Which One? Or Rather, Which Group?


This was a comment submitted by RichardP,

@Ame: “… which one can a man trust to be that ‘one’ woman who will be faithful to him?”

A survey a number of years ago showed that job satisfaction was a function of one thing way more than anything else: a lack of alternatives. As the presence of alternatives (other jobs willing to hire them) increased, reported job satisfaction decreased.

That point can be applied to relationships of any kind: the more one knows that others find something about you attractive (without defining that “something”), the looser will be the bonds to the one at hand – without some kind of inner fortitude that generates commitment to the one at hand in spite of the abundance of alternatives.

Take that general concept and look at the patriarchy of long ago through that lens. Someone recognized the truth of that concept. Someone realized that all of society would benefit from helping its members find the fortitude to “commit” to the one at hand (whether love interest or business partner). Most of that social help was in the form of clearly-stated punishments for certain behaviors. And punishment swiftly followed breach of the social contract.

Fear (of whatever) is the great motivator, and dedication to commitment tends to loosen as fear lessens. The manosphere has phrases that find their birth in the concept(s) described above. “Abundance mentality” and “dread” are two of the more obvious ones.

Short version: take a look at the wife that Adam’s father gave him. We say that she was intended to be a help proper and suitable for Adam. We expect that she would be the perfect wife, since the God who can do anything he wants to was the one who made her. But she was far from perfect, as are all of her daughters. And we are correct to wonder what kind of help she actually turned out to be for Adam. Don’t ask “where is the wife who won’t cheat on her husband?” Given the proper alternatives to the one in hand, “job satisfaction” will always go down – perhaps to the point of acting out with one or more of the alternatives. (This also applies to the sons of Adam, but Ame wasn’t talking about him.)

Rather than looking for the perfect partner, one should look for a social group that will enforce encouragements to fidelity – because that is the only way fidelity has ever been maintained throughout history. There is a reason why partnership agreements (whether marriage or business) stress the issue of commitment: it is human nature to become attracted to the alternatives when they are present (Stephanie says as much upthread). Since that is true, we don’t trust human nature, we trust in the structures put in place to “encourage” commitment (whether with lovers or business partners). Woe to the society that has torn those structures down.

Paul can have the last word on this: Romans 7:15-20 – “For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.” There is no perfect solution to this, this side of the resurrection. But having social structures in place that encourage one to stay committed to what one once committed to goes a long way to helping folks honor the commitments they have made.

Hearty thanks to RichardP

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119 comments on “Which One? Or Rather, Which Group?
  1. Ame says:

    just as powerful the second time around.

    Fear (of whatever) is the great motivator

    – – –

    “Don’t be afraid of those who want to kill your body; they cannot touch your soul. Fear only God, who can destroy both soul and body in hell.” Matthew 10:28

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  2. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    In seeing this again, I am reminded of the fact that dating is relatively new. Most kids were betrothed before puberty. That kind of put the brakes to choice addiction. Another point is that the bride has no power to choose in this scenario, so the groom is not beholden to her assent. I can see feminists heads exploding if anyone tried to bring this back.

    In the meanwhile, the best we can do is inform the female population how dumping hubby is a dangerous gamble that women often lose.

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  3. Ame says:

    In the meanwhile, the best we can do is inform the female population how dumping hubby is a dangerous gamble that women often lose.

    many are figuring it out the hard way – way too late. or they’re stumped b/c they can’t figure out what went wrong.

    had a female family member stop by today. she is a little younger than i and fits the profile discussed out here. she made a lot of mistakes, and while she acknowledges that, she still doesn’t get the big picture. she’s told me she wants to find her ‘sugar daddy.’ sigh.

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  4. Ame says:

    In the meanwhile, the best we can do is inform the female population how dumping hubby is a dangerous gamble that women often lose.

    many are figuring it out the hard way – way too late. or they’re stumped b/c they can’t figure out what went wrong.

    had a female family member stop by today. she is a little younger than i and fits the profile discussed out here. she made a lot of mistakes, and while she acknowledges that, she still doesn’t get the big picture. she’s told me she wants to find her ‘sugar daddy.’ sigh.

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  5. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    The long story short, Milo has been frustrated at every turn but he will hold a rally in Sproul Plaza tomorrow. This press conference runs twenty seven minutes.

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  6. Yoda says:

    Wonder if also applies to Bears I do

    Looking at the pleasure centers of the dogs’ brains, the researchers found that nearly all the dogs responded to “Who’s a good boy?! You are!” (or whatever they actually said) with at least as much pleasure as when they got a Hebrew National. A fifth of the dogs actually preferred praise to food.

