Desired


Over at Dalrock’s, commenter Frank K stated,

A few years ago a 30ish woman who had been thrown from the carousel (and who bragged about her carousel riding days to me) lamented to me about “Where have all the good men gone?”

Silly old me thought that she meant where were all the yucky, however employed betas. After some dialogue that misunderstanding was swept away and I understood that she wanted a Mr. Big, nevermind that she was past her prime and the wall had been very unkind to her.

Our dialogue continued and she actually admitted the truth that most men refuse to believe. She said that she would rather be sexually desired than loved. All I could tell her was that she would never marry.

So yes, she want more than love to be sexually desired.  It is said that women desire love.  Perhaps this is just public relations to reel the fellas in.  Perhaps some do desire it.  As for the men, at some level they do want to be loved; though many have become jaded and given up on it.  As for being desired sexually; sure individual men would like that, but very often they have other fish to fry.

For a women to build her life around being sexually desired is a piss-poor long term strategy.  That is why it was not really even on the table in the olden days.  This is a luxury that only a wealthy society can afford.  For as we all know, women hit the wall soon enough; and what then?

How could such a silly approach even come into being?  Here is a scenario.  Her mother was a single Mom who went from guy to guy, extracting sex and what ever resources she might be able to gather.  The daughter sees that the life of a woman is to play the men as best she can with her sexuality.  Might there be an alternative?  Who knows?  The daughter only knows what she sees.

Then the daughter becomes a teen.  She now experiences what her Mom experienced.  Fellas draped all over her because she is awesome.  It must surely be a heady experience.  One that a person could readily desire forever.  With no real possible alternatives presenting themselves, why not exploit what you presently see, feel and experience?

So it probably is easy to fall into such a trap.  Is there any way out?  If so, do tell.

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83 comments on “Desired
  1. RichardP says:

    Most advertising directed to women for the past 50 years has been that a woman’s main objective should be to be sexually desired and the advertised product would help make that happen.

    Repeat a message often enough, and people will believe it is true.

    Can’t solve the problem without getting rid of advertising to women.

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  2. thedeti says:

    We aren’t likely to see an end to women preferring desire over love. Another commenter at The Big D’s (who I can’t find now)had the answer.

    Power. Because his desire for her gives her power. It gives her leverage.

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  3. Yoda says:

    Much power in “love” there would be.
    But a “soft power” it is.
    Takes longer it does

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  4. Yoda says:

    Comercials pitch desire they do.
    Songs and movies (at least older ones) pitch love they do
    The Bible pitches love it does
    An odd mix this would all would be

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  5. Yoda says:

    Perhaps “love” an “aquired taste” it is

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  6. Spawny Get says:

    From Rick and Morty

    A planet run by women…and a little close to the red-pill knuckle

    And what does that phrase mean? (it’s perfect)

    The quote is actually missing the last word that complete the clause: “sis semper calumniam sustinens”, which means “may you always be suffering [their] oppression”. The “they” refers to a foreign people who invade your land, and it is all part of a curse that supposedly comes from disobeying God.

    Women and their desire for the claim of being oppressed. Insatiable.

    I spoil you lot

    Much red-pill in this bit too

    Watch the whole episode, it’s fun. Really enjoying Rick and Morty, I am

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  7. Spawny Get says:

    And the strangely familiar voice of the fembot ruler? Claudia Black. From Farscape and Stargate SG-1

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  8. Spawny Get says:

    From the first episode

    continuing

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  9. Spawny Get says:

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  10. SFC Ton says:

    The entirety of a woman’s instal value is sexual. She can add value from that point but on initial contact raw sexual desire is all she has to offer so it is right, just and natural a woman desires to be desired above all else.

    I read that comment at Dalrock and #1) thought it was odd men didn’t know this and #2 thought it was worthy of its own post

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  11. Yoda says:

    Also has the blue chick from Farscape it does

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  12. Yoda says:

    I read that comment at Dalrock and #1) thought it was odd men didn’t know this and #2 thought it was worthy of its own post

    Men know this not.
    Propaganda otherwise it says

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  13. Farm Boy says:

    My Mom thought differently and instilled it into my sisters. Sexual desire is not the end-all

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  14. Yoda says:

    Really enjoying Rick and Morty, I am

    Speaking Yodish you are.

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  15. Yoda says:

    The two voice actresses Black and Hey Aussies they are.
    Wish they delivered colorful descriptors like Choicy they did I do

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  16. SFC Ton says:

    I bet your sisters didn’t marry or date guys who didn’t desire them and that they didn’t desire

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  17. SFC Ton says:

    The Bible pitches desire. Song of songs, that guy who didn’t notice he was banging the wrong sister on his wedding night…… don’t really see anything but desire when it comes to the husband wife deal

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  18. Stephanie says:

    “As for being desired sexually; sure individual men would like that, but very often they have other fish to fry.”

