So What Is The Problem?


From here,

Notkin recounts three stories. The first two are of Kate (34), who froze her eggs because her boyfriend wasn’t ready to commit (it’d be cheaper and easier to dump him), and Susan (41), who decided to become an artificially inseminated single mom (easier to control a doctor than a man). The third is about Joanna (39), who sidetracked her career to spend seven years focusing on dating, only to find nothing. Seven years?! She couldn’t find one acceptable marriage candidate in seven years? In New York City?! I don’t need to be a statistician to know that is completely improbable. I just need to be well versed enough in the letters written to Cosmo to know that these women are far too obsessed with the idea of marriage and children to ever actually commit to getting married and having kids.

The root of the problem is that they have never had to face reality like men do.  Teen boys very much face reality hard, and it never lets up from then on.  Girls and women, not so much.

So they believe that they can have the perfect husband, career, children, etc.  No compromises are needed.  Think of how US women plan weddings.  Everything has to be perfect.  Not one hair is allowed to be out of place.  “What kind of crap is this?” the fellas ask themselves.  For they know that reality is not perfect, and to even pretend that stuff can be perfect is counter-productive.

So what should have these women done?  Presumably they are awesomely intelligent women engaged in awesome careers.  They should have had somebody tell them that they were not really so awesome; their sense of this is misguided.  Furthermore, much of what it is based on (their youth) will soon disappear.  Of course, deep down, they know this, but on the surface deny it.  Even better than a person telling her that she was not as awesome as she thinks, is to have society do so.  Probably this will not happen.

Perhaps such a women’s only hope is to become introspective and really examine the situation as it truly is.  This is really asking a lot for many of them.  After all, why do I need to be introspective (with all of its work and potential bad feelings) when I am just so awesome?

So in the end, these women are screwed (figuratively), society is screwed, but at least these women can go on believing how awesome they are.  And they are worth it.

Of course, much of this has been treaded on before, but reminders are necessary.

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97 comments on “So What Is The Problem?
  1. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Could this be Mgtowhorseman’s cue to bring the yellow hat girl?

    Farm Boy,
    I don’t think these women are prepared to be married. I think they would make horrible wives. They are narcissists and would want to dominate the relationship.

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  2. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Off topic. If a dating game in Ireland is having trouble recruiting men, could we be approaching peak hypergamy?
    https://www.collegetimes.com/entertainment/studs-wanted-for-first-dates-142942?utm_source=email

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  3. Spawny Get says:

    This image just tickles me. Everything’s fine, just fine.

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  4. SFC Ton says:

    We reached peak hypergammy sometime back. Now what we are seeing is the mass reaction of men, the vast majority of whom aren’t aware of the red pill etc

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  5. Spawny Get says:

    I had meant to post it here, but forgot to…damn.

    I watched a video very recently where fembots were complaining that men weren’t raised to seek marriage, but women were. I thought that this was interesting as it sounds like the women in the market place are starting to notice the disparity in numbers female to male. The fact that they decided to blame this on society rather than themselves was merely par for the course, of course. Ain’t no woman going to blame it on the the prospect of marriage to her being enough to send the man off on his own way.

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  6. When I think back to how ill prepared I was for marriage, and how little awareness I had of that at the time, it’s downright embarrassing. My head had been filled w such blue pill junk, there’s no way anyone should have married me at the time! I’d pretty much been taught just about anything that would make a marriage work was wrong, while being encouraged to do and be almost everything guaranteed to make it fail! Sad!

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  7. Selflessness, or putting the needs and wants of other even on par w others, for example. Instead I had been taught, as many girls are, marriage was all about *me!!!!* (cringe….)

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  8. SFC Ton says:

    I tell you another weird thing about chicks and that’s their version of loyalty …. the egg freezing thing reminds me of this one bitch I interact with every month or so

    There is this lady vender/ company rep I deal with on the regular. She waited 11 years on this guy to marry her while he went out and built up his business. 11 years of struggle etc and as far as i can tell she damn near worshpied the ground he walked on. Marriage comes, 2 kids and 5 years later she dumps the guy she has 16 years plus in with for another man. So looks like she was loyal for the hard 11 years of business building effort, not loyal to marriage vows and 5 years of the semi easy life. Just weird as hell but hypergammy has them do weird shit.

