Don’t Do This


Over at RPG’s, she recommends the website The Rules Revisited.  So what are the Rules, and why did they need to be revisited.  Go here to find the Rules.

When I first read the Rules, I there was one that struck me as particularly ludicrous, basically it was about being flaky on purpose.  Do stuff like “be late”, “don’t show up”, “don’t return his calls”, etc.  The idea was to make you more mysterious and supposedly increase your value by what is effectively “negging him”.

Let us consider how this might work.  If a guy’s goal is some near term activity, he might put up with this; especially if he is not a fella who can easily attract women for this purpose.  Perhaps, acting flaky increases her value in his eyes, but that really does not matter so much.  He just wants some action, and “value” isn’t overly important to him.

The whole idea behind the Rules is to catch a man for the long term.  This is way more difficult for a woman to do than just finding some guy to have sex with.  It is so difficult that self-help books are needed.  Here is a very important assumption: If a woman wants commitment from a man she needs to present to him a picture of what a man looking for a long term commitment wants.  Here comes the punch line: these men do not want flaky women; not at least for the long haul.  End of story.  Revise Rules.

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96 comments on “Don’t Do This
  1. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:

    the only rule needed, is the “Ben Stern rule” !

    “don’t be stupid, you moron!”

    it really covers everything. all of those other rules just make people act in ways other than the way they really are.

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  2. SFC Ton says:

    Again this is about women wanting to be apex alphas then unhappy when it doesn’t work as well for them as it does for men

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  3. I think the woman who write the book was trying to advise women to not be so easy, so available. But yes, likely that it was projection. Having standards and being a lady are good, playing head games is not.

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  4. Also, ACTUALLY having standards and ACTUALLY being a lady are good, pretending to be so just to trap a guy into marriage, not good.

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  5. earl says:

    ‘Do stuff like “be late”, “don’t show up”, “don’t return his calls”, etc.’

    Show how rebellious you are that you won’t even respond to his simple requests…that’ll make a man go ga ga over you.

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  6. Dont be a self centred know it all bitch.

    Market to what your audience wants.

    Dont use what you are selling as a weapon.

    Speak the fucking truth

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  7. Shortest fucking book in history.

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  8. earl says:

    ‘Shortest fucking book in history.’

    Yeah to me it goes like this:

    Be humble.
    Show traits of being submissive.
    Be thankful.
    Be God fearing.

    And I’d add stay in shape and have the desire to be a wife and mother and that’s pretty much all they need.

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  9. Farm Boy says:

    You guys have it figured out. If only women could comprehend…

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  10. earl says:

    [Of course Ms. May has kids not.
    A robot she would be]

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  11. earl says:

    Not the Onion.

    ‘Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey forced to apologize for eating Chick-fil-A during Pride Month’

    http://www.businessinsider.com/twitter-ceo-apology-chick-fil-a-gay-pride-month-2018-6

    Maybe it’s better to be a nobody instead of a CEO of a company. You don’t have to apologize for stupid stuff like eating a chicken sandwich and offending the gays because that’s a demographic who controls you. You can just eat the sandwich.

    [Wonder if “peak SJW” this is I do]

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  12. earl says:

    Trump confirms what we all think of Trudeau.

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  13. Stephanie says:

    I remember reading “The Rules” …. it was maybe a grade “C” compared to that much older book my mom gave me.

    Here’s a breakdown:

    The Rules
    -Told you to be evasive to not show interest or at least not too much, to be flaky
    -Told you how to dress and what to do or not do on dates (which may or may not apply to different situations)

    Older Book I Had
    -Actually went chapter by chapter teaching you how to understand men’s most critical needs and desires in life
    -Taught you how to respond or even help a man you’re interested in, achieve his goals by being his supporter (teaching you how to be a supportive wife)
    -Taught you how to see qualities in all men that were good and admirable and attractive
    -Taught you the value of actual character and morals and being a good woman

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  14. Farm Boy says:

    Stephanie,

    What book was that?

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  15. earl says:

    I’d almost bet you the older book was published before 1960.

