Must All Teen Girls Become Sluts?

I have acquaintances and relatives with teen girls.  Some of them have a hands off approach assuming that all teen girls of today will “go off the rails”, so there isn’t much point in doing anything about it.  This is just lazy parenting.  It is most unimpressive.

Let us consider what happens with typical teens.  The girls start to notice that the boys are noticing them.  They realize that they have this power.  It feels good.  They start experimenting with this power.  Being a young teen, their minds are not particularly well developed, so long term implications are often not up for consideration.  Being children still, they are very much shaped by behavioral psychology, effectively learning by doing with positive or negative reinforcement.  They start doing stuff; being children it typically is lowest common denominator stuff.  Through behaviorism, this becomes what they are.

For the girls, it is about experimenting to learn tricks of the trade to obtain validation, tingles, and resources.  Often these tricks work in the short term, but are counterproductive in the long term.  Many have an underhanded nature to them.  But kids will be kids and let them figure it out, or so they say.

I have seen many adult women who are the adult version of this, where their whole existence revolves around working men to obtain validation, tingles and resources.  By the time one is a mature adult, those activities should be have been long gone for two reasons,

  1.  They are lots of work.  Often, the guys are wise to the game and are not giving up what she wants easily.  So there is lots of heat generated, and not so much light
  2. Ideally she has locked down validation, tingles and resources; and should be moving on to other more important things in her life.

Short answer — being a teen slut sends one down a path of stunted growth.  In the long run, men just use them, for they really are not much good for anything else.

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134 comments on “Must All Teen Girls Become Sluts?
  1. Farm Boy says:

    Must all teen girls become sluts?

    I sure hope not


  2. BV says:

    By the definition provided, and this remark:

    “I have seen many adult women who are the adult version of this, where their whole existence revolves around working men to obtain validation, tingles and resources. By the time one is a mature adult, those activities should be have been long gone …”

    I’d say, “Certainly not!” Mores have changed. Professional women compartmentalize. After 7 pm the panties fly, wine flows. Back to the surgical theater by 7 a.m. So it’s silly to say that women enjoy acting like 15 year-olds all day. Just a few hours a day.

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  3. Vixen is a good example of this. She started working guys early and still does to this day. She’s approaching the wall though, and so it’s getting less effective. I saw a photo of her mom in her youth and she looked very much like her. But her mom has not aged well, so that’s not good as far as what lies soon ahead for Vixen. Another problem is she has managed to branch swing as needed so far, and as a result has learned few of the skills that sustain a relationship long term. She’s been able to just move on. However that window is rapidly closing, even though she’s not aware of that, and what then? What happens when she goes to her tried and true branch swing only to find no branch? And she has no skills to sustain something long term or work through difficulties? Not that it will be anyone’s fault but her own, or responsibility.

    And sadly her daughter’s naturally are watching and learning the same bad strategy. The oldest is already boy crazy, and playing the same games as mom. Multi generational fail.

    I am working hard to teach my kids the fallacy of such an approach, as well as to model good behavior. I hope they will do better than I did, not having that info myself until finding the manosphere. Nothing would make me happier than to see them get it right!

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  4. earlthomas786 says:

    ‘Some of them have a hands off approach assuming that all teen girls of today will “go off the rails”, so there isn’t much point in doing anything about it.’

    That’s like having a hands off approach to the steering wheel assuming the car is going to crash. Well obviously it will.

    Is there a case that a lot of teen girls become sluts because parents don’t want to parent.

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  5. BV, I am curious if the girls like you describe come from well off families? I ask because I wonder if their parents funding their education allows them to stay on the rails enough to get to the other side and have a high income themselves that somewhat insulates them from the crash and burn outcome a gal of lower means like Vixen usually encounters? Or maybe it’s a “birds of a feather” thing, someone with an MD is likely surrounded by others who also keep it contained to after hours, vs it being their whole life driving force? In Vixen’s case, she works the guys for resources she can’t earn herself with her skills and education. And maybe there is no answer, I am just curious what makes the difference I guess…

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  6. honeycomb says:

    I’ve said it before .. and I’ll say it again.

    DO NOT recommend college (aka slut finishing school) to any woman.

    Start telling her early she needs to find a husband .. heck help with the search .. because college isn’t an option.

    Give her a flip phone for possible emergency .. that nevwr seems to happen .. because you’ve removed drama from her life.

    Home School & teach home ec(onomy) skills.

    It starts with the parents.

    Ground that bitch if she steps an inch sideways.

    And .. almost forgot .. she will always have a male (brother or such) by her side when she steps out of the house.

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  7. Farm Boy says:

    Actress and liberal activist Shailene Woodley took to Instagram on Tuesday to declare that this year’s Golden Globes and the Time’s Up anti-sexual harassment movement are “ushering in sacred matriarchy.”

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  8. @ honeycomb agreed, insulating girls/teens from pop culture and the Internet is good advice.

    My ex got my oldest a smart phone for Christmas a few years back, despite my pleading w him to keep it to a flip phone, and it was a mistake.

    I now understand fairy tales of dames locked in towers — seems like a good plan! :/

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  9. * damsels, darn autocorrect!