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  9. SFC Ton says:

    From the article

    but men who simply don’t value career growth or marital success as much as women do
    ———–

    By the time men have done their career growth they have seen enough to be cautious on the marriage front nor do they need marriage for sex or have the oout of control sex drive of 13 year old young men

    The delaying game is a looking game for most women

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  10. SFC Ton says:

    Also i wonder how big a role sexual harassment issues make it difficult for career women to lock down a beta since they spend most of their time at work and most guys won’t risk their day job etc for a possible coffee date…. said coffee date sort of things being the kick start to the rest of the “relationship” for most folks

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  11. http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/the-u-s-fertility-rate-just-hit-a-historic-low-some-demographers-worry-its-a-baby-crisis/wcm/71ed06ce-658d-4cce-924a-2aade7f48c73

    “Indeed, as fertility treatments have extended the age of childbearing, the birthrates among women who are age 40 to 44 are also rising.”

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  12. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I wonder if anyone has asked Ted Turner about all this. I’ll bet he is furious.

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  13. In 2010, for the first time, the fertility rate was higher for women aged 35 to 39 (51.7 births per 1,000 women) than for those aged 20 to 24 (48 births per 1,000 women). Tuesday’s report shows that this gap widened even further in 2011, with the elder cohort climbing to 52.3 and the younger cohort falling to 45.7.

    To conclude that modern couples don’t value children as much as previous generations, however, would be a mistake.

    To wit, the World Values Survey, conducted by a network of social scientists, found Canadians’ ideal mean number of kids is actually 2.7. Miedema suggests a number of reasons for the disparity between that fantasy and the current reality, with money unsurprisingly topping the list.”

    Um No.

    A reason for the disparity….modern couples.
    No correlation to the increase in 35 year olds having kids.

    P.s. How does a mom at 40 stay up to supervise a teenager at 58?

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  14. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Odd that they should refer to CNN as American Pravda. One of the things that I did not know about Pravda was that Josef Stalin was editor of it at one time.
    Bear is shivering.

    Horseman,
    Feminism is responsible for the onset of Demographic Winter and that is all they can write?

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  15. Ton nails it multiple times.

    Successful men able to be providers know better and so aren’t interested.

    Any non braindead man knows better than to ask for a date at work or get a career ending complaint rather than a simple no thank you. Preferential hiring means workplaces (except yucky construction, mining, farming) are becoming more female dominated. SIW working 50 hours a week interact the most where? Work. Hmmm. Well. Ummm.

    Last job. 14 men. 135 women. All men but one married. 2\3 of women divorced with kids.
    Ahahahaha. The shape of things to come.

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  16. Bear

    Cant upset the womenz that the reason their aching loins are barren is their fault. Thast just wouldn’t be awesome!

    I hate that fucking word.

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  17. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Horseman,
    It is all female driven. How are they going to deny that?
    Interesting demographics at the last job. Those divorced women are going to stay that way.

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  18. From the article, freezing eggs at 34?
    Really they are viable but definitely five years past peak.
    And miscarriages are as much caused by an older failing womb as it is bad eggs.

    And really, look at your older generation. I am an empty nester at 52. I cant imagine having a ten year old at this point. Someones gotta do an article on these older mothers and how awesome it is.

    I really hate that fucking word.

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  19. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    The word itself is not bad. It is how it is employed in context.

    This is going to be looked at by historians as the biggest stupid social experiment ever made.

