Signalling That You Are Ready


Back when I was a baby, men and women typically got married young, late teens to early twenties.  It was pretty much assumed that anybody who was of quality was looking.  The women did signal their intentions, and perhaps more importantly prepared themselves mentally for married life.

This was all well and good for the fellas, for they really want to have sex at that age.  Furthermore, it was considered to be best if that sex had societal sanction.  A young lady, singling that she want to get married was just what he wanted.  To try to get the best possible bride, he would work hard, be it at the university and/or at the job in order to show that he would be a good provider.

Fast forward to today.  Women in their twenties are riding the carousel, carousel watching, exploring the overly, goofing around with careers, doing whatever.  They are signaling no intention of getting married.  Furthermore, for many fellas, these women are ignoring them totally.  The fellas get discouraged with respect to women; they maybe start  drifting in their careers/jobs, then maybe put their time and effort into things that really do not signal provider; playing sports, fishing, hobbies, hanging with the guys, and so on.

For fellas in their thirties, they are more mentally mature while at the same time their urges are not as strong.  Maybe women start signaling that they re ready to these men, but after defining a life of their own, are they as eager to engage women?   Women as a whole have decided to run this risk.  It has kind of worked out, as their have been lots of fellas to marry them.  But will this continue?   Would it be better for women individually and as a whole to signal earlier?  For the children?

Addendum by Deti:

Dalrock has done a lot of posts on this.

The weakened signal is one

Essentially the posts talk about how men are not getting the “signals” from women or anyone else that “hey, it’s time to grow up, it’s time to get responsible, you’ll get a wife, you’ll get a family, you’ll have your own house/stuff/car/whatever else. So let’s start getting a wee bit serious about things and put away our childish things, K?”

And a lot of those signals came from the women about their age, signaling sexual attraction, which signaled:

“I am ready for marriage, I find you sexually attractive, I want to have sex with you, but I need to get married first. I am ready for all that. I want that. I want all that WITH YOU.”

She would do things like cook for him, get him gifts, spend time with him, etc. which signaled:

“I can cook meals. I have domestic skills. I am ready, willing and able to deploy those skills in our mutual service and in a home we make together. I am ready to take care of a home. I will be a good steward of your resources. I respect you and your time. I know it is valuable.”

And other kinds of signals.

Men don’t receive those signals anymore. So, what are women signaling now?

“I might be ready for marriage sometime, but NOT YET. Everything has to be perfect before I will consider marriage. Time, jobs, apartment, money, friends, education levels, kids — all have to be perfectly in place before I will even think about marriage to anyone.

“I want to have sex with attractive men. If you are hot, I will want sex. If you are not hot, I might want sex, if and only if you commit and go all in with your time and resources, and you have to put it all on the table first.

“If I have sex with you, whether you are hot or not hot, I expect you to give me the relationship I want, whether that be fuckbuddies, marriage, or anything in between. You are required to compensate me for the sex I give you.

“If I am in any way dissatisfied with you, I will blame you. Nothing is my fault, ever. You are required to give me what I want, when I want, and how I want it.

“I am not going to cook or clean for you. That’s not my job. I don’t have domestic skills and I don’t really want to develop any. If we have a home together, great, just so long as we can leave the relationship if we’re not getting what we want. I don’t respect you or your time; but you damn well better respect me and my time. My time is valuable; I don’t care what value you put on your time.”

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61 comments on “Signalling That You Are Ready
  1. mgtowhorseman says:

    Um re the current timeline….

    And thats baaaaaaaad??

    Sounds good to me. Get a 50k mid level job without high pressure of being manager or responsible, more than enough for a small house for one person, a few toys, then fuck off hunting, fishing, hiking.

    Being a nothing basement troll is too poor once you get to be say forty but fifty grand as a journeyman is more than enough for a guy alone.

    Sorry, not seeing the downside.

    Also think of the timeline re this.

