Just Give In


Over at Dalrock’s, we find this,

Dalrock: “Geraghty offers statistics that most divorces are for reasons other than infidelity, abuse, or addiction.  He then offers his personal theory on what is causing the lion’s share of divorce:”

…my divorced friends say that fighting rarely resolved an issue.  And maybe that was the problem.  There are four ways couples respond to conflict:  he concedes, she concedes, they compromise, or it gets swept under the rug.  That last option might be the easiest, but it’s a short-term solution at best.  Each time you sweep a difficult issue under the metaphorical rug of your day-to-day interaction in your marriage, that rug gets a little harder to walk on.  Resentments build.  Eventually, the issue you’re fighting about stops being the real issue;  the real issue becomes your inability to resolve any other issue.

Dalrock: “Geraghty explains that the problem of the risk of divorce can be resolved by threats of divorce.  More specifically, he argues that a marriage can be improved by the wife threatening to nuke the husband out of the family if she doesn’t get her way (emphasis mine):”

The D-word can actually help a marriage full of conflict.  It can be a great clarifier.  Using the D-word is the DEFCON Two of marriage.  (DEFCON is short for defense readiness condition, the alert state for the U.S. armed forces.  DEFCON Five is the calmest, DEFCON One is the most severe, basically meaning nuclear war is imminent.)  When your spouse uses the D-word, it is a screaming alarm klaxon that asks you just how much you care about whatever it is you’re fighting about at the moment.

Is it worth divorcing your wife over?

Put that starkly, most of the day-to-day problems in a marriage don’t look that bad.  If you can back down from that moment, you’ve endured your marital equivalent of the Cuban Missile Crisis.  John F. Kennedy’s 1963 point about the basic common links with the Soviets applies to most warring spouses:  “We all breathe the same air.  We all cherish our children’s future.  And we are all mortal.”

So the solution is simple.  Just give in to the wife.  It is true, it is simple to do.  It relieves stress in the short run.  Perhaps that is why fellas often do it.  Calm the waters and live another day.

Yet, there are several questions raised.

I.  What about compromise?  Is it not sometimes a game of “give and take”?

But then again, that is a 1960’s song.  Things have changed since then.  Which brings us to the next question

II.  Why is it assumed that she is either “always right” or she should always “have her way”?  Probably this starts as Dalrock suggests with the threat of divorce ruination for the husband.  Of course, this is just the mechanics behind it.  What is driving it?   There is the concept that women are wonderful; thus what they want to do is the better thing to do.  How could these virtuous beings, who care so much for the children, ever contemplate anything selfish?  If you look closely, the answer is rather easily.

But perhaps the bigger reason is entitlement.  They are fed near fatal doses of self-esteem as children.  Then they grow up and realize what power they have over males.  They are not held to the standards and rules of the days of old, or of the men that they are supposedly aping.  Indulging parents give them most anything that they want.

Of course, most young men are held to standards, are not indulged, and learn that they must work to make it through life.  The bible promises this; they are still held to it.

And then, of course, there are the women’s fellingz.  Enough said.

Can an entitled woman ever find happiness?

 

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119 comments on “Just Give In
  1. Yoda says:

    Women unhappy unless led they are
    Modern women can be led not
    So conclusion would be?

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  2. Spawny Get says:

    MGTOW baby! Yeah!

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  3. Spawny Get says:

    I’d say it was this kind of thing that played a part in ending my marriage. Mother in law ruled my wife’s childhood home. When she tried changing our marriage I wouldn’t budge on important issues because usually I was right, she was wrong.

    I can’t imagine how much worse modern women can be. My ex-wife would be pushing fifty soon. Things were not nearly so bad in society back then.

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  4. SFC Ton says:

    I can’t believe people are still making posts out of of such routine blue pill bullshit

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  5. Yoda says:

    Ton,

    Always new people coming by there are.
    Educated they must be

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  6. Yoda says:

    Write some good MGTOW posts Cill and the Glorious Patriarch should

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  7. Cill says:

    There’s nothing wrong with this post.

    I’ll see what I can come up with. As time goes by, I find I’m spending more and more time with the young blokes I try to help out. Consequently I’m spending less time on the blog. I couldn’t be anywhere near as prolific as FB. One thing I could write about is the real life cases I come across, but there are difficulties. I’m going to try to take some of the load off FB.

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  8. Cill says:

    FWIW this blog has been helpful for young blokes I know IRL.

