the world. At the very least, the anglosphere


  61. Cheque d'Out says:

    I remember seeing this nutter, or a close reproduction, on Oxford Street in the eighties

    An early vegan bampot


  62. Cheque d'Out says:

    The gilets jaunes (yellow jacket) protests in la belle France…caused by what?

    But the main one is the 23 per cent hike in the price of diesel which Macron has inflicted on motorists. And to which he has then added insult to injury by telling them in a classic “Let them eat cake” moment, that it’s all OK — they can just use public transport instead.


  63. Farm Boy says:

    Dorothy was a nice girl. Her friends and relatives were nice also

    L Frank Baum’s original novel was written in 1900 and the film was made in 1939. Yet all the themes of Trump’s America are there. We can read the catastrophic effects of climate change into the tornado that sets the narrative off, see the opioid crisis in the characters’ drugged sleep in Oz’s Powell and Pressburger-esque poppy field, and empathise with the mangy Lion, rusty Tin Man and understuffed Scarecrow’s search for organ donors and reliable medical support in an Oz without a solid welfare state.

    Dorothy’s family life with her aunt and uncle in Kansas resembles Dorothea Lange photographs of rural poverty. Dorothy and her relatives are skinny, careworn, shabbily dressed, their house and outbuildings peeling. The monochrome scenes are in a washed-out grey, not a stylish noir. Dorothy is isolated. She has no friends her own age and does not meet other children on her adventure.


  64. Farm Boy says:

    In case you forgot,


  65. Cheque d'Out says:

    Fair enough

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  66. Cheque d'Out says:

    Yes but, regarding Oz, I wouldn’t wipe my arse with the grauniad


  67. Farm Boy says:

    So is there a modern day Bastille to storm?

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  68. Ame says:

    she’s female? i don’t consider females pastors.


  69. Liz says:

    “Pastor” fuckedupedness level= expert
    Seems like someone everyone should ignore.
    She’s worse, and lower, than the piles of sh*t in San Fran.

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  70. Farm Boy says:

    A LEADING MEP has warned EU citizens they could be “jailed” for criticising migration policies if a new United Nations agreement is acted upon

    “One basic element of this new agreement is the extension of the definition of hate speech.

    “The agreement wants to criminalise migration speech. Criticism of migration will become a criminal offence.

    “Media outlets that give room to criticism of migration can be shut down.

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  71. SFC Ton says:

    It has begun…
    We shall see but I promise all y’all this

    The government will go after dissident right wing Whites much harder then they ever went after ISIS, AQ, UBL etc etc.

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  72. BuenaVista says:

    KHH, in reflecting on high school social models, I can’t recall a single empowered, rude bitch. There were about a dozen bad girls who hung out with the about a dozen bad guys (they were called “hoods” then), but they weren’t even rude. I wasn’t popular in high school, but even the mainstream Hot Gurlz (cheerleaders, etc.) always treated me with respect, in class and in the halls.

    In college I turned out to be popular. I didn’t have a single encounter in my 3.5 years that aligns with what I expect on an average night out, today. I didn’t think for five seconds in 3.5 years about the risk of being falsely accused. None of this is an exaggeration. If I were 20 today, I’d have to figure out how to make the new rules work. Since I’m not 20, I don’t spend a lot of time on it. The blowback can be awkward.

    I expect, today, to encounter a rude, self-centered female once a day. Could be a tatted up land whale at the gas station, could be the seething, resentful attractive waitress who loses her shit because you laughed and said, “I’m sorry, darling, but gray is not medium rare”, could be a vacant, medicated checkout woman at the farm supply store (today’s treat, at 7:15 a.m. no less). Now, when a guy walks down the street in Manhattan he’s going to get a lot countervailing eye contact and approval from women. But in the sticks, there aren’t a lot of hot, tall, thin women locking eyes unless they are “exotic dancers.”

    So, because I didn’t grow up with females whose social aspiration is to be brutish and self-centered, it seems very odd and I’m not prepared for it. But I’m not changing. OTOH, what happens to the young men who have only known this misanthropic female style.


    (Just discovered a good aircraft nose art meme: Miss Anthropic. I’d have her painted like goth Helen Bonham Carter in “Fight Club”.)

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  73. BuenaVista says:

    The tattooed Pastor (ELCA Lutheran strain) recently preached on the virtue of pornography, provided that it is produced under conditions she considers respectful. If porn is Lutheran-Lesbian-Approved and produced under Lutheran-Lesbian-Approved conditions, how much fun can that be? I wonder if she will get some skin in the game and demonstrate how responsible porn looks and is produced ethically. Could be a reality show.