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  16. Cheque d'Out says:

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  17. Interesting “The Rules” led to this, according to the wiki post:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seduction_community
    Games go both ways!

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  18. Cheque d'Out says:

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  19. earl says:

    ‘The rise of “seduction science”, “game”, or “studied charisma”, as it is often called, has been attributed to the “chaotic” modern dating scene reportedly as a result of the increased empowerment and equality of women in western society and changes to traditional gender roles combined with the influence of distinct biological imperatives in men and women.’

    Yeah so rather than call out women on their bad behavior…men recreated something to go along with it.

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  20. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:

    how ridiculous. apologizing over a sammich?

    This is another example of just how intolerant the ‘progressives’ are of differing opinions.

    they ARE what they claim everyone else is. Tyrants filled with hatred in their hearts.

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  21. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:

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  22. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:

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  23. Stephanie says:

    It is called The Fascinating Girl and it was published later on, but it is comprised of pamphlets written in the 1920’s.

    It was sooooo good!!!! Still have it and my daughter is definitely going to read it.

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  24. Stephanie says:

    let me find a link. The author wrote one for married women ( I have that too) and it’s even better!!

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  25. Stephanie says:

    So that first one is for unmarrried women.

    This to me is much better for wives!

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  26. Stephanie says:

    That latter book even covers how bad it is for women to not submit to their husbands… or try to get him to get on board with her own plans that he’s against. It even gives marriage examples.

    I’m telling you… it is SO good!

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  27. copperfox3c says:

    In a world where men have been increasingly feminized, and most modern young men in the West lack healthy boundaries when dealing with women, this sort of flaky behavior DOES WORK. But that is more an indictment of how we are raising are boys these days.

    We desire what we chase … and most young men these days are being taught that women are the “goal” in life, rather than the by-product of a life well lived.

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  28. Farm Boy says:

    Who’d a thunk?

    Actor Robert De Niro and Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau have teamed up to re-elect President Trump. As if working in concert, the duo made their initial contributions to the Trump campaign within hours of each other over the past weekend.

    https://spectator.org/de-niro-and-trudeau-campaign-for-trump/

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  29. Farm Boy says:

    Woodruff: I assume you think that what happened with you was more serious than what happened with Senator — former Senator Al Franken. He was driven from office, from the U.S. Senate. So, norms have changed. Do you think that’s a good thing?

    Clinton: Well, in general, I think it’s a good thing, yes. I think it’s a good thing that we should all have higher standards. I think the norms have really changed in terms of, what you can do to somebody against their will

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/31710/bill-clinton-makes-most-amazing-freudian-slip-ever-hank-berrien

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  30. Farm Boy says:

    Over the weekend, Kaling gave a commencement address at Dartmouth College, her alma mater, wherein she gave some horrifying, radical feminist-inspired dating advice to men.

    “This one is just for guys: When you go on dates, act as if every woman you’re talking to is a reporter for an online publication that you are scared of,” said Kaling. “One shouldn’t need the threat of public exposure and scorn to treat women well; but if that’s what it’s gonna take, fine. Date like everyone’s watching, because we are.”

    Kaling is a comic and there is surely an air of jest to her comments, but her adversarial view of the sexes is sincere. According to Kaling, and most feminists, men should be terrified to pursue women. If a man falters or says something interpreted in a way a woman does not like, their words can and should be used against them.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/31705/actress-mindy-kaling-gives-horrifying-dating-amanda-prestigiacomo

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  31. Farm Boy says:

    A law professor at Syracuse University said the school “betrayed” its duty to uphold free speech and slammed its “scripted” kangaroo court after Syracuse gave 15 students one or two-year suspensions for videos deemed offensive.

    Syracuse law professor Gregory Germain said the school appointed him as a “procedural adviser” to some of the accused students during hearings, but that he could not speak during the hearings, according to The Washington Post.

    “I asked, but the university never explained, how these skits could constitute physical violence, harassment or threats when the only response of the audience was laughter,” Germain said.

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/12/law-prof-syracuse-free-speech/

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  32. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:

    i think that is excellent advice!

    because if a man is smart, he’d never talk to a reporter that he is scared of!

    guess what, Mindy? you’ve just lowered every woman’s SMV and MMV, all by yourself!

