A Code To Live By

Previously, we discussed respect here and here.  Men desire it.   It is often best obtained when men operate in packs getting the job done.  Commenter BV explains,

Currently I’m taking corn and beans out for a friend’s farms. We go from 8 a.m. to midnight or 1, provided it’s dry enough. I drive a four wheel drive Deere with a grain catch-cart, or a Volvo semi-truck with a 475 hp Detroit. This work pays $12-$15/hour. (One of the crew is a research chemist for Dupont/Pioneer; he takes VACATION time to get in the fields for 1/10th his lab salary.) I get more respect from the other guys than I ever got delivering a classified briefing to a three letter agency.

The fellas are operating as a cohesive pack.  It just doesn’t happen accidentally with fellas.  It is built-in.  Part of what makes it built-in is that men have a pre-disposition for adopting codes of conduct.  This is essential, as the pack needs to get the job done, and can only really do so if everybody is acting in accordance to the rules.  These rules become internalized as codes of conduct.

Consider the movies and TV shoes of old (e.g. Westerns).  The good guys (think John Wayne) had a code of conduct that they never would violate.  Even anti-heroes (think Clint Eastwood’s Man With No Name) had codes of conduct.  As for the bad guys, they really didn’t have one.  It made it easy to identify the good from the bad.  Men respect men with codes of conduct.

Note that adhering to such a code often requires sacrifice.  From the pack perspective, this is how it has to be; take one for the team.  But the team thrives.  And next time, maybe somebody else takes one for team, and it thrives once more.

Good teammates are essential, and respected by the rest of the team for such

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91 comments on “A Code To Live By
  1. Yoda says:

    Jedis have a strong code they do.
    Darth Vader did not


  2. RichardP says:

    “The fellas are operating as a cohesive pack. It just doesn’t happen accidentally with fellas. It is built-in.”


    – how do you have a pack except that you first have a group of people?
    – how do you have a group of people, from which to form a pack, unless you first decide to live civilly with each other?

    – what do you call a group of people living civilly with each other? Civilization.

    Seems that mens’ drive to do things that require a group effort is the foundation of civilization. Got men? Got civilization?

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  3. Yoda says:

    Following the code makes one feel to be part of the team it does.
    Satisfaction from this one derive they can


  4. Yoda says:

    Got men? Got civilization?

    In the third world, not so much this is


  5. Ame says:

    “Note that adhering to such a code often requires sacrifice.”

    sadly, women have decided that ‘sacrifice’ is a ‘double-standard’ … that women ‘sacrificed’ more than men, so they’ve screwed it all up to get out of ‘sacrificing’ themselves. all they’ve accomplished, though, is to cut their own heads off, and most don’t even know it yet 😦


  6. SFC Ton says:

    Civilization destroys small groups and packs and therefore is the killer of the masculine soul


  7. So the initial report is T said the unacceptable when he said he’d decide to concede when and if the time came.

    Why would he agree to concede in advance, not knowing the actual situation?

    IMHO (maybe not popular or accepted here) had Gore not conceded so readily, and had the people cared a little more than “let’s just get this over with” the world might be an entirely different place today… Just saying.

    We should always question it. If its close, we should always double check. It matters. Simple as…


  8. @ Ton do you ever tire of being so upbeat and optimistic? 😉 just kidding… Kinda. Smile buddy! You’re living the dream!

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  9. @ton let’s do another shot and say we survived the debate, anyway. Cheers! No offense intended above… I am loopy.

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  10. I couldn’t watch that wo a drink…

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  11. T did miss several wide open moments, not to armchair quarterback here but:

    When she questioned the source of wiki leaks as espionage, the obvious retort was her unsecured server…

    Likewise the commenter asked about bill’s illicit history w women but somehow it never got to that…

    There were a few other. But overall I’d say in a slanted game he held his own.

    Ak. I hope, I hope…. I may have insomnia until nov. 9.

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  12. Spawny Get says:

    Just watching a live recording now.
    I can’t believe what a shitbag illary is. Pretty clear that its personal anecdotes, feelz and for the wimminz. Defending partial birth abortion just because a woman decides it’s what she wants up till point of normal birth (last bit not denied by illary)? Shitbag evil cunt IMHO

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  13. Exactly spawny, how many times did she say she was for women and children?