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  74. BuenaVista says:

    Three new pipelines from the Permian (furreners: West Texas oil patch) to refineries come on-line next year. Oil traders: Expect a tsunamic of cheap oil and refined gas, and per-gallon pricing of <$2.00.

    Macron: I'm raising your fuel pricing to $7/gallon to save the earth, and if that's inconvenient, you have public transport options.

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  75. BuenaVista says:

    Here we go. Nothing deranged about this.


  76. Cheque d'Out says:

    Most sad


  77. Stephanie says:

    “Unfortunately when I got to the last assignment I was the person in charge of all these ladies’ events. I wanted to cancel the yearly crud tourney when I arrived, but was told it was extremely popular. Crud is a very aggressive game (originated in Canada), even with some modified rules. It’s played with pool tables and two balls, one of which is thrown at the other. People knock each other out of the way to keep them from shooting straight and so forth. They’re always bruises. Each table needs a ref to watch and call the plays. Refs are volunteers I had to find (they were all men). Think they all had PTSD from that night. And then there were the ultra-competitive “dining ins”. Talk about a thankless job. I mentioned Colorado is good for the skin, but it might just be the stress level has left, which is like a fountain of youth or something.”

    LOL Liz that is insane… wow, very thankful we don’t have anything remotely like that!!!

    Were they somewhat mandatory?

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  78. Cheque d'Out says:

    BV, if you read the article you’ll see that it’s probably not about upsetting vegans.


  79. Cheque d'Out says:

    An extraordinary afternoon in politics here. The Attorney General, the government’s lawyer, has said that:
    1) the withdrawal agreement has no expiry date in law
    2) the EU will have to okay us getting out of the agreement
    3) he will not release his legal advice to the government in direct contravention of a motion of the House of Commons demanding complete access.
    4) it’s a crap deal (he says! he says it’s not a deal that he likes)
    5) he thumped the desk in the chamber in a theatrical display over those present not buying his bullshit
    6) we should sign the deal anyway because we can trust the EU to behave decently (despite it being in their vital economic and political interests not to)

    I don’t remember any MP speaking in his defence.

    I wouldn’t hire him as a lawyer to write my hypothetical dog’s will.

    There’s now a request to hold a vote to hold the government in contempt of the House of Commons. We should see tomorrow.

    Where’s a mighty asteroid of peace when you need one?

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  80. Cheque d'Out says:

    Regarding my favourite hymn. My most rousing hymn.

    You probably already know the hymn was taken from a poem arranged to music by Holst.

    What many of you may not know is when they created the hymn they removed the first (and best) verse of Cecil Spring-Rice’s original poem.

    I heard my country calling, away across the sea,
    Across the waste of waters, she calls and calls to me.
    Her sword is girded at her side, her helmet on her head,
    And around her feet are lying the dying and the dead;
    I hear the noise of battle, the thunder of her guns;
    I haste to thee, my mother, a son among thy sons.

    I vow to thee, my country, all earthly things above,
    Entire and whole and perfect, the service of my love;
    The love that asks no question, the love that stands the test,
    That lays upon the altar the dearest and the best;
    The love that never falters, the love that pays the price,
    The love that makes undaunted the final sacrifice.

    And there’s another country, I’ve heard of long ago,
    Most dear to them that love her, most great to them that know;
    We may not count her armies, we may not see her King;
    Her fortress is a faithful heart, her pride is suffering;
    And soul by soul and silently her shining bounds increase,
    And her ways are ways of gentleness, and all her paths are peace

    [I knew about Rice being the ambassador to the US before and during the Great War, but I didn’t know that he did this. Good guy. -FB]

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  81. molly says:

    “he said girls are more aggressive than boys these days”

    Liz is right. Girls are thuggish and mugged me. They started it and they paid! My big cuzzies taught me some tricks aand I *Batman-ed* ’em –
    kaaaaPOW! BIFF! WRENCH! WALLOP! I bet you r staunch as well Liz! You would fight to the last gasp for your hubby and your boys eh.

