Grasping at Straws


From here,

According to a study by the University of Washington, if science, technology, engineering and math fields want more women, they’re going to have to drop the Star Trek posters and Mystery Science Theater 3000 fandom that defines their “toxic masucline” culture.

Psychology Professor Sapna Cheryan says that she was deterred from a career in the hard sciences because the boys in so-called STEM classes had a brotherhood defined by Dungeons & Dragons and pop culture references she says deterred female participation.

First of all, this all assumes that there should be more women in STEM fields.  I don’t see an equal push for more men in early childhood development fields.  As mentioned before, men have more of a pre-disposition to STEM, and also possess testosterone, which allows them the drive to make stuff (like intense learning) happen.  Boys also learn to suck it up and tolerate many things on the way to their goals.  Apparently the psychology professor above did not learn that lesson, as she let a D&D culture drive her away.  But then again, we should not be so harsh on her, as she is not a guy and was not forced to learn the stick-to-itiveness lesson.

That left her with an ax to grind, and so she set out to prove that male nerd culture is toxic to female success. Because never in history has there been a female Star Trek fan, Dungeons & Dragons player, or authentic geek—or a woman with enough wherewithal to handle geeky men without collapsing into tears at the mere mention of Captain Picard

Gratuitous Picard facepalm picture to keep the professor away.

“To draw more girls into STEM fields, it’s not enough to provide more learning opportunities,” Cheryan claims. “This geeky image is at odds with the way that many girls see themselves. Work from our lab shows that when high-school girls see Star Trek posters and video games in a computer-science classroom, they are less interested than boys in taking the course.”

Actually, there seems to be some truth to this.  Decades ago, when Computer Science was considered to be just that, a science; there were lots of women in the field.  It had prestige.  One could graduate and ride the fast track up at IBM or the like.  But then Computer Science was invaded (especially on TV and in the Movies) by geeky types.  Enrollment in Computer Science by women went down.  “Why put in all of the effort to learn Computer Science, especially when I don’t necessarily like it, and work in this field that the public simultaneously likes and mocks?”   Probably lots of the women went into other easier fields in order to ride the affirmative action train, perhaps like psychology.

Instead, Cheryan says, science classrooms should put up soothing art and nature posters to attract the feminine eye. Cheryan didn’t, of course, determine whether irrelevant posters featuring works of art and fuzzy photos of leaves would have an impact on male interest—or whether she was implicitly stereotyping women as attracted only to typically “beautiful” things.

Perhaps it should be remembered that Universities and the Classrooms contained in them are for learning.  Ideally, students would be learning to think critically; understanding how to recognize facts and apply logic to them.  Maybe this is no doubt doubly true in STEM classes.

Cheryan also found that women who had an interaction with a computer science major wearing a “I Code Therefore I Am” t-shirt or who identified Mystery Science Theater as their favorite show, also saw their interest in the major drop, apparently because women are shallow and don’t find geeks attractive.

The Professor is probably right about that; women don’t find these fellas particularly attractive.  Apparently the assumption is that women’s majors are very dependent on whether they can find guys that they are attracted to in the classroom there.  The guys have no such comparable luxury.

What the women are not considering is the fact that these fellas will no doubt be making good money soon enough.  Furthermore, for many, much of their geekiness will fade away.  But all of this takes a desire to think logically and plan ahead.  Apparently young women have the luxury of not doing so.

She suggests that computer science majors try to attract more women by wearing plain tee shirts and liking The Office. Or perhaps they should just wear man-leggings with their “This is What a Feminist Looks Like” t-shirts, and admit to scheduling work hours around Lifetime movie schedules.

I don’t think that would be effective.  Perhaps Ton might have some suggestions.  Once again, women have the luxury of being clueless.

I might suggest that if women want a Computer Science degree, and don’t want to deal with that awful geek culture, should just work on an on-line degree to avoid it.  There are many available these days.

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85 comments on “Grasping at Straws
  1. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    It is a shame that Tarn does not participate anymore. In high school, she made common cause with the geeks. What I see happening is that geeks won’t care anymore. The girls will find fault with them no matter what they do.

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  2. Farm Boy says:

    defines their “toxic masucline” culture.

    I might suggest that much about “toxic femininity” can be found in the previous thread

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  3. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    You bring up something that should be looked at more closely. Whenever women complain about men, they are projecting. Those women were definitely toxic and they are doing their best to poison the well for all of us.

