A friend’s parent told the story of how they married young, as was customary at the time, and consequently grew up together as they described it. For therm this worked out very well, with the husband a successful executive and the wife a fine mother. This was all possible as second wave feminism had not taken its toll on society yet.
By growing up together, they learned about each other’s faults, their growth through those faults, watching each other grow. Furthermore, they shared the typical early struggles as they were establishing themselves, allowing the savoring of success later. Their success became just that, their success.
Unfortunately, this model only works well under the Evil Patriarchy. With the so-called liberation of women, their hypergamic impulses are released. The assumption is the the first reasonable guy that they meet might not be the best guy that they could ever attain; so don’t get married young. Furthermore, there are the 20’s to have fun riding the carousel, or at least carousel watching; along with other exploring oneself activities. Finally, there is the kicker, why marry a fella and help him establish himself when you can marry one that is already established later? Oddly enough, many seem to fail to see the possible issues with this strategy.
Unfortunately, this old-time strategy would only work today if an individual woman would reject the siren song of modern Feminism. Probably this is not likely.
Spawny's Space 
I think it was SSM who introduced us to the Russian proverb for women, “If you would be married to a general, marry a lieutenant.” The problem with present day women is that they want the finished product and are unwilling to invest any time in the process. This is not quite hypergamy, but it is a form of greed.
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Women don’t invest, they consume.
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Headhunter,
It wasn’t always the way it is now.
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i LOVED marrying young and ‘growing up together!’ i hope my girls are able to do the same … but i’ve told them i’ll let them know what i think of guys they’re interested in. my mom years later told me i married a man like my dad – lot a good that did me thirteen years after-the-fact. my girls will know beforehand – they still get to choose, but they will have eyes wide open.
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it’s sad, though, when women *think* they’re *waking up* after years in such a marriage … *think* they *missed out* on a lot when they were younger, and then go off to make up for that. bad bad bad.
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The situation is different but women are the same. The rules that kept them from running amok before have been removed and their natural tendencies are being fully expressed. Classical texts both religious and secular tell us that women haven’t changed for thousands of years.
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For old school marriage to make a come back the notions of women as moral agents and romantic love in marriage will have to die.
Biblical marriage wasn’t based on romantic love or any of that bullshit. The foundation of marriage is women as property, property rights, ensuring a genetic lineage to inherit property, expanding ecconmic opportunities, politics etc etc.
Most men and no women have what it takes to do that hard ass stuff that works
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Fuck. I just answered this idea at blooms
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I met Mrs in grade 11 at the ripe old age of 16.
When we got together after college we both had N counts of 4 or 5.
We were not “in love”
Instead at 22 we both wanted marriage, family was centre to our lives and kids.
We were religously, politically and work ethic compatable.
It was 1986 so the me generation was just starting.
Over the course of 30 years she was a SAHM for 20 then went back to work.
I often had two jobs.
For the kids first five years we lived communal!y with her parents and her grandmother. 4 generations in one house. Nana lived to be 95, in the house til 93 because we cared for her.
Of 30 years we lived apart for over five added up. For at least 3 I worked at the airport in Toronto and went home (4 hours away) to Algonquin Park on weekends so the kids could grow up on the lake in the country.
For ten years I commuted 3 hours a day.
We faught, we were broke, she was a single mom really for much of the child raising.
We had good and bad and the year from hell after the kids went to college and we seperated.
But through it all Family kept us going.
Not for the kids or for her or for me or for the extended relations.
Family. All of it.
For good, bad, stupid, obstinant, moron, lovable, cute…
Family. Period.
The Family as the whole was more than any one member.
I still have to Game her, she still has to keep me in check, the kids still need money.
It is never…whew, not its done and gets easier.
But we are Family.
And I guess that makes us Dinosaurs.
mgtowhorsemansaid:October 8, 2017 at 5:12 am
It is never…whew Now its done. Its always something.
Mgtowhorsemansaid:October 8, 2017 at 5:23 am
It sounds trite but really for us its the core. That we are part of something bigger.
Each has preferences, temptations, faults, that annoying thing we do.
But balancing all the media shit, the society, etc.
Its the belief that family needs you and you need it that overrides.
Not codependent. Much of our lives we were physically apart or in transit.
But 400 miles away the Family is there.
Always.
Besides we have seen each other grow from awkward teenagers through adults thru careers and now getting fucking older. Literally no one can understand what shaped me like she can and vice versa.
Literally I will not live long enough for someone today to know me that long.