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  82. molly says:

    I tried to send the comment to Liz half an hour ago and WE GOT HIT BY LIGHTNING
    Half of NZ hit! Power just came on again

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  83. molly says:

    I saw men out there working in the flash bang lightning and thunder. No sheilas out there risking their lives. I ❤ men I really do. ❤ ❤

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  84. molly says:

    My hubby is out there.. Be safe my precious one ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤

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  85. Cheque d'Out says:

    I’ll try and keep safe, sweety

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  86. Cheque d'Out says:

    Errm. What am I supposed to keep safe from?
    Cat on lap, fire lit, beer to hand and Die Hard on the screen

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  87. Cill says:

    And velvet slippers me old mate?

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  88. Liz says:

    “Could be a reality show.”
    Tori Spelling is an ordained minister.


  89. Liz says:

    “Were they somewhat mandatory?”

    Some of the hosted events were mandatory and seasonal (like hosting large functions at the house, or awards events), but the ones for ladies were just customary….they’d been done for a few years and people liked them, so showing up and telling them I wasn’t interested and wouldn’t it would’ve been unpopular. And we were in a weird position as outsiders coming into a job where everyone else had a “home court advantage”. So I tried to play ball…It was good for character development. LOL 😆

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  90. Cill says:

    Catching up here…

    EU “a bunch of control freak corrupt thugs acting like they’re running a protection racket.”

    My God I couldn’t have put it better than that in a thousand years.

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  91. Cheque d'Out says:

    Brace yourselves for terrible news. The worst


  92. Cheque d'Out says:

    Cill, it’s a gift.

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  93. Cheque d'Out says:

    Good point regarding slippers…Cold feet. I shall summon the other cat.


  94. Cill says:

    Glorified gangsters.

    Thugs… protection money… upping the ante… stacked deck… rigged game… the whole caboodle.

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  95. Ame says:

    hope you and yours remain safe, Molly.

    how are your babies?! 🙂

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  96. molly says:

    It’s over…. Peace.
    Hubby rang and he is safe and well. Ohhhhh I feel like I died and I live again. Shoosh!

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  97. Liz says:

    Very good to hear all is well, Molly! I hope you don’t get storms like that very often? 😦

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  98. molly says:

    Ame we are well thankyou ❤ And you Unca S!

    Hmmn. I must put on my thinking cap and make something very very special for my man.

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  99. molly says:

    Yes we do get savage storms. Thankyou Liz! Must go make some special dish for you know who.


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  100. Cheque d'Out says:

    Note the woolly, deceptive ‘reasoning’ at the end. It’ll be alright, the EU wouldn’t want to end up in the backstop forever either…bollocks. it’s part of a longer session where he admits what I said upthread. “It’s a shit deal but we should sign it and trust the EU”. Fuck that shit.


  101. Cheque d'Out says:

    Two bats hanging in a cave. One says, “I’m hungry. I’m off out to find something to eat.” Off he flapped and came back two minutes later with blood dripping from his fangs. The other bat said, “You’ve made me hungry now. Where did you go?” The first bat said, “Do you see that tree outside the cave?”. “Yeah,” replied the other bat. The first one said, “I fucking didn’t.”

    [Perhaps vegan he should have been]

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  102. Cheque d'Out says:


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  103. Cheque d'Out says:

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  104. You may think phrases like “bringing home the bacon” and “putting all your eggs in one basket” are harmless quirks of the English language, but they could be offending vegans and vegetarians, with one academic claiming they might end up being avoided altogether as a result.

    I always try to avoid vegans and vegetarians, but the brush guard is there for when I can’t be bothered.

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  105. Farm Boy says:

    Is May still in Argentina?

    Perhaps in exile?


  106. Farm Boy says:

    “he said girls are more aggressive than boys these days”

    Boys are mercilessly punished for that these days. What does one expect?

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  107. Farm Boy says:

    So women are just not as nice today. This probably plays havoc with chick to chick relationships. No doubt an amplifier of cattiness

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  108. Choicy says:

    Holy fuckeroo Molly swhen I factor in your looks on top of your other goods it stretches my brain to near losing it. Fair go mate it’s enough to restore a digger’s faith in humanity.or belief in the divine or something. Say gidday to the hubby and adorable youngster for me would yah and congratulations are in order?

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  109. Choicy says:

    Spawny good one mate. Blind as a bat.

    It’s time for this digger to hit the saddle. I will drop in on you jokers after work if it is not too late when I get back home.

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  110. Cill says:

    “the last day of posting is probably Monday 10th”

    #HopeSo too. Nothing would surprises me though. She wouldn’t still be there if it wasn’t for the support she gets from the crooked media. In every major aspect of western civilization, “progressive” lunatics are calling the shots. The situation is beyond surprises.