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  33. earl says:

    Yeah if that’s how women acted…there would be no need for negs, fuzzy hats, and trying to out rebel her.

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  34. thedeti says:

    The Rules (the Fein/Schneider Rules) is great advice for women looking for a beta bux, for weak men, for unattractive men. It’s a recipe for a dead bedroom and later divorce.

    Trust me, ladies – if you want to find a man you can control and manipulate, use The Rules. If you want to settle for an unattractive man because you need somebody, anybody, to marry you, use The Rules. There are still beta simps out there who will dance to your tunes, put up with your crap, and give you whatever you want when you want.

    The Rules breaks two of my cardinal rules for women:

    –be nice

    –be available

    Basically, it tells women they should act aloof, uninterested, bitchy, and unavailable. The only men women get by being these things are beta simp chumps who can’t get anything better.

    Men, you see a woman obviously using The Rules, RUN away. Do not walk. Do not saunter. RUN away.

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  35. earl says:

    ‘Basically, it tells women they should act aloof, uninterested, bitchy, and unavailable.’

    Heck that’s basically what game teaches for men. No wonder the only thing that is happening is hookups & fights between the two. That type of behavior certainly doesn’t lead to anything meaningful in a relationship.

    I suppose if you want to control and manipulate the other person both methods are great…but I can’t see any long term success from either. The leadership-submit method is what you need for that.

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  36. thedeti says:

    The Rules is just one form of girl game. It was probably a response to these women who lived and worked in the NYC/DC megalopolis corridor, dealing with very attractive men with options. Be more aloof, be more unavailable, make him chase you, be kind of bitchy. It makes those men more intrigued for a while until something easier comes along, and then they ghost the Rules-follower.

    What The Rules gets for commitment is a man who looks good to her for a while – nice, kind, compliant, giving. But it’s an overcorrection to a man she has little to no sexual attraction for, which is the price she pays for a man who treats her like a princess and slavishly serves her every whim.

    What Stephanie mentioned, and what was traditional advice for hundreds of years on how to get men, is another form of girl game, and one that typically works to get her the best man she can.

    –be nice

    –be pretty

    –don’t get fat

    –be available

    Don’t be a bitch. Look your best. And if you’re interested in the guy, show him you’re interested. When he asks you out, you say YES and you work your schedule around his. If you can’t go that night, you offer an alternative; you don’t just say “can’t that night”.

    You work to understand men and what they want and need from a woman. And you understand what their trump card is and how to get it. And you understand what your trump card is and you don’t tear off a piece of that trump card and give it to every hot guy who shows up.

    It’s a tightrope walk, it really is. It’s difficult. But women just have to learn how to do it. Again.

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  37. Cill says:

    “I think that is excellent advice!”

    I agree.

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  38. Stephanie says:

    Wrote a reply to advice given to women in my position, who want more kids, but their husband’s don’t…
    http://girlwithadragonflytattoo.com/2018/06/12/when-you-want-more-kids-but-your-husband-doesnt/

    It is a little hard. But it’s something we discussed from the beginning and already decided on 🙂 .

    It’s weird to me that the quote I use from the blogger who advised women in my position on this topic, actually questions the husband’s faith and trust in God – when in reality, this topic has more to do with (in my opinion) the **wife’s** faith and trust in God in being able to follow her husband’s decisions and submit to him as the head of their family.

    It’s strange how Christians can turn that on it’s head and make it the husband’s flaw and give a wife full license to criticize him “constantly remind him” (aka: nag him constantly), and then at the end of her post, even threaten him with the happiness of their marriage!!!!!!!

    How can they not see how wrong that is? And how it’s a recipe for disaster???

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  39. Stephanie says:

    And we’re just heading out to go to my parents’ ❤ ❤

    My mom is one who encourages me too to just be thankful for all the children God HAS given us already! And to be so thankful that we'll be able to provide a lot easier for 4, than if we had 8.

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  40. Fnu Mnu Lnu says:

    strange, but not surprising. is it?

