Over at RPG’s blog, commenter Sergey states,
I think, modern world is increasingly a walk in the park for men.
You are no longer have to provide, you don’t have to protect, you don’t have to commit – just be able to attract, and you’re good; and given that women are considerably more than men attracted to ACQUIRED SKILLS rather then to genetically predisposed traits – it’s a matter of effort invested for us, guys, really. Build up your body, build up your confidence, build up a career – this advice is way easier to follow then “you should’ve born beautiful” or “stay 26 forever”. As a man, time works for you, you gain points every single day after 30, just by not turning into couch potato.
And for ladies, it is increasingly rougher deal. Jump through society hoops – and you’ll reach a bare accepted minimum (degree and a career) few years prior to your fertility window is about to close. Ignore them – and prepare to be ostracised as a gender traitor by your own peers. Take a risk to engage with modern-day non-committing men – and you have somewhat 33% to 50% chance to end up as a single mother (and this SUCKS). Avoid that risk – and hello spinstership. Every year after 45 would increasingly resemble the Hell on Earth: a choice between another year of crushing loneliness and radical lowering of your standards and pairing with a man you’d never willingly chose back in your prime years.
Young women have extraordinary leverage. They have the power over men. It is obvious to them at a young age that they have this. They are encouraged to use it to their “benefit” to the fullest extent.
Young men, on the other hand, learn that this is the way that it is. Women have the power — and they don’t. For many, this stays with them as they age. Often they do not truly realize that the power shifts to them. The momentum of how things were in the younger years is strong.
But many other men are like those that Sergey describes. They develop their skills. They can attract women. They are now in a position to do leveraging. And many do just that. Many older divorcees and spinsters are really not worth more than F-buddy status to these men. This comes as a shock. They expected the momentum to never dissipate.
Now, on to RPG’s question,
Are Women Being Raised to Fail?
Why yes, yes they are. Spending their years of highest beauty and fertility goofing around; developing an outsized sense of entitlement while doing so. Becoming unmarriagable to a wisened cohort of men. But at least they are empowered.
P.S. NAWALT applies
I answered Sergey over at Bloom’s. It is not so sweet a deal as he makes it out to be for men. While men can avoid protecting and providing by remaining bachelors, there is a downside. Older women are pickier than younger ones and hypergamy has gone over the top. I think a lot of people are staying in. Anyway, what is in it for men when modern women are not feminine?
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Anyway, what is in it for men when modern women are not feminine?
Still have the all important V they do
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That may be fine for short term but more is needed for long term. This will prove to be a problem for women.
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Sergey if you’re who I think you are, delighted mate. Truly delighted. And if you’re not, congrats on a good comment anyway.
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Cill,
Sergey said, over at Bloom’s, that he is a Russian immigrant and he is married. Does that help?
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‘fraid not Fuzzy. It’s not him. At the age of 32 I’m in some ways a very old man.
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I wish that I could have helped. He is a very good commenter.
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I disagree that men can just have fun now. Men still provide and protect, through taxes. Instead of consciously choosing how they want to work on their community, they just hand in their paychecks and the government chooses for them, with loooooots of overhead, corruption and downright stupidity.
Where I currently live, there was money to organize a free soccer tournament for kids from the bad neighborhood, rent a DJ (friend of the organizers of course), but not to fix the street drain on a parking lot, so cars in the slightly better neighborhood were standing in water after the rain. Instead of being able to give someone a hand up, they are forced to pay for handouts. And nobody says “hey thanks for working so hard to build that school”.
Sure the dating scene gets somewhat easier for them. But all the good women get snapped up rather quick, so all they do get is leftovers for casual contacts. True companionship and loyalty, not so much.
Men only have it easy when they settle for superficiality in their love lives.
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You always were a hard bastard to take exception to, Fuzzy.
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I have been told that hard man is good to find. Isn’t that what all the PPPs say?
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“Are Women Being Raised to Fail?”
Yeah.
But in some sort of biblical prophecy fulfilled, they are getting exactly what they think they want and deserve…and then it all crumbles to dust for the majority. And I’m not sure how the minority signal that they’re convincingly different from the women broken when the disparity between how they think things work in their glory days to how they actually work after hitting the wall becomes clear.