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  10. Alan Kardec says:

    RPG: “I wonder if their parents funding their education allows them to stay on the rails enough to get to the other side and have a high income”

    I’d say that college is a way to make your financial prospects worse unless you insist on studying something that can actually lead directly to a good career. Many of the professors I’ve worked with have an absolute contempt for anything that could be even slightly defined as “vocational.” They let their students know this and the attitude infects many guidance counselors too. Girls who are less likely to aim for STEM or law school too often end up in the liberal arts where it’s often a morass of indoctrination these days. There’s nothing like 4 to 5 years of “you’re a victim in a world of victims” and then graduation into thousands of dollars of debt you can’t even bankrupt out of to screw up a whole generation!

    Far too often parents act like their job is done just by getting their kid into college.

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  11. Sigma Frame says:

    Professional women compartmentalize. After 7 pm the panties fly, wine flows. Back to the surgical theater by 7 a.m.

    7 pm to 7 am – Indulgence of the Tinglies through the hypergamic nature.
    7 am to 7 pm – Public defense of the hypergamic nature, and financing of the same.


  12. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    The young men on the MGTOW boards are the most motivated. They have seen what their mothers get away with. They have seen what their contemporaries get away with.

    As for the daughters, their mothers oftentimes are complicit and their fathers are unaware. The mothers are aiding their daughters because they are getting vicarious thrills from all this.


  13. I don’t know if it will wake the soyboys up but #metoo should be a big steaming pile of evidence that being a male feminist is a terrible thing to be.

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  14. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I can’t think of a single instance where they went after one of their philosophical opponents. They have been remarkably consistant that way.


  15. earlthomas786 says:

    Usually when they go after a philosophical opponent, they get exposed how moronic their ethos is. Going after fellow morons is easier. I think that’s why women probe to see if they can find weakness.

    Brass tacks…male feminists are weak, and that’s the only group of men those feminist can beat.

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  16. Stephanie says:


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  17. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I think they are going after their philosophical allies because they come into contact with them and these allies believed, falsely, that they had immunity. I think their opponents kept them at arm’s length.

    Cold is relative. Still, I got very close to a woman in Alberta and when she kept referring to minus forty is the same in both Celsius and Fahrenheit, I had to ask if she saw that there. They do. That is harsh. That is Siberian.


  18. earlthomas786 says:

    Considering how often feminists take even the most basic of interactions out of context…it is much better for men to not be involved with them.

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  19. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    They do fly off the handle.


  20. BV says:

    I concur with RPG’s view that 1) branch swingers really ought to think a little more abstractly (and I know I might as well say, Women are good at math and chess too); 2) female children of divorced mothers directly emulate their mothers’ behavior.

    I will tell you that I was seriously entertaining marriage to a woman 18 years younger than I. My thinking changed when a) I was invited to her parents’ home and saw the 50-year-old mother’s figure and face; and b) I saw how they decorated and kept their house. My girlfriend, in her 20’s at the time, was considered extremely hot and was an excellent tomboy to boot (which is a thing with me. Once we went back to the Ritz in Atlanta at 2 a.m. and were gunning the free apples around the lobby, and the black security guard said, “I want to coach your children.”) She finally had her “oops!” pregnancy last year and locked down a guy at 39. The wedding pictures are not salubrious.


    As a footnote, a corollary insight is that a girl who had/has a great, traditional relationship with her father is a good match for any red pill man. And likewise the flip side: if she’s mad at her dad, guess what? You’re a lot easier to yell at.

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  21. BV says:

    Bloom, my first wife (23 year relationship) was from a family that hadn’t worked since the civil war. However, the money had run out, and it was my job to spool up and provide for her in the manner she was accustomed to. The second wife, who was an opportunist and not a real wife, is the daughter of a rancher in North Dakota who’s never made $100K in a year in his life. But she (and her sister, incidentally) received a scholarship to Harvard, where she later got her MBA, and started mowing everything down in her path. Including blue pill me, to be honest.

    I know a lot of women like your Vixen. In fact, since I moved out of the Acela bubble and went back to the land, they’re basically all I know. They’re fun to have beers with, their personal lives are one self-sabotaging episode after another, and men are simply targets for sex and money. The men in their orbit, whether or not they are articulate, know this.

    My house is one of the larger and more traditional houses in this small prairie town. After a few dates most of the women here would gladly move in, and that includes their children, absent marriage or any consideration of the future. Their solipsism and general ignorance, the complete vacuum that is their ethical center, prevent them from seeing how stupid this is as a way of running one’s life. So they’re just playing The Circle Game, to quote the noted philosopher Joni Mitchell. As I said, they’re fun to yuck it up with at the bar, but the desperation emerges over time.

    I would like to live with a woman again and have dinner and other things with her every night. But if I ever do, it will be with someone who knows how to work hard, think before she speaks, and views a man as someone to study rather than utilize for personal ends. So yeah, a surgeon I know is a carefully-organized party girl, and virtually every other woman I’ve spent time with over the years is professionally organized, but has the “Let’s party!” binary switch. There are no sloppy women practicing difficult careers. There are no sloppy women who enjoy making perpetual, lifelong learning a central focus of their lives. There are no sloppy women who are too hungover to get to the office at 7 a.m. So I don’t think it has anything to do with money. Rather, self-discipline, values, curiosity, toughness. Women like Vixen are just playing the circle game, they’re playing musical chairs. The music always stops in those games. You seem to have a lot of these women in your life, for some reason. Why?

