Cut Off From The Herd


Frequent Commenter Ame stated

I’ve been kicked out of the herd a time or two for not following along blindly.  I don’t like not being a part of the herd.  I miss it.

It is a Manosphere truism that women are herd animals.  That is, they hang around each other for mutual safety.  There isn’t necessarily a real leader, there isn’t necessarily a plan, but they do stick together.

Being cut off from the herd can be a real problem.  Can she fend for herself?  Even though the herd might not have given much support, there was typically enough for safety’s sake.  For women, who historically are more vulnerable, this could be a death sentence. Furthermore, women have historically been raised to be dependent; irrespective of modern Feminism.  If not of a man, then of a village (or the US Government Village of Hillary).  It takes intestinal fortitude for a woman to allow herself to be cut off from the herd.  Therefore this is a rare event.

Men, on the other hand, were taught to be independent, but to be part of a team when necessary.  The Manosphere truism that describes this is that men are pack animals.  Individual men, on the other hand, historically could make a go of it on their own if they had to; just as lone wolves exiled do.

This is why there are MGTOW and not WGTOW.  MGTOWs are the lone wolves operating independently, and doing well by it.  Since a potential WGTOW can never really leave the herd, there can never really be any independence.  What do you think?

Addendum by RPG,

It’s never fun to be cut out of the herd, but I am actually OK with it if the herd are just idiots anyway. I am probably more OK with this with age, when I was younger I would have hurt feelings. But anymore, it’s like, “OK great, less BS for me!” .

 However I don’t like outright conflict, so I would just likely avoid the herd rather than engage in a fight against them.I have always been kindof a loner and OK with being alone. I’d rather be with others, but I have this internal line I can’t cross and will choose alone over not being true to my inner compass.

Addendum from Ton and Ame,

“Women don’t really have friends. Women have catty bitches in her life who display varying degrees of hostility”

Sheesh … ain’t that the truth. If i’d have truly known that truth earlier in my life it would’ve saved a whole lot of misery.

“But otherwise pretty close to wait is going on though I say it’s more about submission. She will submit to her man’s frame or she will be in rebellion. Submission makes her happy and she will be a joy to be around. Rebellion makes her a miserable bitch so she makes the world miserable”

Truth. So he needs to have a solid frame to submit to.

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42 comments on “Cut Off From The Herd
  1. Farm Boy says:

    Perhaps a married women could be WGTMW (Women Going Their Man’s Way)

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  2. It’s never fun to be cut out of the herd, but I am actually OK with it if the herd are just idiots anyway. I am probably more OK with this with age, when I was younger I would have hurt feelings. But anymore, it’s like, “OK great, less BS for me!” Lol.

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  3. However I don’t like outright conflict, so I would just likely avoid the herd rather than engage in a fight against them.

    I have always been kindof a loner and OK with being alone. I’d rather be with others, but I have this internal line I can’t cross and will choose alone over not being true to my inner compass.

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  4. Ame says:

    Bloom – i’m a loner/introvert, too! so i don’t *crave* or need social interaction … i’m very happy alone with a book, or my girls, or just me, or especially my husband … which is a good thing b/c there are many herds i have no desire to be a part of 🙂

    there were some groups that i enjoyed, and having a sped kid isolated me from them. there were other groups that were so tacky and shallow they weren’t worth the effort or time. then there are the ones who stab you in the back. it’s also true that hard times show you who your real friends truly are.

    and i don’t like conflict, either – i’d rather just walk away than do anything. women are mean and fight mean. not worth it.

    i wonder if the women who don’t follow the herd blindly are not heard from much b/c we simply walk away quietly?

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  5. I guess I am way out of the loop but I had never heard of this Pewdiepie person until he was accused of being a Nazi. Turns out he’s not a Nazi (like everyone else accused of being a Nazi lately) but he is pretty funny! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLOeZsqx-c4

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  6. Ooops, not sure why the video didn’t show up, trying again:

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  7. This is less funny but very informative, if true, wow….

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  8. SFC Ton says:

    In a healthy woman/ girl/ society, her man’s frame will replace her herd instincts.

    Lest wise I think so from casual observation

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  9. Ame says:

    that makes sense to me. i think it’s natural for a woman to *follow* and to want to be part of a *group.*

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  10. Ame says:

    I wonder, too, if having a strong family structure for girls gives them a “herd override” as they have a family-herd to follow.

