Thirty and Looking

On a recent thread, mgtowhorseman stated,

A women’s hypergamy is now mainstream. They are open about their want for multiple partners and their bravery to embrace their sexual freedom.

So men seeing this can LOGICALLY ASSUME any late 20s girl has had 1 or 2 partners minimum per year so at least 10 to 15 by age 30.

So LOGICALLY a man can question

1. Have they met their lifetime alpha and so be alpha widowed and never again satisfied with any man.

2. If she has had so many why is she such a prude/uninterested in sex with me.

3. If interested in sex is it just a ploy to get things from me.

4. Why so many before you locked one down hence what is the missing factor the other guys saw to not lock down that I have missed?

5. If she could lock down, why didn’t she? Either Im that good (yeah) or she has a proven track record of not committing.

6. MOST OF ALL. If her almighty vagina is so powerful and all men want it, why did she Give Away Her Most Powerful Asset?

Women are proud they dont cook, clean, sew, home make of any kind. Any worthy man can provide for himself so doesnt want her business earnings. Ssssooooooo her sexuality and or beauty is her only commodity.

And anything given away for little reward can only be of little value to the giver. Its only logical.

p.s. The Biggest Gender Difference Women must learn.

Alone in our rooms

Given access to sex, fun, companionship
we can go our whole lives without Commitment.

So if you gonna make us want to do something we dont inherently want….ya gotta have something of value.

Shaming doesn’t make us want the thing being shamed for.
Shaming just wants you to shut up and go away.

Suppose that you are a thirty year old woman and looking.  What should you do?  First read the above blurb.  Did that make sense?  If it did not, then you need to do what it takes to comprehend it.  Because this is the reality.  What you were taught as the reality, really is not.  Probably you have noticed that things don’t seem to be working out exactly like you were told/expected them to?  Perhaps there is a reason.  The reason is that your model of reality is wrong.

Undoubtedly the first thing that you need to learn: you are not all that.  Your self esteem has been puffed up by teachers in K-12 and by lots of attention thereafter.  Almost certainly, you are not as great as you think that you are.  Let that sink in.

Probably you have attitudes and behaviors that have formed that are not conducive for long term relationship health.   This is a big area, so commenters, please chime in.  It will take much work to alleviate these.  If you want long term success, you will do so.

Lastly, as mentioned in the blurb, you need to have something other than beauty/sex on offer.  Those are good enough if you want sex, but probably not good enough if you want commitment.

I have not gone into much detail here.  I leave that up to the commenters.  What does such a woman need to know?  Perhaps more importantly, how does she get there?

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115 comments on “Thirty and Looking
  1. Ame says:

    this is interesting because i’ve really been taking the time lately to seriously evaluate how i want to ‘launch’ my daughters into adulthood … what do they need to know, to know how to do. what is important; what is not.

    anyway … also relate to “you are not all that” i’ve always taught them that this life is not just about you, so get over yourself.

    and … wow … the first commentor on the thread!

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  2. FNU MNU LNU says:

    Don’t be an insufferable bitch. And don’t believe that you can have equal say, if you come nowhere close to putting in equal effort.

    And heed the words of Chris Rock:


  3. SFC Ton says:

    With no offense to Farm Boy…. I am duck of the what should the 30-40 chick do.

    Not because the question is unimportant but because chicks in that age range seem to ask me that question every few days for the last 3 months


  4. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Farm Boy,
    Women have free will and they have been taught right from wrong. They are so powerful a force in the marketplace that they dictate terms and control it, leaving men to adapt and react. If the marketplace is a big mess, it is because they see advantage in it being that way.


  5. Yoda says:

    Published a day early this was.
    A time warp there must have been


  6. SFC Ton says:

    LOL at teaching women right from wrong

    Civilizations are built around the concept you can’t teach them right from wrong


  7. Yoda says:

    Civilizations are built around the concept you can’t teach them right from wrong

    Much truth here there is


  8. Yoda says:

    what is important


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  9. Yoda says:

    And don’t believe that you can have equal say,

    Especially if you make sense not.
    Be aware when you make sense not.
    Hard to do this is


  10. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    You reminded me that another Friday has passed without Tarn.

