Young Sheilas — Making It Easier For The Bloke

Stephanie stated,

They aren’t thinking at all about these young adult Christian women (chaste, modest, not fat, etc.) as to whether they have the kind of personality traits to make men more attracted to them. It’s **not** enough to just be quiet, kind, sweet, chaste and Christian and young. I know sometimes the manosphere makes it seem that way because it’s full of age 35+ men, but it’s just not. It CAN be enough if maybe you’re hot enough that guys will still go after you even if you’re quiet, but ***usually*** guys that age want women who have a more social/outgoing personality and are more direct (like Stefan admits what hooked him so well).

When I think back to college which wasn’t that far off for us, the girls who had a really hard time that WEREN’T fat or really unattractive, were the ones who were just there and quiet and really not that outgoing. The ones that hid their personalities due to shyness had a very hard time, they may still not have even found husbands (and they’d be 30 now). I knew two black sisters (twins) in our Christian college group that were just so attached at the hip (they should’ve been split up for their own good so they could find a guy easier) and they were much too quiet and shy to be noticed when there were that many *other* girls there snatching up men like popcorn. They weren’t fat at all, they were definitely modest and chaste, and sweet, but they had a huge disadvantage in being so shy/introverted. Their parents probably wouldn’t have thought of them as shy or introverted though, they were successful pre-med students. But **in comparison** (competition really) to the other girls in the group, they had a significant disadvantage in finding a husband or even boyfriend.

There were a plethora of other girls like that too I think, that were just a little too quiet and didn’t know how to really talk with guys in a way that was interesting. When there are other girls competing with you for snagging a husband, having that kind of disadvantage is far more significant I think.

The old school book I have that my mom gave me from like the 1920’s advice about girls dating and finding a husband, it explicitly goes into how young women need to develop the ability to talk to men their age or older, engage them, flirt and develop a personality that is (in the author’s own words) “fascinating.”

“Fascinating” is a pretty big deal. Even in the 1920’s they weren’t saying that it would be easy to snag a husband if you were mediocre in conversation and personality with guys. So this isn’t something new really with our gen Y problems… men have always been drawn more to young women who could captivate them and fascinate them with their personality. The book actually goes into that, citing authors from prior centuries describing the women who captivated them.

I honestly think the girls that had a hard time thought they just had to show up and be sweet, chaste, modest and Christian, and somehow draw men their own age to them. 40-50 year old men might recognize their value, but young 20’s Christian girls are not interested in older men like that. The young men (who are still kind of shy about who they like at that young age as well) really appreciate a girl who is more outgoing and has a personality and who can instigate the conversation with a shy man or brave man.

The onus is on the bloke with respect to most everything.  To succeed he must have resources, be accomplished, good at conversation, not afraid of approaching, etc.  What does the sheila need to do?  In the modern day, the answer is basically nothing. she does not even really need to look pretty.  She can behave in most any manner she likes, be sassy, reject blokes for pleasure; nothing really matters.

In times past, sheilas were expected be adequate conversationalists.  After all, they supposedly valued relationships, and being good at conversation was part of that.  As were other traits like graciousness, not engaging in gossip, etc.  When put together in a nice package, these led to putting a bloke at ease when meeting for the first time (and subsequent times).  If young girls spent a fraction of the time that they spend on social media developing these skills, later life for them would be so much better.  So short answer — being your natural feral self is not enough.

I am not sure about the “fascinating” stuff mentioned above.  I think that blokes are not really interested in fascinating conversation with women.  Perhaps they more interested in conversation that flows and makes both sides feel at ease. Conversation that can lead to learning more about the other, toward building a relationship (once again, that is what the sheilas supposed want and are good at).

To summarize, in the modern day, blokes work to prepare and then take all of the risk; sheilas just sit there.  Think about that.

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48 comments on “Young Sheilas — Making It Easier For The Bloke
  1. Scott says:

    Boy, that post is reaching 500 comments and I have not had even a remote chance to digest it all. I have just been feverishly letting comments through.

    I had no idea it would be such a shitstorm. I was just kind of wondering about something outloud.

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  2. Yoda says:

    Try to answer many questions here this blog will

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  3. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Farm Boy,
    I wonder if present day young women can even socialize with young men. They would have to have something in common to talk about. The culture has done its best to see that they have as little in common as possible, to the point where they can eat the same food.
    Then, young women are encouraged to be as cruel as they can to young men. This ends up chasing away the ones who care in favor of the ones who don’t.
    As for Stephanie’s shy girls, how hard would it be to do a little research to find something to discuss that would interest a guy?

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  4. SFC Ton says:

    It’s one of those 3rd rail topics. And you pretty much know how the key players will come down on the various facets to the arugement


  5. SFC Ton says:

    I think the idea you should have something in common is setting people up for failure


  6. molly says:

    I ❤ the Stephanie word SNAG. Snag a husband LOL. It's a good word.