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  41. Farm Boy says:

    The author of the article in question is Helen Wilson, Ph.D. She holds a doctorate in feminist studies and is the lead researcher at the Portland Ungendering Research Initiative. Her paper is entitled, “Human reactions to rape culture and queer performativity at urban dog parks in Portland, Oregon.” Since that doesn’t actually mean anything, and performativity isn’t even a word, I’ll summarize: She hung around some dogs parks for a year and watched a ton of dogs having sex.

    Wilson goes on to say a couple more incomprehensible things like “human geographies” and “geographies of sexuality” and to call dog owners “human companions” before revealing three questions that her article will attempt to answer. Here they are:

    1. How do human companions manage, contribute, and respond to violence in dogs?

    2. What issues surround queer performativity and human reaction to homosexual sex between and among dogs?

    3. Do dogs suffer oppression based upon (perceived) gender?

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/doctor-of-feminist-studies-gropes-10k-dogs-to-study-rape-culture-at-dog-parks/

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  42. Farm Boy says:

    When Nadal was asked about the male and female tennis players being paid “equally,” he dismissed the idea on its face and said pay should be based on what the athletes bring, using viewership as the example metric.

    “In tennis, should women earn as much as men?” asked the Italian interviewer.

    “It’s a comparison we shouldn’t even make,” he answered. “Female models earn more than male models and nobody says anything. Why? Because they have a larger following. In tennis too, who gathers a larger audience earns more.”

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/31725/tennis-star-rafael-nadal-effortlessly-debunks-amanda-prestigiacomo

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  43. Farm Boy says:

    Yes, pride is a sin

    Russell Berger, CrossFit’s de-facto spokesman, was fired last week after he praised the decision of a CrossFit gym in Indianapolis that chose not to host a workout for the city’s pride week.

    “As someone who personally believes celebrating ‘pride’ is a sin, I’d like to personally encourage #CrossFitInfiltrate for standing by their convictions and refusing to host an @indypride workout,” read a now-deleted tweet that led to Berger’s termination.

    https://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/06/10/crossfit-exec-fired-for-claiming-lgbtq-pride-is-a-sin-speaks-out-and-hes-holding-nothing-back

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  44. earl says:

    Yup if you are anybody…you will be shot down if you dont support groupthink. Isn’t actual tyranny grand?

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  45. Farm Boy says:

    Earl,

    You will be made to care.

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  46. earl says:

    ‘A wife’s physical attractiveness predicts her husband’s and her marital satisfaction’

    https://deepstrength.wordpress.com/2018/06/12/a-wifes-physical-attractiveness-predicts-her-husbands-and-her-marital-satisfaction/

    ‘The two are:

    Staying physically attractive has health benefits (presumably over being overweight or obese) which is true.
    Husbands with more physically attractive wives treat them better (which is generally objectively true).

    In reference to the second one, both men and women treat those they find attractive better than those they find unattractive. This is a bias that spans across all of culture not just in relationships. Men and women who are attractive find that others are more willing to treat them politely and gratefully, are more willing to do things for them, and are more willing to give the benefit of the doubt in both public and private. First impressions are strong.’

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  47. Farm Boy says:

    Then, of course, there is the emotional charge. Social media designers manipulate people’s emotions to keep them “addicted” to their products. (I put “addicted” in quotes, but really, that’s what it is.) People get used to this and — as with addicts in general — ordinary life seems drab by comparison. They’re always looking for another little charge of excitement, anger or whatever.

    As a recent Scott Adams cartoon has Dilbert saying: “My digital devices have reduced my attention span so much I can barely concentrate on work. I need a dopamine hit every four seconds or I look for something else to do.”

    His co-worker’s reply: “Would you mind terribly if I play with my phone while you drone on and on?”

    Many a true word is spoken in jest, and this cartoon does seem to reflect reality. Americans on average check their phones 80 times a day; for millennials, it’s 150 times. And people do seem to get riled up more easily in recent years.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/06/12/smartphones-social-media-making-society-less-thoughtful-now-what-column/688496002/

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  48. Farm Boy says:

    Don’t do this either

    Her father really noticed how dire the situation had become when he found her sitting “in a puddle of her own urine.”