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  4. Farm Boy says:

    Well, to honest, I did not see much in the march videos or pictures that might suggest that some could be “marriage material”

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  5. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    i never even thought about that while looking. Considering it, on reflection, most of these women made themselves as unattractive as they could. I would bet a doughnut that a lot of them are married and he is at home watching the kids while they are out making feminist asses out of themselves.

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  6. Farm Boy says:

    It is not so much asses that they are emphasizing. Move forward a few inches

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  7. SFC Ton says:

    There is masculinity in nerd culture? Who knew ?

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  8. STEM requires results.
    If they can’t hack a Picard poster what happens when they graduate as:

    An engineer for Boeing and their boss asks “so will this engine perform in windshear at 110% of rated power? 500,000 passengers a year may DIE if your math is wrong.”

    As a gene splicer for CDC.. “So. Is that Ebola vaccine ready? 2000 people a day are dying?”

    Or my job. Ok 1 bed suite. Pick. 95 year old paliative care patient, healthy 68 year old couple married 37 years, chronic COPD single 75 year old man, 50 year old head injury with no family.

    (P.s. those were my actual choices last Friday. Gotta give orders 900 am tomorrow.)
    (Went with head injury until veterans care has room. Second choice the couple)

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  9. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Speaking of news from far away places. This comes to us from Edmonton. You can’t get much further north without getting into the Northwest Territory. They had a march too.

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  10. Farm Boy says:

    Horseman,

    WWJD?
    What Would Justin Do?

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  11. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Farm Boy,
    Ashley Judd is a real stinker. On the previous thread, I linked Scarlett Johansson who would have kept male fans if she hadn’t attended. We should boycott these women for the rest of our lives.

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  12. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Farm Boy,
    That is a horrible thought.

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  13. Farm Boy says:

    That is a horrible thought

    There were many horrible thoughts this weekend around the country. At least this one is amusing

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  14. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Point taken.

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  15. Farm Boy says:

    science classrooms should put up soothing art and nature posters to attract the feminine eye.

    And mood music also. Perhaps Enya

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  16. Farm Boy says:

    We should boycott these women for the rest of our lives.

    The level of the boycott is an inverse function of their boob sizes

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  17. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Farm Boy commented that they had ID’d the man who assaulted the Rebel correspondent at Bloom’s. It is good news.
    http://www.therebel.media/shock_video_rebel_reporter_attacked_by_alberta_ndp_thug

    I don’t have a lot of confidence in the local cops to see justice done. May they prove me wrong.

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  18. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Farm Boy,
    We should get serious about this. Boobs not withstanding.

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  19. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Feminism has dome its best to drive a wedge between women and men. They appeal to the fear in women for men and converting to hate and contempt. Once that is done, there is no meeting in the middle.

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  20. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Seeing this women’s march has done some damage to my spirit. It has given me a glimpse into the heart of American women. American men deserve better.

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  21. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    EWALT.

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  22. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I have to second that. The irony is so thick, you need a knife to cut it.

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  23. Ame says:

    i could not even watch or read anything on that women’s march. ugh. that’s where Ton’s words of not giving room in my brain for stuff like that applies to me 🙂

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  24. Ame says:

    did anyone else wonder if Liz and Mike were a part of the military ball?! 🙂

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  25. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Bloom,
    Ton has been quiet, but I think someone already asked. He doesn’t have much confidence in present day senior officers. I think it was something about making too many compromises for political expediency. Here are some officers that I would hope he would feel confident in.

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  26. Spawny Get says:

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  27. Farm Boy says:

    A picture of one of the organizers for the DC Women’s March is making the rounds on social media.

    Linda Sansour is seen flashing the ISIS sign.

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/01/organizer-dc-womens-march-trump-pictured-flashing-isis-sign/

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  28. Captain Kirk vs. Ashley Judd.

    Good God, what a nutcase!

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  29. I wonder if Ton has gone hunting?

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  30. “If If liberals don’t believe in BIOLOGICAL GENDER, then why are they marching for WOMEN’S RIGHTS?” ~ seen on Gab, the guy has a point!

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  31. happyhousewifey says:

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  32. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Bloom,
    I wish that Captain Kirk had used something more spectacular to do away with Ashley. Listening to all this manure has made me very depressed.