There is a comfort knowing that
Also the code words and catch phrases, its like the windtalkers during the war.
Only a lifetime of mutual experience can sum up a very specific idea in a twenty year old movie quote.
“Comeon Mav, do some of that pilot shit” means somethingv very specific in our house
And for you all “I dont think that word means what you think it does.”
mgtowhorsemansaid:October 8, 2017 at 5:25 am
A Llama?? He’s supposed to be dead!
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Horseman … that is an amazing story … and it’s real. that’s worth living for.
that’s the kind of family i have always longed for but provide for my girls 🙂
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LOL yea I addressesed the same point at her place too
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While cynicism may be good for pointing out problems, it is of little use in providing solutions.
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There is hope for journalism. Runs three and a half minutes.
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A private college president allegedly told a student government meeting that a young woman’s assault at the hands of campus protesters was justified on the grounds that the victim had “privilege.” The president, meanwhile, denies that he made such a claim.
A student who attended the Sept. 25 meeting relayed the alleged remarks by Albion College President Mauri Ditzler to The College Fix Wednesday night, saying the president’s comments “had everyone in the room shocked.” The young woman who was attacked also tweeted the same allegations.
https://www.thecollegefix.com/post/37600/
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In the case of Michigan State University, the hysteria becomes a parody.
A student living in a dorm room reported a “noose” hung outside her door. The armies of righteous indignation were activated and the “incident” became a cause on social media.
The president issued a condemnation, students decried racism on campus, and black people reported being in fear for their lives.
In the immortal words of Emily Litella: “Never mind.”
https://pjmedia.com/trending/2017/10/07/snowflakes-campus-mistake-shoelaces-noose/
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In the woods he should go
There is a rogue “poop bandit” on the loose at the Environmental Protection Agency. I will try to make as few puns about this as humanly possible.
GovernmentExecutive.com obtained an e-mail from Denver EPA administrator Howard Cantor asking employees to please not leave feces in the hallway.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/compost/wp/2014/06/25/epa-employees-asked-to-stop-pooping-in-hallway-poop-bandit-may-still-be-on-the-loose/
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Yoda,
I think that Albion College needs a new President.
I think that Moo U. will outlaw shoelaces.
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Vice President Mike Pence walked out of the Indianapolis Colts-San Francisco 49ers game Sunday afternoon after nearly two dozen 49ers kneeled during the playing of the National Anthem.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/10/potus-trump-masterminds-vp-pence-leaving-nfl-game-players-kneel-national-anthem/
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College students that stupid probably have Velcro shoes they do
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Yoda,
I had hoped that the NFL would chill from here on. No such luck.
I can see the mental image of students that mentally infirm.
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Gov. Jerry Brown signed a bill Friday that lowers from a felony to a misdemeanor the crime of knowingly exposing a sexual partner to HIV without disclosing the infection. The measure also applies to those who give blood without telling the blood bank that they are HIV-positive.
https://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2017/10/08/california-sex-triumphs-death/
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NFL has a wound that will heal not
Sap it of strength it will
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Yoda,
Jerry Brown signed much bad legislation he has.
Well remembered he will be not.
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Yoda,
While I have never been that big on football, it was the last thing on television that men could claim to be of interest to them. What is left? Feminist approved documentaries?
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Front page of CBC News the VP is.
Canucks understand the NFL players not.
Flag and Anthem stand for you do.
Country name in our anthem it is, “O Canada.”
http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/world/pence-leaves-nfl-game-players-take-a-knee-protest-1.4346076
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The NFL won’t force any sort of behavioir on to it’s employees because it is afraid of being called racist. They’d rather watch the league lose market value then be called the dreaded R word
That kind of fear is what separates the good Whites from evil White folk like The Ton.
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https://twitter.com/nontolerantman/status/917069627406110722
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Can’t argue with this
[Seems appropriate to add this it does — Yoda]
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Because much of the time, I don’t.
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WHEN young Sydney mother Maddie asked her closed Facebook group of 26,186 mothers for some tasty alternatives to sandwiches for her husband’s lunches, she wasn’t expecting the backlash.
“I would love to hear what other mums make their hubbies for lunch and snacks throughout the work day,” she posted on Tuesday. “We are getting over sandwiches.”
You would think she’d asked for a hemlock recipe, judging by the torrent of scolding which erupted.
She was nothing but a “slave” and a “1950s housewife”.
She was “weird” and no one in their right mind or a “pink fit” would do something so demeaning as make their husband lunch. Let alone snacks.