    Berns concluded that dogs derive as much pleasure from love as from food.

    http://nypost.com/2017/09/22/science-says-yes-your-dog-really-does-love-you/

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  7. Yoda says:

    According to a recent report by global market research company Mintel, brands are becoming increasingly aware of the shift in gender barriers (with regards to both sexes,) as being something they need to both cater to and celebrate.

    http://nypost.com/2017/09/21/the-rise-of-genderless-beauty/

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  8. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    aren’t dogs wonderful. Bears don’t get to have them. Now, when you say that dogs being more responsive to praise may be true if the dog is well fed. That may be less of possibility in bears as we never seem to have enough food.

    I wonder if “Rocketman” is vulnerable to a Meme War?

    I looked at the photos on the NY Post article. Yeech! I don’t think that women will find them attractive either.

    I found this at the NY Post. This is what happens when judges hand down lenient sentences. I think she was still teaching.
    http://nypost.com/2017/09/22/middle-school-teacher-arrested-for-having-sex-with-student-again/

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  9. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    That schoolteacher was good looking. She would have no trouble pulling men. What gives?

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  10. Ame says:

    i think i’ve got a comment on hold 🙂

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  11. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    After the Wonder Women showings, somebody else had to try it.This time, White male cisgenders pay double. Runs less than three minutes.

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  12. Farm Boy says:

    Rather than looking for the perfect partner, one should look for a social group that will enforce encouragements to fidelity

    So where do you find these social groups?

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  13. Farm Boy says:

    because that is the only way fidelity has ever been maintained throughout history.

    But aren’t we smarter? After all, we are progressing?

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  14. Farm Boy says:

    How do you convince people join such groups?

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  15. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Farm Boy,
    I don’t think we are smarter. That is just vanity. We my be more technologically proficient. My brother was shocked when I repeated what I heard on television, that we cannot reproduce Damascus steel. As for matters relating to sex and marriage, allow the statisics to spek for themselves.

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  16. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    How do you convince people to join such groups?
    The certainty of divorce may be a powerful inducement. While men have no problem seeing this as a bad thing, perhaps women may be persuaded to see it as bad when being the crazy cat lady is the result.

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  17. Farm Boy says:

    This year Northwestern University, above, hired Kate Harrington-Rosen as its Equity Outreach and Education Specialist for the Office of Title IX/Equal Opportunity and Access. In this capacity, she is responsible for “developing and delivering training for students, faculty, and staff on Title IX policy and procedures, as well as tracking and assessing education and prevention efforts across campus,” according to the Evanston, Ill., school.

    Her “about” page on Northwestern’s website mentions Harrington-Rosen’s web sideline the Not Sorry Project, which the school said aims “to give space and voice to women, femmes, and other marginalized groups.” But the Not Sorry Project includes content that could be considered anti-male.

    The project, active on Facebook and other social media, features artful posts on what people are “not sorry for” — including dissing men. They are typically described with the term “cis” or variants to mean males who identify with their birth sex.

    http://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2017/09/23/a_campus-rape_official_who_disses_men_onine.html

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  18. Farm Boy says:

    when being the crazy cat lady is the result.

    They all live in a ” House of Independence” together. This can be packaged as a good thing

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  19. Someone recognized the truth of that concept. Someone realized that all of society would benefit from helping its members find the fortitude to “commit” to the one at hand (whether love interest or business partner).

    Yeah, not sure I believe this is what happened. Pretty sure that marriage was basically created as a vehicle to amass and then conserve wealth and power. It mostly filtered down from the the top as it actually worked pretty well for both dukes and ditch-diggers. The families and not “society” initially enforced the constraints. Marriage today is nothing like it was a hundred years ago.

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  20. @fuzzie

    I don’t think we can build the Atlas booster rockets anymore either.

    Just found this guy. He’s doing some interesting stuff.

    https://primitivetechnology.wordpress.com/

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  21. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Farm Boy,
    While Kate Harrington-Rosen is responsible for her attitudes, Northwestern University is responsible for hiring her. It may be best to save this until such time as it is necessary to prove that the university is an hostile environment.
    As an afterthought, if she has a hyphenated surname, is she married? How could a man stand to live with such a bigot?

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  22. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Headhunter,
    I did not know that about the Atlas rocket. I have been told that the Golden Gate Bridge could not be built in present times, due to labor safety regulations. Forget about the Empire State Building.

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  23. Fuzzie,
    I had heard NASA has a serious knowledge management issue, which is really just a symptom of the larger problem in the U.S. as our manufacturing base is a pale shadow of what it once was.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevedenning/2011/08/17/why-amazon-cant-make-a-kindle-in-the-usa/#78d4fca818d0

    Once you stop making things, you lose the ability to make things.