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  111. SFC Ton says:

    Line man is a no shit job. Last hurricane I drove through them and myself were the only folks on the road.

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  112. Farm Boy says:

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  113. Cheque d'Out says:

    Rather awkward, old bean. I think that he pointed out that you’re incompetent


  114. Cheque d'Out says:

    Pass the hankies will you please?

    Tom Newton Dunn is wetter than a haddock’s bathing costume, but I thank him for this.


  115. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:

    This isn’t really a surprise to anyone, is it?

    The EU and a lot of european countries have been heading in this direction for decades.


  116. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:

    I wonder what they’d think about “pig out!!” ?

    BTW, did you get the Apex spring kit?

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  117. Farm Boy says:

    Perhaps you’ve been wondering how you rate on the grievance scale and how much your “privilege” affects your ability to further the cause of progressivism interact with people who are not like you. I have good news for you: Help has arrived in the form of a handy-dandy calculator from


  118. Farm Boy says:

    Here is what they told me

    Your intersectionality score: 7

    You are more privileged than 86% of others!

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  119. Farm Boy says:

    I wonder what score Moe would have


  120. Ame says:

    since the ta-ta’s are a fav topic out here … i’ll share a little health info i learned today about them.

    i recently went to a natural health doc who does thermography and had an upper body thermography which included the breasts along with all major organs – it was very cool.

    anyway, i was in for some other testing today and discussed thermography with him. he told me he’s been doing this since the early 2000’s … like 2003 or 04 and that until the last several years women would come to him to verify cancer diagnoses. he showed me the difference between healthy and cancer stages, and it’s … well, apart from being tragic, it’s very evident even to my untrained eye. he said that the thermography always was 100% accurate matching mamograms regarding cancer or no cancer … UNTIL the last couple of years.

    in the last couple of years he’s suddenly seeing these women come to him with positive cancer mamograms but distinctly negative thermograms. he said it’s usually this one type of breast ‘cancer’ (no, i can’t remember – i’m terrible with things like that and it was a long name). he firmly believes these women are being given diagnoses on either false tests or on a percentage … like, they have a 5% chance of having this cancer. so they’re going thru chemo and radiation unnecessarily.

    then he told me that there is no longer a true 2nd opinion b/c of computers and ins companies sharing our info. he said that docs find out and they never go against the worst diagnosis b/c if they do then they’re liable. so if a doc gives you a bad diagnosis, you are unlikely to get another doc to go against it even if the first one is wrong.

    this doc who does thermography prefers to use it as a preventative tool … you can notice trends long before they’ll show up in labs or mamograms and make corrective health choices to prevent such from occuring. very cool stuff. of course … it’s not covered by insurance. insurance practically begs you to get all those diagnostic tests so much so i’m sure they’re getting kickbacks of some sort.

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  121. Farm Boy says:

    “Its lyrics raise some serious issues. The premise of the song, originally sung in the Disney film The Little Mermaid, is that the male Prince Eric, on a date with the beautiful female Ariel, should kiss her without asking for a single word to affirm her consent. Despite the fact that an evil sea-witch cursed Ariel’s voice away, making verbal consent impossible, the song is clearly problematic from the get-go,” Wollstein wrote.


  122. Ame says:

    i got a 26 … 68% are more privileged than i.

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  123. Liz says:

    Ame, this has been known for a while now. Here are a couple of links:

    One of the more interesting studies I’ve read I wasn’t able to find. Think it was Denmark.There were bodies exhumed from long before mammography was available, women who had died of non-cancer related causes late in age (80s or so). Nearly every one of them had the sort of tumors that would be diagnosed and treated as cancer by mammography today.

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  124. Liz says:

    That said, I would never tell anyone NOT to get a mammogram…it’s up to them. If breast cancer runs in the family, I think it’s wise. But if not, everyone should be aware of the facts.

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  125. Ame says:

    oh, i absolutely agree … and he encourages them, too. thermography is just one tool used to help manage your health.

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  126. Ame says:

    for me, personally … NOT giving anyone advice and am not a med professional of any kind … i’m very comfortable only getting thermograms unless something shows up in the thermography.

    the first thing he said to me after going over my thermography pics was that he didn’t see anything that necessitated him directing me to a medical doctor, which he would do immediately if he saw a need.

    he likes to use it as preventative b/c you can see things on there that won’t show up in routine med tests until it’s too late to intervene.

