Invisible Young Women?


Stephanie previously stated,

Speaking of “Knowing what it is to be a bloke,” ….. this is an interesting thread of comments and concerns over young adult women who are *chaste* *modest* and *Christian* and yet are having a very hard time finding a marriage partner for some unknown reason.

These women know what it is like to be an invisible man:

https://americandadweb.wordpress.com/2017/03/23/june-cleaver-might-be-unmarriageble-right-now/

I thought about it after listening to Stefan’s talk with the 28 yr old, never married but WANTS to be married Christian woman (not fat)… I counted up 19 couples that my husband and I saw get married in college. It really needs to be stressed though that in our experience of seeing all these Christian couples find each other, MOST and I really do mean most, of them found their life partner in some kind of religious group on campus.

I feel sorry for Elspeth, she’s been complaining about this problem for the 3 1/2 years I’ve been reading the manosphere. But she says her daughters are still going to her church that she remarks has ZERO prospects for them (all the young adults “vanish” after high school).

That was my church when I was 18 as well. And when I saw that there were like 6 people from high school that stayed around (and mostly girls and no prospects really), I LEFT. I traveled all around town to about 9 different churches during that time to find a good college group where there were LOTS of singles my age. It really does take a good bit of discernment of if you’re in the right place at the right time (why stay where there are ZERO prospects for yourself?).

This is a bit of an odd phenomenon.  Probably the largest aspect is that what was once long ago a primary market for people to meet has now become a very small market.   It is much more difficult to find the product that you want in such a market.  What used to just happen now takes effort and clever planning.  This is apparently what Stephanie did.

This is the start of a series analyzing this situation.  It is intellectually interesting to try to figure out what the problems are along with possible solutions.  Though I do wonder if people will implement my proposed solutions.

I will say that it would have been appreciated if the young women had put in some effort.  Placing all of the onus on the fella to make things happen gets old fast, leading a guy to consider other uses for his time and resources.  Put in some effort young women.

So put on your thinking cap, as these issues will be dissected in this series with INTJ precision.

 

Addendum by Deti,

Farm Boy:

“This is a bit of an odd phenomenon. Probably the largest aspect is that what was once long ago a primary market for people to meet has now become a very small market. It is much more difficult to find the product that you want in such a market. What used to just happen now takes effort and clever planning. This is apparently what Stephanie did.”

“This is the start of a series analyzing this situation. It is intellectually interesting to try to figure out what the problems are along with possible solutions. Though I do wonder if people will implement my proposed solutions.”

I’m probably getting ahead of you. And you’ve seen my thoughts and those of others. Let me share them here:

First, we all need to keep in mind the context in which this is being discussed. The population under discussion is chaste Christian women in the US who are marriage minded and who are at least TRYING to remain chaste and making a good faith, hard effort to avoid having premarital sex. That’s a very different population from what’s usually discussed, which are either

(1) hardcore cock carousel riders/sluts, who go home with a different guy about every month, and change out men like toothbrushes; or

(2) the typical “script followers” who practice garden variety serial monogamy: Lose virginity to first serious Boyfriend in high school, have a couple serious ones in college with a few flings and one nighters interspersed in there, then grad school where there is The One (who later is not), and then work, with a few more false starts for a few years, and parachuting into marriage to a beta cuck at age 28 who she divorces at 39 with two kids. Red Pill 101.

Keep all that in mind based on the quote you’ve used. That tiny population of chaste Christian women is really not the one you and this commentariat is likely to address.

Iv’e moderated my views a bit on this issue. I have said that women can pretty much get whatever they want when they want. I’ve said that because the system is set up for just that objective, to get women what they want, be it one nighters to lifelong marriage to lifetime support after divorcing. I’ve also said that because it’s been my experience. I now think that’s a regional thing. Where I’m from (the American Midwest) that’s how it usually plays out. She might not marry the richest or hottest man. She might not marry the kindest man. But if it’s marriage she wants, she can get married, and usually to a man of her rough SMV counterpart or a bit higher. From reports, this is just not the experience women are reporting at least in the manosphere.

I have no reason to believe Elspeth is being dishonest or disingenuous here. I believe her daughters have had a bad time trying to find suitable, marriageable, sexually attractive men. I believe that her daughters and girls like them are going to have it even rougher than unchaste, promiscuous women. And that is going to continue for a long time. The best things that small population of women can do are

(1) enlist help from all quarters: Fathers, brothers, uncles, other relatives, and extended family and friends in the network of like minded people raising chaste Christian men and women.