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  22. BV says:

    “7 pm to 7 am – Indulgence of the Tinglies through the hypergamic nature.

    “7 am to 7 pm – Public defense of the hypergamic nature, and financing of the same.”

    To me this is just “work hard, play hard”, burning the candle at both ends. Or, living well. I like to be around women who do so. I don’t want to spend time with a woman who can’t drive all night and ski all day, shoot the ILS at midnight when it’s 200 and a half, run a 50′ cultivator behind a 600 hp articulated tractor, take the red-eye just to walk through a show at the Musee d’Orsay.

    I think the manosphere is beginning to consume itself. Same shit, different day is no way to go through life, son.

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  23. Farm Boy says:

    There is something odd happening to feminism these days, a stark split between its older and its younger practitioners. Daphne Merkin hinted at it in her recent New York Times op-ed on women’s misgivings about the #MeToo movement. Caitlin Flanagan came right out and said it after the comic actor Aziz Ansari was the subject of a humiliating tell-all about a recent date: “Sexual mores in the West have changed so rapidly over the past 100 years that by the time you reach 50, intimate accounts of commonplace sexual events of the young seem like science fiction,” she writes. “You understand the vocabulary and the sentence structure, but all of the events take place in outer space. You’re just too old.”

    I have now had dozens of conversations about #MeToo with women my age or older, all of which are some variant on “What the hey?” It’s not that we’re opposed to #MeToo; we are overjoyed to see slime like Harvey Weinstein flushed out of the woodwork, and the studio system. But we see sharp distinctions between Weinstein and guys who press aggressively — embarrassingly, adulterously — for sex. To women in their 20s, it seems that distinction is invisible, and the social punishments demanded for the latter are scarcely less than those meted out for forcible rape.

    There’s something else we notice, something that seems deeply connected to these demands for justice: These women express a feeling of overwhelming powerlessness, even though they are not being threatened, either physically or economically. How has the most empowered generation of women in all of human history come to feel less control over their bodies than their grandmothers did?

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  24. Farm Boy says:

    Canada’s employment minister says churches and other religious groups are eligible for a federal grant to hire summer students as long as their core mandate agrees with access to abortion.

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  25. BV says:

    Minus 40 is the threshold where the instructors at Quebec ski mountains don’t have to work. Minus 35, they work.

    My son is a pro extreme skier; I taught him and took him to interesting mountains. When he was 10 we were at Tremblant, Quebec and it was minus 40. My dad stayed inside. Son #1 had a metal belt buckle, and he was wearing a t-shirt, and his parka.

    Later, he had strange scarring on his abdomen from t buckle inducing frostbite, and I was interviewed by CPS because they thought I was torturing him. That boy is so tough he rode his bicycle a few years ago from Tahoe to the Oregon coast to Seattle … to Maine. On about $2500. He slept in the dirt. When I met him in North Dakota, he stunk so bad we took his clothing to the self-serve car wash first. I wish I could share a picture of us, from that weekend. I had just gotten out of the hospital and one of my shoulders was three inches lower than the other, and I still had a scabs all over my face. He just stands there, smirking.

    Anyway, people are pussies about the cold. The cold-weather gear available to us today is incredible. I haven’t started my car since Thanksgiving.

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  26. Farm Boy says:

    And then we got to #MeToo and to women across the land dredging up events sometimes forty years old to point out they too were victims and had suffered.

    Otherwise rational women demanded that – somehow – no man, ever, be a bad lot. They might not realize that’s what they demanded, but when they say that no woman should be afraid of walking alone at night, or that no woman should ever face an unwanted pass at work, what they’re saying amounts to “Men must all be saints. We won’t settle for less.” Because while there are ways to prevent even the very rare bad apple from hitting on you or worse – like, everyone wearing personal locators and body cams – that is not a society I particularly want to live in.

    But now we are using the naked exploitation of #MeToo to go after men who are, to put it mildly, weak, infirm and at the mercy of caretakers who, in the way of our society currently, are mostly women

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  27. Farm Boy says:

    Why should your right to freedom of speech trump a trans person’s right not to be offended?” the reporter asked at the 22-minute mark of a 30-minute interview.

    “Because in order to be able to think, you have to risk being offensive. I mean, look at the conversation we’re having right now,” the psychologist answered, The Daily Wire reported Wednesday. “You’re certainly willing to risk offending me in the pursuit of truth. Why should you have the right to do that? It’s been rather uncomfortable. […] You’re doing what you should do, which is digging a bit to see what the hell is going on. And that is what you should do. But you’re exercising your freedom of speech to certainly risk offending me, and that’s fine. More power to you, as far as I’m concerned.”

    Ms. Newman paused, sighed and struggled to find a response until her guest interjected, “Ha. Gotcha.”