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  127. Ame says:

    he’s also a huge fan of setting them free – not wearing a bra unless necessary … advice with which my Husband whole heartedly agrees 😉

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  128. Ame says:

    btw – thermography is for both men and women. they even have full body scans. you just have to stand there nekkid while they take pics from a few feet away with a special camera. that’s all … oh, and keep your arms raised the whole time so they don’t touch your body b/c it measures heat 🙂


  129. Farm Boy says:

    Questions about consent loom after tech brothel auctions off robot’s virginity for $10K

    [Wonder if the boobs need to consent separately they do I do]


  130. Farm Boy says:

    A 69-year-old man from the Netherlands was told by a court that he could not legally lower his age by 20 years.

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  131. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:

    IPhone 6 or newer…


  132. Liz says:

    “Questions about consent loom after tech brothel auctions off robot’s virginity for $10K”

    If this takes off, imagine the possibilities….
    “I have here an ordinary tube sock for a buck. BUT, if anyone wants to take this tube sock’s virginity….it’s yours for 50 dollars!”
    and….over here, we have some ordinary couch pillows….

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  133. Farm Boy says:

    Consider the larger stakes here. For more than 100 years, European governments have built their invasive states, with the public sector controlling ever more of life. The promise of combining security and prosperity through state enhancement has failed to achieve its promise. And what does the political class propose? More government power, this time in the name of green energy.

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  134. BuenaVista says:

    I love (and played) Holst and I didn’t know the origin of the hymn. Thanks Spawny.

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  135. Farm Boy says:

    The picture features complaints from the Battlefield community who were frustrated by the “WW II game” featuring a bionic woman with a hook hand as the main protagonist in the trailer.

    “Feminism ruins everything, feminazies are trying to rewrite history,” one comment says.

    “Genderfield 5!” says another.

    One repeats “white men! white men! white men!” referencing the fact they ban people from saying “white men” in their in-game chat.

    The comments were superimposed next to a giant hashtag, #EveryonesBattlefield.

    EA’s stock has fallen 45 percent from its high in in July, with “negative sentiment surrounding the game maker in recent months” getting the blame.

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  136. Farm Boy says:

    On November 25, 2018, a summit meeting of the 27 remaining countries of the European Union approved the Brexit deal agreed with the UK’s Theresa May. At the end of the summit, President Macron gave a press conference in which he announced how he would abuse the deal to blackmail the UK, thereby making approval of the deal in the UK Parliament unthinkable.


  137. Farm Boy says:

    “The Christian cartoon ‘VeggieTales’ is racist because the villains are vegetables of color,” The College Fix reports the forum as saying.

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  138. Cheque d'Out says:

    You’re welcome BV. It was news to me too, not that I claim any expertise in such things.


  139. Farm Boy says:

    ”If men avoid working or traveling with women alone, or stop mentoring women for fear of being accused of sexual harassment,” he said, “those men are going to back out of a sexual harassment complaint and right into a sex discrimination complaint.”

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  140. Farm Boy says:

    The changes can be subtle but insidious, with a woman, say, excluded from casual after-work drinks, leaving male colleagues to bond, or having what should be a private meeting with a boss with the door left wide open.

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  141. Cheque d'Out says:


  142. SFC Ton says:

    Congress needs to impeach Trump. The Dems need to get their Clinton pay back and the anti elite sentiment that drove the Trump train needs stirred up. Frequently

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  143. Cheque d'Out says:

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  144. Cheque d'Out says:

    Ton, the UK may lead the way again. As we did with BREXIT. Because they’re not fucking listening and the EU court just opened the way to our Quisling politicians to just call off the entire process (withdraw Article 50). We shall see, but I doubt that it’s just a few people who will be upset.


  145. Cheque d'Out says:

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  146. Cheque d'Out says:

    They’ve done experiments on turkeys, I understand, where they looked for the minimal visual cues required to get a male turkey hot to trot. A female turkey head on a stick was all that was required.

    That inhabitant form the Uncanny Valley looks way over the top for what is probably required for men. It looks too freaky to me. WNB

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  147. Cheque d'Out says:

    Looks like Micron is going to back down on fuel tax gouges. Now…will that be sufficient, or was the tax merely the straw that broke the camel’s back?

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  148. Cheque d'Out says:


  149. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:

    “Perhaps you’ve been wondering how you rate on the grievance scale and how much your “privilege” affects your ability to further the cause of progressivism interact with people who are not like you.”

