The present day thought for many (such as on college campuses) is that consent should be specific and written. One wonders if people have thought this through.
So we have some coeds making out, continually escalating, when he pulls out a form for her to sign. This would break the building crescendo, to both their disappointments. Furthermore, it is emasculating, ratcheting down her desire for him. So the question is, will this happen?
Often it will not. Both are operating in the heat of the moment, with little thought beyond the next few hours. Then, for her the regret might set in. As we saw in the last post, this is a very real possibility.
But there was not a signed form. If there is not a signed form, then it was not consensual, or so it will be said. This puts a fella in a lose-lose situation. Either he disrupts the process, possibly destroying the moment; or he risks being an ex-post-facto rapist.
So young men, be careful out there.
If a judge can nuke a pre-nup…why wouldn’t they be able to nuke a signed consent form.
She signed under duress or some other made up nonsense…we just live in an age of insanity.
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Legit Earl
Trap or not the whole fucking thing is weird as hell. I would think that signed letter of consent was y’all fucking around with this county boy if I hadn’t read about it many times before
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I am not sure what the answer is here. It is all in her head, and to communicate her intentions flies in the face of plausible deniability. When Moses wrote his code, women were responsible to call out for help if they were within earshot of help. Not that long ago, corroboration was required at trial. Finally, the whole purpose of enhancing the crime over that of assault and battery was to further discourage the possibility of bringing unwanted children into the world. That has been addressed.
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‘I am not sure what the answer is here.’
The Patriarchy
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Earl,
That is going to be a tough sell to women.
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there’s an apo for that!
just record the consent of both (or all) parties on facebook live, or instagram. that way you can see and hear exactly what their “enthusiam level” was.
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but there is an app for that !
just record both (or all parties) consenting to the debauchery on Facebook live or Instagram.
this way the judge and jury can see for themselves what each person‘s level of interest really was at the time.
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‘That is going to be a tough sell to women.’
I wasn’t selling it to women.
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finally, a legitimate reason to buy an apple watch!
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Earl,
God gave them free will.
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finally, a legitimate reason to buy an apple watch!
bwahahahahaha!
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seriously … this is really crazy.
gotta wonder where this is all going to end. it’s like an active volcano just hovering on the verge of erupting and spewing deadly lava all over the place.
just read an interesting novel set in the late 1700’s / early 1800’s poland based on an actual diary of a woman in the lower aristocracy. as it is written, there’s nothing new under the sun … slutty women are gonna be slutty women. it accurately described a woman without constraint aging into her 30’s and 40’s and finding herself alone (the diary author’s cousin – a comment by the book author was made that he was surprised the diary wasn’t made public except for the entries describing this woman’s numerous trysts). the need for the protection of men over women and children was well established.
the technology age we live in has changed a lot of things, but it hasn’t changed human nature … or the roles of men and women as defined by the Creator … or the need for women to be under the authority of men … or the reality that when we blatantly defy how we were created, everything goes bad-crazy.
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RPG has a new post
https://notesfromaredpillgirl.com/2018/02/19/stinking-thinking/
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Not only would that be too weird, pull out contracts and forms, but also what happens to it after? Do you make multiple copies so everyone has one? Do you need one for each and every future encounter or is it a one time thing? Would you keep it on file? Maybe people could later leaf thru them and relive the moments? Or would you need another consent form to do so? 😉
It is so ludicrous it would be funny if it wasn’t such a sad reflection of the state of the union today.
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Is there an official form? A boiler plate, so to speak? Or do you just write up your own version? Would a handwritten one count? Would it have checkboxes maybe? This is OK, this is not, this is negotiable… How do you prove later who really signed? Would notaries be needed? I mean I am not a lawyer by any means, but there seems to be a lot undefined about this official document defining consent.
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What if nobody has a pen? Or paper?