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  2. earl says:

    What horseman is saying is actually what a woman sort of predicted when she realized the downside to feminism. Both the MGTOWs and the Playboys

    ‘Taylor Caldwell– Feminism Spoiled Nature’s Great Con’

    https://www.henrymakow.com/feminism_spoiled_natures_great.html

    ‘I fear that men are beginning to suspect that we women conned them through the centuries. I fear they are asking themselves — to women’s terrible hurt — why they should support an able-bodied woman who can earn a good living too, and why should they be responsible for providing a home for women.

    Why can’t women be architects and bricklayers and plumbers and stone-masons and lawyers and doctors and businesswomen too, and pile up a fat bank account to be inherited by husbands?

    Why should a man give his ex-wife alimony and child-support checks, when she is just as capable, if not more so, of rolling up her sleeves and getting on the 8:00 bus of a morning for an arduous day in the factory or the office?

    After all, men whisper among themselves — I have heard — that women in Russia are treated exactly as men, and are farm-laborers plowing and seeding and harvesting, and they manhandle big machines in factories, empty garbage, and shovel snow, learn to be bricklayers and steel-workers as well as doctors and lawyers, serve in the armies, drive trucks, wear felt pants, dig sewers and lay pipes, clean chimneys and work in the forests, and do the heaviest of manual labor.

    Men, in short, are licking their lips and, for the first time in history, are readying themselves to be exploiters in their turn — to be the soft gentle creature in the house, the soother of exhaustion, the serene person who has nothing to worry about in his pleasant life. Mom’s out there, plugging and “fulfilling” herself, and why should Pop worry? He’s had it coming to him since Eve.

    It is a woman’s nature to make a sanctuary of love and delight in her home. That is the true “career” for women. Alas, alas, that so many multitudes of women are now forced — or choose — to abandon that career, and to become imitation men in society. The true men won’t marry them. The creeps will throng about them. They will reap the bitterness I have had to reap — though I never wanted a career, never wanted to be “stalwart.” I just wanted to be a woman.’

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  3. Farm Boy says:

    You think that you have all of the power, but you don’t. At least if you are a woman

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  4. earl says:

    I probably wouldn’t read Time’s rationalizations (wouldn’t surprise me if they blamed men or Patriarchy)…but it seems like the less women are women the more unhappy they are. Don’t let their pride or blustering fool you…you often don’t see them crying themselves to sleep at night.

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  5. earl says:

    ‘You think that you have all of the power, but you don’t. At least if you are a woman’

    Last I checked pride is something that affects us all. Both women and men need a return to worshiping God, following His commands, and developing humility.

    In women’s case…pride is going to really make a run at them, just like it did in the past.

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  6. Farm Boy says:

    Even if you don’t believe in God, the pride will eventually do you in.

    The EU Government being a good example

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  7. mgtowhorseman says:

    Remembermgtow is not necessarily ignoring women, thats only monk mode.
    Sure go monk during your twenties, use hookers. Use the time to pay of your mortgage on a small house, casr etc.

    Then thirties save the money, even 5k a year. By forty you are mortgage free and 50k cash plus your earning years in front of you. Hell even at 30 you should have minimal expenses and lots of play money. Know what kind of 20 year old pussy you can pull then! Plus all the higher end 30-40 desperate to find a “real man, one of accomplishment’.

    Date them, fuck them, dump them.
    For companionship have a STR. But the first time she says ” I want” you say “no!”
    The second time you say “bye!”

    Mgtow is about fucking convention.

    “Life isn’t fair!
    So make it unfair in your favor!”

    Best poster child? Leonardo Decaprio. (Fucking stupid name)
    Money, fame, string of romances but avowed bachelor.
    Hell even Bill Maher even though he is a liberal idiot.

    Yup. Not seeing the downside for an individual man in the new world order.
    Society is fucked but the individual man can have a blast

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  8. earl says:

    Well the downside to an individual man in the NWO is if he disagrees with anything about the NWO. And since it’s mainly an inversion of God’s command there’s going to be a lot to disagree with.

