Blowing It Big Time


I have friend who years ago was dating a young lady.  He was cautious like a intelligent man should be, and things had not gone very far (at least from his perspective).  She on the other hand, apparently was really feeling it.  During a Saturday afternoon date they passed by a jewelry store in the mall.  They went in apparently just for shits and giggles. In reality, that was not quite the case.  She wanted him to buy her a $5000.00 Friendship Ring.   Well, that did not happen.  What did happen was that she was never asked out again.

The word was that she was totally confused by his reaction.  The question is: How could she be so confused?   As a fella, as a person who is expected to work his entire life, it is obvious.  But then not everybody is a guy; women apparently have different perspectives.  Perhaps it is a result on repeated attention and validation for effectively just existing. Perhaps there was nobody older and wiser around to tell her that this attention and validation that she has been consuming has limits.  Does anybody provide advice for young women these days? Would they accept it if somebody did?

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215 comments on “Blowing It Big Time
  1. earl says:

    They make 5000 dollar friendship rings?

    I wouldn’t even spend a quarter of that on an engagement ring.

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  2. Yoda says:

    Out of the running you would be

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  3. Stephanie says:

    WOWZA!!!!! That is INSANE!!!!!!!

    lol my engagement ring wasn’t even remotely close to that! I wonder what kind of wedding that girl would plan? It’s VERY good he escaped that fate.

    She’d spend all his money and would never live within their means… always wanting fancy gifts and such. Bleh!

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  4. Stephanie says:

    Maybe like you said in the OP, no one really told her how ridiculous that was.

    But then again it’s like common sense lol. Psycho females….

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  5. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Farm Boy,
    It is good that he saw this from her early. Still, I am a little sad that he couldn’t have turned this into a teachable moment. That five grand would have been better applied to a down payment on a house. She never thought that she wanted him to spend “their” money on her.

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  6. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    As a counterpoint, my Dad warned me about buying something too big. A couple he knew came from real wealth and he could afford a huge rock. It was too big to be practical and always in the way. There are benefits to modesty.

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  7. earl says:

    The teachable moment was she got dumped for making a ridiculous request.

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  8. Yoda says:

    But learn she did not

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  9. Stephanie says:

    “A couple he knew came from real wealth and he could afford a huge rock. It was too big to be practical and always in the way. There are benefits to modesty.”

    LOL what do they call that now days? “Bling” or something???

    She’d be really blinging it out….

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  10. Stephanie says:

    That is REALLY colorful!!!! ❤

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  11. Stephanie says:

    Trying again… Show me the money!

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  12. Stephanie says:

    I guess 1 out of 3 will have to work 😀

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  13. Stephanie says:

    Yikes… she could have wanted this (and been MUCH worse lol)….

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  14. Stephanie says:

    After seeing that up there… I think I’d take the girl who wanted a fancy ring LOL….

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  15. Stephanie says:

    How would they brush their teeth????? Do they even HAVE teeth?

    Bleh!

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  16. Stephanie says:

    Real footage of said man rejecting that BLING 😀

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  17. Stephanie says:

    Fuzzie, I found one for you!

    A little Bling Baby LOL…

    Now you can be A-Blingin’ It too!

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  18. Stephanie says:

    Wait… I’m not so sure that’s actually a bear….

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  19. Ame says:

    Does anybody provide advice for [young] women these days? Would they accept it if somebody did?

    yes. and occasionally, but not often enough.

    – – –

    that story is beyond me. if one of my girls did that i’d kick their butt!

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  20. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Stephanie,
    Poor little critter! How does it sleep? I guess that it has to crawl in a box and pull up the flaps to seal off the light. Cute, though.

    Earl and Yoa,
    Yes, I can see the teqachable moment, but I have to agree, the message did not sink in.

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  21. Stephanie says:

    Goodnight Spawny Peeps!

    Be happy!

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  22. Yeah that’s is in my world an off the charts thing to request for a “friendship ring.” I mean wtf is a “friendship ring” anyway, really??? Is that like a step below “promise ring?” Which btw I am not sure what that means either.

    Sounds like he dodged a bullet.

    Moral of the story: guys never enter a jewelry shop with a date in tow. Never ends well. Gals, likewise don’t push this situation… Won’t end well.

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  23. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda, a good find. I think he was in two 007 films.

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  24. Sigma Frame says:

    Where she really blew it is in asking for a ‘friendship’ ring instead of anything else. The dreaded ‘Friend Zone’! If she asked for a modest pair of earrings it would not have gone so horribly.
    Also, bigger diamonds are directly related to divorce risk. See here. https://goo.gl/images/oPNaXH

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  25. molly says:

    A *friendship ring* is a *starter husband* ring eh.

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  26. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I may be dating myself, but I can remember grade school and it was St. Christopher medals.

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  27. molly says:

    “I guess 1 out of 3 will have to work”

    It DID work Stephanie! Look up and see! YO!

    Girl power!

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  28. molly says:

    (P.S. I must be honest I asked my big cuz to fix it and HE DID!
    … or someone did, think it was him)

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  29. molly says:

    “I may be dating myself” (F. Dubya Bear 6:22 am)

    Were you a good date Fuzzie?
    (heh heh)

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  30. molly says:

    I am getting up to mischief lolly lol lol lol

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  31. molly says:

    It runs in the family

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  32. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Molly,
    I was a very good boy.

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  33. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Make that bear cub.

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  34. molly says:

    Fuzzie did you kiss on the date?

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  35. Cill says:

    Fuzzie did you kiss on the date?

    Now wait a minute here. I suspect it was unintentional but that could be the most amusing rejoinder in years…
    Did you really say that? Yes you did wee molly. I can hardly believe my eyes.

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  36. Cill says:

    Does “kiss on the date” have the same connotations up north as it does down under?

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  37. I don’t think it does Cill, or at least it doesn’t strike me as cheeky! 😉 now I am curious what that implies down under?

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  38. Jewlery is nice and all but there are so many other things I’d much rather get than that. However I do know some women put a lot of stock in it and practically compete in the “whose diamond is biggest?” Contest. Really sad and small way to access yourself or others IMHO. But people do…

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  39. Cheque d'Out says:

    My advice to the young women would be to buy your own fecking ring. Get a proper job.

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  40. Ame says:

    i’m with you, Bloom.

    although I do have one piece i’m particularly fond of an attached to. my oldest bought me a charm bracelet several years ago that she adds a charm to every Christmas and mother’s day. it means the world to me. the charms she chooses and the meanings behind them – priceless. 🙂 🙂 🙂

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  41. Farm Boy says:

    Do Moehau Mans have rings?

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  42. Yes Ame, jewlery like that I can understand. How sweet! 🙂 I do have a few pieces of jewlery I love, too. it’s the “my ring is bigger than your ring so that makes me better” types I don’t get.

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  43. Cheque d'Out says:

    Don’t worry! This not, as it may initially seem, a joke about Wendyball (or ‘soccer’ to some)

    Glasgow Rangers Manager flies to Baghdad to watch a young Iraqi play football, and is suitably impressed and arranges for him to come over to Scotland.Two weeks later Rangers are 4-0 down to Aberdeen with only 20 minutes left.

    The Manager gives the young Iraqi striker the nod, and on he goes.The lad is a sensation and scores 5 goals in 20 minutes and wins the game for Rangers.The fans are delighted, the players and coaches are delighted and the media love the new star.

    When the player comes off the pitch, he phones his Mum to tell her about his first day in Scottish football. “Hello Mum, guess what?” he says in an Iraqi accent. “I played for 20 minutes today, we were 4-0 down but I scored 5 and we won. Everybody loves me, the fans, the media they all love me”.

    “Wonderful”, says his Mum, “let me tell you about my day.Your father got shot in the street and robbed,your sister and I were ambushed, gang raped and beaten, and your brother has joined a gang of looters and all while you were having such a great time”.

    The young lad is very upset.

    “What can I say Mum, except that I am very sorry?”

    Sorry?!!!” says his Mum.”It’s your bloody fault we moved to Glasgow in the first place!!”

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  44. She wanted him to buy her a $5000.00 Friendship Ring.

    I could have worked out an installment plan for her, but I doubt she’d have the oral stamina required.

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  45. BV says:

    A woman I know, two degrees from Harvard, “lost track of” her birth control pill schedule and got “oopsy!” pregnant at 37. She told her boyfriend she would have an abortion within the week if he didn’t marry her. (She was just overwhelmed by the challenge of eating a pill whenever she brushed her teeth in the morning.)

    So he married her, not being into killing babies. He bought her a wedding band.

    Next, she wanted an engagement ring. Problem was, her sister (two degrees from Harvard) was married to a hedge fund guy, so she had a pretty big ring. So a larger ring was called for. He bought her a ring instead of a new aircraft engine, and his aircraft engine costs $50K to rebuild. New ones are $115K.

    Then she wanted “some art” for her office. Her W-2 was in seven figures, but … no art was in the budget. He gave her, after all she was his wife, his favorite canvas.

    There’s blue pill, and then there’s terminally stupid pill.

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  46. Farm Boy says:

    Exchanging dirty jokes is now a sexual relationship at George Washington University

    http://reason.com/blog/2018/01/09/woytowicz-sues-gwu-over-title-ix-farce

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  47. Farm Boy says:

    The Left has some reason to worry that the newfound solicitude for sexual propriety spread by #MeToo might overflow the traditional bounds of political-correctness-as-weapon.

    No different from demands regarding race and identity politics generally, the strictures of political correctness concerning sex do not define rights and wrongs. Rather, they claim authority to suppress such evils as the powerful may impute to their enemies. They also serve the ruling class’s war against Western Civilization. But current demands for “sensitivity” for women’s sense of sexual self-worth, rather than merely enhancing the power of better-connected people over less-connected ones, might actually lead America to consider what proper or improper sexual behavior is.