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  11. Ame says:

    just saw one of those links on facebook where they list things your child MUST do by a certain age, or you’re being an over-whatever parent and not letting them grow up. i glanced at the list. yada yada yada. what.ever. that herd can have their followers.

    is it really that important that my 13 year old is adhering to some arbitrary set of guidelines, written by some mom out there whose personality is totally different than mine, whose children’s personalities are totally different than mine, and whose family situation is totally different than mine? nope. it’s not at all.

    imo, it’s much more important that i know my children each individually, and that i know what they each need, and that i’m able to be the mom they need at each stage in their lives despite stupid people trying to infiltrate my mind saying they know better than i.

    – – –

    funny true story …

    there have been times over the years my girls have acted out so out of character that i was left dumbfounded. so … in my delightful personality … i would say to them, “I don’t know where you get off acting like that because I know that this is not how I’m raising you, so obviously I’m doing something wrong! I’m going to have some long conversations with God so He can show me what i’m doing wrong and straighten this out!”

    to which my girls ALWAYS replied, “Oh, NO Mommy!!! You don’t have to do that! We’ll be good! We PROMISE! It’s not YOU! It’s US! You’re doing a GREAT job, Mommy!”

    nothin’ like the REAL fear of God in your kids to straighten their little butts out 😉

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  12. Yoda says:

    Presidents Day it is

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  13. SFC Ton says:

    Yup I think it’s natural/ healthy version of a herd. I see it in a few families but it isn’t an idea I have fully formed

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  14. Ame says:

    yes, it is president’s day … which means a national holiday … which means NO school. and let me tell ya … all those *sweet* suburban mom’s are BSC and driving NUTS … certifiable. they need to take their suburbans back home and park them in the garage and leave them there till they calm down … cause if they injure or kill someone while driving out there, i’m gonna show up at their trial to make sure they get charged guilty. seriously … i haven’t seen this many terrible drivers on the road at the same time in a looong time. these women need to be LOCKED UP!

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  15. Ame says:

    i’ve also noticed a difference in women – married or single – who have close relationships with their moms. it seems the closer they are to their mom, the less they need the herd. so … they either ignore the herd … or they’re a part of it but don’t care what happens to the herd – iow, they use it selfishly and ignore any responsibility to it. i haven’t completely thought this through to articulate it well, but i’ve noticed there’s a difference in women who have close relationships to the females in their family and those who don’t.

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  16. SFC Ton says:

    I see the opposite
    Women/ girls with strong masculine leadership in their life seem to be the ones who like men/ shun team women and the women/ girls who strongly indintify with their mom’s are feminist, team woman etc etc

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  17. Ame says:

    hummm … i see that.

    i’m thinking on a different level, i think. being on Team Women … or needing friendships with other women.

    as opposed to being on Team Patriarch – either dad or husband, and needing friendships with other women.

    hummm . . .

    more to mull over . . .

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  18. SFC Ton says:

    If a woman isn’t on Team Patriarch she is on team woman by default

    I don’t know Molly very well but she seems to be an example of what I am talking about

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  19. Ame says:

    that makes sense.

    i was thinking of Molly, too!

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  20. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Thank you, Yoda. I needed to be reminded.

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  21. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    It didn’t occur to me until today that the primary reason for feminist panic is that they fear Trump will turn off the tap for all the money that they get from government. For a lot of them, they must be dependent on it. That is what they get fo being parasites.

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  22. Ame says:

    Ton:
    “In a healthy woman/ girl/ society, her man’s frame will replace her herd instincts.

    Lest wise I think so from casual observation”
    – – –
    Ame:
    “that makes sense to me. i think it’s natural for a woman to *follow* and to want to be part of a *group.*”
    “I wonder, too, if having a strong family structure for girls gives them a “herd override” as they have a family-herd to follow.”
    – – –
    Ton:
    “Yup I think it’s natural/ healthy version of a herd. I see it in a few families but it isn’t an idea I have fully formed”
    – – –
    Ame:
    “i’ve also noticed a difference in women – married or single – who have close relationships with their moms. it seems the closer they are to their mom, the less they need the herd. so … they either ignore the herd … or they’re a part of it but don’t care what happens to the herd – iow, they use it selfishly and ignore any responsibility to it. i haven’t completely thought this through to articulate it well, but i’ve noticed there’s a difference in women who have close relationships to the females in their family and those who don’t.”
    – – –
    Ton:
    “I see the opposite
    Women/ girls with strong masculine leadership in their life seem to be the ones who like men/ shun team women and the women/ girls who strongly indintify with their mom’s are feminist, team woman etc etc”
    – – –
    Ame:
    “hummm … i see that.

    i’m thinking on a different level, i think. being on Team Women … or needing friendships with other women.