    She was still playing the game.

    “I found her backside was red raw. She was so hooked to the game she wouldn’t even go to the toilet,” said her mother.

    Their daughter then explained that she had been frequently staying up all night, often playing ten hours a day.

    https://pjmedia.com/parenting/9-year-old-in-rehab-after-choosing-video-game-fortnite-over-the-bathroom/

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  49. Farm Boy says:

    “Robert De Niro, a very Low IQ individual, has received to many shots to the head by real boxers in movies. I watched him last night and truly believe he may be ‘punch-drunk,'” smacked Trump, adding that De Niro fails to “realize the economy is the best it’s ever been with employment being at an all time high, and many companies pouring back into our country.”

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/31777/punch-drunk-trump-hits-back-de-niro-hard-amanda-prestigiacomo

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  50. earl says:

    The epic blue pill failure. And this is Saudi Arabia…so it isn’t like this is happening in Femerica. Just goes to show you can’t do this with any woman from any culture.

    ‘Wife gets divorce from man who loved her more than his mother ‘

    http://saudigazette.com.sa/article/525255/SAUDI-ARABIA/Wife-gets-divorce-from-man-who-loved-her-more-than-his-mother

    ‘The woman admitted that her husband had spent a lot of money on her, taking her on foreign trips and buying her everything she wanted, but said she did not want to continue her life with him.

    “A man who is not good to his own mother cannot be trusted. He may turn his back on me anytime in the future,” she said.

    The surprised husband asked her, “Didn’t I abandon my own family for you?”

    She replied, “Yes, and this is the very reason I want divorce from you.”

    The woman told the judge that everything her husband said in the court was correct but she was determined to leave him because he preferred her over his family members, including his mother.

    She told the judge that she could not wait until the day her husband would abandon her the same way he had abandoned his mother.

    The woman returned the dowry her husband had given her and the judge granted the divorce.

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  51. earl says:

    Feminist Professor: ‘Why Can’t We Hate Men?’

    https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/feminist-professor-why-cant-we-hate-men

    ‘Suzanna Danuta Walters, a sociology professor and editor-in-chief of Signs, which describes itself as an “international journal in women’s studies,” wrote in The Washington Post in a piece titled “Why Can’t We Hate Men?” that men should step down from all positions of leadership and deserve to be hated.

    So men, if you really are #WithUs and would like us to not hate you for all the millennia of woe you have produced and benefited from, start with this: Lean out so we can actually just stand up without being beaten down. Pledge to vote for feminist women only. Don’t run for office. Don’t be in charge of anything. Step away from the power. We got this. And please know that your crocodile tears won’t be wiped away by us anymore. We have every right to hate you.’

    And we have every right to hate feminists…because they are finally pulling off the equality mask to reveal what they truly are.

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  52. Farm Boy says:

    You don’t have to believe in God to believe this

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  53. RichardP says:

    @Stephanie said And we’re just heading out to go to my parents

    Have you written anywhere the story about the reconciliation between you and your parents? If so, can you share a link? If you haven’t written that story, I encourage you to do so at some point. It will be instructive for your daughter to read at some point.

    In my early twenties I was around a number of girls who fell out with their mothers around the age of 18. Some mothers even asked their daughter to leave home. All felt that the world had ended. And, in a certain sense, it had. Their world of childhood had ended. By the age of 22 or so, all had re-established connection with their mothers – but adult to adult connection rather than what had been before, a child to adult connection.

    From what little I have seen of your story, that seems to be the case in your situation as well. But I only know a little of the story, so maybe I’m wrong?

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  54. SFC Ton says:

    LOL I always thought communism and fascism was man acting like God

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  55. Stephanie says:

    “Have you written anywhere the story about the reconciliation between you and your parents? If so, can you share a link? If you haven’t written that story, I encourage you to do so at some point. It will be instructive for your daughter to read at some point.”

    I haven’t. Not in full detail at least 🙂 It wasn’t like some glorious story or anything LOL… and it’s so difficult because there are so many tiny details (like how my dad truly felt, versus how my mom did… then how they felt afterward… it’s kind of like a tangled mess).

