Don’t Be This Guy


From here,

As the 22-year-old make-up artist walks home, she texts her boyfriend Adam Gillet to tell him she’s on her way back.

Beatrice feels no guilt as she walks through their front door – because Adam knows exactly where she has been and what she’s been doing.

The pair, who have been together for two years, have a one-sided open relationship.

Beatrice can sleep with who she wants, when she wants, despite Adam, 27, not having the same privileges.

They came to the controversial arrangement after Beatrice threatened to leave because she was unable to resist other men.

I see.  She is unable to resist other men.  There is a term for such a woman.

Beatrice, from Milton Keynes, Bucks, explains: “I love Adam, but I wasn’t ready to settle down and commit to just one man.

“I said I had to break up with him so that I wasn’t unfaithful. I didn’t want to hurt him by going behind his back with someone else.

“He was devastated and suggested we stay together but I could sleep with other people, as long as I told him who and when.

So yes, she does want to eventually settle down.  But she want to have lots fun, freebies and validation first.  She wants to have her cake and eat it to.

As for the poor fella, he needs some coaching.  Don’t do this.   Other men will not respect you.   After all, you agreed to it; it wasn’t forced upon you by the law.

It will devastate you in the long run.  You will not respect yourself.  She will not respect you.  Even if she doesn’t realize it, this is a big shit test.  Actually it is a “shit test squared”.  The original shit test was when she started sleeping around.

It is better to be celibate than to agree to such an arrangement.  Take the Red Pill.  Develop yourself.  Become better.  Do Inner Game.  As you grow older, if you do these things, women will become more attracted to you; if you still want them.

It is true that the thirst is strong.  But don’t let it drive you over the cliff.

Addendum by RPG,

She flat out told him she was going to do this. IN my mind, no matter how much he cares for her etc. the only acceptable answer, unless he actually truly is OK with her sleeping with other guys (unlikely) is to walk away.

If my guy gave me the same choices, I would also walk away. For my own sanity and sake. I could not be OK with it. The only way I could be in a relationship like that would be if I did not care about the guy. And again, why be in a relationship like that, when I could let go and find someone who wanted to be exclusive?

Addendum by Deti,

The focus of others’ comments, and my comments, has been on the man, because he’s the only one here who isn’t doing what he wants – not really. He’s the only one here who’s putting up with a relationship that’s not serving his interests, he knows this, and he stays anyway.

No one is saying anything about the woman in this situation because (1) she has the absolute right to do what she’s doing; and (2) if anyone said anything to her it wouldn’t matter anyway; and (3) everyone knows she’s just a woman and women are going to do what they’re going to do regardless of how stupid, pointless or destructive it is.

We EXPECT women to do stupid shit like this. WE DO NOT expect men to put up with stupid shit like this.

No self respecting man puts up with a woman treating him like this. I know this, because, while I wasn’t being cucked (at least not that I know), I did put up with crappy treatment from my wife for a long time. She was only part of the problem, for reasons 1-3 I just stated. I was the other part of the problem. Here’s why, and grab hold of this:

Women tend to push things as far as they can and this makes them miserably unhappy. Women also tend to live within guardrails and boundaries that men set for them. And they’re happy having someone else tell them “you can’t do that and if you do your relationship will be over”. Know why? Makes them feel safe to know that someone else has put down boundaries and guardrails, and is in charge of managing them. They can accept that their man will be with them as long as she stays inside the boundaries and guardrails. It makes them feel safe to have boundaries and guardrails set down by someone else. Now, she’ll bump up against them, and you just tell them to stay back from them, and it’ll be OK.

God sets my boundaries/guardrails. I set my family’s boundaries and guardrails. My wife does NOT set my boundaries/guardrails. That’s the problem here – she sets HIS boundaries and guardrails. That’s why guys are getting on him. A GF does NOT tell a BF what to do.

This is what Ton does with his girls. He sets down what’s permissible and what’s not, what he will tolerate and what he won’t. That’s what I do with my wife and even more so with my daughter. Makes them feel happy, safe and secure.

They’re getting on this guy because he wont’ put any boundaries down. He won’t do anything to make himself happy. In fact he puts up with all manner of shit from her. they’re on him because he won’t do what he needs to do to preserve his self respect.

That’s the issue here.

“Now we get to the big question, how to combat this?”

For men to reach down and find their balls. If they’re with women who carry their balls around in their purses, they go into the goddamn purses and take their balls back. Along with whatever else they want.

They make it crystal clear that there is no way in a million years they are EVER going to be with women who even THINK about sex with other men.

If my wife ever came to me and said “I think I’d like to open up our marriage”, I’d say three things: (1) No way; (2) Who’s your lawyer going to be; and (3) you’re moving out, i’ll help you pack and pay for the cab and your first night’s hotel stay. After that you’re on your own.

Men have to say no fucking way are they going to do this. Fuck that shit. I’d rather live alone and never have sex again than ever agree to be in a relationship like this. Abso-fuckin-lutely NOT

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183 comments on “Don’t Be This Guy
  1. Farm Boy says:

    She is a “makeup artist”. Not a beautician apparently

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  2. Farm Boy says:

    Tarn never could seem to understand when I said that women just have “to be”.

    I rest my case.

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  3. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Farm Boy,
    He does have to get out of there. Granted, he is fond of her but he is debasing himself. It’s amazing what kind of stuff women will pull and expect to get away with.

    Why the odd time for a new post?

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  4. Yoda says:

    Farm Boy tired last night he was

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  5. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    In a sense, men do have to take it. When people divorced for cause, women avoided infidelity. Since “no fault” divorce came to be, there is no downside for women to engage in extramarital affairs. They are not a factor in divorce judgements.

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  6. Emily Hartridge aka yellow hat girl
    The gift that keeps on giving (to mgtow)

    And

    And last but not least

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  7. Re original article.

    Date that landwhale let alone be cucked by her?? Seriously.

    She has a pretty face but an extra thirty pounds easy. Which says

    1 she has no impulse control for food or men
    2 love me as I am …by one and all
    3 complete dellusion of future consequences.

    Even at 50 my rule is my wife (or any woman) must be absolute max no more than 3\4 my weight. She wants me fit and trim so “keep up!!!”
    I am 6-1 175. I hit 195 this winter, looked in a mirror and said fuck this. Three weeks in the gym and back down to fighting weight.
    So asking a 5-8 woman to be under 140 is not unreasonable.

    By my rule that guy can hit 300 easy! Bring on the beer and pizza cause I aint getting laid.
    Oh and I quit my job! Those other guys can pay for you!

    Fuck
    Its getting bad out there.

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  8. Latest from Messenger Rising.
    Brilliant.
    Refute it if you can in light of this article.

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  9. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Horseman,
    She really does keep on giving.

    Farm Boy,
    The woman in the picture can’t be the subject of the post, can she? It’s doubly bad that she is such awful example of feminine pulchritude. This sexual marketplace is a mess.

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  10. SFC Ton says:

    I wouldn’t fuck that fat bitch with a baseball bat I found at a pawn shop

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  11. If Bear can do the Lt Ellis videos I can give in once.

    Lynda Carter from the 70s. Showing my age.

