Yes, It Does Seem That Way


From here,

Have you heard about the Google memo? Have you heard nothing but “Google memo” all week? James Damore, an engineer at Google, wrote a memo suggesting that maybe there weren’t so many women at Google because women are less interested in sitting around and staring at code all day. The internet erupted. James Damore is no longer working at Google.

As a woman working in the brotastic atmosphere of IT, I ultimately came to a conclusion similar to his. So I sympathize with him. Let me explain.

Until the age of 26, I was employed as a technology consultant by a small firm that served the financial industry. I built servers and workstations, mostly for banks, and in a happy foreshadowing of my future writing for Bloomberg View, I installed some of the first PC-based Bloomberg terminals for a Japanese firm’s office in New York.

She had a career doing IT.  She was a bit proud of it.  Then she realized that she could not compete.  Let us see why.

No, the reason I left is that I came into work one Monday morning and joined the guys at our work table, and one of them said “What did you do this weekend?”

I was in the throes of a brief, doomed romance. I had attended a concert that Saturday night. I answered the question with an account of both. The guys stared blankly. Then silence. Then one of them said: “I built a fiber-channel network in my basement,” and our co-workers fell all over themselves asking him to describe every step in loving detail.

At that moment I realized that fundamentally, these are not my people. I liked the work. But I was never going to like it enough to blow a weekend doing more of it for free. Which meant that I was never going to be as good at that job as the guys around me.

Here is a thought experiment: how many fellas do you know who would spend an entire weekend doing some machine type project (computers, motorcycles, electronics, etc.) compared to women?  Are the fellas doing it because they really want to?  Are they doing it because they are really into it?

Now for the flip side: do you know of any women who do the same?  Personally I know one.  But she doesn’t do it anymore.  The shine apparently rubbed off.

In the modern era of self-esteem, STEM activities are literally shoved into girl’s faces, yet it just does not seem to make much of a difference with respect to their interest.

Can anybody point out any anecdotal evidence contradicting this?

Now onto this,

Within the field of neuroscience, sex differences between women and men—when it comes to brain structure and function and associated differences in personality and occupational preferences—are understood to be true, because the evidence for them (thousands of studies) is strong. This is not information that’s considered controversial or up for debate; if you tried to argue otherwise, or for purely social influences, you’d be laughed at.

Let us consider the tally: everybody’s anecdotal evidence suggests that women just are not into STEM, at least to the point of obsessively engaging in it such that their capabilities improve.  Furthermore, there is science backing up the fact that there are differences; the genders are not the same.

So yes, it does seem that the fellas are more STEM oriented, especially when putting in the effort to become very skilled.

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79 comments on “Yes, It Does Seem That Way
  1. Farm Boy says:

    Anecdotal evidence isn’t necessarily right. But it shouldn’t be easily dismissed either.

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  2. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I had never thought of it, but men will undertake projects. I don’t think women do this to the same extent.

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  3. SFC Ton says:

    Different projects. The Girls are all fired up about “needle point”…. whatever the fuck that is

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  4. Cill says:

    I know heaps of women and girls. They’re just not into any kind of material construction. The closest I’ve seen is making fabric and clothes. I know one who makes kids’ toys. And of course, one who likes machines and has a basic understanding of them – but an entire weekend doing some “machine type project”? No way.

    I’ve known a lot of women who hang around bikers and petrol heads. My theory is, a few women take it a step further. They make themselves as knowledgeable as they can in vehicles and powerful machines to have a rapport with the type of men they want. It’s a filter as well. The man they’re attracted to need not be an actual biker or petrol head, as long as he has the type of looks and masculinity that give her the hots.

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  5. BuenaVista says:

    Actually, in the USA the majority of biology majors are female, and 42% of math majors are female. The ratio of doctors is now about 50/50. A friend of mine who teaches graduate actuarial science (math and stats) says a clear majority of his grad students are female. So I dissent from the notion that STEM holds no appeal for women. These are STEM careers. The women are doing just fine.