    Nope, couldn’t care less…

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  150. Choicy says:

    My intersectionality score is 10 which makes me more privileged than 84% of others. Not old age and not born in USA gave me a boost. Everyone knows young-ish Aussies get more systematic oppression and discrimination than old Americans mate.

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  151. Cheque d'Out says:

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  152. Cheque d'Out says:

    Being English is very tricky when it comes to that crap application. I mean, these days the Americans are clearly the most evil, but my nation’s history…tricky indeed. Or it’s tricky if you don’t see that our Empire did good as well as harm.

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  153. Cheque d'Out says:

    And where does ‘culturally Christian’ sit on the scale? I don’t do any god but have previously been told a few times that I am rather Christian in my attitudes and actions (outside church obviously).

    It’s all very tricky

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  154. earl says:

    I’m only 1% victim.

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  155. Cheque d'Out says:

    “I’m only 1% victim.”

    I, for one, welcome my new overlord. Unless I get some clarifications and I get a better score. I mean worse…I mean better…oh bollox.

    Not having a device to run that crap on must count for something?

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  156. earl says:

    ‘Questions about consent loom after tech brothel auctions off robot’s virginity for $10K’

    Perhaps this is my privilege speaking…but doesn’t consent involve the being having volition?

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  157. Farm Boy says:

    What if it identifies as having volition?

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  158. earl says:

    ”If men avoid working or traveling with women alone, or stop mentoring women for fear of being accused of sexual harassment,” he said, “those men are going to back out of a sexual harassment complaint and right into a sex discrimination complaint.”

    If my rock and hard place choices are a pervert or misogyinst…I’m taking misogynist 100 out of 100 times.

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  159. Liz says:

    From an old dusted off copy of Pimpin’

    Chapter 8 “Bangin’ Robotic Bitches!”

    Tyrone: “Your robot ho will tell you anything you want to hear. Your human ho will tell you anything she wants you to hear.”

    “Your human ho flops around in sweatpants and nurse shoes because “it’s comfortable.” Your robot ho struts around in leather boots and spandex askin’, “Are you comfortable?”

    “You come home late and drunk, your human ho gives you at least three tight questions and looks for holes in your story. You come home late and drunk and your robot ho gives you three tight holes and doesn’t even ask for your story!”

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  160. earl says:

    ‘That inhabitant form the Uncanny Valley looks way over the top for what is probably required for men. It looks too freaky to me.’

    Sad part is it’s hard to tell the difference between an over the top sex robot and an over the top woman with a dead soul. Looks very similar in the eyes.

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  161. earl says:

    The sun burns hotter when you hate brown skinned people.

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  162. Cheque d'Out says:

    A reference, clearly, to the 1938 Munich Agreement meeting that lead to the piece of paper held aloft by Neville Chamberlain

    And to the 1922 Committee of the tory party


  163. Cheque d'Out says:

    “Sad part is it’s hard to tell the difference between an over the top sex robot and an over the top woman with a dead soul. Looks very similar in the eyes.”

    Indeedy. Just how much less fake is a pop starlet these days?

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  164. Cheque d'Out says:

    “If my rock and hard place choices are a pervert or misogyinst…I’m taking misogynist 100 out of 100 times.”

    Obviously, I’m hoping that ‘misogyny’ doesn’t yet get one thrown in gaol? Yet.


  165. Liz says:

    That was a fun old thread….wonder what happened to Charlotte Proudman.
    Perhaps she’s over here, writing speeches for the OC.


  166. Liz says:

    “The Dumbest Person Ever Elected to Public Office” Cortez insists stopping climate change will end racism”

    Everything is trivial compared to the problem of racism. Mass murder? Theft? Suspension of basic civil liberties?
    HAH! Child’s play compared to anyone expressing a thought that might be interpreted as racist.

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  167. Moehau Man says:

    Yes well, me intersectionality score is 43. The questions had me scratching me brow ridge at times. For questions like “White > Person of Colour” and “English First Language > English Second Language” and “More Educated > Less Educated” the Moehau Man needs a “None of the Above” option.

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  168. Cheque d'Out says:


  169. Cheque d'Out says:

    Ooh la la! l’amour, toujours l’amour

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  170. earl says:

    All the bad things in life happen because of racism and sexism. Now if you’ll excuse me I have white men I need to hate on.


  171. Since everyone knows that the villain roles are actually often the best roles to play, the BFI (ha!, ha!) are now discriminating against people with facial scars by forbidding them to play some of the best parts?