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  28. BV says:

    FB, the older women know that this #metoo stuff makes it even more unlikely that men will spend time with them. So they’re freaking out. Tough titty.

    Merkin openly admitted she and her friends bow down to the PC of #metoo publicly, while disagreeing privately. She thinks this makes her brave and virtuous, instead of a hypocrite.

    It’s another example of women demanding the authority to keep two sets of books. They actually think men don’t notice, apparently.

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  29. RichardP says:

    Interesting report re. the Trump effect re. H1B visa stuff, if true.


  30. Farm Boy says:

    Actress Keira Knightley has said she does not wish to participate in films set in the modern day because the female characters “nearly always get raped.”


  31. earlthomas786 says:

    “Actress Keira Knightley has said she does not wish to participate in films set in the modern day because the female characters “nearly always get raped.”

    Sexual liberation isn’t what it’s cracked up to be.

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  32. Farm Boy says:

    And that’s the problem with the whole Believe All Women mantra. It’s a fool’s errand to begin with, primarily because women are human beings and some of them will sometimes be wrong about something. They may misinterpret a reaction. In the worst case scenario, some of them may even lie. (Yes, I know… you’re shocked.) In the case of Grace I don’t think there was any lying going on. But there was clearly one heck of an overreactio

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  33. Farm Boy says:

    On Wednesday, the famous “…And God Created Woman” star, now 83, unloaded on the “hypocritical and ridiculous” accusations leveled by many self-described #MeToo victims.

    “The vast majority are being hypocritical and ridiculous,” Bardot told the French magazine Paris Match, AFP reports. “Lots of actresses try to play the tease with producers to get a role. And then, so we will talk about them, they say they were harassed.”

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  34. Farm Boy says:

    The Kappa Kappa Gamma sorority at Harvard University has cuts ties with its parent organization and re-branded itself as a “gender-neutral” club in order to comply with a new policy forbidding “unrecognized single-gender social organizations.”

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  35. “You seem to have a lot of these women in your life, for some reason. Why?”

    BV, I live in a rural area and so like you have found, those types are more common around here. I also know lots of women who are not like them, but I don’t share those anecdotes as often because they usually don’t illustrate the ideas we are talking about here. So I can see why it may seem so, but I actually do know lots of women married for decades who are raising well adjusted kids and seem to be happily married and whose lives are relatively drama-free, too. Some have careers, some don’t.


  36. BV says:

    Okay, my response to the environment is different. When I was younger I found these fuck-ups interesting, and wrote about their strange practices diligently in my journals, so I could recall their hijinks later in a fictional piece.

    Now I think life is too short, and certainly my life is going to be too short, since I front-loaded it. I invest my personal time and energy in teenagers instead of middle-aged, self-destructive cliches.YMMV, and peace out.

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  37. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    A video from Karen Straughan. It has been a while. She tears apart an article from that has since been taken down. Runs twenty nine and a half minutes.

    There does seem to be a limit to how much the press can bash men. Still, it is beyond absurd and few are laughing.

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  38. Cheque d'Out says:

    The weekly politics panel show lead by lefty arse


  39. Cheque d'Out says:

    So, same as every week then. I am pissed off with the world lately. Too many morons, too many manginas, too many silly bitches. *Opens bottle of wine*

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  40. Farm Boy says:

    Well, she said (as he recounted the conversation to me). Women have been scared of men for a long time. Maybe men will be scared of women for a while now.

    He recounted this as a calm statement of fact, which interested me; it seemed accurate, and it also seemed like a stark contrast to the way I’d seen similar assessments delivered elsewhere. In general, in the weeks following the Times’ and The New Yorker’s reports on Harvey Weinstein, the prospect of men being newly scared of women tended to loom as a sort of horrifying, unnatural worst-case scenario. What if men were now too scared to take meetings with women? Too scared to professionally mentor women? Too scared to be friendly? Too scared to flirt? The price of any misstep: a life “ruined” (although what, exactly, it meant to “ruin” a life tended to pass without scrutiny).

    Implied in these scenarios was less a fear of women’s power than a fear of their irrationality, their suggestibility, and their failures of understanding. The subtext seemed to be: So are women just going to get upset about whatever now? Are they going to start reporting men for “misconduct” willy-nilly, ignoring all subtleties and good intentions in favor of freaking out?

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  41. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    I wish that I had a good word for you.

    Farm Boy,
    It would be the Holy Grail for feminists to find the means to instill fear in men for women. What they can’t see is that men will simply stop playing.

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  42. earlthomas786 says:

    ‘Women have been scared of men for a long time. Maybe men will be scared of women for a while now.’

    Still not scared of women. The more legit fear is how the state enforces women’s whims.

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  43. Why should your right to freedom of speech trump a trans person’s right not to be offended?” the reporter asked at the 22-minute mark of a 30-minute interview.

    Did a string search for “offend”. Zero instances found.

    So at least in the U.S. (though he’s Canadian and she’s an Idiot) there is no constitutional protection from being offended.


  44. RichardP says:

    @ fuzzie: “What they can’t see is that men will simply stop playing.”