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  9. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Farm Boy,
    “Can an entitled woman ever find happiness?”
    The short answer to that is no. What you outlined in your post is the roadmap that women use to subordinate their husbands, and having done that, lose attraction for them, leading them to blow up their marriage. From a practical standpoint, any method that a man would resort to to assert himself would be seen as abuse in court. Women have pretty much all they have asked for and it’s not going to work out too well. Ironically, it ends up harming them too.

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  10. Check this out, they are now blaming Russia for not only Trump but also Brexit and Le Pen!!! (Face palm)
    https://www.google.com/amp/insider.foxnews.com/amp/article/54655

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  11. Also sorry I have not been commenting as much lately, my phone has been making me log in EVERY time I try to comment and half the time it gets lost before I can complete the process. It seems to be working today, fingers crossed!

    FWIW, thank you FB for keeping the posts rolling! I appreciate it even if it’s not always a new new topic.

    I’d like to read some more from others too, when you all have time! 🙂

    Meanwhile, in less rep pill places, despite it being March, many people are still fighting reality! Annoying… On the bright side, people are fleeing the D party in droves! They are completely unhinged!!! :/

    Oops did I say that out loud? I mean IMHO, of course! (Nudge nudge, wink wink)

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  12. Today I talked for some time w a man who had just returned form a three month mission trip to Germany. He and his wife went to work w refugees, but rather than it being what they had been told (the msm narrative) it was a huge red pill. He said the Germans may have been coming from a good place but it was a big mess now, a powder keg was how he put it. He said he’s telling everyone now how America should avoid the same!!!

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  13. Cill says:

    Bloom, I’m not surprised. Disaster for Germany, and Europe, is an inevitable result of Merkel’s stupidity. It’s already happening.

    The most difficult aspect for me to understand is how intellectually retarded feminists / libtards / crusaders for diversity are. I think ideology must rob people of their intellect. “Intellect” might be the wrong word for it. Beasts of the field supposedly lack intellect, yet I’ve never known a sow or ewe or cow to be as stupid as Merkel and her ilk. Ideology is a human disease.

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  14. Spawny Get says:

    “FWIW this blog has been helpful for young blokes I know IRL.”

    That’s worth a great deal to me.

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  15. SFC Ton says:

    Women are never happy but with proper training by a man who keeps theme in line and some hard fucking they can be content

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  16. SFC Ton says:

    I get there is new men stopping by etc but on the other hand, the man o sphere has not grown in concept or operation.

    That will, 100% balls on money back guarantee with no expection clause, kill the man o sphere.

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  17. Spawny Get says:

    Pushback against neocon warhawk on Brillo show, worth a watch (I reckon)

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  18. SFC Ton says:

    Anyone who does mission work to third worlders should be bared from voting, owning peorperty and all such rights as they clearly lack any sort of intellectual capacity or concerns for the folks in their home town who need help

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  19. Spawny Get says:

    “I get there is new men stopping by etc but on the other hand, the man o sphere has not grown in concept or operation.”

    It might be that men enter, get red-pilled and just quietly go their own way?

    To be frank Cill’s comment is enough for me to feel this place is worth it. I think that the reality is greater.

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  20. Spawny Get says:

    Not related to the current discussion, I just think it’s funny (and useful in the future?)

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  21. Spawny Get says:

    “Anyone who does mission work”
    I guess some of them might get #Woke, but in general? Yeah. No votes for you.

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  22. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    Watching that, I have my suspicions of this Russophobe. At more than one point, he characterized Russia going into the Crimea as an invasion. Prior to that “invasion”, the people there voted to return to Russia.

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  23. Spawny Get says:

    Another handy one

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  24. Spawny Get says:

    When your fashion sense dies

    Or he wants to save fabric when making ties,

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  25. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    I think that they are waiting for the police to come and write a report. If the one with the ill fitting pants was driving, he may have to visit the DMV where they will test him.

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  26. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    Is it worth divorcing your wife over?

    It’s worth divorcing your wife over her threat of divorce, never mind whatever bullshit ‘reasons’ she’s come up with for the threat.

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  27. Spawny Get says:

    CP, just testing the waters for the effectiveness of divorce threats means it’s game over.

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  28. https://mobile.twitter.com/polNewsNetwork1/status/837001201384374272/photo/1

    [SG – remove the ‘mobile.’ bit from the URL. Like I did to the link in your following comment]

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  29. Not sure why the photo isn’t showing up, trying again.