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  20. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I think this is the one where the campus cops weren’t buying her story and she forced prosecution through a Justice of the Peace.
    http://www.kwwl.com/story/35783678/charges-dismissed-for-unc-player-accused-of-sexual-battery

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  21. SFC Ton says:

    While no fan of feminism to be accurate it is more then feminism killing the birth rate. There are other economic, technical, cultural and social changes driving the no kids bus

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  22. Yup.
    Had to convince my old boss to do masked interview selection (removing iding info from resumes.). Even though female dominated health care, male resumes made it thru by about 60/40 split. Why? They did more, took more courses and had more experience 5 years post grad, i.e. no baby breaks on paper compared to the females.

    And 5 years post hire the same held.

    Last year we had 7 nurses return from their year long mat leaves. (Yeah Canada.)
    Every. Single. One. Asked to go down to part time for “work balance reasons”

    Im all for meritocracy. But that means if you want females in the ceo, board rooms then females have to be willing to put in the 60 hours a week for ten years it takes to be more experienced than the next person. Women just dont want it. (And many mgtow minimalist men)

    And the ambitious few men and women who do want it are waking up that if they want to sit in the big chair the best way to do it is Not climb the mega corp ladder but to run their own business, on their terms, their way.

    If i am going to work 60 hours for slave wages i would rather do it for me than some shareholder in manhattan.

    Just google “corporate succession planning.” The megacorps are scared.

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  23. Because Bear asked, somewhat relevant

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  24. https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2017-state-pension-funding-ratios/

    It is going to blow up. Soon.
    A relatively nothing state like Illinois (forgive me Chicago) is 119 Billion with a B short on their pension commitments. They can pay 40 cents on the dollar owed.

    So either
    They raise state taxes incredibly, stifling industry and spending….
    ……and the economy tanks locally
    Or
    They default and pay hundreds of thosands of pensioners 40% of what they are counting on, so the pensioners turn to welfare, no one will work for the promise breaking government… ……aaaand the economy tanks locally.

    Remember, most pension plans require employee matching or close to it so these pensioners getting 40%
    ….Are not getting their own contributions that were deducted off their paycheques back!!

    And its everywhere on the chart.

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  25. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    This is beyond all reason. An attorney is arguing for denying men due process in Title IX hearings. College is a “hostile environment”.
    https://heatst.com/culture-wars/top-law-journal-demanding-due-process-for-the-accused-in-title-ix-cases-is-just-propaganda/

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  26. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Horseman,
    Thanks for the yellow hat girl links. She is mildly funny, for a crazy cat lady in training.

    Illinois is a shock. We all know it would hit the fan, but I expected a coastal state. This is what happens when government does its best to disincentivize men and give the store to women. I wonder if they will continue to give away the store to women?

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  27. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    While it would not surprise me if Clementine Ford is an expert on how far she can go, I wonder if she has stepped over the line into what could be criminal in Australia? We have heard little from Julie Bindel after her homocidal tweet.

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  28. Yoda says:

    Even if yellow hat lady wore green she did,
    unappealing and unfunny she would be

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  29. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    I am beginning to make my own peace with the yellow hat lady. What gets me is that she can have men lined up to the point where she can teat them without respect and never be without company.
    I don’t like this sexual marketplace. It place a value on men of next to nothing.

    That is what Antifa was up to May 1. I wonder what they will do for the Fourth of July?

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  30. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Sargon of Akkad’s take on what happened at VidCon with Anita Sarkeesian. It runs over an hour because it is detailed and thorough.

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  31. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Tracy Ullman this is not.
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/video/2017/jun/29/nicola-sturgeon-cutting-response-to-tory-msp-male-pay-gap-question-video
    That would have been a good time to stuff a corndog in her mouth.

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  32. Yoda says:

    About as happy as the Frau they are

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  33. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Those two are making funny faces.