(2) Be much more proactive in putting themselves out there in meeting chaste Christian men, and in being a wee bit more forward and (I hate this word, but i’ll use it) INTENTIONAL in meeting and talking to men. These chaste Christian men need to be hit over the head with IOI 2 x 4s. They need assurances they aren’t going to be falsely accused of anything or used or nuked in church. They need assurances that if she’s not interested it will end quickly and DISCREETLY. They also need to be shown that the women in front of them are truly sexually attracted to them, and shown in a way that is crystal clear.

3) Realize that what they want is pretty much the same thing as their nonChristian peers do. They want to meet and marry confident, dominant, good looking, competent men with a future and a mission who will not put up with bullshit. That’s a HUGE problem, because there are almost no men like this in American churches today. And if they are, they have the pick of the litter.

4) Improve their physical appearances and don’t neglect them. Chaste Christian men want pretty, thin, nonbitchy women with as little baggage and as few hangups as possible.

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115 comments on “Invisible Young Women?
  1. Scott says:

    Thanks for the linkback.

    [Spawny – Sorry about the delayed approval of your comment. I’m on UK time, I just got started on the day. Any subsequent comments will go straight through]

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  2. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I remember Stephanie’s comment and I responded to it. Churches used to be good for meeting people. They are no longer. The story that I keep hearing is that if it doesn’t work out, the whole congregation knows. Add to that, the smaller ones will not offer anything for singles. they will refer them to internet dating sites, a topic that I shouldn’t broach. From my position, it looks like there has been a concerted effort to kill all venues for singles to meet. All that men can find are stuck up, hypergamous witches that won’t talk to them and the girls complain that the boys are after only one thing. In this respect, I don’t see much difference between Christian dating and secular dating.

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  3. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I am sorry for Elspeth and her daughters, but, at least, they can take comfort in that it is easier for a woman to find a motivated man than the other way around.

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  4. Yoda says:

    Perhaps also do a comparable series for young men one should

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  5. Yoda says:

    Yes, always easier for women it is

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  6. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Perhaps, stagger them? That way both will conclude simultaneously.

    I was worried that I was hogging the thread. It must be quiet everywhere. .

    I saw something at Return of Kings that I don’t completely agree with, but it goes a long way to explaining “the thirst”.
    http://www.returnofkings.com/118192/softcore-pornography-has-become-completely-normalized-in-western-society
    Men are constantly bombarded with sexualized input that has nothing to do with the product being promoted.

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  7. Yoda says:

    Young women matter!
    Young men matter!

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  8. Yoda says:

    Note that “they do” at the end of the sentences added I should

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  9. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Farm Boy,
    As for a solution, I don’t think Western women will meet men halfway. However, they could at least show some respect for a venue where interested singles could meet. They may not see this while they are young, but there are older women who would like a shot at meeting men. Also, women who just moved to the area may like that option too.
    I have to concur. Men do get more than a little tired of taking all the risk initially. The idea of reading a good book or watching a god movie on Saturday night is appealing in that it is not a risk.
    Perhaps, most of this can be laid at the feet of online dating and social media. Women get their egos pumped up through social media and with online dating, set their floor at the top one percent of men, or narrower. Then, men counter with sending out hundreds of one line messages or swiping right to everyone. This won’t end well.
    Aaron Clarey has said that women are getting all the attention that they can handle with social media and men are getting all the free porn they can watch. They are both substitutes and, again, this will not end well.

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  10. RichardP says:

    Speak softly and carry a big stick. Use it unexpectly when appropriate.

    Good advice for presidents and young folks.

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  11. Spawny Get says:

    How time flies. 27 years ago this was a comedy show. The white helmets won an Oscar recently, didn’t they?

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  12. Spawny Get says:

    Not to be beaten in the fake news department by an old comedy show, the BBC steps up its game

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  13. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    And to think that this was once considered cynical.

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  14. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    The video at 6:56am should have put the BBC out of business. You linked it when it was fresh. Still, nothing has been done, with the exception of Marine Le Pen insulting an interviewer. People can forgive mistakes, this is something else.