    Neither P.C.’s partisan nature nor its corrosion of our civilization are in doubt.

    https://amgreatness.com/2018/01/09/sex-vs-political-correctness/

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  48. Farm Boy says:

    France’s most revered actress Catherine Deneuve hit out Tuesday at a new “puritanism” sparked by sexual harassment scandals, declaring that men should be “free to hit on” women.

    She was one of around 100 French women writers, performers and academics who wrote an open letter deploring the wave of “denunciations” that has followed claims that Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein raped and sexually assaulted women over decades.

    They claimed that the “witch-hunt” that has followed threatens sexual freedom.

    “Rape is a crime, but trying to seduce someone, even persistently or cack-handedly, is not — nor is men being gentlemanly a macho attack,” said the letter published in the daily Le Monde.

    “Men have been punished summarily, forced out of their jobs when all they did was touch someone’s knee or try to steal a kiss,” said the letter, which was also signed by Catherine Millet, author of the hugely explicit 2002 bestseller “The Sexual Life of Catherine M.”.

    Men had been dragged through the mud, they argued, for “talking about intimate subjects during professional dinners or for sending sexually-charged messages to women who did not return their attentions.”

    The letter attacked feminist social media campaigns like #MeToo and its French equivalent #Balancetonporc (Call out your pig) for unleashing this “puritanical… wave of purification”.

    – ‘Witch-hunt’ –

    It claimed that “legitimate protest against the sexual violence that women are subject to, particularly in their professional lives”, had turned into a witch-hunt.

    “What began as freeing women up to speak has today turned into the opposite — we intimidate people into speaking ‘correctly’, shout down those who don’t fall into line, and those women who refused to bend” to the new realities “are regarded as complicit and traitors.”

    https://www.afp.com/en/news/206/french-star-deneuve-defends-mens-right-chat-women-doc-w392z1

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  49. Farm Boy says:

    Detransitioners face a lonely and difficult road in today’s era of political correctness. Hollywood, the media, and academia promote a culture hostile to them for even considering changing their minds. This leaves regretters with virtually no place to go to talk about their feelings. The near-total politicization of the field of psychiatry now calls for the total affirmation of transgenderism and implicit punishment for those who don’t comply. This means regretters have a hard time even finding a therapist willing to talk openly and honestly with them about the possibility of de-transitioning.

    http://thefederalist.com/2018/01/09/walt-heyer-proves-sex-change-regret-real-thats-trans-lobby-hates/

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  50. Farm Boy says:

    An “underage” migrant, who was presented as being in a romantic relationship with an underage girl in a controversial German children’s channel television programme, has admitted he is actually an adult.

    The documentary Malvina, Diaa and Love was broadcast in November on the publicly-funded German television channel Kika, which is directed at children aged three to 13, and has been slammed by many as “propaganda” as it favourably presents a largely one-sided relationship between a 16-year-old German girl and an adult Syrian asylum seeker.

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/01/10/migrant-controversial-teen-love-documentary-childrens-tv-channel-adult/

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  51. Farm Boy says:

    Google, according to information released in the Damore lawsuit, is less keen to distance themselves. Numerous posts on internal company communication channels show employees agreeing with, and endorsing Antifa and political violence.

    Breitbart News has previously raised the issue of political violence with Google, after one of its former employees, Tim Chevalier, was revealed to have made multiple calls for political violence on his public social media profiles while at the company. At the time, Google declined to offer a condemnation of Chevalier’s comments, and also declined to offer a general condemnation of political violence or of the Antifa movement.

    According to the Damore complaint, “a large number of Googlers have set their corporate profile pictures to Antifa insignias

    http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/01/09/damore-google-antifa-links/

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  52. Farm Boy says:

    According to a recent lawsuit filed by former Google engineer James Damore, Google’s definition of diversity is “women or individuals who were not Caucasian or Asian.”

    http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/01/09/google-defines-diverse-as-individuals-who-are-not-caucasian-or-asian/

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  53. Farm Boy says:

    Software engineer and political blogger Curtis Yarvin was escorted from Google headquarters by security personnel after his presence triggered an alert, according to information released in James Damore’s class action lawsuit against the company.

    Reportedly, Yarvin was visiting a Google employee for lunch, but his presence at the company’s headquarters triggered a “silent alarm,” culminating in him being escorted from the premises by security

    http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/01/08/conservative-bloggers-visit-to-google-hq-triggered-security-panic/

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  54. thedeti says:

    The word was that she was totally confused by his reaction.

    The level of entitlement amongst women now is totally off the charts. I have an acquaintance, thrice married, three grown children by her first two husbands. She’ 51, physically attractive for her age. Her “requirements” are insane. She expects to be wined and dined at her dates’ expense. (“Since you’re the man, you should pay.” Direct quote.) Gifts, nice things. In shape. Very physically attractive. All expense paid weekend jaunts.

    Perhaps it is a result on repeated attention and validation for effectively just existing. Perhaps there was nobody older and wiser around to tell her that this attention and validation that she has been consuming has limits.

    Yes. These are women who have gotten that kind of treatment in the past. Some of these women are accustomed to being among the most attractive women in the room wherever they are. Most women are accustomed to garnering significant male attention in their youth. I had another 50 year old acquaintance admit “well when I was younger, I never went without male attention when I wanted it.” This is the experience that produces the expectations, that leads to the mindsets these women have. And it doesn’t change all that much as they get older despite the fact that their ability to get commitment from high value men declines rapidly. They still get the illusion though because they do still get sexual interest from a variety of men. For a lot of women, that sexual interest (and sexual outlet) is enough to tide them over through all their disappointments.

    Does anybody provide advice for young women these days?

    Evidently not. All I’m seeing is rah rah you go grrrl! You’re worth it! Don’t settle!

    Would they accept it if somebody did?

    THey don’t. They hear it sometimes but will not accept it. That’s written off as misogyny.

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  55. Farm Boy says:

    Imagine it’s late 2011. The world just found out about Jerry Sandusky, former assistant Penn State football coach who would be convicted of repeatedly raping children in 2012. Penn State higher-ups, in an attempt to turn the focus of the scandal away from the school, decide to turn an annual banquet into a celebration of those fighting child rape. They call up head coach Joe Paterno. They call up President Graham Spanier. They call up athletic director Tim Curley. All of them give long, brave speeches about the evils of sexual exploitation of children resulting in rousing applause from all the Penn State boosters. All the attendees wear pins showing their solidarity with molestation victims. The event is nationally televised.

    You’d be disgusted, wouldn’t you? You’d think to yourself, “Perhaps it isn’t a good idea for a school that just became nationally renowned for one of the worst sex scandals in modern American history to preach about its commitment to the kiddies.”

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/25614/virtue-signaling-anti-virtue-crowd-ben-shapiro

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  56. She’ 51, physically attractive for her age. Her “requirements” are insane. She expects to be wined and dined at her dates’ expense. (“Since you’re the man, you should pay.” Direct quote.) Gifts, nice things. In shape. Very physically attractive. All expense paid weekend jaunts.

    There are a couple very fit women who match this profile at my gym, late 40’s or so. Really you can only tell their age from their face (still nice though) and hands. Bare mid-riffs and calves are sleek and firm. I’m casually friendly with 2-3 of them. Now if one of them was DTF, I’d be fine with it, but that’s about it. No real investment of time or resources is forthcoming from me.

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  57. copperfox3c says:

    The James Damore lawsuit is very interesting, we’ve been discussing it over at the TRP subreddit. Also, a new post on my blog discussing the striking parallels between Christianity and modern Progressivism:

    http://www.illiberal-liberal.com/2018/01/outrage-culture-the-new-religion/

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  58. What the #metoo thing actually wraps back around to is a defense of patriarchy — if women can’t handle navigating the waters themselves, they must need men folk to do it. More irony…

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  59. earlthomas786 says:

    ‘A woman I know, two degrees from Harvard, “lost track of” her birth control pill schedule and got “oopsy!” pregnant at 37. She told her boyfriend she would have an abortion within the week if he didn’t marry her. (She was just overwhelmed by the challenge of eating a pill whenever she brushed her teeth in the morning.)

    So he married her, not being into killing babies. He bought her a wedding band.’

    What a shocker…women can coerce men into marriage too. It would have been no different if she held a gun to his child’s head and said she’d shoot it if they didn’t get married.

    That would be one of those cases where I could see an annulment being possible.

    Men lost a lot of power when women took on hormonal birth control.

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  60. Cheque d'Out says:

    Pretty good

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  61. Farm Boy says:

    It is poetic that today’s justifiable “reign of terror” against un-chivalric men who have sexually harassed or abused women should begin with the iconic progressive, Harvey Weinstein, in the iconic home of progressivism, Hollywood, and with Hollywood’s infamous tool of sexual abuse, the “casting couch.” Conservative men who still believe in chivalry and in treating all women (including, and especially, those whom we would like to bed) with respect, must applaud and support this. Their support, however, comes with an important caveat: We must not automatically presume guilt based on accusations nor on the subjective feelings of a woman (or man) who engaged in consensual sex.

    Looking at today’s headlines (and predicting tomorrow’s) it is completely predictable that the vast majority of men being tied to the stake for burning are Progressive men, from Clinton to Weinstein to Charlie Rose, Kevin Spacey and others. For the past six decades, these men have lived in a world of their own making, one with no moral or ethical limits on their sexual desires, nor any expectation that they act with chivalry. Thus anything short of actual rape has been within their acceptable limits and, so long as they espoused progressive ideals, their fellow Progressives were content to give them a perpetual pass. There are no better examples than the three most powerful sexual predators, Harvey Weinstein, Ted Kennedy and Bill Clinton.

    http://www.bookwormroom.com/2017/11/22/sexual-reign-of-terror-here-going/

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  62. thedeti says:

    Headhunter:

    Agreed. And for these 50 year old very attractive women, most of them can easily attract men, even high status men, for some sex and some fun. But not for anything more.