“Your husband is a grown up and you’re not his mother”, wrote one member of the North Shore Mums Facebook group.
“My husband can make his own damn lunch.”
“I make my husband the same thing he makes me. Nothing!!”
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/rendezview/when-making-a-sandwich-is-a-crime-against-feminism/news-story/966a541e2e1ffe7bd5f13047d483ef51
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LOL I love that growing up to be Pinochet. Best damn thing I have read in a few days
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Yoda,
That is domestic violence. I wonder how the cops will turn it around to make it his fault?
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If you think she’s grumpy now, you should see her when I sit next to a redhead!
Taking my gorilla for a walk?!? You’re terrible! Oooh, I love your hair. Can I touch it?
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Scott has a new post
https://americandadweb.wordpress.com/2017/10/07/more-stupidity-from-the-hive-mind-of-fb/
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Great link! Thank you!
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Yoda,
I wonder if the VP walking out on a Colts game is going get through to the NFL. Perhaps people not showing up for games and changing the channel at home might sink in.
Still, televised sports is the last medium for men as a primary viewer. There will be nothing left for men when it is gone.
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Take Ashley Judd, aka the born again “Nasty Woman,” who is the supposedly brave soul at the center of the supposedly sensational New York Times report. She went to have a breakfast meeting with Weinstein at the Beverly Hills Peninsula Hotel and when she arrived found Harvey wanted to have said meeting in his room. What could that possibly mean? Well, almost anybody could answer that in a moment. Did she do the sensible thing and say she preferred the hotel’s lovely dining room? Clearly not. She went upstairs. Her career obviously trumped her values — or what she chooses to tell us are her values.
https://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2017/10/06/harvey-weinstein-death-feminism/
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That’s why the story about Harvey Weinstein finally broke now. It’s because the media industry that once protected him has collapsed. The magazines that used to publish the stories Miramax optioned can’t afford to pay for the kind of reporting and storytelling that translates into screenplays. They’re broke because Facebook and Google have swallowed all the digital advertising money that was supposed to save the press as print advertising continued to tank.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/the-human-stain-why-the-harvey-weinstein-story-is-worse-than-you-think/article/2009995#.Wdt7mdG66S9.facebook
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I am having a hard time trying to sympathise with Harvey Weinstein. I am also having a hard time sympathising with Ashley Judd. Nasty Woman that she is.
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[I] simply gagged when I read Jim Rutenberg’s sanctimonious piece [in the New York Times] on Saturday about the “media enablers” who kept this story from the public for decades.
“Until now,” he puffed, “no journalistic outfit had been able, or perhaps willing, to nail the details and hit publish.”
That’s right, Jim. No one — including The New York Times.
In 2004, I was still a fairly new reporter at The New York Times when I got the green light to look into oft-repeated allegations of sexual misconduct by Weinstein….
I traveled to Rome and tracked down the man who held the plum position of running Miramax Italy. According to multiple accounts, he had no film experience and his real job was to take care of Weinstein’s women needs, among other things.
As head of Miramax Italy in 2003 and 2004, Fabrizio Lombardo was paid $400,000 for less than a year of employment. He was on the payroll of Miramax and thus the Walt Disney Company, which had bought the indie studio in 1993.
I had people on the record telling me Lombardo knew nothing about film, and others citing evenings he organized with Russian escorts.
At the time, he denied that he was on the payroll to help Weinstein with favors….
I also tracked down a woman in London who had been paid off after an unwanted sexual encounter with Weinstein. She was terrified to speak because of her non-disclosure agreement, but at least we had evidence of a pay-off.
The story I reported never ran.
After intense pressure from Weinstein, which included having Matt Damon and Russell Crowe call me directly to vouch for Lombardo and unknown discussions well above my head at the Times, the story was gutted.
I was told at the time that Weinstein had visited the newsroom in person to make his displeasure known. I knew he was a major advertiser in the Times, and that he was a powerful person overall.
But I had the facts, and this was the Times. Right?
Wrong. The story was stripped of any reference to sexual favors or coercion and buried on the inside of the Culture section, an obscure story about Miramax firing an Italian executive. Who cared?
https://www.thewrap.com/media-enablers-harvey-weinstein-new-york-times/
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Hillary Clinton, in her new campaign memoir, scolds female supporters who later apologized to her for not voting last November, saying she can’t offer “absolution” and they must “live with the consequences” of their decisions.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/09/13/clinton-scolds-women-who-didnt-vote-won-t-give-them-absolution.html
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Farm Bot,
I get the feeling that this scandal is only the first of many to come out of Hollywood.