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  12. Agree w Ton. Not if you paid me a year’s salary

    Its only getting worse

    http://alphagameplan.blogspot.com/2017/02/sports-illustrated-beached-whale-edition.html

    And

    http://www.returnofkings.com/113147/its-time-to-revise-the-10-point-scale-to-account-for-modern-female-obesity

    In my day the 9 in the ROK article might have been a weak 6 at best.
    Pity the young men.

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  13. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Lt. Ellis was Spawny’s contribution. I have a hard time remembering a star that I had a crush on when I was a kid. It was tlike they were all so far away to be considered. I used to link Scarlett Johansson, but since she participated in the Women’s March, i don’t want to think about her anymore.

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  14. SFC Ton says:

    Ain’t nothing wrong with Scarlett Johansson that a good hard fucking won’t cure….. and The Ton is up for the job 😉

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  15. Spawny Get says:

    You old softy Ton, you’re all heart

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  16. Cill says:

    When I was in my teens I unwittingly became involved in cuckold shenanigans, starting when an attractive woman asked me back to her place. In the weeks that followed, other women asked me as well.

    I put a stop to it when a man came into the bedroom and wanted to watch. I was in the process of frog-marching him out of the house when they managed to convince me that he was her husband and the owner of the house.

    It turned out that all these women belonged to the same “swinging wives” club, watched by the husbands. I think to enjoy watching another man doing their wives, those blokes are girly men. The man in the OP is just a poor cuck with very low self esteem, and may be a girly man as well.

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  17. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I haven’t heard it for a while, but there was a theory about “cuckold” fetishes that had to do with so many men being raised by single moms. That the two were definitely linked.

    As for Scarlett Johansson, she is married with a daughter and has sold herself out to feminism and Team Woman. After Ton takes care of her, maybe he can fix Hanoi Jane Fonda.

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  18. Cill says:

    I’m guessing, the ones who lacked a father figure, especially.

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  19. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    That and the procession of “boyfriends” through the house. It has to have a cumulative effect on children and it can’t be good.

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  20. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    It is pleasant to see his wife greeting him. It doesn’t hurt that she is good looking.

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  21. SFC Ton says:

    Guys who let their women fuck other men are queers that have reconciled themselves to being cocksuckers

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  22. SFC Ton says:

    Fonda…. fuck no snake

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  23. Ame says:

    well … she got her five minutes of fame for being stupid.

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  24. Ame says:

    and i definitely do NOT want to be a part of her herd!

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  25. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    That women have attained such dominance in the SMP that they can pull this stuff is beyond tolerance. The guy is a victim. It is like somebody gave the woman a dagger and is encouraging her to stab him repeatedly. Ton’s characterization is all wrong and blames him for what the woman does. It also absolves the her

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  26. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    This guy should not be living there, given what she is up to. It may be the best thing we can do as friends is to have a spare room or a sofa for these guys when they have to bail.

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  27. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    I hear that Trump’s next press conference is going to have a Japanese game show theme. Questions will only be heard if the reporters stuff live octopi down their pants while asking them. Trump will only answer so long as reporters stick their hands in the Mystery Box for 30 seconds.

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  28. Yoda says:

    Clever idea that would be.

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  29. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    And I thought I was silly. 🙂
    Seriously, he could invite all the small local weeklies in the area and they would probably ask more intelligent questions.

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  30. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    On the weight of that point alone, they should be denied admission.

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  31. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Linked by Vox Day, I hope that they can keep the event secure.
    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/christinerousselle/2017/02/18/cpac-keynote-speaker-announced-n2287745
    It is not in the title, but Milo is the keynote speaker.

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  32. After seeing that most millennial don’t know a thing about the Civil War, my oldest (who has the flu poor thing!) and I are watching “Gone w the Wind.” Lots of red pill moments in this one!

    And I just love that pic of Donald and his lady. By golly, that would make any man be willing to save the world! We could use more women who got that! Bless them both! May they be shagging as we speak!

    She gets it, the first lady. Be an inspiration, not a mess like the gal in this post (who the guy should tell to F off!) promise me all men here, you would walk and never look back before you’d agree to such a horrible deal! 😦 she’s a skank!

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  33. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    That is a great find! Lots of animal story videos.

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  34. Yoda says:

    Trump after taking RPGs advice this is

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  35. Ooooh, the mile high club on Air Force One! Yeah, baby! Woot woot!!! 😀

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  36. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Bloom,
    I can’t think of a more exclusive club. Only the President has a bed.
    As for the post, you showed the old school attitude. That women is making a mess of the confidence that men should be able to place in women. Your reaction shows that she is harming all women.

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  37. molly says:

    songwriter Schubert-

    Beauty from man and badness from man is extreme

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  38. Spawny Get says:

    Moron Bliar

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  39. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    What can I make of Tony Blair? I can make a hat, a broach, a pterodactyl…

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  40. Yoda says:

    Probably hate me for posting this you will

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  41. SFC Ton says:

    The guy isn’t a victim he is a pussy

    He has options, like telling her to fuck off, bang other sea cows on the side or being a man and fucking a better class of whore

    He elcetcs to be a pussy and is paying the price

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  42. Yoda says:

    The federal government has simply taken upon itself, in the name of political correctness, to tell Baltimore police officers what pronouns to use in talking to criminals, suspects, witnesses, and the public generally. And if a male crook insists on being addressed as “Miss,” or (perhaps) “Your Highness,” and an officer doesn’t comply, the department will be in violation of the consent decree.

    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/02/doj-tells-baltimore-cops-what-pronouns-they-must-use.php

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  43. SFC Ton says:

    There has never been a civil war in the usa. There was a war of secession but no one has tried to take over the federal government by force

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  44. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    I think that your link was better received than mine.

    Maybe i have been watching too many game related music videos?

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  45. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Ton,
    You are promoting something that is beyond tolerance for any man who can add two and two to come up with four. If the guy messes up, that’s his fault. I get that. What you are doing, along with all the other “alpha” wannabes, is holding his feet to the fire when she messes up, by stepping out on the relationship.
    It’s bad enough when he gets treated that way by his significant other. It burns twice when “real men” condemn him for what she does. You can all take a long walk off a short pier.
    By the way, you’re not helping.

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  46. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    If this gets some traction in Canada, maybe it can be put to work in the UK?

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  47. Yoda says:

    If watch Netflix in Britain on your smartphone you do,
    pay the BBC tax you must?

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  48. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Historians are starting to take a second look at Caligula. He may not have been all that crazy and his enemies wrote history. The primary reason the Praetorian Guard killed him was because he was seriously considering moving the capital from Rome to Alexandria, which would put the Praetorians out of business.

    Yoda,
    If true, that is more than a little bit of overreach.

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  49. Spawny Get says:

    Fuzzie, he has the choice to walk away. I cannot conceive of not doing that. He’s got some deep mental issues that he needs to address if he values his own self that lowly.

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  50. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I am still furious with Ton. It’s bad enough that guys have to put up with all that women throw at us. Do we have to take being stabbed in the back by self proclaimed “alphas”? He wouldn’t have said one word against her, but he’s all over the guy like white on rice.

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  51. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    I already conceded that. He should get out of there. What gets me frosted is how he is condemned for what she is doing. If that is the way that it is going to be, men need to rethink a lot of things.