Whatever I am IRL, I don’t have a need for a woman. I find it easy to deal with women IRL, I have no problem with the superficial politeness that western society requires. But that’s it. I am not interested in taking on the drama of a female in my life, I don’t like drama.
You raise men till they’re thirty seeing what women unleashed are actually like and they’ll not hold women in high esteem. And basically you’re offering such men an ex-carousel rider…and that amounts in many ways to a failed, weak, delusional, neurotic man with a gyna. And you wonder why men treat that as a fuckbuddy?
I think that males inherently like females in childhood. But you can kill that like. And it never comes back. It doesn’t turn into hate, it becomes indifference. And there’s no mechanism for reversing that that doesn’t just come down to sex. And old women just aren’t the fantasy sex partner of choice for men of any age. And women know that, that’s why every single thing about female youth is the basis of an industry to exploit women’s desperation to deny the wall. My sexual fantasies do not include women of my age, so that propaganda that Ton linked to yesterday about age appropriate relationships? That’s a load of old codswallop aimed at making women happy and maybe a few remaining suckers.
Having said all that, I happily confirm that I’m not all men. And that my personality is…unusual. Ain’t nothing borderline about this INTJ.
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Confirmation(?) that the Guardian, a prime part of the Lugenpresse, pwned by Godfrey Elfwick
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So long as women insist on behaving like defective men, they’ll only ever be valued as a wet hole.
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Spawny you make me worry, my husband is my age, oh no oh no oh no, what if he can’t perform as I age? He’s reaeaeally visual. I don’t want my sex life to stop just because I’m getting older…
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HHW you need to check out Dalrock on the subject of the husband in love always seeing his wife through the glasses of when they married. Something like that. It will reassure.
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Codswallop? Man I am going to Trott that out one day soon
Bet it will make me sound classy as fuck.
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Ton, you have no idea how is it easy it is to trot out a load of old pony and be perceived as cultured. I didn’t know codswallop sounded that good, it’s not really a posh word at all. Can be shortened to ‘cods’
load of old pony (unsaid and trap rhyming slang)…load of old crap
HTH
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and Northern Monkeys
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http://abc7.com/video/embed/?pid=1630004
http://abc7.com/news/video-socal-parking-lot-fight-turns-into-demolition-derby/1630417/
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Nigel Farage has sent the international establishment media into a tailspin by telling them that they are wrong on climate change, wrong on immigraion, wrong on radical Islam – and that they need to change.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/11/30/farage-spoke-media-conference-journalists-lost-minds/
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A local homeowner association has ordered the wife of a deployed Marine to stop flying the American flag outside the couple’s home in Oceanside, Calif., because it violates the association’s rules.
http://heatst.com/politics/california-flag-marine/
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Bit dark, but that’s okay as there are no special snowflakes round here

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Nigel Farage savages the biased media to their faces at media conference
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This sounds like the humane path to a higher median IQ

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US election results in image form

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Dammit. .I can never get in here before the shitposting starts.
Lots to chew on.
For most men, things will look up if and only if they start taking a more red pill approach to life and women. That’s going to mean no marriage and no fatherhood for most of them, for the reasons I have written about at length here (TLDR: Most men will never be attractive enough to get and keep one woman long term.) It’s also going to mean no college education, and instead learning a trade and working with their hands and bodies.
Sure they can build their bodies and their bank accounts. But they won’t be able to – and shouldn’t – share those things with a woman, at least not long term. that’s going to require him to keep his emotional distance from women, have sex with them, have short term relationships with them, and leave them the moment the relationships stop benefiting him in any way, which is usually within 6 months. Despite what some women tell us women find attractive in men, women are not sexually attracted to men exhibiting “emotional availability”.
I don’t think it will be so rough for women. They’ll adapt. What I see is most women having or adopting one kid as a single mom. They’ll live their lives working their jobs and having careers and “full lives”. The wealthiest of them will become the Kate Bolicks of the future. Down the SES totem pole, they wont attend wine and brie parties, but they’ll do fine. And all but the ugliest of them will be able to get sex to scratch the itch whenever they want.
As for FarmBoy’s commentary: Women have the sexual power. And I think more and more men will just increasingly say “no” to women. I don’t think this is a display of male power, or at least it will not be. It will be more a measure of self preservation than anything else. I think the more attractive men will initially use women as friends with benefits, until these women start demanding more or catching feelz. Cue the “I’m out” most men in the know will give them. But most men won’t be attractive enough for that. They’ll have to offer commitment to get any kind of sex, and more and more men, even men who have never heard of this Red Pill thing, are not going to be in a position to do that.