    If children are expected to know right from wrong, I think women can.


  11. Yoda says:

    If children are expected to know right from wrong, I think women can.

    The Evil Patriarchy useful for this purpose it was


  12. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    You may have a point. It may be that feminism has set women back on this point, and a few others. It has diminished the competence of women overall. Socially, this is dangerous as ways are sought to elevqte women.


  13. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    UK feminists have come close to running out of topics. Here is Kate Smurthwaite and Peter Lloyd.


  14. SFC Ton says:

    Women and children both have a limited version of morality, with lots of loop holes and soft spots, reason why xyz was ok this time but not that other time etc

    Can’t build a stable, functional society on loop holes

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  15. happyhousewifey says:

    Uhm, I suppose these would work if I were single now (am 31):

    – look nice (if you don’t smoke or drink, you can easily turn heads over 30)
    – have a good reputation
    – have your family set you up with someone!!!

    There are plenty men around 30-35 who have never had a decent woman (are probably disappointed in love, so extra easy to please), who would jump at the chance to marry (not just date) someone who has been pre-approved by those he trusts. I personally know several.

    I would never even bother going out with strangers. If I was single and in a rush to settle down, I’d just tell my brothers.

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  16. Spawny Get says:

    I pretty sure that Molly (a sometimes commenter from Kiwiland) has had her suitor pre-scanned by her brothers and cousins. Probably why Choicy didn’t get a chance 😉

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  17. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Word of mouth mat still work in this mesed up marketplsce. Tha is, presuming you get on well with your brothers. *silly face*

    Spawny Get,
    In all the time we have known Molly, she never did admit why Choicy was hot a candidate. The only thing that I can think of is that his “station” or ranch is so far off the beaten path, That he despairs of women to volunteer to live there. Choicy has mentioned this himself. The two are good friends.
    You have reminded me. We need some Molly bait!

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  18. mgtowhorseman says:

    Because of my first six points 99.5% of women unattached at age 30 are not suited for marriage.

    Also the ONLY real reason a 30 aged man will commit is children. His experience has taught him the “value” of offered female companionship apart from the sex and is therefore likely comfortable in his buddies, family, etc. to fill the social companionship void.

    So. Kids. Good prospect man. With options.

    Woman at 30. Lets say 32 by the time you meet, LTR, commit, get to the babymaking.

    Ok. Woman. First kid at 32.

    Anyone? Anyone? Hello?


  19. mgtowhorseman says:

    And if she already has kids….see number 3 and 4 and 5.

    Run Forrest Run.


  20. Yoda says:

    have a good reputation

    Wonder what “good” is today I do

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  21. happyhousewifey says:

    @fuzzywuzzybear: Actually the first thing my husband heard about me, ever, was “I have SUCH an unbelievably annoying sister” and then a story about his first holiday with his friends, when he was on the bus to Spain, having that ‘ahhh freedom away from annoying family’ moment ruined when he pulled out his snack, only to find my picture with the text “don’t think you’re free of me now” written on the back.
    To be fair I did used to serve snacks and drinks to said brother when he was entertaining, and so caught the eye of my husband some years later…

    30 is the average first-kid age in my country. It’s not ideal, but there you go. The 30+ men I know who are looking, don’t ‘just’ want kids. They have an ideal picture of themselves as providers (truth, believe it or not) and like the idea of what we call huisje-boompje-beestje (little house, little tree, little animal/pet, ie. White picket fence and marriage life).

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  22. Farm Boy says:

    There are plenty men around 30-35 who have never had a decent woman

    Indeed. And it really isn’t so difficult to tower over the competition. But they don’t want to do it. Odd.