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  15. Spawny Get says:

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  16. Choicy says:

    Trump steer clear of Alice in blunderland mate. Trump don’t jump on the fucking ridiculous Arab Spring bandwagon blidiots. Join Russia and Assad to wipe out hizzbuylah and isis mate. Plain as the nose on your face.

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  17. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    Would this be in reference to the 59 Tomahawk missiles launched at Syria? What if one of them hits an ISIS weapons cache where nerve gas is stored?

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  18. Spawny Get says:

    Fuzz, yes it is about the tomahawks. WTF?

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  19. Spawny Get says:

    Choicy, yeah. Don’t like the news this morning (my morning that is).

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  20. Choicy says:

    Bloody Nora how dumb can you get. I bet my bottom dollar USA’s plan post Assad is typical democracy crap.

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  21. Spawny Get says:

    Not sure that I’m quite with him but…

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  22. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I can see the guys on the receiving end of those Tomahawks. They will see them as cowardly and want payback. There will be no time limit.
    As for Trump, he can submit to reason. Someone has to give him a good presentation.

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  23. Spawny Get says:

    The current UKIP leader (I’m not a huge fan) gets something right (as his party falls apart)

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  24. Spawny Get says:

    The BBC has now (after the tomahawk strike) NOW started calling the cause of the strike an ‘alleged’ gas attack

    quisquose00 SaltPetre • 5 minutes ago
    On Toady the chemical attack was repeatedly referred to as “alleged”. Where was that caution two days ago?

    Also Nick Robinson spoke to some guy who was deeply sceptical that Assad was behind the chemical attack. Again, where was that two days ago?

    ‘Toady’ = the arselicking BBC’s Today show on the radio news channel
    Nick is an editor of some sort ion the ABBC

    It looks like they want it both ways. They want the strike but they want to screw Trump for ordering the strike…so far. We shall see.

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  25. Spawny Get says:

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  26. Spawny Get says:

    “The President of Russia regards the US airstrikes on Syria as an act of aggression against a sovereign state delivered in violation of international law under a far-fetched pretext. The Syrian Army has no chemical weapons. The fact of the destruction of all Syrian chemical weapons’ stockpiles has been recorded and verified by the OPCW, a specialised UN body. Vladimir Putin believes that complete disregard for factual information about the use by terrorists of chemical weapons drastically aggravates the situation.”
    http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/54241

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  27. Spawny Get says:

    There’s an eight hour show that precedes this one (which I haven’t seen).

    I’m an hour in and it seems rather sane and balanced

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  28. Choicy says:

    Spawny you might collect some flack here mate for our opinions and it pains me to say I leaving you to it mate. Mate you can rely on this humble digger to back you boots and all asap mate. Hang on in there mate. I’ll be back.

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  29. Spawny Get says:

    Sleep well, Choicy. They’re only my opinions. Show me evidence that is credible and I’ll change them. In the meantime stop fucking bombing people over not credible shite in the media. Show me the meat

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  30. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I had a terrible thought. If ISIS has their hands on or access to Sarin, They could wreak horrible devastation in the first world if they could deploy it.
    Glad that I didn’t eat spicy pizza.

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  31. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    The problem I see is that both good marriage prospects and bad marriage prospects say and do exactly the same things when they are pursuing marriage. You don’t find out until after marriage whether you bet on the right horse.

    With the likelihood of divorce being a coin toss, and the likelihood of a painful, antagonistic marriage being higher than that, I don’t understand why there’s confusion over why it’s difficult to get men to tie that millstone around their neck. My confusion is over why there are still so many men that still do. My guess is bad intel. At least, that was what led me into the kill zone.

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  32. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    As far as Trump and Syria go, I’m holding off on judgement for now. News sources I don’t trust are saying Syria was using chemical weapons, and news sources I don’t trust are telling me they didn’t. I can understand the argument that we should discourage the use of the various strains of WMD to prevent their proliferation, and I understand the weaknesses in that thinking.

    I WILL say the folks cheering Trump’s decision to strike are folks that make me question whether this was a good decision, and I hope Trump won’t get derailed into resuming our role as World Police.

    Ultimately, though I don’t trust Trump, I don’t distrust him as much as the other actors on stage. That will change as needed, but I’m not ready to write him off yet.