Its clear that quite a few Red Pill concepts are making it into the mainstream among a lot of men. Chief among them is Alpha Fucks Beta Cucks. In the blogosphere/politicosphere at large they don’t call it that of course; but they see it and know it’s there. The dumbest, dullest, most out of touch men are noticing how women play the game.
They’re also noticing how marriage is a shitty deal for men. Every man over the age of 16 with two brain cells to rub together either knows another man who’s been through the divorce meat grinder and lost his kids and a shitload of money; or has been through it himself. They all see it. Hell, they also talk to their married friends who complain nonstop about their marriages. Their married male friends get little to no enjoyment from their marriages.
So it’s going to be “different”, but not exactly like Sergey and Farmboy think.
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I’m shocked! Shocked I tell you! I had no idea that the shitposting ever stopped.
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It’s 20:30 here, that is by any definition shitposting o’clock
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Deti,
Posts normally posted at 7:00 PM Eastern US Time on Sunday, Tuesday, Thursday and Friday they are
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The better sort of Americans think anything ur-a-peeing is swanky and generally aren’t aware of the various class markers on your side of things
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Alphas have the sexual power
While otherwise in agreement with Deti. Plus we’ll start seeing a lot more women sharing a man openly
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One of the toughest parts of the “new normal” for men will be leaving a relationship when he has no other sexual outlet. He has to leave the relationship because it no longer benefits him or the burdens outweigh the benefits. He has no choice.
So his options at that point are
–suffer the dry spell
–make sure you follow Roissy’s Rule and “always keep two in the kitty”; always be spinning plates.
Problem is, a lot of guys are not going to have what it takes to spin plates. So it will be the dry spell for them. Still preferable to staying in the bad relationship, though.
Men are going to have to suck up that part of it.
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Aren’t most of the men not who are incapable of spinning plates already in a dry spell?
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Just got an alert on the Firefox browser via the WordPress security guys
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how do y’all see this playing out over the longer term … say like, the next hundred years?
seems like fewer children born. fewer grandchildren and great-grandchildren. what will they take away from all this? what will they want to change? will they be able to?
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Ok before I start crying I wanted to see if you guys think this is legit? The man is a brave, brave soul. I hope it is not true, but one would think he’d have surfaced post election scuttle? Sniff. 😥 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ka7s7CLLYo
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The only trouble with that photo Spawny is in the movie, she survives
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Never watched it, but I believe you. 😦
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Spawny,
Thanks for the “heads up”. I am not running Firefox but it is very popular.
Bloom,
I hope that it is not true. To take him from the Ecudorian embassy would be a violation of their sovereignty. Unless that sovereignty is respected, diplomacy can’t work.
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I think there may be a hole in Deti’s bleak prediction. To separate the sexes would require a huge transfer of wealth from men, who produce and create it, to women who consume it. In a marriage, the transfer is from husband to wife and it is understood. They are a team and this is part of the social contract. In Deti’s vision, there would be no marriage. The transfer would have to be through taxation of men with government checks sent to women on a scale more than double we see today, considering 50% of adults are married. Alternately Business and industry would have to pay women a heck of a lot more and increase benefits to insupportable levels, at the same time, rolling back men’s wages to depression levels. I don’t see either scenario working. It would be beyond tolerance.
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Ton,
A society in which alphas get all the women and betas get none will not stand very long. Betas are the productive segment and this disincentivizes them to produce. If you aren’t carrying a family, why put the effort in? If you are unlikely to attract women, why try to impress?
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Getting back to the original post, while woman are advantaged in their youth, by virtue of being attractive, if they act on it by riding the carousel, they ruin themselves for a long term relationship. In later life, they will be single and it will be for the rest of their lives. I don’t think that this little bit of truth has hit the consciousness of women in general.
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http://www.vdare.com/posts/americaland-wildfires-in-the-south-dont-interest-media-but-donald-trump-sent-his-regards
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Lol as if alphas aren’t productive
But I never said it was ideal; I said that’s how it’s likly to play out
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As automation increases I think the transfer of wealth from men to women will slow down
Mostly because fewer men with be employed
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“Titanic” very effective at the box office because melded “chick flick” with action movie it did
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Ashe Schow is no longer at the Washington Examinier.
http://www.cotwa.info/2016/11/ashe-schow-has-moved.html
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Ton,
If a light bulb needed to be changed, would you ask an alpha or a beta?