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  23. Farm Boy says:

    Can’t build a stable, functional society on loop holes

    Women and loopholes…

    Hillary and her cronies…

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  24. Farm Boy says:

    If I was single and in a rush to settle down, I’d just tell my brothers.

    What if you don’t have any brothers?


  25. Farm Boy says:

    There are plenty men around 30-35 who have never had a decent woman (are probably disappointed in love, so extra easy to please), who would jump at the chance to marry (not just date) someone who has been pre-approved by those he trusts. I personally know several.

    You know several. Can they find matches?

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  26. Farm Boy says:

    Have they met their lifetime alpha and so be alpha widowed and never again satisfied with any man.

    I wonder what percentage of 30 yo women are alpha widows in the making…

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  27. happyhousewifey says:

    Farmboy – if you don’t have a good family or circle of like-minded friends, I think it is incredibly difficult. The whole dating strangers thing is a weird, awkward gamble.

    The men I know who are looking, have trouble finding quality, not quantity. They cannot find matches easily. Some have settled for mrs not-completely-psychotic. Some actively hunt for women a little further east, away from the cities, where morals are better. Some are hoping their latest girlfriend doesn’t turn into a monster over time (most common problem I hear).
    I know one who was divorced, they both had a right to alimony from the other, he never claimed his entitlement, she sucked him dry and when she regretted it, he still took her back. Older man, set in his ways, couldn’t get used to the changes without her. Poor fellow 😦

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  28. BuenaVista says:

    Single women don’t assume that an excellent lover in the past indicates they’ll never have another in the future. (Sure, when they decide to marry, they know where their husband fits in their loverboy hierarchy,) But the single women I know, and have known, are under the impression that there’s always another alpha widowmaker out there. They just don’t think about this matter in the way the OP suggests. Women deserve to have it all!


    I strongly question the premise underlying this question: “..why did she Give Away Her Most Powerful Asset?”

    Since only tradcon women, and even in churches now there are virtually zero, think this way, the premise that there is some contradiction in thought and action with promiscuous women is false. A woman surfing waves of men values chastity or even sexual discretion not at all. She would consider her empowered sexual freedom to be her “most powerful asset”, one that men are highly, highly privileged to enjoy, if those men are so lucky. An intellectual, professional woman (the type I know the most about) is generally very confused if a man says, “Actually, one of the things I liked about you is you married young and are sexually sorta naive. It meant you might actually bond with me, and I wasn’t worried about teaching you a few things.” (I had this very conversation yesterday, which didn’t go very well inasmuch as her self-image is that of a Strong Empowered Sexual Life Force.) They have zero clue as to where this observation is coming from, but they smell patriarchal oppression if it’s raised.

    And as Ton notes, it has nothing to do with any organized sense of right and wrong. (It pays to actually interact with women before making broad pronouncements about them, even on the internet.) This is because what’s right or wrong to your average female today depends primarily on what she wants at any given moment. “Right” or “wrong” as derived from any objective value set is merely a bludgeon, to these women, deployed by an unfair society to restrict, punish, or shame women. “I feel, therefore I am in the Right” is the short-form summary.


    My advice to 30-something single women would be to abandon the lie that they can have it all. They need to decide what their values are, what their relationship needs are, what they’re willing to compromise to achieve those higher priority relationship needs, and find a guy with his head screwed on straight and stay loyal to the plan and the man. One thing they’re going to struggle with is that men who have watched themselves, friends or father go through the divorce meat grinder are NOT going to have the absence of boundaries and lack of caution that the “I can have it all!” personality believes she is entitled to. (Well, unless he’s a pussy or a moron.) Another thing they’re going to struggle with is that feminism, in its aggressive form (Sandberg, Clinton style, not even the nut-job campus lesbian hate variety), is a mental disorder. They’re not going to find an attractive, accomplished, masculine man who is down with submitting to female-primary social rules.

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  29. BuenaVista says:

    Elaboration: I think most of us would agree that we live in a post-feminist, secular society.