    The complaint from women in this cohort about men is:

    –the young guys think I’m an easy cougar

    –the men in my age group look old/have no money/are no fun/won’t commit

    –can’t find a good looking fun guy who will commit, or at least will not pump and dump me

    they are erroneously translating their 23 year old value into their 51 year old selves, and can’t see that that translation just doesn’t take at all.

    These are just the same complaints we’re hearing from women at 45 that we hear from them at 25.

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  63. thedeti says:

    Oh yeah:

    The last most important complaint the 45 and over cohort has is:

    –the good looking attractive men are all players and want just sex

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  64. Farm Boy says:

    Ladies, if you want commitment you have to be worth it

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  65. Farm Boy says:

    Apparently James Damore didn’t get the memo

    Compelling evidence supporting Damore and Gudeman’s lawsuit comes from a recent interview published in Quillette. Claire Lehmann interviews “Gideon Scopes” (a pseudonym), a software engineer who occasionally writes for the publication. Scopes has Asperger syndrome. He also has extensive experience navigating gender issues in tech:

    I asked Gideon if he thought that the American media painted a distorted picture of the gender gap in tech. He told me yes. He chalked it up to three factors: a growing tendency towards collectivism in American culture, combined with a blank slate view of human nature and an empathy gap towards men.

    … When women talk about being made to feel uncomfortable at work, or being sexually harassed, we feel empathy and want to punish the wrong-doers. But we don’t have the same reaction for “geeks,” or “techbros”. Because our understanding of neurodiversity is painfully lacking, our culture tends to view men as a homogenous category, seeing all men as inheritors of privilege and all men as possessing the masculine traits that foster toughness and resilience. We have a habit of ignoring those who don’t, and when they do talk about their vulnerability, we are inclined to ignore, or ridicule them for it.

    Scopes believes Damore falls somewhere on the Autism spectrum, hence his ignorance in releasing such a highly charged memo, commenting, “If he didn’t get the message that the women in science movement wasn’t interested in dialogue and is glad to destroy anyone who questioned it then he must be [on the spectrum].”

    https://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/empathy-gap-blame-james-damores-problems-google/

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  66. mgtowhorseman says:

    Deti

    Women’s value is based on
    Sex
    Homemaking\helpmate
    Childbearing.

    At 40+ childbearing is out.

    A list of demands indicates no helpmate tendencies.

    So what else is left EXCEPT sexual value??

    And of course you don’t need to commit if she willingly “pumps”

    Wanna avoid the “dump”? Don’t go for the ” pump”.!
    Duh!!

    Oh but then you have NO value to a man……Oops!

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  67. mgtowhorseman says:

    Oh and Major Duh

    If a guy is in his 50s and has even 1 of the big 4
    Looks, Money, Fun, Committed

    Why the hell is he not with a woman
    Who Has Had Him Since He Was 35!!!

    Duh! Duh! Duh!

    Well then what about all the guys my friends divorced??!!!
    (Well that is the only cohort of acceptable guys in their 50s)

    Well if your friends didn’t want em why would you?

    And if they have been “married and dumped” why would they wanna do it again any more than you wanna “pump and dump” again???

    Riddle me that Catwoman!!

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  68. mgtowhorseman says:

    And looking at the 40+ crowd at the awards shows like Golden Globes.
    These are the top tier of the cohort.

    Plunging necklines, hairdoes, boobs still can’t hide
    Turkey neck
    Skeletor face
    Man hands
    Arm wings.

    Even a top tier 50s 10 would lose to a 30s 5.

    Imagine the average “gym 10”.

    Granny….you aint that good.

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  69. earl says:

    ‘Women’s value is based on
    Sex
    Homemaking\helpmate
    Childbearing.

    At 40+ childbearing is out.

    A list of demands indicates no helpmate tendencies.

    So what else is left EXCEPT sexual value??’

    I wouldn’t even be for sure the sexual value would be that high either. If she’s been on the carousel that long, I’d hate to think what surprises she’s picked up along the way.

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  70. Cheque d'Out says:

    No. Really

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  71. mgtowhorseman says:

    Really?

    The Stan??

    At 95??

    Is anyone left??

    At least Anna Nicole Married the 95 year old millionaire!!

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5250513/Marvel-creator-Stan-Lee-95-accused-groping-nurses.html

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  72. SFC Ton says:

    One of the things I have learned as a business owner is never do bidness with hindus. Nasty, immoral folks right there.

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  73. copperfox3c says:

    @Farmboy: That is a great link to the Gideon Scopes interview … especially the comment about “our culture tends to view men as homogeneous category, seeing all men as the inheritors of privilege”. So on point.

    I wrote a post nearly a couple years ago now about Virtue Signaling and the Male Apex Fallacy about that very topic. Such a ubiquitous phenomenon in the modern day West that most people overlook.

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  74. SFC Ton says:

    LOL the good looking, fun 50 year old dudes are banging 30 year old chicks.

    Bitches be tripping indeed

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  75. copperfox3c says:

    I am becoming more and more convinced that the role of a great leader is to primarily keep “the mob” in check, to keep sides in balance, temper the fire … and when you see the mob rising like it is, like you see at Google, then it really signals a “failure of leadership”.

    Human nature, unchecked, has a way of getting out of control.

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  76. BV says:

    Deti: “The last most important complaint the 45 and over cohort has is:
    –the good looking attractive men are all players and want just sex”

    Another complaint I hear is “I don’t need some old man I have to take care of.” A 50-something woman is going to attract more attention from someone 60-70 than 40-50, as she would prefer. A 70 year-old man has more health concerns, usually, than a 45 year-old man. This makes her feel old and were he to have a health event, she would need to help out and the marriage would not be all about her.

    Since a single man in her age range will have already been divorced, Deti’s anecdote also illustrates how women do not credit and respect the disproportionate impact of divorce in men. They simply ignore it. I’d assert that when they say, “Oh, he’s just another guy who won’t commit” she’s actually met someone who is gunshy owing to prior experience, who tried to explain what divorce did to men and realized there was no point in explaining, and simply went dark on the subject. Women need to spend some time understanding their market if they want more social success.

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  77. BV says:

    Elsewhere yesterday I read another #metoo discussion, and a woman jumped in and said “it makes me feel uncomfortable to be in a co-ed gym, because I feel like men are looking at me and judging me based on how dolled up I am just to work out. So I switched to one where there is a female-only space and a co-ed space” (no male-only section) and I can choose based on what I see when I get there.” (Cynically, one could think that she sees if there are any men she *wants* to cold approach her.)

    Somebody said, “try wearing baggy sweats.” “I shouldn’t have to!”

    “It must really be traumatic for you to go to the beach or a restaurant or to walk down a street.” “GFY.”

    I mentioned that for a self-described “empowered” woman, she seemed to think she needed protection and subsidizing, and I noted that the men at her gym were fools to pay 50% more in fees so that women had their own section men couldn’t use. “GFY, you’re not oppressed.”

    I think this “I’m a NASTY woman!” stuff is catching on. I struggle a little bit with the profanity and aggression, though, at the same time they’re demanding safe spaces. But obviously it’s just about power and control, and both attitudes can be deployed today successfully — and simultaneously.

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  78. SFC Ton says:

    I was at a bar a few nights back, meeting some folks I semi know. One of the tag along had a shitty attitude. Told her just because she had a nice ass didn’t mean she should show her ass all the time. Folks laughing at her fixed her shit but really women should be leashed and muzzled in public

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  79. earl says:

    She thinks men are looking and judging her for how dolled up she is working out but refuses to wear baggy sweats?

    That woman sounds like a nutcase who is uncomfortable all the time, and blames men for it. That’s what all those #metoo women sound like.

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  80. Ame says:

    i have two female family members that fit Deti’s description. both were very attractive when they were younger and played that for all it was worth. both are divorced by their own choice. both want their ‘sugar daddy.’ and I’ve heard some form of, “I want a husband, too,” from both of them.

    they have yet to accept that what they can ‘get’ and what they ‘want’ are so different they’re not even on the same playing field … they’re not even in the same sport or universe.

    then there’s my mother who doesn’t want another man but expects everyone to take care of her. one of my sisters has relented and is doing the duty. not me.

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  81. Cheque d'Out says:

    Mo’ lolz

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  82. Farm Boy says:

    It’s not that the 100 women from the entertainment, publishing, and academic fields in France who signed the letter approve of sexual harassment. Their crime is that they don’t agree enough with the hysterics who equate a hand on the knee with rape and sexual harassment.

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/actress-catherine-deneuve-excoriated-criticizing-metoo-movement/

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  83. thedeti says:

    Since a single man in her age range will have already been divorced, Deti’s anecdote also illustrates how women do not credit and respect the disproportionate impact of divorce in men. They simply ignore it.

    I find it interesting that most of these women won’t acknowledge any impact of divorce on men. It’s ironic, because most of these women are themselves divorced and should understand how it affects people.

    What’s even more ironic is how these women say they want commitment and yet don’t understand why someone might not want to commit to a woman who ALREADY has at least one failed marriage under her belt. This is a woman who, out of the gate, already is two steps behind with a poor track record of making a marriage work. Either she picked a shitty guy, or she’s an alpha widow, or she’s a bitch, or she’s crazy, or she cheated, or she’s a drunk, or whatever.

    And if it was primarily the ex husband’s fault, well, um, she picked him. She doesn’t know herself well enough to screen men for compatibility. She doesnt’ know what she wants or who she is. She doesnt know how to pick good fits for herself. This tells me she might have a skewed, distorted or poorly defined self identity, which is a hallmark of Borderline Personality Disorder. Or, hell, she’s just immature and has some growing up to do, in which case she’s NOT fixed and NOT ready for a big girl relationship.