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  172. Ame says:

    whew! had an appt this morning to begin a new (and critical) process with my Aspie Girl. it went well … and it’s over 🙂 … now to wait up to five months for them to process it all, but my part is done. whew. this stuff is stressful. now to de-stress 😉

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  173. Farm Boy says:

    The surprising gains for the Vox Party mark the latest in a wave of right-wing sentiment that has swept across Europe in recent months.

    Political polls had predicted Vox might win as many as five seats in the southern region of Andalusia. However, as of Sunday night, with 99 percent of votes counted, the once-derided party had snagged more than twice that number — 12 seats in the 109-member parliament

    “Now is the moment to say loud and clear who we are and that we have come to stay,” Vox candidate Francisco Serrano told a crowd of supporters who chanted “Spain! Spain! Spain!”


  174. Farm Boy says:

    One item of proof that most feminist groups don’t really want an ERA is their reaction to Proposition 209. When that initiative came before California voters in 1996, feminist groups fought it tooth and nail even though it would have required the State of California to refrain from discrimination or preferential treatment based on sex in public education, public employment and public contracting. If they really had been serious about equal rights (as opposed to equal results) they’d have been pleased.


  175. Farm Boy says:

    A majority of “non-citizens,” including those with legal green card rights, are tapping into welfare programs set up to help poor and ailing Americans, a Census Bureau finding that bolsters President Trump’s concern about immigrants costing the nation.

    In a new analysis of the latest numbers, from 2014, 63 percent of non-citizens are using a welfare program, and it grows to 70 percent for those here 10 years or more, confirming another concern that once immigrants tap into welfare, they don’t get off it.

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  176. Farm Boy says:

    Maybury says that her client list is exclusively “white right-wing men” because she is unable to be “even fictionally cruel to any other type of man.” These men come to Maybury to indulge in their fantasy of “serving a powerful woman.” So, in a sense, they are “imposing their pleasure” on her by paying her to indulge their sexual fantasies. But maybe not, because that would be oppressive. But maybe yes, because that’s exactly what they’re doing. But shhh, because this is the “pleasure revolution,” yay women.

    Maybury says that she derives her sexual pleasure from “forcing those men to see the contradiction between their love of powerful women and their support for political parties that actively work to limit women’s rights and empowerment.”


  177. Farm Boy says:

    Two months ago at the Lesbians Who Tech Summit in New York City, when the host asked guest Hillary Clinton what to do about “this problem for women, black, and Latinx people in technology,” Clinton said nothing about the nature of the problem. She didn’t have to. Silicon Valley has too many white and Asian men, and we solve it by getting more women and persons of color in place—that’s all.

    What happens after that proper balance is achieved we don’t even have to discuss. We’ve reached diversity—mission accomplished!


  178. Farm Boy says:

    She followed that tweet with another describing her own salary of $174,000 as a “living wage” and calling on Congress to right this injustice, which she suggested was the Republicans’ fault.


  179. Cheque d'Out says:

    Just had the vote. For the first time in British Parliamentary history, the government has been found to be in contempt of Parliament. May is in the shit. They will be releasing the ‘secret’ legal advice to the government to the public. Which will make plain that her deal is SHIT and treachery…is my guess.

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  180. Farm Boy says:

    In the Bill Clinton tradition, he has a point

    I think I’m the most qualified person in the country to be president.

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  181. Cheque d'Out says:


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  182. Farm Boy says:



  183. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:

    Seems more like what Obama was doing to our country…


  184. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:

    Hey, I am an ordained minister. Can I have a reality show too?


  185. Cheque d'Out says:


  186. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:



  187. Farm Boy says:

    Kaufman concluded that men need to step up and “not let fear be a barrier.”

    But belittling men’s real concerns avoids the underlying issues entirely, and is not helpful for women.

    This backlash in the workplace was repeatedly prophesied by #MeToo skeptics, who were quickly slammed as misogynists and pro-sexual assault. Instead, the sex panic fomented by feminists was entirely ignored

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  188. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:

    What a miserable cunt


  189. Cheque d'Out says:

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  190. Cheque d'Out says:


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  191. Cheque d'Out says:

    Egging of politicians is a great tradition

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  192. earl says:

    ‘In the Bill Clinton tradition, he has a point’

    Yeah both are pedos….(allegedly).


  193. Cheque d'Out says:


  194. Cheque d'Out says:


  195. earl says:

    Ladies and gentlemen…I think I found the most accurate photo of a white knight.

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  196. Make the sword a soy latte and I think you’ve nailed it.