    But even in a secular society, people retain the desire to worship; they just worship different things. (Dalrock has done an incredible service deconstructing how churchian churches now instruct parishioners to get with the program and do a better job of worshiping females.)

    One of secular, idolatrous objects of worship, in the words of the theologian Tim Keller, is “apocalyptic sex.” His point is that society is so sexualized now that regular old satisfying sex leaves many people feeling left out. Certainly the women aren’t spending a lot of time coaching up their men; the men are just supposed to “get it” like that alpha widowmaker she recalls “got it.”

    Keller goes on to articulate the secular worship of the perfect mate, the perfect home, the perfect family. His point is that presumption that earthly perfection should both be attainable and deserved is to worship false idols.

    (Basically, your career- and sex-empowered female, as the clock on her child-bearing years and looks ticks down, is afflicted by a culture of endless choices; she has the life equivalent of retail vertigo. Since good dating and love are not items on hand at the CostCo, however, the jigsaw puzzle of life, love and stable relations just doesn’t fit together. At this point, a woman starts to get seriously pissed off if she chooses a man she figures is right for her, and he doesn’t want to play by her (or Sheryl Sandberg’s) rules.)

    What’s ironic in all this is his introduction with his wife of unChristian wife worship, thereby bankrupting the biblical notion of headship. But that’s another set of issues that Dalrock already clarified.

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  30. SFC Ton says:

    I wonder what percentage of 30 yo women are alpha widows…

    Reckon that to be right around about 100% or so

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  31. SFC Ton says:

    A woman lies about being gang raped by 7 men and the real victim is….. a fucking woman

    An investigation by Charlottesville police found no evidence to back up Jackie’s claims and details in the lengthy narrative did not hold up under scrutiny by other media organizations. Rolling Stone officially retracted the story in April 2015. Since then, three lawsuits have been filed against the magazine. A judge earlier this year threw out one case brought by three fraternity members, but a $25 million lawsuit filed by the Phi Kappa Psi fraternity at UVa is scheduled to go to trial late next year.


  32. Farm Boy says:

    A woman lies about being gang raped by 7 men and the real victim is….. a fucking woman

    But of course. Women always suffer the most when men are screwed.

    This is the theme of the upcoming Hillary Administration

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  33. mgtowhorseman says:

    I have said before a realistic timetable is
    Introduction to courtship 6 months.
    MTR to LTR 6 months
    Ceremony planning 6 months
    Honeymoon period 3 months
    Pregnancy 10 months

    So average from first date to childbirth is at least two years. So if average first birth is 30 then the first date was 28, still Pre Wall.

    But LOOKING at 30?
    Even if Mr. Baby shows up tomorrow it is 32-33 before first baby. And why would Mr. Baby want Mommy to be 33 when he can get 25?

    Also I am 52. My youngest is in 4th year of uni at 22.
    Now empty nester I can watch tv or go to bed at 1100 not wait up for a roudy teenager with attitude.

    Imagine your 2nd at say 35. At FIFTY they are just 15,starting highschool and sex and drugs and attitude and all the teenage trouble.

    You 30 SIW think a 50 hour workweek is bad at 30.
    Wait til its an 80 hour week carrouling a couple of teenagers at FIFTY FIVE.

    oh and Mr. Baby at 50?

    He is now Mr. Established Silver Fox when you are Sooooooo post wall pre crone harpy exhaughsted chasing teenagers. What do you have to offer him when he still has options of your current compatriots the 30 to 35 SIW.

    Hmmmm. Long range planning….not a strong suit for SIWs.

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  34. happyhousewifey says:

    Silver foxes increase the chance of autistic kids, though.

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  35. Spawny Get says:

    From the past…or the future after BREXIT? (if it actually happens)

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  36. Spawny Get says:

    “Silver foxes increase the chance of autistic kids, though”

    Small increase from a low initial risk. There is no comparison to the risks of an old mother with Downs. This is one of those bollickular feminist demands that for things to be fayur(tm) then the very real risks of an old mother be the same as those of an old father…it’s bollocks.