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“Scott has a new post…”
LOL…
He’s lucky he hasn’t seen what ‘high maintenance” really is I guess. I grew up in a very rich area, where the moms of my friends had total body plastic surgeries after they had kids… something called “the Mommy Makeover” that included a tummy tuck, liposuction, and a boob job. They believed they **deserved** anything they wanted at their husbands’ expense. It’s a attitude usually coupled with over-spending – being high maintenance – not just hair dye like he tries to say. A few tried to convince my mom to get the Mommy Makeover plastic surgeries and told her “it ONLY costs $$$… I mean it’s the LEAST he could do for you after you’ve had his children!!”
Some of the women I see married to my husband’s friends are high maintenance and it’s more than what Scott is saying. It’s a desire to want designer purses and make your husband feel like he has to work extreme over-time to afford them. One wife I know bragged last Chrismas about her 1,000 purse that her husband had to work lots of overtime for. They have 4 young boys. Those boys didn’t get to see or spend time with their dad because he felt like he had to provide her that kind of purse. That’s high maintenance, and it’s not fun for anyone in the family. Ditto on their cars and houses, makeup and clothes. They always have to have the best and sometimes more costly price because “they deserve it.” I’ve seen how it affects the men to have women like this.
It’s like being married to a bottomless pit that just consumes his money and expects he work more and more for her to buy things she doesn’t need. Not the same as just being “sweet and demure” and buying a few things here and there.
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““Low maintenance” has nothing to do with the cost or time spent on your beauty routine. It has everything to do with your attitude.”
Well… he partially got it right. It does have everything to do with attitude, but yes, it also includes how a woman spends her husband’s money.
From what I’ve seen, high maintenance IS an attitude, and pretty nasty one to have.
https://girlwithadragonflytattoo.com/2017/09/02/things-i-want-my-daughter-to-know-dont-be-a-material-girl/
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Stephanie,
It sounds like plastic surgeons in your area are making money faster than it can be printed. On a parallel, I overheard a conversation between tow men in Carmel about a kitchen remodel. The amount could set someone up in business. It is just a misappropriation of funds.
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i was on the outskirts of a group of women once where i saw a lot of that. they were miserable women and drank a lot, too. very tragic. they had everything and more and were miserable.
From what I’ve seen, high maintenance IS an attitude, and pretty nasty one to have.
yep. and those women need to hear and learn ‘no.’
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ESPN pundit, Jemele Hill was so upset that Jerry Jones warned Cowboys players to stand for the Anthem that she called for people to boycott his advertisers.
Liberals aren’t the sharpest tools in the shed. ESPN lives and dies by the NFL so Jemele Hill is telling people to boycott her own network.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/10/dumb-brick-espns-jemele-hill-tells-people-boycott-nfl-advertisers-gets-savaged-twitter/
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Unhappy
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Embarrassment to MI6 this would be
Weinstein told the story of how Dench showed him a tattoo on her posterior, reading “JD loves HW,” in a 2013 interview on U.K. talk show The Graham Norton Show.
“She took me to the Four Seasons restaurant. She said: ‘I’ve got a surprise. You’re a guy who has everything. I don’t know what to get you,’” Weinstein recalled.
http://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-judi-dench-who-has-harvey-weinstein-tattoo-her-butt-says-sexual-680815
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Yoda,
I had heard that 007 had a tattoo. It is supposed to honor Scotland. Wise of him to stick to a perennial theme.
Farm Boy,
What? Boycott the advertisers who pay her salary? Someone hasn’t thought this through.
A more unhappy German head of state.
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If you had ESPN on your television Saturday morning, you had the privilege of hearing host Michelle Beadle tell all white men to “Shut up and listen for five minutes.”
http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/07/espn-pundit-wants-white-men-to-shut-up/
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Her innocuous tweet was met with immediate fury from transgender game developers like No Man’s Sky’s Innes McKendrick, who assumed Poznan’s gender, and demanded that she “shut the hell up and listens to them.”
http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/09/female-game-developer-fired-for-calling-other-women-pretty/
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Yoda,
I have to wonder if Michele will be working at ESPN next week? They really are doing their best to sink their own network.
I wonder how the feminist game developers feel about getting fired for making politically incorrect statements? They have done enough of this to men.
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[…] Scott posted this, whereupon Stephanie responded, […]
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