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  52. Spawny Get says:

    I’m not reading it as him being responsible for her actions.

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  53. Yoda says:

    A German Shepherd the dog should be.
    “Alsatian” to Britishers it is

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  54. Yoda says:

    Learners above fact from UFO series I did.
    Not always concentrating on Miss Drake I was

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  55. Bear

    He is reinforcing her behaviour. No one, man or woman should hold one person, let alone someone they are in a relationship with, to a higher standard than they hold themselves.

    I can eat picnic baskets but booboo can’t.
    I can laze around and not contribute but you cant so go work.
    I can fuck around but you cant.

    Allowing this from anyone
    1 reinforces the condoned behaviour
    2 removes any incentive to stop
    3 permanently puts them in superior position by the exemption from rules
    4 ultimately leads to resentment by the lower person.

    My staff have certain rules at work that go doubnle for me:
    Patients first
    Medical ethics
    Efficient operations.

    My wife has certain rules
    Contribute she runs the house me the farm
    Honour and be faithful

    Ton might explain it in his own unique way but I agree
    If this was prison and he had no choice then sypathetic victim
    This guy has choices like anyone man or woman. If you want faithfullness require it or next. But dont condone it then play victim.

    Even the lowest guy has options.
    Is she better than nothing?

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  56. Yoda says:

    Though nice boobs Miss Drake had

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  57. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    The absence of condemnation for her was deafening. All of it was for him.

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  58. SFC Ton says:

    Stop being a pussy Fuzzie. It’s fucking disgusting and you have been around long enough to become a man

    That little faggot made a choice to fuck a fat bitch and to stay with a fat bitch who is openly fucking other dudes. She hasn’t hidden anything so it’s on the faggot to find his man parts and sat down up to be accounted for

    A victim is when shit happens to you outside of your controll. He has the control to stay or go. He has decided to stay, that is on him. She didn’t ch3at on him, behind his back and dupe him into supporting another man’s get; she didn’t fuck some other dude behind his back and bring home an STD. Those two things would make him a victim. He has volunteered to be her bitch.

    Alpha wannabe? Nice attempt at “alpha shameing” you worthless little fuck.

    I have always tried to help you Fuzzie, but you’d rather wallow in your misery so fuck that shit and fuck you with a rusty HIV infected donkey dick

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  59. SFC Ton says:

    Ps, the only thing I am promoting is men being men and not pathetic cuckolds

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  60. Spawny Get says:

    Without risking legal intervention, he has no control over her. Her actions are on her. His inaction (not leaving the bitch) is on him. End of story.

    Can we call a draw and a halt on names? I really can’t be arsed to be arsed.

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  61. SFC Ton says:

    I’m fucking sick of Fuzzie sniping at me like a little bitch when all I have done is try to help him

    Fuck trying to help him and fuck holding my The Ton Tounge when he gets that way

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  62. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    “Ps, the only thing I am promoting is men being men and not pathetic cuckolds.”
    Now, how exactly is a a guy going to be able to do this? Whether is a cuckold or not is beyond his control.
    Shame is a woman’s weapon.

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  63. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Ton,
    You were never out to help me. You were always about putting someone else down to elevate yourself. It does get old.

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  64. Spawny Get says:

    Fuzzie, the guy stops being a cuckold as soon as he shuts the door behind him.

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  65. Yoda says:

    A primary school headteacher has been forced to work from home by death threats from Muslim parents who hate her western values.

    Trish O’Donnell, head of Clarksfield Primary School in Oldham, has endured ‘harassment and intimidation’ in the form of ‘aggressive verbal abuse’ and ‘threats to blow up her car’ from parents pushing conservative Muslim ideals.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4239352/Muslim-parents-sent-school-headteacher-death-threats.html

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  66. Spawny Get says:

    Off to bed now, please don’t bust the place up. I have no intention of kicking anybody out so can we please have our eyes on longer term relationships rather than just being in a shitty mood tonight?

    Good night.

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  67. SFC Ton says:

    Bullshit Fuzzie. Bullfuckingshit. I offered to help you all the time @ SM’s old place and never go out of my way to put people down. If you feel put down that’s about you and your feelings not reality.

    Though it is no longer true. I will no longer walk soft to spare your feelings.

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  68. Farm Boy says:

    Perhaps everybody should take a deep breath and sleep on it.

    There is a new post.

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  69. @ Fuzzie, not to get in the middle here but I think perhaps you are misunderstanding what Ton said? He didn’t say it was the guy’s fault SHE did that she did, but if he chooses to stay in the relationship and put up with that nonsense, that part IS his fault. He does not control his behavior or choices, but he does have full control over how he reacts to her behavior and choices, if that makes sense?

    Just like I cannot control how a guy acts toward me, but I can control whether or not to continue to allow him to mistreat me, or not. (And I always choose not, for my own sanity!)

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  70. Ooops, that should say “He does not control HER behavior or choices, but he does have full control over how he reacts to her behavior and choices, if that makes sense?”

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  71. And Fuzzie I am not taking sides, just trying to help explain where I see the miscommunication originally…

    She flat out told him she was going to do this. IN my mind, no matter how much he cares for her etc. the only acceptable answer, unless he actually truly is OK with her sleeping with other guys (unlikely) is to walk away.

    If my guy gave me the same choices, I would also walk away. For my own sanity and sake. I could not be OK with it. The only way I could be in a relationship like that would be if I did not care about the guy. And again, why be in a relationship like that, when I could let go and find someone who wanted to be exclusive?

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  72. And I am just guessing here, Ton can correct me if I am wrong, but I don’t even think it is a guy thing. I bet if I was allowing myself to be mistreated by a guy, and complained about what a victim I was, Ton would tell me the same thing — “drop him or you get what you get.”

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  73. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    For what it’s worth (is this a private fight, or can anyone join in?), my first girlfriend basically demanded I accept this deal. Being solidly blue pill, with terrible one-itis, it took me far too long to say “Screw this, I’m outta here.”

    Being without frame in a relationship with a psychopath, your perception of reality warps to accommodate them, But what it came down to was I’d rather be alone forever than be in that guy’s situation.

    So I dumped her. It was horribly painful (still have the scar, though it’s faded quite a bit) and I moved on.

    What Ton said (never mind how he said it) is correct. The guy has two choices. Either accept her behavior, or dump the bitch. There is no third option. If the guy doesn’t dump her, he is accepting her behavior. Some men are in the unenviable position of being financially ruined and having their kids torn away from them if they dump the bitch, and one can argue about sacrificing dignity/respect for the sake of this or that, but the decision still comes down to either accepting the behavior or dumping the bitch.

    And if the guy accepts the behavior, regardless of his reasons for doing so, he’s accepting all that comes with it. If it’s not worth the price, don’t buy it.

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  74. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    It took me a while to figure out why this guy is stuck. He probably signed a lease with this woman. This thread has gone a long way to making me a real believer in MGTOW. What disappoints me most is how the man is held responsible for her behavior, as if he could control it. Then, there is the attitude that what she does is expected to the point of being acceptable.

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  75. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    The man is being held responsible for his behavior, given her behavior.