    To do it right, I’d have to get my parents’ side also 🙂 Probably I’ll include it in my daughter’s book, but not for public reading 😉

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  56. Farm Boy says:

    “Boy, some of the answers have been just — you couldn’t — if you wanted to write the worst answer he could give – it is almost as if… That one he did today about whether or not you can grope people,” Tapper said.

    Tapper is referring to Clinton’s comments that, in his opinion, the norms around “what you can do to someone against their will” has changed.

    https://ntknetwork.com/tapper-im-amazed-at-how-poorly-bill-clinton-has-handled-the-metoo-movement/

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  57. RichardP says:

    @Stephanie said Probably I’ll include it in my daughter’s book, but not for public reading.

    I get that. I should have been more clear that I was just wondering if the birth of your first baby had anything to do with getting the reconciliation process started.

    Also – you write to women. There may be those reading that are like the ones I described above – still alienated from their mothers and not yet reconciled. A story such as yours, no matter how generally described (that is, lacking the detail you don’t want to make public), might give them hope for the time they also might be reconciled to their mother or parents.

    At any rate, it is good to know that you can go to your parents.

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  58. Stephanie says:

    “I was just wondering if the birth of your first baby had anything to do with getting the reconciliation process started.”

    They wanted back in my life almost a couple of months after! So it repaired itself very quickly.

    It was easy for me to forgive them. I mean… they’re just people and flawed like anyone else. And they were SOOOO good for 20 years – and we had a very close relationship all those years, so in my opinion, it was easier to mend due to that.

    It is easier to forgive people when you understand they’re just human.

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  59. Stephanie says:

    I get it that you think maybe my story can help others. I don’t know about online, but in real life, I’ve already been able to mentor 2 wonderful younger women who went through that! It was the best experience ever, helping them get through it and then reconciling with their parents.

    Honestly… that kind of thing probably works best in real life where they can call you, text you, or even stay at your house when they’re kicked out. Both times my husband and I offered up our house 😀 It was so cool!

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  60. Stephanie says:

    I probably sound demented saying it “was so cool.” I mean that it’s just really neat to be in that position where you actually help younger women who were maybe in your position. Really neat to see it come full circle where now, I can give back in some way.

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  61. Cill says:

    I’ve seen men react to flaky behavior the way women want. Reward the behavior and it will repeat. It’s a reminder that when it comes to women, the average bloke is a chump.

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  62. earl says:

    Heaven Help the “Marginally Attractive Man”

    http://captaincapitalism.blogspot.com/2018/06/heaven-help-marginally-attractive-man.html

    The shocker or not so shocking…most men find more women in the attractive range whereas most women find most men in the uglier than sin range.

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  63. earl says:

    ‘Mock them all you want the MGTOW’s/VirginTOW’s/Incels/TFL’ers are NOT wasting their time chasing women they can’t get. Yes, they may be wasting their time obsessing and hating on women they can’t get, but they’re not actually wasting their time chasing them. This frees up inordinate amounts of time and resources they could repurpose and reinvest in other endeavors that will improve their lives – working out, their careers, their educations, fun, home maintenance, auto maintenance, traveling/reconnaissance, etc.

    On the other side of the looks spectrum you have the few top dogs and alpha males that women “graciously” deem “better than average.” I know statistically speaking this is 20%, but even 20% may not be high enough given women’s hypergamous genetic programming. I’d argue you’d need to be top 10%. Regardless of the actual number, once you reach this “magical percentage threshhold” women WILL throw themselves at you. I’ve witnessed this many times with a good friend of mine who is hands down a 10. Women will literally walk up to him and ask him to take them home. We were hiking one time and a girl propositioned him right there on the hiking trail. Admittedly, he puts a lot of effort into his physique, but it’s a phenomenon very similar to a job hunt and majoring in engineering. If you’re willing to put forth the effort into getting a hard degree, the rest of the world does the work for you in landing a job. And if you’re willing to spend a couple hours at the gym, women will beat a path to your doorstep, even tying a cute little red bow to their vaginas as they present it to you as a gift. That larger point is that the time/labor/resource savings are IMMENSE if you are a top 10% good looking guy. Women do all the work for you, you don’t have to lift a finger (though you do have to lift the weights).