    I would think married men would want very much to be desired by their wives (hence the deadbedrooms agony). In a good marriage, both would love and desire each other for decades.

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  19. Stephanie says:

    I mean… in my opinion if a woman doesn’t sexually desire her husband, she may as well not even love him, since men receive a ton of feelings of love from their wives when they have sex with them.

    Ask a man to stay married to a woman for decades who doesn’t sexually desire him at all, but meets every other need in the marriage, if he really feels “loved” by her?

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  20. Yoda says:

    It seems that the presumption morphed much from the original post it has

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  21. Yoda says:

    22 Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

    25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her 26 to make her holy, cleansing[a] her by the washing with water through the word, 27 and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. 28 In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. 29 After all, no one ever hated their own body, but they feed and care for their body, just as Christ does the church— 30 for we are members of his body. 31 “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.”[b] 32 This is a profound mystery—but I am talking about Christ and the church. 33 However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians%205:22-33

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  22. Spawny Get says:

    “Also has the blue chick from Farscape it does”

    From her Mad Max days

    I thought you meant Chiana, but Hey it was Virginia. Good spot. I was too busy wondering about the Black chick’s voice.

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  23. Spawny Get says:

    “Ask a man to stay married to a woman for decades who doesn’t sexually desire him at all, but meets every other need in the marriage, if he really feels “loved” by her?”

    I bet there are very many marriages like that out there. ‘For the kidz’ and ‘Cheaper to keep ‘er’

    Also, ‘Bollocks…’

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  24. BuenaVista says:

    This Desire v. Love question perhaps explains the condescension and contempt many wives have for their husbands. It means, “I don’t have attraction for him, and why doesn’t he know that’s a dealbreaker? Men are slobbering idiots. I just want to scream when he tells me he loves me.” (Since she doesn’t feel sexual attraction, she projects the fault on her man.)

    I haven’t had this problem, fortunately, but it’s omnipresent. Of all of my current male friends, I can think of one or two over the age of 40 who clearly and evidently enjoys sexual intimacy with his wife.

    Some of this is on the guys, who mainly subscribe to the notion that a woman will be his soulmate and just love him for who he is. Or they are bumbling in bed. What’s interesting about this post is that if a woman feels very well taken care of sexually, she’s probably available for life and their will be fewer strings attached to the romantic relationship. (Most guys are more marionettes than free actors.)

    Trying not to sound so serious and crabby, but failing. I got yet another concussion last month and Jesus Lord make it stop.

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  25. “It is said that women desire love.”

    But when they say love, what they actually mean is commitment, and when they say commitment, they actually mean resources. Said resources to be used to take of the woman in the manner she desires. Which gets us back to desire.

    I call this “The Circle of Wife”.

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  26. Farm Boy says:

    I bet your sisters didn’t marry or date guys who didn’t desire them and that they didn’t desire

    They sorta did

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  27. Spawny Get says:

    Rick and Morty also touched on the ‘Eat, Prey, Love’ phenomenon.

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  28. Farm Boy says:

    I would think married men would want very much to be desired by their wives

    Gotta be married first

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  29. Spawny Get says:

    Speaking of trust (as we were on the old thread)

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  30. Farm Boy says:

    That pitch is as if the EU were Communists, Utopia and all.

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  31. Spawny Get says:

    Just lit my first fire in the lounge woodburner. I’m claiming that it was to help the clothes dry, there’s just a side-effect of making the house a bit warmer.

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  32. Spawny Get says:

    Now, it may be a mite chilly here, but we don’t get this stuff

    Best of luck to all threatened by these storms

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  33. Farm Boy says:

    UC Berkeley is offering counseling services to those upset by Ben Shapiro’s speech pic.twitter.com/wPX1dYXD3P

    — Alex Griswold (@HashtagGriswold) September 8, 2017

    This is a fascinating example of the perfect tone-deafness of the Left and the Academy, but I repeat myself. One would think that the administration’s concern for people’s “sense of safety and belonging” would extend to those speakers whose beliefs were stifled, violently in many cases. Where is Ben Shapiro’s counselor? Where is Ann Coulter’s therapist? They should buy Milo Yiannopoulos an “emotional support” dog!

    http://ace.mu.nu/archives/371492.php

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  34. Spawny Get says:

    They’re still pushing

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  35. Spawny Get says:

    Oh wow. Eraser of Love is going to be writing a book

    In the pipeline GB. to get started with the book, I just need a tape recorder, 12 pints of san miguel , 3 grams of translucent bolivian petrol washed gak and some goose fat. Better start a going postal fundraiser.