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  76. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    No. He is being condemned for her behavior. That I have to state this demonstrates how far we have gone as a society in being permissive to women. Where he made his mistake was in trusting her and cohabitating. It is getting so bad that if a man is a crosswalk, crossing with the lights, and gets run over by a woman in big SUV, it’s his fault for not getting out of her way.

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  77. Spawny Get says:

    “He probably signed a lease with this woman”

    If you want to show where this is written?

    Other than that, if he is legally trapped, he can certainly not be having her as a girlfriend any more. ‘The bitch he can’t afford to move out from till the lease runs out’…maybe. But not ‘girlfriend’. He should be looking for someone to move in in her stead or his.

    He is being taken to task for not having any pride, and self-value. That is all. Maybe she was a nice person when they met? IDK. But people understand that people change. She is now something very unhealthy for him to continue to be in a relationship with.

    Fuzzie it is clear that this has triggered something in you. Please take a step back and try listening to what we are saying. We are not holding him responsible for her becoming this creature. We are saying that it’s very unhealthy for him to remain in a relationship with such a rancid person.

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  78. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    Years ago, I was in a roommate situation. I wasn’t on the lease, but I paid a share of rent. The gal bailed and the guy she signed the lease with had to cough up both her share and his. He tried to recover, but she filed for bankruptcy. I stayed there another ten months until the lease ran out and he left town. The landlord would not cooperate with finding a new third person. All this and it was a straight up housesharing arrangement.
    That is why I think this woman has this guy over a barrel.
    In the end, women are not held responsible. Here we are talking about how he is fucking up while she is riding the carousel.

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  79. Spawny Get says:

    I’m saying that from what I have read that she is a terrible person for a man to be involved with.

    I’m saying that from what I have read that he should GTFO of the relationship.

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  80. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Of course he should. In the meanwhile, all the onus in this thread is being piled on him. I think my pedestrian crosswalk analogy holds. If anything goes wrong, blame men.

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  81. Ame says:

    years ago when i was in therapy working thru all the crap my dad did to me, my therapist finally said to me, “Ame, your dad was one man, he was not *all* men.” it’s hard not to attribute everything he (and my ex) did to every other man, sometimes, especially when there are similarities. my husband that i’m now married to will put me in my place, though, and let me know that he is not like them. and lots of you men out here have, unbeknownst to you, put me in my place, too, (i just don’t like to broadcast every time my butt gets straightened out 😉 ). I’ve also had more than a few private emails setting me straight.

    with the information given, and those photos, this guy presents as one who is actually proud of himself in this situation. you should be angry with him for this b/c he makes those caught in sucky situations look bad. it’s been established the chick is stupid, among many other things. no one’s arguing that. but for a guy to choose to take on such a situation and present himself as supportive and seemingly proud of it? that’s really bad.

    as far as i’ve been able to tell, Ton treats everyone equally – he calls it like he sees it on everyone, regardless of who they are. i think everyone out here has received both support and criticism from Ton. i don’t always agree with him, but i don’t have to … and i don’t really care if we disagree, so i ignore it when we do.

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  82. Ame says:

    “Of course he should. In the meanwhile, all the onus in this thread is being piled on him. I think my pedestrian crosswalk analogy holds. If anything goes wrong, blame men.”

    Fuzzie – if you know that putting your hand in the fire will burn you, and you intentionally put your hand in the fire, having full cognitive abilities to comprehend that putting your hand in the fire will burn you, then the onus is totally on you for putting your hand in the fire, regardless of whether or not your are a man or a woman.

    in this case, WITH THE INFORMATION GIVEN, this guy is choosing to put his hand in the fire knowing exactly what he’s doing. that makes him totally responsible for any stupidity that comes his way from this situation. SHE is responsible for any stupidity that comes her way from this situation, of which there will be quite a bit more than apparently she is willing to accept. they are BOTH stupid! it wouldn’t matter if they were both men or both women or both aliens … they are both stupid.

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  83. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Ame,
    I went back and looked for a link to the original article. No joy. I reread the post and it is obvious that she is the author. That leads me to question her interpretation of how he feels. I think the theoretical nurse in the emergency room is giving him shit for not getting out of the way of the SUV when he was hit in the crosswalk.

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  84. Ame says:

    Fuzzie – we can ‘theoretically’ a lot of stuff here.

    bottom line … IF he is agreeing to this, he is guilty and stupid. that’s all we’re saying. i can’t imagine you would disagree with this.

    no one out here will side with you on this. AND THAT’S OKAY. we don’t have to agree. we’ll just all move onto the next thing and leave this behind.

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  85. Spawny Get says:

    “all the onus in this thread is being piled on him”

    I’m sorry but I’m not seeing this. I think that he should walk away from this woman. That he has not means to me that he has some issues that he should address as a priority. A friend should take him aside, something like that.

    Farm Boy is right that she has performed a massive shit test on him and his only possible response should be to get the hell out of the relationshit.
    a) because any other recourse is legally risky.
    and
    b) she’s a horrible being by what I’ve read.

    If you want to point out something that I’ve written that has lead you to believe that I’m saying he’s responsible for her actions then quote it here. I’m not angry with you, I think that you’re wrong about this. Being wrong is not a punishable offence.

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  86. Spawny Get says:

    This is on topic and is a rather good video

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  87. Ame says:

    that’s the beauty of Spawny’s … we don’t have to agree to get along. AND THAT’S OKAY. you don’t have to agree with anyone else, no one has to agree with you. there are things everyone out here has said i don’t agree with, but i don’t say anything b/c it’s just not that important. i get to disagree with you; and you get to disagree with me. and we can still get along.

    i’m closest to my husband and children, but we do not agree on everything. we just accept it and move on. because it’s okay to disagree and move on. actually, it’s healthy to disagree and move on.

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  88. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    One of the most egregious cases I ever heard of was of a woman in Florida who ran a red light and hit a nanny pushing a stroller in a crosswalk. The nanny was killed and the baby was seriously injured. The woman driver was an attorney so it was plead down to a misdemeanor. Maybe I shouldn’t be shocked by all this.

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  89. Spawny Get says:

    Fuzzie, you should watch that last video then. It’s very similar to that. And Stef is right.

    I do not see the connection between the woman driver and the guy insufficiently valuing himself. Which is my conclusion as to what’s wrong. He’s been raised / has come to the belief that any woman is more valuable than him and he should accept whatever she wants. He should address that catastrophic lack of self-value.

    The other is the pussy pass (as described in what you write). Were I in charge she’d get the same sentence as a man for the same wrong-doing.

    I’d be surprised if either of those comments are objectionable to you (or Ton or anyone here for that matter).

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  90. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    It has been an education. Where this guy went wrong was trusting her and living with her. She now has the hammer over him, otherwise, he would be gone. Add to that, we haven’t heard his side of the story. We have only heard her side.
    I think that men should just give up.

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  91. Ame says:

    “I think that men should just give up.”

    and some have. and that’s okay. each man gets to choose for himself.

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  92. Spawny Get says:

    “She now has the hammer over him, otherwise, he would be gone”
    I haven’t seen that. I can only think that kids would be the only issue that would be big enough to even be a consideration. I haven’t been in that situation, so I can’t say for sure what I would do. But if I had to guess, even as the mother of my kids, she herself would mean nothing to me. That boat would have sailed forever.