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  34. Yoda says:

    Laughing I am not

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  35. Yoda says:

    In US “Michelle Obama lunch” now a term it is.
    Means “healthy meal that tastes like shit” it does

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  36. Yoda says:

    Know this I did not

    Experiencing sexual harassment within any context typically warrants a highly emotional reaction, but what’s significant about Jake’s experience is that dick grabbing, as he calls it, is almost to be expected at some gay bars. “Anytime I’m pushing through a crowd at a gay bar, I’d say there’s like a one out of four times chance I’ll get my dick or ass grabbed,” Jake said. In addition to the frequency of harassment, Jake said many gay men dismiss it as a normality.

    https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/paynyy/sexual-harassment-is-pervasive-and-under-reported-in-gay-bars

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  37. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Stay away from these bars bear will.

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  38. Spawny Get says:

    Kenny Everett innit

    as ever with Kenny, it’s all done in the best possible taste

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  39. Spawny Get says:

    Perhaps she could help out those that don’t know that her show is just comedy…by being funny?

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  40. Spawny Get says:

    Of course the ABBC pushes women’s football as hard as the men’s.

    I believe that your (US) wimminz wendyball team demanded the same pay as your men’s wendyball team.

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  41. SFC Ton says:

    The video about nexting bitches……. I liked the notion of a singing telegram and the happy anniversary one

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  42. SFC Ton says:

    Forgive them Lord for they know not what they do

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4655964/Democrats-lay-foundation-remove-Trump-mental-grounds.html

    If that worked out for the dems no peaceful political solution would ever be possible

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  43. Yoda says:

    For years, college campuses across the country have been conducting witch hunts to expel or punish men accused of sexual assault. Those may soon be coming to an end, thanks to the Trump administration.

    http://thefederalist.com/2017/06/29/trump-administration-signals-end-campus-star-chambers/

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  44. Lincon had syphilis
    Roosevelt had polio
    Eisenhower had a stroke
    Kennedy had addisons
    Reagan had alzhiemers

    Trump has at worst a lack of finesse.

    Imagine the power this would have. A secret committee to sit in judgement made up of your rivals capable of destroying your career. How could the people allow this?

    Oh. Right. Title IX.

    Never mind. Nothing to see here. Go about your business. “Cough”

    Wait. No!

    I don’t want to go on the cart!
    I feel better!

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  45. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    You found Ashe Schow! I have missed her.

    Spawny Get,
    Women’s soccer is truly terrible. That video really brought it home.

    As for the yellow hat girl, she is going to burn through men until she can’t anymore. We have to accept it because it is beyond our power to correct. All we can do it warn guys to stay out of her way. Seeing this makes her a little less threatening. Still, she is not that funny when shje tlks about breakups. She has done a lot of damage to the SMP.

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  46. Laurel says:

    “Also i wonder how big a role sexual harassment issues make it difficult for career women to lock down a beta since they spend most of their time at work and most guys won’t risk their day job etc for a possible coffee date”

    I have heard this from friends who work at other places, the guys just wouldn’t ask them out…at my place, a few guys have asked me out, maybe the fear isn’t as much here BUT the one guy I did go out with who I was sort of interested in was very timid about getting at all physical…it sort of puts a damper on things…maybe that has to do with the working at the same place sexual harassment fear?

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  47. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Laurel,
    Thanks. Most of can only speculate. It is good to have some input from women. It is sad. The last that I heard, about forty percent of couples met at work. It is as if all venues are getting shut down, one way or the other.

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  48. Yoda says:

    Mr. Robinson a “political prisoner” he is.
    Odd that human right organizations not on the case they are

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  49. SFC Ton says:

    Agreed, thanks Laurel. I have never had female “co-workers” or worked in a typical office environment so it’s all theoretical to me

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  50. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    Reference to “Mr. Robinson” missed I have.
    Have something to do with his wife, Mrs. Robinson, it does?

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  51. Cill says:

    Why the media has broken down in the age of Trump (By Michael Goodwin, New York Post)

    “What happened to fairness? What happened to standards? I’ll tell you what happened to them. The [New York] Times top editor, Dean Baquet, eliminated them.”

    “He’s the one who decided that the standards of fairness and nonpartisanship could be abandoned without consequence…

    The behavior of much of the media, but especially The New York Times, was a disgrace. I don’t believe it ever will recover the public trust it squandered…

    The 2016 election was the media’s Humpty Dumpty moment. It fell off the wall, shattered into a million pieces, and can’t be put back together again.”