    as opposed to being on Team Patriarch – either dad or husband, and needing friendships with other women.”
    – – –
    Ton:
    “If a woman isn’t on Team Patriarch she is on team woman by default”
    __________________________________________________________________________

    pondering all this so i put it all in one place … cause it helps my brain work better 🙂

    women are herd creatures in that we are naturally designed to follow. Ton wrote: “”In a healthy woman/ girl/ society, her man’s frame will replace her herd instincts. Lest wise I think so from casual observation.” … i think this distinction is very important – that when there is a healthy woman/girl/society, we follow our man – Team Patriarchy, rather than Team Women.

    my mind had originally separated a woman’s friends and friend groups from whether or not she is on Team Patriarchy or Team Women. but i don’t think they are separate. simply having female friends does not dictate which team a woman is on. i think a woman’s personality, the personality of her man, and very importantly – whether or not she is an introvert or an extrovert, will determine the amount of friends and social activity she has. but whether or not she is on Team Patriarchy or Team Women will determine the *kinds* of female friends she has and the role they play in her life.

    as Ton and Artisanal Toad have said, for the right man a woman will do anything. if her man has a strong enough frame, he will keep her on Team Patriarchy. if he doesn’t, she is naturally susceptible to being swayed toward Team Woman unless she has some strong, inner strength and compass that keeps her away from being influenced by Team Women.

    on both teams she follows. on both teams she has friends. which team she’s on determines how she’s swayed. on Team Patriarchy, she’s swayed by her man and follows him. on Team Women she’s swayed by women and follows them.

    her personality and introversion/extroversion determines the number of friends she has and how social she is.

    how do you think i’m processing all this so far?

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  23. SFC Ton says:

    Darling, you are a girl, no one expects your brain to work very well 😉

    Women don’t really have friends. Women have catty bitches in her life who display varying degrees of hostility

    But otherwise pretty close to wait is going on though I say it’s more about submission. She will submit to her man’s frame or she will be in rebellion. Submission makes her happy and she will be a joy to be around. Rebellion makes her a miserable bitch so she makes the world miserable

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  24. mgtowhorseman says:

    and the bear gets it.

    yup. they know trump sees all the government money as an investment. he treats everything as an investment. they know the return on investment….ZERO.

    yup. paniced. scare. desperate.

    to be followed by the Where are the good men (to support us?)

    oh right. you went on strike on March 8
    so we are Locking Out.

    hehehehe

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  25. Women don’t really have friends. Women have catty bitches in her life who display varying degrees of hostility

    I’ll cosign that.

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  26. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Horseman,
    You may have your metaphors mixed up. Women think of themselves as the gatekeepers of sex. culturally this is a very new concept and women are not doing all that good a job at being gatekeepers. Anyway, they want to lock out men. That will be redundant because men are not showing up at the gate. That is more than humorous to think about.
    Thank you for the word of encouragement.

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  27. Ame says:

    “Darling, you are a girl, no one expects your brain to work very well 😉”

    and that’s a very good thing 🙂 🙂 🙂

    “Women don’t really have friends. Women have catty bitches in her life who display varying degrees of hostility”

    sheesh … ain’t that the truth. if i’d have truly known that truth earlier in my life it would’ve saved a whole lot of misery.

    “But otherwise pretty close to wait is going on though I say it’s more about submission. She will submit to her man’s frame or she will be in rebellion. Submission makes her happy and she will be a joy to be around. Rebellion makes her a miserable bitch so she makes the world miserable”

    truth. so he needs to have a solid frame to submit to.

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  28. “Darling, you are a girl, no one expects your brain to work very well 😉”

    So does that mean we get the pussy pass then? 🙂

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  29. SFC Ton says:

    Correct she needs a man with solid frame to submit to and be happy

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  30. Ame says:

    my first husband had a shifting frame. he would tell me to do X, so i’d do X. then he’d get angry and tell me i should have done Y. so next time i’d do Y. then he’s get angry and tell me i should have done V. we walked around on egg shells b/c we never knew when he’d get angry for something we couldn’t predict ahead of time.

    this guy i’m married to now is not like that. i know what he likes and what he doesn’t, and as he says, i’ll know when he’s angry, and i do. within that frame, i’m continuously astounded at how much love and mercy he has for me and our kids. blows.me.away.

    which makes me wonder … can a man truly love without a solid frame?

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  31. SFC Ton says:

    Only the strong can love, show mercy etc

    Which is why men can do those thing and women and kids cannot

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  32. Yoda says:

    A new post there is

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