    What about men, women, and children? Or women, children, and men? Or women, men, and children? Or male children who will become men?

    Because if she’s not for all three, she’s not for half of the population!

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  14. SFC Ton says:

    Let’s see…. if Gore was president we’d be speaking hajji and paying the tax jizyah

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  15. Is there a backstory to the Paris video? Is that a riot or??? Yikes!


  16. SFC Ton says:

    No Paris has been culturally enriched by its new diversity

    Coming to a city near you thanks to…. every president of “america” since Ike & all most all of them before Ike

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  17. It feels like the world is spinning apart. Those scenes from Paris. The despair. The inevitable conflict ahead. What a s#it show 😦 but how to stop the crazy train? What now?

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  18. Somehow I just knew you were going to


  19. Spawny Get says:

    And now men need to starve government

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  20. Spawny Get says:

    Potentially illuminating

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  21. Spawny Get says:

    You saw the ‘child’ immigrants allowed into the UK from France in the last few days, yeah?

    They’re pissing on us and telling us that it’s raining.

    They’ve destroyed UKIP in the UK. There’s no challenge to the Tories under May, who is pretty much the same as the old Labour under Bliar the warmongering ally of your neocons. Laba is committing suicide by heading lunatic left (like Sanders).

    Not a good situation here as we’re relying on the tories under May honouring the referendum to leave the EU, when 70% of MPs want to remain. 70% of their constituencies voted to leave, but when push comes to shove…who else are you going to vote for?

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  22. Spawny Get says:

    Look folks…hypocrisy

    for the LOLs

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  23. I just talked to someone I never would have guessed would be for T (lives in a metro area, is outwardly liberal) and he said he would vote T, except he wasn’t going to vote. So I talked him into voting and doing his patriotic duty. Hopefully.

    His hot button issue? Immigration. That one issue alone has him crossing the aisle. So I showed him the France video above, which he could not even fully watch, he reaffirmed that’s what we don’t want, can’t have. And so I asked him to consider voting, again (blink, blink, smile hopefully…)

    X3. Everyone could probably find 3 who think it but weren’t planning to vote, right?

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  24. Convince them it matters…. try…

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  25. SFC Ton says:

    Immigration enforcement has always been the best polling topic

    If you notice, the left always trides to sell amnesty by saying they will close the border AFTER they figure out solution that is humane to the illegals already here

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  26. That came up last night, amnesty. T said, nope. They can apply but they will have to get in line behind others already in the legal cue. My friend said, “Heck yeah, deport every one!” I was NOT expecting that from him, at all. So just out of curiosity I started to tell him the story H shared of the gal born here, terrified her parents will be deported, and he just waved it off, didn’t even want me to finish the story. Di;t care. Said, “They can go out and then apply. Life is tough.”

    Many more people may be feeling this who aren’t outwardly saying so. So many people have “confessed” to me they are voting T after they feel the waters a bit to test out where I am. I am hoping for a landslide. Or at least a clear margin.

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  27. Farm Boy says:

    When Reagan signed amnesty, the border was supposed to be closed. It didn’t happen. People intend not to be fooled again

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  28. I live in a solidly blue state, although in a rural area. Still most people I know who would not have voted red before are saying they will this time. It’s hopeful, anyway.

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  29. Farm Boy says:

    One wonders what is truly going on in Hillary’s head…

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  30. Farm Boy says:

    The email from “Bill Clinton” was sent in July 2008 after Hillary conceded the Democratic primary to Barack Obama. It was an effort to raise money to pay off campaign debt by offering a chance to win a dinner with Hillary in exchange for a $5 donation

    The email’s subject line — “The person I most want to spend time with” — was not ideal, according to Jennifer Palmieri, who currently serves as a top communications aide for Hillary Clinton.

    “Seriously? This is the worse subject line ever in an email from Bill Clinton,” Palmieri wrote to John Podesta


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  31. Farm Boy says:

    Peterson also refused to use gender neutral pronouns if asked by students.

    250 members of the faculty then wrote a letter condemning this lone defender of common sense, and forbidding him from commenting on a proposed law due to his having an Unapproved Opinion about it.

    The letter told Peterson that he must start using genderless pronouns if asked and that he needs to stop commenting publicly on the topic.