    Only a feminist is fucking thick enough to not understand probabilities and to utter that shite. It’s on the level of the wage gap. Or rape culture.

    Away with that shit.

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  37. Spawny Get says:

    desperate times if they’re spouting this.

    Next they’ll be telling us that reading Breitbart gives you eye cancer.

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  38. Spawny Get says:

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  39. Ame says:

    BV – hadn’t heard Tim Keller’s name in a long time … looked it up and found the book; put it on my list.

    found this in my search:


  40. Ame says:

    ““Actually, one of the things I liked about you is you married young and are sexually sorta naive. It meant you might actually bond with me, and I wasn’t worried about teaching you a few things.” (I had this very conversation yesterday, which didn’t go very well inasmuch as her self-image is that of a Strong Empowered Sexual Life Force.) They have zero clue as to where this observation is coming from, but they smell patriarchal oppression if it’s raised.”

    – – – – –

    women really haven’t figured out that this is not ‘double-standard’ … it’s ‘standard’ … and they have screwed themselves trying to force women to be like men in having multiple sex partners. men were designed to be able to have have sex with more than one woman, but woman were not designed to have sex with more than one man. once again, men and women are different … and that’s not a bad thing; it’s a good thing – a very, very, very good thing.

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  41. Spawny Get says:

    Here’s Gabrielle

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  42. Spawny Get says:

    Don’t mention the soft porn


  43. SFC Ton says:

    Spawny with the atomic ellbow drop off the top rope

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  44. FNU MNU LNU says:

    Another thing I’ve seen, is mid to late 30s guys start to realize their own mortality, and then have their own version of “baby fever”. This has led a few to less than optimal choice in a spouse. Mostly former teen moms with almost grown kids, with some pre-cougar women who couldn’t find a mate before 40.

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  45. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Geting back to the original post, it would seem that by the time a woman has reached thirty, she has had so much experience that it makes hes unfit to be a wife, and by extension, a mother. We are up the creek without a paddle because, with all of them buying into the feminist life plan, none of them can be trusted as wives. All they can do for men is fill short term relationships from here on.

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  46. Yoda says:

    An artist and vagina-haver named Davison is “grabbing back” at Donald Trump’s p*ssy comments by painting a portrait of him using her own. That’s one way to do it!

    Davison, who went viral in March for painting Trump with her boob, painted two pictures of the Republican nominee with her hoo-ha as a way to protest him and his sexist comments.

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  47. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I think what American women have done is make a choice while they believe they still have options. In making the choice to have fun with the bad boy, they have turned away from men who would be husbands to them. While they think they can go back, that door has closed.


  48. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Do feminist artists have any sense of, I can’t even think of the word?

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  49. Yoda says:

    One of the things that emerges clearly from the Wikileaks dump of John Podesta’s email chain, as noted here previously, is the utter contempt liberals have for “everyday Americans,” and their cherished institutions like the Catholic Church. The left has no problem discussing how they want to force the Catholic Church to change so as to conform to the current leftist party line.

    But this Podesta email, posted right after the San Bernardino shooting last fall, is perhaps the most egregious yet:

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  50. Yoda says:

    Do feminist artists have any sense of, I can’t even think of the word?

    Fajina sense in life?

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  51. FNU MNU LNU says:

    So it’s cash for gash…


  52. Yoda says:

    Hillary’s Campaign Manager Robbie Mook made the call to hide her health issues from the American public.


  53. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I think the word “taste” best covers it.

    I have heard about Democrats feeling that they had the right to strongarm the Catholic Church. To give Catholicism credit, for the last five hundred years, they have tried to stay out of secular matters. It is like the Democrats do not want to honor the concept of the division of church and state. I wonder if they grasp the concept of pissing off over a billion and a half Catholics worldwide?


