Does The Truth Matter?

From here,

In the following decades, the neo-Marxist “social justice” ideology and movement flowered. Our society is condemned in universities for being racist, sexist, homophobic, Islamophobic, and oppressive. To correct this, professors and administrators advocate for programs benefitting the “victims of oppression,” that is, females, people of color, gays—lesbian—transsexuals, etc., and Muslims, such as preferential admission for student applicants, separate housing, eating, and support facilities, special ceremonies, and preferential hiring as professors and administrators. The disfavored “oppressors,” males, people of white, heterosexuals, and Christians are to be marginalized and sidelined, certainly not to receive any benefits or opportunities. (Asians are now honorary whites because they have worked too hard and are too successful, so they too are condemned and discriminated against.)

The rejection of Truth and of evidence has now made its way into university administrations. Disciplinary tribunals have now accepted that “everyone has their own truth,” and they accept the “truths” of the oppressed victims and dispense with “evidence” that might be presented on behalf of accused “oppressors.” This rejection of Truth and evidence has diffused far beyond universities, to businesses, funding agencies, Government Agencies, and Departments of Education, and has now made its way to the U.S. Senate in the Kavanaugh hearings. What someone did or did not do is no longer important; the only thing that is important in universities and beyond is what category someone belongs to. After all, that is the only way that “social justice” is enforced.

Does the truth matter?  With respect to these people, the short answer is NO.  Which is seemingly odd, as these people claim to seek out the truth, wherever it might lead.

Let us consider the current truth,

Men and women are the same except for some different plumbing.

There is absolutely no difference between the brains of men and women.

Women are more moral.

Women have always been oppressed by men, who lived the high life as a result

Individual freedom is what important, what matters to present/future children is irrelevant

White men excel because of privilege at every point in their life, not because they have testosterone and are taught not to do stupid stuff.

Women enjoy sex in the same way as men do

Women are paid less than men

Please feel free to add your own.

People who look at the actual world know that these assertions are bunk.

British writer Theodore Dalrymple states,

In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is…in some small way to become evil oneself. One’s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and h intended to.”

Is all of this a source of MGTOW?  Might be.  Discuss.


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199 comments on “Does The Truth Matter?
  1. BuenaVista says:

    OT. Interesting film of a Swissair A340 that loses an engine. The interplay with the FO’s is called Cockpit Resource Management (CRM), and that is very interesting. The title is misleadng because the captain explicitly declines to declare an emergency and says “Pan Pan Pan” which is an archaism from the early days that means,” I have a problem pay attention help out but I’m not declaring.”

    This channel has a lot of Euro big ship videos that manage to make flying a transport romantic.


  2. BuenaVista says:

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  3. BuenaVista says:

    About 12-15 years ago an economist who survived the Soviet era, and served two terms as president of the Czech Republic, published an essay in the FT. The essay eviscerated the bad science, math and political pretensions of the global warming scam. It was the first such disavowal I saw on a global platform.

    The essence of his argument was that he had lived through the tyranny of rote, compelled speech under the Soviets. He was an economist and knew what can, and cannot be shown numerically (i.e., objectively). What we today call PC-diminished speech and freedom, he simply called the tyranny of a totalitarian ideology — because he had lived 46 years under such an ideology.

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  4. BuenaVista says:

    Sorry. Name: Vaclav Klaus.

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  5. SFC Ton says:

    The truth does not matter

    Thinking otherwise is why the keeps winning and “right” keeps loosing

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  6. Farm Boy says:

    It is true that the left and the truth are like oil and water.

    Perhaps Choicy can describe it in some of his colorful language

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  7. Ame says:

    that was really interesting, BV


  8. honeycomb says:

    The SWISSAIR accident ..

    Once again .. another reason I NEVER fly on foreign air-carriers.

    As a pilot you have approximately 6 to 12 minutes from the first indication of fire to be on the ground.

    They bypassed a suitable landing site because they didn’t have maintenance at that airport.

    The Capt made a very bad decision. And followed it with other bad decisions.

    In the US (Air Carrier) Flag Fleet .. to my knowledge .. any indication of fire .. no matter how brief must be treated as a fire .. period .. end of story .. and if you can’t disprove it you continue your descent to your new divert airport.

    [As a side note 3 people can declare an emergency .. the Capt .. ATC .. or your Dispatcher. Once declared it remains in effect till the flight ends.]

    The US Flag Cargo Air Carriers have had a large number of fires over the years you never here about .. with complete hull losses. But they acted with a sense of urgency to get on the ground to save the crew .. any pax’s and cargo onboard. I’ve watched FedEx pilots land at MEM .. leave the runway on fire .. and instead of evacuate .. start throwing boxes off the airplane.

    It doesn’t make the national / international news because there are no paying pax’s (company folks can ride / non-rev though).

    Plus .. Halifax is a horrible divert .. especially if you miss the airport .. even by 100 yards. It is a waste-land of horror for a forced landing if you don’t make the airport.

    Ask me how I know .. and ALL international aircrews (should) know this too.

    He failed the most basic rule as Captain (never let someone else act as Captain .. YOU are responsible for the lives of everyone onboard .. you can’t ditch that responsonility .. so grow a pair and act like the Capt!). Shame on them .. VERY BAD CRM (not cockpit resource management .. COMPANY resource management) usage.

    I’ll tell the company where I’m parking the airplane .. if they want to be Capt .. I can recommend a good flight school .. he was the Capt and he allowed someone else to make command decisions .. iirc.

    Shame on any company that acts as the Capt .. “there can only be one” .. and he failed his one job.


  9. honeycomb says:

    Disreagrd last .. wrong swissair flight ..



  10. SFC Ton says:

    foreign aircrew taught me to stop respecting pilots and start respecting the nerds who build complex airplanes in such a way retards can operate them safely…. safe enough….ish….


  11. Ame says:

    do all flights have cameras like that in the cockpit?


  12. You can’t make good decisions without good intelligence and the truth is the best intelligence you can have.

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  13. honeycomb says:

    AME ..

    Camera’s .. NO .. not unless they brought their own.

    Simulators .. YES .. we can sync voice .. all flight data .. and video in the post flight debriefing.

    There has been a push to install them like DV(F)R’s already in use .. but not to my knowledge (re: used on commercial flights).

    Ton .. if it took superman to fly these things .. none would fly.

    But .. having said that .. I hate Airbus products. I love Boeing products.

    Two very different (geeky) philosophies.

    Airbus thinks pilots are idiots and super-computers are better at deciding what systems operate and what don’t.

    Boeing sez pilots are the best determiners of what should work and when ..if the pilot wants it .. he can have it.

    In Airbus .. OFF doesn’t mean off .. AUTO doesn’t mean auto .. MAN doesn’t mean manual.

    In Boeing aircraft .. OFF means off .. AUTO means auto .. ON or MAN means ON or Manual.

    I don’t like 26 computers talkimg to 2 super-computers and deciding what syatems operate and how. Think this ..

