No Help From Academia


From here,

Meet Scott Yenor.

Yenor is a mild-mannered, bald, bespectacled professor of political science at Boise State University, a college known more for its blue football field and run-and-gun offense than for its history of philosophical debate. Yenor’s intellectual credentials are spotless: He has never received complaints from students or faculty about his classes or his papers. He’s a teacher and a thinker by trade, fully tenured.

But Yenor, you see, is also the devil.

What did he do to earn this?  Perhaps he suggested that the blue turf that the Boise State plays is rather silly.

That is not the case.  Perhaps denigrating the turf color is forgivable, but what he did do is apparently not.

At least, that’s the new public perception of Yenor at at Boise State. That’s because Yenor published a report in 2016 with the Heritage Foundation titled, Sex, Gender, and the Origins of the Culture War. The central thesis of the piece was simple and rather uncontroversial in conservative circles: that radical feminism’s central argument decrying gender boundaries between the sexes as entirely socially constructed has led directly to transgenderism’s attacks on gender itself as a social construct. As a philosophical matter, this progression is self-evident.

Academics do research and publish stuff.  That is what they are paid to do.  Let us see what the reaction was.

That’s when the trouble began.

Leftist students took note of Yenor’s perspective. And they seethed.

Actually, they did more than seethe: they complained, they demanded that the piece be taken down, and they insisted that Yenor had personally insulted them. All of this prompted the pusillanimous dean of the school, Corey Cook, to half-heartedly defend Yenor’s right to publish.

And so a knight arose to challenge Yenor’s nefarious, patriarchal dragon: Francisco Salinas, a man with the Orwellian title “Director of Student Diversity and Inclusion.”

Salinas believes that diversity and inclusion do not include perspectives disapproved by Francisco Salinas. Thus, he took up his fiery pen and wrote a post on the school’s website dramatically titled “Connecting The Dots.” Salinas explained that the Yenor controversy had preceded white supremacist rally and murder in Charlottesville, Virginia by a day. This was not, Salinas concluded, a coincidence. “Their proximity in my attention,” Salinas wrote, “is no accident.”

I think that you get the idea.  This is not the first time that this type of outcry happened. It won’t be the last.

Academia is supposed to do research and publish the results.  They are supposed to operate in pursuit of knowledge, irrespective of the current political influences.  This is much of what the term academic freedom is about; that is, research can take a path toward unpopular areas with the full protection of the university.  It goes where results lead it.

In reality, here is how it works: when the expected results will not popular with liberals, it is best not to even start down that research path.  There is grant money, possible future promotions, and general peace of mind (i.e. not being harassed) at stake.    In reality, there really is no academic freedom. It is really an Orwellian sham.

There are many research topics where the results would be very much of interest to the manosphere.  Not only that, they would be legitimate research topics based on what academia says that it is supposed to do.  Research on them will never start.  This all should be a tremendous embarrassment to academia, but it is not.  I wonder how many are self-aware enough to notice it.  They are, after all, supposed to be the intelligent ones.

Deti:

No one is ever going to undertake actual, real, scientific research on this. Because when they do, know what they find out?

–women are sexually attracted to masculine, confident, badass douchebag assholes who act like jerks to them

–women are NOT sexually attracted to kind, good, decent, friendly, affable men

–women find only about 20% of men sexually attractive (the OK Cupid survey)

–men who refuse to put up with bullshit from women and set down very clear boundaries for her behavior do better in all aspects of life, including sexually, than men who are the “nice” men women say they want

–biology and genetics plays a much, much bigger role in forming and shaping who we are than anyone wants to admit

–men and women are fundamentally different in their personalities, the way they think and feel, the way they respond to various situations in their lives, and the way they process external information

No one wants to admit this. I’ve seen what happens when women are confronted with these clearly observable (but not replicated in a double blind random controlled peer reviewed “study”) – they run screaming from the room. Because most women don’t have the courage to face the truth.

 

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129 comments on “No Help From Academia
  1. Farm Boy says:

    While he has received withering personal attacks over his research, Yenor said that few have engaged with the ideas or have seriously attempted to refute his arguments.
    Yenor said the personal attacks don’t bother him, but he worries about the long-term impact on people worried that their views will not be argued with, but simply attacked on campus.

    “That’s been one of the most disappointing things,” Yenor said. “Everyone in academia could live with having a debate about ideas, but a debate has to start with an understanding what the other person is arguing.”

    “It strikes me that there has really been, first of all, no effort to first understand what I’m arguing, and second of all, to get anywhere beyond name-calling and labeling,” Yenor said.

    http://www.intellectualtakeout.org/article/college-professor-under-siege-challenging-transgender-orthodoxy

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  2. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Farm Boy,
    I wonder what would happen if Camille Paglia’s wish to see Women’s and Gender Studies departments lose their funding was real? There may be fewer objections to research that is less conforming to political correctness.

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  3. Yoda says:

    A “chilling effect” this all has

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  4. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    On a tangent to my previous comment, about funding, legislators may be feminism’s next target. All that cash in grants and subsidies may be a temptation. It is odd that it looks like feminists are going to end up blowing the whistle on their allies. While the article does not name the offender, there can be little doubt that they will be produced in good time. Still, feminists are going to bite the hand that feeds them.
    So Camille Paglia may get her wish.
    http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/19/us/california-legislature-sexual-harassment-allegations/index.html

    “A chilling effect this all has.”
    I think it is meant to. Like living under a totalitarian regime.

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  5. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    On a lighter note,

    [Paul Joseph Watson this is – Yoda]

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  6. SFC Ton says:

    Academia is an enemy. Not the enemy but an enemy none the less.

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  7. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    Your meme makes a good case for my theory that feminists are going to take down their allies. I think that all those present are pro feminist.

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  8. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Extreme Molly bait. This has to be the most special Porsche that I have ever heard of.