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  24. Farm Boy says:

    In the meanwhile, the best we can do is inform the female population how dumping hubby is a dangerous gamble that women often lose.

    They win cash and prizes, but that is often not enough

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  25. Farm Boy says:

    “Restricting choices can lead to happiness”

    Who knew? Perhaps this explains why modern women are so unhappy.

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  26. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Headhunter,
    That was jaw dropping. It needs to end up on the President’s desk.

    Farm Boy,
    They have to see that the cash and prizes are not enough to last their lifetime. They also have to see that remarriage is a losing proposition too.
    About cash and prizes. I saw a video with Bettina Arndt, who is a dating coach for people over fifty, among other things. Women have trouble understanding that men that age don’t own their own homes. Thick they are.

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  27. So close.

    Wente I think understands the environment and in her bones knows the cause. But as an aging one time feminist can’t quite get there to call out her sisters. You see she dances close to it, that men are just reacting to incentives, but in the end falls back to

    Since the women’s cartel collapsed, women’s bargaining power has seriously eroded. That’s why so many single women hate Tinder, which has further commodified sex for the benefit of men. Women are just another consumer good in the shop window.

    It may take a village to raise a child. But it takes a village to raise a husband, too. And modern society has largely abdicated from the job. “Good husband material doesn’t occur naturally, but is instead the product (in part) of socialization, development, and social control,” Mr. Regnerus writes. “[I]n the domain of sex and relationships men will act as nobly as women collectively demand.”

    Time to get our act together, ladies. If we don’t, they won’t either.

    https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/why-are-good-men-so-hard-to-find/article36365252/

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  28. Farm Boy says:

    This is the premise of a bracing new book, Cheap Sex, by American sociologist Mark Regnerus. Sex got cheap because of three technological developments: the advent of the Pill, which divorced fertility from sex; the onset of mass-produced, high-quality pornography; and the arrival of online dating sites, which make it easy for men to find willing sex partners.

    Sexual liberation is a fabulous thing – in some ways. But it can also turn men into louts, because women don’t expect much in return for access. Today, most men can have all the sex they want for very little cost – no fancy dinner required. The irony, as Mr. Regnerus writes, is that today’s mating market is probably more dominated by men’s interests than ever before.

    https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/why-are-good-men-so-hard-to-find/article36365252/

    Typical chick. She only notices the fellas getting most of the action. For them, yes sex is cheap. For others, it is rather dear.

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  29. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Horseman,
    Fully paid into the apex fallacy she is. Women hate Tinder? At least, for them, it works. It takes a man swiping right, accepting, eighteen times as many women as as women does to get the same number of matches. That is according to Tinder. Women have no concept of how much damage they have done to dating.

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  30. And reading the comments (the usual blue pill drivel) they all miss the important line of Wente’s piece

    “Spend a little time with single women in their early to mid-30s, and you’ll be grateful you’re not one of them”

    Early to mid 30s. To find a man!
    By the time he is locked down and married you are mid to late 30s.

    Read my lips Past Childbearing Age!

    What purpose do you bring a man to marry if you cannot produce children?
    Sex, companionship, comfort? All can be had without the need to commit.

    From now on I am only going to ask one question: is the whining woman over 32?
    If yes “move along, nothing to see here, self evident.”

    https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/why-are-good-men-so-hard-to-find/article36365252/

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  31. Farm Boy says:

    A lot of women seem to have their act together these days. But a lot of men don’t.

    https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/why-are-good-men-so-hard-to-find/article36365252/

    Do these women really truly have “their act together”? Do lots of men care that they themselves don’t (at least by what the women are expecting)?

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  32. Farm Boy says:

    All the women want serious relationships that lead to marriage,

    When I was watching my age cohort women in my 20’s, I never would have thought that of them.

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  33. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    The problem stems from women postponing marriage until their thirties. Who knows what they did in their twenties? Add to that, they want to marry the high value men that had sex with, not realizing that men have higher standards for relationships.

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  34. Farm Boy says:

    Dedicated to Michelle Obama

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  35. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    As my fury blue friend would say, “Cookie!!!”

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  36. Farm Boy says:

    Who knows what they did in their twenties?

    Ride the carousel
    Watch others ride the carousel
    Soak up adulation
    Go to exotic foreign locales for romps
    Get women’s studies degrees
    Act all SJWy
    Think that the world was built for just for them

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  37. Farm Boy says:

    This paper estimates the effect of judicial characteristics (political affiliation, race, and sex) on federal criminal sentencing using variation in judicial characteristics at the district level. The results suggest that judges’ race and sex have little influence on prison sentences in general but do affect racial and sex disparities. For serious offenses, increasing the proportion of female judges in a district decreases the sex disparity. I interpret this as evidence of a paternalistic bias among male judges that favors female offenders.

    http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/full/10.1086/425597

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  38. Farm Boy says:

    They will regret this

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  39. That picture of the half empty stadium someone posted a while ago?