    This was the teat pilot and he wanted to go-around as part of the demostration .. and the airplane wanted to land .. verdict .. no winners.

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  14. honeycomb says:

    I flew A320 (series) a long time ago .. I’ve also flown the DC-9, B737, ATR42/72 and EMB130/145 at the airlines.

    And though I haven’t flown one in many years (over 16) .. I still think it was the biggest piece of chit I’ve flown at the airlines.

    And that’s saying something .. because that honor should’ve went to EMB .. it to is a steaming pile of pooo.

    The best airliners I’ve flown have been the B737 and ATR42/72 fleets. Truly exceptional aircraft. The ATR 72-500 series is a sweet ride. To bad the regional industry moved away from turbo-props.


  15. honeycomb says:

    I missed the CRJ200 series after I got furloughed from the Red-Tail.

    It was ok .. no complaints.


  16. SFC Ton says:

    Stumbling drunk Russians can fly busted up Russian helicopters across Africa and get us all home

    It’s the engineers


  17. BuenaVista says:

    HC, your Halifax reference is to the flight that burned up in a slow descent to Nova Scotia?

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  18. honeycomb says:

    BV .. yes.

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  19. BuenaVista says:

    HC, in the subject video they have an engine oil temp anomaly, no indicated fire.


  20. honeycomb says:

    Ton ..

    Quick story ..

    Took a flight out of Russia years ago on one of their top airlines.

    They didn’t have metal detectors so they took a hotel dumb-waiter and taped an electrical cord to it .. not plugged in .. and had people step through it like it was a metal detector.

    They had bungee hammocks in the overhead bins .. I watched a family put their toddler in one .. and I had a live animal as a seat mate on my row.

    It had no anti-roll bars under the seats. So on take-off everything roles aft .. and on landing it returned to the forward end of the cabin. Everyone just picks up their feet so as to not get hit by those floor missiles.

    The pilots I’m told were having a beer before the flight. Which is normal for them .. I lived .. and it was an experience.

    So many Russian stories .. so little time.

    I should tell yenz’ about the Concord flight I got everyone running for the exit just before departure. My dad doesn’t let me live it down either. What a hoot.

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  21. honeycomb says:

    BV ..

    My bad .. I watched it after I responded.

    That’s on me brother. I jumped the gun.

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  22. Ame says:

    So many Russian stories .. so little time.

    i’ll take the time to read them 🙂

    I should tell yenz’ about the Concord flight I got everyone running for the exit just before departure. My dad doesn’t let me live it down either. What a hoot.

    oh, please do tell!


  23. honeycomb says:

    The truth is .. you are being watched .. and identified ..

    Act accordingly ..


  24. Ame says:

    that’s creepy.

    makes me wonder where this will all end … like the tower of babel.


  25. honeycomb says:

    I’ve had exactly 2 flights on the Concord.

    This was my second .. it originated in the UK.

    The briefings used to be done before door closure. Because the concord is fuel critical at engine start.

    During the briefing .. (I’m in my Pilot Uniform) .. the flight attendants demoed the O2 mask for a depressurization. I looked around and everyone was paying attention .. like this would save their life.

    All I could do was laugh so hard that everyone stopped and began looking at me .. I felt obligated to inform them that in the event of a rapid depressurization .. we would not be reaching for a mask. We would be boiling to death.

    The concord is a small cabin. Let’s just say that a large number of passemgers thought about taking the slow boat to America.

    You see .. at the altitudes (and route) we were gonna fly we would be above the “Armstrong Layer (or limit)” [1].

    Death was an option they hadn’t envisioned.

    My dad didn’t think it was funny.

    [1] ..

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  26. Ame says:

    Honeycomb … the eternal optimist who uplifts the spirits of those around him 😉

    My dad didn’t think it was funny.

    i guess he doesn’t share your sense of humor 🙂

    that would be a long flight to consider the whole time one’s demise.


  27. honeycomb says:

    i guess he doesn’t share your sense of humor 🙂

    Oh .. he’s like me .. a wise azz .. I got it honest .. I promise.

    He just didn’t think it was funny .. because .. he didn’t think of it .. heh ..

    To be fair .. he wasn’t on the flight so .. he probably would’ve gotten a chuckle out of it if he had been.

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  28. The Truth matters but somewhere along the way Truth got redefined as feels and then truth was no longer a true North but more of a a subjective experience. If it feels right, do it! (Not a good idea btw.)

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  29. Adam says:

    Disciplinary tribunals have now accepted that “everyone has their own truth,”

    And step forward Jordan Peterson, the great fraud himself as he proclaims that the word truth has no inherent meaning.

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  30. Ame says:


    i imagine y’all having great times together 🙂


  31. Farm Boy says:

    Cockburn, a former journalist and first-time candidate, made headlines over the summer for statements she made about her opponent being a fan of “bigfoot erotica.”

    Riggleman, meanwhile, tried to draw attention to Cockburn’s writing career — and at one point dubbed her “Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in a scarf.

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  32. RichardP says:

    @Adam said: …he proclaims that the word truth has no inherent meaning.

    No word has inherent meaning. Words were created to serve our purposes, not the other way around.

    Thus, the cliche: “Words don’t mean; people mean.” And this other one (paraphrased): “Without a group of words with commonly-accepted meanings, communication is impossible”.

    I’ve spent some time over the years in discussions such as these. What is the definition of truth, reality, evidence, etc.? You can get a sense of the tremendous scope of the discussion surrounding these words by looking each up in Wikipedia.

    The fallout of my discussions of these concepts was that I came to this conclusion: the questions “what is truth?” “what is reality?” “what is evidence?” are all basically irrelevant questions.

    The only thing in my life that matters, with regard to this discussion, is can I rely on it?. I don’t care what you call it. If I can rely on it, I can do something with it. I can create babies, I can build machines to help build shelter and grow and harvest food for my community. I can build machines that will reach the moon.

    Who cares what you call it. If you can rely on it, you can build a family, a community, a tribe, a nation, and you can at least reach the moon, if not the stars yet.

    So – Can I Rely On It? trumps Is It True? as a fundamental question asked by folks interested in the concept of “git er done”.

    This link is a good, brief overview of the subject. This American folk rhyme adapted by William Cole starts it off:

    “Foolish Questions” (William Cole)

    Where can a man buy a cap for his knee?
    Or a key for a lock of his hair?
    Can your eyes be called an academy
    Because there are pupils there?
    In the crown of your head, what jewels are found?
    Who travels the bridge of your nose?
    Could you use in shingling the roof of your mouth
    The nails on the end of your toes?
    Could the crook in your elbow be sent to jail?
    If so, what did he do?
    How can you sharpen your shoulder blades?
    I’ll be darned if I know, do you?
    Can you sit in the shade of the palm of your hand
    And play on the drum of your ear?
    Do the calves of our legs eat the corn on our toes?
    Then why does it grow on the ear?
    Can the calf of his leg eat the corn on his toe?—
    There’s somethin’ pretty strange around here.