    The letter also claimed that Peterson’s refusal to use gender neutral pronouns could be considered discrimination



  32. Spawny, how/why did the Brexit leadership fall apart? Are there none still involved?


  33. Random thought I had, what happens to the pony when the one you bet millions on in exchange for future access, loses? Hummm…


  34. Peterson must adjust his right to free speech to conform to the demands of his listeners? And not talk about his feeling about that, either? That doesn’t seem “free.”


  35. Spawny Get says:

    Bloom, complicated. Nigel quit as leader right after referendum. Then it emerged that he was the only one holding the party together. Then Wolfe was finagled out of being able to stand for leader. As was Evans. Then Diane James won (she was okay). Then she only signed the I am leader papers under duress. Then quit 18 days later. This makes Nigel leader again. Then Wolfe gets knocked out in a UKIP meeting in a fight (?). He can stand for leader, but he quits the party instead. Now maybe Raheem Kassam(sp?) of Breitbart might stand (bit mouthy, but might be okay) vs a load of useless chancers (like Evans. She’s just really a Tory who fell out with the Tories. She’ll gut the party to make it bland and electable…and pointless as a Tory mini-me clone). Lot of ukippers very unhappy/leaving just as Labour falls apart. Meaning the Tories have no opposition, except themselves as they’re split horribly over BREXIT. And we haven’t even triggered the two year long leaving process.

    In this episode of Soap…


  36. Good interview: https://www.google.com/amp/nbc4i.com/2016/10/20/watch-colleen-marshalls-1-on-1-interview-with-donald-trump/amp/

    Local newscaster does better than national pros! At least in presenting what was actually said…


  37. Spawns, will Nogel pick the ball back up and take it to the goal? Hopefully!

    Was he threatened or something? Why did he drop out?


  38. In our case it would go to the vice, he’s not the same in many ways as T but still far better than the other duo…


  39. Excuse my not knowing but are Tories the equivelant of our D party, and labor the equivelant of R, or the other way, or kinda but not exactly?


  40. Yoda says:

    Watch this everybody should
    Funny at times it would be
    Very biting at other times it is


  41. Spawny Get says:

    The drummer is a star

    A ZZ Top song, pretty good show


  42. Spawny Get says:

    Labour is left. Our Corbyn is your Sanders
    Conservatives = Tories are alleged righties, but not really, even by our pinko standards


  43. Spawny Get says:

    There are rumours that he was threatened, or rather, more than rumours. There’s also room for him getting sick of trying to hold together a bunch of highly ambitious, narcissistic no hopers with a political death wish.

    I’m sure that he’s having much more fun giving Donald guidance on how to screw over a hostile media and a corrupt self interested to the exclusion of everyone else political elite

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  44. Spawny Get says:

    Trump really went to town in that speech. That’s what happens when those lacking social graces get angry…they tell the truth. Baldly. With barely concealed contempt and anger. How deplorable is that? Hard to ignore when someone like that looks you in the eye.

    A lot of ‘nice’ people just got publicly shown what illary is really like. Publicly. Ouch. Even as they condemn the speech as uncouth, it’s there eating them.

    Get in there my son!
    (Traditional encouragement of someone from a member of the deplorable English working class)

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  45. Spawny Get says:

    Just in case his accent obfuscates it for you, Paul Joseph Watson demonstrates the working class lack of grace when it comes to refusing to let whining shits skate on by with their lies. I like him. That is not a posh accent that he has. He didn’t come from money, not with that way of speaking directly.

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  46. Spawny Get says:

    Happy Trafalgar Day.
    Today is the 211th anniversary of a (repeat a) previous occurrence of the British fucking over a continental warlord with big plans for world domination (unlike beneficent us extending our Glorious Patriarchal Guiding Hand of Friendship (or else) all over the globe, obviously)

    Coming soon to the English Channel the glorious and impressive..*car-crash sounds*

    oh fuck, it’s the largest Russian fleet maneuver since the Cold War ended coming through the channel on it’s way to Syria. Watched by the puny Royal Navy, or what’s left of it.

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  47. Spawny Get says:

    It’s the double standards
    Trump not accepting election result ‘very different’ to me not accepting EU referendum result, claims Remainer

    Refusing to accept the result of a democratic vote is only wrong when Donald Trump does it, according to many Remainers today.