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  9. mega says:

    TON: “You post a lot for a guy who keeps promising to never post here again”

    Yeah. Guess once in 3 weeks is a lot … but frankly didn’t miss it. And you still don’t know why I went off on you. But you got the ban-hammer, censor police to keep you safe, so good for you. Its not good to pick a fight when the fight ain’t fair … so guess I learned a lesson here. Don’t take a knife when the other dude’s got a gun, lol. Not like I wanted a fight or anything … was just defending myself which all dudes got a right to do. But whatever. Ton … hope you’re happy you won. Good luck with whatever comes your way. Maybe if you woulda saw my post you might have understood what was going down when it started to go bad … you may not have agreed with it, but at least understood where I was coming from … so we’d both be on the same page anyway. Agree to disagree ? Maybe. Maybe not. Whatever.

    SPAWNY: “You take a shit on the atmosphere of my blog and then expect me to expedite its freeing from the spam filter that you yourself triggered? Just after I asked people to chill? You see where I’m going with this, right?”

    SG … assuming that you were directing that at me. I took a shit on this blog just now because I found out 3 weeks ago you banned my post for no reason. My post about the Ton situation that had nothing to do with you or this blog so … save your self righteous justification for censoring some people and not others … essentially picking sides in a fight. Ban any of Ton’s posts in the middle of our spat ????

    SG: “You see where I’m going with this, right?”

    Yup .. I get it … toe the line. Comply with the thought police. Or get censored or even banned. Not going down without a fight. So yeah, I just got banned for showing what a dick you are, don’t care if its your blog or not. A dude is a dick … then he’s a dick. Don’t like being called a dick on your own blog … then its pretty simple really … don’t be a dick. I made it 3 weeks, I’ll save you the ban and will make it a perm-ban. Wisdom for SG to learn … when two dudes are dooking it out … don’t rig it and pick sides. The loser gonna be pissed … the winner feels like a fag cause he knows the game was rigged and even though he won … it wasn’t a fair fight. And the dick who picked sides and rigged the game … he gets called a dick. Sometimes even to his own face. Spawny … you’re a dick. So, yeah, its kinda of no-win for everyone.Lesson: spat going on … let the feathers fly.

    Ton … wanna stab me in the back again, like the last time you kicked me in the nuts when you thought I wasn’t looking … have at it man … if it makes you feel like a tuff dude, then do it … cause you got the thought police on your side now, Say whatever you want …. I can’t defend myself anyway … do it man … fuck me up the ass when nobody looking …

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  10. RichardP says:

    Suppose somebody threw some punches and nobody responded.

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  11. Spawny Get says:

    Hands up whoever is shocked by this
    http://yournewswire.com/hillary-clinton-parkinsons-disease/
    Anyone? Bueller?

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  12. Spawny Get says:

    SG … assuming that you were directing that at me. I took a shit on this blog just now because I found out 3 weeks ago you banned my post for no reason. My post about the Ton situation that had nothing to do with you or this blog so … save your self righteous justification for censoring some people and not others … essentially picking sides in a fight. Ban any of Ton’s posts in the middle of our spat ????

    No, your comment got caught in the spam trap. I assume that it was the number of links. I didn’t care to fish it out.

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  13. Spawny Get says:

    Did I miss a comment from Ton where he lost it? Honest question, I didn’t bother reading them all. From what I saw Ton played it cool in tone. If I missed one, my bad. If I didn’t? I’m not fussed about disagreement just don’t be a tit about it. And frankly, you were being a tit about it.

    Shame because I knew Danny’s blog for a few years but just as a casual place to peek in on. I knew about the meetup debacle. I gather that the reality was a little different from the character on the blog. Shame. Certainly seemed to have his demons whether or not he acquired them in combat. I’d have been interested in a catch up story. I hope he’s recovering from whatever it was.

    I guess the message is; Not interested in the argument matey. Not keen to ban anyone either. I’d have no problem with you making this your happy-place but there are probably better places to take out a bad mood. Your call.

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  14. Spawny Get says:

    Yoda, was never a huge fan. Back when I was a kid we had 3 tv channels to chose from (and no VCR) so I did watch some episodes…mehh. But the stuff that he mentions in that video regarding testosterone etc? Fuck off. Get bent. Etc.

    I wouldn’t care that the latest Dr was played by a woman except for the fact that the encroachment via elbows of wimminz into male spaces is getting very tedious indeed. WRE after all (exceptions exist 😉 ). But worse than that, they’ve chosen a fembot wimminz to do it…Yawn. According to Sargon her acceptance speech had the honour of taking over such an iconic character as Dr Who was merely the third item after being a femerroid and being a wimminz. I DO NOT CARE. Are you going to make a decent fist of it? I reckon not.

    Given the crappy mangina show-runner’s previous scripts (not from watching the episodes) I expect fembot dogma driving a tedious SJW style morality tale of diverse characters but little to no story and any straight honky to be the bad guy.

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  15. Spawny Get says:

    And in other sci-fi news…
    Michael Burnham (the black woman playing the lead STD, I mean, in STD) has previously been described as the best Starfleet Orifice ever. By the end of episode six we also know that she was the equal of the best of the Vulcans evah! Yugo Gurl!

    So, Mary Jane re-confirmed. The problem being that she’s relentless doing stoopid shite. Just like every other character in the series.

    From eppysode 5: Super competent kick-arse better than any-mere-man wimmin security officer? Drop the containment field on an alien killing machine immune to phaser fire while armed only with a phaser, without even checking if the attempt to sedate the creature worked…deaded.

    Ongoing: Unlikeable characters. How many?

    Why am I still watching? Feck-all else on telly and it’s free on Netflix that I already have. And it’s kind of an unfolding horror story.

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  16. Stephanie says:

    “Shame because I knew Danny’s blog for a few years but just as a casual place to peek in on. I knew about the meetup debacle. I gather that the reality was a little different from the character on the blog. Shame. Certainly seemed to have his demons whether or not he acquired them in combat. I’d have been interested in a catch up story. I hope he’s recovering from whatever it was.”

    Wow I must have missed something somewhere…. ? Danny’s blog? As in the Danny504 blog?? I still check in on him sometimes, too, and pray for him. I was really sad to see the crap he’d been going through recently.

    Why did you bring him up SG? I must have missed whatever made you reference him…

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  17. Spawny Get says:

    It was the comment that caught in the spam trap.

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  18. Yoda says:

    In an interview with The Sunday Times, singer Sam Smith says that he considers himself gender non-binary. Now, normal people probably don’t know what that is, but it basically means that he refuses to choose between being a man or a woman. Hence the “non-binary.” It’s neither either/or, it’s “and.”