    According to the Oxford Dictionary, the 500 most used words in the English language have at least 14,070 different definitions. This is an average of 28 meanings per word. So, it shouldn’t come as a surprise that our communication attempts sometimes fail because of misconceptions and ambiguity. We need to have clear and precise concepts connected to our terms in order to design reliable termbases and glossaries.

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  33. Cheque d'Out says:

    Don’t be allarmed. Alpaca da car so everyone’s comfy


  34. Liz says:

    The Devil and his friend were walking down a country path discussing this and that.
    At a certain point they saw a person far up ahead bend down and pick up something.
    What he found clearly delighted him immensely and he danced and yelled with joy.
    The friend asked the Devil, “I wonder what he discovered that has made him so happy?”
    The Devil smiled and replied – “He has found The Truth”.
    The surprised friend then asked, “since you are the Prince of Lies isn’t that going to create a problem for you?”
    “Not at all” said the Devil, chuckling as he strode rapidly toward the stranger, “I’m going to help him organize it”.

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  35. Liz says:

    “So many Russian stories .. so little time.”
    I had a friend who did some sort of pilot exchange program with Russia, back sometime in the 90s soon after the cold war ended. It was just a short stay, maybe a week (if memory serves…been a long time since I heard the story).
    He said the stews served them a lot of hard liquor before the flight (it was early morning…around nine AM). They were completely sloshed by takeoff time. Drink cart at the front of the plane didn’t seem to have brakes as it rolled all the way down the aisle and crashed loudly at the back of the plane when they took off.

    When Mike went on a deployment to the Czech Republic, base commander tried to sell him a MiG.

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  36. SFC Ton says:

    Once again The Ton called the large scale election results

    People voted for Trump, not the anti White and even progressive then Trump GOP.

    The dems won a small majority, and a lot of them new dem congress critters lied their asses off about what they support/ dont support so they can’t go full Maxine Waters and expect to win again in 2 years, especially when Trump is back on the ballot and a lot of folks can just pull the R lever and walk the fuck out

    No blue wave etc etc but maybe a good wake up call.

    And not a large enough majority for the stupid party to really call that a win

    Soooooo stalemate.

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  37. SFC Ton says:

    Legit Headhunter.

    A man should knows what’s up at boith the tactical and strategic levels. However a man who thinks the truth counts for much doesn’t know the truth about human nature. People, yes even men, are emotional beings and operate on emotion most of the time. Soft power ie the ablity to motivate people rules the world and motivation is an emotional response to whatever stimuli

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  38. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:

    Intellectually, the truth matters. Emotionally, the truth is what you can get people to believe, whether it is accurate or not.

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  39. Cheque d'Out says:

    I hope that you sexist pigs are happy now

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  40. Farm Boy says:

    The left has painted all men with a broad paintbrush soaked in the evil of some. If unchecked, the left’s normalization of hatred runs the risk of destroying our nation.

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  41. Liz says:

    Trump and Hillary walk into a bakery, while on the campaign trail.
    As soon as they enter, Hillary steals three pastries and puts them in her pocket.
    She says to Trump, “See how clever I am? The owner didn’t see anything and I don’t even need to lie. I will definitely win the election.”
    Trump says to Hillary, “That’s the typical dishonesty you have displayed throughout your entire life–trickery and deceit. I am going to show you an honest way to get the same result.”
    Trump goes to the owner of the bakery and says, “Give me a pastry and I will show you a magic trick.”
    Intrigued, the owner accepts and gives him a pastry.
    Trump swallows it and asks for another one. The owner gives him another one. Then Donald asks for a third pastry and eats that, too.
    The Bakery owner is starting to wonder where the magic trick is and asks, “What did you do with the pastries?”
    Trump replies, “Look in Hillary’s pocket”…”

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  42. Farm Boy says:

    Predictably, the LGBTQBSLMAO community embraced the latest movement. So did feminists. For decades, the Lysenko-feminists proclaimed that sex is a social construct, not genetic, not biological, that culture determines gender. Sex is arbitrarily assigned at birth. Sexuality is, therefore, fluid and can be changed like one’s shirt. Jim Goad’s retort is perfect: “It never seems to occur to these dolts that culture is an expression of biology.”

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  43. Liz says:

    “Intellectually, the truth matters. Emotionally, the truth is what you can get people to believe, whether it is accurate or not.”

    Truth (goes it’s safe to call the truth “facts”?) can get you killed. They’re really important. But people rarely use facts when making emotional decisions. And most human decisions are emotional.


  44. Cheque d'Out says:

    Dead Brothel Owner Defeats Democrat Opponent for State Assembly Seat
    A Nevada brothel owner and reality TV star who died last month after labeling himself a Donald Trump-style Republican candidate has won a heavily GOP state legislative district.

    Dennis Hof, who ran the Bunny Ranch, defeated Democratic educator Lesia Romanov on Tuesday in the race for Nevada’s 36th Assembly District.

    The area includes rural communities and large stretches of desert in the southern part of the state. County officials will appoint a Republican to take his place in the seat.

    Hof was found dead Oct. 16 after a weekend of parties celebrating his 72nd birthday. Officials are still determining his cause of death, but they don’t suspect foul play.

    If they test him, I’m sure they’ll find that he’s still smarter and saner than Pelosi and Waters

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  45. Florida’s next governor looks like he’s married to a Real Housewives of Miami-type.


  46. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:

    I made a real effort, and watched the most recent episode on IPTV, and it was painful to watch. The plot was mediocre, and the show seemed to rely too heavily on camera shots instead of dialogue. JW just lacks the energy of MS, DT, and even CE. And the “companions” are just lame.

    They need a new lead, showrunner, and writers.


  47. Farm Boy says:

    My major takeaway from last night’s election was that Americans voted for fairness and against sweeping movements like #MeToo that seek to paint all men as predators. Why? Look at the losers of last night’s Senate race (and the only winner) :

    So every Dem Senator in a competitive race who voted against Kavanaugh lost (Donnelly, Heitkamp, McCaskill, and almost certainly Nelson), and the one who voted for Kavanaugh survived (Manchin). Coincidence?

    — Tom Bevan (@TomBevanRCP) November 7, 2018

    I think it speaks volumes about the American people that they didn’t like the way Democrats smeared a man without proof and so easily. Maybe next time, they will think before attempting to ruin a man’s life without forethought. Nah…

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  48. Farm Boy says:

    At Colorado State University (CSU), administrators have designated the common greeting “long time, no see” as non-inclusive language.


  49. thedeti says:

    With a new House in control of Dems, here’s what we have to look forward to.

    1) First order of business will be articles of impeachment against the God-Emperor. Doesn’t matter what for. Russia. Stormy Daniels. Lying about Russia and Stormy Daniels. Being unlikeable. Being Donald Trump. Defeating Hillary. He will be impeached. Some moderate Repubs will vote for it. He will be acquitted in the Senate.