    With presidential hopeful Donald Trump refusing to pledge he will abide by the result of the US general election, Remain voter Simon Williams insisted it couldn’t be more different to his demands for another EU referendum.

    He told us, “Donald Trump saying the election is rigged before a vote is even cast is disgusting and throws a huge shadow over the entire democratic process in America.

    “But me wanting another EU referendum is very different – because I only said the result shouldn’t stand after I knew the result.”

    Further differences have been highlighted by Williams who insists that demanding a democratic vote be completely ignored is ‘perfectly democratic when I do it’.

    He went on, “Donald Trump is a reckless billionaire megalomaniac so bound up in his own dangerous rhetoric that everything he says should be immediately condemned. Whereas I’m a middle-class accountant from Basingstoke doing whatever I can to protect the future of my country – so to try and draw parallels between the two of us is pointless.

    “Remember, the democratically expressed will of the people is absolutely sacrosanct, unless of course, they were stupid enough to vote for something I disagree with, in which case we need to do it all again.”


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  48. SFC Ton says:

    Maybe Nigel has read some tea leaves and feels like Trump is a better horse to back? Or perhaps given his personality, Nigel prefers the role of agitator over the boring day to day details of party leadership.

    Always to many possibilities to speculate on these sort of things.

    My dream would be a secret plot to tuck all the English speaking nations under one central government with the goal of driving all foreigners from our lands, establishing stronger military/ economic ties, then dividing the world up into spheres of influence between us, the Russians and China so we can get back to the stability and prosperity of colonization while not stirring the other two’s kool-aide


  49. Spawny Get says:

    Interesting things not happening in France, or not according to the French media anyway

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  50. But isn’t Nigel bound to lead the movement he championed? I suppose he wasn’t necessarily running for office so it’s kinda different but… I’d think he would see it thru?


  51. Not to cricize, I am truly curious. I don’t get it…i


  52. Spawny Get says:

    Well…this is awkward


  53. Spawny Get says:

    Bloom, I am truly curious too. You have no need to apologise


  54. Spawny Get says:

    It’s a shame that the UK doesn’t work this way, but I’d love a US-UK axis lead by Trump and Farage respectively. And the rest of the Anglosphere can join in for the jollies. Party time with people that share (loosely speaking) a similar outlook on reality. I reckon that we could bump along okay.

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  55. Spawny Get says:

    Regarding the English Channel transit by the Russki Fleet on Trafalgar Day*

    *You know? The one where Admiral Nelson ran up the flags on HMS Victory for ‘England expects every man to do his duty’**

    Showing the flags from the end of the message, we have

    By J M W Turner – Wikimedia Commons — https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:J_M_W_Turner-La_bataile_de_Trafalgar.JPG, CC BY-SA 3.0, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?curid=45498208

    (** sexist bastard, what with all the wimminz back home suffering the most)


  56. Spawny Get says:

    Did the big Zero choose the timing to screw illary over?

    Or are he and his peeps too dumb to plan that far in advance? Foreseeing consequences of decisions is not exactly a lefty strength, after all.


  57. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I think there was a toast the night before.
    “Confusion to the enemy!”

    Since Jutland, over a hundred years have past but, they don’t seem like the differnce in the onehundred ten years between Trafalgar and Jutland.

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  58. Spawny Get says:

    Jutland was only ‘won’ because the German Fleet never left harbour again in WW I. At least not in a meaningful way.

    We had so many ships blow up / sink / get put out of action in the battle that to some minds, we actually lost. It certainly wasn’t a victory in the normal sense. Our ships were designed to be at sea for long stretches patrolling the Empire (i.e. the seas of the world), ze chermans had day-excursion boats that could be more closely designed for fighting rather than give the crew reasonable accommodation. Probably other factors involved (I ain’t no expert) the Royal Navy gunnery practices were optimised for speed of fire (a requirement of Nelson’s type of Navy – See the enemy? Attack and destroy the fucker with alacrity. Aggression). So hatches in the supply train between the magazines and the turrets were left open rather than sealed – allowing faster rate of fire, but also flashovers if the supply chain took a hit. A magazine blowing up being pretty much it for a ship. HMS Hood being the WW II example of a hit to the magazine obliterating the ship in seconds. As seen in the film ‘Sink the Bismarck’ which I highly recommend