    But only 18% comp sci grads are female, and Google has only pushed its female population to 20%. Hence the crisis in the liberal orthodoxy. (Of course, only 18% of Public Administration and Social Welfare-related degrees are taken by men; this is not a crisis.) (Source: 2015, U.S. Bureau Labor Stats)

    There are a couple of inconvenient truths prominent in the software business. Women and egalitarian liberals hate them, and feminism pretends they don’t even exist.

    One, even in a population of, say, 100 developers, the bulk of the value is created by perhaps five people. I call this the 100x factor: some people are 100x more valuable than others. And everybody knows it and falls into line in order to be intelligent pairs of hands for those five people. This is how everyone is optimally utilized and how you make the most money. “Diversity” doesn’t help a 100x-er; diversity is just more dead weight on the cart that he’s supposed to pull like a donkey.

    Two, the foregoing reveals the ruthlessness of IQ distribution, which favors males. How?
    Strangely, the five people who create most of the value in the hypothetical 100-person development shop are the smartest. The problem is to think abstractly. Who does that better? A social animal with a 120 IQ and politically correct opinons? Or some weirdo who can transition from experimental mathematics to 19th century symphonic music to Akhmatova’s poetry to graph theory based control systems for ICBMs? (I’m talking about a real person.) Example: my business partner of 23 years, our CTO, was raised in the USSR. We were talking IQ one day, and I knew that everyone in Russia is tested, so I asked him how he scored. Response: “I don’t know.” “Yeah, Yuri. Don’t bullshit me.” “No. I don’t know. If it is over 165 they don’t tell you.”

    WRT IQ, a female IQ distribution presents a fatter bell curve: more bodies present in the middle. Men present more outliers, at the top and the bottom of the scale. But if you want to find someone 4 or 5 standard deviations *above* the mean, like Yuri, there’s officially a 2:1 ratio (my anecdotal experience is it’s more like 100:1) of men to women. The average Ivy League prof has an IQ of only 139. Great companies are built by a very, very few people who are leveraged across armies of strivers.

    Because IQ is heritable, of course, and racial characteristics map to IQ, one may not say this publicly because not only is it misogynist to note that there are no female world chess champs, it’s racist to note that there aren’t any from sub-Saharan Africa chess champs —
    and there aren’t going to be any.

    So you don’t have to be a Kasparov to be a doctor, wildlife biologist, or actuary. But you do have to be insanely smart to prosper in software development, and you have to be comfortable living in a hierarchy of competence and need — which feminism rejects as being insufficiently egalitarian. No one cares about your social skills or feelings in a good development environment. They just care about how smart you are and whether or not you can invent, or at least finish the projects someone else has invented.

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  6. BuenaVista says:

    Apologies if I told this story before.

    We flew in an MIT Ph.D who on paper had the best resume we’d ever seen (in regard to direct professional experience). My HR SVP, Lisa, who was built like a brickhouse and knew it, was thrilled; he was a big catch. He was also Chinese, and we needed some check-the-box minorities in the staff census to keep the government and big corp customers off our backs.

    Within 15 minutes the candidate was in tears, in Lisa’s office and with in 25 minutes he was gone. Lisa then proceeded to tear me a new one.

    What happened was that the CTO gave him to Pavel, the head of development. (Pavel’s Ph.D was in the mathematical modeling of chemical processes.) Pavel sent him to the white board with the usual pleasantries. “Uh, Hi. I Pavel. I have a problem for you.”

    The guy couldn’t get started on the problem. He was just frozen at the white board. No one asked him where he grew up or what the fuck he liked to do on the weekends, and is MIT really as cool as I’ve read? No, he was just all alone and unable to respond to his test.

    After five minutes Pavel got up and went to Yuri and said, “I can’t do anything with him.” Pavel told the candidate, who was crying, to go see Lisa. Lisa said it was all a misunderstanding, went to Yuri. Yuri shrugged, sucking in his Marlboro (it was Virginia, he and I had fans in our offices). “Pavel decides. We can’t use him.”

    Three of seven of my senior staff were women: Lisa, the CFO, and the SVP Marketing. All are still doing extremely well in life. The only women on the engineering side were straight programmers, or middle managers managing task production by five or so programmers. About 20 percent of our development staff was therefore female. But they were not leaders. This is normal. Google is trying to re-engineer the human soul as well as biological neuroscience. That’s not going to work.