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  33. Spawny Get says:

    CP, that sounds about where I am at too-ish

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  34. thedeti says:

    Hillary Still Doesn’t Get It:

    “The former Democratic presidential candidate cited Russian meddling in the election, FBI Director James Comey’s involvement toward the end of the race, WikiLeaks theft of emails from her campaign chairman, and misogyny.”

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/hillary-clinton-explains-why-she-really-lost-to-trump/ar-BBzvnN0?li=BBnb7Kz

    No, Illary.

    You lost because juuuust enough people were sick and tired of the likes of you calling them racists, sexists, homophobes and bigots.

    That, and turnout in Philly, Detroit and Milwaukee didn’t come out for you.

    Because you’re not black.

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  35. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    In our little corner of the internet, the condemnation of Trump is nearly universal and unforgiving. The exception is Vox Day, who has a theory that he won’t share.

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  36. thedeti says:

    DP:

    “I don’t understand why there’s confusion over why it’s difficult to get men to tie that millstone around their neck. My confusion is over why there are still so many men that still do. My guess is bad intel. At least, that was what led me into the kill zone.”

    I don’t think it’s bad intel anymore, if the “intel” you’re talking about is whether marriage is a good deal for men. With the interwebz, the divorce rates, etc., men who don’t know marriage sucks for men aren’t paying attention. There’s no excuse for it anymore . Any man who doesn’t know that has only himself to blame.

    When you and I got married, there was no internet, no manosphere, no blogosphere, and no one talking about how shitty marriage is. There were only pickup “manuals” you could order from ads in the back pages of Hustler and Penthouse; and maybe the “bitter divorced guy” from down the street or who got kicked out of your church. “Don’t listen to him. He’s a bitter asshole. Plus he’s divorced so he probably deserved it.”

    Now, there is a wealth of info at one’s fingertips. No excuse not to use it.

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  37. Spawny Get says:

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  38. thedeti says:

    You still married, CP?

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  39. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    Deti, I certainly agree that good info is much easier to find nowadays. And I would guess it’s increasingly difficult to not know a guy you respect who’s been frivorced (with all the potential for red pill revelations that go with it).
    However, the gas lighting and real men telling everyone the foolproof way to a happy marriage are still going strong. If anything, the volume has been turned up in response to red pill info being easier to find.
    I agree that men our age have little excuse not to be clued in, and there’s an increasing number of younger men who grew up with the fallout of broken marriages, single mothers, etc. that are much less naive than we were at their age. I guess I’m mainly thinking of young men growing up inside the blue bubble.
    How many men still think church is a good place to meet virtuous women, for example? The answer is too many.
    On the bright side, with women pushing marriage out into their thirties, it’s giving men a better chance to be clued in before they walk off the cliff.

    You know what? I talked myself into agreeing with your point. I guess my quibble is there are still people out there selling soap. And the obvious response is, “Duh.”

    Yes, I’m still married. I doubt my part in the relationship will ever rise above studied indifference, but time will tell.

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  40. Spawny Get says:

    First men, now boys are going their own way (WINNING!)

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  41. Yoda says:

    STOCKHOLM — A large beer truck crashed into an upscale department store in central Stockholm on Friday, killing at least two people, according to Swedish Prime Minister Stefan Lofven.

    “Sweden has been attacked,” Lofven said in a nationally televised press conference. “This indicates that it is an act of terror.”

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/stockholm-sweden-truck-reported-attack-dead-and-injured/

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  42. Yoda says:

    “We know that we need to do more to ensure that women are equally valuing ourselves,” Chelsea offers, sagely, to Millennials. “And we need to change the social norms and cultures within employers so that women are equally valued.”

    https://heatst.com/politics/chelsea-clinton-doles-out-advice-on-success-despite-never-having-had-any/

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  43. Yoda says:

    The interior ministry of North Rhine-Westphalia is warning police officers to be prepared for potential stabbing attacks from sympathisers of Islamic State.