    2) Second order of business will be articles of impeachment against Justice Kavanaugh, for alleged lying under oath during his confirmation hearings. Dems, and a lot of alleged moderates, are convinced he lied under oath and is still lying. Look for House Dems to attempt impeachment against him.

    3) Any attempt to defund Obamacare is dead in the water. Any attempt to rein in spending is dead in the water. (revenue bills and budget approvals originate in the House.)

    4) Never-ending investigations against Trump. His administration will be buried in subpoenas and witness statements. Look for more resignations and more prosecutions to follow.

    [So evil unleashed it is]


  50. Liz says:

    “At Colorado State University (CSU), administrators have designated the common greeting “long time, no see” as non-inclusive language.”

    Gosh…Imagine what they’d think of “see ya later, alligator”. 😆

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  51. “Haven’t seen you in a coon’s age,” is still good though, right? Right?!?!

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  52. “Via con Dios?”

    “Month of Sundays?”

    “Since the Jews killed Jesus?”

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  53. Liz says:

    Scott Adams is of the opinion that what happened with this election is the best thing that could have happened for Trump. This is from last night, before the count was over (really wish he’d go back to writing instead of all video but unfortunately this is it):

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  54. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:

    Just how much must you suck, to lose to a dead person?

    Liked by 3 people

  55. Farm Boy says:

    The Democrats’ 2018 election campaign is being aided by illegal immigrants, including the younger migrants who received the quasi-legal DACA amnesty from President Barack Obama.

    DACA recipients “have talked to more than 600K voters!” according to a Tweet from Cristina Jimenez, an Ecuador-born migrant who is a co-founder of the United We Dream, a pro-amnesty group of illegals created by progressive lawyers and union organizers


  56. Farm Boy says:

    Just how much must you suck, to lose to a dead person?

    Well, Florida Democratic Gubernatorial candidate Gillum needed Obama to convince his mom to vote for him.

    I am not sure which is worse

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  57. thedeti says:

    who lost to a dead person?

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  58. RichardP says:

    Alpaca da car so everyone’s comfy


    @Liz – did you get that their problem with “long time no see” is that it sounds like oriental speaking english? Don’t think “see ya later alligator” has that same problem.

    “month of somedays” That term should enter the language. I know some folks to whom it applies.


  59. Liz says:

    “@Liz – did you get that their problem with “long time no see” is that it sounds like oriental speaking english? Don’t think “see ya later alligator” has that same problem.”

    Well….the term was “non-inclusive”. Which…alligators also are not.
    Stab at levity, dat.


  60. Scott, what are the things that MOST people (let’s go with 75% of actual U.S. citizens) want to get done? Name one thing that people on either side agree should be done and how to do it.


  61. Yoda says:

    did you get that their problem with “long time no see” is that it sounds like oriental speaking english?

    Care when people imitate me I do not.

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  62. Yoda says:

    Gratuitous this is


  63. I have no idea how they were able to keep straight faces while filming some of those scenes…

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  64. Cill says:

    I know the truth. I know a fact when I see one.

    A fact is something that goes around the ocean floor collecting shark farts for the bubbles in spirit levels. That is a fact.

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  65. Cill says:

    But of course you’ve all heard that one. Everyone knows that’s a fact.

    Liked by 1 person

  66. Cill says:

    I manhandle my girlfriend’s beeps. That’s another fact right there.

    Liked by 2 people

  67. Cill says:

    Another fact: she has pneumatic beeps. I dare anyone to challenge that one.


  68. Liz says:

    LOL Cill. 😆
    Pneumatic beeps?!?
    Don’t manhandle them too much. 🙂

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  69. Cill says:

    She thinks it’s funny. Laugh lightnin’. Flash yer teeth.

    [Cill edit: I’m talking about my girlfriend who is reading this]

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  70. Cill says:

    Man, I’ve given her heaps of reasons to go #MeToo on me…

    Liked by 2 people

  71. Liz says:

    [Cill edit: I’m talking about my girlfriend who is reading this]

    Heh, I assumed. 🙂

    Liked by 2 people

  72. Cill says:

    She could #MeToo me to hell and back. I’ll prove it with another fact. Right now.

    Liked by 2 people

  73. Cill says:

    Man, that was quick.


  74. Cill says:

    “Don’t manhandle them too much”??

    You betcha I will.

    Liked by 3 people

  75. Yoda says:

    For Cill’s main squeeze this is

    Liked by 2 people

  76. Ame says:

    LOL, Cill!


  77. Stephanie says:

    Having the hardest time reading this blog in reader and liking comments so this is a test…

    Just accidentally hit the follow button (which UN-followed me since I’m already following) and then had to hit it again. Sorry Spawny peeps if you’re getting tons of clicks and re-liking things :O … maybe it didn’t even go through since our internet is acting so slow….

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  78. Stephanie says:

    Oh.. well at least comments work LOL 😛


  79. Stephanie says:

    Not sure how that posted… it sent me a “Comment Submission Failure” message!

    Does the truth matter to wordpress LOL?

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  80. Larry G says:

    “Not sure how that posted… it sent me a “Comment Submission Failure” message!”

    Were you typing something? Came out like $^&@@#%$(&)!{}>*&

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  81. Larry G says:

    Just got a new error message…..”Stephanie is nos just soooooooo banned from the Internet for 5 minutes, the nerve blaming the shitty connection on her HOLY ISP! tsk, tsk..”

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  82. Cheque d’Out and Farm Boy, good day gentlemen. Good day Ton. I trust you are well. My observation is the truth hurts. Feminism is all lies because the truth can hurt. Men can take more pain than women.

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  83. Stephanie says:

    “He will be impeached. Some moderate Repubs will vote for it. He will be acquitted in the Senate.”

    Hopefully this won’t happen. I’d give up allll the internets to have Trump stay and get re-elected!

    Liked by 2 people

  84. Stephanie says:

    It won’t even let me “like” your comment Larry (sad LOL)

    Liked by 3 people

  85. hahahaha look at that. The boss makes me laugh. Kia ora brothers.

    Liked by 2 people

  86. Stephanie says:

    LOL… actual footage of Ton’s SJW pussy mad at video game….

    Liked by 1 person

  87. Liz says:

    Hey, you posted that link before Ton. I “liked” it earlier. 🙂

    Stephanie….how on earth did you get that picture of me?!?! 😮

    Liked by 2 people

  88. Larry G says:

    “Error my ass, you POS!”

    Liked by 2 people

  89. Stephanie says:

    “Hey, you posted that link before Ton. I “liked” it earlier. 🙂”

    ^Well, I thought I did, but apparently WordPress is full of lies… LOL

    Liked by 1 person

  90. Larry G says:

    Call tech support..I think it crashed….