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  30. The man who went to Germany belongs to the church my babysitter attends. I did not realize they did missions. In that church they are not encouraged to read the Word themselves, but after his trip he has been and we had a really interesting discussion about Some of the Old Testament stuff that relates to things we see today. It was a super interesting discussion, actually.

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  31. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Bloom,
    That is a very unlikely pair. Only in the big city could you have that much strange.

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  32. Yoda says:

    Saw such a thing on the London Tube I did

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  33. Yoda says:

    Do this one should not

    A lonely Japanese man who amassed more than six tons of porn died when a huge pile of magazines fell on top of him.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4278524/Man-dies-six-ton-pile-porn-magazines.html

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  34. mgtowhorseman says:

    re the entitlement and threat of divorce.

    BULLSHIT.

    1. A bluff can always be called and if so the capitulation reduces the bluffer’s integrity to zero. Lethal Weapon the tree scene. Riggs is held at gunpoint. “Will someone shoot this asshole.” Partial crazy but large part knowing its a bluff.

    2. As a bluff how callus do you have to be to Threaten To Destroy Your Lover’s Life. Take the garbage out or we are through. What message is sent?

    3. Invoking the D forces the other to contemplate what otherwise never cross their mind. Hmm garbage for this threatening bitch/asshole or peaceful singleness….hmm.

    Personally after years of a progressively untenable situation I found my leadership balls, woke up and said calmly out of the blue “I want a divorce.” No threat. Just a statement of intent.

    It triggered huge growth on both our parts largely because it was not a threat. this is happening. this is what the consequences are.

    Why I often link the below. It honest yet powerful.
    This is the situation. Respond.

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  35. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    I know that it is cruel, but I could not help laughing.

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  36. mgtowhorseman says:

    fb. my comments disappeared again. cheers

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  37. Yoda says:

    Who knew TV casting directors could hold the key to ending the war on terror?

    Pakistani-British actor Riz Ahmed has warned that a lack of opportunity for young minority actors in the United Kingdom could push them toward terrorist groups like the Islamic State.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2017/03/03/star-wars-actor-riz-ahmed-lack-diversity-film-lead-join-isis/

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  38. Farm Boy says:

    Horseman’s spam problem is fixed for the moment

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  39. Spawny Get says:

    That doesn’t sound like something a British person would say. It seems that hyphenated nationality is not a thing

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  40. Spawny Get says:

    FarmBoy, any guess as to what the issue is? I don’t know what comments were filtered as you got there first

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  41. Farm Boy says:

    Just the one above referencing BULLSHIT

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  42. Spawny Get says:

    If that’s the problem it’s nothing I can fix. I don’t filter for that.

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  43. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Found this from Fox News. It is kind of a shock from the mainstream media.

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  44. Spawny Get says:

    Katie is a kind of a shock jock, but she does have the balls to cover real issues.

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  45. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Farm Boy,
    Wordpress will kick comments to spam if they contain crud language? I guess we need to delete all our expletives beforehand.

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  46. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    I think she is a real journalist if she is going into police no-go zones after dark.

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  47. Linny says:

    Horseman is right. A threat is only good if the person making it is willing to carry through.

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  48. Cill says:

    FB and Spawny, I’ve scheduled a post for 00:01 a.m. on 2017/03/05 Patriarch time. Please feel free to change the time.

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  49. Spawny Get says:

    The man is clearly worried

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  50. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny,
    Cruel laughter again.

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  51. Spawny Get says:

    Could be interesting to some

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  52. SFC Ton says:

    I had a wife; just about everything is worth divorcing one over

    Women respond to over shows of crule strength then they do over anything nice or modest

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  53. SFC Ton says:

    Sure the 101 stuff is important but folks need 202 and higher level classes to grow and the man o sphere isn’t doing much of that

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  54. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    I saw it. A very different culture than the ones at Los Alamos.

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  55. Yoda says:

    Long before Trump’s monotonous repetition of “tremendous” and “great,” Barack Obama thought “corpsmen” was pronounced “corpse-men,” and that Austrians spoke “Austrian” rather than German. Not long ago, Representative Hank Johnson (D., Ga.) warned that if Guam became too populated it might just tip over and sink.
    The Western world is having a breakdown…

    The malady… stems from our false notion of elitism. The public no longer believes that privilege and influence should be predicated on titles, brands, and buzz, rather than on demonstrable knowledge and proven character.

    The idea that brilliance can be manifested in trade skills or retail sales, or courage expressed by dealing with the hardship of factory work, or character found on an Indiana farm, is foreign to the Washington Beltway, Hollywood, and Silicon Valley. Instead, 21st-century repute is accrued from the false gods of the right zip code, high income, proper social circles, and media exposure, rather than from a demonstrable record of moral or intellectual excellence.