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/04/07/german-region-warns-police-potential-islamic-state-stabbing-attacks/

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  44. Yoda says:

    Actor Shia LaBeouf reportedly got into a screaming match with another person at an L.A. bowling alley Wednesday night, calling the other bowler a “f*cking racist” before staff asked him to leave, according to a report.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2017/04/06/shia-labeouf-goes-off-bowling-alley-fcking-racist/

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  45. Choicy says:

    “worlds-most-beautiful-women-of-2017”

    Speaking of which I haven’t noticed wee molly hereabouts for a bit. Struth she’d knock all those “beauties” into a cocked hat mate. All a digger does is fly over the Tasman to see worlds-most-beautiful-women all in one place. Her and all her cuzzies mate. This reminds me to check the price of a one way ticket to the land of the long white cloud nine. Only trouble is they are all taken mate. Fair dinkum their grannies are better than any of those “beauties” on that list. Ah I’m off to me lonely bed.

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  46. SFC Ton says:

    Those whatever sexiest lists are PR campaigns and not a reflection of reality or based on choices people make

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  47. Yoda says:

    Those whatever sexiest lists are PR campaigns and not a reflection of reality or based on choices people make

    When Hillary number six she is,
    obvious this would be

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  48. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    When Hillary number six

    Sometimes, methane gets in the pipe for the gas light.

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  49. thedeti says:

    RE: The op:

    Farm Boy:

    “This is a bit of an odd phenomenon. Probably the largest aspect is that what was once long ago a primary market for people to meet has now become a very small market. It is much more difficult to find the product that you want in such a market. What used to just happen now takes effort and clever planning. This is apparently what Stephanie did.”

    “This is the start of a series analyzing this situation. It is intellectually interesting to try to figure out what the problems are along with possible solutions. Though I do wonder if people will implement my proposed solutions.”

    I’m probably getting ahead of you. And you’ve seen my thoughts and those of others. Let me share them here:

    First, we all need to keep in mind the context in which this is being discussed. The population under discussion is chaste Christian women in the US who are marriage minded and who are at least TRYING to remain chaste and making a good faith, hard effort to avoid having premarital sex. That’s a very different population from what’s usually discussed, which are either

    (1) hardcore cock carousel riders/sluts, who go home with a different guy about every month, and change out men like toothbrushes; or

    (2) the typical “script followers” who practice garden variety serial monogamy: Lose virginity to first serious Boyfriend in high school, have a couple serious ones in college with a few flings and one nighters interspersed in there, then grad school where there is The One (who later is not), and then work, with a few more false starts for a few years, and parachuting into marriage to a beta cuck at age 28 who she divorces at 39 with two kids. Red Pill 101.

    Keep all that in mind based on the quote you’ve used. That tiny population of chaste Christian women is really not the one you and this commentariat is likely to address.

    Iv’e moderated my views a bit on this issue. I have said that women can pretty much get whatever they want when they want. I’ve said that because the system is set up for just that objective, to get women what they want, be it one nighters to lifelong marriage to lifetime support after divorcing. I’ve also said that because it’s been my experience. I now think that’s a regional thing. Where I’m from (the American Midwest) that’s how it usually plays out. She might not marry the richest or hottest man. She might not marry the kindest man. But if it’s marriage she wants, she can get married, and usually to a man of her rough SMV counterpart or a bit higher. From reports, this is just not the experience women are reporting at least in the manosphere.

    I have no reason to believe Elspeth is being dishonest or disingenuous here. I believe her daughters have had a bad time trying to find suitable, marriageable, sexually attractive men. I believe that her daughters and girls like them are going to have it even rougher than unchaste, promiscuous women. And that is going to continue for a long time. The best things that small population of women can do are

    (1) enlist help from all quarters: Fathers, brothers, uncles, other relatives, and extended family and friends in the network of like minded people raising chaste Christian men and women.

    (2) Be much more proactive in putting themselves out there in meeting chaste Christian men, and in being a wee bit more forward and (I hate this word, but i’ll use it) INTENTIONAL in meeting and talking to men. These chaste Christian men need to be hit over the head with IOI 2 x 4s. They need assurances they aren’t going to be falsely accused of anything or used or nuked in church. They need assurances that if she’s not interested it will end quickly and DISCREETLY. They also need to be shown that the women in front of them are truly sexually attracted to them, and shown in a way that is crystal clear.

    3) Realize that what they want is pretty much the same thing as their nonChristian peers do. They want to meet and marry confident, dominant, good looking, competent men with a future and a mission who will not put up with bullshit. That’s a HUGE problem, because there are almost no men like this in American churches today. And if they are, they have the pick of the litter.