  54. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Rbel Media’s take on Yahoo. It is hard to believe that only a Canadian internet news oerg. would have the hair to call what is going down in Sunnyvale for what it is. Women harshly discrimihnating against men.


  55. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    I didn’t know that about autistic kids and how that could be used as a lever agianst men. Given a contemporary couple, would it be like her chiding her hubby for the damage he could do with tweezers while she has a hammer?


  56. SFC Ton says:

    Liberation theology came out of the rcc and they added much weight to the numbers of “American ” progressives

    Really fuzzie you should get our more. The Catholic Church has been knee deep in leftist politics for longer then any of us have been alive.

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  57. Spawny Get says:

    The Church of England is cuck central and has been for as long as I’ve been aware of it. That’s why it’s dead in society other than hatches, matches and dispatches. They’re a handy source of SJW quotes for the meedja who are in a sort of self-murder of their own credibility.

    AFAICS (as an amateur and outsider) US Churchianity is very similar, the main difference is that being seen to go to church still gives social status in the US. Over here? Not really. It’s certainly not a negative thing to go to church here (afaics), but neither is it a positive thing.


  58. Spawny Get says:

    “Spawny with the atomic ellbow drop off the top rope”

    Thanks. I just hate these stupid fucking lies told by the weak minded for the feelz-good or the hatred of men (and women). I don’t normally much care what people think, but sometimes the stupid and dishonesty…they burn. And they can have real consequences for good people – that I hate.

    The only way to run a society is via addressing the real issues. And reality doesn’t give a crap as to what you, me, everybody thinks is fair. Age has harsher effects on the female reproductive system than on the male one…that’s reality. The word ‘fair’ has SFA to do with it.

    Women are better off having kids early. Men build their worth over time (given the right encouragement and incentives). So women wanting the proven successful men will need to aim older. Men want healthy kids so they will be better off aiming younger. The nett result is that there are mutual incentives that end up producing noticeable age gaps in some relationships. If both those people are happy, what’s the problem? Apart from the feminist hatred of any difference, and there’s no incentive that I can think of for a young man to want an old woman (and so young women wanting older men must be forbidden).

    You can try and build a justice system to even out some of the problems and help society function but when it’s hijacked by politicians it becomes just another shiv in the back of good people.

    Currently all of good people’s instincts for a better society are hijacked and exploited by the evil race baiters, communists et al. Trump should start the pendulum swinging back towards reality based society. Some of the changes are going to be painful to the mentally incontinent feelz people. Well BOGAHIC (I hope)

    Related. The cult of ‘fayur’

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  59. Spawny Get says:


  60. happyhousewifey says:

    I mentioned the autism thing not to negate the fact that women have a clock, but because I have heard both men and women take this into account in choosing partners and planning families. As well as mgtowhorsemans point, being 50 with a house full of teenagers… It’s not as important as it is for women, but still also important for men to start young. Just because you can pull a lot of hotties by being older and rich, doesn’t mean you’ll be a good father.


  61. Spawny Get says:

    I mentioned the autism thing not to negate the fact that women have a clock, but because I have heard both men and women take this into account in choosing partners and planning families. As well as mgtowhorsemans point, being 50 with a house full of teenagers… It’s not as important as it is for women, but still also important for men to start young. Just because you can pull a lot of hotties by being older and rich, doesn’t mean you’ll be a good father.

    I don’t have a particular issue with anything there.

    I would point out that increasing the risk of being hit by lightning by 5% wouldn’t worry me. But putting a second and third round in a five chambered pistol and playing Russian Roulette makes something already frigging dangerous into a suicide attempt.
    Both, under the writing style of fembots, would be described as ‘risk of X increases with Y’. It’s true…but taking it at face value requires one to be woefully gormless. The intent is deceit…and I fucking hate lies and liars.

    You should not see everything I wrote above to be aimed at you. I just have a visceral reaction to some of the lies uttered by the femeroids etc. (And no, I did not just accuse you of being one)


  62. Spawny Get says:

    BTW I have no dog in the fight over having kids at any age. I don’t have any (though I had the option decades ago), won’t be fathering any, don’t want teen kids around when I’m seventy.