    I play tricks on the man. When he catches me out I snag him every time with my smile (heh heh)

    I practical joked on him the first time I saw him and SNAG!! Gottim eh.

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  7. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Molly!!! Burrito, burrito, burrito.

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  8. Yoda says:

    It’s one of those 3rd rail topics.

    What precisely the third rail topic it is?


  9. Yoda says:

    Wonder if Moehau Man Sheilas adept at conversation they are I do

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  10. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    If they are at all like Moe’s wise old Mum, they will use their words sparingly but profoundly.

    Don’t pee on the third rail.

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  11. Yoda says:

    The Chronicle hails Ms. Lopez as “The most beautiful Mayor in the world.”

    Ms. Lopez is a patriotic Brit. Asked about Gibraltar’s future, she replied:

    I am proud to be British.

    Gibraltar is British and always will be. Why would we ever want to change our flag?

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  12. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Perhaps the Spanish should be reminded that Trafalgar was not solely a defeat for the French?

    Liked by 3 people

  13. RichardP says:

    Fuzzie – thanks for the reminder. I had forgotten that I used to know the Motorcyle song. Nice to see the show is a family affair.

    Liked by 1 person

  14. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    “I don’t want a pickle.
    Just want to ride on my motorsickel.”


  15. SFC Ton says:

    Dibs on the mayor chick

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  16. Yoda says:

    Hillary run for NYC mayor she might
    And sixth most beautiful chick in the world she is

    Liked by 1 person

  17. Yoda says:

    Sveriges Television (SVT) Russia and central Asia correspondent Elin Jönsson wrote on Saturday that while authorities “know nothing yet about the motive” for the attack, “many young people in Uzbekistan are poor, and become easy prey for Islamist organisations.”

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  18. Yoda says:

    In a ridiculous discussion that sounded as though it belonged in a forum of a left-wing website, the panel on Sunday’s Meet the Press bemoaned how the country’s attitude towards women cost Hillary Clinton the White House. Moderator Chuck Todd read from the recent NYT column of Nicholas Kristof, who described Clinton’s idea of Trump voters as “I don’t agree with him, I’m not sure I really approve of him, but he looks like somebody who’s been president before.” Paraphrasing Clinton, Todd suggested that “she believed misogyny played a much larger role in this than it’s been analyzed by many of us.”

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  19. molly says:

    I snag cops! I climb off of my bike in my leathers and SNAG!!@ The cops sorta melt and don’t give me tickets even tho I was speeding LOL

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  20. molly says:

    My mum trained me, and family elders. We were trained to snag for generations back in the mists of time. We didn’t call it snag tho that’s what it was. We snag one man for life. We don’t re-snag eh. Only one man. Yall safe men!

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  21. Yoda says:

    “Re-snag” odd term it would be

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  22. Yoda says:

    Perhaps rational they are

    A prominent author has said some men who “transition” into women do it for frivolous reasons, as well as because women are increasing powerful in today’s society.


  23. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Molly!!! Burrito, burrito, burrito.
    What will you do if you “snag” a female cop?

    Feel sorry for New Yorkers I do.
    Hillary as mayor bad idea it would be.
    Last gasp of political career hope this is.


  24. molly says:

    This blog is a family affair! It’s Uncle S and granddad Bear and all you other cool men here!


  25. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Suitable antidote Scarlett Johansson no longer is.

    Going full feminist bad career idea it was.
    No longer bankable she is.
    Alienate core of loyal male fans she did.


  26. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Hugs for you, Molly. Too bad you can’t hug back. 😉


  27. SFC Ton says:

    I am a little disappointed I didn’t make the Hildabeast list

    I am bouyed by a Liz sighting of sorts. Hope all is well darling 😉

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  28. Farm Boy says:

    What kind of “sorts”?


  29. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    It’s everywhere from Westminster to Minnesota’s Capitol. Feminists are outing themselves as bigots.


  30. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Lauren Southern is scheduled to speak in Berkeley on the 15th. Considering how things went in the past, I expect it to be cancelled.
    For reference, these are real anitfascists. They might see the Berkeley version as lightweight wannabes.


  31. Yoda says:

    Based on a brainchild of one its students, Laguna Hills High School officials had the mirrors taken out of the school’s girls’ bathrooms … and replaced with notes of “affirmation.”

    The notes include little sayings such as “You are important” and “You are loved.”

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  32. Stephanie says:

    Fuzzie, I think that for the shy girls, it IS really really hard. It’s hard being a shy man too! Probably much harder actually the more I think about it, to be a shy man because y’all have the burden of needing to approach constantly, with lots of rejection to deal with.