    4) Improve their physical appearances and don’t neglect them. Chaste Christian men want pretty, thin, nonbitchy women with as little baggage and as few hangups as possible.

    Part II to come.

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  50. thedeti says:

    And, of course, it doesnt’ help chaste Christian women that the chaste Christian men they are around and that they meet, are not attractive. And one of the reasons they are unattractive is that they’re chaste. Another reason they’re unattractive is they have very little confidence in being around, leading, and overall handling relationships with, women.

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  51. I am not happy about this ME thing… How could he fall for it?

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  52. SFC Ton says:

    Trump was in a corner over the gas attack deal and I am not sure he had a lot of options

    Trump’s re-election will be based on jobs and immigration more then anything else

    Given those two things, $60 million in cuirse missiles with no American kia is pretty cheap price

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  53. SFC Ton says:

    Pretty much any woman can get married at any time if she is willing to back off her checklist.

    I ain’t saying she’ll get a virginal Chad-Thundercock prince charming type but she can catch a husband.

    Nothing I have read has changed my position on that. Marriage matters and they get married or tIngles matter and they won’t.

    Binary thinking I know.

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  54. Well I just hope it doesn’t lead exactly where hrc wanted it to go…

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  55. Cill says:

    “virginal Chad-Thundercock prince charming type”

    BWAHAHAHAHA!

    I actually know some benighted bints irl who really do expect a bloke of that ilk to magically appear in their lives any day soon. It would be tragic if it wasn’t so bloody funny.

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  56. Yoda says:

    Screen legend Sir Michael Caine weighed in on Britain’s decision last year to separate from the European Union, saying his own vote to leave was about “freedom.”

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2017/04/07/michael-caine-brexit-was-about-freedom/

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  57. Yoda says:

    Doe goes on to argue the Department of Education’s infamous 2011 “Dear Colleague” letter, which forced colleges to lower the evidence standard in sexual misconduct investigations and strip accused students of procedural protections, turned Yale into a “state agent.”

    https://www.thecollegefix.com/post/31954/

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  58. Yoda says:

    Trucks have mind of their own they do

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  59. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    Huh. Ira Hayes. There are worse.

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  60. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    CP,
    Ira Hayes, the Marine who received the Medal of Honor for helping raise the flag on MT. Suribachi? Would died an alcoholic?

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  61. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    What was missing from the Shia le Bouef video was the sound of a screaming frog in the backround. “REEEEEEEEEE!”

    It is amazing what the mainstream media will do to deflect attention from these murderers. Now, trucks drive themselves.

    i hope that #6 is not invisible. I want to see her coming and run the other way.

    There is something weird about ISIS. If they have access to to exotic weapons such as nerve gas or chemical weapons, why are they encouraging their moles to use improvised weapons such as stolen trucks or attack police with knives?

    If they make a habit out of attacking policemen with knives, I don’t think that may will survive arrest. Especially if cops know that judges will let them out on the street the next day.

    For those who don’t know Elspeth, her daughters are probably wonderful but the whole family is Black. American Black people are culturally different and their SMP/MMP is much more messed up that that of white people. That difference may be enough to sideline them.

    I think what chaste Christian girls want is the same as what carousel riders want. they want to have a good time and convert their boyfriend to a husband in the fullness of time. As for the church boys, they have been beaten into being beta all their lives by family, church, and school. Women want to be served by betas because they are unthreatening, but won’t have sexual relations with them. Information relative to this has been withheld from the church boys. All they can see is an exercise in futility with girls and women.

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  62. Watch the reporter try to cut him off when he’s not supporting the CNN narrative, lol!

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  63. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Bloom,
    CNN has taken to doing that a lot. I saw another one in which they did it to Bernie Sanders.

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  64. Stephanie says:

    Been thinking on this topic still as I’ve agreed with a few of the commenters at Scott’s… been busy this week coordinating our giant Easter Egg hunt for police officers’ children tomorrow 😀 Really fun stuff but exhausting when you’re 7 months pregnant and getting huge!

    “What used to just happen now takes effort and clever planning.” (Farmboy)

    Yes! It really really does. And you have to take into account that these girls are in direct competition with all the other girls there even if none of them realize it or not. It would be harder if her twins are shy, don’t drive themselves around but instead are chaperoned by Elspeth everywhere, aren’t going to places (college groups specifically) where the single Christian men are, etc. All that (to me) sounds frankly like an impossible set up to meet single Christian men in.