    Liked by 2 people

  91. SFC Ton says:

    Not sure the dems have the votes to impeach Trump

    As I understand it tgey don’t have a particularly big majority and some number of dems knowntgey will loose their seat if they do bullshit like that. Not sure any of the gop pussies will cross over on that issue as you could expect the gop machinery to give you the cold shoulder afterward

    What this election is, What it mostly is, is a loose for a White majority america because the dems will win like crazy on immigration and all the other I hate Whitey stuff… the gop is the original anti White poltical party in the usa and many of its members still gets a moral superiority high voting that way.


  92. SFC Ton says:

    Shit wants the link I intended to post

    How did that link work out?

    Liked by 1 person

  93. SFC Ton says:

    Your girlfriend can read? No good will come from that shit. Next thing you know she’ll want to vote, drive cars and what not.

    Liked by 3 people

  94. Larry G says:

    Pucker up snowflakes…


  95. RichardP says:

    Voting to impeach the President will do nothing since the Senate will not vote to have him removed. And voting to impeach might get the Representative voted out of office next election.

    For this reason, I expect the Dems game plan will be to leave impeachment alone and instead seek to get as much embarrassing information on Trump into the public eye as possible. An all-out 2-year-long effort to make sure he is not re-elected in two years.


  96. Ame says:

    another good reason for me to ignore the news

    Liked by 1 person

  97. Liz says:

    “I expect the Dems game plan will be to leave impeachment alone and instead seek to get as much embarrassing information on Trump into the public eye as possible. An all-out 2-year-long effort to make sure he is not re-elected in two years.”

    I can’t imagine there is anything left in their arsenal. Surely they’ve used up everything they possibly can and then some. I’m sure they even sent their personal spooks out to sniff Russian mattresses for piss. And the public is punch drunk, they’ve overplayed their hands already. No new takers.

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  98. Cheque d'Out says:

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  99. thedeti says:

    I said up there: “Look for more resignations to follow.”

    Breaking: Sessions is out at Justice; he’s resigned today. Of course, he had been hinting at this for months; his own boss has been publicly criticizing him and vaguely hinting he might be canned.

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  100. SFC Ton says:

    It’s good to see Sessions go.
    One of the bigger Trump admin disappointments

    Liked by 4 people

  101. thedeti says:

    Sessions quit because The Donald asked for his resignation.

    “Quit or be fired.”

    Liked by 1 person

  102. Yoda says:

    “I’m terribly sorry,” she wrote. “What I’m about to say is something so racist I never thought my soul could ever feel it. But truly I never wanna spend time with white people again (if that’s what non-muslims are called). Not for one moment, for any reason. They are disgusting.”


  103. Yoda says:

    A pensioner has begun a legal battle to be recognised as being 20 years younger than his actual age so he can go back to work and achieve greater success with women on Tinder.

    Liked by 1 person

  104. Liz says:

    Saw the Sinead thing over at Dalrock’s.
    I suggested she take a trip to China.

    Where, if the world is lucky, she can enjoy some “non-whitey” time….indefinitely.

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  105. Yoda says:

    Judiciary Committee ranking member Rep. Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y., revealed plans for House Democrats to investigate and impeach Justice Brett Kavanaugh for alleged perjury and investigate and impeach President Donald Trump for alleged treasonous collusion with Russia.


  106. Yoda says:

    When a recent Canadian study of about 30,000 students between 7th and 12th grade found that more boys than girls were victims of physical dating violence, the reaction was one of disbelief. Accusations of male sexual harassment were exploding from the university campuses to the boardrooms of Fortune 500 companies, begetting the #MeToo movement.

    The most memorable perpetrators of sexual assault against women committed heinous acts: some women had been drugged and raped; others had been fired after they rebuffed an overt sexual assault. But many other acts were considered by both men and women to be normal fun and flirtation. During the media frenzy, abuse against men was never even reported as a footnote as men—good and bad—were accused and labeled as sexual predators.

    In the past 38 years, more than 270 studies, with an aggregate sample size of more than 440,000, have found that “women are as physically aggressive, or more aggressive, than men in their relationships with their spouses or male partners” from teenage years on. Since studies of teen dating violence began in the eighties, researchers have found that female high school students are four times as likely as male high school students to be the sole abuser of the other sex (5.7% vs. 1.4%).

    The best studies of dating violence differentiate by the severity of violence (according to the Conflicts Tactics Scale). For example, a study conducted by Caulfield and Riggs found that 19% of women vs. 7% of men slapped their female partner. However, when it came to kicking, biting or hitting their partner with a fist, 13% of women vs. 3% of men engaged in those more severe forms of violence. The more specific the questions are, the more both sexes acknowledge the women were between two and three times as likely to hit, kick, bite, or strike their partner with an object.

    Among all populations, most violence was mutual. But when it was unilateral, it was more likely to have been initiated by the woman. For example, in a study of over 500 university students, women were three times as likely (9% vs. 3%) to have initiated unilateral violence.

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  107. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:

    This really is not a surprise. Women instigate a lot…


  108. Yoda says:

    It took until the exit polls emerged for Democrats to finally settle on a satisfactory scapegoat: white women who had defied their fealty oaths to the Democratic party and the edicts of feminism to cast ballots for Republican Ted Cruz in Texas, Republican Ron DeSantis in Florida, and Republican Brian Kemp in Georgia.

    The attacks were swift and merciless, as feminists and leftists alike descended on white women voters, accusing them of betraying their gender by selecting a candidate of their choice based on their needs rather than following marching orders from the feminist movement.

    “Radical feminist” author Mona Eltahawy declared white women who voted for Republicans in Florida, Georgia, and Texas “foot-soldiers of the Patriarchy.”

    Liked by 1 person

  109. Yoda says:

    The “Red Dead Redemption” suffragette videos no more they are

    Liked by 1 person

  110. thedeti says:

    Master Yoda:

    I knew it. I knew Judiciary would start with impeachment articles for trump and kavanaugh. I called it, dudes.


  111. Liz says:

    Are you sure about the impeachment proceedings?
    Pelosi claimed they wouldn’t try it less than 24 hours ago.


  112. Liz says:

    “When a recent Canadian study of about 30,000 students between 7th and 12th grade found that more boys than girls were victims of physical dating violence, the reaction was one of disbelief.’

    There was a Sapro ( Sexual Assault Prevention and Response Office) report to Congress in 2012 with essentially the same estimate (26,000, the overwhelming majority of victims were men). It isn’t even accessible now.

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  113. RichardP says:

    Liz beat me to it. The body of the article Yoda linked to does not really support the title of the article. Nadler was just theorizing about what could take place and admitted that Judiciary’s role would be subordinate to others, including Shiff’s committee. Nadler also admitted that a lot of what happens going forward will depend on what Meuller has discovered. Conventional wisdom says that if he had discovered anything, we would know about it by now.

    From this article:

    Impeachment and removal of a federal judge, including a Supreme Court justice, requires meeting a high political bar. Just as with presidents, a majority of the House must approve an indictment to impeach, and a two-thirds supermajority of the US Senate must convict for the judge or justice to lose their office.