    To prove that he’s “non-binary,” Smith points out that he loves him some high heels and fur coats

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/singer-sam-smith-identifies-gender-non-binary-feel-just-much-woman-man/

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  19. I wonder what the plan was for after Hillary was elected. Just be as corrupt as possible for as long as possible, then have Pedoface Kaine move up?

    Watched a few of the Billy Piper Who episodes because Billy Piper, but quickly lost interest. What’s her name new-Who looks like Data from TNG without the greenish makeup so I think your fembot comparison spot-on.

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  20. Yoda says:

    Not so impressed with the Billie Piper episodes I was.
    Too much Moxie with too little looks she had.

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  21. Yoda says:

    Data from TNG without the greenish makeup

    Like greenish makeup you do not?

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  22. Yoda says:

    Pedoface Kaine

    Best name for him ever seen I have

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  23. Spawny Get says:

    Couldn’t remember who illary’s running mate was till you said. Can’t help but think that many voters would have had their subconscious note who would be pres after the clearly ill illary donned a wooden overcoat. I wonder how many more votes she lost due to that?

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  24. It’s really sad that colleges have become groupthink machines rather than being a place that teaches critical thinking. All this stuff was just starting when I graduated college in the early 1990s. I am glad I didn’t go during this era.

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  25. @Yoda But you don’t wear makeup, right?

    I do like green-ish hair when they can get it right.

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  26. Whereas this girl has borderline personality disorder written all over her:

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  27. Recently I have been seeing young women who are coloring their hair grey. It looks awful imho. I hope it goes out of style quickly!

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  28. Yoda says:

    Looks like a Bat-Villain Kaine does.
    Turned to evil when killed his brother Abel he did

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  29. If he just put the clown white on his face he’s Pennywise’s naughty little brother.

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  30. Mr. Roboto says:

    @SFC Ton

    “Academia is an enemy. Not the enemy but an enemy none the less.”

    You are an idiot, Academia is not the enemy itself, the enemy are SJW´s who cucked and control Academia.

    @FarmBoy

    “There are many research topics where the results would be very much of interest to the manosphere.”

    Agreed, indeed if you search for papers published before Academia was cucked by SJW´s you can find tons of papers from the 70´s and 80´s that confirm many Manosphere observations about Game, Alpha dominance, Alpha Widowhood, etc.

    Here is an example:

    Click to access sadalla-etal-1987.pdf

    [First comment for this fella it was.
    In the spam filter it would be.
    Hopefully happen again it will not]

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  31. Yoda says:

    Progressives have taken their Trump derangement syndrome to a whole new level…

    Thousands of anguished libs in Boston and Philadelphia will be taking part in scream fests on Nov. 8 to commemorate the anniversary of Donald Trump’s election. Liberals in other cities around the country are likely to step up to the crazy plate as well as the big day draws near.

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/anguished-liberals-plan-scream-helplessly-sky-anniversary-trump-election/

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  32. Yoda says:

    Gutierrez worries that algebra and geometry perpetuate privilege because “emphasizing terms like Pythagorean theorem and pi” give the impression that math “was largely developed by Greeks and other Europeans.”

    https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=10005

    Also Gauss, Euler, Newton, Leibniz, Laplace, Pascal, Descartes, Fermat etc. there would be

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  33. Yoda says:

    Recently I have been seeing young women who are coloring their hair grey.

    Perhaps trying to attract feral cats they are

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  34. Yoda says:

    PARLIAMENT PERVS

    By Natasha Clark
    22nd October 2017, 1:38 pmUpdated: 23rd October 2017, 5:37 pm

    THE EUROPEAN Parliament has been accused of being a “hotbed of sexual harassment” after a string of MEPs accused politicians of inappropriate behaviour.

    After the Harvey Weinstein scandal engulfed Hollywood last week, now politicians in Brussels say there is a problem at the heart of the European Union too.

    More than a dozen women accused politicians of groping, stalking, harassment, and treating them like meat, a Sunday Times investigation revealed.

    One assistant revealed that a senior MEP masturbated in front of a young assistant, and another aide told of how they were groped.

    And one said how a leading German MEP “stalked her” in meetings and made repeated advances towards her.

    She said that the parliament is “an absolute hotbed of harassment”, because MEPs are “not accountable to anyone”.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4741412/eu-parliament-revealed-as-hotbed-of-sexual-harassment-after-women-accuse-politicians-of-indecent-exposure-stalking-and-being-treated-like-meat/

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  35. Spawny Get says:

    The start of this will probably make you believe that the discussion will lead nowhere as they both appear rational. Stick with it because Stef, quite politely, rips the post modernist a new one.

    Really enjoyed it.

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  36. Spawny Get says:

    I remember hearing somewhere long ago that there was a huge correlation between wanting power (via politics / religion / dictatorship) and being a shag-nasty sex-o-holic. There appears to be a link in their (disgusting) minds between being in charge and ruling over people.

    I don’t admire politicians, I merely recognise that somebody has to do the fecking job and some are better than others.

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  37. Spawny Get says:

    p.s. how this manifests in wimminz politicians I’m not yet sure. Speculation please.

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  38. Spawny Get says:

    p.p.s. basically explain illary. Unless you think that she’s just a disgusting thief with limitless greed that merely sees politics as the best path for her to get da moniez.

    p.p.p.s. I understand that the evidence may definitely lead to that explanation.

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  39. Re females -> Women Ruin Everything
    Re: female politicians -> Women Ruin Everything for Everyone

    I’m much more interested in speculation on why i find women in well-fitting jeans much more attractive than women wearing yoga pants… Can’t quite put my finger on it.

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  40. Yoda says:

    Interested in heads you should be

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  41. I have many interests. Gardening, for example:

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  42. George Liquor American says:

    Jeans hide the cellulite on the back of their legs whereas yoga pants makes it visible for everyone.