    They will beg for that attendence before the year is out.

    Pittsburg, home of the iron worker, the red blooded blue collar backbone of america.
    Football, the gladiator contest of real americans.
    Hijacked by over paid virtue signallers so far removed from the common man who watches them.

    Sad. Stupid. Self Inflicted.

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  40. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    All this talk about the NFL and we are not into October yet. I think it all started with making football players wear pink.
    Horseman has a good point. There is nobody in the stands. If they had to rely on ticket sales alone, they would close their doors.

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  41. Farm Boy says:

    Before this is done, the NFL will be a damaged brand. The NBA is next.

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  42. Farm Boy says:

    Former Army Ranger Alejandro Villanueva was the ONLY Steeler to come out for the National Anthem on Sunday. He stood in the tunnel while the rest of the team hid in the locker room like disrespectful cowards.

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/09/former-army-ranger-steelers-player-stand-national-anthem-entire-team-hid-locker-room-video/

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  43. Farm Boy says:

    For most of our lifetimes being a politician meant being a self-centered hypocritical bore who carefully obfuscates his or her true opinions lest they offend potential voters and financial supporters or… a corrupt self-centered hypocritical bore who carefully obfuscates his or her opinions lest they offend potential voters or financial supporters.

    Trump is reinventing that and we — whether we agree with his (sometimes changing) views or not — owe him big (or bigly) for this. At least now we’re awake and more of us are paying attention. (On this weekend’s episode of Judge Jeanine, almost every man-on-the-street interviewee knew who “Rocket Man” was. Compare that with “Joe Biden” when he was vice president.)

    And these days Donald’s getting better and more precise at his core strategy — saying things that many, often most, of us think but don’t have the courage to utter.

    https://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2017/09/23/trump-reinventing-means-politician/

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  44. Farm Boy says:

    The whole country might start watching Canadian Football. Where the Roughriders play the Rough Riders.

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  45. Ame says:

    love Trump.

    the nfl players who are too $#!@! to stand for the national anthem can go to nk … we don’t need them here. then they can find out what true freedom is and the cost of such freedom.

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  46. SFC Ton says:

    Ok….. So we can’t build an atlas? Who gives a fuck when we are building delta 4’s?

    That whole notion is just dumb. We still launch satellites into orbit fairly often, and replace nuclear weapons when they age out of the inventory.

    So I would say the usa ‘s rocket program is just peachey

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  47. SFC Ton says:

    Canadian Football? What’s the point? Might as well go watch your local Pop Warner teams

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  48. SFC Ton says:

    The NFL is looking like they fucked up just like Harely Davidson fucked up

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  49. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Farm Boy,
    In your comment, you said something of running the NFL on the rocks and that the NBA may be next. All men have left on TV is sports. They want to take it all away and it is working.

    Trump is good at cutting to the heart of it.That has to be frustrating for those who obfuscate.

    Did you say “Rough Riders”?

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  50. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Boobs she has.

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  51. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    The rest of her is pretty nice too.

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  52. Yoda says:

    What Harley-Davidson did they do?

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  53. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Since 1903, manufacture motorcycles in Wisconsin.

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  54. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    How do these people make a determination about what is politically correct and what is not? Perhaps it is something that they decide and, in turn, impose on the players?

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  55. Even Canadians don’t watch Canadian football.

    Come on, we had eight teams and still had both the Saskatchewan Roughriders and the Ottawa Roughriderds for decades.

    Then to finally stop the confusion Ottawa renamed their team the RedBlacks.

    What the fuck is a redblack?

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  56. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    A good story that is. Trickery to combat depression it was.

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  57. Spawny Get says:

    I’ve just freed four comments by Ame from the spam filter (nothing else there), so if you look up this thread you should see them.

    I don’t get spam filter notifications, if you start having the issue I suggest that you toggle like on a comment by me or FarmBoy (or Yoda) half a dozen times to send us a signal.

    (I’ll adjust permissions if FB can’t see that filter to approve comments…?)

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  58. Yoda says:

    Periodically check the spam filter I do.
    Farm Boy also he does
    Free comments that are in prison when see them we do

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  59. Yoda says:

    Actually the Dark Side must have hidden Ame’s comments from me it did

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  60. Spawny Get says:

    I see that Star Trek Disco has 2 episodes on Netflix…anyone watched ’em?