    ‘You already fucked up one marriage. How do I know you’re fixed? How do I know you won’t do to me what you did to your ex husband?’

    When I think about it, immaturity and not “putting on our big girl panties” and sucking it up and doing the shit that needs done is a huge problem for a lot of women now.

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  84. Farm Boy says:

    The Pensacola, Florida branch of the Women’s March is banning the symbolic pink pussy hats to avoid offending transgender women and women of color.

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/10/pensacola-womens-march-bans-py-hats-because-theyre-transphobic/

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  85. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    For our Glorious Patriarch,

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  86. Love says:

    As a woman, I can’t always give the best advice since I only see what half the population sees. So please help me with this. What advice should I give a beautiful 18 year old girl who doesn’t have the money to go to the university of her choice? She is very smart and a nice girl. Others have told her to open an online account and get a sugar daddy. She is honest that she needs help with college. Not into deceiving or lying to anyone. Please give me your feedback about the pros and cons of this route.

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  87. JDG says:

    What the #metoo thing actually wraps back around to is a defense of patriarchy — if women can’t handle navigating the waters themselves, they must need men folk to do it.

    The truth is gonna come out sooner or later.

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  88. earl says:

    ‘Others have told her to open an online account and get a sugar daddy.’

    That’s the pc term for prostituting herself. If she has any dignity she won’t go that route.

    If I gave her advice…I’d tell her to go to a junior college or community college for the first couple of years to get the prerequisites out of the way and get a two year degree there. They are much less expensive and you get sometimes better education. While she’s there pick up a part time job to save up for the university. That’s the route i went before heading to State U.

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  89. earl says:

    ‘I get e-mails all the time from people who are suffering from the effects of the Sexual Revolution, which was put in place by selfish adults so they could do whatever they wanted. Children suffered a lot from this. Obviously, the painful of experience of their parents divorcing hurt their view of God. But divorce also hurts a child’s ability to know what a man loving a woman in a stable commitment looks like, and what a woman loving a man in a stable commitment looks like. I mean – what does love between sexes look like when the “in love” feeling has worn off, and all that remains is the commitment to build something together? I think that a lot is riding on the stability of the relationship between the child’s mother and father.’

    NEW STUDY: CHILDREN OF DIVORCED PARENTS ARE LESS LIKELY TO BE RELIGIOUS

    https://winteryknight.com/2018/01/10/new-study-children-of-divorced-parents-are-less-likely-to-be-religious-2/

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  90. SFC Ton says:

    Fuck the university of her choice and pick one she can afford

    Sign up, get the gi bill
    Get the hell out
    Go to college

    Pick a 2 year degree that pays well like dental hygiene in my AO. minimum debt, good demand, decent starting pay

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  91. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Love,
    It is something to consider. A better recommendation for young men, but saving money can benefit anyone.
    http://captaincapitalism.blogspot.com/2018/01/how-western-governors-university-will.html

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  92. Love says:

    Thanks Earl. But a community college will set her behind. A part time job won’t pay for a $60k college tuition. Some universities are better than others in a certain area of study and you will be more employable if you graduate from them.

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  93. Love says:

    Thanks Ton. Do you mean get the GI bill as in she should join the military?

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  94. Ame says:

    University of the People:

    https://go.uopeople.edu/tuition-free-degree.html?&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=Bing&utm_campaign=New+-+Brand&utm_term=university+of+the+peopleExact

    absolutely do NOT take out any debt. period. INCLUDING getting a sugar daddy.

    if she can’t get what she *wants* she needs to get what she can *afford.* life is full of hard choices. make one.

    work a semester and earn the money to pay for a course or two. keep going till you get the degree DEBT FREE. so it takes you ten years? so what? in ten years she has a degree that is PAID in full, ZERO debt. and all her peers will be drowning in debt. ten years is not too long to do it right.

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  95. earl says:

    ‘Some universities are better than others in a certain area of study and you will be more employable if you graduate from them.’

    Yeah of course they would say that. How else would they justify the outrageous tuition to put more college students in crippling debt?

    I’d also take Ton’s approach…you can’t always get what you want. You either take a cheaper route, find another profession, or sell out your dignity to pay an outrageous tuition.

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  96. Ame says:

    I find it interesting that most of these women won’t acknowledge any impact of divorce on men. It’s ironic, because most of these women are themselves divorced and should understand how it affects people.

    no. they do not. and it incenses me. and they absolutely (in general) do not care at all. at all. and it incenses me. they think men should just ‘get over it.’ B.S.

    imo – men whose wives cheat on them and leave them for another man are wounded much more deeply than women in the reverse situation. but women refuse to see this. absolutely refuse, and do not care.

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  97. Love says:

    Thanks Ame. So 10 years of working at Starbucks as a barista? Then she finally graduates at 28 and is lucky to find an entry level position … Competing with 21 year olds.

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  98. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Molly,
    Bears don’t kiss. Our snouts are too big.

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  99. SFC Ton says:

    Yup

    It will cover 100% of the cost and some money to live on

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  100. earl says:

    Well if she’s a beautiful 18 year old she could always attract a good man, get married, have his kids, and then go to college after they’ve grown a little. Then she wouldn’t need a sugar daddy because she’d have a husband.

    I know it’s a radical concept, but I like throwing out radical concepts.

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  101. Love says:

    Yes, it is a very honest and dignified thing to do. But what is your opinion of women in the military ?

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  102. SFC Ton says:

    To repete myself

    Why is this girl some special snowflake that just has to have everything just her way? Metric fuck ton of kids don’t get/ can’t afford the life she wants. Your friend ain’t special. I know a girl working at chick file’a and going to college. She is pretty, and bright and nice but her looser ass parents liked pills better then her.

    That’s just life.

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  103. Love says:

    Yes I would have done that at 18. If I could go back in time.

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  104. SFC Ton says:

    It ain’t good but how many realistic options does she have?

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  105. Ame says:

    that’s not any different than it is already … except that the 28 year old who go their degree when they were 21, who is competing with the 21 year old, is paying huge amounts of college debt and will continue to do so for 20+ more years. i’m in my 50’s and I know people who are still paying off college loans. stupid.

    and I agree with the comment that one can NOT believe the university. they are in the business of selling their product. they have spent oodles of money marketing their product. they are NOT going to tell you anything that will entice you away from their product.

    higher education is a huge scam.

    it’s kind of like when your baby starts walking. everyone is totally freaked over what age each child begins walking … then at which age they are potty trained. I promise you … once they start kindergarten no one cares when they began walking or when they were potty trained if they’re neurotypical. it’s the degree that counts, and as long as it’s from an accredited university, shop around. get the best deal for you and your budget. do not believe the university – they have paid a ton of people a ton of money to manipulate you into buying their product.

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  106. Love says:

    Given your expertise, why do you think its not good?

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  107. SFC Ton says:

    Greta concept earl. Piss poor likely hood of success given the tactical reality on the ground

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  108. Love says:

    Thank you. Great points.

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  109. earl says:

    My parents didn’t help me out with college…dad told me to go to a JUCO, work, and save up. So when I finally went to rich snobby U to get the STEM degree in my field…I had my JUCO degree paid off. And I still worked the whole time I was at the rich snobby U so that I wasn’t up to my eyeballs in debt when I got out. That’s life.

    And I still had to compete against a lot of college grads and older people to get the jobs I got. You either put in the effort for it, or you whine and make excuses.

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  110. Ame says:

    I agree with Ton – what makes her think she’s so special she can have what she wants just b/c she’s beautiful? life sucks … it’s what you make of it that counts. she needs to get over herself, look at her REALISTIC options, and do the best she can with what she has. that should NOT include selling herself off to the highest bidder – man or university.

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  111. SFC Ton says:

    Accommodating females has finished ruining the militarily. Right up there with integrating the military

    Most female soldiers are sluts and they fucking suck at there job but your friend might as well be on the military welfare gravy train too. She can’t do any more harm then has already been done and it will give her 3 years of full tuition paid to any school that will take her.

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  112. Stephanie says:

    “absolutely do NOT take out any debt. period. INCLUDING getting a sugar daddy.”

    LOL Ame!

    It’s interesting to see how times have changed regarding marriage ages and such. It used to be somewhat normal for women younger than college age to be married off pretty quickly to men 10-15 years their senior, and then start their lives together.

    So beautiful.

    One of my great grandmothers married her school teacher once she graduated their form of “secondary” or high school lol. And that was totally acceptable back then.

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  113. Stephanie says:

    I mean to me that is somewhat like getting a sugar daddy.

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  114. SFC Ton says:

    Lots of great advice. Good advice from both Earl and Fuzzie, though all the girls I know of marrying age are struggling to find a husband, and the guys I know who would make good husbands in this case dont want to marry and won’t marry unless the chick works/ makes money as a form of protection

    Not sure how the sugar baby deal works. I know a guy who had a long term kept woman but most of the guys I know with the loot to pull it off don’t have to pay to play.

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  115. SFC Ton says:

    Yeah Step it’s interesting how a state sponsored license can church up what’s basically prostitution

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  116. Farm Boy says:

    Germans are enthusiastic about the introduction of robot sex dolls to the mainstream market, with one in five saying they would like to buy one.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5254237/One-five-Germans-want-robot-sex-doll.html

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  117. Stephanie says:

    “Yeah Step it’s interesting how a state sponsored license can church up what’s basically prostitution”

    If it’s love it’s not prostitution ❤

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  118. Farm Boy says:

    To those who have studied Soviet history, it is evident that in the quasi-Stalinist atmosphere at Google, heterosexual white males became the “class enemy,” like the kulak peasants annihilated during the forced collectivization of Soviet agriculture. Denounced by Lenin as “bloodsuckers, vampires, plunderers of the people and profiteers,” these were peasant farmers who were demonized for being slightly more prosperous than their neighbors. The Bolsheviks made kulaks the scapegoats for the failures of Soviet policy. Bread shortages were blamed on the kulaks — a slur which in Russian implied greed — and when Stalin came to power, a campaign of genocidal violence was unleashed against these scapegoats, a policy that resulted in the notorious terror famine known as the Holodomor.

    http://theothermccain.com/2018/01/10/google-lawsuit-exposes-stalinist-climate-protecting-anti-white-anti-male-bias/

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  119. RichardP says:

    “Some universities are better than others in a certain area of study and you will be more employable if you graduate from them.”