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  7. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    This post was about Google, wasn’t it?

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  8. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    More thoughts about Google. I runs eleven and a half minutes.

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  9. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    This is the post that I took that link from. It is well worth reading as a counter to the video.
    http://didactsreach.blogspot.com/2017/08/stop-cucking-gentlemen.html

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  10. RichardP says:

    BV – I’m curious about the Pavel and MIT guy story. Can you provide a similar story of the exchange that took place with the person your company eventually hired. As in, was the person your company hired able to address Pavel’s problem in a way that impressed Pavel? And did the person hired make the kinds and qualities of contributions that your company needed?

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  11. Farm Boy says:

    AB: Many people now fear that Google, Facebook, and other companies are moving to control and censor their content. Are these fears justified?

    Hal: That is absolutely what Google is trying to do. The pro-censorship voices are very loud, and they have the management’s ear. The anti-censorship people are afraid of retaliation, and people are afraid to openly support them because everyone in their management chain is constantly signaling their allegiance to far-left ideology.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/08/google_wars_youre_next.html

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  12. Please, please, please don’t let Justin read the paper today before negotiating with Donald

    https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/nafta-20-will-our-feminist-government-walk-the-equality-talk/article35988854/?ref=https://www.theglobeandmail.com&

    Shit, he read it.

    Oooooooo. We are so fucked.

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  13. Farm Boy says:

    It’s 2017, and to some extent scientific literature still supports a patriarchal view that ranks a man’s intellect above a woman’s,” physics Research Associate Dr. Chanda Prescod-Weinstein complained in a Slate op-ed last week, written in response to the memo in which former Google employee James Damore criticized the company’s efforts to effect gender diversity.

    http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=9585

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  14. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    Back when I was going to Tea Party rallies, the was usually a small group of folks loitering outside the event waving confederate and nazi flags, ringed by TV crews. No crews inside the event where thousands of people would congregate and then leave the facility cleaner than it was prior to the event. And the event would be, according to the media, a white supremacist event full of racist bigot homophobes and look we have pictures!!!1eleventy!!

    Fuck that noise. I don’t believe for a moment anything coming from the media, and if they’re saying the group antefa was thugging was a bunch of nazi racist bigots, I’ll tell you what they almost certainly weren’t.

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  15. Yup, we’re fucked.

    https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/us-demands-steep-concessions-not-mere-tweaking-in-nafta-talks/article35998157/?ref=https://www.theglobeandmail.com&

    By strictly applying the 62% rule to the auto industry it either brings all assembly back to the u.s. or all parts will be eligible for tariffs they are exemot from now.

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  16. Farm Boy says:

    Trump – The Art of the Deal
    Justin – The Art of the Kneel

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  17. BuenaVista says:

    Richard P.: sure a successful interview was one in which people could keep up, understand the problem, and respond to it. Those people were offered jobs. This was during the dotcom era when many successful companies had annual retention of only 50%. We were over 90%.

    Not sure what you’re getting at with your question.

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  18. Farm Boy says:

    That answered the question for me. What did a successful interview look like?

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  19. Farm Boy says:

    When McKenzie Deutsch posted a picture of herself posing with the Vice President of the United States at the White House she probably didn’t expect to set off a mass ‘triggering’ event at her ritzy Southern California private institution of higher indoctrination, Scripps College, but that’s exactly what happened.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-15/picture-mike-pence-triggered-bunch-california-private-college-kids

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  20. SFC Ton says:

    Pretty sure he just wanted a story of nerd power/ nerd victory y man

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  21. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    Hey, I’m a nerd. I have a specific set of skills, which I’m losing with age. I appreciate folks that have skills outside mine, though.

    A successful interview? Okay, as a software engineer in the 90’s, I was asked to hypothesize a control system for vending machines. I provided a brief overview on the basics of vending machine concerns in pseudocode, then spent thirty minutes riffing on expected improvements and likely requests for scaled up functionality. It was such an interesting question (to me) that I thought about and worked on the question a few months after I got the job.

    All it took was competence.

    That said, I gave up the job because of office politics, and have learned the hard way that competence is a secondary concern to most that decide who’s hired.

    Age takes away strength, and it takes away cunning. But folks with strength are used to fighting against the inevitable. Good luck to them.