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  33. Farm Boy says:

    It would seem that the Dutch media does not really understand things. Or, probably they do, but are not explaining stuff to the poeple. On purpose

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  34. Here you go Fuzzie, this will make you feel much better!
    https://vid.me/VqMP

    Ashley is a loon, ignore her. I couldn’t even listen to it!

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  35. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yes, the Dutch are allowed to make fun of us. It kind of makes up for changing the name of New Amsterdam to New York.

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  36. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Bloom,
    It is not so much Ashley as Scarlett Johansson. She shows up to speak with a butch haircut and goes on about Planned Parenthood. For the lonhgest time, I thought she had the good sense to be neutral. She went over to the dark side. Add to that all those ordinary women who could be my neighbors.

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  37. Lol the Dutch video! Everybody, watch that, trust me! Lol.

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  38. mgtowhorseman says:

    http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/news/blog.html?b=news.nationalpost.com/news/0124-na-assisted-dying&pubdate=2017-01-23

    And so it begins. I see families all the time begrudging ltc costs let alone end of life. I also see the waiting to inherit crowd. When “assisted suicide” first was being legalized I called it. A cost saving measure

    I personally have an ironclad medical instructions including absolutely DO heroic measures. And my medical power of attorney is with my lawyer who knows my wishes.
    Not because I dont trust the family but because I see the inability to make decisions in the emotion of endof life.

    Similarly with specific conditions on “no hope” by multiple doctors including a both a neurologist and a cardiologist,I have specific organ harvest instructions. I have seen families dither over a brain dead patient until past organ viability so many times I want to shake them.
    Most people dont realize how fast organs degrade after brain death. The vent is moving the lungs but the complex chemical balances are not being maintained by dead brain.

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  39. Choicy says:

    Bloom I neither confirm nor deny, though I reckon it was a choice piece of aerial calligraphy mate.

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  40. Farm Boy says:

    Monday on MSNBC’s “All In,” discussing Saturday’s women’s march on Washington, feminist and political activist Gloria Steinem said President Donald Trump made woman feel “sexually assaulted by his language and by his attitude

    http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/01/23/gloria-steinem-woman-felt-sexually-assaulted-by-trumps-language-attitude/

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  41. Farm Boy says:

    Reaching a new acme in irresponsible fear-mongering, the far-left Guardian newspaper is now warning that President Donald Trump intends to obliterate the human rights movement, knocking humanity back to the pre-Civil Rights era

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/01/23/guardian-hysteria-trump-unleash-tsunami-human-rights/

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  42. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Farm Boy,
    Is California a little overrepresented on that map? The higher they go, the further they have to fall and it is financial insanity to tie that much wealth in housing.

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  43. happyhousewifey says:

    Making fun of our own, too. Lots of Dutch politicians hating Trump will grovel before him soon.
    Mainstream Dutch media are useless, but alternatives have been going strong for decades.

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  44. Farm Boy says:

    Transgender activists are upset that the women’s march over the weekend was not inclusive to biological men who identify as women, as the protest presented an “oppressive message” that having a “vagina is essential to womanhood.”

    http://freebeacon.com/culture/white-cis-women-march/

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  45. Linny says:

    @mgtowhorseman

    Thank you for your post on facing end of life. I find myself in this position right now. I am the one having to make the decisions and it sucks big time.

    I worked many years in long term care and have always thought I could handle this sort of thing with a clear mind. I was wrong.

    Death til us part is not easy for the one being left behind.

    I still have hopes that this is just a close call.

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  46. Farm Boy says:

    During Monday’s Democracy in Color DNC debate, Idaho Democratic Party Executive Director and DNC Chair candidate Sally Boynton Brown stated that “my job is to shut other white people down when they want to interrupt. My job is to shut other white people down when they want to say, oh, no, I’m not prejudiced. I’m a Democrat. I’m accepting.’ My job is to make sure that they get that they have privilege.” And argued the DNC should have training for people in “how to shut their mouths if they’re white.”

    http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/01/23/idaho-dems-exec-director-dnc-should-train-people-in-how-to-shut-their-mouths-if-theyre-white/

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  47. Spawny Get says:

    OR…and I’m just making this up as I go along here…the democrat party could just fucking die

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  48. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    … in a fire.

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  49. Not surprising the special snowflakes are now competing for the “most special snowflake of all” title. Geezzz

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  50. JDG says:

    The advertisement under the post today was a message from Gerber’s encouraging the reader to “Give your child a head start in life with a Gerber’s Grow Up Plan.” Seems like lots of girls didn’t get their Grow Up plan.