    Short of that? I’d be gone. If he has no money, I’d say screw the lease (IF that is actually an issue here).

    My guess is that he has psychological issues, major ones. He needs to value himself.

    “we haven’t heard his side of the story. We have only heard her side.”

    This should always be a huge red flag.

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  93. molly says:

    “They came to the controversial arrangement after Beatrice threatened to leave because she was unable to resist other men.”

    She said she would leave. Adam should say “leave”. If he’s stuck with the lease he can find a new sub tenant or boarder. Why didn’t he do this already.

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  94. Stephanie says:

    WOW this post is insane!!! Fuzzie, they are right – the guy was wrong to agree to that kind of “relationship” at all… it shows he didn’t value himself enough in any kind of way imaginable to agree to it.

    And um… I can’t get over the fact that she can live like this, quite literally having her cake and eating it too, and be so overweight!!!!! Like seriously!!!!! Women are getting away with anything these days.

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  95. Stephanie says:

    “Why didn’t he do this already.”

    No self-esteem. Zero masculinity. It is sad but the only person who can help him, is himself in not putting up with anything like this.

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  96. molly says:

    “the guy was wrong to agree to that kind of “relationship” at all”

    Not just agree – he SUGGESTED it.

    “He was devastated and suggested we stay together but I could sleep with other people”

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  97. molly says:

    He would rather be a cuck than lose a worthless tart. Yuk.

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  98. Spawny Get says:

    He needs time in healthy male company. He may never have experienced it.

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  99. molly says:

    “He needs time in healthy male company”. True!

    If he had a worthless solo mum he is the kind of young man Cill helps if it was here. Feminism wants more solo mums so less men grow up to help other men.

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  100. SFC Ton says:

    I had to sleep in my truck for awhile after leaving my wife so this maybe he has a lease deal don’t Cary much weight with me. Not to mention it is pure speculation

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  101. Linny says:

    I think they are both bat shit crazy with zero self esteem. Smacks of co-dependency.

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  102. Spawny Get says:

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  103. Spawny Get says:

    If she gets over 50% in the first round (aiui) she wins there and then. Lots of riots in Paris …

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  104. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    The rioters and terrorists may be the authors of their own demise. They won’t let up and she ma win on the first ballot.
    As for the rest, both men and women are a little too quick to condemn the guy. It taught me something.

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  105. Stephanie says:

    There’s already riots in Paris Spawny! Right??? I’ve seen footage of them… they look far worse than things happening in England.

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  106. Stephanie says:

    I mean, have you heard/seen what happened in Calais???????? OMG the insanity. And those poor french people not having any guns hardly 😥

    Just the end of Western civilization in places like that.

    I seriously hope Le Pen is successful

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  107. SFC Ton says:

    If Le Pen doesn’t win/ fix shit we might as well invade france, destroy it’s nuclear weapons etc, rescue her hot chicks and portable wealth ie art before there is a second moslem nation with nuclear weapons

    Cause that shit ain’t going well for us in Pakistan

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  108. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    There’s already riots in Paris Spawny!

    Are you sure? I haven’t heard anything about it in the news… /sarc

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  109. thedeti says:

    Weighing in on this Fuzzie vs everyone else issue.

    Fuzzie, as you might guess, I’m with everyone else. I think you’re misreading what ‘s being said around here about what the man in this situation did and what his responsibility in this whole thing is.

    The man is responsible for agreeing to be in a one-way open relationship in which he’s being actively, knowingly cucked. He, and HE ALONE, is responsible for this.

    Me, even in my bluest of blue days, wouldn’t have accepted this.

    This man has no self respect, not even a little bit. That’s why he puts up with this.

    It doesn’t matter if she somehow has a hammer over him in the form of a property lease. What you do in that situation is you break the lease. You take the loss. You write the check. You pay the penalty for breach. You pay the lease off. You move in with parents or friends or anyone who will take you in. You put your shit in storage while you figure out another place to live and another way forward. You declare bankruptcy. You work out your debts any way you can.

    You do whatever it takes, anything it takes. Anything to get away from the situation of being actively cucked.

    You be a man and you handle it and you take care of it. Whatever it is. However it is you have to do it. Take care of it. Find a way. Find the money. Find a place. Find out how to do it. And then do it.

    This guy is doing none of that. THAT is what he’s being blamed for. NOT for HER actions. For HIS.

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  110. Yoda says:

    Riots broke out on Monday night in the suburb of Rinkeby, where a majority of residents were born overseas, just hours after the country’s Prime Minister attacked U.S President Donald J. Trump for linking mass migration with rising violence in Sweden.

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/02/21/sweden-cars-torched-looting-riots/

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  111. Yoda says:

    Much power in being a victim there is

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  112. Spawny Get says:

    He dead

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  113. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    To begin with, we only have her word on what is going on. I have more than a little trouble believing that he is Ok with all this. What gets to me is that all the heat is being directed against him while he has no control over her. We have gone so far in our culture to put women on pedestals that they can do no wrong, and when they do, it’s a man’s fault. Not only has she cucked him. She has cucked every other man who wants a relationship by destroying the trust that is necessary. There is a reason that adultery was punished by stoning in the time of Moses. It is socially corrosive. I still can’t believe that everyone here wants to give her a pass and to pour salt in an open wound by condemning him. If I were in his shoes, I would have done something different that what her post says.
    If this is what women want to impose on men in this society, I don’t want any part of it. What kills me is that men are going along with it.

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  114. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    Any word on whether the wrong way driver was an idiot or a terrorist?

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  115. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    If this woman hadn’t set on the road of stepping out on her significant other, we wouldn’t be having this conversation. That leaves me with one conclusion. Men should not sign leases with women. I guess that puts marriage out of the question.
    While you’re at, pile more shame on him. That way, more men will draw the conclusion that I have.

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  116. Spawny Get says:

    AFAIAA he was (he dead) a muslim with a Swedish passport driving a stolen lorry laden with gas bottles into a city…your guess is as good as mine.

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  117. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    If he were a local guy, I would be leaning to idiot. There is no telling what this guy could have done with that truck. However, that they are resorting to using improvised weapons stolen locally, tells me that they are running short on resources.
    Something else, decades ago, someone told me to never mess with the Guardia Civil. While they may not have taken this guy down, Spanish police in the 70s weren’t having any compromises with terrorists. Hijacked planes that landed there had their tires shot out.

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  118. Spawny Get says:

    I have no interest in seeing the guy shamed. I am pointing out that he has made a catastrophic error and how he should rectify it.

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  119. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    You were the only one who attempted to engage me with reason over this issue. No, you did not wish to add to his shame. What has floored me through all this is the extent to which gynocentrism is defended.

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  120. Spawny Get says:

    I thought that pretty much everyone said that he should put himself first (that is dump gynocentrism). No one defended the heffalump with the hideous attitude. But I’m not really interested in her problems, I have no idea how that person got that entitled and I do not care. He should run away from her, forget her entirely, build up his self-value and then chose a path forward for his red-pill life.

    I’d be amazed if anyone disagreed with any of that. Maybe some have a clinical interest in the heffalump’s mind? Just how did that happen car-crash analysis type deal?