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  197. earl says:

    She would of made a great Monty Python skit.

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  198. “Just the tip. I promise”


  199. Exactly. Just say no to crime. With a loud BANG!


  200. Liz says:

    Somber post, this. Mike just called and an enlisted tech sgt we know from the last assignment isn’t doing well. He had his clearance revoked for something minor he did before he was in service…they gave him a clearance for several years (it’s necessary to do his job) and then revoked it arbitrarily. He contested it, and lost. He signed on for several more years and took the bonus money, which he will have to give back if fired (it’s invested in a house, in a very bad market right now). His (live in) girlfriend left and is going to sue him for 5,000 dollars in furniture they shared. He has no idea what he is going to do if he’s fired, because the type of training he has, though extremely important to that specific job, won’t really help him in the job market.
    At present, we’re just sort of worried this guy is going to hurt himself…Mike contacted the Chief.
    But beyond that….just asking you smart folks at Spawny’s space, do you have any advice/ideas for him as far as job opportunities on the outside? I don’t know how old he is, I’d guess late 20s.


  201. SFC Ton says:

    Crane technician

    The guy who comes by my shop does 6 figures plus on about 52 hours a week. The other guy has 1 year in the bidness and is knocking back 75k a year, with over time. They always need men who have clean driving records, who can pass a piss test and ain’t scart of heights.

    Plus they do some cool shit

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  202. SFC Ton says:

    One of the things I had to learn about when i got out is all the bad are ways blue collar dudes make bank. Cranes these days are fairly high tech, with VFD’s and PLC’s, a manly amount of risk and hardship to over come and a legit ass paycheck. Least wise for us. 75k a year is a fine living in rural and eastern NC. High end of middle class, low end of upper middle class etc etc income

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  203. BuenaVista says:

    Broadly, what is his current skill set?

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  204. Farm Boy says:

    In any case, Ocasio-Cortez’ most startling admission came next. “And it’s inevitable that we can use the transition to 100% renewable energy as the vehicle to truly deliver and establish economic, social, and racial justice in the United States of America. That is our proposal and that is what we are here to do,” she said.


  205. Liz says:

    He’s a maintainer for the planes, but not the type of maintainer work that is transferable to civilian planes (sorry to be so vague).
    I copied and sent that to Mike thanks so much, Ton!
    (he texted back, “Great. Thanks!”)

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  206. Cheque d'Out says:

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  207. SFC Ton says:

    My guy siad probaaly $24-$26 an hour, starting pay for Eastern NC.

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  208. SFC Ton says:

    So he does armament or targeting shit

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  209. Cheque d'Out says:

    Sue him for furniture? Tell her to fetch a truck and take half the frigging furniture, she probably picked the shit in the first place. Then get an Inflatable bed, patio table and chairs…like he’s going to care about living like that.

    Make sure that he knows he’ll come through it, it’s all temporary shit. He needs a dose of idgaf to see him through.

    A post at Ton’s place that the guys (not you) can pile on might help? Or someone ask Dalrock to help out? I’d have no trouble if it were here, I’m thinking of you.

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  210. earl says:

    ‘ Macron’s days in power could be numbered.’

    Guess he’ll have to cut his trips to see the black men in the Caribbean short.

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  211. Cheque d'Out says:

    That’s a no messing, you’re on a promise tonight look right there

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  212. Liz says:

    ‘Make sure that he knows he’ll come through it, it’s all temporary shit. He needs a dose of idgaf to see him through.”

    You’re right, of course…but it’s such a let down right now (the girl is just the top layer of crap on the crap pie I’m sure), Mike just wants to try and offer him hope.
    He was very set on continuing in the military, a good dude (with a hard life backstory).
    We’re very worried about him. Told him he can stay here for a while if he wants. Change of scenery might help too.

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  213. Cheque d'Out says:

    If this blog can help, just let us know how…

    Liked by 2 people

  214. SFC Ton says:

    If he’s out bad his whole skill set would be useless since he won’t have the clearance

    But out how bad? Will he keep his gi bill and what not?

    Opsec is important but not much advice to give with so little intell

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  215. Liz says:

    I know it isn’t much to go on, Ton.
    Sorry to be so vague, it’s just a really small field and…yeah, his skill set is useless without the clearance.
    I know he was getting his four year degree, not sure if he’s finished. I’ll try to get more info…
    Thanks a million again.


  216. Larry G says:

    Liz, a couple of questions? How old is this man? And is he willing to look outside of the box as far as vocation training?


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