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  9. Farm Boy says:

    Hillary is signalling that she is ready

    A Sunday morning report in the New York Post claims Hillary Clinton may be forming a team to campaign for President a third time, in 2020.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/32752/back-reports-indicate-hillary-clinton-may-be-emily-zanotti

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  10. Farm Boy says:

    Professor Cara Daggett, who teaches classes on politics and global security at Virginia Tech, is warning that fossil fuels are contributing to a warped sense of “masculine identity” and “authoritarianism” among men.

    https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=11098

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  11. Wonder if Cara drives a car or takes public transport, or uses electricity? Those darn men, inventing things!

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  12. Farm Boy says:

    Somebody (maybe Trump) should just declare Feminism, Progressivism, Liberalism, whatever, as just a “war on children”.

    Because that is what they are

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  13. Farm Boy says:

    One piece of merchandise carried a label that read “Trigger warning: gendered and patriarchal language.” The offending verbiage? Instructions for using a feminine-hygiene product.

    I attempted to make a small purchase but didn’t have any cash. A sign at the counter declared: “Due to patriarchy we require a $5 minimum on all debit/credit card purchases.” I left empty-handed. A few weeks later, the store announced it was closing: “Patriarchy, white supremacy, capitalism cannot be reformed and ever serve the people. Abolition is the goal.” The final statement doesn’t mention women.

    Last Monday, University of Toronto psychologist Jordan Peterson came to Portland as part of his tour to promote “12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos.” Some 50 protesters stood outside the theater accusing him of “transphobia” and misogyny. Their signs—one of them read “infinite genders”—reminded me of the bookstore. One protester told me she was shocked that so many women came to hear Mr. Peterson speak: “It’s just disgusting!” Sure enough, inside were many women, including women of color.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/intersectional-bookstore-comes-to-a-dead-end-1530830357

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  14. My 83 year old aunt told me that of the 300 girls in her high school class, 150 were married within 3 months after graduation and another 15 had gone into the convent. Of course, back then there were close to dozen auto and appliance factories in the area that a 18 yo guy could go to work in and make enough to support a family.

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  15. Cheque d'Out says:

    Something starting in the Tory party

    [Worse than the May Middle Muddle it could be not]

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  16. Cheque d'Out says:

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  17. Farm Boy says:

    Since this is Gerry Rafferty night, this might seem appropriate Brexitwise

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  18. earl says:

    ‘A Sunday morning report in the New York Post claims Hillary Clinton may be forming a team to campaign for President a third time, in 2020.’

    If that’s the case…then I look forward to more light shining on her den of covens, pedos, and other dark minded ilk she runs around with. She just doesn’t learn.

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  19. earl says:

    I call it…’thoughts from the thot.’

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  20. Yoda says:

    Confused I would be

    ‘Lesbian Activists’ Stall London Pride Parade To Protest Against Transgenders

    “A man who says he’s a lesbian is a rapist.”

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/32756/lesbian-activists-stall-london-pride-parade-emily-zanotti

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  21. Yoda says:

    Gratuitous image this is

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  22. earl says:

    The great shiving continues.

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  23. Cill says:

    Yoda at 3:01 am

    Expect feminism’s resentment of LGBTQ to grow. Feminists are the queens of victimism. They invented The Patriarchy. It’s their doctrine, they own it. No other victim group can make these claims. Others should not be allowed to displace feminism as the original and principal victim of the ultimate evil, The Patriarchy.

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  24. RichardP says:

    Thanks for Get It Right Next Time. That groove really hit the spot.

    Here is Baker Street, for the sax opening, if for nothing else.

    [Gerry Rafferty a Scotsman he was
    From his singing voice one could tell this not]

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  25. earl says:

    ‘Feminists are the queens of victimism. They invented The Patriarchy.’

    They invented blaming the Patriarchy for their own faults. It has always existed.

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  26. Wayne says:

    Rafferty really hits the spot. It’s too bad that old kick-ass groove scene died after 9/11. There is no true joyful passion in any music coming out since then.