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  121. thedeti says:

    “If this woman hadn’t set on the road of stepping out on her significant other, we wouldn’t be having this conversation. That leaves me with one conclusion. Men should not sign leases with women. I guess that puts marriage out of the question.

    “While you’re at, pile more shame on him. That way, more men will draw the conclusion that I have.”

    Fuzzie, you’ve really missed the point of what others have been saying on this thread.

    The focus of others’ comments, and my comments, has been on the man, because he’s the only one here who isn’t doing what he wants – not really. He’s the only one here who’s putting up with a relationship that’s not serving his interests, he knows this, and he stays anyway.

    No one is saying anything about the woman in this situation because (1) she has the absolute right to do what she’s doing; and (2) if anyone said anything to her it wouldn’t matter anyway; and (3) everyone knows she’s just a woman and women are going to do what they’re going to do regardless of how stupid, pointless or destructive it is.

    We EXPECT women to do stupid shit like this. WE DO NOT expect men to put up with stupid shit like this.

    No self respecting man puts up with a woman treating him like this. I know this, because, while I wasn’t being cucked (at least not that I know), I did put up with crappy treatment from my wife for a long time. She was only part of the problem, for reasons 1-3 I just stated. I was the other part of the problem. Here’s why, and grab hold of this:

    Women tend to push things as far as they can and this makes them miserably unhappy. Women also tend to live within guardrails and boundaries that men set for them. And they’re happy having someone else tell them “you can’t do that and if you do your relationship will be over”. Know why? Makes them feel safe to know that someone else has put down boundaries and guardrails, and is in charge of managing them. They can accept that their man will be with them as long as she stays inside the boundaries and guardrails. It makes them feel safe to have boundaries and guardrails set down by someone else. Now, she’ll bump up against them, and you just tell them to stay back from them, and it’ll be OK.

    God sets my boundaries/guardrails. I set my family’s boundaries and guardrails. My wife does NOT set my boundaries/guardrails. That’s the problem here – she sets HIS boundaries and guardrails. That’s why guys are getting on him. A GF does NOT tell a BF what to do.

    This is what Ton does with his girls. He sets down what’s permissible and what’s not, what he will tolerate and what he won’t. That’s what I do with my wife and even more so with my daughter. Makes them feel happy, safe and secure.

    They’re getting on this guy because he wont’ put any boundaries down. He won’t do anything to make himself happy. In fact he puts up with all manner of shit from her. they’re on him because he won’t do what he needs to do to preserve his self respect.

    That’s the issue here.

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  122. Cill says:

    What has floored me through all this is the extent to which gynocentrism is defended.

    I see no defence of gynocentrism here.

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  123. thedeti says:

    Fuzzie:

    “To begin with, we only have her word on what is going on.”

    No we don’t. He is quoted in the linked article too. He’s quoted as basically saying he’s accepted it and has worked through his issues with it.

    “I have more than a little trouble believing that he is Ok with all this.”

    He says he is. That’s why he’s being raked over the coals here. At least where I came from, there is no fucking way any self respecting guy, even the pussiest pussy omega bitchboy, would have put up with his GF fucking other guys while he doesn’t get to fuck other girls. And we’re all looking at this going “why the fuck is he OK with this?” Even if he is an omega pussyboy who couldn’t buy a whiff of pussy from a girl, THIS is better than being alone? Allowing your GF to fuck other guys is preferable to being alone?

    Fuck, I’d rather be alone for the rest of my life and never have sex again than live with that indignity.

    THAT is why he’s being excoriated here.

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  124. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Deti,
    You only have it from what Farm Boy transcribed in the original post, which all comes from her. We have no idea what he is doing or thinking. we only have her word to go on. I think it would be reasonable to conclude that she is bullshitting us. I can’t see a normal guy accepting what she is selling. Also, she is trying to justify her behavior, which is unforgivable.
    What gets me is that we are all over him. That leads me to conclude that she is at liberty to do anything she wants and he has to take the heat for it. That is what living in a gynocentric society entails and no man who wants to retain a modicum of self respect should support that. This is not “Damned if I do and damned if I don’t.” It is much worse, it is imposing responsibility for someone without any authority.
    He should get out of there at his earliest opportunity, but there are now larger issues at play. What this woman has done is not defensible but she is getting a pass while this guy is getting burned at the stake. It sure smells like favoring women to me. I think that men need to walk away from this.
    Maybe, I should say another way so it begins to sink in. What AI am seeing is that people are adhering to the eleventh commandment, “Thou shalt not criticize women.” They are transferring all their disgust on to him. I do not approve of a society that treats its men that way. Anyone who does is compromising their self respect.

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  125. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    What I see you defending, is her ability to do anything she damn well pleases and no matter what he does, he is going to get condemned. I’d say that is defending gynocentrism. That is defending female supremacy.
    You see, it never mattered what he did. She did it all for him by cucking him.

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  126. thedeti says:

    “You only have it from what Farm Boy transcribed in the original post, which all comes from her. ”

    No I don’t, Fuzzie. I read the link. I read what Adam says in the link. Here it is, which FB put in a hyperlink:

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/2864302/meet-the-man-who-lets-his-girlfriend-have-sex-with-other-men-so-that-she-doesnt-leave-him/

    Here’s how he’s quoted in the article:

    “Adam claims he has got used to their arrangement.

    “The warehouse worker says: “I really like Beatrice and I didn’t want to lose her. I’m happy for her to enjoy herself.

    “We decided this is the best way to take the relationship forward so I have become used to it. I’m not really interested in chasing other women and I know if I did then Beatrice wouldn’t be happy about it.

    “I want to keep her in my life and if it takes allowing her this freedom with other men then so be it.

    “I did feel jealous to begin with, especially after the first time. I still feel a pang of ­jealousy when she mentions what she has been up to, but I keep it inside. I’ve learnt to deal with my feelings about it.””

    I mean, really? He’s OK with this?

    THAT is why he’s getting raked over the coals. Because of what HE says.

    So no, Fuzzie, we don’t just have “her side” of it. We have his too, and he comes off as an omega pussy bitchboy who’s just happy to get a whiff of pussy every now and then from an overweight bitch who treats him like shit. No, and I mean NO, self respecting guy should ever put up with this. EVER.

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  127. Ame says:

    “Women tend to push things as far as they can and this makes them miserably unhappy. Women also tend to live within guardrails and boundaries that men set for them. And they’re happy having someone else tell them “you can’t do that and if you do your relationship will be over”. Know why? Makes them feel safe to know that someone else has put down boundaries and guardrails, and is in charge of managing them. They can accept that their man will be with them as long as she stays inside the boundaries and guardrails. It makes them feel safe to have boundaries and guardrails set down by someone else. Now, she’ll bump up against them, and you just tell them to stay back from them, and it’ll be OK.

    God sets my boundaries/guardrails. I set my family’s boundaries and guardrails. My wife does NOT set my boundaries/guardrails. That’s the problem here – she sets HIS boundaries and guardrails. That’s why guys are getting on him. A GF does NOT tell a BF what to do.

    This is what Ton does with his girls. He sets down what’s permissible and what’s not, what he will tolerate and what he won’t. That’s what I do with my wife and even more so with my daughter. Makes them feel happy, safe and secure.