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  61. SFC Ton says:

    HD elected to price itself out of the middle age, middle class/ working class White guy market and started a massive campaign to sell bikes to women and diversity which becomes a real drag and brand killer after awhile. HD hasn’t done that last bit quite as hard as the Holywood, NBA, NASCAR or NFL, so the effects haven’t shown up in the same large way but the writing is on the wall.

    Changing demoghpics is a real bitch. Latinos and UMC types tend to prefer other sports/ no sorts at all over NFL, and the UMC types don’t go into Harelys quite as much as middle class/ working class White men.

    What “they” also haven’t picked up on is….. The increasing political sophistication of middle class/ working class White men and how working class/ middle class White men are reacting to “their” no so subtle hostilities.

    Memmes have been great for that and I am not sure sophistication is the right word but I am sure you understand my point Master Yoda

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  62. Spawny Get says:

    Thanks Ton, I was wondering too.

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  63. Spawny Get says:


    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/sep/25/ban-sex-robots-dolls-market

    Pretty sure that they just forgot to say that dildos need banning too because…equality an’ shit. Pretty sure.

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  64. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Found and read Ame’s comments I did. No idea what would have sent them to spam. Earlier, Spawny mentioned “toggling”. This is an an unknown concept to me. Still, the ways of comments on WordPress are dark and mysterious.

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  65. Spawny Get says:

    Repeatedly hitting ‘like’ toggles it on and off. Every ‘on’ sends an email

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  66. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    It might be better for feminists to simply shut up about sexbots. Everytime they object, in advance of release, they raise curiosity and demand. Not to mention that their whole position is completely hypocritical, as a trip to a sex shop will demonstrate.

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  67. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    DSpawny Get,
    I thought you has defeated that feature. I no longer get notices of “likes” to my comments. I was even going to suggest that removing the “like” feature on the blog. I am not so vain to go back and look to see who “liked” me.

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  68. BuenaVista says:

    We can’t build F-4s, either. They’re obsolete and the engineers and factories have moved on. The USA launch industry is extremely healthy in ways it’s never been, with all the private operators coming on-line.

    H-D’s diversion into little bikes for girls is just weird. It reminds me of when AMF owned the company and started imported tinny little bikes from Italy. There’s always an MBA in marketing who thinks that a company can grow by capturing new demographic cohorts. This is about as smart as selling a slow and dumbed-down Corvette with a female-friendly interior, because someone’s analysis produced the riveting insight: women don’t buy Corvettes.

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  69. Stephanie says:

    “That schoolteacher was good looking. She would have no trouble pulling men. What gives?”

    Fuzzie, I’ve thought a ton about why these idiot women are doing this, because I know several in that field that would fit that kind of behavior and track what they’re doing via social media. First is I think most of these teachers I’ve seen do things like that are very messed up in the head. I think it stems from part of the new “normal” of not finding someone when you’re young, then getting a feminized career in teaching, and then they disgustingly get attracted to the younger alpha males in their classrooms and are desperate for that validation since their “time” is waning as a beautiful woman.

    Basically, these women don’t seem like they were smart enough to even have *gone* to college, but since they went, they picked a super easy major/degree and coasted through thinking marriage would find them much later and weren’t worried about it at the time. They went to college to have fun, party, sleep around, and be in sororities where those things would be easier to pull off.

    They then realize a few years later, how much they actually hate teaching (the ones I know who are my age admitted this maybe 4 years ago around age 26-27), they feel stuck and they hate their jobs, are surrounded by other women in their same position, some of the older ones married but to men they’d never “consider” because that would have been settling (some of my old friends said I was settling… grrrr). And most of the male teachers are older and married, if they have any at all in their school.

    The older female teachers who haven’t found husbands scare the crap out of these 29-30’s ones because that represents their future (loneliness, dejected, and still in a job they hate, grading papers every night alone with their cats, drinking wine all the time as “fun,” but now with no family or kids)… and then their looks start to fade and it probably makes them REALLY freak out because now they’re losing time (looks), still have zero eligible men in their field practically and don’t have much time to devote to going where eligible men are, and realize they will probably not have children if they don’t find someone soon. All this realization seeps in eventually and makes them crave knowing they “still got it,” because they know deep down how much they *don’t* have that control anymore like they did in they’re college years. The very best teachers their age either got married before or had a longterm boyfriend when they started teaching and are now married to him.

    There’s a consensus even among women that once you’re in a teaching career, your ability to meet and find a good husband drops severely. All these things added up together makes them sitting ducks for trying to see if they’re still attractive and using male students as that measuring stick. If they can get young alphas to think they’re that “hot female teacher” they’d want to have sex with, they they get a major dose of validation that goes against all the signs they’re seeing and feeling of their failure as a woman (the coming loss of ability to attract men who can commit, the loss of their outward beauty, the loss of their fertility).