    True.

    “What advice should I give a beautiful 18 year old girl who doesn’t have the money to go to the university of her choice? She is very smart and a nice girl.”

    “Beautiful”, “smart”, and “nice girl” can be very subjective.

    If she truely was smart, she would have huddled with her school counselor at the beginning of high school to map out a plan. It’s pretty much over by the end of the first semester of 11th grade – because it is your GPA up to that point that is available to send to colleges who look at such things. Plus, by half-way through 11th grade, you need to be applying for scholarships, grants, etc. If she was smart, the school counselor would have likely sought her out abou these things.

    If she is a nice girl, why is the phrase “sugar daddy” even present here? (rhetorical)
    —————

    If she only wants to go to college to increase her chance of finding a worthwhile husband, then say so. Otherwise …
    —————

    What is she interested in? What academic subjects does she excel at? Is she thinking in terms of career – something that the college experience can open doors to which might not otherwise be open to her? If that is the case, there is more than one way to get the education she needs for the career she would like to persue. If she is driven by a desire for a particular career (in general), then she should broaden her focus beyond college. With the internet, there are now more resources than ever before that can help make “education” happen. And business will often put folks through school if they see that they have potential, so she could get the job first and the schooling later.

    On the other hand, if she has no particular idea about a career, but just wants the college experience (which is an OK thing to want, but only if you can afford it), then all of the suggestions above apply.
    —————

    If she seriously wants an education, I would recommend that she go back to her high school counselor and get introduced to all of the resources that she should already be aware of by this point.

    To paraphrase a saying whose author I don’t remember – no matter how far down the wrong road one has gone, it’s never to late to turn back. No matter how much one didn’t pay attention to what the high school guidance counselor said, it’s never too late to go back and ask for help.

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  120. RichardP says:

    This link should give her some ideas about where and how to focus her information gathering. She can Google on “College Coach” + “Admission Assistance” + “her State or City” to find someone with knowledge of what is available close to her.

    https://www.getintocollege.com/why-college-coach/how-college-coach-works

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  121. Ame says:

    when it comes to higher education with few financial choices, one must think outside the box. where does she want to be in ten, twenty years? what kind of reputation does she want? does she want to get married – if so, what will she have to offer a man?

    here’s another link to consider … something to think about, broaden one’s thinking: https://www.uncollege.org/.

    there will ALWAYS be competition from somewhere.

    look beyond the next four years. who and what do you want to be? to become? to be remembered as? what kind of reputation do you want? what do you want to be know for? as?

    will it cost her something? absolutely. EVERYTHING costs something. that’s life in the grown-up world.

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  122. Love says:

    The sugar daddy situation would most likely be with a man 20 years her senior. Probably a man with the financial means but one who wouldn’t normally be able to get the attention or date a young girl her age.

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  123. Love says:

    Thank you Richard. She has a 4.0 GPA and is interested in the medical route. I think she initially thought her parents were going to support her … They recently told her they don’t have the money. She has been accepted to several schools yet the one she wants – which aligns best with her career ambitions did not offer her a full ride scholarship.

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  124. Stephanie says:

    “If she truely was smart, she would have huddled with her school counselor at the beginning of high school to map out a plan. It’s pretty much over by the end of the first semester of 11th grade – because it is your GPA up to that point that is available to send to colleges who look at such things. Plus, by half-way through 11th grade, you need to be applying for scholarships, grants, etc. If she was smart, the school counselor would have likely sought her out abou these things.

    If she is a nice girl, why is the phrase “sugar daddy” even present here? (rhetorical)”

    All that is pretty much true. I was joking about the sugar daddy in comparing it to my great grandmother marrying her teacher.

    I definitely think college is a good way to find your provider (which is what a sugar daddy is in a way) and lover in one man. “Alpha Provider” used to be a term around the sphere. And no, it’s definitely not prostitution if it’s marriage and they love each other.

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  125. Love says:

    Absolutely Ame. Everything comes with a price. Yet as stated in the comments above, there are 50 year old women searching for sugar daddies. A business transaction. Doesn’t it make more sense for a young girl who is in need to do so? There are obviously men out there who want to spend their money in this manner (willingly).
    As for reputation… How would others know when in a large city? Or even different locations ?

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  126. BV says:

    1. I have a couple young friends who went Guard, including a 19 year old girl who is learning to drive semis. I don’t know if she plans to use Guard benefits to go to school, or if she is going to just drive over the road. Maybe both, who knows. She will be reasonably independent within the year, I think. If she goes OTR, with a decent company (which will be easier for her because diversity) she should make $35 or $40K out of the chute.

    2. I know another two who are in ROTC and will go regular Army in the summer, post-commissioning.

    3. She needs to be careful that she is not recruited into a college where, to meet their admission numbers, they sell her the line that loans and grants will take care of her costs. Colleges do that routinely. I have two friends who completed their B.A.’s here by borrowing the moon, and are 28 now. The guy is okay, he’s a QA manager on the fast track in the meatpacking industry. The woman is not okay: she has a bullshit medical services job and is not able to pay down her principle. And she lives with her parents — at 28.

    I advise all high school kids to go military, or go to the community college. There are guaranteed admissions to the three state universities if a child gets a B average and completes required courses (distribution requirements).

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  127. BV says:

    I meant to add that the Earl’s direction I absolutely endorse, since he said it first.

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  128. Ame says:

    we have recently started seeing a new dentist. she is about my age and has two daughters and is super smart, super on top of her game, was INCREDIBLE with my aspie-girl – I mean, over-the-top amazing with her. has a beautiful office with great staff in a prime location. you know how she started out? getting an associates degree at the local junior college. then she went on to be a dental hygienist. THEN she went back to become a dentist.

    there are tons of paths in the medical field. she really needs to broaden her thoughts and ideas on how to reach her goals. she could begin getting any kind of job as a tech in the medical field and continue to go to school. get the next degree she can obtain. and then the next. if she thinks she must go straight through the traditional route, she is severely limiting herself.

    at 18 it seems overwhelming. it may even seem pointless to go the ‘long way.’ but i’m telling you as one who’s been there, done that, she has much more time than she thinks.

    my first husband and I married very young, and we went to this financial planning workshop. they told us that in one’s 20’s is when you should invest in your education. we were a little leery of this b/c though he already had his bachelor’s, he really wanted his MBA – that was a big deal in the 80’s. he didn’t want to loose time, concerned about who he’d be competing against, etc. but I strongly encouraged him b/c that was what he was passionate about. we moved closer to the school, he quit his job and went back full-time (night time mba’s weren’t a thing yet), and I worked full time. he graduated at the top of his class and took a job where they only interviewed the top two. it was the best decision we made. he went on to get several needed certifications to do what he really wanted to do, and then he did it. he loved it.

    but everyone at that age is worried about the same thing … how long will it take … will I still be marketable … how much will it cost – financially and otherwise. ten years seems like a LONG time at that age, but please listen to those of us who’ve been around awhile … it’s not.

    but if she narrowly focuses herself thinking there’s only one way to reach her goals, she’s severely limiting her choices.

    jobs in the medical field are wide open – especially at the bottom. get a bottom job and learn. work your way up. keep taking classes. the hands-on learning will be as beneficial as the textbook and classroom learning. she has options.

    btw – a high school 4.0 is great … what’s even greater is if she can do the job and make the cut in school … and even greater than that is if she learns what it’s like to fail and pick herself up and keep going without compromising herself – that’s priceless.

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  129. Love says:

    Thanks Ame. That’s very inspirational. I will share that story with her.

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  130. Love says:

    Either way she’s taking money from someone… one man or the government – aka tax payers. Wouldn’t it be better to take it from that one person who willingly wants to do it?

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  131. Ame says:

    does she want to marry her sugar daddy? does she want to marry at all? will there be a man at the end of that rainbow who will want a woman who used a man to get her degree? idk the answers to those questions. but a sugar daddy is still a type of ‘debt’ … she needs to make sure she looks into the future and is willing to pay the price of having one. what if she’s half way through and he’s done with her? what if she doesn’t like what he demands? what if he develops health issues and requires more from her to continue to pay her bills? those are a lot of ‘what-if’s’ for something that she can accomplish by other creative means. what if something happens to her – a car accident – and she looses her beauty? will he still want her on his arm?

    her beauty is a wonderful gift that she needs to use wisely. it will open doors to places – places that are both good and bad. choose wisely.

    her choices are not black-and-white. her perception of her choices is distorted by her age. that is neither good nor bad, it simply is – it’s true for most all 18 years olds regardless of their gpa and beauty and ambition. the choices she makes now will affect the whole rest of her life. take the time to choose wisely.

    at 28 she will still have a LOT of choices and a LOT of life to live … IF she makes wise choices between now and then. either way, in ten years she’ll still be 28 is she lives that long. think ahead. look at the reality not the perception.

    and who will know? first, she will. second, her potential husband if she does choose to marry someday. as is said over and over out here in the manosphere … N count matters. a lot. a LOT.

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  132. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Love,
    I don’t know if it is still true, but in the past the US Navy was very supportive of personell who pursued academic goals, if they were in line with what the Navy could use. It is something to look into.

