They Never Give Up


Probably most of you are familiar with GamerGate, where SJWs and Feminists tried to infuse the game industry with their silliness.  Well, they never go away.  They never stop.  Perhaps this is because this is an area dominated by boys and men, both in the creation and usage of video games.  And we just can’t have that.

Here is the latest,

“For decades, developers have focused on making games fun. It’s about time we started working toward other kinds of emotional responses than instant gratification,” argues Tim Gruver for the Daily UW. “Games like ‘Gone Home’ and ‘Papers, Please’ have spoken up for LGBTQIA+ communities and immigration reform. Games can teach, debate, and argue points rather than just entertain. And that need can directly translate to gamer culture at large.”

I am not sure that video games are just about instant gratification.  There is teamwork, planning, reaching goals and the fulfillment from doing such.  All of this appeals deeply to boys/men.

There is the suggestion that games could teach.  Of course they can.  They can teach how to pilot aircraft, attack a position, etc.  These are skills that boys/men are interested in.  Dealing with issues such as LGBTQIA+ are just not fun.  What boy want to have a game with that central to its gameplay?

“Games have the chance to create disarming experiences that disassemble our worlds and tell truths,” says Gruver.

Truth?  Or propaganda?

On GamesIndustry.biz, the site’s Editor-in-Chief James Brightman claims that a segment of the gaming population—one that he equates to GamerGate supporters—does not want to see any games being made that aren’t traditional Hollywood-budget shooters. Worse still, he claims that the games and the culture surrounding them are inextricably tied to the “exclusionary thinking” he says gamers exhibit towards certain kinds of games.

Well, boys/men like what they like.  Since they are beaten down / marginalized everywhere else, they can at least try to be men in these games.  Games dealing with LGBTQIA+ just won’t do that.

“That’s just faulty thinking – the Call of Dutys and Battlefields and so on will still be made,” argues Brightman against an imaginary foe. “And to demand that other types of games for people who aren’t ‘gamers’ not be made is flat out exclusionary and wrong.”

“And that’s just it, isn’t it? The same undercurrent in society that produced Gamergate, the alt-right movement, Brexit and now a Trump election (bigotry, misogyny, xenophobia, homophobia, religious persecution, fear mongering, etc.) are what led to exclusionary thinking in the game-playing populace,” adds Brightman. “’How dare you change my games?’ they’ll say. But they aren’t ‘your’ games; just because the industry has catered to the 18-34 white male audience over the last two decades doesn’t give you some special claim to the medium. Just like movies, books and TV, games are for everyone.”

So this guy throws out a strawman.  The idea is that Gamers demand just their kind of games, and are not open to other types.  This is just plain silly.  If somebody wants to make LGBTQIA+ games and the like, most gamers would be just fine with that.  The barrier to entry is low.  Just start coding up your game (probably using a game engine to make it all easier), then put it on Steam.  Creation capital costs are low (just your time) and distribution costs are even lower.  So go for it.  Create these politically correct games.  Distribute them.  What are they waiting for?

What gamers are really worried about is some heavy handed interference.  Things like consent agreements by the developers to insert political correctness into the games, to hire some percentage of female developers, to make games specifically targeted to women, etc. All of these would increase the developer’s costs, and would need games that boys/men actually like to cross-subsidize them.  So there would be increased costs / decreased selection of games that they actually want.

Fortunately the gamergate people have pushed back hard.  Furthermore, the US Department of Justice hopefully won’t be sticking its nose into this in the next few years.  But in the long run, who knows what will happen.

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46 comments on “They Never Give Up
  1. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    They could develop their politically correct, “educational” games and distribute them at no charge. They still have to overcome the hurdle of finding people to play them. It’s not going to work.

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  2. It’s the modern version of “give boys dolls instead of trucks and guns, and then they won’t be so boy-like.” When that didn’t work, they went to unisex toys, thinking if kids got neither dolls or trucks/guns, that would somehow change human nature.