    “Bee concluded with a message for all men who want to support the #MeToo movement: “Men, if you say you’re a feminist, then f— like a feminist. And if you don’t wanna do that, take off your f—in’ pin because we are not your accessories.” ”

    If men stop interacting with women ala Pence, and stop hiring them to get the drama level lower in the corporation, women may discover that they long to be considered accessories again.

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  45. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    I have a cheerful thought for you. The twenty first will be the one year anniversary of the Women’s March. Feminists are trying to hold events throughout the country with the main one in Las Vegas. If it is as much of a fizzle as the “howl at the moon anniversary” of Trump’s election, It will be a disaster for them, and it will mean that we have made progress.

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  46. earlthomas786 says:

    ‘Why did Cathy Newman lose to Jordan Peterson?’

    I guess feminists aren’t aware of something called free will…and that men possess it too.

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  47. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    They have overplayed their hand, and some of them are aware of it.


  48. earlthomas786 says:

    I’m glad how the person in the video correctly pointed out how Jordan viewed it from the individual and Cathy viewed it from the Marxist collectivist view. The hardcore feminist is a Marxist and the class struggle is down the sex lines.

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  49. Cheque d'Out says:

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  50. Cheque d'Out says:

    She lost because he has twice the IQ, all the facts and she’s a retarded arrogant feminist wankpot

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  51. RichardP says:

    ‘Why did Cathy Newman lose to Jordan Peterson?’

    Just watched the video. Never heard of Cathy Newman. I was impressed with her. I like her. She’s bright. What’s with the “Newman loses to Peterson” meme??. It wasn’t a debate or a competition. If was an effing interview. I thought she came up with some excellent questions to get him to explain the logic behind his thinking. The result being a very good education for all who watch the video. The art of getting folks to reveal the logic behind their thinking is to say something stupid in response to what they say. Then they go “ohh, no, it’s not like that – it’s like this.” And then you get information that you would probably not get with a straightforward question.


  52. RichardP says:

    I said: “Just watched the video.” I meant the video on the previous thread, the actual interview.


  53. Yoda says:

    The art of getting folks to reveal the logic behind their thinking is to say something stupid in response to what they say.

    Intentional it was?

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  54. copperfox3c says:

    Is it wrong that I think this post is funny? Anyhow, new blog post on the Illiberal Liberal:

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  55. Cheque d'Out says:

    Richard, you must of missed her aggressive tone, failure to listen to what he actually said, lots of accusations of saying things that he didn’t.

    Besides. She has history.

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  56. BV says:

    Pro tip: When watching the Peterson (fucking Swedes) interview, do not imagine what she looks like in her underwear. A) she doesn’t have any good underwear; B) there’s no waist, there.

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  57. Cheque d'Out says:

    The comment thread shows the reaction to the interview…

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  58. re: the OP
    For the girls, it is about experimenting to learn tricks of the trade to obtain validation, tingles, and resources.

    About 8-9 years ago we were over at a neighbors backyard pool with a couple other families when my sub-conscience noted a repeated motion pattern happening in my vicinity. I realized that one of the girls (about 13-14 yo) kept jumping into the pool on the far side, wading across, and then climbing out right in front of where I was sitting. I came to realize she was “trying out ” her new breasts, which has come in (quite nicely!) since the last time I had seen her months ago. She’d already learned how to use her upper arms to squeeze them together for a better show. She hadn’t learned how to hide her intentions yet though because she kept looking right at me to gauge my reaction. Pretty sure I managed to pull this off (while NOT making eye contact):

    Afterwards she got out a set up a lounge chair directly across the pool from me and laid down with her ass pointed right at me. Her mother seemed completely oblivious to the whole thing.


  59. Farm Boy says:

    I didn’t know that you were really Bruce Willis

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  60. @RichardP

    That wasn’t an interview, that was an interrogation on her part, seeking a confession regarding his crime-think re: wage-gap bullshit, lack of female CEO’s, biologic and behavior differences between men and women.

    The art of getting folks to reveal the logic behind their thinking is to say something stupid in response to what they say. So if Chewbacca is wookie then OJ didn’t kill those two people?

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  61. @FB Not really. More hair, less money. A lot less money.

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  62. SFC Ton says:

    Yeah Headhunter…. a few years a go a buddy’s pre teen daughter clearly turned on by me. Touching her self and all that. Very disturbing at the time.


  63. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Farm Boy,
    He can’t be. Bruce Willis resides in Idaho.

    It may help to watch the Sargon of Akkad video in which he takes the interview apart. Feminists do rely on being female to be persuasive. As for her history, Spawny linked a video on the previous thread. She has told outright lies and she is still working.

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  64. SFC Ton says:

    RP seems like the above the fray sort and has interesting observations

    I am a brawler. In every engagement, including an interview, there is a winner and a looser. I didn’t watch the interview so I can’t say who one and who lost, but someone did


  65. Northern Idaho is beautiful, but I hear the state is being flooded with Kookifornia refugees, so I won’t be moving the lodge there any time soon.

    @Ton It was kinda surreal. I was like, is this really happening? Does nobody else see this? They moved across town for school a few months later, but I did see her the year after. She’d put on 25 lbs and had bad acne.