    Since the Senate is unlikely to remove either the President or Judge Kavanaugh even if the House votes to impeach, I’m sure saner heads will decide that their efforts can best be spent in other activities. Like issuing subpoenas for documents that could prove embarrasing to the President. His tax returns have been mentioned, as a way to “prove” that Trump has committed treason by collaborating with the Russians for years in business deals.

    What might gain some traction is the call for impeaching Judge Kavanaugh over charges that he lied during confirmation hearings for his previous post about whether he had received stolen documents. If the evidence shows that he actually did receive those stolen documents, the Senate may be more inclined to remove him from office if the House impeaches.

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  114. Liz says:

    If they try to impeach Kavanaugh, they will be me with Mutually Assured Investigation (I borrowed this term elsewhere, but I like it).
    If they have the balls…play ball.
    I wouldn’t advise it.


  115. Liz says:

    “met with” (typo above)


  116. SFC Ton says:

    The dems are pretty damn use to the gop rolling over. Might be they don’t understand the game has changed to some degree or another

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  117. Acosta kicked out of White House. Had his press pass pulled.

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  118. Farm Boy says:

    There needs to be accountability and an honest reckoning. There’s a lot of work to do, white women. A lot of learning. A lot of growing.

    We want to do it with you.
    Stay tuned.

    — Women’s March (@womensmarch) November 7, 2018

    So the white women who voted for Rafael Edward Cruz are racist but the ones who voted for Robert Francis O’Rourke aren’t?

    To say all of this is creepy and condescending is really to undersell it a bit. What kind of “accountability” does the Women’s March have in mind? The riff about a lot of learning and growing, which they want to do with these women, makes me wonder if they’re envisioning some form of mandatory re-education. Of course, the Women’s March wouldn’t call it that but what are we talking about here? It’s a little too 1984 for me.


  119. Farm Boy says:

    Sixteen Canadian women have had human rights complaints filed against them by a male-to-female transgender individual for alleged “gender identity” discrimination after they refused to wax his male genitalia.

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  120. Farm Boy says:

    The late Jennifer Lynch, QC, then head of the Canadian “Human Rights” Commission, used to talk about “balancing” free speech with other rights – and, then as now, “balancing” is code for nullifying: If your right to free speech has to be balanced with people’s “feelings”, then as a practical matter there is no free speech.

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  121. Farm Boy says:

    [Heap big forked tongue she has]


  122. Farm Boy says:

    Those were the ones Obama went hoarse campaigning for, yelling and waving his arms, voice cracking, speeches described as fiery, telling voters to vote for these guys or die. With Gillum in particular, racial appeals were a factor and Obama’s presence was supposed to help. Gillum had a big media buildup about being a first black governor of Florida as an argument to draw votes, and he later cried racism to fend off corruption allegations. Adding Obama to campaign was obviously part of the appeal. This time, the race-politics identity card simply failed.

    And Obama? What did he get? Zilch. Zip. Zero. Nada. The voters rather noticibly rejected the ex-president’s appeal for votes. Been there, done that.

    He didn’t get zero. He got Gillum’s mom to vote for Gillum.

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  123. Farm Boy says:

    The “Corbyn Defense”

    Louis Farrakhan: I Never Led ‘Death to America,’ I Just Asked How to Pronounce It


  124. Farm Boy says:

    In all fairness, Nancy Pelosi deserves to be chosen Speaker of the House by the Democrats. If they give her a hard time, perhaps we will add some Republican votes. She has earned this great honor!

    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 7, 2018


  125. Farm Boy says:

    Then there’s Pelosi’s increasingly out of touch comments and frankly bizarre antics, which was all on full display in her big victory speech Tuesday night.

    “Let’s hear it more for pre-existing medical conditions!” she oddly cheered

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  126. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:

    and yet the MassHoles reelected her by a pretty significant margin.


  127. Farm Boy says:

    Girl Scouts of the United States of America filed a trademark infringement lawsuit against the Boy Scouts of America Tuesday, saying the organization’s recent decision to market to both genders is infringing on and diluting the Girl Scouts’ brand.


  128. Cheque d'Out says:

    *raises eyebrow*

    Liked by 4 people

  129. I am thinking the Sessions thing was planned and the timing was chosen specifically and was based on the election outcome. Good cop bad cop? I guess we will see soon enough…

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  130. SFC Ton says:

    Replacing that hag woould probably be a mixed blessing. Trump put up a Catholic last time and they tend to end up voting with the jews on the court over the long haul which ain’t good but at least you get a few good decisions out of them before they stab you in the fucking back

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  131. Farm Boy says:

    NYC birder Molly Adams, 26, is leading the nation’s first-ever network of Feminist Bird Clubs to provide a “safe opportunity” for womxn, LGBTQ, and gender-nonbinary folks to practice bird-watching free from the constraints of the patriarchal world.


  132. I don’t know how to post images but the guy who is AAG looks like a bada$$. Maybe someone else can post them? I saw one of him lifting huge weights, another where Sessions looks pretty happy and is shaking his hand to congratulate him. Somehow I am thinking there’s more to all this than meets the eye.

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  133. Farm Boy says:

    Six years’ worth of dismal due process rights for the accused has led to hundreds of young men fighting sexual assault claim allegations in court. Even more concerning, this lack of protection has rendered one group particularly vulnerable — young black men.

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  134. The fact that the MSM is wailing and gnashing teeth over it also makes me think there’s more to it as well. They don’t like this guy.

    Liked by 2 people

  135. Farm Boy says:

    “Activists ring doorbell, hold protest at the Washington DC area home of [Tucker Carlson], racist, sexist, bigoted FOX News personality. So far no one has opened the door,” says a caption to one of the videos. “Tucker Carlson, we will fight! We know where you sleep at night!” ​


  136. Farm Boy says:

    “I think if the president can set up two years of Nancy Pelosi presiding over crazies, that’ll help him,” Gingrich said


  137. @Liz

    Here he is showing how much of his boot is going up Mueller’s ass. (fingers crossed)

    Liked by 3 people

  138. Farm Boy says:

    Heap big trouble,

    Console gaming giant Nintendo has removed a Native American reference from its hotly anticipated game Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, after the company received complaints and allegations of racism.


  139. Larry G says:

    Democunts are still sniveling……awwwwww

    Liked by 2 people

  140. Bader-Ginsberg broke 85 ribs? I always knew she was a snake-oid in disguise.

    Liked by 1 person

  141. SFC Ton says:

    “Activists ring doorbell, hold protest at the Washington DC area home of [Tucker Carlson], racist, sexist, bigoted FOX News personality. So far no one has opened the door,” says a caption to one of the videos. “Tucker Carlson, we will fight! We know where you sleep at night!” ​

    Hippies meat the Hell Hounds; Hell Hounds, meat the hippies

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  142. SFC Ton says:

    13 dead and 23 injured by one dude and a Gkock…. pretty good shooting for a Marine and much respect for the deputy. Most cops are cowardly sacks of shit on legs. The few who aren’t deserve much respect.