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I would do it myself or what ever employee was near by
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Lol Ton, I think he meant if one was a woman.
Since I am a woman, I’ll try to answer: if I could reach it, I’d change it. If its too high or inaccessible, I’d probably live w/o it. (like the one in my upstairs closet for a year now, lol!)
If any of you were around, I’d try to bribe one of you to do it by baking up some sweets! 🙂 I know some of you might say, “change it yourself sista!” But I have a hunch properly persuaded either you or Ton might help. Or maybe not… But I can be pretty persuasive. 🙂 I might need to break out some grog for Ton instead of cookies but you get what I mean, lol!
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So, you would delegate it to a beta.
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Lol, weird moment: I am w my youngest at an indoor play space and get to talking to the gal at the next table. She’s only 10 years older than me but has 8 grandchildren!!! Oh vay don’t I feel like a late bloomer, lol!
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The employees time is less valuable then mine
He can drive a truck, I can salvage a multi-million dollar trucking company, preserving jobs, allowing men to provide for families etc
Who is more productive?
But you are also confusing our position in the company I own vs positions in the SMP. Not every owner is an smp alpha, not every employee is an smp beta
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Cookies and grog? More like boobs and a g-string to
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Fuzzie, you need some cookies! 🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪
And for Ton 🍺🍻🍺
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The point that I was trying to make is that the bulk of work is done by betas and fear beyond their percentage of the population. If things continue as they have the betas will lose incentive and minimize their efforts.
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Lol ok fine 🍻👙🍻
There is no g string emoji! Lol.
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She looked a lot more like a grandma than I do, not to brag or anything! 💃
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@ fuzzie, I think the discussion you had last night might be weighing on you. Cheer up, bear. It’s not all bad. Alphas aren’t immune from the hardships of life and none of is are going to get out of here alive anyway.
When I am in a funk I think of all I have to be thankful for. Even the simple things. A roof over my head. Health. Clean water. Food. The Internet! All you guys! Etc. 🙂
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Not that I am saying you guys are simple, that came out wrong! 🙂
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Bloom,
You have a point. It is the dread of the inevitable confrontation. It is not who I am.
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I get it bear.
On another topic, I am all for free speech but I like how this guy puts it: Michael Nöthem
@mikandynothem
Nov 28
Those who would disrespect our flag have never been handed a folded one. #tcot #MAGA pic.twitter.com/33f5Z2UXHO
Well put!
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What The Ton is great full for
Titties and beer (titties and beer)
Big old titties and beer (titties and beer)
I thank god almighty for titties and beer (fat titties and beer)
Hunting two legged deer (titties and beer)
Thank god I ain’t queer (bring him out here)
There’s one thing daddy likes and thats titties and beer (big fat tits and beer)
A little titties and beer I said great big titties and my beer
God I love those mother-fucking titties and my beer (big old titties and beer)
Read more: Rodney Carrington – Titties & Beer Lyrics | MetroLyrics
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I disrespect the flag because of how many folded ones that have been needlessly handed out
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I get that too, Ton. I’d say you have earned that, unlike some little punk a** sjw.
Cheers! A man of simple needs you are! 🍺👙🍺(sorry, no titties emoji either! Lol)
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lol! that is SO my husband’s kinda song!
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i agree, Bloom … one must earn the right to disrespect our flag.
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Game doesn’t just apply to pick up. Check out T’s game moves here. Dang, smooth talker! (Or BS’er, or are they they same thing? Lol)
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.timeinc.net/time/4586503/donald-trump-pakistan-prime-minister-readout-nawaz-sharif/%3Fsource%3Ddam
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Disrespecting the flag is definitely a family thing. Sure, I can fight with my brother, but don’t you dare lay a hand on him.
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I admittedly know next to nothing about the Paki regime but I do know they are intertwined w both Asia and the East… An engineer I once worked w from Sri Lanka considered them East Asian, more aligned w India/Sri Lanka/Asia rather than Mid East but I am not sure if that’s accurate. A bridge nation, of sorts? Hummm…
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That overly complimentary rhetoric is also somewhat an Asian thing… Could be a cultural approach, too.