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  43. SFC Ton says:

    LOL you must be an academic ie an enemy because us idiots are smart enough to know acdmeics are an enemy when a college professor says all I want for Christmas is White genocide and he doesn’t get condemned by other college professors, not to mention gets to keep his job and what not

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  44. SFC Ton says:

    I wonder what the plan was for after Hillary was elected. Just be as corrupt as possible for as long as possible, then have Pedoface Kaine move up?
    ………

    Sign me up for that shit

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  45. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I read the link about sexual harassment in the EU Parliament. What is conspicuously absent is complaints lodged with the police. It is becoming a good test for veracity in these matters.
    TFM, the youtuber, suggested that there are going to be a lot of scandals of this nature connected to legislators. It does seem a natural. They have resources and it would not surprise me if feminists offered sexual favors for the largesse of the public purse. As widespread as the #metoo campaign has been, it will probably grow to include all bodies of government, right down to municipalities. Those who escape will likely be those who were not tempted by offers of sexual favors. In the end, the feminist allies will get it.

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  46. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    What was the plan after Hillary was elected? I don’t think they were thinking that far ahead. Getting someone elected President with a mental handicap that great Is not the wisest path to take.

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  47. Farm Boy says:

    Cosmopolitan, the magazine most famous for giving bizarre sex tips that are more creepy than romantic, is desperate to reclaim the social justice territory it lost to such intellectual publications as Teen Vogue, and now wants its readers to know that it’s no longer acceptable to dress your children up as multicultural cartoon characters.

    Dressing your daughter as the young female character from Disney’s Polynesian tale, Moana, is both “racially insensitive” and an example of “cultural appropriation,” because your child is most likely white, and Moana is a Pacific Islander.

    http://www.dailywire.com/news/22666/sorry-cosmopolitan-dressing-moana-halloween-isnt-emily-zanotti

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  48. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Farm Boy,
    I hadn’t known about how powerful women’s magazines were among teen girls. I can see the interest on the part of advertisers for setting lifetime patterns. Still, they are overlooking how fickle girls can be.
    In all of this, my guess is that boys are being ignored. That may prove to be a blessing.

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  49. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    In a previous video, Johtheother talked about how Vancouver feminists had taken to publishing lists on social media of offending men. While it may be coincidence, he reported that one local man had committed suicide.While this will sound like overkill, Canadian feminists are pretty extreme.

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  50. Spawny Get says:

    I like the story about when in WWII they were making the plan to evacuate the nobs, Winston Churchill said he would stay because ‘you could always take one of the bastards with you’. When you get down to it, there’s a beserker in a lot of people who have just had enough. When it all comes down there may not be enough popcorn in the world.

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  51. mgtowhorseman says:

    Goodbye my friends.

    See my EPIC fucking rant over at Blooms on this.

    https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/masculinity-is-toxic-men-dont-have-to-be/article36703460/

    I couldn’t even get past the headlines.

    I am just beyond caring, the last fuck for society at large has been given.

    Just Done.

    Going to pick up a book, sit on the couch with my last good (but flawed) woman (as I am) and let the world pass me by for the winter. I’ll watch the Space from afar.

    Peace My Friends.

    Toodles.

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  52. Spawny Get says:

    Drop in whenever, mate. I understand completely in that UK politics regarding BREXIT is currently boiling my piss. This is my refuge of sanity. Here. This blog. It’s why the tone matters even though blowing off steam is understood.

    Don’t be a stranger, be lucky.

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  53. Spawny Get says:

    This is part of tonight’s NewsNight show reading out a statement by one of the gang photographed with Trump by the elevator. A friend of Nigel. NewsNight is the BBC premiere serious news show. Or was before they abandoned journalism and openly embraced their bigotry. The whole of the BBC that is. Cuntz.

    LOL

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  54. Farm Boy says:

    Horseman,

    Commenting here is better than watching hockey

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  55. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Horseman,
    You are already missed. I did read that link and wrote a follow on comment at Bloom’s. What makes that article all the more objectionable is that the author is a wife and mother.

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  56. Spawny Get says:

    A macho mate of mine was having a tattoo of an indian on his back and halfway through he said to the tattooist ‘don’t forget his tomahawk.’ The tattooist said ‘give me a chance mate I haven’t finished his turban yet’

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  57. mgtowhorseman says:

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  58. RichardP says:

    Frankly my dear I don’t give a damn.

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  59. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Farm Boy,
    That chart points out that women are more skeptical of accusations than men are. It has always been that way. What gets to me is that feminists are using this as a bludgeon on all men, especially the ones that would never consider it. Dr. Helen has something to say about this. On her site is a link to a fourteen minute podcast.
    https://pjmedia.com/drhelen/harvey-weinstein-myth-toxic-masculinity/

    I don’t think that I will ever forget the police officer who got to interview the rape accusers. When I asked about the veracity of the accusers, she said, “It’s all bullshit.”
    With all these women coming forward, it may boil down to Harvey never seeing one day in court.

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  60. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Farm Boy,
    It is odd that our opponents would support a system of government that collapsed so long ago due to its fundamental flaws. Perhaps they have sen this a few too many times?

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  61. Stephanie says:

    “What makes that article all the more objectionable is that the author is a wife and mother.”

    ^ Yea Fuzzie, what I don’t understand is why a lot of these women don’t seem to understand what they look like when they’re running their men (or men in general like that author) down? Where’s the self-awareness? I know we each have blind spots, but it gets bewildering, ESPECIALLY seeing it in real life!

    Story time:

    So I happened to see that another wife was complaining extremely bitterly about her husband last January, two weeks before he was going to take a test to promote. She said she was about to divorce him – she was serious, too, some of the ladies checked just to make sure.

    It’s common for our husbands to take literally a year to study before they test to promote each time, and I’ve heard it gets hard, but his success largely depends on the wife’s ability to just be kind, nice to him, and make the most of the time they get together as a family, but also ensure he has that time to really study without constant interruption. He wasn’t being mean or anything, he just wasn’t helping her as much as she wanted… they were older (40’s) and had had 3 kids kind of back to back because they had waited so long to have kids.

    This wife was SO CLOSE to having it be over – only 2 more weeks!!! A lot of the women didn’t understand (I stayed out of it… just quietly observed), quite a few of them were in the same boat but seemed to be handling it much better. Even some of the good ladies in the group tried to get her to think about how he’ll be **safer** and how it would **bring in more money – lots more** – but it wasn’t looking good as they couldn’t convince her it’d be ok eventually.