    And actually there already ARE oodles of games that are aimed at girls or include the types of scenarios described above, so it’s not like those games aren’t available or that anyone can’t create them.

    If there is a market, it will sell. What sells is what developers will make. It’s called a free market. Forcing developers to make games nobody wants to satisfy someone’s “feeeelings,” someone who btw doesn’t have to pay those developers or any of the other costs or even understand the biz but wants to influence regulations imposed on it, is part of the insanity that is killing small biz in this country!

    OMG don’t get me started on all that…

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  3. Farm Boy says:

    Sometimes when markets don’t work well, the government needs to step in. What would be the true justification in this case?

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  4. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Farm Boy,
    There would be no justification. This is all feminist meddling.

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  5. Farm Boy says:

    There would be no justification. This is all feminist meddling.

    Yes, that is the point. They might say something about fairness or the like. But then one can say, “low barriers to entry”. “Put your effort where your mouth is”

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  6. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Farm Boy,
    You have a point. They are good at eliciting sympathy. But, people are tired of them and their endless requests for modifications.

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  7. Wasnt there some broad a while ago making “dolls” for boys?
    Yeah when that fails she can try coding games.

    And there are lots of games for girls. Farmville. Candycrush. Facebook. Snapslut i mean chat.

    Like any industry its open to womens’ time and effort. Royalties await!

    Just like somewhere in Alaska a pink crab boat is casting off with its crew of SIWs to seek thier fortune. ( huh? Really? But there was that movie with beautiful George Clooney?)

    Ok. A rainbow striped oil rig! (Seriously? It washes off!)
    Ok Turquoise chainsaws in the B.C. interior (but the song…I’m a lumberjack and I’m ok!)

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  8. Im not up on my acronyms. Lgtbq i get. IA+?
    Inter anal with a big….?

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  9. Oh. Trigger warning!!!!

    Too late!

    My bad.

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  10. Farm Boy says:

    Im not up on my acronyms. Lgtbq i get. IA+

    I don’t know either. I am a bit afraid to look it up

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  11. Farm Boy says:

    Here you go,

    If you’re just learning about sexuality, gender, and all these other things, they can be a little hard to remember. This acronym not only serves as a symbol of our movement for rights, but even as a memory tool for those who need a little help.
    L – Lesbian. Lesbian is a term used to refer to homosexual females.
    G – Gay. Gay is a term used to refer to homosexuality, a homosexual person, or a homosexual male.
    B – Bisexual. Bisexual is when a person is attracted to two sexes/genders.
    T – Trans. Trans is an umbrella term for transgender and transsexual people.
    Q – Queer/Questioning. Queer is an umbrella term for all of those who are not heterosexual and/or cisgender. Questioning is when a person isn’t 100% sure of their sexual orientation and/or gender, and are trying to find their true identity.
    I – Intersex. Intersex is when a person has an indeterminate mix of primary and secondary sex characteristics.
    A – Asexuality. Asexuality is when a person experiences no (or little, if referring to demisexuality or grey-asexuality) sexual attraction to people.
    + – The “+” symbol simply stands for all of the other sexualities, sexes, and genders that aren’t included in these few letters.

    http://lgbtqiainfo.weebly.com/acronym-letters-explained.html

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  12. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    They lost me after LGBT.

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  13. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    Papers Please is a game that simulates the hell of living in a communist shitistan, with terrorists attempting to slip past your little border checkpoint by blending in with the other potential immigrants. The only way that could be considered an argument for immigration reform would be in the sense of having and enforcing a freaking border, and carefully scrutinizing the folks trying to cross it. Given this guy has the latest and greatest LGBTWTFBBQ alias, I very much doubt that’s what he meant to convey.

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  14. happyhousewifey says:

    This is toddler behavior. When toddlers want to win a race, they will often tell you to go slower, or push you back, so they can run faster. You have to keep repeating “you don’t win by stopping others, you’re going to have to run fastest!”