  66. Yoda says:

    So “Kentucky Boobhunter” you are.
    Perhaps “Kentucky Boobmagnet” you would be

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  67. Cheque d'Out says:

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  68. earlthomas786 says:

    ‘I thought she came up with some excellent questions to get him to explain the logic behind his thinking. ‘

    So what you’re saying is that women can’t ask excellent questions to get men to explain their logic behind their thinking.

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  69. earlthomas786 says:

    ‘She’d put on 25 lbs and had bad acne.’

    Way to alpha widow the poor lass.


  70. earlthomas786 says:

    ‘Feminists do rely on being female to be persuasive.’

    Yeah they still haven’t mastered the art of being a man yet. Not that they ever will….sticking feathers up your butt doesn’t make you a chicken.

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  71. Yoda says:

    According to a statement the company provided to Vanity Fair, on Oct. 1, Weinstein’s vice president of human resources, Frank Gil, entered the offices of TWC employees without their knowledge and “may have been responsible for the disappearance of personnel files.” Those offices, sources said, belonged to TWC president and chief operating officer David Glasser and Irwin Reiter, the company’s comptroller, who had worked for the Weinsteins for 28 years. Reiter had apparently grown disdainful of, and increasingly vocal about, Weinstein’s philandering as well as his abusive behavior toward subordinates. Contemporaneous e-mails reviewed by Vanity Fair also suggest that Reiter’s computer may have been accessed without his consent. (He declined to comment to the magazine).

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  72. Yoda says:

    Newman set out to ensnare and destroy someone whose politics she found objectionable — but ended up being hoist by her own petard.

    But this interview, I believe, is much more than just a conservative “lol and share” moment. I think it marks a pivotal victory in the culture wars — an incident in which the weaknesses of the regressive left have never been more cruelly or damningly exposed. So I want to examine in more detail why.

    It matters not so much because of who Cathy Newman is — after all, barely anyone watches Channel 4 News — but what she represents.

    Educated at one of Britain’s leading private schools, with a first class degree in English from Oxford University, Newman is the embodiment of the woke millennial generation: white children of privilege on a mission to remake the world anew according to the principles of the thing they call “Social Justice.”

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  73. Yoda says:

    Stupid this is

    How far has political correctness in advertising gone?

    L’Oreal Paris has now broken new ground with an advertising campaign for hair starring . . . a hijab-wearing Muslim woman whose hair you cannot see. Yes, really. No joke. Actually. Seriously

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  74. Yoda says:

    There has emerged a war on masculinity. Why? Because masculine men are harder to control under tyrannical socialism. The modern beta male, on the other hand, craves socialism. This is why the left has branded masculinity as toxic: it stands as a roadblock to their endgame.

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  75. Cill says:

    Yoda, scheduled a post for early Saturday 20th I have.

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  76. Yoda says:

    The Force strong in Cill it is

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  77. Why the “Pence Rule is coming to bedrooms across the West..

    “The other day I was texting with a friend about her recent experience lying naked on the bed of a younger man.

    She asked if he had condoms and he said, solemnly, “I’m very serious about consent. So before I do anything I want to make sure I’m clear on what you want to happen.”

    Me, delighted : “Awwwww.”

    Her, coldhearted: “I literally burst out laughing.”


    They dont understand what they have demanded and when a mangina complies they laugh.

    Well fuck you bitches!!

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  78. Cill says:

    The force strong in Yoda a tautology it would be.

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  79. Cill says:

    Reiterate it I feel inclined to do.


  80. Cill says:

    Pass over the heads of the great unclean the force it sometimes does.


  81. Cill says:

    “Woe unto the vanquished” we must restrain ourselves from saying.


  82. Cill says:

    9:02 pm here, 19th January 2018, and I’m wishing y’all a very hospitable good night.

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  83. SFC Ton says:

    Happy Robert E Lee day to all y’all

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  84. Cheque d'Out says:

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  85. Farm Boy says:

    A mom of five has married the ghost of a 300-year-old Haitian pirate — and claims they’re enjoying the best sex she’s ever had, according to a report.

    “I told him I wasn’t really cool with having casual sex with a spirit and I wanted us to make a proper commitment to each other,” Irish woman Amanda Teague, 45, told The Sun.

    “If I am going to be in a long-term relationship with somebody, I have the right to be married.”

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  86. earlthomas786 says:

    ‘They dont understand what they have demanded and when a mangina complies they laugh’

    I think they just love mix signalling a man.

    She’s lying naked in his bed asking if he has a condom…surely that would be plenty of verbal and non-verbal cues of consent.

    But then if he can’t read subsequent non-verbal cues, or if she doesn’t feel tingles, or if she changes her mind after the fact, or if she says no once (out loud or in her head and make sure it is at the point of no return), or if she wants to hop on the #metoo bandwagon…suddenly it wasn’t.

    Consent is a foolish thing to go off of.

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  87. Farm Boy says:

    This is an expanded version of a comment I left on Megan McArdle’s post
    Listen to the ‘Bad Feminists’ in which she muses on the “Grace”-vs.-Aziz-Ansari scandalette and wonders why younger women report feeling so powerless and used.