    ***

    Fast forward to present… she recently was bragging about him updating her badge necklace to his new promoted badge and number. My husband also saw all this and since I tell him everything, he knew the backstory and he flat out said that guy should have divorced HER back then. He said this wife doesn’t “deserve” to enjoy his promotion or the new necklace.

    Hopefully she was just going through “phase,” but I really think this is why a lot of the higher ups got rid of their first wives and have women sometimes 20 years younger (and MUCH nicer – I like them lol!!!).

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  62. Stephanie says:

    Should probably add, I think it’s good to be happy when your husband promotes and want to brag about his success. But you’d hope that the bragging was from real pride in your husband’s accomplishment – not because now he got you an updated status symbol (yes I have one too, and I adore it) or because he’s making more $$$.

    You want a wife to have pride in her HUSBAND himself and what he’s done or does. Not what he can get you materialistically.

    I don’t know… it’s really interesting to think about it this way — you can either support him and get through the hard stuff NOW, or you can make his life (and yours and your childrens’) miserable by being miserable, and possibly end it all in a frivorce, or push him to the point of having him cheat on you… and then have WATCH a younger, sexier, 2nd wife enjoy a better life with your husband than you had because you were his wife during his “hard times.”

    More money (GOES TO 2ND WIFE), better days off (GOES TO 2ND WIFE), better safety = less stress on everyone (GOES TO 2ND WIFE), better status symbol of achieving promotions (GOES TO 2ND WIFE), having more clout politically in social circles (GOES TO 2ND WIFE).

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  63. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Stephanie,
    It sounds like she has trouble with the concept of being a team. That she saw her status raised with his promotion also reflects wrong thinking. It should be a warning to women to see senior officers get dumped who turn around and marry women twenty years younger.

    I don’t know why married women engage in feminist men bashing. You would think they would see it as contrary to their interest. Too many Gender Studi8es courses in college? Too much daytime talk show? Too many women’s magazines?

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  64. Stephanie says:

    “That she saw her status raised with his promotion also reflects wrong thinking.”

    It really did bother me at a gut-level discernment… and I told you my husband’s response being that the man should have divorced her back then so she wouldn’t have enjoyed being his wife anymore (very red pill in my opinion).

    ….

    I’m lucky I’m still really close with my mom, and when I talked with her today I brought this example up, just to see what she would say.

    She’s just as “red pill” in her thinking as she was when I was growing up, and she said, “Hopefully she’s changed, or that woman’s going to end up divorced!!!”

    I love her! I seriously learned so much from that woman!

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  65. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Stephanie,
    I hadn’t thought of that about the second wife. All that I have heard is that they have to deal with the stereotypical vindictive ex-wife. You make a good point and all that the original wife has to to to get those things you have outlined is be supportive. It’s so simple.

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  66. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Stephanie,
    What you had to say reminded me so much about what military wives experienced between WWI and WWII. Promotion was very slow and most had to stay at it a long time to get their old wartime rank back. The same was true for most of the times between wars in the military. John J. Pershing was a captain for a very long time.

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  67. Stephanie says:

    “All that I have heard is that they have to deal with the stereotypical vindictive ex-wife. ”

    Yea I can’t even imagine what it would be like with a first wife hating you like that. Wow!!! I’m sure some are lucky and the ex isn’t too bad, but with how those women seem to treat their husbands when they’re supposed to “love” them, I’d be scared to see how they’d treat a woman they really didn’t like or down right hated.

    Yikes!

    And you’ve said a lot of great things at times about military wives, Fuzzie. I like the one you say about “if you want to marry a General, marry (someone lower I forget which rank though).” It’s so true!

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  68. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Stephanie,
    That is not mine. I think it is an old Russian proverb, but I heard it first on SSM’s blog. “If you want to be married to a general, marry a lieutenant.”

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  69. Yoda says:

    A macho mate of mine was having a tattoo of an indian on his back and halfway through he said to the tattooist ‘don’t forget his tomahawk.’ The tattooist said ‘give me a chance mate I haven’t finished his turban yet’

    Sikh and find you will

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  70. fuzziewuzziebear says:

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  71. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    When I found the last video, this was suggested. Not quite ready for prime time.

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  72. BuenaVista says:

    Only six of the last 10, and 13 of the last 30.

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  73. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    One can only hope.

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  74. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    This has not only happened to MGTOW 101. Terrence Popp’s last video was age restricted.

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  75. @Farm Boy 1214 re: women less believing of Weinstein allegations

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  76. @fuzzie I don’t know why married women engage in feminist men bashing. You would think they would see it as contrary to their interest.

    Because they are on Team Woman first and foremost.

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  77. thedeti says:

    Dannyfrom504 hasn’t updated his blog in almost a year.

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  78. Yoda says:

    And you’ve said a lot of great things at times about military wives

    Ask Ton about military wives one could

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  79. People screaming at the sky is stupid. I can only imagine the mess we’d be in by now had Hillary taken office. No thanks!

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  80. thedeti says:

    No one is ever going to undertake actual, real, scientific research on this. Because when they do, know what they find out?

    –women are sexually attracted to masculine, confident, badass douchebag assholes who act like jerks to them

    –women are NOT sexually attracted to kind, good, decent, friendly, affable men

    –women find only about 20% of men sexually attractive (the OK Cupid survey)

    –men who refuse to put up with bullshit from women and set down very clear boundaries for her behavior do better in all aspects of life, including sexually, than men who are the “nice” men women say they want

    –biology and genetics plays a much, much bigger role in forming and shaping who we are than anyone wants to admit

    –men and women are fundamentally different in their personalities, the way they think and feel, the way they respond to various situations in their lives, and the way they process external information

    No one wants to admit this. I’ve seen what happens when women are confronted with these clearly observable (but not replicated in a double blind random controlled peer reviewed “study”) – they run screaming from the room. Because most women don’t have the courage to face the truth.

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  81. Farm Boy says:

    You won’t find the current Miss Hooters International complaining about her work in the well-known but sometimes criticized restaurant.