    I was really shy lol… that book I mentioned was amazing because as a shy girl, I was able to read it, really digest it, and implement a lot of the things in it. And it’s beautiful too! We SHOULD be teaching our girls how to value men for being “masculine” – the whole first 200 pages of the book teach on that really alone. It teaches on character building, which is STILL something women that are older can benefit from – I go back to it from time to time.

    Love it! ❤

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  33. Stephanie says:

    LOL Molly!!!

    “I snag cops! I climb off of my bike in my leathers and SNAG!!@ The cops sorta melt and don’t give me tickets even tho I was speeding LOL”

    Haha, we call that being a “Badge Bunny” here!! Some police wives get really jealous! I like to joke with Patrick that I’m like his personal badge bunny ❤

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  34. Stephanie says:

    “she does not even really need to look pretty.” (Farmboy)

    Yea that book stresses that point a lot at the beginning. And it’s not about fascinating conversation (although it does go over how to at least converse and be knowledgeable about things)… it’s a lot more of how she makes one particular man feel and be drawn to her, etc. through lots of factors (a lot of it just comes down to the attitude of admiration and respect she has toward him).

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  35. Stephanie says:

    Someone brought up a few posts ago about courtesans and how they made men feel. It’s not that different.

    I knew a younger women from Australia that was a prostitute (sad backstory, but she was beautiful – at least at 23). She found my blog and was amazed that my stuff I was telling wives to do, is basically what she does for men. We had a lot of good conversations (I love her), and we both came to the conclusion that if wives were better wives to their husbands, there would be little to no need for prostitutes.

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  36. Yoda says:

    Christians in Sydney, Australia, are being advised to hide their crosses after an Arabic-speaking gang shouting “F*** Jesus!” attacked a couple on a train while transport officers looked on from a “safe space” and did nothing.

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  37. Yoda says:

    Highlighting the “hypocrisies” of what he called the “refugees welcome brigade” with regards to migration, Mateschitz said: “I am talking about the fact that none of the people shouting ‘refugees welcome’ or [Chancellor Angela Merkel’s famous phrase] ‘we can do it’ were preparing their own guest rooms or tents in their gardens to accommodate half a dozen migrants.

    “Even then it was clear to everyone that most of the people [arriving in the continent] did not correspond to the definition of the refugee. In any case, not the Geneva Convention”.

    “The elites want citizens to be frightened, and easily manipulated,” he added.


  38. Stephanie, can you share the title and author of the book? Sounds good!

    I would agree that girls are not being taught to utilize their feminine wiles, so to speak, anymore. For gals who don’t want to go the hookup culture route, they really do need to learn how to be charming, engaging, marriage worthy, and be actively putting themselves in situations where they will meet marriage-minded men.

    It’s not just about looks, the French are masters of this, they don’t believe beauty alone is enough, and that even an unattractive woman can play up her best features to her advantage. Look at Wallis Simpson, for example. Hardly a beauty and yet men could not get enough of her, the future king of England stepped down so he could marry her! (She was not the best wife, sadly, but that’s another story!)

    And like Stephanie and Liz, I think gals should try to pair up young, to someone they feel strongly attracted to, not to buy the “put off marriage” bit. Like musical chairs, the best ones go quick. So long as she’s mature enough to be a good wife, that is. (I sadly was not!) But I don’t think it’s an age thing so much as an attitude. My mom’s sister is nearly 70 and recently married to a very wealthy man and is making a fine mess of it w bs games! So teaching girls how to NOT destroy their own happiness w drama and such is impt. too.

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  39. P.s. I had a really interesting red pill conversation w my mom about my aunt, where I pointed out how she’s sabatoging herself and her happiness. And how foolish it is bc she has nothing to gain from it! My mom did a similar thing (immature games) when she remarried when I was 19, they lasted 8 years. The women in my family were taught screwy beliefs and I have really had to work to unlearn them and learn to “do and be different.” I wish I had access to red pill info earlier in life. I made many foolish mistakes, myself. But now I know! So I guess I am proof you can learn, if you want to learn!

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  40. Stephanie says:

    Bloom, it would be SO good for your daughters – I mean it’s not in any way perfect, and there’s some things in there I don’t agree with, but it’s like a goldmine of red pill wisdom that’s actually from the 1920’s that this lady recompiled into a late 60’s/early 70’s book.

    The Fascinating Girl by Helen Andelin, here is the amazon link ❤

    I've already suggested it to several men/women online for their daughters, one being the man who writes at biblicalgenderroles, and he and his daughter really love it. Hope you enjoy it!!

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  41. Yoda says:

    A new post there is


  42. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Your aunt wants to control the relationship and she will run it on the rocks before she accepts that some things are beyond her control.

    At least the shy ones aren’t out to damage the boys. All that I can say to them is that boys don’t bite and that it may be easier to approach them through common interests.


  43. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Having seen a few “gold digger prank” videos, I still wasn’t expecting this.


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