Would your very first consent form be extra special? Would it be wrong to frame it? Would it become some new right of passage? Would people someday compare consent form stacks? Is there a business opportunity to create the official consent form database, convienently stored forever in the cloud?
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What if nobody has a pen? Or paper?
Would your very first consent form be extra special? Would it be wrong to frame it? Would it become some new right of passage? Would people someday compare consent form stacks? Is there a business opportunity to create the official consent form database, convienently stored forever in the cloud?
lol! Bloom … your mind is working much better’n mine tonight! 🙂
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If someone signed your consent form and later became famous, would it be valuable? Could you sell it on eBay?
What if someone started using consent forms to blackmail people? Pay up or I am going to show this to everyone? Send it to your mom?
What if it’s a clandestine thing? Would cheaters want to sign anything? Create proof? Could it be admitted as evidence in divorce court?
I dunno if they have really thought this thing thru…
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just saw a news thing on cyclone Gita in NZ … hope our Kiwi friends are safe.
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If there was an official database, would people worry about the privacy of that info? What if it got hacked? Or if the database company then started to offer consent form background checks to anyone for a fee? Could you find out your partners official notch count? Exactly what you have consented to, when, and with whom? Could potential employers do so? Credit companies? Your mom?
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Me too Ame!
Cill and crew, all well? Thinking of you!
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Maybe the govt. could create a whole new beuracracy for storing and maintaining the official consent database? Jobs! Imagine how many consent forms there would be to process on a daily basis!?! Would you file that locally? State level? Nationally? Pay a small filing fee? Could the program fund itself, with the most sexually active paying more while the celibate pay nothing, or would it be more fair to spread it out equally via taxes? Would the forms become ever more complex, and be needed for more and more types of “acts” as a way to justify growing the dept?
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Would the forms be available in multiple languages?
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Yeah. Right.
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Jeremy Corbyn mentioned in records of communist regime spy/agent/useful mong handler.
An issue that the MSM is steadfastly ignoring.
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LOL!
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Latest BREXIT news
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One of the putative next leaders of the laba party (right) shown with another sack of spuds
Spuds = potatoes.
[Yes, big potatos she does have]
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Left school early due to being preggo. Currently laba shadow education minister mong. You couldn’t make it up if you tried.
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The distraction squirrel in action
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There is an answer to the Great Lord Humongous.
This is also good Molly bait.
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Does this mean that we have to watch a series of movies about Jeremy Corbyn?
Albert Broccoli is turning over in his grave.
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James Bond amounts to a huge intellectual export for the UK. It’s no wonder the Queen feigned jumping out of a helicopter with him in 2012. For those who may have a taste for true stories, this may be better. There are twelve episodes.
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Oops! Forgot the link.
A silly bear I am.
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This one is for Horseman. This installment may be the prelude to Diana dropping a bomb on Canadian politics. What makes Canada so different is that they place more confidence in their government. However, the current crop of politicos is trying to turn their public into cynics.
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The Love Contract
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‘Pass me the white rose.’
https://pushingrubberdownhill.com/2018/02/20/pass-me-the-white-rose/
‘Nobody really cares. Men are the expendables. We inhabit the far ends of the bell curve, not the safe and comfy female middle ground. We’re there to bail you all out when the shit hits the fan. But in times of plenty you can safely discard us, humiliate us, belittle us, impoverish us, patronise us, falsely accuse us, torment us, and persecute us.
But we’ll still bail you out next time when the shit hits the fan again.
Does that make us stupid or does it simply make you small and petty?
You with your convenient lives and your convenient lies. This is why my reaction to this episode is one of apathy. One teenage maniac with a gun in your schools and you immediately demonise the rest of us. But 100,000 teenage maniacs with guns about to invade the nation and you’ll be handing out white roses to those of us who don’t jump to your defense fast enough.’
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Jeremy eaten by Otters was he not?
Probably trained by his arch-nemesis they were
Wonder what the women around Jeremy named they are I do.