    And I know y’all really like Elspeth, but WOW is she ever really odd at times. When we were going through a really hard time with just several things going wrong at once – my car leaving me and our young boys stranded for hours at a time, Patrick’s truck being smashed into on Father’s day of all days, Police Officers being assassinated every other week or so randomly, and being emotional and terrified for Patrick 😥 , lgrobins over at her blog Two Bird Stone wrote a particularly nasty piece actually mocking me for asking for prayers for our family during that time. Elspeth was right there with her in the comments of that post claiming I didn’t know what real trials were… :/ it was hard to believe. We were going through a lot though, and I think that’s when it hit me that I couldn’t care less what she thought of me asking for prayers for our family.

    I do still feel sorry for her that she hasn’t solved this problem for years, but I’m sure they’ll get married eventually.

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  65. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I think what Elspeth is telling us is not so much about her daughters but about the SMP/MMP it self. It is going to affect the periphery first and it will seize.

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  66. Cill says:

    RE Syria, my understanding is:

    Trump held discussions with leaders of Sunni countries, Saudi Arabia and Egypt and Jordan, who are no friends of Shia Iran and Syria. Those discussions went down well with those countries. The strike on the Syria airport was a message to those countries in particular and the world in general that this President, unlike Obama, is not a man of empty words.

    Also, the discussions as emphasized by the missile strike could have the effect of isolating the Shia crescent. Trump is getting a lot of international support for the missile strike.

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  67. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Cill,
    that is the first positive comment that I have read about this story. Choicy was saying he was missing Molly, so here is some bait.

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  68. Cill says:

    Fuzzie I rode a Vincent Black Shadow when I was a toddler… sitting on the tank with my great granddad behind me at the controls. And he really gunned it, or I thought he did. The noise of the engine impressed me greatly.

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  69. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Cill,
    I have never seen one. I have only heard about them. I think one still holds a Bonneville speed record.

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  70. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    That must have been quite an experience for a toddler. As Molly says, Ka-vrooom!

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  71. Cill says:

    “that is the first positive comment that I have read about this story”

    I’m not really positive about it. I think Western countries should stay out of the middle east. I worked there for a while. They are too backward to be helped. As for democracy, forget it. Those who think Egypt has democracy are in cloud loo-la land.

    For me, Trump has an unfortunate presentation. He comes across as a man more driven by impressions and emotion than reason. “Lovely” this and “fantastic” that and “wonderful” something else. In the case of the missiles, I think he was thinking rationally. I don’t agree with him getting America more involved than they already are, but I sure do wish him well.

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  72. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Cill,
    I don’t know what to think, other than we seem to have the reverse Midas touch when we meddle in things foreign. One of the few things we did right was to refuse to build the Aswan Dam on the recommendation of the Army Corps of Engineers.

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  73. RichardP says:

    Trump had the President of China in his compound when he gave the go-ahead for the missle launch. The same President he has been encouraging to do something about North Korea. The same President for whom were meant the words spoken by Secretary of State Rex Tillerson in response to the most recent missle launch by NK: “… The United States has spoken enough about North Korea. We have no further comment.”

    i would guess that the missle launch was for the benefit of the President of China: “Do something about North Korea, or we will. Look at what we can do”.

    Pictures of children dead from being gassed the last time Syria gassed it’s citizens were made public then. But President Trump continued to proclaim that we shouldn’t get involved in Syria’s affairs. So I doubt that the pictures this time actually changed his mind (but maybe they did since he is the one in charge now). Rather, I think he took advantage of the opportunity to send the Chinese President (and maybe North Korea also) a graphic message. Git er done, or we will.

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  74. Spawny Get says:

    Grand National today

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  75. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    I hope that he can calm down. It was an excellent practical joke that will be remembered for decades.
    While we are on the subject of horse racing, what gives with this? Cill linked another event in Australia with the same outcome. Do they start drinking at 9am and by 3pm they are blotto?
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4389832/Aintree-racegoers-dress-nines-Ladies-Day.html?ito=social-facebook

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  76. SFC Ton says:

    If memory serves Ira Hayes raised the second, larger flag when it was safe

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  77. Spawny Get says:

    The problem, or one of them.