    They’re getting on this guy because he wont’ put any boundaries down. He won’t do anything to make himself happy. In fact he puts up with all manner of shit from her. they’re on him because he won’t do what he needs to do to preserve his self respect.”

    – – – – – – –

    YES YES YES YES YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  128. thedeti says:

    Fuzzie:

    “You only have it from what Farm Boy transcribed in the original post, which all comes from her. We have no idea what he is doing or thinking. we only have her word to go on.”

    No Fuzzie you’re wrong about this. I went to the link FB put up there in a hyperlink.

    Here it is:

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/2864302/meet-the-man-who-lets-his-girlfriend-have-sex-with-other-men-so-that-she-doesnt-leave-him/

    Go to it and read the whole thing. Here’s what Adam says about it:

    “I really like Beatrice and I didn’t want to lose her. I’m happy for her to enjoy herself.

    “We decided this is the best way to take the relationship forward so I have become used to it. I’m not really interested in chasing other women and I know if I did then Beatrice wouldn’t be happy about it.

    “I want to keep her in my life and if it takes allowing her this freedom with other men then so be it.

    “I did feel jealous to begin with, especially after the first time. I still feel a pang of ­jealousy when she mentions what she has been up to, but I keep it inside. I’ve learnt to deal with my feelings about it.””

    He’s totally OK with this. The reason he’s being excoriated here is because he’s being a little omega pussy bitchboy who’s totally OK with his GF getting fucked by other guys while he doesnt’ fuck other girls. There’s no way any self respecting guy I’ve ever known would put up with this. It’s just completely foreign to me and to most of us men here.

    NO one is defending the right of this woman to do what she wants. It doesn’t matter if we did or not. Who cares about her? Like I said in another post, dumb women are going to do what dumb women are going to do.

    You’re really missing this, Fuzzie. GO READ THE LINK and then come back here and talk about it.

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  129. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Going back to the original post to read it a third time, I finally found the link that takes me to the original article from The Sun. I need to read it, digest it, and write another comment. Just glancing at it makes me think that it is feminist propaganda.
    I am still of the mind that this thread confirms a lot of suspicions.

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  130. Egads, I somehow did not see her picture before. Really????

    Fuzzie, I see her actions, attitude, and behavior as 100% unacceptable, self absorbed, selfish, cruel, and unjust. I in no way think it is OK what she is doing. Personally, I think it is likely some way for her to justify not losing weight (guys still want to f me!) and to not feel bad about herself, but she should feel bad. And she should solve the real issue (how she feels about herself) rather than causing others to feel pain.

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  131. Cill says:

    thedeti has set it out as well as it can be.

    Adam is a fool for not just accepting, but actually suggesting the continuation of the relationship on such odious and pathetic terms. He is the one supporting her behavior. No-one here is giving her a pass. Commenters here are critical of him precisely because HER attitude and behavior are so disgusting. No-one would give a fig otherwise.

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  132. Also, even if she were a supermodel, my advice to any guy would be the same — next her! Find someone who will be true.

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  133. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Well, I went there and read it. There is a very heavy sense of sensationalism to the piece that beyond normal tabloids. They had to look hard to find this couple, if they are real. that she is seventy pounds overweight, at least, compromises the story’s credibility but bolsters feminist fat acceptance. I smell fish.
    The was a piece, in either the Atlantic or The Cut summer before last, that was supposed to have been written by a stay at home Dad that opened the marriage for the wife while it was effectively closed for him. I think this would be the Holy Grail for feminism to see this go respectable mainstream. I do remember reading some posts critical of the veracity of that piece.
    I have the sneaking suspicion that we have been taken in. It doesn’t matter much because we were tested on our reactions and we gave the feminists what they were looking for. Women are going to accepted for doing this or, at least, not criticized. Men are going to be trashed. For feminists, that is win-WIN.
    And we handed it to them.

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  134. thedeti says:

    “I think this would be the Holy Grail for feminism to see this go respectable mainstream.”

    OF COURSE that’s the goal. That’s the next big push, now that gay marriage has been accomplished and they’re well on their way to getting transgender accepted.

    THe next big thing is women’s polyamory and open marriages. It’s the beta bux living at home and helping take care of the kids (which might or might not be his) while wifey goes out and has sex with alpha fux guys. In some cases her fave alpha fux will live with her and beta bux.

    and it will be justified with “come on, you men! You don’t have a right to have sex with her. You don’t own her sexuality. That’s backward, conservative, tradcon, evil repressive shit. Don’t you want your wives to be happy? Look at what you’ll get – a wife who lives with you and kids! You want families. you should be happy to have the families you claim you want. And you get to support them and live with them.

    Sex is no big deal, it’s just sex, and she can have her fun. You can too (but we all know how that will work out wink wink nudge nudge – go have a bit of fun fucking $5 crack whores and jerking it to porn while she’s out getting railed by Harley McBadboy). Come on men – it’s all in the name of Progress!!”

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  135. SFC Ton says:

    The Volunteer cuckold should be shamed and SHUNED from the company of men so other men will know not to be a pussy

    We all tri3d to reason with you Fuzzie but you are so broken you can’t see it. That’s on you not us

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  136. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    There is another advantage they can promote that you overlooked, divorce to return to the carousel will be unnecessary. Daddy can remain home while Mommy lives it up on the weekend.
    Now we get to the big question, how to combat this? The only effective counter to feminism is MGTOW but it is indirect. While historically, only forty percent of men have reproduced, eighty percent of women have. In other words, they presume reproductive access will be provided. In alienating men, so many have gone MGTOW, women being threatened with something they have never had to deal with, restricted reproductive access. If feminism can be blamed for it, women will throw it under the bus quicker than you can say Jack Robinson.

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  137. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Ton,
    You are not reading the comments on this thread. You need to read mine at 9:12pm and Deti’s at 9:34pm. We have moved on.

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  138. Spawny Get says:

    If you care about her comeuppance, her comeuppance comes when no man will have anything to do with her shitty attitude. But I don’t care about her. I want all men to value themselves so that they’d never put up with this. I’m not blaming this guy necessarily, I don’t know how he was bought up, but I am saying that he is not powerless to improve his lot

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  139. thedeti says:

    “Now we get to the big question, how to combat this?”

    For men to reach down and find their balls. If they’re with women who carry their balls around in their purses, they go into the goddamn purses and take their balls back. Along with whatever else they want.

    They make it crystal clear that there is no way in a million years they are EVER going to be with women who even THINK about sex with other men.

    If my wife ever came to me and said “I think I’d like to open up our marriage”, I’d say three things: (1) No way; (2) Who’s your lawyer going to be; and (3) you’re moving out, i’ll help you pack and pay for the cab and your first night’s hotel stay. After that you’re on your own.

    Men have to say no fucking way are they going to do this. Fuck that shit. I’d rather live alone and never have sex again than ever agree to be in a relationship like this. Abso-fuckin-lutely NOT.

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  140. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    It may help to take a look at her photo again. She has to be at least seventy pounds overweight. I don’t think a blind man would be interested.
    Somebody is pulling our leg with this.