    Chelsea Morgensen tells Fox News that working as a Hooters waitress has “empowered” her. Morgensen will also grace the cover of the 2018 Hooters calendar

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/25/miss-hooters-international-says-work-has-empowered-her/

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  82. Stephanie says:

    “–men who refuse to put up with bullshit from women and set down very clear boundaries for her behavior do better in all aspects of life, including sexually, than men who are the “nice” men women say they want”

    Deti, they don’t *have* to be “mean” men, the ones who expect to be treated decently…

    To me, “kindness” in a man is extremely attractive, and it doesn’t have to mean “weakness” as long as he has boundaries. I think women want both someone who is kind to them (this is probably what they mean when women say they want someone “nice”) but also someone who isn’t “too nice” to where they’re walked on and mistreated (kind of weak man unfortunately).

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  83. @ Farm Boy That’s a nice looking girl, but seems little under-sized to be Miss Hooters.

    Its really too bad the food there is just awful, otherwise I might go. Their wings are especially horrible. Better wings at the Kroger deli.

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  84. thedeti says:

    Steph:

    No. Kindness in a man is NOT sexually attractive. A man’s kindness does NOT make a woman want to have sex with him. It might — MIGHT– make it easier for her to decide to have sex with him, IF AND ONLY IF he is ALSO sexually attractive or he has sufficient other traits (ability for provisioning). Note that I said she could decide to have sex with him if he is kind; not that she will WANT to have sex with him.

    For men, sex is want – don’t want. For women, sex is Want to – willing to – don’t want to. Many women are married to men they’re willing to have sex with, but don’t really want to have sex with.

    I simply do not believe women when they say “to me, kind is attractive” unless you mean “kind men are good for relationships”. IN which case you don’t really mean they’re sexually attractive. You just mean they can be “good for relationships”, which means they can be used, exploited, and taken advantage of.

    And yes, men don’t have to be “mean” to set down clear boundaries and refuse to put up with bullshit. However, saying “no” and calling out Mrs. deti on her bullshit and disrespect usually gets me called “mean”, she stomps her feet and clams up, for a while. And then she gets over it.

    Women want a man who is hot, makes lots of money, and is nice/kind to her and treats everyone else like shit.

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  85. Stephanie says:

    I’ve seen you say these things a lot Deti, and believe me, I really respect your comments & perspective a ton, but this particular thing on the attractiveness stuff isn’t what I’ve felt/seen personally, but then again I’m only one person so I guess take it with a grain of salt.

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  86. thedeti says:

    Steph:

    It’s because when you say “attractive”, you mean “attractive for a relationship”. In other words, he’s a “great guy” you’d want to marry (i.e. use, exploit, take advantage of, use for his provisioning).

    When I say “attractive”, I mean SEXUALLY attractive. I mean sexual desire. I mean she says to herself “I want to have sex with that man. Really, really, REALLY bad.” I use that meaning because that is the ONLY meaning that counts for men.

    And most women do not feel that way about most men. And most wives don’t feel that way about their husbands. Countless millions of men have married women who just aren’t all that into them. I KNOW this. I’ve talked to them for YEARS in the manosphere. I’ve helped them pick up the pieces after their wives divorced them and left them for dead (except of course for the child support and alimony money). I’ve listened to them. I’ve LIVED it.

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  87. Deti says: No one wants to admit this. I’ve seen what happens when women are confronted with these clearly observable (but not replicated in a double blind random controlled peer reviewed “study”) – they run screaming from the room. Because most women don’t have the courage to face the truth.

    To which Stephanie says: but this particular thing on the attractiveness stuff isn’t what I’ve felt/seen personally, but then again I’m only one person so I guess take it with a grain of salt.

    The existence of man-o-sphere, the red pill, MGTOW, MRA all on Deti’s side of the scale. On Stephanie’s side, a grain of salt.

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  88. thedeti says:

    Steph:

    I really want what you say to be true. I really do. You don’t know how badly and how much I wish you were correct about this.

    The sad fact is, you aren’t, and you never will be. Women are NOT attracted to kindness in men. Not SEXUALLY attracted. Oh, they want to use those men for relationships and resource extraction. But they don’t want to have sex with those men, UNLESS they are ALSO sexually attractive. Kindness and niceness are NOT sexual attractants. They just aren’t. They never have been, and they never will be.

    This is even more pronounced now that women don’t need men for provisioning. When women don’t need men for money, they have sex with the most attractive men they can find. When women DO need men for money (when it comes time for having kids), THAT is when they start looking for the nebbishly little tax attorneys and accountants and middle managers in Cubicleland.

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  89. thedeti says:

    Let me see if I can illustrate this for you.

    Here’s why you think kindness and niceness are attractive. It’s because you’re married to a conventionally sexually attractive man. You’re married to this:

    https://girlwithadragonflytattoo.com/2017/09/24/the-old-days/

    But most women are married to Will Ferrell (dorky, weird, effeminate, kind, nice, caring, conscientious) after getting knocked up by, and getting divorced from or breaking up with, Mark Wahlberg (hawt, sexy, badboy, dangerous, fun, thrilling, exciting, tingly):

    Or, they had a series of Marky Marks fuck the shit out of them and THEN married Will Ferrell.\

    THAT is what you’re not getting.

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  90. thedeti says:

    Women who post in and around here are always quite sexually attracted to their husbands.

    First, we have Steph who is married as above.

    Then there was Sunshine Mary who was (and presumably still is) married to Phil, a nurse who cheated on her with 30 different women. That’s THIRTY, gents – in other words, she is married to a man who has had sex with more women WHILE MARRIED than most men would IN FIVE LIFETIMES. So, yeah, she’s probably sexually attracted to Phil. That guy is Dread personified.

    Then there’s Elspeth, who has pointed out many a time that she is so sexually attracted to her husband, and always has been, so much so that she can barely see straight.

    And Mychael, who admits her sexual attraction for Scott is visceral and hard, and has nothing to do with his niceness or kindness:

    https://americandadweb.wordpress.com/2017/09/17/a-red-pill-man-who-also-cleans/

    After describing all the hard work Scott does around the house, Mychael admits (emphasis in original:

    Here’s the hard part for many to hear. None of it makes him the least bit more attractive to me. And by attractive, I mean the way the manosphere means. I do not come home to find this and want to jump him. (Well, not because of the way the house looks). He does this stuff because he is a high-intensity, former NCO (now officer) who likes everything “dress right dress.” Its nice, but I have to tell you. I was attracted to him the second I first saw him get out his truck and start walking towards me. Before he opened his mouth I knew I was in trouble. That was 11 years ago. And I tell him that all the time.