    I agree that Trump may be doing something that is incredibly smart in some ways. We may never know. But what he has done is very bad in others.

    And note that this is the ABBC that had decided after the strike (and only after the strike) that something is fishy. Before the strike all the BBC was pushing was ‘Assad did it’.

    The bent media wants it both ways; whip up hysterical feelz over an atrocity and slag off any non-lefty response to their hysteria.

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  78. SFC Ton says:

    LOL those old school kick start bikes were a major pain in the ass.

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  79. Yoda says:

    The above two go together they do

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  80. Spawny Get says:

    Joey Edgecombe • 5 minutes ago
    Emailed to me, unknown origin:

    I took down my Rebel flag(which you can’t buy on EBAY any more) and peeled the NRA sticker off my front window. I disconnected my home alarm system and quit the candy-ass Neighborhood Watch. I bought two Pakistani flags and put one at each corner of the front yard. Then I purchased the black flag of ISIS (which you CAN Buy on EBAY) and ran it up the flag pole.

    Now the local police, sheriff, FBI, CIA, NSA, Homeland Security, Secret Service and other agencies are all watching my house 24/7. I’ve NEVER felt safer and I’m saving $69.95 a month that ADT used to charge me.

    Plus, I bought burkas for me to wear when I shop or travel. Everyone moves out of the way, and security can’t pat me down. If they say I’m a male wearing a burka, I just say I’m feeling like a woman today.

    Hot Damn…Safe at last.

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  81. Yoda says:

    A woman from the Bronx has been banned from Uber for life after she threatened to accuse a driver of rape for kicking her out of his car.

    https://heatst.com/life/woman-banned-from-uber-for-life-after-threatening-to-falsely-accuse-driver-of-rape/

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  82. Yoda says:

    INK BOTTLE“Outrage is a substitute for religion: It convinces us that our existence has some kind of meaning or significance beyond itself, that is to say beyond the paltry flux of day-to-day existence, especially when that existence is a securely comfortable one. Therefore we go looking for things to be outraged about as anteaters look for ants. Of all emotions, outrage is not only one of the most pleasurable but also one of the most reliable.”

    Theodore Dalrymple, “Better Left Unsaid” (Taki’s Magazine, Dec. 31, 2016, courtesy of Patrick Kurp)

    http://www.artsjournal.com/aboutlastnight/2017/04/almanac-theodore-dalrymple-on-outrage.html

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  83. Yoda says:

    Young Somalis in Mecklenburg-West Pomerania have “demolished” their kitchen and living quarters during a violent “rampage” in which they demanded PlayStations and more pocket money.

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/04/07/child-refugees-rampage-game-consoles/

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  84. Scott says:

    Leading up to the election, I predicted a Trump win while not actually voting. I wrote about my rationale for leaving the electorate several times. I am not a big “I told you so” kind of guy, but there were some indicators that this (or something like it) would happen sooner or later.

    Candidate Trump went to great lengths during that period to distance himself from the alt-right/alt-lite. The most stark example was on the issue of holding women accountable for abortions should it ever become illegal.

    The problems of cultural degradation, heterogeneity and what I call “peak subjectivity” cannot be solved by one elected official. If I was ever going to start a hashtag, it would be:

    #nopresidentcansaveus

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  85. SFC Ton says:

    I did vote for Trump but I am enough of a grown up to know he isn’t alt-right and that he is going to fuck up all the time

    He’ll be re-elected based on immigration and jobs, which both seem to be going his way

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  86. Scott says:

    SFC Ton-

    For those who voted for him because he thought he was going to usher in some reclaiming of America’s heyday, I would have argued against it. The best, positive spin I could have put on voting would have been something like this:

    “Who would you like to manage a declining empire?”

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  87. Yoda says:

    Not Hillary Trump is

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  88. SFC Ton says:

    Yeah Scott, voting for Trump is a holding action, giving White folks extra time to get ready for the ugly.

    Anyone thinking we as a nation can avoid the hurt locker is delusional

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  89. Farm Boy says:

    There is a new post

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  90. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda at 3:51pm,
    That is San Francisco in the background and the Confederate general was from Big Sur.

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  91. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    About the Uber guy, if he didn’t have an in cab camera, he’s be in jail. If the video hadn’t gone viral, he’d be fired.
    I don’t want to be an Uber driver.

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