Allotta Scheisse
Dumas Dirt
Virtue Posture
Ima Fool
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News about Cyclone Gita hitting New Zealand from Pukeko.
http://pukeko.net.nz/blog/2018/02/gita-in-the-deep-south/
It is about nine hours old.
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Yoda,
I would like to ignore Jeremy Corbyn I would. Still, go away he won’t.Better politicians are needed.
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James Bond amounts to a huge intellectual export for the UK
Not sure an intellectual export it would be I am
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Yoda,
However you state it, James Bond brings a lot of money into the UK.
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On Patrick Brown.
Shoein for premier then two girls come forward one saying she had an encounter ten years ago with the never married Brown (then 29) and that she was under age. The other that she was at Browns house and he accosted her.
On 4 hours notice the party turfed him.
Now when he has nothing to lose and sets a lawyer on the accusers….
The one was not under age, she had the date wrong by a year and
The other, the friend who drove her to Browns said he never did, she physically wasdnt there!
So Brown is bacvk rerunning for PC leader and says if the party wont recognize him then he will run as an independent.
Oh and the CTV reporter that broke the story…roommaste of one of the accusers!
Brown is going scorched earth on everyone. The girls, CTV, the PC party, everyone.
Many I talked to would vote him Premier as an independent just for having the balls to say enough! Including me.
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Unfortunately here you do not vote for the Premier, Prime Minister directly. You vote for your local MP(P) and the party with the most seats has their leader as Premier, PM.
At least the yanks vote for POTUS seperate from local members.
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Its not trust Fuzz its apathy. Typical voter turnout is low 30%.
We know they are all fucked so ignore most of it. Our parties are all inches from each other. In the us we would all be Democrats of various degrees.
Really hard for an Ann Rynd, Terry Goodkind Libertarian like me.
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Yes, has balls Brown does.
Impressed I am
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Horseman,
Your government is structured differently. While we have a distinct executive branch, your tradition has made the legislative primary and the Prime Minister amounts to the leader of the leading party.
I don’t think it is apathy. I remember visiting Oregon when the speed limit was fifty five. They had nearly complete compliance. I chalked it up to local culture and government that had the confidence of the people because they had never burned them.
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I think that Diana Davison is going to find a way to trace all this back to the incumbent Premier, governor to people in the US, of Ontario. This will get ugly.
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Feel free to question Abramson’s timing and her subjectivity. Indeed, Abramson admits she is targeting Thomas again solely because the timing is proper, and the target high-value. She writes:
“Thomas, as a crucial vote on the Supreme Court, holds incredible power over women’s rights, workplace, reproductive, and otherwise. His worldview, with its consistent objectification of women, is the one that’s shaping the contours of what’s possible for women in America today, more than that of just about any man alive, save for his fellow justices.”
His worldview, of course, is that life and rights begin at conception, and that equal protection necessarily frowns upon laws based on gender. Abramson equates these views with dehumanization of women, and thus sees him as a worthwhile target based on his current import during this elite-media-driven “cultural” moment
https://pjmedia.com/davidsteinberg/jill-abramson-reboots-high-tech-lynching-clarence-thomas/
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Different when women do it it is
Nashville’s Mayor Has Stumbled. Who Will Cast the First Stone?
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/02/19/opinion/nashville-mayor-affair.html
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Upcoming post on this general topic there would be
In response to this week’s school shooting in Parkland, Florida, a man named Michael Ian Black, whom I’ve never heard of but who’s apparently an actor and comedian, invited a “conversation” on Twitter that began with the following statement: “Deeper even than the gun problem is this: boys are broken.”
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/02/18/desperate-cry-americas-boys.html
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According to the Wall Street Journal, “Several tech workers and entrepreneurs also have said they left or plan to leave the San Francisco Bay Area because they feel people there are resistant to different social values and political ideologies.”