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  27. Farm Boy says:

    #Lysistrata2018 is the brainchild of Jennifer Wright, political editor of Harpers Bazaar. Wright suggests women add a female judge emoji to their “dating profiles” to “show people you won’t date/sleep with anyone who doesn’t support a woman’s right to choose.”

    http://victorygirlsblog.com/lysistrata2018-alert-the-men-feminists-are-now-resisting-sex/

    [An issue with her request I have not]

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  28. SFC Ton says:

    Of course, back then there were close to dozen auto and appliance factories in the area that a 18 yo guy could go to work in and make enough to support a family.
    ………..

    I think the man o sphere generally down plays the ecconmic side of things. Probably because it’s mostly driven by the writings of umc White guys.

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  29. Wayne says:

    “Wright suggests women add a female judge emoji to their “dating profiles” to “show people you won’t date/sleep with anyone who doesn’t support a woman’s right to choose.”

    Great advice for women who want to find non-alpha work horses. Heh… Who was it that talked about “the race to the bottom”?

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  30. Farm Boy says:

    A California vice-mayor’s declaration that July should be “straight pride” month has resulted in calls for his resignation or recall and threats of a demonstration at the next city council meeting.

    https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jul/8/ted-hickman-vice-mayor-dixon-california-proclaims-/

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  31. Farm Boy says:

    Intelligent women should consider marrying less clever men if they want to start a family, according to researchers.

    There are simply not enough brainy men to go round – so women may need to widen their search, warned the author of a report that found a growing number of professional women were freezing their eggs because they couldn’t find ‘Mr Right’.

    ‘There are fewer educated men in the world for educated women to partner with,’ said Marcia Inhorn, professor of anthropology at Yale University.

    ‘So if women want to find a partner with whom they can have children, they need a more expansive notion of who is Mr Right.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5929855/Smart-women-need-marry-mothers-researchers-warn.html

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  32. Farm Boy says:

    “The sooner society lets go of the college degree as some sort of marker of success, the better the situation for women seeking their mate will become. The numbers won’t seem so jarring and the sad tales of women unable to find their equal will dissipate. Love shouldn’t have prerequisites. And a four-year college degree — one that often comes saddled with a side of serious relationship-poisoning debt — shouldn’t be the mark of a suitable suitor.”

    https://nypost.com/2015/09/13/why-the-lack-of-eligible-bachelors-is-a-myth/

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  33. Farm Boy says:

    Beautiful, hilly San Francisco has become known as the city where 20 pounds of poop were dumped on a sidewalk last week in a clear bag and remained there for hours. As The Post noted, “human waste-related complaints in San Francisco have skyrocketed 400 percent from 2008 to 2018,” and “In 2017 alone, more than 21,000 reports were received.”

    What happened in San Francisco is obvious. It stopped prosecuting quality-of-life offenses and, unsurprisingly, the quality of life for the city’s residents and visitors decreased sharply.

    In 2015, San Francisco courts stopped enforcing bench warrants for such offenses. Police continued writing up tickets for public drunkenness or sleeping in parks, but when the accused failed to show up to their court appearance a judge simply dismissed the outstanding warrant.

    New York started following San Francisco’s lead in 2016 when Manhattan DA Cyrus Vance Jr. announced his office would no longer be prosecuting offenses such as public urination. Both cities have accepted that they’ll continue to have a large number of people living on their streets and inevitably using their sidewalks as a toilet.

    https://nypost.com/2018/07/08/san-franciscos-crisis-looks-like-new-yorks-future/

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  34. Farm Boy says:

    A British doctor who started training in May to become a health and disability assessor for the government department was fired for stating that gender is determined at birth.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/32777/british-doctor-fired-stating-gender-determined-hank-berrien

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  35. Farm Boy says:

    Abortion, says Ruiz, is a “basic human right” that “intersects” with queer rights. The feminist is proud to have had two abortions and says she’s Catholic.

    “If people with uteruses don’t have access to abortion, we’re not having a sexual liberation,” she told feminist site Jezebel. “And we’re all f***ing; and we’re past a binary.”