    It’s not complicated, Megan. You actually got most of it already, but I don’t think you quite grasp how comprehensive the trap is yet. Younger women feel powerless because they live in a dating environment where sexual license has gone from an option to a minimum bid

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  88. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    In response to Horseman, there is so much hate and contempt out there for men that I don’t see a way out of this. Feminists are going to keep piling on conditions until men collectively give up. We are close to that and they have no idea. Brigitte Bardot and Catherine Deneuve tried to warn them, but they will go ahead until their dating site inboxes are empty.


  89. earlthomas786 says:

    ‘Feminists are going to keep piling on conditions until men collectively give up. We are close to that and they have no idea.’

    #metoo is going to be their waterloo moment. Once men finally give up…feminism will fall apart because it was always dependent on men complying with it.

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  90. More Popcorn??

    Pull up a chair.

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  91. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Got root beer?


  92. Cheque d'Out says:

    Got some non-alcofrolic ginger beer around somewhere, if that suits

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  93. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    That’ll work! Can’t have this bear passing out in doorways. It’s just sad.

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  94. But this interview, I believe, is much more than just a conservative “lol and share” moment. I think it marks a pivotal victory in the culture wars

    Wishful thinking at best. What fraction of 1% of people will see that interview? As demonstrated here already, how will they interpret what they see?

    I’ve recently become a fan of ginger beer, and they carry a very snappy one at my local grocer. Ginger ale, though is it’s weak little sister by comparison.

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  95. Farm Boy says:

    A criminal justice watchdog group has just come out with a new report detailing how the “believe the victim” mentality “compromises the integrity of our entire legal system.”

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  96. Farm Boy says:

    Los Angeles Times publisher and CEO Ross Levinsohn is currently under investigation for two sexual harassment settlements and other alleged acts of inappropriate behavior, according to NPR.


  97. Farm Boy says:

    According to Trudeau, his tongue-lashing of pro-life groups was prompted by responses to a change to who can receive grants as part of the Canada Summer Jobs program. “Under new rules introduced last year, employers must sign an attestation vouching that their organization upholds human rights and Charter values, including reproductive rights and the right to be free from discrimination on the basis of, among other things, sexual orientation and gender identity or expression.”

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  98. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Ginger can be spicy. Canada Dry is very mild. Still, it is all good. The spicy stuff is for sipping.


  99. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Farm Boy,
    I think that Justin has taken it too far and stepped over the line about the separation of church and state. It may not happen in this instance, but what form could a response take? It might be overwhelming to government.

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  100. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Headhunter at 3:25pm
    These things are always arranged so that reasonable people are made to look like fools by the mainstream media. That interview was an exception. It may not be much, but it is a crack in the dam.


  101. Farm Boy says:

    President Donald Trump will become the first sitting president to address the March For Life, White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders said Wednesday.

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  102. Yoda says:

    Ginger can be spicy.

    Prefer Mary Anne I do

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  103. Yoda says:

    Congratulations on finding this article if you used Google. A civil rights lawsuit filed this week revealed its search engine blacklists authors and ideas distasteful to the company.


  104. Yoda says:

    Democrats are playing women for fools.

    Consider the flattering lies they tell. Women “have a right to be believed” when they claim they’ve been raped. Really? Are women some sort of sparkly, magical creatures incapable of lying about big things and small like actual human beings? It is no accident that this remark was made by Hillary Clinton, a woman who preserved her husband’s political career by trying to destroy the stories of the many women who accused him of abuse.

    Or what about Oprah Winfrey’s absolutely absurd Golden Globe speech in which she compared the state of American women today to that of a black woman raped in 1944? “So I want all the girls watching here, now, to know that a new day is on the horizon! And when that new day finally dawns, it will be because of a lot of magnificent women, many of whom are right here in this room tonight…” What the hell was she even talking about? She was in a room full of Hollywood actresses, many of whom had preserved their careers through silence and transactional sex and were now protesting their own actions by wearing slinky black dresses.

    It was all show. All lies. All an attempt to create a feeling state of victimhood and outrage that would supersede the reality that American women are the luckiest, most prosperous, most free bunch of dames that have ever walked the planet.

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  105. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    It is good that we both do not chase after the same girl.
    More reasons to bake coconut creme pies this gives.


  106. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Bettina Arndt and Karen Straughan discuss #metoo and all the events up to Aziz Ansari. Bettina mentions a slogan from the days of the suffragettes, “Votes for women and chastity for men!” She thinks that all this is to clamp down on male sexuality. She could be right. Runs eighteen and a half minutes. I’ll link Part 2 when it is available.

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  107. Ginger was a one-trick pony with zero value outside of her sex appeal. I’m not surprised Tina Louise was unhappy about that character or what it did her career. Still think she was a bit of a doofus about how she handled it though.

    Maryanne was the total package.


  108. earlthomas786 says:

    ‘She thinks that all this is to clamp down on male sexuality.’

    But how can women clamp down on male sexuality if they continue to be promiscuous?

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  109. earlthomas786 says:

    Ginger had the looks…Maryanne had the looks and the heart.