Angel investor Tom McInerney, who fled Silicon Valley “a decade ago,” claimed to the Journal that “the politics of San Francisco have gotten a little bit crazy.”
“The Trump election was super polarizing and it definitely illustrated — and Peter [Thiel] said this — how out of touch Silicon Valley was,” he continued, while investor and 4-Hour Workweek author Tim Ferriss moved to Austin, Texas, last year, claiming that people in Silicon Valley “openly lie to one another out of fear of losing their jobs or being publicly crucified.”
Following his relocation, Ferriss declared that the people in Texas were “much friendlier.”
http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/02/19/wsj-tech-workers-feel-alienated-by-left-wing-silicon-valley-echo-chamber/
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In a better world, transgender theory might provide promising fodder for philosophical debate. Unfortunately, it’s escaped from the ivory tower. Foolish ideologies aren’t necessarily harmless; this one has already worked plenty of mischief. For a measured perspective on the current situation, readers should pick up Ryan T. Anderson’s newest book, When Harry Became Sally: Responding to the Transgender Moment.
https://www.nationalreview.com/magazine/2018/02/17/assault-reality/
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Unfortunately, one of the requirements to become a Marine combat officer is to pass the Combat Endurance Test (CET). One Marine I know who lived through the experience simply described it as “hell.” Many of the details are not made available to the public at large, but the majority of men who attempt the feat fail. The number of women who passed the course can apparently be counted on one hand.
But now you won’t necessarily have to pass it. A few months ago the Marines quietly changed the requirement so that it was only one of a number of factors being considered for graduating the Infantry Officer Course (IOC).
https://hotair.com/archives/2018/02/20/marines-quietly-lower-combat-training-requirements-help-female-officers/
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FB I have scheduled a post for Thursday 22 Feb. Please re-schedule it if necessary.
[Acknowledged this is]
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-02-20/lobster-emoji-gets-2-more-legs-following-design-complaints
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The saddest thing about the new Star Wars movie is that we’ll never know if it’s a trap now /s … in other news, there is a new post on the Illiberal Liberal:
https://www.illiberal-liberal.com/2018/02/unintended-consequences-the-puritans-of-metoo/
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@Yoda – the link about the CET test:
Marines quietyly lower combat training requirements (in 2018).
Just as they quietly raised the combat training requirements in 2012 (so this lowering is simply restoring the status that exists prior to 2012. Just as they have quietly made other changes to the overall testing for Marine reqcruits over the years.
From here:
https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/your-marine-corps/2018/02/07/passing-combat-endurance-test-is-no-longer-required-for-infantry-officers/
“ ‘As a result, the Combat Endurance Test (CET) reverted back to its original intent, prior to 2012, as an assessment tool to measure the retention of knowledge, skills and fitness achieved at the Basic Officer Course (BOC).’ Training Command said in a statement.”
“The CET has changed several times; it wasn’t until recently [2012] that Marines could washout from failing the course.”
A tactic from the manual “How to mislead by telling the truth, but not all of the truth”.
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While I feel sorry for the patriots who still serve, I generally approve of the weakening of our combat forces here in the U.S. They’ll be much less effective when the Left declares martial law the next time they have both the White House and Congress.
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Talking about frame…
‘Persuasion 101’
http://savingeve.net/persuasion-101/
‘The “dancing monkey” is a metaphor coined by freelance writer Bob Bly. It refers to the barrage of questions potential clients use to intimidate inexperienced freelancers into lowering their fees to barely livable wages: “have you worked in this industry before?” “what kind of results have you gotten?” “What makes you so sure you can do the job?” etc. etc.
Women do the same thing to their husbands when she demands explanations and “proof” to back up everything he says, bringing attention to his inadequacies and past failures in attempts to lower his confidence and force submission.’
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Yay
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Spawny Get,
I would not wish them that. I would wish that they drank a lot of vodka and then they would be quiet for a while.
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is this real?!