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/32764/watch-feminists-thank-god-abortion-movement-amanda-prestigiacomo

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  36. Farm Boy says:

    The University of Southern California will have to pay over $100,000 to a student accused of rape, a Monday report revealed.

    Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Elizabeth Allen White ruled that USC’s Title IX investigation into a student identified as “John Doe” in the lawsuit was not “fair, thorough, reliable, neutral and impartial,” according to The College Fix. The school will need to pay the student $111,965 in attorney’s fees.

    USC’s Title IX officials forgot to hang up after speaking with Doe over the phone and called him a “motherf**ker” and his accuser, “Roe,” “a catch.”

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/07/09/usc-six-figure-judgment-calling-accused-student-motherfker/

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  37. Cheque d'Out says:

    Peerless Moron is occasionally right about something

    [Even though sometimes right he is
    America wants him back not]

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  38. earl says:

    “Wright suggests women add a female judge emoji to their “dating profiles” to “show people you won’t date/sleep with anyone who doesn’t support a woman’s right to choose.”

    I don’t support the woman’s right to choose to be a murderer. And to show my lack of sexism cred…I don’t support the man’s right to choose murder either.

    And if that means these wanton murder supporters actually stop slutting around for a while…it’s worth it.

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  39. Cill says:

    Phil Goff (left wing mayor of Auckland) bans Lauren Southern and Stefan Molyneux from speaking at any council venues:

    https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/361220/far-right-pair-banned-from-speaking-at-auckland-council-venues-phil-goff

    This has created a huge storm. Few kiwis know who Southern and Molyneux are, but petitions are being arranged against the ban. Donations are being sent to a fund for a legal challenge to the ban. Goff is the most unpopular man in NZ right now.

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  40. Cill says:

    Goff didn’t ban Muslim speakers from preaching anti-West crap in council venues.

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  41. Farm Boy says:

    Of course West’s answers are lame–“real” socialism has never been tried, blah, blah, blah. You could infer from this that West is an idiot and, if he were arguing in good faith, that would be a fair assessment.

    But I think the truth is worse. I think the leaders of the socialist movement are perfectly well aware that the inevitable result of socialism is tyranny and mass poverty. But for them, this isn’t a bug, it is a feature. In fact, it is the whole point. Socialism is now, and always has been, a pretext under which power-mad psychopaths seize power and terrorize their fellow humans.

    Viewed with cold realism, socialism works very well for those who bring it about. It worked for Lenin and Stalin. It almost worked for Trotsky, but socialism is like “Game of Thrones”–it is a risky business. It didn’t work for the Old Bolsheviks for the same reason: they lost out to the more vicious and more power-crazed socialist, Stalin. It worked for Yezhov, Yagoda and Beria, although they, too, lost out after years of demented revels. It worked for Khruschev, Brezhnev and Andropov.

    Socialism worked for Mao. It worked for Fidel Castro. It worked for Erich Honecker and Nicolae Ceaușescu, until the very end. It worked for Adolf Hitler and Benito Mussolini, again with sad ends that didn’t inflict anywhere near enough pain to negate the years of glory and power that went before. It worked for Hugo Chavez, who like Castro, parlayed socialism into a multi-billion dollar fortune, and it has worked so far for Nicolas Maduro. All of these psychopaths, and many others, got exactly what they wanted out of socialism. From their point of view, it is a successful ideology.

    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/07/actually-socialism-does-work.php

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  42. Farm Boy says:

    I wonder what Ms. May is doing now…

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  43. earl says:

    “If people with uteruses don’t have access to abortion, we’re not having a sexual liberation,” she told feminist site Jezebel. “And we’re all f***ing; and we’re past a binary.”

    At least she’s honest (with the first part of the sentence…second part sounds like desperation)…sexual immorality always leads to child sacrifice.

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  44. Farm Boy says:

    OZYFest, which describes itself as “part music festival, part TED talk, part food fair,” just announced its 2018 lineup, and it’s a doozy.