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  51. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    JDG,
    I think the “Grow Up Plan” has more to do with physical growth than maturity. I do have an idea. Teach them how to make sandwiches and both issues may be solved.

    As for the Democratic Party, they ceased to be relevant when they dumped working families for feminists. Like the old joke, they need to be told to fall down.

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  52. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Faith Goldy and Lauren Southern went to Washington to see the march. They are home now and here is their recap.

    One of the facts that Faith kept bringing up is that room rates went up to a thousand dollars a night. Ordinary people couldn’t attend. Also, her plane from Toronto was full of would be demonstrators. She wondered out loud how well Canadians would take if if planeloads of Americans came to protest internal politics.

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  53. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Canadians protesting in .Canada.

    In the last interview, a young woman volunteered that she got to BC for free. I think George Soros spent a bundle financing all these protests.

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  54. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I have to modify what I said previously. It sounds as if someone provided transport for her from a community nearby. Still, I would like to see our government provide George Soros with a one way ticket back to Hungary. I don’t think Israel would take him. Golda Meir turned away Meyer Lansky.

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  55. Spawny Get says:

    Early days, but…

    Tiredofeulies
    20 minutes ago
    A poll puts Paul Nuttal 10 points ahead in Stoke by election

    35% UKIP
    25% Labour

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  56. Cill says:

    “The World’s Least Affordable Housing Markets” (Farm Boy 24 January, 2017 at 6:01 am)

    Of the 10 cities listed, the top 9 are on the shores of the Pacific.

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  57. Spawny Get says:

    iirc Hungary’s leader is not a Soros fan. That’s putting it mildly

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  58. Spawny Get says:

    If laba loses Stoke to UKIP you’d best have a decent stock of popcorn in. You’ll be seeing the start of the death throes of our democrat party, my beloved laba party bwahaha

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  59. Spawny Get says:

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  60. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Cill,
    I wonder hat a rep;lay of the ’06 earthquake would do to California property values. The financial district in San Francisco would have glass in the streets to a depth of three stories. That earthquake is long overdue.

    Spawny Get,
    Hungary may not take him back? George is in big trouble.
    It would be good to see UKIP win. I would also like to see the Monster Raving Looney Party pick up a few seats. They would be more responsive and responsible.

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  61. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    That is, they would be more responsive and responsible that Labour, Liberal, or Conservatives.

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  62. Farm Boy says:

    There is a new post

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  63. IMHO we need to keep friends close, and enemies closer. Prison may be the best place for S)ros.

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  64. JDG says:

    I think the “Grow Up Plan” has more to do with physical growth than maturity. I do have an idea. Teach them how to make sandwiches and both issues may be solved.

    Fuzzie you were reading my mind about the sammiches. The whole time I was reading the post I was thinking “If they were in the kitchen making sammiches this whole conversation would be moot.”

    As for the Democratic Party, they ceased to be relevant when they dumped working families for feminists. Like the old joke, they need to be told to fall down.

    Sadly more than the Dems are doing this. Practically the whole of all Western societies are sacrificing families for feminism. Every step away from patriarchy is a step towards feminism and another strike against families.

    Show me a nation where women make sammiches for their men, and I’ll show you a nation with strong families.

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  65. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    JDG,
    It wouldn’t have to be sandwiches. It could be simple food of any sort, allowing for culture.

    Bloom,
    George could join Hillary and Bernie’s Bridge Club. 🙂

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  66. Spawny Get says:

    Funny yet depressing. How much privilege do these women have? They’re barking mad. Perhaps it’s the Female version of Attention Deficit Disorder that hits post wall. FADD? Or Attention Ho Reality Deficit Disorder?

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  67. JDG says:

    Fizzle, yep. Like tacos and, dare I say it, burritos.

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  68. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Burritos would work. Also piroshkies in Eastern Europe. Egg rolls in China?

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  69. CalloftheMGTOW says:

    Why are women tripping on such a small issue? Don’t men judge coworkers on competence, and not really care about what a woman’s personal interests are? Is she stating that ALL STEM guys are D&D players? If you let something as small as this prevent you from working in the most well paid field in the US, then maybe you aren’t cut out for it. I fear how a woman like this takes criticism, positive or negative.

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