Queen Elizabeth Claims She Is ‘Direct Descendant Of Prophet Muhammad’
http://yournewswire.com/queen-elizabeth-descendant-muhammad/
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Ame,
I don’t think so.
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Wonder about Prince Charles I do
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I worry about him. Someone who drives around in an Aston Martin running on alcohol extracted from wine. Who charters airliners for himself and his retinue to travel to green conferences to lecture people on reducing their carbon footprint. Who has six eggs boiled for breakfast just to ensure one is cooked just right. I worry that he might just be full to the brim with bullshit.
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Spawny Get,
The bit about the eggs bothers me. Maybe it is because I am always hungry.
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@Spawny … whatever you Brits might say about our American leadership, at least we don’t have the hereditary eccentricities of a royal household to explain away lol
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They arent your friend
https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/tv/a17805134/chris-rock-netflix-special-review-trump-police-violence/
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RPG has a new post
https://notesfromaredpillgirl.com/2018/02/20/musings-on-a-post-social-construction-world/
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California state assembly member Cristina Garcia tried to ride the #MeToo bandwagon to a national spotlight — until a former aide and an anonymous lobbyist came forward to accuse her of alcohol-driven sexual harassment. Garcia took a “voluntary” unpaid leave of absence after those allegations emerged, but a new report from Politico suggests that Garcia’s problems with harassment and alcohol go deeper than first thought.
For instance, what’s up with the beer tap in her office?
The industry lobbyist said he was surprised last year when, during a late-morning policy meeting in Garcia’s Capitol office, the assemblywoman poured beer from a kegerator — a refrigerator with a beer tap on top –located in her office.
She offered the brew in red Solo cups to the group of lobbyists, even though it was “sometime between 11 a.m. and noon… a little early,” the lobbyist said.
…
However, the beer tap is the least of the problems. Marinucci’s new report makes it clear that alcohol-soaked socializing and listening to her sexual conquests were part of the job requirements in her office. When one aide had the temerity to question whether that was appropriate for an elected official, the self-proclaimed #MeToo leader and chair of the Assembly Women’s Caucus fired him for insubordination…
https://hotair.com/archives/2018/02/19/ca-metoo-lawmaker-staff-lets-play-spin-bottle-something/
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A letter to the boys & young men of America.
A response to the mass shooting in Florida.
The bodies aren’t even cold yet and already you are being blamed.
http://jishirofinney.com/index.php/2018/02/17/533/
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Effective with me this would be
In China, where some villagers in rural areas believe that a bigger turnout at funerals honors the dead, they’ve taken a rather unusual path to increase attendance: hire strippers to perform at the funeral.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/27375/chinese-government-cracks-down-stripping-funerals-hank-berrien
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Brilliant op ed piece on the Brown saga.
http://nationalpost.com/opinion/john-robson-patrick-brown-cant-clear-his-name-by-running-for-leader
And required viewing from human.
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I hope that Diana Davison can trace back these allegations to Kathleen Wynne, the incumbent, and that the allegations are shown to be fabricated. Let the fur and feathers fly.
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Farm Boy,
It is different when women do it. That is the excuse that allowed Christina Garcia to get away with it. Good to know that the saw cuts both ways.,
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You know this guy, yeah?
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The complaint has really gained traction after one of the film’s female stars, Florence Kasumba, seemed to confirm that a lesbian scene she was involved in was left on the cutting room floor. In an interview with Kasumba, Vulture faults the film for its “lack of queer representation.”
https://www.dailywire.com/news/27392/black-panther-blasted-lack-queer-representation-james-barrett
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USDA staffer Rosetta Davis made the shocking admission during an Agriculture Department Black History month event last week, reported The Washington Post.
Other staffers walked up to the podium to extol the virtues of working at the USDA, however, Davis decided to share the story of her own workplace sexual harassment experience. She told those gathered that a higher-up offered her a grade GS-13, a pay grade usually meant for top-level position, if she slept with him.