    Liked by 2 people

  143. earl says:

    I look forward to seeing a comatose RBG on the Supreme Court. Perhaps they’ll even go as far as Weekend at Bernie’s her.


  144. Cheque d'Out says:

    My bad. I missed this in the election results

    Liked by 2 people

  145. Cheque d'Out says:

    I’m amazed that anyone could get fed up with that soy drenched theatrical whining NPC cunt

    But maybe it’s true… strange times etc


  146. Liz says:

    Re Thousand Oaks,
    Aren’t there some folks who live around the LA area here? Richard? Or am i thinking of Robert over at Bloom’s?

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  147. @CdO

    I really don’t think that the O.C. is really any more stupid or crazy than several other crackpots in Congress already, more’s the pity. Its just that their numbers seem to be trending up to actually dangerous levels where there are enough of them to push legislation through the House to the Senate, which was supposed to act as check on the rabble. However, with batshit-crazy types like Booker, Harris and Warren, not to mention all the Cuck-a-cans, we’re going to be in a world of hurt.

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  148. copperfox3c says:

    I made the argument a long time ago, like 2-3 years back, that the Truth is always “interpreted”. That for me is the basis of the Red Pill, understanding the reality of cultural narratives and how they work.


  149. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:

    He was a goner a long time ago. They just didnt want it to happen until the midterms were over.

    Sessions was a bad choice to begin with, as was Rosenstein.

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  150. Farm Boy says:

    If women and LGBTQs want to play video games, they can play video games.

    If they want create their own gaming culture, they can create their own family g culture.

    If they want to write video games, they can write video games.

    Nobody is stopping them.

    Johnson writes in the new piece “Technomasculinity and Its Production in Video Games” that after interviewing 20 video game developers, he discovered that “technomasculnity” is rampant in the gaming industry, hurting women and LGBTQ people in the process.

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  151. Farm Boy says:

    Here is the group threatening Tucker Carlson


  152. I am very sure that if CNN or MSNBC had video of Cruz, Kavanaugh and Trump standing outside people’s houses chanting and ringing their doorbells and “taking their peace” if would be playing on an infinite loop on those channels.

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  153. Pussified soy-boy academics are peeing their pants that some men have hair on their balls and can due 3 pushups without fainting…

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  154. RichardP says:

    @Liz asked about Thousand Oaks:

    And Bloom, re posting images. That question was answered here recently. The link has to end with “.jpg” or “png”. Test it and see.


  155. Farm Boy says:

    Election Update: Democrats Stealing Arizona, In Process of Manufacturing Votes to Steal both Governor and Senate Seats in Florida


  156. SFC Ton says:

    Can’t wait until they find this particular right wing scum……. though of course they won’t do shit against an actual man


  157. honeycomb says:


  158. &Ton admittedly I don’t know anything about gocks but 23 injured and 13 dead equals how many bullets? How many does a gun like that hold? Is that possible?

    Randomly this was the top news link on my phone news page, what are the odds? Coinky dink?


  159. And of course this is a guy says his friends were also on Vegas, so he could be just making that up. Weird. Very weird.


  160. RichardP says:

    @rpg asked: How many does a gun like that hold?

    tl/dr: the gunman reloaded at least once.

    One of the young men interviewed on television said that the minute he heard the first shot, he knew what was happening and pulled everbody around him to the floor. At the first pause in the shooting, he knew the gunman was reloading, so he took that moment to throw a bar stool through the window and he and those around him all escaped.

    I guess this is one of the benefits of this sort of thing becoming commonplace. He knew immediately when to pull himself and those around him down, and he knew when it would be safest to try to escape. Lucky for him and those around him, he guessed correctly.


  161. RichardP says:

    The bar / large dance floor is a pretty popular place for the young folks in the area to go and strut their stuff. The night of the shooting was advertised as a night for the college-aged kids to come and dance / line dance to country music.

    The show in Las Vegas where folks were shot was a country music show.

    It’s not unreasonable to think that some folks who like country music could have been at both places.


  162. honeycomb says:

    The compact frame G23 is a great concealed carry gun.

    It will accept compact, full and bigger magazines. Those are approximately 15(ish), 19(ish) and 33 plus round magazines.

    I haven’t carried a G23 in a year or so now that I’ve gone back to the G19. Which is the 9mm version of the G23 (40cal).

    The 9mm -vs- 40cal debate is a moot point. Depending on ammo neither is a friendly to life when on the business end.


  163. honeycomb says:

    My motto is ..

    Keep shooting until your target changes shape or catches fire ..

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  164. BuenaVista says:

    It was a Glock 21.

    Numerous high capacity mags are available. Which I don’t think really matters since the psycho was a professional and carry as many Cal-legal 10 round mags as he wishes.


  165. 😦 my heart goes out to those who were there and to the families and friends of those injured or killed. I cannot imagine…

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  166. honeycomb says:

    (Re: G21)

    Welp .. I’m surprised he chose a 45cal .. mine’s a G21sf (small frame) and it’s tough to conceal for me.

    Much less spare / additional mags.

    I’d look like I was santa claus or michelin man.


  167. honeycomb says:

    Just read an article on the shooter ..

    These things stand out ..
    1) He was raised in a single parent household
    2) Was probably on meds (that’s all the VA dors for vets with PTSD)
    3) He modified his mags or had extended mags .. probably aftermarket mag extensions
    4) He had anger issues that scared his family
    5) Apparently they wanted him committed .. but it seems Cali doesn’t do involunteer referrals
    6) The father was unavailable for comment .. nice job mom .. nothing ruins a boy into a mal-adjusted adult / man quiet like removal of his biologic male dad!

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  168. Farm Boy says:

    Clearly fake news

    CNN’s Jim Acosta blatantly lied while appearing on CNN’s “Anderson Cooper 360°” with host Anderson Cooper on Wednesday night, where he falsely claimed that he never touched the White House aide that tried to take the mic away from him.

    CNN selectively edited the footage from the incident and did not show the moment that Acosta touched the aide, and when Acosta lied, Cooper offered no pushback.

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  169. earl says:

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  170. earl says:

    I don’t want gun control…I want single mother and big pharma control.

    Liked by 1 person

  171. honeycomb says:

    Earl ..

    “I don’t want gun control … I want COMMON SENSE single mother and big pharma control.”

    fify .. now it’s ready for prime-time.

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  172. RichardP says:

    @honeycomb said: 5) Apparently they wanted him committed .. but it seems Cali doesn’t do involunteer referrals

    The police called their psych unit to do an evaluation. They examined him. If that unit had decided he needed to be committed for a 72-hour check, he would have been – even against his wishes. But they ruled that he didn’t need to be committed.