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  110. Yoda says:

    Karen Straughan long hair needs she does

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  111. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Mary Anne was no slouch in the looks department. She was Miss Nevada.
    It is too bad that Ginger never got any roles with depth. Maybe she would have been all right too. After all, she was Mary Anne’s roommate and helped bake all those pies. Just the girl to make me a fat, satisfied bear.


  112. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Furry Karen Straughan is not. I don’t think that she bakes many pies either.


  113. SFC Ton says:

    Ginger vs Maryanne….

    Fuck that

    Ginger and Maryanne…. fuck Yeah!

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  114. Yoda says:

    Shepherd had lots of exposure to a social justice perspective, but only from within the perspective itself. She was taught social justice beliefs but had never been taught to critique those beliefs. When she came across a professor who did just that—Jordan Peterson—she found it interesting and new, even while disagreeing with him. (She later came to realise he may have been right about the legislation he was criticising.) So she shared a clip of the debate with her students, and only afterwards did she discover that not only are critiques of social justice not taught, they aren’t even to be acknowledged.

    The methodology underpinning much of the social justice perspective is known as critical theory. What’s notable about critical theory is that it specifically distinguishes itself from ‘traditional’ theories through its emphasis on criticism. This makes the apparent unwillingness of its adherents to engage with criticism themselves especially noteworthy. When you explicitly emphasise your criticality and base your theory on a commitment to look beneath appearances and see things as they really are, you don’t get to be selectively critical. So why does this phenomenon exist?

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  115. Yoda says:

    Ginger was a one-trick pony

    But if ride that pony you did,
    A good trick it would be

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  116. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Tell Ginger her coconut creme pies are great and that her good looks only got her so far.

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  117. Yoda says:

    Supposed to be funny she is


  118. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Funny she is not. Women want to start a war with men.

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  119. Caption contest, Samantha Bee clip:

    “I’m queen of the cunts, right? Right?”
    “Well, Skeletor is my Dad!”
    “I adopted this leopard from a run-down circus. 2 months later it committed the first documented case of big-cat suicide by chopping its own head off with an axe. Weird, huh?””

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  120. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    The Samantha Bee clip is so bad that it brought ho,e to me the level of arrogance in American women and the contempt they have for their men. I don’t know how it will end, but it can’t be sustained.

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  121. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Earl at 7:49pm,
    “But how can women clamp down on male sexuality if they continue to be promiscuous?”
    They are being promiscuous with very few men, consigning the balance to celibacy. Those few men are very busy.


  122. earlthomas786 says:

    ‘They are being promiscuous with very few men, consigning the balance to celibacy. Those few men are very busy.’

    Still doesnt defeat it though.


  123. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    While women are getting what they want, most men aren’t. That is a double burn. The sexual marketplace is manipulated to such an extent and at a level of sophistication that OPEC could only dream about.

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  124. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    There is another thing. In the video that I linked, Bettina Arndt said that the gap between men and women in desire for sex has never been this wide. I would like to know her sources.


  125. RichardP says:

    I’m using HTML code to create italics for the first time. Apologies in advance if i get it wrong.

    @fuzzie said: It may help to watch the Sargon of Akkad video …

    I watched that video first, which made me curious to watch the actual interview video. I found my reactions to interactions there not at all the same as was what was concluded in the Akkad video. Probably because I don’t know about either of the folks in the interview. I assumed he was there to promote his book, and she was there to ask questions from the standpoint of the least-informed viewer. Her style of questioning did draw out of him more specific answers. I left the interview feeling much better informed.

    @Ton said: RP seems like the above the fray sort …

    I firmly believe that it is the ideas discussed, not the personalities involved, that give value to the discussions in these parts (here; Blooms; SSM; Dalrock; Rollo; etc.) So I tend to focus on the ideas involved, rather than personal details. But, a bit of specifics:

    My wife and I have been directly involved in the fray for the last ten years or so. We have seen all of the cliches’ / meme’s play out in real time. (It has been useful to see others describe in print what we have been involved with in real life.) We have been the stability in the midst of the fallout from several women nuking their marriages – “cause there’s gotta be something more out there, and I can take care of me and my kids”. Now, on cue, these “strong women” are failing and pressuring my wife to take their kids – because they can’t hold on to their jobs. They keep getting fired. Not pretty when ideology slams head-first into reality.

    From the Quillette article that Yoda linked to: … people differ with respect to a variety of personality traits, and therefore also with respect to the type of society they want to live in. … from this perspective, it’s difficult to imagine truly universal values; some societal arrangements are inevitably going to appeal to some people more than others.

    It became obvious from the time I first started reading in these parts that many (most?) of the participants assume that folks see life the same way they do, operate in the same environment in which they operate, and that if the participant doesn’t “see” something, it doesn’t exist. My comments have usually been an attempt to get those folks to understand that they can only know first-hand the environment in which they operate (bars and easy women). But there are other environments, and people exist in those other environments. And there are things they do not / can not see, but they do exist for other people. The entire Quillette article is a good read with respect to this.

    From my perspective, the women who nuke their marriages because “is that all there is?” have similar personality types and come from similar environments. But there are more personality types, and environments, than those inhabited by women who nuke their marriages. Understanding that requires a more global view of things. Approach life from that more global perspective could give the impression that one is above the fray.


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