    But if you’re a 6.5 or a 7.5, or you’re a solid 9, but 5’7″ you are in for a world of hell. Because you are neither too ugly to give up on women, nor are you too good looking that they beat a path to your door. This condemns you to expend inordinate amounts of labor and resources chasing girls.’

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  64. Larry G says:

    Earl, “you have the few top dogs and alpha males that women “graciously” deem “better than average.” I know statistically speaking this is 20%, but even 20% may not be high enough given women’s hypergamous genetic programming. I’d argue you’d need to be top 10%. ”

    Even “top dogs” will die eventually.

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  65. earl says:

    The more this stuff comes out…the more I see the wisdom in the father choosing which guy she marries or arranged marriages. Obviously women are clueless when they make the decision.

    There is no way on God’s green earth the majority of men are physically unattractive. But I suppose if you think you are a goddess and let the hypergamy do the talking…you would think the majority of men are unattractive.

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  66. Larry G says:

    Oh man! “the more I see the wisdom in the father choosing which guy she marries or arranged marriages. Obviously women are clueless when they make the decision.”

    and that, Earl, is EXACTLY how I got my wife. Me and her father negotiated the bride price and family gifts, a date was set and the engagement period was started. After it was all done, my bride to be was escorted into the room and was informed she would be married. Groom, meet bride. Bride, meet groom.

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  67. Farm Boy says:

    In trouble with the law since the day he was born

    It’s hard to live your dreams when you are in court constantly and/or jailed for “owing” money to a woman. What about the other men who have no way to speak out or get help? They get put in jail all the time for not paying child support and possibly alimony though the latter would be more rare I would think (hope).

    No man should be put in jail for owing alimony. And frankly, nobody should pay alimony; it is an antiquated concept and should be abolished.

    https://pjmedia.com/drhelen/why-is-john-schneider-being-jailed-for-not-paying-alimony/

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  68. SFC Ton says:

    One of the few advantages for men in the mating game is our looks don’t count for as much with women as the other way round.

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  69. SFC Ton says:

    You don’t go to jail for not paying alimony

    You go to jail for contempt of court….. The contempt being not following through on paying alimony

    A good friend of mine is dealing with that. Lost his 92-104k a year aviation job. Now he is only making $26an hour but still owes alimony at the old rate. He pays a small amount, just often enough to stay out of the contempt of court deal but has to go to some extent to hide the money he is saving up these days. Like… he puts all his extra money into his house because here in NC they will not force you out of your personal home. They will make you sell a rent house, cash out your 401k, sell your second car etc etc. Solo his kid owns the truck he drives, she owns his share of our used car lot, he buys gold and silver vs stocks and bonds etc et.

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  70. SFC Ton says:

    Give how much information is exchanged non verbally ie body language I would say most men are unattractive from the female pov

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  71. Farm Boy says:

    One wonders why there is a debate. It is just plain stupid. It is clear what side one should be on

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  72. SFC Ton says:

    Why debate? Because women can vote and to dudes went to college

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  73. Farm Boy says:

    McGlynn takes political correctness one step further, citing yet another expert who says we need to stop teaching boys to be “chivalrous”:

    …the idea that women should be cherished and put on pedestals fosters what’s known as benevolent sexism, which subtly demeans women as fragile and less competent. It reinforces a sexual script in which a man takes charge while a woman remains passive

    https://pjmedia.com/parenting/male-feminist-declares-end-chivalry-now/

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  74. Farm Boy says:

    Real or fake?

    AUBURN, CA—Local 36-year-old man Nate Ripley, who identifies as a six-year-old, “absolutely crushed” a game-winning homer at a local tee-ball game and won the championship for his team Monday evening, reports confirmed.

    http://babylonbee.com/news/man-identifying-6-year-old-crushes-game-winning-homer-tee-ball-championship/

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  75. SFC Ton says:

    McGlynn takes political correctness one step further, citing yet another expert who says we need to stop teaching boys to be “chivalrous”:
    ….
    Agreed

    Teaching boys to be chivalrous just sets them up for failure.