    For a mere $134, the cost of a 2-day general admission ticket, you can enjoy a weekend of terrible music, overpriced street-cart food, and a host of lectures from the likes of Hillary Clinton, Chelsea Handler, “comedienne” Michelle Wolff, far-left author Roxane Gay, Jemele Hill — the ESPN anchor best known for calling President Donald Trump a white supremacist on Twitter — and that guy who hosts Trivia HQ.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/32798/hillary-clinton-chelsea-handler-headline-worst-emily-zanotti

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  45. Farm Boy says:

    Apparently there is no “women’s union”

    Chelsea Handler said that Trump administration officials Sarah Sanders, Kellyanne Conway and Stephen Miller could all benefit from “being held in cages.”

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/07/09/chelsea-handler-says-trump-cages/

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  46. Farm Boy says:

    Real or fake?

    “This is the patriarchy and toxic masculinity at its fucking finest,” says Rebecca Green, the company’s now-former art director. “I feel righteous and angry. I feel supported by my coworkers and friends. I also feel tired. I feel incredibly sorry knowing that there are survivors in this office who were led to believe that their contributions to this company were directly going to creating a safe space and platform for survivors, feminists, and marginalized identities. As an artist myself creating work based on my own experiences with the patriarchy, toxic masculinity, and harassment for this company — and by extension this man — I feel used and willfully mislead.“

    https://www.refinery29.com/2018/07/203982/feminist-apparel-ceo-alan-martofel-fires-staff

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  47. thedeti says:

    Dalrock has done a lot of posts on this.

    The weakened signal is one

    Essentially the posts talk about how men are not getting the “signals” from women or anyone else that “hey, it’s time to grow up, it’s time to get responsible, you’ll get a wife, you’ll get a family, you’ll have your own house/stuff/car/whatever else. So let’s start getting a wee bit serious about things and put away our childish things, K?”

    And a lot of those signals came from the women about their age, signaling sexual attraction, which signaled:

    “I am ready for marriage, I find you sexually attractive, I want to have sex with you, but I need to get married first. I am ready for all that. I want that. I want all that WITH YOU.”

    She would do things like cook for him, get him gifts, spend time with him, etc. which signaled:

    “I can cook meals. I have domestic skills. I am ready, willing and able to deploy those skills in our mutual service and in a home we make together. I am ready to take care of a home. I will be a good steward of your resources. I respect you and your time. I know it is valuable.”

    And other kinds of signals.

    Men don’t receive those signals anymore. So, what are women signaling now?

    “I might be ready for marriage sometime, but NOT YET. Everything has to be perfect before I will consider marriage. Time, jobs, apartment, money, friends, education levels, kids — all have to be perfectly in place before I will even think about marriage to anyone.

    “I want to have sex with attractive men. If you are hot, I will want sex. If you are not hot, I might want sex, if and only if you commit and go all in with your time and resources, and you have to put it all on the table first.

    “If I have sex with you, whether you are hot or not hot, I expect you to give me the relationship I want, whether that be fuckbuddies, marriage, or anything in between. You are required to compensate me for the sex I give you.

    “If I am in any way dissatisfied with you, I will blame you. Nothing is my fault, ever. You are required to give me what I want, when I want, and how I want it.

    “I am not going to cook or clean for you. That’s not my job. I don’t have domestic skills and I don’t really want to develop any. If we have a home together, great, just so long as we can leave the relationship if we’re not getting what we want. I don’t respect you or your time; but you damn well better respect me and my time. My time is valuable; I don’t care what value you put on your time.”

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  48. mgtowhorseman says:

    Deti

    Agreed re Dalrocks great coverage.

    And you nailed the signals being sent to which the men are saying…”um nah.”

    The fact that mgtow, hookup and babydaddy are actual words just go to show how men are responding to these signals.

    As I said way above
    “Yup. Not seeing the downside for an individual man in the new world order.
    Society is fucked but the individual man can have a blast”

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