She Has To Have It


Captain Capitalism,

Now for whatever reason it may be, dance tends to attract more women than men and over the years, I’ve of course befriended several female students. They vary in ages anywhere from 24 to 60, but the one common trait they have is they are typically (though not always) single. And while not always, most of them took dance class half incented to perhaps find a guy.

But what is becoming a more frequent phenomenon is a question these girls ask;

“Where are all the guys?”

I never paid much attention to this, as it has always been the case that men just eschew dance classes, but it wasn’t until an older dance student of mine perhaps refined the question a bit and made it more pointed. It wasn’t so much “Where are all the guys,” as much as it was;

“I just get the feeling there aren’t any men anymore. Not just in dance class, but where are all the men from all the various social activities? They make up half the population, but I can’t find any single guys to date. They can’t all be married, even my female friends are running into this mysterious disappearance of men. Do they like stop trying after a while and just stay home?”

And that’s when I realized what she was asking.

“Do you mean, do men give up and don’t bother trying to find women any more?” I clarified.

She said, “Yes. So do they?”

“Yes” I answered.

She was somewhat surprised at my response. She said, “so they just give up? They don’t go out anymore? Don’t they want to find somebody? Anybody?!”

“Yeah, more or less.”

“That’s crazy! How do they ever expect to find anybody?”

I replied, “Well…they don’t.”

Regardless, the point was her reaction surprised me in return to see this was that shocking of a revelation to her. I always thought it was kind of common knowledge, men do indeed give up after a while, but apparently it’s not. 

My divorce was over a decade ago.  I was married for just a few years.  Before that — nothing.  As you can see, I am used to having droughts of decades.  Being a strong INT, I never really needed a woman, and with the modern crop, it was relatively easy to say no.

A few years ago, I got an email.  Somebody had left a message at my long unattended profile on an online dating site.  I logged in and checked it out.  I thought: “Well she seems to be really interested, I will see what she is like”.  We went to a local eatery  and she told me her story.  Then I told her my story, with its long droughts.  She was flabbergasted.  She said that she could never tolerated such a long period without a guy.  “How could you live without a woman” she wondered.  In her case, she was recently divorced and wanted to find a man as quickly as possible because she effectively could not live without one.

I wonder how common this attitude is with women.  Do they need men?  Do they expect men to have the same need?  Apparently the woman in Captain Capitalism’s story did.  Are they totally at loss for words when they learn that guys don’t operate like that?  How many of them do learn?

As for my date, she had lots of baggage and the relationship never really started.  The clincher was when she wanted to get it on on the first date.

 

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81 comments on “She Has To Have It
  1. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Farm Boy,
    I think you may have told us about her before. My guess is that you made a very good impression on her and she was willing to throw everything at the possibility, including the kitchen sink. Since it didn’t go any further, there must have been something else that you have not told us about.

    That Post from Cappy goes back a long way and I read when I first came to this corner of the internet. You would think that women in that age group would be “thirsty” as could be after reading it. The fact is there has to be something else going on to make them have a “meh” attitude.This attitude is what prevails in the marketplace.

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  2. mgtowhorseman says:

    They say they dont need a man and dont want one but they have difficulty filling their time without one.

    Consider how many wives just want their men to be in the same room e.g. watch tv with me. Keep them company at the grocers. Just be there.

    Compare to the guys who just hang out in the mancave or go for a walk. alone.

    Men tolerate or outright like solitude because they are doers. even the act of watching a sunset is doing. Women are feelers. Without another person what are they to feel about. Think about it. how many women go hiking alone?

    But the downward spiral has begun. part of BVs terrorstalker is she has targetted him as the one to fill her aloneness. Wait until the thousands of 40 divorcees turn 50 and beyond and no one will even make polite conversation in line at the coffee shop. imagine of thiusands of desperately lonely terrorstalkers.

    Luckily men can be happy alone. in the woods, the beach, in their single homes.

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  3. mgtowhorseman says:

    Like thougbts on the core question. Forget romance etc.

    Can women function alone in her house. Get up. go to work. come home. entertain herself. go to bed. Alone.
    Men do it all the time. Think Jeromiah Johnson.

    Basically can women ever truly WGTOW?

    (Duh….no.) thoughts?

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  4. Yoda says:

    Probably “always had a man” from an early age she did.
    Farm Boy got used to doing without he did.

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  5. Yoda says:

    Once a man turns 30 he does.
    Hormones recede they do.
    Hopefully clearer picture of women he does see.
    Probably she needs him more than he needs her it would be

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  6. FNU MNU LNU says:

    Yeah, you should have done a hit and run.

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  7. Farm Boy says:

    My widowed Mom did not like living alone. She couldn’t understand how I did it

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  8. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Horseman,
    I would think that for every man staying in, there has to be a woman doing as much. Who knows what they are doing but, they are entertaining themselves somehow.