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  22. SFC Ton says:

    LOL I have never been on an interview. Made some tryouts, got my 1st PMC gig based on my military record, no interview required and from there it was bidness owner

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  23. BackInTheSaddle says:

    Anybody here watch foxnews anymore ? Been noticing that since they ran off all the white men … that its nothing but women, who know nothing, running their mouths off, and too stupid to shut the fuck up. Is it me ?

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/08/16/sessions-blasts-chicago-over-sanctuary-policies-touts-miami-dade-reversal.html

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  24. BackInTheSaddle says:

    Holy shit … literally 1 minute after posting this … I refreshed drudge and came up with the following:http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/eboni-k-williams-death-threats-trump-fox-news-1202530309/

    WHY THE FUCK SOMEONE SO FUCKING STUPID THAT SHE CANNOT SEE BEYOND HER VAGINA OR THE COLOR OF HER SKIN … IS ON TV SPOUTING LIES AND BULLSHIT > IS BEYOND ME. So yeah, guess I’m done on Fox. That’s the only MSM that I’ve watched for the last 5 yrs so … guess its no big deal. But Jesus … they fire all the white men, threaten them with lawsuites and jail time, and replace them with morons. And expect people to continue watching. Really ? Sorry fox news … consider us done.

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  25. https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/dont-stop-at-confederate-statues-us-army-bases-also-need-to-be-renamed/article35994613/?ref=https://www.theglobeandmail.com&

    If you are going to remove all references to the Confederacy then logically you must rename Fort Bragg, home of special forces, Fort Lee, and Fort Rutger, home of the Air Cav.

    Forgive him, he is Canadian and knowns not what he says.

    Ok we are all agreed, the following never happened: Civil War never because it involved gasp slavery, the War of 1812 because you came to a draw with Canada, and Vietnam because you lost.

    All battlefields, participants and memorials to be struck down and history rewritten. Fuck me.
    I don’t agree with what happened but really, what did you think was gonna happen.

    Whats next Big Horn and the Alamo?

    Christ, the french lost the battle of the Plains of Abraham 200 years ago and the Quebequois still bitch about seperation. But we don’t kill each other over it.

    Course Justin’s badass father Pierre declared martial law for two weeks during the FLQ crisis when some tried it.

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  26. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_Crisis#War_Measures_Act_and_military_involvement

    I was 6 and remember seeing troops on the streets in Montreal and Toronto on the news

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  27. RichardP says:

    @BV: “Not sure what you’re getting at with your question.”

    You told me the obvious: those who impressed Pavel were offered jobs. I assumed as much. My question was, did the folks who impressed Pavel actually create value for the company in the way that was expected of them?

    Not trying to be snarky here. Just curious. Also curious about whether the MIT guy created value for some other company in spite of not passing the Pavel test, but I don’t expect that you know that. And I do understand your larger point about the hiring process: “no sweet talk baloney here, just show us that you know your stuff”.

    I’m coming from the perspective that many advancements in science were created by accident, not by design – by someone who understood what they were looking at after the accident happened. And that test anxiety (and other issues that the research identifies, such as participants not understanding culture clues offered by the other) can derail even the most competent performer/producer in a test. So – failing to impress Pavel might not have been a valid test of future performance, and impressing Pavel might likewise have not been a valid test of future performance. Larger companies with larger budgets can afford to give a person a chance to prove himself. Smaller companies don’t have that luxury, and so need to go with the Pavel test. It’s just that the Pavel test might filter out guys who would actually produce great stuff later, and filter in folks who know how to BS with the best, but whose ability or desire to actually produce is lacking. (I’m assuming here that passing Pavel’s test(s) and actually producing things of value for the company are two separate activities.)

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  28. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Horseman,
    Tyrants cannot tolerate dissent and monuments to the War Between the States glorify it.
    Memories for me at that approximate age were of the Cuban Missile Crisis and we were living within range.
    By the way, the author of that post teaches at Duke, located in North Carolina.