  63. happyhousewifey says:

    I have a vagina though, so I’m entitled to be egocentric and see your posts as a personal attack. Also: RAAAAAAAAPE!!!

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  64. Spawny Get says:

    😉 That’s the spirit

    This message approved by the Glorious Patriarch

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  65. Yoda says:

    WikiLeaks on Sunday called attention to remarks made by CNN anchor Chris Cuomo in which he appeared to warn viewers that it was “illegal” for those outside of the media to look at emails from Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman.

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  66. Yoda says:

    Hillary’s campaign recognized that her health would be a ‘hyper sensitive’ issue.
    So they decided early on to avoid “calls for transparency.”


  67. Yoda says:

    Sunshine Mary used to drive busses she did


  68. Yoda says:

    Not dead yet she is


  69. Spawny Get says:

    Yoda, if it helps we could go with this instead

    Q: What were the last words spoken on the Space Shuttle Challenger?
    A: Oh go on, let her drive for a bit, it’s only fai *BOOM*


  70. Spawny Get says:

    Churchianity goes millenial


  71. Spawny Get says:

    Too soon for Challenger?


  72. Yoda says:

    Watch this you should

    But only if high blood pressure you have not

    Important to watch it would be

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  73. Farm Boy says:

    Here is an index into the interesting Hillary wiki information


  74. Farm Boy says:

    Face analysis: How Hillary Clinton’s Resting B***h Face could be swaying voters


  75. Farm Boy says:

    Drudge tweeted a picture of Clinton on the Ellen DeGeneres Show, where she appeared Friday in her first interview following the second presidential debate with Donald Trump.


  76. Yoda says:

    Foval also tells Project Veritas’s undercover journalist that Republicans are less adept at such tactics because they obey rules: “They have fewer guys willing to step out on the line for what they believe in. … There is a level of adherence to rules on the other side that only when you’re at the very highest level, do you get over.”

    In another video, Foval admits that his organization is responsible for an incident in Asheville, North Carolina in September, where an elderly woman was allegedly assaulted outside a Trump rally.

    In that incident, the 69-year-old woman, wearing an oxygen tank, heckled a visually impaired 73-year-old Trump supporter, then pursued him. She claimed he then punched her in the jaw, though she had no visible injury; his attorney claims she touched him on the shoulder first, and then fell to the ground as he turned around. The national media covered her claims widely, while largely ignoring his. Foval explains that the woman had been “trained” as a part of his operation.


  77. Spawny Get says:

    Regards illary’s resting bitch face. Over here we have a saying that by 40/50(?) People have earned the face they have. I’ll put that down as proven, shall I?


  78. Spawny Get says:

    Just watched 13 Hours. Good film. Brave men.

    Liked by 2 people

  79. Farm Boy says:

    There is a new post


  80. Farm Boy says:

    Hillary Clinton admitted under oath this week that she doesn’t recall asking anyone for permission to use a secret server and email account during her time in the State Department, contradicting previous public pronouncements that she had received approval.


  81. SFC Ton says:

    It was a good movie
    While I don’t know the men involved, it did an excellent job portraying rather common mindsets and personalities involved in the trade

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  82. Farm Boy says:

    So now the Obama administration is overtly leveraging the full power of the United States to intimidate foreign governments, and most likely Julian Assange, in order to maintain control of the Executive Branch of the government. Does anyone within the mainstream media see any problems with this? Certainly Chuck Todd and NBC do not. And notice that even the NBC article refers to “alleged” Russian interference because not a shred of evidence has been presented to prove that senior Russian officials were actually behind the hacking of Hillary’s emails…but who needs facts when you have a complicit media eager to advance whatever propaganda is necessary to maintain power?