    There are plenty of educational games. We have one that teaches spelling!

    You can use those rating systems and make it TW rated (for trigger warning) if it’s not girly. Will help sales of anything TWrated and keep the whiners quiet and create jobs for people to rate videogames (but this should be paid for by the whiners, of course).

    Wow, I’m solving all the worlds problems, I should be in politics!

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  15. SFC Ton says:

    You should be in the kitchen baking me Christmas cookies

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  16. happyhousewifey says:

    Don’t you people have thanksgiving tomorrow first? We’re going to do a turkey meal and pumpkin pie (any excuse for a feast).
    I was gonna prepare by making sugared chestnuts, but I had a bad batch 😦 all moldy. Next time I’m going to get pre-peeled!

    So since that is going so poorly, maybe I should just be going ahead with the politics plan…

    (Or do you like stale cookies?)

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  17. SFC Ton says:

    Stale cookies are an abomination before The Ton

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  18. Ame says:

    Cautiously Pessimistic says:
    23 November, 2016 at 4:00 am
    “the latest and greatest LGBTWTFBBQ alias”

    lol! that’s hilarious!

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  19. Ame says:

    my step son has tried to teach me how to play video games … i’m worse than terrible at those things. and the ways the screen moves give me motion sickness – ugh! he also loves to show me what he’s doing on his games, which is pretty cool, esp given that he’s really good at that stuff … but again, motion sickness, so i can only watch for so long.

    how guys make all those controls work to move their characters and watch all the info coming on the screen at the same time is beyond me. takes some skill, me thinks 🙂

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  20. BuenaVista says:

    LGBT = Liquorgunsbacontits.

    I read it on Facebook, has to be true.

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  21. thedeti says:

    I don’t know what this alphabet soup is.

    But Happy Thanksgiving to one and all.

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  22. thedeti says:

    And Happy Early Weekend to our friends from across the ponds and in the Great White North.

    BTW, where’s Blurkel been? Hope all is well with that guy. Used to love reading his stuff.

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  23. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Bluirkel has been silent for many months. His wife is a tyrant and holds the purse strings. He did tell that she has threatened his and we all advised him to bail. i don’t think that he ever did. The best we can hope for is that she cut off his internet privileges.

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  24. happyhousewifey says:

    Happy Thanksgiving you guys, I hope none of you get moldy nuts.

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  25. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    That would be uncomfortable.

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  26. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I am a silly bear.

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  27. Spawny Get says:

    Speaking of never giving up, here’s the Channel 4 main news. This is the media hysteria we’re seeing

    Does that look professional to you?

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  28. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    The press wouldn’t need to circle their wagons if they stuck to reporting news and didn’t take sides.

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  29. Yoda says:

    Media being bypassed they are
    Unhappy they would be.
    Sad I am not

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  30. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    They wouldn’t be bypassed if they weren’t so biased. Credibility polls place them lower than politicians.

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  31. Spawny Get says:

    Happy Thanksgiving, it’s tomorrow here

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  32. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spaswny Get,
    I don’t know if you follow him but CS MGTOW took his youtube channel down. The rumor is that he got doxxed.

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  33. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Are the two women in the picture holding up the Trump sign our very own Bloom and Ame?

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  34. Yoda says:

    Are the two women in the picture holding up the Trump sign our very own Bloom and Ame?

    Check boob sizes you should.
    “By their boobs known they shall be”

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  35. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Boobs they have but bright smiles more attractive they are.

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  36. Yoda says:

    Blonde they are
    Ton like them he would

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  37. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    They are happy. That makes them likeable. Grumpy women aren’t as good looking. It works the same for bears too.

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  38. SFC Ton says:

    Clearly The Ton is easy to predict

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  39. Much cuter bloom and Ame would be… Not to brag but… 😉

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  40. Ame says:

    y’all are hilarious!

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  41. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    It runs parallel to the original post. Feminists love to revise history.

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  42. Farm Boy says:

    There is a new post

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