    Basically… they’re losing their essence of being a woman, wasting away in a feminized “career” choice. It makes sense in light of all this.

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  70. Stephanie says:

    Pay careful attention to the ages… also the “types” …

    http://www.zimbio.com/The+50+Most+Infamous+Female+Teacher+Sex+Scandals

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  71. Yoda says:

    Perhaps answer Stephanie’s question this does

    I interpret this as evidence of a paternalistic bias among male judges that favors female offenders.

    http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/full/10.1086/425597

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  72. Spawny Get says:

    Fuzz, you’re using the spawny.space address (which is now a dead domain). Better for security, but is it the address that you’re checking?

    A dead-end email address used for commenting is no bad thing IMHO. I’m thinking of doing it for disqus. ten-minute email

    https://10minutemail.com/10MinuteMail/index.html

    Remember that the email address only works for ten minutes!
    You get a unique address on the page. Use it to register for twatter/wherever. Get the confirmation email for the site. And all they get is a useless email address for you…NO SPAM! No traceback to you (via the email address anyway)

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  73. Spawny Get says:

    Fuzz, and the ‘liked’ notification to me is useful for toggling if your ability to comment is gone because everything you try to send is captured as spam.

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  74. Spawny Get says:

    A useful guide to BREXIT

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  75. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Stephanie,
    You brought up a good point that being a teacher could be a part of it. Still, a good many of these women are married After looking at your link, they are all above average in looks. If they posted on a dating site, they would be flooded with messages. You got a little closer with linking it to the profession, but I don’t think we are there yet. This behavior is an aberration and it is getting worse, not better.
    One more thing, why are the boys presumed to be alpha?

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  76. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    I don’t comment on Disqus. No conscious reason, just that I don’t want to register. I have to thank you again for setting me up with my commenting profile. There have been no problems.

    I like Katie Hopkins and her graphic illustration of Brexit. I hope that feminists are shocked. Now, I am going to go back and watch it again.

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  77. If men … become used to having sex with synthetic companions that are programmed to meet their most precise specifications, how will they then interact with real women who have the inconvenience of having their own idiosyncrasies and free will?

    Simple, they won’t. That’s the real problem for Jenny.

    Is any sexual relationship healthy if it’s only ever about one person’s pleasure? Can sex with a robot ever be consensual?

    They isn’t a relationship. Do you have a relationship with your dishwasher, lady? Does it consent when you stuff it full with dirty, dirty things. Stop pretending you give a shit about the men who want to purchase one of these things.

    jenny kleeman is a freelance idiot.

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  78. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Stephanie,
    Here is one for you. It runs twenty two minutes.

    I am a little surprised that she took this stance with the police. She has gotten threatening letters from Toronto PD for exposing false accusers in the Jian Ghomeshi trial. While she is in British Columbia, they are in Ontario. If they stepped over the line, it was a federal matter.

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  79. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Horseman,
    She is not an idiot. She just does not want men to have a sexual outlet that is not controlled by women. In the meanwhile, she is grasping at straws for arguments and will toss the whole bowl of spaghetti against the wall to see what sticks.

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  80. Stephanie says:

    Fuzzie, I saw it play out one time in my own classroom – in college though. I’m not sure about the really young boys (11-13 or 14 year olds) but the older ones are the type that are very masculine, which scares the crap out of me because our sons will be like more than likely. We’ll have to do a good job of teaching them how pathetic these women are – so that they learn to view these hot teachers as pathetic betrayers.

    But as for why I called them young alphas? They are the kind who give the teachers a hard time obeying etc. because in what other world or time period were hot young women supposed to be in ***power*** and ***authority*** over these hyper-sexual young males that are already masturbating at least once a day?? Possibly and probably even to their ‘hot” teacher?? You can bet some of the under-aged males they’re having sex with give these women “tingles” because they bulk their teacher “authority” – which you could argue, probably shouldn’t be given to a hot young female that these guys are going to be extremely attracted to. I call them “young alpha males” because they are the ones mostly getting into trouble or standing out for their good looks, etc.

    I saw this play out right in front of me with some college freshmen guys that graduated only a few months before – so you can only imagine that it could easily transfer to a high school dynamic. The female teacher was clearly attracted to them and let them get away with bullying others in the classroom – only giving them a slap on the wrist. Why?

    My hypothesis? The guys’ ability to breakdown her teacher “authority” by disobeying and refusing to be under her frame of control, is actually gaming her and increasing her level of attraction to them. It’s sick… this lady was married too.