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  76. Farm Boy says:

    Father’s Day is a day of tradition. In the secular world the tradition is to honor fathers on Father’s Day. In the modern Christian world, especially the conservative Christian world, the tradition is to mock fathers and expresses contempt for them on Father’s Day. But it is important to remember that the anti father Father’s Day sermon is a symptom, and not the disease.

    The disease is a profound contempt for fathers, especially married fathers. This condition exists largely beneath the surface the other 364 days of the year. Father’s Day provokes the disease, often driving it to the surface. Father’s Day is the day the urge to hide the condition is overwhelmed by the disgust at the sight of the culture honoring fathers in even the smallest ways.

    https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2018/06/12/fathers-day-sermons-are-the-symptom-not-the-disease/

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  77. RichardP says:

    @Stephanie said: I probably sound demented saying it “was so cool.”

    Not at all. I understand. We have had a number of folks in need of various kinds of help pass through our home also. I know well the feeling that you spoke of. Coupled with the feeling of grrrrrr that the help was needed to begin with (something to do with being angry about man’s inhumanity to man).

    Among other reasons for needing help, we’ve opened our home to several men who went off to work in the morning only to be served with a restraining order at work (wife “feared for her safety”) that prevented them from returning to the home that they paid for to even pick up a change of clothes. That is a meme discussed much around here and Dalrocks and Rollos place. I’ve seen it in operation up close and personal. It’s not pretty, and it does feel good to be able to help.

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  78. Farm Boy says:

    In Justin Trudeau’s soyboy haven of Canada, a judge has ruled that a child to a polyamorous couple has three parents, reports LifeSiteNews. The child now has one woman and two men as their legal parent.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/31817/polyamory-canadian-judge-rules-child-has-three-paul-bois

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  79. Farm Boy says:

    The University of California, Santa Barbara wants to teach four-year-olds to touch each other and watch porn, according to Fox News Wednesday.

    UCSB’s sociology department created material for parents to encourage their children to explore sexuality on the university’s online platform called SexInfo Online, Fox News reported. The website was created by students from the university who have studied human sexuality. The website includes several sections devoted to sexual education with a specific section devoted to adolescents called “Childhood Sexuality.”

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/13/california-university-sociology-department-children-porn/

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  80. An unexpected outcome of feminism — guys who have gone MTGOW and have inordinate time bc they are NOW chasing women are not creating memes and trolling and have upended power structures so entrenched, nobody thought it would ever be possible. Surprise! Lol.

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  81. Oops, are NOW creating memes…

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  82. RichardP says:

    The website includes several sections devoted to sexual education with a specific section devoted to adolescents called “Childhood Sexuality.

    They have a STEM education section – where they teach the young boys and girls to play doctor.

    [Probably Phd you mean not]

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  83. Farm Boy says:

    Among other reasons for needing help, we’ve opened our home to several men who went off to work in the morning only to be served with a restraining order at work (wife “feared for her safety”) that prevented them from returning to the home that they paid for to even pick up a change of clothes. That is a meme discussed much around here and Dalrocks and Rollos place. I’ve seen it in operation up close and personal. It’s not pretty, and it does feel good to be able to help.

    That was good of you. A couple of years ago I offered a room to a fella in a similar situation

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  84. Farm Boy says:

    A New Jersey State Trooper got a dose of serendipity Friday when he met the retired police officer who delivered him 27 years ago—by pulling him over.
    Trooper Michael Patterson stopped Matthew Bailly in Kingwood Township for driving with tinted windows, but never got around to giving the ticket, NJ.com reported.

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/06/07/new-jersey-trooper-pulls-over-driver-who-helped-deliver-him-27-years-ago.html

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  85. People who think little kids need to “explore their sexuality” are super whack. Like need to be in jail or worse. Children really don’t need to “explore” that until they are grown and married, pervs! As children they just need to explore the child world and the wonder of that which is all to brief already wo bringing sex and politics into it!

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