    Admiral of the Fleet David Richard Beatty, 1st Earl Beatty GCB, OM, GCVO, DSO, PC (17 January 1871 – 11 March 1936) was a Royal Navy officer. After serving in the Mahdist War and then the response to the Boxer Rebellion, he commanded the 1st Battlecruiser Squadron at the Battle of Jutland in 1916, a tactically indecisive engagement after which his aggressive approach was contrasted with the caution of his commander Admiral Sir John Jellicoe. He is remembered for his comment at Jutland that “There seems to be something wrong with our bloody ships today”, after two of his ships exploded.


    Sink the Bismarck. HMS Hood, pride of the fleet, blown to smithereens at the 40 minute mark. Of 1418 souls on board, 3 survived.

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  59. SFC Ton says:

    Vote early, vote often

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  60. Spawny Get says:

    Come to think of it (over beer)

    “See the enemy? Attack and destroy the fucker with alacrity.”

    This doctrine was also on display in the ‘Battle of the River Plate’ film of the hunting down of the Graf Spee. The Captain of the Graf Spee was said to have said that the way that the three British Empire ships (Ajax, Achilles and Exeter) attacked his superior ship caused him to believe that they were just the edges of a superior force…they weren’t, they were all that we had in the vicinity.

    Fuck superhero films, these are the films that I connect with. 13 Hours was eminently relatable (I’ve not been in combat, but the film was very well made – the ever present concern of not knowing who was friend and who enemy must have been as stressful as hell). But that’s Ton’s realm,

    I think that Bloom or Ame gave a link to the film back a ways, the US title was different.

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  61. Spawny Get says:


  62. Spawny Get says:

    Clearly shot some time ago

    I’ve been on the ship (as a kiddy)

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  63. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    I’ve come to think (based on spotty coverage and biased sources) that UKIP is similar to the American Tea Party. The Tories are equivalent to the Republicans; the party that would ostensibly be fighting this issue, but isn’t. And like the Tea Party, UKIP scored a victory by the rules, and is currently in the process of finding out the rules don’t matter if the result is unfavorable to the mucky-mucks.

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  64. SFC Ton says:

    Most men are not fighters so the harder you go at them the quicker they shit and get.

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  65. SFC Ton says:

    These whacky urban yutus culturally enriched an apple store

    Notice what they say in the story. Pretty good example of how the media lies by omission and miss direction



  66. Spawny Get says:

    Ton, that’s awful news. Poor old illary getting caught like that. A real shame.


  67. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    Spawny, let me know if I’m mistaken. Like I said, I’ve got spotty and biased sources.


  68. Spawny Get says:

    The selective reporting over here (well, Europe) has the state making it clear that certain perpetrators shouldn’t be too tightly described.

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  69. Spawny Get says:

    CP, I don’t know that much about what happened to t he Tea Party, but I think that you’re right. UKIP was fine as a joke, but at the last General Election Labour started to lose it in the north of England with UKIP coming second in a lot of seats. It starts looking a little less funny for the Tories because UKIP could start taking their seats next time too.

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  70. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    Who wouldn’t fight when the rules say you can? People who don’t trust the rules. When do they fight? Maybe we’ll find out. Or not.

    Interesting times.

    Thanks for the info, Spawny.

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  71. Cautiously Pessimistic says:

    An aside: I know our cousins prefer to refer to a group as plural (A group are; rather than is, as God intended). Does that sound uneducated to y’alls ears? Or is it just comfortably foreign? I ask out of curiosity.


  72. Spawny Get says:

    Such is the BBC’s hatred of Farage…about as funny as rectal cancer

    The comments on the YouTube page show the public reaction (until comments are deleted anyway)

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  73. Spawny Get says:

    BBC Question Time used to be (pre-referendum) a lefty stitch up with a heavily left leaning audience and panel.

    They’ve been getting a rougher ride these days (this was last night’s episode), the panel is mainly remoaner politicians…

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  74. Yoda says:

    Hillary campaign worked with Jessica Valenti to write column branding Bernie Sanders as anti-woman



  75. Farm Boy says:

    There is a new post


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