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  81. The Sexbot panic is just a diversion to shame men back to the plantation.

    Steph Nails brilliantly the cause and lifecycle to come of many women. Replace teacher with nurse and it is my experience. 14 men (all married) in 200+ women in my long term care facility.

    The causes as oulined by Steph

    Easy major = little intellectual satisfaction in the work later

    Rote work =boredom grinding same tasks for 40 years

    Female industry (historical or like medicine taken over) = remote chance of meeting eligible men where you spend 10 hours a day

    Older female cohort = literally seeing what is to come, no hiding in delusion.

    Odd shift\time intensive work = no time for social life

    Female coworkers = drama, catfights, drag back to the crab baskeg those who see the need to change.

    Bravo Steph!

    Take any industry as women take it over by numbers or policies. The men either drop in numbers or by “men are harassers” policy they ghost to same effect. Self sustaining feedback loop. And as always they did it to themselves.

    P.s. re the what about men in male industries.
    Well the male indjstries are hard, dangerous, or intellectual.
    The mission actually fulfills the men and replaces minor thoughts, drives lime women.
    Hardship actually bonds men together in the brotherhood.

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  82. Yoda, Farmboy,

    Spam filter please.
    Response to Steph, its first comment of the day that does it for me.

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  83. Yoda says:

    A British University has blocked an academic studying a reported surge in people regretting transgender surgery, claiming a “social media” backlash to the “politically incorrect” research could harm the institution.

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/09/25/uk-university-blocks-non-pc-research-into-transgender-surgery-regret/

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  84. BuenaVista says:

    I like very much Stephanie’s discussion of the lifecycle of the bored secondary ed teacher, but my experience is that people who commit selfish criminal acts are rarely so self-aware; they’re not putting “1+1 = jail” together. They’re just looking for an ego boost and some racy nooky. This is also my impression of married women who step out with strange men. And of course today, this is all wrapped in a veneer of self-actualization.

    I had never considered that many of these teachers actually hate their work. That’s because they’re always crowing about how meaningful and important their work is. But it makes sense, given how they treat boys and some girls (girls, if they are smarter than the teacher).

    I dated a 20-something teacher last year. She was still in the honeymoon phase of her career. She *is* absolutely paranoid about her public image in this small city. That hasn’t changed since the 19th century.

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  85. More incentives!!

    Each child increases your retirement risk by 3% and decreases your retirement wealth by 4%.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-09-25/having-children-can-ruin-your-retirement

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  86. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Stephanie,
    You have sen it play out, but with eighteen year olds. That would be old enough for their confidence to come to the fore and their “alphaness” in dealing with a woman to manifest itself. I think that it may be different for juveniles. Still, it is pretty sick. I think these women are taking low hanging fruit, as in batting their eyelashes and seeing these kids melt with lust.

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  87. Spawny Get says:

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  88. Farm Boy says:

    “Like I said, I was looking for 100 percent participation, we were gonna be respectful of our football team,” Tomlin said.

    https://hotair.com/archives/2017/09/25/steelers-coach-villanueva-hoped-every-player-respect-teams-decision-not-come-anthem/

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  89. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Farm Boy,
    In response to that USA Today link, do women expect men to white knight for them after treating us as badly as they have?

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  90. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I have to wonder what a ll the pink will do to the NFL come next week?

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  91. Spawny Get says:

    “do women expect men to white knight for them after treating us as badly as they have?”

    Can’t fool me! That’s one of those rhetorical questions. The answer is ‘yes’. Now what do I win?

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  92. Spawny Get says:

    I like this, I think that you might well too

    Obviously (I would hope), I think it’s obvious that I think he’s talking about Churchianity rather than Christians that I see on the websites that I visit. I have no issue with Dalrock and the like principled men.

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  93. Farm Boy says:

    “Progressives are such mindless kneejerks, PDT should spend the next weekend tweeting condemnations of child molesting, female genital mutilation, and setting little babies on fire. Then sit back and watch progressives fall all over themselves defending child molesting, female genital mutilation, and setting little babies on fire.”

    http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=371697

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  94. @ USAToday/Lisa

    Ha, ha, ha. No.

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  95. Farm Boy says:

    Two singers during separate NFL games Sunday joined players’ protests, kneeling at the conclusion of their renditions of “The Star-Spangled Banner.”

    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/national-anthem-singer-falcons-lions-game-takes-knee-article-1.3518000

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  96. Spawny Get says:

    Show was rather shite too.

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  97. Spawny Get says:

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  98. Ame says:

    There’s always an MBA in marketing who thinks that a company can grow by capturing new demographic cohorts.

    when my first husband was working on his mba he had a marketing prof who had never worked one day in the real world – was totally delusional about how things really worked out there.