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  133. Love says:

    Thanks Fuzzie. She is a girlee girl, so I don’t know if she would be too keen on joining the military. But it is worth thinking about.

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  134. BV says:

    “Either way she’s taking money from someone… one man or the government – aka tax payers. Wouldn’t it be better to take it from that one person who willingly wants to do it?”

    She’ll be crippled for life.

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  135. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Love,
    It sounds as if Earl’s strategy is best. Live at home, and make the most of community college, thereby minimizing the need for debt. I don’t think the sugar daddy idea is going to work for all practical purposes.

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  136. SFC Ton says:

    Join the military, get out with an honorable discharge and you have fulfilled your obligations, then it’s up to the government go fulfill its promise

    Vs sugar baby aka whoring.

    Don’t seem like of a competition between the 2

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  137. Cheque d'Out says:

    Same stream as yesterday(? or the day before)

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  138. Cheque d'Out says:

    His latest. MGTOW Uni AKA Feminist Indoctrination Centres #SydneyMGTOW

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  139. If she got a full ride scholarship offer at a lesser school, any school, she should take that over a very unstable sugar daddy route. As people said there’s no guarantee a sugar daddy will finance four years and if/when he won’t, then what? It’s a very unstable basket to put ones eggs in. It just seems easy, but there’s a cost to everything.

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  140. earlthomas786 says:

    If she has to sell her body (and let’s face it, that’s what a sugar daddy transaction is) to go to college…then she might want to reconsider the path she’s trying to take.

    I guarentee you if she goes down the sugar daddy route…she’s not finishing college.

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  141. Farm Boy says:

    Probably she shoukd not get a degree that has the word “studies” in it

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  142. Farm Boy says:

    Maybe she should be taught the red pill. Learning that the mainstream stuff that is shoved in your face is not always reality is the start of a good education

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  143. Love says:

    If only there was a Red Pill studies taught at universities.

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  144. mgtowhorseman says:

    Fucking unbelieveable!!

    Lets just call it out!

    Sugar daddy is a young girl Having Sex! Frequently! Repeatedly!
    With an old guy For Money!
    Where the old guy is not socially adept or average looking enough to get a 5 to have sex with
    And\or is Morally Bankrupt enough to have an ongoing Sex For Money relationship!

    “Oh we will just go for dinner and hold hands for 60K a year! Its okay!”

    What? Are You Stupid?

    Love I respect your writing and I don’t make this personal.

    But Sugar Daddy is trying to tie a pretty bow around it.
    It needs calling out.

    P.s. anyone who does this either becomes an alpha widow or an internalized whore.
    In either case totally unmarriageable.

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  145. mgtowhorseman says:

    I assume this is the daughter of a friend.

    Ask the parent.

    “Is it okay that everyone knows that your daughter is a Prostitute??

    At her wedding I will make a toast to the groom and the Whore. Okay?”

    That is what that route will do.

    Fucking unbelieveable that “nice girls” are naive enough to do this!

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  146. Farm Boy says:

    If only there was a Red Pill studies taught at universities.

    That is what this and other Manosphere sites are for

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  147. Farm Boy says:

    The Twitterati heard whispers that Roiphe, in a March feature for Harper’s, will name the woman responsible for the Shitty Media Men list, a kind of informal blacklist of journalists and editors who allegedly behave badly towards women, and they went berserk. They said this would endanger the creator of the Shitty Media Men list.

    http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/the-misogyny-of-metoo-katie-roiphe/20746

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  148. Farm Boy says:

    I was incredibly naïve when I made the spreadsheet. I was naïve because I did not understand the forces that would make the document go viral. I was naïve because I thought that the document would not be made public, and when it became clear that it would be, I was naïve because I thought that the focus would be on the behavior described in the document, rather than on the document itself. It is hard to believe, in retrospect, that I really thought this. But I did….

    In the weeks after the spreadsheet was exposed, my life changed dramatically…. This escalated when I learned Katie Roiphe would be publishing my name in a forthcoming piece in Harper’s magazine. In early December, Roiphe had emailed me to ask if I wanted to comment for a Harper’s story she was writing on the “feminist moment.” She did not say that she knew I had created the spreadsheet. I declined and heard nothing more from Roiphe or Harper’s until I received an email from a fact checker with questions about Roiphe’s piece. “Katie identifies you as a woman widely believed to be one of the creators of the Shitty Men in Media List,” the fact checker wrote. “Were you involved in creating the list? If not, how would you respond to this allegation?” The next day, a controversy ensued on Twitter after Roiphe’s intention to reveal my identity was made public. People who opposed the decision by Harper’s speculated about what would happen to me as a result of being identified. They feared that I would be threatened, stalked, raped, or killed. The outrage made it seem inevitable that my identity would be exposed even before the Roiphe piece ran. All of this was terrifying. I still don’t know what kind of future awaits me now that I’ve stopped hiding….

    http://althouse.blogspot.com/2018/01/in-october-i-created-google-spreadsheet.html

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  149. Farm Boy says:

    The rise of moviegoers in China has created an incentive for Hollywood to make movies that appeal to Chinese audiences as well as Western ones. There are so many entertainment options now, and marketing costs have become so astronomical, that Hollywood has decided to play it safe and focus on large, well-established franchises for movies and sequels. Put all this together and you get a lot of movies like the latest Transformers installment, which dominated the Chinese box office but barely registered in the U.S.

    Now the news is that the latest Star Wars movie fell flat in China. Its opening weekend haul there was barely half of what the previous installment garnered a couple years ago. I fear eventually this means that future Star Wars movies will look a lot more like Transformers movies (less talk, more boom), and in the long run everything will become some version of robot dinosaurs fighting or a “Wolf Warrior” sequel.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-01-10/saving-hollywood-from-the-chinese-box-office

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  150. Farm Boy says:

    Now, he’s facing an onslaught of accusations of transphobia, all because he refused to kiss transgender celebrity (in the UK, at least) India Willoughby. This was after he explicitly stated he wouldn’t date a trans woman. He was, in essence, Harvey Weinsteined, and yet, he’s the bad guy?

    https://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/rb-singer-ginuwine-refused-kiss-transgender-live-tv-left-losing-mind/

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  151. Farm Boy says:

    Details from diversity training sessions, accounts of alleged reverse discrimination, and screenshots of internal communications on company forums and message boards in the lawsuit cast the company culture as extremely hostile to employees with unpopular opinions, especially heterosexuals, men, white people, and those who hold conservative views.

    http://thefederalist.com/2018/01/10/19-insane-tidbits-james-damores-lawsuit-googles-office-environment/

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  152. Farm Boy says:

    Grammy-winning singer Seal blasted Oprah Winfrey in a searing post to his Instagram account Thursday, accusing the billionaire media mogul and potential 2020 presidential candidate of being “part of the problem” in Hollywood’s culture of sexual harassment and abuse.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2018/01/11/seal-oprah-winfrey-weinstein-part-problem/

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  153. Love says:

    Thanks for your input horseman. What is an alpha widow? The parents do not know. I was told this info in confidence. I wanted to make sure I gave her sound advice.

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  154. Stephanie says:

    “her beauty is a wonderful gift that she needs to use wisely. it will open doors to places – places that are both good and bad. choose wisely.”

    Very true.

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  155. Ame says:

    Horseman nailed it.

    and … she would BREAK her parents’ hearts. it’s NOT a crime for parents to not be able to afford super-inflated, over-and-falsely-marketed higher education. but then to turn around and take a sugar daddy because her parents can’t pay for ‘the best’ because that’s what she ‘wants’ and she ‘deserves’ because she’s beautiful and smart? despicable. she needs a huge dose of reality and to be slapped upside the head. if she were my daughter i’d kick her ass and wonder where in the heck i went wrong to raise such a self-absorbed and selfish and stupid daughter. she’d best learn this young b/c if she doesn’t she’ll become ‘that’ woman who’s been talked about out here ad-nauseam.

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  156. Love says:

    To be fair, others advised her to create an online account on a website for sugar daddy arrangements. She is young and it seemed like a good idea. So she confided in me. Honestly, before posting the question here, I didn’t think it was such a terrible idea. It seemed like a open and honest arrangement …. I did not think of all the other variables that you all have listed.

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  157. I still don’t understand how pretty female with 4.0 doesn’t have full ride to state school? Did she bomb the ACT/SAT? I got a full ride to all our state unis 30 some years ago with just my SAT score.

    Doesn’t ant to go to state school? Tough shit.

    We’re always hiring pretty 18 yo girls at Whores and Ale. Send full body bikini pics (front and back views) and left, center, right face pics to our hiring manager.

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  158. Ame says:

    btw – telling her the truth when she’s in this mindset is likely to make you persona non grata. you have to be willing to take that risk to tell her the truth. be wise in how you share it … get the most ‘bang for your buck’ with your words. you need to tell her in such a way that she ‘sees’ it, and depending on her personality, this could be challenging. but these decisions she’s making now will make or break the rest of her life – and i’m not talking education and career path. i’m talking *her*, who she is and who she is not. taking the easy way out and selling her body and soul for that ‘elite’ college she ‘deserves’ because she’s smart and beautiful – or iq intelligent – cause this is NOT smart. it’s stupid. she obviously has an idealized, fantasized idea of what being a sugar baby is. and she obviously has no concept of the value of her beauty, iq, or reality. you’re in a unique position to take all this stuff you’re learning out here and help mold a young woman who has slipped through life so far without a clue. she is the very woman, ten, twenty, thirty years later these guys talk about.

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  159. Stephanie says:

    LOL Ame I love your passion.

    We’re still not sure if we want our daughter to go to college…. I’m glad I did (sometimes lol), and mine was paid for first by my parents and then grants and scholarships only. But when we got married we did loans unfortunately for my last two years. I shouldn’t have done them, my entire course load and books were covered but we used the loans for living expenses which was really dumb.