T is and interesting character, for sure. I hope he does us proud. Maga.
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India and Pakistan are not aligned in any format or fashion
Unless it is all lined to shoot at each other
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@ Ton, actually true… I dunno. This was years ago. I am a girl.
La la la la… know next to nothing but think I know… just like a girl!
Shhhhh. I will be quiet now… maybe… lol
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Maybe the Patriarch knows this, isn’t Pakistan a post colony creation?
So much world history… So little memory brain cells left…
Shhh… Oh I said that already, didn’t I!?!?! Lol.
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In retrospect I am not totally sure that co-worker was really from Sri Lanka… He sure talked about Pakistan and Afghanistan a lot… Sympathized heavily w them. Had many buddies from those parts. Again maybe the Patriarch who should awake soon knows the connections there between the Stan’s, Sri Lanka, India?
The older I get, the more I realize how little I actually know. Maybe by the end I will know nothing at all? Lol!
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Pakistan is all the muslims from India taking a province and starting their own country. Kind of place where little girls get sentenced to group rape by village elders for having been raped by their brothers.
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Re Assange
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The re-run of the Austrian Presidential Election occurs on the 4th. Re-run due to fraud in the first run, fraud to stop the ‘far-right’ (= somewhat to the right of the far-left) candidate.
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#CurrentYear

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#WeReFull
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/01/record-number-eucitizens-came-live-britain-last-year-says-ons/
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The state of politics in the UK
https://twitter.com/daily_politics
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They don’t like it up ’em
http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/30/leftists-lose-their-minds-over-list-that-tracks-liberal-educators/
(my boldy)
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I hope he’s ok slaw you. I have heard people are skeptical w the lack of video or photo proof but let’s hope!
I wonder why the msm isn’t asking where he is, and what his thoughts are about the election outcome, etc. are, too? Seems logical they’d want to follow up.. Maybe if a Kardashian was involved they would pay more attention?
sad, the state of journalism today…
Disturbing.
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Slaw you was supposed to be Spawny. Oops!
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Jill Stein, cat woman
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To answer the original column.
The patented 1 in 5 rule.
young women spend their entire life’s currency in one decade 25-35 then reap the aftermath for the remaining 50.
Men, smart men, put up with the bullshit for the one decade then reap the rewards as their skills and value escalate for the next 5 decades.
IF….IF… If they avoid the traps set by the women in their decade and have to live out 50 years of servitude.
Choose wisely.
math is hard.
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I’ll leave this right here…..
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/relationships/dating/confessions-of-a-tinder-addict/news-story/86c1ea35bbe8adf99446498b88cb243d
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in case you don’t know … and need a little help finding out … if you’ve been naughty or nice this year 😉
http://meaww.com/activities/wallpost/40228941480563479?t=1480563480
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New post at my pad: https://notesfromaredpillgirl.com/2016/12/01/is-the-red-pill-going-mainstream/
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http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/738849/European-Union-Human-Rights-Watch-concern-EU-anti-terror-law-free-speech-eurosceptic
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There is a new post
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Spawny/Farm Boy/everyone 🙂 I’ve missed commenting… just so ridiculously busy these days. First grade for our oldest is intense (he’s at a rigorous science/math school and loves it LOL he even said this morning he wants to do math over the summer :O 😀 ). Yea, he does NOT get that from me LOL… my husband is the math/physics wiz.
Anyway, we’re pregnant again with our 3rd!!!!!!!!!!!! Sooooo happy… but I’m nauseous and vomiting all day and evening, but the 1st trimester is almost over (just a week and a half left I think). So hopefully I’ll feel more like commenting/writing.
Thank you Spawny for introducing our household to Stefan Molyneux. OMG both my husband and I have enjoyed listening to his youtube videos for a couple months now. We never would have found him I think if I hadn’t still kept checking here sometimes.
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Congratulations, may things improve soon. A STEM boy…we need more of these 😉 No pressure though
I’ll be sure to bring other content for you, take your mind off things. There’s a BBC Radio series called ‘Moral Maze’ which is usually pretty good. They’re on Youbend. Tarn said that she liked them
Here’s a start
But it’s been running for years, so feel free to be picky about the subject. It’s a radio show mostly (though some have video)
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Congratulations, Stephanie! 🙂 🙂 🙂
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