  173. honeycomb says:

    I read that they didn’t recommend a stay in a padded room.

    How did that work out?


  174. honeycomb says:

    72 evals are not invol admissions.

    Invol admissions are from family wanting an adult member of the family admitted.

    72 hr stays are like pistol cool-off periods. All they prove is intent after the act.

    The government doesn’t admit tons of folks because of budgets.

    I would bet he was in need of treatment and they chose to call him good-to-go because of budget constraints.

    Plus the VA has NO IDEA how to handle PTSD .. other than drugs. Which most Vets tell me does more harm than good.


  175. honeycomb says:

    His classmate says Long suffered serious PTSD after his tour and tried to get help from therapists and doctors. We’re told he also reached out to the military for help, but his mental health was in bad shape.

    This same source article says he had a target at the bar he was after and that he was bullied in High School.

    This was a place they all gathered .. so it could be he was targeting an old bully.

    Frankly .. ALL of these shooters have a pretty common theme .. they were bullied single mom medicated kids.

    Who knew that made time-bombs out of men. /S


  176. Ame says:

    of his biologic male dad

    and … it’s sad we have to clarify that ‘dad’ is a ‘male’ in this day and time.


  177. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:

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  178. Liz says:

    “I would bet he was in need of treatment and they chose to call him good-to-go because of budget constraints.”

    The burden of proof for involuntary commitment (due to mental issues) is pretty high. If a person calls up the VA and tells them they are afraid they will harm themselves or others, they will be taken to a facility either voluntarily or involuntarily. It’s not a budgeting issue so much as a due process one.

    OTOH, if the person needs/wants help but it is not expressed as extremely urgent (as described above) they’ll have to take a number and wait a while because there aren’t enough staff. This is true of active duty so I’m sure it’s true of the VA. Regulations helped to create the problem…every time a soldier returns from a deployment they require a mandatory mental evaluation, even if the person returning doesn’t believe they need it. That takes up a lot of time slots with the staff.

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  179. honeycomb says:

    Liz .. no disagreement on current mil practices .. it’s a good practice.

    But apparently he needed help and the VA declined. The state has cut civilian mental hospital budgets over the, last 60 years, drastically.

    You could get a family member committed easily in Alabama circa 50’s and 60’s.

    Not today.

    Somewhere .. probably the VA dropped the ball. But it sounds like the folks that evaluated him were social workers without proper training or education (i.e. degree).

    I know .. that would never happen.

    On the flip-side we do not want to go to a soviet style of mental hospital(s) for everyone that has the wrong views either.

    We’re just spit-ballin’ anyway .. an official report will follow. Hopefully one that isn’t redacted or written to ex-zon-er-ate the guilty.

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  180. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:

    Michelle reloads on the move…


  181. Others describe him as a really great guy, best guy they knew. However they said he hadn’t been around for awhile… so perhaps things had changed.

    I had a neighbor, used to do handyman stuff, referred by someone I know and trust. At first, super likable guy. Nice family. He lived w his folks bc he had been in trouble w the law for stuff w an ex, claimed he was falsely accused, seemed probable enough. Gave them benifit of the doubt. He said he was bipolar but he was in a monitored program, on meds. Again super nice, smart, friendly person. He was doing so well he got out of the program, graduated. Gradually he increased his drinking, still seemed ok. Then injured his back. Two docs refused to prescribe pain meds bc of his past history and meds he was on. Third doc gave him some mild opiate thing. The drinking had ratcheted up but went way way up then. Not sure he was taking his psych meds anymore. Not long after he suddenly changed. The guy he was before was suddenly someone else entirely. Jeckle and Hyde. He went from nice guy you would never think twice about to super weird guy sending texts that had me putting my kids in the car wi minutes and leaving for days bc they were that scary and I didn’t want to wait and see if he was serious. My guy walked me try all this. I decided I didn’t want to bring in LE unless there was no other way. So I contacted his parents, told them get him back in the box or I will. His mom was a nurse, this stuff ran in her family. They got the docs to up his meds to the point he basically could not do much more than sleep, eat, and stay home for several months. Didn’t hear anything. About three months later he showed up out of the blue, said he was sorry, noticed the security cameras my guy had installed monitoring all approaches (w instant motion detection to his cell plus mine plus cloud backup) asked if we put them up bc of him? I said yes, he’s never been back. This was two plus years ago now. I am glad his parents did what was needed and that I didn’t cause him another round w the law, but it was very very dicey. I could see why he had trouble before. Maybe this guy was like him, maybe not but bipolar can be like two completely different people. One great, the other unhinged. And when it’s the not nice one… most probably hurt themselves rather than others or it’s just talk but I could see how it could happen. I wish someone would have taken the concerns of others more seriously. Maybe lots of people would have been saved. Of course they never would have known what they didn’t know. People in that state can’t see it themselves, or control it. I do believe that. If I had not been red pilled I dont think I would have reached out to his parents first. It was admittedly a risk. I am glad it turned out like it did. Sadly I am sure he will cycle again. Will that person know what to do? Who knows. I am glad he saw the cameras and that seemed to be all it took. I don’t wish to make acquaintance again. (I know, how do I meet these people? In hindsight it was foolish to believe the past problems were false allegations and yet it happens, as we know here. So benifit of the doubt until I saw for myself his dad says it was all talk, but who wants to take the chance? I was glad they did what he couldn’t do for himself, did what needed done.)

    Anyway… yeah… It’s hard to know what is right in situations like that.

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  182. Liz says:

    Eek…sorry you were in that situation, Bloom. 😦
    We had a person at the base who was mentally unstable….squadron commander.
    That’s how I know it’s very very difficult to get a person involuntarily committed.
    Even when the mental health professionals say, “It wouldn’t surprise us at all if this person killed himself and his whole family”.
    On a military base though, you can have the person on 24/7 surveillance.

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  183. Liz says:

    I should add, obviously he didn’t stay a squadron commander after his condition became apparent.

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  184. Ame says:

    that is very scary, Bloom. it is believed my first husband was bipolar. he was either really, really amazing, or he was really, really scary and terrible. when he was good, there wasn’t anyone better. when he was bad, there weren’t many worse.

    this is why there were several who were very concerned for our safety.

    i always felt like i could ‘manage’ him. and mostly i could. it became more difficult after our first was born, but she was so sweet, and definitely a “Daddy’s Girl,’ that it was mostly manageable. it was when i was pregnant with our second that he really went off-the-rails and started getting into some really bad stuff, which affected his behavior at home. there were times he was truly evil – i would look in his eyes, and he wasn’t there … but they were evil.

    he was never diagnosed … he would never even submit to such a diagnosis, anyway, as he believed all that stuff was bs. Aspie-Girl’s first psychiatrist was the first one to point out that he was probably bipolar. after he was diagnosed with diabetes, and before the privacy laws tightened, i talked to his pcp for a long time about his behaviors, and the pcp told me that very few women would stick it out with a man like that.


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