“I agreed to the sex,” she told WaPo, saying she did so hoping she would get a promotion.
http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/21/usda-staffer-sex-with-supervisor/
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Months later, it’s at times hard to imagine Democrats failing to nominate a woman as their standard-bearer against President Trump in 2020.
Some of the party’s strongest potential candidates are women, including Harris and Sens. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) and Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.). More pointedly, the rise of the #MeToo movement and Trump’s own controversies with women make it feel incongruous for Democrats to name a white male as their candidate in the next presidential race.
“The MeToo movement is a powerful force that could lead to Democratic midterm wins in 2018 and victory in the 2020 presidential race,” said Democratic strategist Brad Bannon
https://hotair.com/archives/2018/02/20/democrats-2020-potus-hopefuls-males-need-not-apply/
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Yoda,
It would make feminists happy to see a female Democrat nominated. I don’t think that anyone else would be happy. It might be a good idea to see how the midterms go later this year.
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The complaint has really gained traction after one of the film’s female stars, Florence Kasumba, seemed to confirm that a lesbian scene she was involved in was left on the cutting room floor. In an interview with Kasumba, Vulture faults the film for its “lack of queer representation.”
#tricky. Am I now not seeing this film because:
a) as a honky it is not for me cos I know my privilege
b) solidarity with my lgbtbbqlolwtf friends
c) I can’t be arsed with superhero bullshit movies because the absolutely ridiculous action special effects mean that I cannot suspend my disbelief
d) I’m sick of bullshit SJW agenda pushing which destroys any interesting storyline
It’s all so confusing. The first half of Deadpool was great, let’s have more like that
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It has been suggested that white people stay away. However, that kind of misses the point. There aren’t enough black people to support a production expected to be a blockbuster.
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‘There aren’t enough black people to support a production expected to be a blockbuster.’
That don’t matter…
https://frinkiac.com/meme/S04E09/914246.jpg?b64lines=SSdsbCB0YWtlIHlvdXIgbW9uZXkgYnV0CkkgRE9OJ1Qgd2hpdGUgcGVvcGxlIHRvCndhdGNoIHRoZSBtb3ZpZS4=
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‘Does Marriage Advice Work for Men?’
http://savingeve.net/does-marriage-advice-work-for-men/
‘Has marriage advice ever really worked for men?
It just seems so many boards are dedicated to how men have to change to get their wives back.
But I think many of the women we have chosen are simply not marriage material. I mean women initiate 70 percent of divorces. And for many of these women no matter how you change, they really just want something different.
Thoughts?’
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Earl,
He makes a good point. Men are called endlessly to adapt, but few requests are made of women.
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Note to self. Ton not to watch
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This article might make the basis for a good post here, I thought: https://www.quora.com/Why-do-almost-all-of-the-many-school-shooters-mass-shooters-fit-the-profile-of-young-and-socially-dysfunctional-male/answer/Jon-Davis-10?share=50dd9d4e&srid=aAt1
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Cyclone Gita smashed some of my trees but not much more than that. Some mates down south had a lot more damage. Thanks for the thoughts sent our way.
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Good to hear Cill
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Mgtow101 site permanently killed by ytube?
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Sigma has a new post
https://sigmaframe.wordpress.com/2018/02/21/nudity-and-respect/
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First World Problems
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Metoo aka yournext is moving beyond celebraties and politicians into the business world.
Head of FORD ousted for an anonymous tip on their tip line!
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/international-business/us-business/ford-north-america-president-leaving-company-after-reports-of-inappropriate-behaviour/article38055335/
Pence rule!
Whaaaaa he wont mentor me! He wont take my meetings! Whaaa
Hmmmm? Cause….effect. Its not hard.
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Newsweek: Definitely Believe All Women, But, By the Way, Al Franken Was Taken Out by RUSSIAN Bots Who Lie
http://ace.mu.nu/archives/373966.php
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