    There’s sexual desire, and then there’s “attraction for a relationship”. You’re all SEXUALLY attracted to your husbands. It has NOTHING AT ALL to do with “Nice” or “kind”.

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  91. Spawny Get says:

    Happy Agincourt Day
    YAY (for the good side anyway)

    According to this documentary this battle was when battles stopped being sport for the aristos. Mainly because ‘we’ butchered the captured French Knights rather than ransoming them per custom.

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  92. BuenaVista says:

    I have three comments and no videos about furry animals or people I’ve never met or experiences I’ve never had. In the event it’s okay to post once a day instead of 45 times per day, and in case anyone is interested in opinions grounded in real life experience instead of internet grazing:

    1. In support of Deti’s remarks about kindness and respect not being sexually attractive to women, here’s an interesting test. Granted, it’s based on real life, instead of what I read on the internet, but perhaps it has an ounce of insight.

    As some know, I’ve been off and on with a woman I met in North Africa in 2012. I’m enamored of her intellect, figure, and curious, vestigial Mormonism. She twice flew out to look after me when I was hospitalized, and trust me, when you’re dying, it’s unforgettable when someone like that walks in the room. She’s also imperious, capricious, and inconsistent.

    Finally, I just said to her: “Baby, I just want kindness, respect and good sex. Every day. That’s all. That’s really it.” She doesn’t understand the notions of kindness and respect. To Deti’s point, and this is key, “kindness and respect” are not attractive to her. She finds the notion of either weird. Sometimes she wants it, sometimes she wants bad bad stuff. And she won’t leave me alone, but in the same phone call we go from alpha to omega. She’s overseas again and I blocked her a few weeks ago. I don’t go for guardrail to guardrail.

    2. I’m currently flirting with an author/magazine writer. She hangs up the phone precipitously, then calls back. She emails me in the middle of the night, I reply laconically. She says I’m “spiky” and she means I am not A Nice Guy. Then she sends me pictures of her in her underwear. Confusing, right? Not really. She can’t steer me like a 16′ dinghy. I know that I am fine saying things like, “Oh, I’m so not talking about that.” There’s a lot of stuff I don’t talk about. Boundaries madden women, and then they call back. Deti is right again.

    3. I don’t really subscribe to Deti’s implied direction to “be an asshole.” I just have boundaries, and I love to be out for dinner with a woman and have her glow because she is out with me. But in private, Keith Richards seems to be a lot more interesting than Gregory Peck.

    ***

    Stephanie’s probably a unicorn, and if not, just a really good fiction writer. I think she’s probably a unicorn. Of course, we’ll have to check back with her in 20 years to know the truth.

    ***

    I know I should post multiple videos of cute animal videos, but I don’t study cute animal videos, so I’m bereft.

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  93. BuenaVista says:

    Spawny, John Keegan’s “The Face of Battle” is one of the most influential books I’ve read in my life — and I read 10-20,000 words a day. He discusses Agincourt, and the unique weapon that was the emerging yeomen (i.e., neither peasant nor noble) of England. The Frenchies didn’t even have men who could even pull a long bow, and woe to them. French nobility couldn’t tolerate any man who might stand up to a horse and a soft-steel costume. We mowed the fuckers down. There are three villages in England which are named as I am named, and my name means, according to the OED, “Town, of the son of the sword.”

    My college teams were nicknamed the “Yeomen.” There are thousands of sports nicknames in the USA, but only one “Yeomen.”

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  94. Stephanie says:

    Spawny, feel free to ban me after this post for it being TMI – sorry!! Only posting because maybe it will help explain….

    Deti, you’re not a woman… hasn’t Sunshine argued with you over things like this, too? I can’t be the only one here who hasn’t seen this attraction thing the same way as you do. Yes, of course I’m sexually attracted to my husband, but before him, I had a lot of assholes that were interested in me that I was definitely not sexually attracted to, mostly because they were assholes to other people. Being an asshole, was a huge turnoff for me and I judged those people very harshly (for good or bad I don’t know).

    TMI Warning: I was sexually attracted to the Atheist I mentioned I dated briefly – like really sexually attracted to him, even though he was nerdy, nice, a boyscout (so cute!), and kind… and the football player I dated the year before was embarrassed I was dating this guy and actually asked me what on earth I was doing. I had a pretty female friend that said (reportedly behind my back) that she couldn’t understand why I was with him – that I was prettier than that or something stupid :/ I was really attracted to him, and thank God we didn’t date very long or I probably would have lost my virginity (Sorry Spawny!!! I know… TMI!!!!).

    So… it just doesn’t add up to me, but that’s just me.

    My husband is also A LOT nerdier than people think he is, which I adore and yes, I’m actually attracted to that I guess.

    You may be right overall though, and the Atheist I dated did have a low voice… but other than that, you’d probably peg him as “beta.”

    Oh… and wow!!!! Sunshine Mary must be like a Saint!!!

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  95. Spawny Get says:

    Stephanie I’m not keen to ban anyone. I’m certainly not starting tonight. TMI away

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  96. Spawny Get says:

    BV, I remember hearing that there was a special way to draw a longbow. You needed to use the strongest of your muscles to do it. Also there are skeletons showing the effects of the legally required constant archery practice required of men and boys (across the shoulder blades the muscles were highly developed IIRC).

    There’s a Butts Close around where I am now. Butts being the archery (and now shooting) area (bank)

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  97. Spawny Get says:

    Latest video from the guy awaiting trial for teaching his girlfriend’s dog to do the nazi salute

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  98. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Deti,
    “Women want a man who is hot, makes lots of money, and is nice/kind to her and treats everyone else like shit.”
    While this seems to hold up in the manosphere and does describe alphas quite well, it is not a good portent for the future.
    I think that Stephanie’s husband is her first sexual partner. So, she does not suffer the same handicaps most modern women do in applying comparisons to her husband.

    Spawny Get,
    I finally took Tarn’s advice and skipped reading a comment from someone who gets personal and abuses the good will of this blog. It was liberating.

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  99. BuenaVista says:

    The French cut the index finger off the English longbow men. That permanently disabled them.