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  99. Ame says:

    middle school and high school boys are VERY charming, and they learn well how to work adult women when it benefits them. that should be no surprise as they’ve been around so many since birth.

    little girls are growing up thinking they can do whatever they want simply b/c they’re girls. they’re raised to believe, “The sky’s the limit! You can do ANYTHING you put your mind to!” including manipulating boys. if they’re manipulating boys as they’re growing up, why would they stop when they graduate from college and begin teaching?

    interesting conversation with my girls the other day … my Youngest listed the things she’s most afraid of … the first on her list? me 🙂 … she knows she’d better not cross Mamma. i’m not a strict disciplinarian; i’m pretty laid back. but the lines i have drawn are firm, and my girls know it. they are free to behave like ladies and be treated as such, and they are free to act like delinquents and know i’ll gladly let them be treated as such. (second on her list was spiders 🙂 )

    my Aspie-girl was so cute the other day describing what she would say to her own children someday if she has them and they wanted to act up. she quoted me verbatim. i could see she was getting a bit of enjoyment out of it, so at the end i let her know that if i did ever have to put those extreme measures in place it really would be painful for me to do so. it was interesting to watch her react to that. she then repeated it all again (she loops a lot and repeats the same thing over and over and over) but added in that it would hurt her to have to do so.

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  100. Stephanie says:

    Aww BV, your girl probably was one of the good ones. I’ve known some really wonderful women that were and are teachers, it’s just disturbing how frequent this thing with teachers is becoming.

    But if she’s paranoid, that’s a good thing to be in situations like that! Shows she actually cares!

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  101. Yoda says:

    A relief this is

    http://freebeacon.com/politics/sanders-donor-doesnt-want-devos-raped-just-tortured/

    Rena Marrocco, a Democratic donor and delegate, over the weekend provided further insight into her Facebook post last week that said Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos “deserves” to be the prisoner of a sadist, rapist character on HBO’s “Game of Thrones.”

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  102. Huffpo endorses Star Trek virtue signalling. Enough for me to stay away.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/star-trek-discovery-boldly-representing-women-of-color_us_59c86f85e4b0b7022a646bd6

    Trek peaked when Cisco poisoned an entire planet to stop a terrorist.

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  103. […] mgtowhorseman on Which One? Or Rather, Which Group? […]

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  104. SFC Ton says:

    Saw a chick get body slammed at the beach this weekend.

    I felt no compunction to intervene on her behalf. Some simp white knight types tried to shame me into intervening. Told em she isn’t any kin of mine and they let it be

    Now what struck me the most about this is how the wanna be white knights attempted to farm out the potentially dangerous work of intervening on her behalf to a better man then themselves

    Note these were amateurs. She was thrown to the ground but not struck etc afterwards. She didn’t yell for help, the “attack” didn’t continue or what have you. Odds are good there was no attack but some rough housing or the such. Nor did they seem to understand the dangers of intervening in a (unlikeky) domestic dispute, they probably don’t know the woman you go to rescue is likely to track you for your help or that you could face legal trouble afterwards

    What we see during things like that or that usa today article is how women want the old set of rules and protections when it suits them and all the advantages of modern feminism when it suits them.

    I don’t help random women. Women elected to walk away from the old set of books so now they are free to reap what they sow

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  105. mega says:

    Hear you Ton and think the same. Since taking the RP … my opinions on this sort of thing have changed dramatically. A women gets into trouble … its “Well, bitch now get yourself out of it … cause I ain’t helping”.

    And it even goes further than that … my attitudes have hardened to the point that if some bitch ever disrespects me and thinks she can get away with it … she will be sorely mistaken.

    And if a girl ever slaps me … she’s gonna get a fist in her face in return. They want to be treated like a man … OK, I can do that. A man hits me first … he’s gonna get hit back. Bitch does that … ditto … she’d gonna get hit too. I used to live by the motto … “You don’t hit a woman” … now its “she hit me first … I’m now gonna hit you as hard as I can”. Huge change.

    There are some youtube vids on this sort of thing even … Instant Karma … chick hits a dude and gets knocked out with one punch. Haven’t looked in awhile … maybe google censure-ship has taken them all down, who knows, but there used to be lots of them. Drunk chick at the bar mouthing off, dude says he’s not going to take it, chick hits him, dude decks her … Instant Karma !!!

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  106. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    That she contributed over five thousand dollars to both Bernie and the present California State Attorney General and, yet, is willing to make this vitriol public is worrisome. This is a person of obvious means. I get the feeling that things are going to get very ugly in the political realm.

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