    We’re big on community colleges since the tuition is so manageable, but I do hope she finds someone before age 25, marries and starts having babies before 30. We’ll have to see 🙂

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  160. Ame says:

    Love – good for you for asking for advice out here. it can get harsh, but that’s only b/c it IS harsh. hopefully she’ll learn how STUPID people are … to encourage her to get a sugar daddy? those are people she does not need in her life or at the very least needs to give very little credence to. .

    there will be no end to stupid people giving stupid advice. these young women need older women who are willing to tell them the truth, who care enough to tell them the truth. over and over and over. because we’re forgetful, and we rearrange/manipulate what we think we want in our minds in endless ways to make them look good to ourselves.

    teach her how to look into the future with her choices – to ‘flesh it out’. if I do ‘this,’ what will it look like in five, ten, fifteen years? I do this with my daughters all.the.time. btw – my girls are 18 and 20.

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  161. Love says:

    Very smart thinking Ame. So true about how we manipulate ourselves just to achieve something short term.

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  162. Ame says:

    Stephanie – I’ve just seen and experienced too much.
    when my aspie girl began a new grade in public school we would go up to the school the week before and meet with the teachers/staff. I wanted them to know who I was and where I stood and what to expect. by ninth grade i’d been through enough public school bs to not care about being PC. i’d always smile and laugh but I started it out by telling them I am my daughter’s advocate and I am on her team, only. if there’s a dispute, I will take her side first and ask questions later (they were often just as glad to see me leave at the end of a school year as I was to leave them behind). anyway, when we went in the week before ninth grade to meet the sped teacher team at the high school and find out who her lead teacher was going to be, we got into a discussion about college … because college is THE ULTIMATE GOAL of ALL public education. teachers have to prove that what they’re teaching makes students college-ready. my daughter flat-out told these women that student loans are NOT an option, and those poor ladies were SHOCKED. shocked! they couldn’t believe it! those people are so programmed that college is EVERYTHING that they believe a student should do ANYTHING to get what they DESERVE. it was three weeks later I pulled her to homeschool her – best decision ever (had nothing to do with college).

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  163. earl says:

    Yeah benching 10 pound dumbbells and cropping out the guy lifting the chick doing pull ups in that picture…women are biologically stronger than men.

    I have yet to see a wimminz at the gym outbench or outsquat me…I’m sure there exists a few out there, but they aren’t common.

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  164. BV says:

    “What is an alpha widow? The parents do not know.”

    Are the parents pimping out their own daughter to save on college fees? This conversation properly belongs on Tor, if so.

    An alpha widow is a woman (not an 18 year-old child) who cannot forget her finest lover, and struggles to achieve intimacy with every subsequent man she meets. It’s a mainstream phenomenon, and affliction. Men do not suffer it.

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  165. Love says:

    Thanks BV for the definition. When you say men don’t suffer this affliction, do you mean men do not remember their best lover?
    Her parents do not know she’s thinking of the sugar daddy option. So how can they be pimping her?

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  166. earl says:

    ‘To be fair, others advised her to create an online account on a website for sugar daddy arrangements. She is young and it seemed like a good idea. So she confided in me.’

    Never underestimate how other women want to pull the beautiful ones down back in the crab bucket. The wimminz just can’t stand how they didn’t get those God given talents.

    I’m assuming women are giving this advice…I doubt men would say sugar daddy route unless they are the sugar daddy.

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  167. thedeti says:

    Love

    Men remember their best lovers. But they don’t get all tied up in knots and unable to move on with life because of them. Men don’t tend to blow up good relationships because of them.

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  168. earl says:

    ‘Fucking unbelieveable that “nice girls” are naive enough to do this!’

    That’s why the term is soft and gentle…’Sugar Daddy’.

    Calling her a whore or a prostitute or flat out saying the transaction is her sex for his money wouldn’t make the option sound that great.

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  169. Yoda says:

    The Pensacola, Florida branch of the Women’s March is banning the symbolic pink pussy hats to avoid offending transgender women and women of color.

    In a statement posted to the Pensacola Women’s March’s Facebook page, the group argues that the hats assume that all women have pink vaginas, which represents a “very concentrated and thus, exclusionary sect of feminism.”

    First, the hats are allegedly transphobic because they ignore transgender women who don’t have vaginas — otherwise known as men who identify as women but choose not to have transitional surgery.

    “The Pink P*ssy Hat reinforces the notion that woman = vagina and vagina = woman, and both of these are incorrect,” the group claims.

    Furthermore, the group considers the hats to be racist because they assume that all vaginas are pink, which is “white-focused and Eurocentric.”

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/10/pensacola-womens-march-bans-py-hats-because-theyre-transphobic/

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  170. Yoda says:

    The reason: The sentiment that the pink pussyhat excludes and is offensive to transgender women and gender nonbinary people who don’t have typical female genitalia and to women of color because their genitals are more likely to be brown than pink.

    “I personally won’t wear one because if it hurts even a few people’s feelings, then I don’t feel like it’s unifying,” said Phoebe Hopps, founder and president of Women’s March Michigan and organizer of anniversary marches Jan. 21 in Lansing and Marquette.

    https://www.freep.com/story/news/2018/01/10/pink-pussyhats-feminists-hats-womens-march/1013630001/

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  171. @Love

    Unstated in your comments is what this girl actually wants out of life. The feminist imperative is telling her to be a *Strong Independent Woman* but her biological imperative is to make babies with the most fit man she can get a commitment from.

    Given that prostitution has been seriously laid on the table as a solution to getting a college degree, I conclude that nobody is seriously counseling her to consider marriage to a man who can support her. That is a serious disservice to the young woman because her biological clock is already ticking. At age 30 the average woman only has about 3% to 5% of her eggs left. The “women don’t hit their sexual peak until their 30’s” garbage is actually an observation of the female body’s last attempt at conception because the egg supply is at its end. By age 40, only about 5% of women conceive children because the other 95% no longer have viable eggs.

    At 18 years old, she’s got a narrow window of attractiveness that will last for another 4 years, at which she will be at the height of her youth, beauty and fertility. If she wants to get a good husband now is the time when her value is at its highest.

    Now is the time for her to find a man in his early 30’s who spent his 20’s establishing himself, marry him and start cranking out his babies. But we both know that nobody gives this kind of advice any longer and the men she would most desire to marry look at marriage with a somewhat jaundiced eye, given the legal terrain that gives all advantages to the woman. However, if she can find a man who she is strongly attracted to (she won’t get it on a sugar daddy website) she will want to marry him. That’s her biological imperative.

    However, the nature of hypergamy is such that this girl (every girl) wants a man who is absolutely top shelf, a real alpha who is fit to rule over her and dominate her. The problem is that unless she’s spectacular (she isn’t or you would be asking for advice) she can’t get what she wants. Feminism steps in and says she should waste her youth, beauty and fertility becoming a Strong Independent Woman who has sex with anyone she wants until she winds up in her early thirties with a thousand-cock stare wondering where all the “good men” have gone.

    So, rather than becoming a prostitute, I suggest that she find a girlfriend or two with the same frame of mind and they should move in together and get used to living together. After they’ve straightened out their affairs, they can go husband hunting and offer a package deal. Two or three women working together could get the commitment of a man that none of them could get individually.

    Now, if that sounds like some really crazy advice, reflect on the fact that it would produce a marriage that reinforces good behavior and penalizes negative behavior, which results in much greater attraction and satisfaction all-around. Nagging, refusing to have sex and bitchy behavior won’t work because the husband can spend time with a different wife. With a monogamous marriage there is one marital relationship. With two wives there are three and with three wives there are six unique marital relationships that the husband has to manage. That requires he remain somewhat aloof and dominant, actively managing the relationships to see they’re all treated fairly. Women compete, but the wives can only compete for his attention by giving him what he wants, which is sweet, feminine, attractive, submissive and sexually available.

    The society we live in *will* create a social situation that provides a common enemy, which bonds the wives together and cements a strong friendship. The children get to grow up in a stable and well-run family that provides them with a much greater chance of future success. With multiple wage-earners, someone losing their job is not the crisis that it would be in a monogamous structure and a polygynous structure offer far more financial security for everyone involved.

    The truth is that the women get far more out of such a relationship than the man in terms of friendships and emotional support, help with housework and babies and any number of other issues. I’ve written about this repeatedly and a good explanation is found here, but I’ve never written about it from a woman’s point of view.

    If two or three women can agree on a man they’re all willing to share it means that he’s absolutely top-shelf as far as they’re concerned, they can’t do any better and there is no way any of them could get a commitment out of him on an individual basis. He gets all the sex he wants and variety as well as children. Interestingly, if done correctly, it’s a marriage that is basically immune to divorce and once there are children from all the woman, any woman who wants to leave is faced with the prospect that she doesn’t get half his assets and she won’t get custody of the children. That’s a strong incentive to stay and work things out.

    The structure of incentives is extremely important because the truly high-value men are the ones most likely to be MGTOW, spinning plates and refusing to marry. In addition, such a group of women cooperating to achieve such a goal practically guarantees that they aren’t psychopaths, sociopaths or cluster-B types. Women like that are predators who go after high-value men and are extremely dangerous. In fact, given the completely screwed up society, culture and legal system we have today, a polygynous marriage is a better option in any area one might name when it comes to marriage for both men and women.