  83. Yoda says:

    According to Washington D.C. attorney Joe DiGenova, more FBI agents will be talking about the problems at bureau and specifically the handling of the Clinton case by Comey when Congress comes back into session and decides to force them to testify by subpoena.

    DiGenova told WMAL radio’s Drive at Five last week, “People are starting to talk. They’re calling their former friends outside the bureau asking for help. We were asked to day to provide legal representation to people inside the bureau and agreed to do so and to former agents who want to come forward and talk. Comey thought this was going to go away.”

    He explained, “It’s not. People inside the bureau are furious. They are embarrassed. They feel like they are being led by a hack but more than that that they think he’s a crook. They think he’s fundamentally dishonest. They have no confidence in him. The bureau inside right now is a mess.”

    He added, “The most important thing of all is that the agents have decided that they are going to talk.”


  84. Spawny Get says:

    The problem with Heat St is Louise Mensch.

    Louise Mensch is to lead a new website for Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp called Heat Street.

    The former Conservative MP has described the brand as “libertarian” and was promoting it on Twitter using the hashtag #NoSafeSpaces.

    “Disagreement will be encouraged,” she wrote in response to one critic, adding that it would be “free in speech and access”.

    Thanks all #HeatStreet #libertarian #nosafespaces
    — Louise Mensch (@LouiseMensch) February 15, 2016
    Mrs Mensch will be joined leading Heat Street by Noah Kotch, a former network producer who helped launch Vocativ, Buzzfeed News reported.

    Jim Kennedy, a spokesperson for News Corp, said the site would have a centre-right slant.

    “In a spirit of free speech and no ‘safe spaces,’ [it will] cover a variety of topics from a diversity of viewpoints,” he added.

    Sounds great, yeah? Except this centre-right leader was recently revealed to have been seeking work from the Clinton campaign. She sent a sketch of a proposed ad featuring female nurses etc saying, “I’m with her”

    The impression given in the twitter storm that followed the leak was that she losing it.

    She was also a seagull Conservative MP. It’s like a seagull manager, you know? Flies in through the window with a great deal of fuss and commotion (look at me!). Craps over everything and then flies off leaving everything covered in crap.

    Did have a pretty face before smashing it into the wall.


  85. Spawny Get says:

    Ton, I liked the guys. They were disciplined, competent (English understatement, remember) and experienced. As well as human. No superhero malarkey, just bravery, good planning (as far as possible), competence and teamwork. A male work environment with plenty of banter and bullshit that got put aside immediately when the threat emerged. Love it.

    I think that they low-balled the betrayal by those that could have supported them. The signs were there, but not in your face. I noted the number of survivors that resigned immediately afterwards, which suggests another part of the story. Either they were scared (I suppose), or more likely felt betrayed by the country that put them into a dangerous situation and then abandoned them.


  86. SFC Ton says:

    I think it was wise to not play up the betrayal from the stand point of entertainment and telling the story of the men on the ground. More folks saw the movie by leaving out the political and brave men now have their testaments. Extreme professionals, humanized without being degraded as is the movie norm these days and regular folks have a small insight into a foreign world

    Plus the political aspects go back to at least bill clinton, are fairly complex and would be diffcult to explain and keep the movie rolling.

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  87. Spawny Get says:

    It did leave the CIA station chief looking rather like a cunt, an ineffectual fool. I wonder to what extent that was fair? IRL he got a medal, so was that a buy-off or recognition that he did his job to a high level (all docs destroyed etc)

    I’d be interested to see a movie about that side of it, but that’s not lefty politics friendly, so that ain’t gonna happen.


  88. BuenaVista says:

    13 Hours left out two things, unfortunately:

    1. What was the purpose of a “State Department” mission 80 miles from a hot zone?

    2. Why was the person who set up the unsecure facility, aside from being a close friend of Stevens, charged with identifying that facility and organizing its security?


  89. SFC Ton says:

    LOL theoretically I could say a fair amount about the State Department. None if it particularly flattering

    What I will say is….their mission isn’t what reasonable people would expect


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