    What got the brash Trump elected was a similar popular outrage that the self-described best and brightest of our time are has-beens, having enjoyed influence without real merit or visible achievement. If Donald Trump did not exist, something like him would have had to be invented.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/445371/american-elites-donald-trump-conflict-over-shaking-establishment

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  56. Yoda says:

    iTit talk to my hand it can.
    Get close it might

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  57. Yoda says:

    He explained that to accept there is a problem would mean accepting nearly 80 years of liberal thinking was wrong. That multiculturalism doesn’t work, that mass immigration does not lead to integration, that Sweden has made a big mistake.

    A stranger came up to me in a coffee shop to say much the same thing. She had read my first report. She implored me to shout louder.

    She said Sweden cannot go on pretending it is some kind of utopia. That it is on a path to fail, that her friends fear Sweden is being overwhelmed.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4276942/Swedish-town-migrants-laugh-laws-despise.html

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  58. Spawny Get says:

    He’s clearly a goner now

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  59. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    More evil laughter. If true, do you think that CNN has completely lost it?

    Yoda,
    The Swedes need some cheering up. Do you think this will help?

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  60. Yoda says:

    A terrorist who abandoned his wife and child to fight with ISIS in the Philippines has blamed Brexit as he was jailed for eight years.

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/03/muslim-blames-brexit-vote-plans-join-isis/

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  61. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    I wish that I could counter your several comments, but things are a little quiet with the feminists. Could they be saving it up for 8 March? If they do get violent, that will only alienate them from mainstream women.

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  62. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Horseman,
    She got involved with a single Dad? This never happens.

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  63. Spawny Get says:

    Admire the skills

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  64. SFC Ton says:

    Chicks get involved with single Dads every damn day of the year

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  65. Spawny Get says:

    Following the HoL voting to amend (aka fuck over) the A50 bill
    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/774988/LORDS-PETITION-Nearly-100-000-sign-up-ABOLITION-MP-debate-Parliament

    LORDS PETITION: 100,000 sign up to ABOLITION meaning MP debate almost inevitable

    A PETITION calling for the House of Lords to be scrapped and replaced with a new elected body is has hit 100,000 votes – almost certainly forcing a debate in Parliament.

    Brexiters are furious the second chamber defeated the Government’s bill seeking to trigger Article 50 and begin the process of leaving the EU.

    A petition calling for the unelected house to be abolished has now passed 100,000 signatures.

    Any petition that hits 100,000 signatures is usually debated by MPs in the Commons.

    Peers infuriated Leave supporters when they voted by 358 to 256 to amend Theresa May’s bill to ensure the rights of EU nationals’ living in the UK after Brexit.

    Critics have argued the issue must be part of a reciprocal deal with Brussels guaranteeing the rights of British expats in Europe, and that the Lords amendment effectively reveals Britain’s hand before negotiations with the EU have even begun.

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  66. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    So, The House of Lords has triggered its own demise by going against the will of the people? Spawny, I don’t think a working constitution can be written in this day and age. Ours was written at the height of the Age of Reason and it was not expected to last twenty years.

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  67. Yoda says:

    This little girl was coached to confront Brexit leader Nigel Farage. She told the politician, “My mummy says you hate foreigners.”

    https://pjmedia.com/video/little-girl-to-nigel-farage-my-mummy-says-you-hate-foreigners/

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  68. Yoda says:

    Aided by a politically correct culture of “tolerance”, the Muslim Brotherhood (MB) is secretly building a “parallel” society in Sweden by infiltrating organisations and political parties, a government report has concluded.

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/03/04/government-report-islamists-building-parallel-society-sweden-aided-pc-culture-silence/

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  69. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    It is one thing to mooch off the state. It is quite another to participate in its governance. Sweden announced that it is going to start conscription and it will be men and women. They say it is to stand up to Russia. I don’t think Russia has any plans for Sweden.

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  70. Yoda says:

    Liz returns she does

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  71. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Happy Liz!!! Maybe Mike will bring home lots of fish?

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  72. Spawny Get says:

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  73. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    The President of the United States wiretapped? No judge is going to sign a warrant for that. What are these people thinking? The Attorney General works for him.

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  74. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    From the Los Angeles Times,
    http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-johnson-taylor-campus-sexual-assault-20170303-story.html
    I think this means they have gone too far.