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  52. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Cill,
    Historians may look back on this as the media was completely taken over by feminists who supported Hillary. Then, Hillary lost. Trump is going to have to drop all pretense with these people. They will never make nicey nice.

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  53. Spawny Get says:

    It’s got a good beat

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  54. Spawny Get says:

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  55. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    I don’t think so.

    This is from the Men’s Conference in Australia. It is as profound as her old stuff. Runs forty minutes.

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  56. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    I don’t know what Nigel could have up his sleeve that could top leading UKIP to unseat the majority in Parliament.

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  57. Yoda says:

    Still think Nigel great guy he is I do

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  58. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Always happy he is. Jedi mind trick he does employ?

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  59. Cill says:

    Take me down to transgender city
    where the chicks have dicks
    and the guys got titties

    A catchy little tune for a joker to smugly hum down under, far away from the crazy world of humans out there.

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  60. Yoda says:

    A Muslim student union leader has claimed she would like to ‘oppress white people’ and has suggested there would be an Islamic takeover if more people read the Koran.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4656926/Student-union-president-calls-Islamic-takeover.html

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  61. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    I don’t know where it is written, but there must be a law against criticizing women. To say they are not holding up their end on producing the next generation would be that.

    I would bet a doughnut that this student president has a full scholarship.

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  62. Farm Boy says:

    The debate now is about whether the United States is headed toward a “national emergency,” as some have feared, or whether this is a blip and the birthrate will level off soon.

    http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2017/06/30/the-u-s-fertility-rate-just-hit-a-historic-low-why-some-demographers-are-freaking-out/

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  63. Laurel is right.

    No one even dates in high school.
    Only a brain dead idiot who wants to go to prison Looks at a girl in college.
    Start work and day one everyone has to (in Ontario by law) sign the corporate anti harassment policy explaining how to lodge a complaint. Which does wonders helping a guy ask a girl out.
    So whats left? Bars and dating sites? Breeding grounds for the crazy hot matrix.
    Church? Well if the pastor stops with the guilt that I was born with testicles.
    The mall? Grocery store? “Security!!”

    Or the old standby. Fix up by your friends.
    See above. They don’t know any girls either.

    Where are the guys gone? You lament.
    Well 50% of us are guys.
    Its just that we are not allowed to talk to you.

    Irony! Its ironic isn’t it.

    Oh and if you approach us?
    We’ll just ignore you.
    Cause after ten years of not talking to you, we really dont find you interesting seeing as we have never talked to you.

    Wanna teach a dog to ignore the cat, smack it every time the cat walks by.
    After a while you could fill the room with cats and the dog will ignore them.

    And aren’t a room full of cats the end goal anyway??

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  64. Ok in my day Paradise City was a major Stripper staple.
    Along with Sweet Child o Mine and Pour Some Sugar On Me.

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  65. Thank god I was born before this bullshit took hold.
    And that I found a normal rational girl who feminism funny.

    Out with some old friends and new couples, single a few days ago.
    One girl (divorced and there alone) sees me kiss Mrs for bringing me a beer from the bar.

    “How sweet. How long have you been together? Second marriage.?”

    Mrs “hell no, after 30 years I’ll keep him.”
    Divorcee “30 years? Bullshit!!”

    All our friends just smile and nod.
    Mrs “Yup.”

    I have never seen someones face actually curdle before. That look could melt titanium.
    Lets just say thats one anniversary card we Won’t be getting.

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  66. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Farm Boy,
    Again, you found an article about birth rates falling through the floor and no one knows why. “There are none so blind as those who will not see.”

    Horseman,
    If you hear about a venue that works for young men and women to meet, please share. I think they have found a way to kill every one. It is odd, though. Women are acting as if their pipeline is full. Maybe, it only seems to work on their end.

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  67. Farm Boy says:

    There is a new post

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