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  29. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Aaron Clarey sees trouble coming, it is in real estate.
    http://captaincapitalism.blogspot.com/2017/08/how-good-school-districts-ruin-families.html

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  30. BackInTheSaddle says:

    guess I’m an outlier, cause everyone here watches fox news and seeing that all the lying cunts spewing their bs are just speaking the truth. Everyone knows this. 1 + 1 = 2,822. Everyone knows this. The lying cunts decreed it so. So guess its true.

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  31. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    It has been years since I turned on the TV. There are a lot of short videos of tucker Carlson on YouTube. I had no idea that women had taken over news everywhere else.

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  32. They at CTV replaced Lloyd Robertson after twenty years (our Walter Cronkite) with Lisa LaFlamme.
    I miss his signature “and thats the kind of day it was.”

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  33. BuenaVista says:

    Richard P.:

    “You told me the obvious: those who impressed Pavel were offered jobs. I assumed as much. My question was, did the folks who impressed Pavel actually create value for the company in the way that was expected of them?”

    –Yes. Many exceeded expectations.

    “Not trying to be snarky here. Just curious. Also curious about whether the MIT guy created value for some other company in spite of not passing the Pavel test, but I don’t expect that you know that. And I do understand your larger point about the hiring process: “no sweet talk baloney here, just show us that you know your stuff”.”

    –Don’t know. I’m sure he was hired toute suite because of affirmative action and his toney degree.

    “I’m coming from the perspective that many advancements in science were created by accident, not by design – by someone who understood what they were looking at after the accident happened. And that test anxiety (and other issues that the research identifies, such as participants not understanding culture clues offered by the other) can derail even the most competent performer/producer in a test.”

    –Our software engineering culture was simply that of a strong graduate level mathematics program. If a guy doesn’t want to solve problems in math, he shouldn’t apply to jobs that involve solving problems in math. This guy, to be brief, was unable to show entry level brains, and he approached his interview with very low key people like a pussy.

    “So – failing to impress Pavel might not have been a valid test of future performance, and impressing Pavel might likewise have not been a valid test of future performance. Larger companies with larger budgets can afford to give a person a chance to prove himself. Smaller companies don’t have that luxury, and so need to go with the Pavel test. It’s just that the Pavel test might filter out guys who would actually produce great stuff later, and filter in folks who know how to BS with the best, but whose ability or desire to actually produce is lacking. (I’m assuming here that passing Pavel’s test(s) and actually producing things of value for the company are two separate activities.)”

    –We displaced large companies, then they licensed our software, and then one of them bought the company.

    –We gave everyone a chance to “prove himself.” But the very notion implies that some won’t. Most entrepreneurs and large company execs are much too slow to cut loose people who should be in other jobs, generally for emotional/friendship/political reasons.

    *****

    Last fall I was helping a close friend at harvest. I made a big mistake with a loaded grain semi at 11 pm, right when everyone wanted to go home because you work 18-20 hours a day without surcease at harvest. Then a few days later I made another mistake with a 50′ wide field cultivator.

    I had to offer to quit — I didn’t want to make my friend uncomfortable, and we see each other at church etc. I wasn’t staying sharp. It wasn’t good enough.

    He didn’t take me up on it, but he did talk it over for a while with the other hired man. When we were planting this spring I wasn’t assigned the 800 hp tractor, per prior years. Demanding environments are unforgiving, and should be. It doesn’t matter if they pay $15/hour or a lot more.

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  34. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Horseman,
    I can appreciate that.

    This was one of the first things that I read today. It is like it will never be resolved. This what happens when feminism messes with the sexual marketplace. The end result is that women are not attracted to men who would be good husbands and fathers.

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  35. Spawny Get says:

    BackInTheSaddle, I’m in the UK. I’ve given up on the MSM in the main. Really, what’s the point when you know that they’re pushing a narrative and only reporting what supports that?

    What aren’t they reporting? Who aren’t they talking to / about? The bias against BREXIT and Trump is wall to wall. Bad news – because of BREXIT. Good news – in spite of BREXIT.

    We had a member of the Shadow Cabinet (opposition to the government’s leadershit) have to resign yesterday for calling the rape gangs in Rotherham etc pakistani muslims. She was forced to retire for telling the truth.

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  36. Yoda says:

    She was forced to retire for telling the truth.