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  75. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I have to modify my earlier comment. i was not aware that Trump was bugged before he was President. Apparently, this was done under President Obama’s orders. No mention was made of a warrant. If I were Obama, I would be keeping a very low profile and hoping that Trump has a sense of humor.

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  76. Yoda says:

    MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

    https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/837787963027144706/video/1

    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 3, 2017

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  77. Mega says:

    Good to keep reminding people of the political and social crisis that is upon us. Some of us have been warning that it is coming time that you will have to pick sides. You won’t have a choice. You can fight or you can be a slave or you can be killed or imprisoned. Its surprising how many good people are seeing the light. Don’t know how many here follow Stefan Molyneux. He can ramble on at length but today had a 20 minuter than everyone should listen to. And he’s pissed. And picking sides. You won’t be surprised which side he chose: Freedom. Won’t be long till everyone will need to do the same. Starting about the 16 minute mark its priceless. Stefan is usually calm and cool and logical. Kinda cool to see him pissed.

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  78. Mega says:

    Guess I shoulda included a link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_0HAWWeC4E

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  79. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I just got through watching it. No waffling, no mincing words. Great video.

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  80. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    That is a cat who thinks he is part of the family. Such human posture!

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  81. Spawny Get says:

    Can someone drop a line to Donald and ask WTF he seems to be thinking of?

    Bliar…for the love of all that’s holy…Bliar? Fucksakes

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  82. Mega says:

    Just my opinion here … but if Obama and Holder and Lynch and Hillary, etc … along with the Deep State continue to attack Trump … he will lose. Only a matter of time. In order to prevent that … he is going to have to do something dramatic to prove that he will not just stand there and take it. Something big and dramatic is necessary. Like arrest some of them … big ones … like Holder or Lynch or Hillary. Arrest them and send them to Gitmo … hold them indefinitely to prevent their meddling. Issue threats to rest … you meddle, put strings, leak info … you’ll be arrested and sent to Gitmo too. This includes Obama … there has NEVER been a president who has left office and attacked his successor … HE WILL NOT BE THE FIRST … IF HE TRIES IT .. HE GOES TO GITMO TOO. His job as Ex Pres is to retire and go away quietly. MAKE SURE HE GETS THE MESSAGE. Because it sure looks like Obama is about to launch himself into the middle of the take-down-trump movement.

    IMO that’s what needs to happen if Trump is to remain in office. Will he do something like that ? Does he have the guts ? Probably not … hope he has sense to realize that once Obama and Holder team up … with hundreds of millions in funding they’ll generate … he won’t have a chance … over the long term. So in a sense … its self preservation for him. Seriously unlikely to happen that Trump will do something so dramatic … but hope he does.

    So this is where our situation is heading. If Trump does something dramatic like that … all hell will break lose. If he doesn’t, it will anyway … just a matter of time … strange times we are living in folks.

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  83. Yoda says:

    With sexual assault cases up more than 60 per cent in just one year, and ‘unaccompanied minors’ mugging pensioners to pay for hard drugs, police in Uppsala admit crime in the city has reached new levels.

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/03/05/young-migrants-crime-soars-swedish-city/

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  84. Spawny Get says:

    https://countrysquire.co.uk/2017/03/01/zero-pity-for-the-bbc/

    In modern Britain, affirmative action is bigotry by stealth. The statement it makes is that whoever is hiring has such low expectations of women and minority groups that they don’t believe such applicants will be able to get a job on merit. The left likes to throw around accusations, so let’s follow suit: through employing affirmative action the BBC is racist and sexist. Its bigotry extends, through a combination of pat-on-the-head box ticking and point blank exclusion, toward everyone—men, women, any of the other 31 bathroom-commandeering genders, and all the races on Earth.

    If the BBC must insist on being committed to targets and social control though, then here’s a scheme I could get behind: promote diversity of thought. Hire creative people who aren’t left wing. Get some conservatives on board. Go wild and recruit a libertarian capitalist. Just do anything, BBC, to melt the suffocating, liberal progressive crust which currently entombs your coagulated form, before you become any more tiresome and unrepresentative.

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  85. Yoda says:

    The Obama administration’s former Attorney General Loretta Lynch has made an impassioned video plea for more marching, blood and death on the streets – a video that was later posted on the Facebook page of Senate Democrats as “words of inspiration.”

    http://mobile.wnd.com/2017/03/loretta-lynch-need-more-marching-blood-death-on-streets/

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  86. Cill says:

    WTF Bliar Blair working for Trump? NOT a good idea.

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