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  172. SFC Ton says:

    Marriage is prostitution by another name

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  173. Love says:

    Thank you Artisinal. I admit I was surprised to read that you were promoting a polygamous relationship, but I agree, it can be a win win situation, if done correctly. Poly amorous relationships have become popular now a days yet I don’t think they have much of a high success rate. The females tend to be bisexual or experimenting which changes the serious dynamic of the relationship. Also, it is difficult to find an alpha man that has the ability to properly manage everyone. If he is not strong enough, he will be quickly overruled by one or all his women.
    It is true that women working together in a domestic setting is very effective. When my girlfriends and I rent a cabin/vacation rental, it is smooth sailing. We have enough groceries, meals are prepared for breakfast, lunch, dinner, everyone is fed, and we leave the place spotless.

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  174. Marriage is slavery by another name (for the man).

    @FB
    Despite ‘history’ teaching us that men come up trumps when it comes to lifting boxes, sawing down trees and winning pub fights all is not as it seems.

    The study by Proceedings of the National Academy of Scientists of the United States of America reveals that women are actually more likely to survive a life threatening crisis than men.

    Researchers came to this conclusion by comparing the death rates of men and women who were pitted against famines, epidemics and slavery.

    By the way, fellas, in case you get all angry and insecure, we’re talking biological strength. So don’t get all uppity about the role of women in WWI and WWII.

    WTF is “biological strength” supposed to mean? Do women carry more fat as a percentage of body weight? Yes. Do they typically do less strenuous work than the men in the referenced scenarios? Yes. Are they less likely to die in war by a factor of 10000-100000? Yes.
    Would the average woman get curb-stomped by the average man 100 out of 100 times. YES.

    Reading crap likes that makes me feel completely at ease with shit-posting anything I want to on my own site.

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  175. earl says:

    ‘By the way, fellas, in case you get all angry and insecure, we’re talking biological strength.’

    Yeah your emoting about what is actually the truth is anger and insecurity. Women can bench and squat more than you all the time. It doesn’t matter if you’ve never seen it or proved it everyday…that’s just your anger and insecurity coming out.

    That’s why these articles are junk.

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  176. Yoda says:

    Are they less likely to die in war by a factor of 10000-100000? Yes.

    Women suffer most in war Hillary says she does.

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  177. This chick didn’t get the memo or doesn’t give a shit about clack dresses. Either way, I’m not complaining.

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  178. earl says:

    She’s a future #metoo complainer.

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  179. @Yoda
    I’ll believe this country is actually turning around when I see Hillary’s head on a spike in front of the White House, and not a moment before that.

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  180. @Ame
    At Whores and Ale our direct sales personnel make 15% commission on all their sales. That’s right, 15%!!! Think of all the edumacation that money could buy.

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  181. RichardP says:

    @Love: “She has a 4.0 GPA and is interested in the medical route. I think she initially thought her parents were going to support her … They recently told her they don’t have the money. She has been accepted to several schools yet the one she wants – which aligns best with her career ambitions did not offer her a full ride scholarship.”

    That detail helps. “They recently told her they don’t have the money” implies a recent shock to the system. I get that. This is Charlie Brown, who did everything he was taught to do to win the game. He practiced, while everybody was out playing. It’s now the championship game. The score is tied. Charlie Brown can win the game by kicking a fieldgoal. He’s ready. He lines up and runs to kick the ball. He knows he has the accuracy, and can kick the distance. … and lucy pulls the ball away at the last minute.

    Discovering that something is not there that you were counting on can be devastating. And I get that she may grasp at anything that looks like it will help her keep on the track that she has set for herself in her mind. She needs a steady hand to help her sort through her options.

    No matter how much pontificating we do, in real life and on the web, this truth remains: we all have to do what we have to do to survive. When all of our support systems go down, and it’s either “do this” or your family starves, a lot of our moralizing gives way to pragmatism. That is how it has been since Cain sold his birthright for a bowl of soup – ’cause he thought he was gonna die otherwise. I get that a woman’s path for advancement is a much different path than the one a man travels. And I am not a woman that I should know the angst involved here, and the pressure involved to go with a sugar daddy. But I think it is useful to ask if that is the only way she can get to where she wants to go.

    That is why I asked “what is she actually after: the college experience or a career?”. If it is truely a career that she wants, you and others can help her start asking questions that will expose alternative paths to get where she wants to go (e.g., different ways to get the education she wants / needs or different ways to pay for college if that is a necessary step). By asking “what is she actually after”, I am hoping she can suss out a clearer picture. That is – we all have to do what we have to do to survive – and she has been dealt a whammy if she has been operating on the assumption that parents where going to pay for her next step.

    In more blunt terms, my question is “what does she actually have to do to survive”? If that question is carefully considered, she may discover that getting a sugar daddy is not required in order for her to survive. And flourish.

    In real life, we don’t get to keep what we can’t defend. She needs to set out on a path that is defensible (where she gets to keep what she acquires). A sugar daddy might allow that to happen. But the odds are that she will get one that creates too high a price to pay – as others upthread have talked about.

    If there exists a man willing to help her without expecting sex in return, have her structure the deal so that it goes through her dad or brother or uncle or other trusted male friend/pastor. If the man willing to help is genuine in his desire, he won’t mind the flow of funds getting to her in this manner. If he objects … well, she will know better what she is in for if she pursues his money.

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  182. Yoda says:

    Know this I did not

    University of New Brunswick Professor Matthew A. Sears argues in a recent op-ed for the Washington Post that social justice warriors are the “true defenders of free speech.”

    http://www.breitbart.com/education/2018/01/11/washpo-social-justice-warriors-are-the-true-defenders-of-free-speech/

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  183. Last opinion on this sugar baby thing.

    She thinks she is going to get richard geer doing a pretty woman on her.

    Then reality hits when its an old guy like Bernie Sanders or Dave Thomas (the Wendys guy) naked on top of her plowing away. Yup those are the old guys who pay way above street hooker rates for “the nice girls.”

    Did I make you throw up in your mouth a little thinking of the sweetie being plowed by the wrinkly old man??

    FUCKING GOOD!!

    Hold that image and relate it to her when she won’t listen and thinks your being closed minded or a prude.

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  184. earl says:

    Yeah if she thinks she’ll get some dreamboat…she doesn’t know the type of guys who pay for that sort of thing.

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  185. Yoda says:

    An idea he has

    A crazed man jumped onto the subway tracks and threatened to kill himself — all while ranting for “equality” and “social justice,” a witness said.

    https://nypost.com/2018/01/11/crazed-man-jumps-on-subway-tracks-for-social-justice/

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  186. earl says:

    ‘The unidentified man was holding a bottle of vodka when he started yelling and jumped onto the D- and B-line tracks around 1:30 p.m. at the 42nd Street/Bryant Park station on Wednesday, said Brooklyn-based photojournalist Eli Wohl, who captured the scene on film.’

    You have to be drunk to understand equality and social justice.

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  187. I can’t think of any school or any degree or frankly anything that would be worth me plowing Theresa May even once let alone at least Monthly for Four Years.

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  188. Yoda says:

    Angela Merkel more your style she is?

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  189. Mean, mean sarcastic Master, the Yoda is.

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  190. Yoda says:

    Hillary a possibility she could be

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  191. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    Cruel you are.
    Bear laughing he is.

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  192. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    A bad idea the sugar daddy thing was. To begin with, there are four women to every man on the site. I think that whoever suggested this, had little concern for the person who it was to benefit.

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  193. earl says:

    Theresa May always looks like she just finished eating children she lured into her gingerbread house.

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  194. For all you heliophobes!

    #checkyourfixedwingprivalege

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  195. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Fixed wing privilege?

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  196. Yoda says:

    I think Bill mind Hillary being let loose not

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  197. honeycomb says:

    mgtowhorseman said ..

    For all you heliophobes!

    #checkyourfixedwingprivalege

    LOL ..

    I have 4 ATP’s (Airline Transport Pilot Certificates) in Fixed Wing .. and 1 Commercial Certicate in another (aka glider .. still fixed wing ..

    I guess my helo-phobia privilege .. 😂

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  198. honeycomb says:

    I guess I should check my helo-phobia privilege ..

    lol .. proof reading isn’t my strongest skill .. 😉

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  199. […] honeycomb on Blowing It Big Time […]

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  200. SFC Ton says:

    RP, I don’t have any qualms about Loves friend doing the sugar baby deal. It’s a time tested taticitc and the hooker john dynamic is the most honest male-female relationship around

    I question the feasibility of it. Even if she did sugar daddies. Like I said most dudes I know with the disposable loot to fund med school don’t have problems getting laid. They get to be pretty selective in who they bang and they get to rotate chicks pretty much on demand. She would have to find the male version of a unicorn. Or juggle multiple. Juggling multiple women when you don’t really give a fuck if they find out is a fairly complex and time consuming operation

    I wonder about the cost to the girl herself. Most chicks are way mercenary, but more in a small scale, casual, non deliberate way. How many chicks havent gone out “dancing” when they were flat broke because they new the door man would wave rhe cover charge, guys would buy the, drinks and nachos etc

    As I understand it, Alaska will fund med school if you promise to go serve their really remote communities for a handful of years. And doctoring seems easy to small step your way into it.

    RN at the local community college; then step up to physician asstaint, then jump to full blown doctor. Or so,e such.

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  201. SFC Ton says:

    I would do whatever it takes to get close to Merkel or Hillary

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  202. @ Ton
    I was actually within 10-15 feet of Hillary by random chance back when Bill was running for re-election. I was at an bookstore in Louisville, which was part of small local chain, and before we had any B&N or Books-a-Million type outlets, and it was just before closing on a weeknight. I was one of maybe three customers in the place. I didn’t find anything I wanted to buy and was walking back to the front exit when I saw a group of 8-10 people, who mostly seemed to be hippy-type employees up at the register. At the center of the group was Hillary, and then I noticed a couple of what I guessed were secret service types on the outskirts of the group. She actually made eye contact with me as I was passing, but I just walked out the door.

    I couldn’t figure out why she was there to talk to < 10 people. But, hell maybe the owners could only scrape that many together to show up.

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