    Make note of this people will

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  37. Stephanie says:

    Sorry to be random but our baby is getting bigger!!!! It’s good I married young or I probably would have had a very bad case of baby rabies by now….
    https://girlwithadragonflytattoo.com/2017/08/17/babies-babies-babies/

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  38. Yoda says:

    A new bill being considered by the California State Senate would punish people who “willfully and repeatedly” refuse “to use a transgender resident’s preferred name or pronouns” in a public health, retirement or housing institution.

    http://www.breitbart.com/california/2017/08/17/california-bill-1-year-in-jail-for-using-wrong-transgender-pronoun/

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  39. Yoda says:

    Sorry to be random but our baby is getting bigger!!!!

    Babies do this they do

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  40. Yoda says:

    If utopia to have we are,
    Truth we must have not

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  41. Yoda says:

    “I’m going to save you three years of therapy where you and your partner try to ‘agree to disagree,’” she writes. “If your partner is a Trump supporter and you are not, just divorce them.”

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/08/16/marital-advice-tolerant-feminist-divorce-trump-supporting-spouse/

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  42. Yoda says:

    “As the CEO of a service with 700 million users, Systrom recognizes that he’s something like the benevolent dictator of a country more than twice the size of the US,” declared Wired in their profile of Instagram CEO Kevin Systrom this week. “The choices he makes affect the lives of all his users—some of whom are insecure teens, some of whom are well-adjusted adults, some of whom are advertisers, and some of whom are pop singers dealing with an infestation of snakes.”

    The profile continued to claim that support for free speech was beginning to shift in Silicon Valley, where companies are now starting to doubt the concept and take a more controlled stance over speech.

    http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/08/16/wired-notes-silicon-valley-companies-are-starting-to-doubt-concept-of-free-speech/

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  43. RichardP says:

    BV – thanks for the detail.

    I once hired a young black dude who impressed me during the interview. Wanted to give the guy a chance. I needed someone to create a fairly complicated database program (bank customer stuff). Gave him the book to learn the application and the time to do it. He created exactly what I needed. Sharp mind, quick learner – with regard to learning a new software program.

    Problem was – he built the application so that it searched on the customer’s first name. Didn’t create any other search options. And, eventually, I learned that he didn’t know how to multiply by 10% in his head (simply move the decimal point left by one place). Over time, other subtle deficits of this sort revealed themselves – to the point that I decided I had to let him go. Didn’t fire him. Told him I needed to replace him and why and suggested that he needed to get a different job that didn’t require quite so much of him. Gave him a good-enough recommendation and he did get another job soon after.

    That was an eye-opener for me. He came from a culture different from mine. Many things I assumed he would “just know”, and so didn’t think to ask about them in the interview, he actually didn’t know (how do you not know to search on last names rather than first names, etc.?)

    Big difference between content knowledge (what you learn from reading books, etc.) and process knowledge (what you learn from actually doing the task).

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  44. Spawny Get says:

    MGTOWski
    After escaping poverty, a Russian is afraid of returning after witnessing Russian women spermjacking men. Only problem, vasectomies are illegal in Russia

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  45. Ski is a slave or polish addendum. Ovich meaning son of is the russian.

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  46. Yoda says:

    A MGTOW is a slave not

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  47. Yoda says:

    Looks like news gets to Degoba faster than the Land of Kiwis it does

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  48. Cill says:

    Rare for this kiwi to read the advice of Jennifer Wright it is. More good looking than her I am.

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  49. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Stephanie,
    They could use a little help too.

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  50. Cill says:

    To be good looking, better than movie star good looks you must have.

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  51. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-17/-smokey-and-the-bandit-charm-fades-as-truck-driver-hiring-lags

    175,000 new truckers need in the next 6 (SIX) years.

    And Millenials and Women are the answer.
    And we’ll get em by omproving the work life balance of trucking.

    AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahaha. (Oh god I can’t breathe) ahahahahaha

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  52. Yoda says:

    “Of course they’re not going to be stop with a few Confederate generals. They’re just getting started. Pretty soon it will be all statues. Then it’ll be movies. Then books. They’re on a roll and they’re not going to stop until they’ve turned the entire country into ‘Fahrenheit 451’, Mao’s Cultural Revolution, and ‘1984’ all mashed up together and managed by Google”

    http://ace.mu.nu/archives/371147.php

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  53. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda at 4:11pm,
    It may pass, as ill conceived as it is. They have forgotten something. For people to live there, there have to be jobs. What business in their right mind wants to stay in California or move there? One year in prison over pronouns?

    at 4:20pm,
    Any wife that would divorce over politics, never should have married in th first place. Donald Trump’s enemies are implacable. Hillary needs to be prosecuted.

    Spawny Get,
    I had no idea that things were that bad for men in Russia. I had hoped that they had somehow escaped all this.

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  54. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda at 12:20am,
    Sunshine Mary was right. White, straight, Christian men are the the demographic that no one will defend. They can’t be discriminated.

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  55. SFC Ton says:

    Truckers get abused by everyone in the trucking industry. And I mean abused. The churn rate is 80% before they have 90 days on the job. Mostly because they get fucked over on pay and home time. As in left on the road for 8 weeks plus and being paid less them $200 a day for 14 hour work days

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  56. Yoda says:

    Ominous this is

    Perhaps it’s due to the warm weather or perhaps it’s the opioid epidemic, but incidents involving demented and often violent naked men seem to be on the rise across the nation.

    https://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2017/08/17/shock-naked-man-sightings-explode-across-nation/

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  57. Which is why I am laughing. At the companies not the truckers who have my respect.

    Fix it by improving the conditions, give your head a shake.
    Its a Truck.
    On the Road.
    12 hours from home.

    Morons.

    The only way you fill the seats is making the pay worth it. The industry is gonna come to a crossroads (yeah I went there).

    Next it will be alaska crab fishing….but only in nice weather. In July.

    I was a Fedex manager both courier and ramp ops for 10 years. Every person before I hired them had to go on the road for a day as a “helper” before I did the paperwork. Over half left that day cause it was hard. Rampies more like 80%.

    Tough, outdoor, all season jobs are tough. Period.
    So you gotta pay for that toughness. Period.

    Too bad there aint no app for that.

    Oh and self driving trucks. Yewah. I wanna be in front of a 53 footer haulin steel in a rainstorm on the interstate with the software built by Google and maintained by…?
    First time a driverless vehicle plows into a school bus….
    Planes have been essentially autopilot for twenty years but someone is still in the cab…in case.

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  58. Farmboy,
    Check the filter for my response to Ton on trucking please.

    WordPress thinks I’m some kind of degenerate.

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  59. Yoda says:

    No way, eh?

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  60. Cill says:

    It was in Spam. I unspammed it.

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  61. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Horseman,
    You do have a lot of comments that get hung up in spam. Few of them have links, which is the usual rigger. Do you think if you got yourself a gravatar, this might resolve itself? I don’t have a problem.

    As for truckers, the less people are paid, the more likely they are to be abused. This should not be happening to people who are driving forty ton vehicles.

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  62. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Farm Boy,
    That is not the first time that story has gone to print. I have to wonder how often things like this do happen.

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  63. Yoda says:

    Warning for Ton this is

    Authorities in South Carolina are advising citizens that it is entirely possible that people will see the Lizard Man during the Great American Eclipse, which happens on August 21.

    https://www.virascoop.com/officials-south-carolina-warning-citizens-possible-lizard-man-sightings-eclipse/

    Odd that people believe in green men they do

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  64. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    “Odd that people believe in green men they do.”
    Is that so odd? Hmmmm….

    In the link, it mentions that Sasquatch may be sighted too. Is it so odd that people believe in huge hairy beasts?

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  65. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Uh oh! Runs one minute.

    Big uh oh! Time will tell as to this story’s veracity.

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  66. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I should have held of on that last link.This is Ezra Levant’s response.

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  67. SFC Ton says:

    I will be on the road pimping my plants product for the eciplse instead of down in Charleston. No rest for the wicked I reckon

    Autonomous trucks will happen. The folks with money want it, and those sort get what they want 90% of the time. Robots cost less then a driver, don’t steal from you, won’t miss hit times because they are busy banging lot lizards in your truck, won’t speed, won’t live like drunken pigs in your cab, won’t fuck up the log books and cost you money etc etc etc.

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