Over at RPG’s, RichardP states,
I read an article around the time that Ruth Bader Ginsburg was seated on the U.S. Supreme Court. The general theme was about her introversion and how she would likely be attacked by women. There was a statement that I wrote down but can’t find at the moment – something to the effect that men’s basic instinct is to xxx (don’t remember); women’s basic instinct is to punish.
That really grabbed me, because I instantly recognized the truth in that statement based on my experience with life up to that point.
So, that “instinct is to punish” quote is now joined by Johntheother’s recommendation that men should avoid women .
An aha moment of sorts. Previously, I’ve more or less agreed with the observations made throughout the manosphere about why Eve needs to be “ruled over” by Adam, as God said she would be. But this thought has just occurred to me:
Women are in the ascendancy, in college, in business, etc. Social media has given their voice a platform like they’ve never before had in history. And what do they do with this platform? Encourage the minorities they champion? Teach them to think carefully, rigorously, and logically? Be fair and impartial in determining truth and meting out justice? Join with other like-minded women to start technology and manufacturing companies from the ground up? Praise the men who gave them a hand up on the way up? Or the men who create the labor-saving devices that give us all the idle time so we can attend college (or not)? Or the who enable her sewage and garbage to be funneled far from her ever-so-sensitive nose?
Maybe some do, somewhere. (We know who those women are around here)
But all I see mostly is them grabbing the platform to “out” men and “punish” them by humiliating them. Everywhere. And all the time. Because of the way the men made them feel.
Gives me a new understanding of why not to let most women not take the platform. Seems they are mostly only interested in informing the world that they feel bad when they do. In addition to the turmoil generated by them stirring the pot, their time on the platform takes time away from focusing on other issues of importance to everybody – like raising money (from where) to rebuild (by whom) roads and bridges and dams and power plants and other things essential to the modern way of living. Women could be using their newly-established platform to raise their voices in support of the general well-being of all. Where are those women’s voices?
This is not meant to diminish the impact of genuine sexual assault when it occurs. I agree that is horrible. But those interested in justice, rather than grandstanding and punishing, are those who take action in an appropriate time frame and in the proper venue when they have been sexually assaulted. Those who could have, and didn’t, carry the burden of knowing they let a genuine menace to other women keep on keeping on, when they maybe could have stopped him by raising their voice in a timely manner and through the proper channels. I wonder if that thought has ever occurred to them – those who are only now protesting, publicly, over something they claimed happened decades ago. Because they respond to his call to come to his bedroom. ?????
Yes, now that one mentions it, women do seem to live to punish (though they can reward also). This is different than fellas, who approach interpersonal dynamics differently. Men operate as teams with leaders in opposition to other teams, with sometimes the members of the teams changing. As a result, men evaluate if others should be guided down the better path, ignored because they are not relevant at this time (but may be in the future), or opposed (leaving many choices in manner). Underlying all of this (at least in times past) was the possibility that things could get violent, with decisions made based on calculations of such.
Women on the other hand have the herd (and sub-herds), with one being on the inside or outside. Those not in the herd are punished. This, as mentioned by RichardP does seem to be the default behavior of many women. Notice how many seem to go out of their way to punish their ex-husbands. Naturally enough, men notice this, but in reality they punish those who are in their out-group. In the olden days, the herd and its definition was greatly influenced by the Evil Patriarchy. This was mostly a good thing, as it get the situation under control. With modern semi-feral women, this situation is rather depressing; with women women punishing men, each other and pretty much everybody else with their unrestrained behavior. This is not sugar and spice and everything nice. Still, it feels good to them (at least in the short run), is naturally what they do, and men still supplicate and follow because they want to get into women’s favor (the supplicating beta orbiter cliche).
Short answer — in the modern world, beware of punishing women.