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  141. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Deti,
    As you are married, you are in a quandry. The law has been changed on you since your wedding, so it was not as it was when you went into it. I have a problem with this. From high school and reading the Constitution, I remember the term “ex post facto”. State legislatures have walked all over the concept. You mentioned that you would not get married if you had to do it all over again. Men who are single should pay attention to that. All the incentives for marriage are illusory.

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  142. thedeti says:

    “As you are married, you are in a quandry. The law has been changed on you since your wedding, so it was not as it was when you went into it.”

    Its true the law changed, but only a little in the last 20 years. The issue isn’t that the law changed; the issue was my ignorance of how marriage actually works and my not knowing how to manage one.

    I was not in any way prepared for what a marriage actually is, how one works in practice, or how to manage a wife and her…. predilections. That was not modeled for me. What was modeled for me was dysfunction and chaos with a weak father and a dominant ballbusting mother who ruled the roost.

    I’m not really in a quandary. If my wife ever said to me “let’s open up the marriage”, we’d just be done. It would cost me a lot of money. It would put me in the poorhouse for some time. It would fuck up my kids. I know this. That last thing- my kids – is the prime reason I’ve stuck it out this long. I am convinced had it not been for my kids, I would likely have divorced Mrs. deti 5 years ago, at year 15 of our marriage. (I am also convinced that had it not been for my kids, Mrs. deti would have divorced me around year 3 or 4 of our marriage. So the way I see it, it’s all even.) But even so, if she said “let’s open it up” the papers would be on file the next day, because if she said it, that means she’s thinking about it and wants it, which means she doesn’t want me. Far be it from me to stay in a place where I’m not wanted.

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  143. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    It is curious how vital information on how a man can lead in marriage is suppressed and we have to go to obscure corners of the internet.

    I can see any sane man divorcing over that. Being single can be a comfort. I don’t have to think about stuff like that.

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  144. Yoda says:

    A new post there is

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  145. The volunteer cuck should be shamed for the same reason the carousel rider, or the frivorcee, or the gal in this article should be shamed — it is bad for society! You are right Fuzzie, and Rollo has said this too, that women will push for poly (on her side) to be socially OK. But it isn’t. And I hope it never becomes the new normal.

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  146. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Bloom,
    I think he should be told this is a bad idea and given a chance to fix it before he is subjected to brutal shaming, if this is true.

    When I was on OkCupid, there was a gal who wanted to start a polyamorous relationship with me. I took a pass. I wanted a girl all to myself. I guess that I am greedy that way. So, I remained celibate.

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  147. Yoda says:

    “You definitely grabbed me by my tits,” one woman could be heard screaming at police.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/02/21/13-anti-trump-protesters-arrested-portland/

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  148. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    The police should prosecute criminally for a false accusation and, if she is a trust fund baby, they should go after her civilly. Cities have better things to spend taxpayer’s money on.

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  149. Stephanie says:

    Bloom, polyamory is already a new “thing” going on. I used to read a woman’s blog that was involved in a polyamory relationship with another couple, and it was eye-opening how horrible and unnatural it all was.

    It’s interesting how there seems to be one partner that is for the opening of the marriage (maybe they’re bored or no longer really attracted to their partner) while their partner is really reluctant to get involved in that lifestyle at first (and sometimes throughout). It’s very painful and devastating for the partner that is reluctant – I mean they watch their spouse fall in love or lust with someone else, sometimes multiple people if they’re ambitious “swingers.” Of course they could leave, but these couples are usually very liberal and have grown to believe that morals or putting any kind of boundaries around marriage are sexist and too controlling. Their own “open-mindedness” really causes them a ton of emotional and psychological pain if they end up staying with the partner who wanted to open the relationship. The woman blogging about it actually was the reluctant one, her husband was extremely desiring to have their marriage opened, and then fell head over heels for a woman they were coupling/swinging with. She was the opposite of the wife blogging, so that was pretty painful to realize he really wanted someone opposite of what he initially chose.

    The husband from the other couple that was swinging with them was the reluctant one in that marriage. He had the WORST time accepting his extremely sexy and vivacious wife just sexing it up with the blogger’s husband all the time. And they were like REALLY really into the extra-martial sex, way more than the blogger and the husband she was paired up with were. The husband couldn’t take the anguish and ended up leaving his wife I believe.

    It’s a nasty world of open sex and they don’t expect marriage to mean anything at all as far as loyalty or fidelity mean or used to mean. The spouses who want the open marriage end up winning in this sick environment of putting lust and passion first above anything else. But they probably eventually fizzle out or get married after their own spouses leave them and then get bored again and fall in love with other people I guess.

    But it is definitely where the future is going, and in some cases, it’s already here among us.

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  150. SFC Ton says:

    Deti is a nice guy, 9ffering to help the bitch pack and all

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  151. SFC Ton says:

    Poly is the natural state of the world
    It’s women with harems that are unnatural

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  152. Spawny Get says:

    Can you call this satire when it’s so close to being realistic?

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  153. Stephanie says:

    I’m glad you make it work Ton, I really don’t think your situation sounds at all like two marriage couples swapping partners (that formerly were **not** poly) though. Your’s seems to work out for all parties and there’s no man being cuckolded.

    From that poly lady’s blog, it seemed hardest on the man having to watch his very promiscuous and sensual wife be with this other man so enthusiastically… so maybe it really is *more* unnatural for a male to endure that. The woman blogging was reluctant at first but tried to fully embrace it. I mean even biblically there were multiple wives (not saying it didn’t cause problems between those women but there was NO example of some man having to be cuckolded).

    And speaking of problem causing… I’ve seen Muslim women ADMIT openly that they hated the other wife (when in fact they were the SECOND one anyway!). I’ve seen them admit they wanted to murder the other wife, and with that culture lol… they really might do that if they thought they could get away with it. But who knows what all is going on there… who knows why they have such strong hatred and anger toward the other wife? I’m betting it’s more to do with their Satanic religion but I’m not sure.

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  154. thedeti says:

    It’s more natural for a man to have more than one simultaneous partner than it is for a woman to have more than one simultaneous partner.

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  155. Stephanie says:

    I think you’re right Deti… I mean it’s even biblical…..

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  156. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Stephanie,
    The Chinese ideogram for “trouble” is two women in the same house. The two wives are not partners, but competitors.

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  157. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    Poe’s Law was tailor made for feminists. It is not just feminists, however. From time to time, Sunshine would give reports of what she saw lurking on mommy blogs.

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  158. Spawny Get says:

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  159. SFC Ton says:

    #1 the dynamic between Western men and women is completely different then it is between hajjis or any other group, which is why non Western women highly value White men. Everything boutique islam is shit.

    #2 open/ swinging isn’t poly/ a man having a harem

    #3 I dont much give a fuck if women are happy; what is clear is certain groups are out breeding and replacing Whites in the nation our White forefathers creatred for their White decdants. Most of those doing the out breeding us are cultures where men have harems

    #4 & here comes the hapless and helpless beta rage, I am not sure letting anyone breed is a good idea. There is a reason most critters don’t have high levels of betas breeding and why males fight to the death to be the one crushing all the lady critter ass. Nature/ life/ the world etc doesn’t give a fuck about any single person or their happiness. it only cares about surrival and dominating others

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