    Enough said

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  36. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    If collectively women had not bought into feminism and chose to pursue hawt guys for short term that are not going to work out long term, there might be a little less emphasis on being desirable. If all they want is the attention of hawt guys, being desirable will get them in the door. Never mind love. That is for chumps who want long term.
    This is what happens when assortive mating is tossed out in favor of the tournament social model. Feminism sold women on hawt guys. They forgot to mention the downside.

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  37. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Farm Boy,
    Odd that you have two posts published at once. Since it is so rare, it may not be worth the effort to figure out why.

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  38. Farm Boy says:

    It was probably an accident

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  39. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    If it is the result of error, take solace in that error is so rare. You have published a great many posts.

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  40. Spawny Get says:

    Two posts at once?

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  41. Spawny Get says:

    Two? Posts? At the same time?

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  42. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I think it was RichardP who got the ball rolling on advertising. Women are very influenced by it. All those products being presented to incite desire in men has to have a cumulative effect. I can’t see love as being “sold”.

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  43. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Just go there. It is a meme and it is brilliant.
    http://bobagard.blogspot.com/2017/09/haitians-have-story-to-tell.html

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  44. Spawny Get says:

    The huge anti BREXIT rally that wasn’t very huge

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  45. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    The link reminded me that immigration, both illegal and legal, has had to exacerbate the shortage of housing and drive up prices to the stratosphere.

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  46. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yes, she will. We will never be done with her.

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  47. Farm Boy says:

    Hillary has one eye on running again and another eye on retiring.

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  48. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    She does have that ability to move them independently. It is not pretty.

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  49. Farm Boy says:

    Even without the odd eyes, it is not pretty

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  50. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    We need a new antidote. Why did Scarlett Johansson have to go butch?

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  51. RichardP says:

    “We need a new antidote.”

    Anybody in here do the trick??

    The Dustbowl Revival

    I think it is the lyrics that I find most attractive.

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  52. RichardP says:

    I put a sarc tag at the end of my comment. It seems it didn’t show up.
    Maybe this works [/sarc] ?

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  53. Spawny Get says:

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  54. Farm Boy says:

    I just can’t agree with the notion that the British Empire was just awesome in doing the world good. I am forever pissed at FDR for pushing for an end to it.

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  55. Spawny Get says:

    I can’t just either TBH. People here are pretty sanguine about it. But I think that a lot of places are (or were till recently) better off for having been ‘administered’ by the British in the past. The Sati/Suttee story makes me smile every time that I hear it. That’s the way to do it. That’s precisely the way to do it.

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  56. Spawny Get says:

    FTR I’m perfectly happy that there’s no more Empire. The Commonwealth is a great idea though. You should join 😉 But only after Trump’s finished his work and until Queen Elizabeth II ceases to be Queen.

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  57. Yoda says:

    Freedom allows people to discuss reality.
    This the important people can have not
    Reality defined the correct way it must be

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  58. Yoda says:

    Chuck a poor King he will be

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  59. Spawny Get says:

    That’s going to be HRH King Chuckles I to likes of us.

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  60. Yoda says:

    King Chuck

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  61. Yoda says:

    Chuck III he would not be ?

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  62. Spawny Get says:

    The others were Charles. Chuck is not an English contraction of Charles (we don’t use it). So Chuckles is entirely new, not a derivation of the other name at all. So I feel that Chuckles would be the first of his name

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  63. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Sorry to post this so often, but I love the dream sequence at the beginning.

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  64. molly says:

    When he is king..
    “Up Chuck!” his subjects will say

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  65. molly says:

    Up Chuck = Vomit eh.
    😛

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  66. molly says:

    I bet they wont bow before him when they say that
    heh heh

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  67. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Should Charles succeed his mother, won’t he be the oldest monarch yet? He is already in his sixties. This present situation has to be unique. We have four generations of royals alive at one time.

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  68. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Molly!!! Burrito, burrito, burrito.
    How is the house sitting going? Are all the animals getting along?

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  69. molly says:

    Fuzzie..

    New Dog is easier than old Dog! I wish we could stay here forever. It’s secret and safe and lovely. Clean air and land and sea. It feels like the first people on Earth! lol

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  70. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    FOOD!!! Thank you, Molly!
    I found this video for you. This car is not what it seems. It is as trick as can be.

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  71. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I think that the cat took that a bit too literally.

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  72. Yoda says:

    For general usage this is

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