    To pull a longbow, one needed to train from childhood. Those guys had amazing backs and forearm control. In France, the idea that someone would learn to shoot as a child was disturbing.

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  100. BuenaVista says:

    SG, correct. There, literally, was no one on the Continent who could run a longbow. They weren’t strong enough.

    Keegan and VD Hanson (American classicist and military historian) directly associate the emergent democratic impulse in England as a crucial, and strategic military asset. It was that impulse that wiped out the French at Agincourt, and in centuries to follow whenever an army of free men confronted tyranny.

    I’d illustrate this fact with a fluffy puppy video, but there aren’t any. Perhaps I’ll just auto-post 15 comments on things that I don’t understand and haven’t experienced.

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  101. Spawny Get says:

    I wish Tarn were still around giving great advice, Fuzzie.

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  102. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I miss her too. Nobody else has called me a “cinnamon roll”.

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  103. Farm Boy says:

    Keegan and Hansen are two of my favorite authors. Highly recommended

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  104. Stephanie says:

    I hope Tarn is ok! It’s sad when you have no idea what on earth happened to people.

    Like Danny from 504… I hope he’s ok

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  105. Stephanie says:

    Manosphere = probably a collection of various types of nerds lol

    I’m just finding this out. The Not So Bright Nerd lol

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  106. Farm Boy says:

    Happy Agincourt Day

    Remember that at Agincourt women suffered the most.

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  107. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I can’t resist anymore.

    Happy St. Crispins’s Day!
    A generation later, this couldn’t be done. The Bubonic Plague had made the survivors disinterested in spending all Sunday at the butts.

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  108. Farm Boy says:

    Timothy Lim, a talented freelance professional illustrator and cover artist, has been fired from Mount Olympus comics because he took a job to create the cover for the subversive right-wing comic series Alt★Hero. After Alt★Hero creator Vox Day announced Lim’s contribution publicly, Lim received this message from his current employer.

    https://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/right-wing-alt-hero-writers-artists-blacklisted-comics-industry/

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  109. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    It is pretty sad that even comic books have to be politically correct. I hope that Vox Day has much success and that Tim Lim does too.

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  110. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Completely off topic and odd this is.

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  111. Ame says:

    i’ll weigh in on the ‘nice guy’ stuff 🙂

    a guy who is *just* a nice guy is like a jellyfish and disgusting.

    a man who can hold his frame while wisely choosing appropriate times to be nice – that is hawt and sexy. overall, he’s what these guys out here define as an ‘asshole’ in that he is confident in who he is, could care a less if you agree with him or not (cause you have the right to be wrong, and it’s no skin off his nose), and doesn’t mind stating the truth when necessary and doesn’t feel it’s necessary to always state the truth. it’s his way when you’re with him, or you’re out, and he doesn’t care (or is not going to let you know that he cares) one way or the other which you choose.

    this kind of man does have a kind heart and is able to show kindness because he has frame without loosing his attractiveness – actually, it increases his attractiveness. this man isn’t “The Kindness Fairy” – he’s not going around sprinkling kindness glitter everywhere (gross). when his kindness shows it’s b/c it’s something he’s passionate about, it’s a natural part of him, and it’s simply who he is – it’s not a big deal to him either way. often his kindness is a sacrifice on his part – which goes into why it’s attractive.

    i think Stephanie’s husband is attractive when he’s kind b/c he maintains his frame / boundaries and has enough frame to be kind. if he didn’t have frame, his kindness would be … gross … like groveling. ewww. and though he wouldn’t want to, he can hold his baby girl and love on her and yet turn around and shoot anyone who tries to harm his family in the same breath. he can wrestle with his boys and yet train them to be men at the same time. he can love his wife and be kind to her because she’s respecting him and honoring him and not only *not* being a bitch but is also going out of her way to be and maintain her attractiveness physically and emotionally and mentally for him. if she ever started ditching those, i think she’d see a different side of him – a side that has not been necessary b/c she’s holding up her end of the deal.

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  112. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Ame,
    While what you say may be generally agreed with, it is well to question everything. I am beginning to see that female attraction cues are subject to fashion. Also, there are a lot of contrary women out there who can’t accept any man. It is very confusing.

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  113. The guy Roomie is moving in with is kind, but in the beta orbiter, groveling, bootlicking, please can I just look at you and pine sort of way. He’s immediately put Roomie up on a pedestal, acts like she’s some kind of our, blameless saint who everyone else is picking on and only HE truly understands what she needs and he’ll prove his affection by doing anything she wants, anything to make her happy.

    That’s the kind of nice guy that while perhaps well intended, makes women recoil. It’s too needy, desperate, and suplicating. It’s anti game!

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  114. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Bloom,
    I think that all the guys have been there once or twice. We learn. It is going to be painful and expensive for Roomie’s new sponsor. When she is done with him, he will be full monk mode MGTOW.

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  115. Stephanie says:

    “and though he wouldn’t want to, he can hold his baby girl and love on her and yet turn around and shoot anyone who tries to harm his family in the same breath. he can wrestle with his boys and yet train them to be men at the same time. he can love his wife and be kind to her because she’s respecting him and honoring him and not only *not* being a bitch but is also going out of her way to be and maintain her attractiveness physically and emotionally and mentally for him. if she ever started ditching those, i think she’d see a different side of him – a side that has not been necessary b/c she’s holding up her end of the deal.”

    Ame, that is the sweetest comment ever. ❤

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  116. Fuzzie despite being used, drained, then gutted by “hot mess” types he keeps going, looking for “the one!” I guarantee its not roomie. Sadly. I tried to warn him as a friend about the last one and also about Roomie and he won’t hear it so I figure he gets what he gets…. He’s really got some kind of fetish is all I can think of, to keep going for the female version of A complete cad.

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  117. @fuzzie Another thing that I never noticed before but I did notice this time is his attraction to females that are in such complete state of (self induced) wreckage feels almost predatory in a way that’s hard to describe. It’s like he’s moving in on their weakness…

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  118. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Bloom,
    If he keeps going down this road, it is his fault. For most of us, one experience is enough. What Roomie has done is to trigger the “rescue instinct”. Been there, done that, no tee shirt. It nearly killed me. For months, it was live or die I didn’t care.

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