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  9. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    While they are young, women have men lined up. They can replace their boyfriend in less than a week. I think this ability starts to dwindle after thirty and she has to be more active in looking.

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  10. BuenaVista says:

    After a point, general exhaustion with entitled, undisciplined, willful behavior by post modern behavior sets in. Women still think the feminine imperative (‘what I want when I want it …from you Buster’s) is socially advanced and desirable.

    I just cancelled a weekend with an old friend who was flying out from DC for four days. In the lead up she told me about flying to Miami on a weeknight — to pick up her dog. Then she asked me what I thought about living half the year in Bulgaria, where she has a house. Then she told me the guy she lived with last year was drug and alcohol addicted.

    Way too much drama and random behavior, tho she remains hella hot and a good cook. And rich.

    The F.I. renders many women insane, and it’s wearisome.

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  11. I would agree men seem more ok w being alone than women. It could even be biological. Men often hunted solo I would imagine. Or men can be together for hours w little talking. Women? No way they could sit for hours together wo talking.

    I think it’s important for women to realize they need interaction more, and to perhaps have some trusted female friends/relatives to interact w (trusted being key, otherwise women can make each other stew and complain in a very destructive way.) and try to spare their guy the blow by blow emoting… I know I start doing it wo thinking, assuming a guy would be interested in all that when they sometimes really aren’t.

    We are different creatures, for sure.

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  12. Ame says:

    i very much like being married, but i need my alone time as i’m definitely an introvert. if my husband passes before i do, which is statistically likely, i don’t see doing marriage a third time. then again, i do have my daughters and their lives, and while they might not always live physically close to me, we’ll always be emotionally close.

    i don’t understand women like the one BV mentioned … who had a man last year … wants another one this year. that’s beyond me. but i think i’m probably not too mainstream there.

    i’m thankful my husband is not obsessive/possessive – that would drive me crazy (in a bad way 😉 ).

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  13. Yoda says:

    i’m thankful my husband is not possessive

    Likes your boobs he does

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  14. Yoda says:

    Women? No way they could sit for hours together wo talking.

    Wonder if Moehau Man Sheilas like this they are I do

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  15. Ame says:

    lol! you win, Yoda! he IS obsessive/possessive about *those*!!! 😉

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  16. SFC Ton says:

    A woman with an empty vagina is pointless, biological imperative unfulfilled so yes they need men more then men need women

    Oddly, (beta) men want women more than women want (beta) men

    But want and need ain’t the same thing at all

    https://tonsplace.wordpress.com/2016/08/17/why-are-single-men-happier-then-single-women/

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  17. Spawny Get says:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/mikeysmith/status/781744317253689344
    Not as comprehensive as Roger’s Profanisaurus, but has its merits

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  18. Yoda says:

    Wonder where Moe is I do.

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  19. Yoda says:

    While the whole exercise it meant to allow students to re-identify as any one of dozens of obscure genders (like agender, cisgender, etc), some students are having a bit of fun with the challenge. One student, Grant Strobl, seemed to have sparked a mini movement by officially changing his preferred pronoun to “His Majesty.”

    http://heatst.com/culture-wars/heres-what-happens-when-a-college-lets-students-pick-their-preferred-gender-pronouns/

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  20. BuenaVista says:

    Scenes from the apocalypse, part 2,354:

    I’m taking linens and housewares and yard tools and stuff to a recent acquaintance this morning.

    He is 37 with two young daughters. Radio operator when he was in the Rangers. Blue pill guy.

    Before his wife entered inpatient treatment for meth addiction, she:

    Openly dated other men. He stayed to protect the girls. When he refused to be run off she attacked him with a kitchen knife. He defended himself with his dominant hand and became 60% disabled in that hand. He lost his electricians job because you need two hands to be an electrician.

    Meanwhile the court ordered him out of the home and put them both on no contact orders.

    When by accident they ran into each other at the Dollar store she called the police and the sheriff. They arrested him and sent her home, loving caring mother that she is.

    She didn’t pay rent and was evicted. The landlord emptied the entire contents of the house into a dumpster. He lost all of his clothiers, tools, records, everything. He was arrested again for vagrancy, I.e., sleeping iin his truck. When I met him a month ago he didn’t have enough money for a jacket and was wearing a T-shirt on a 50 degree night. (I gave him an extra Carhartt and a stocking cap.). He lived in a tent at a county park.

    The children were placed in foster care. He’s now making $12/hour driving a farm delivery truck. He found a trailor to rent, but CPS won’t let him have his children back until he furnishes it to their liking. So he has one hour supervised visits.

    There’s more but you get my drift.

    Now, per the OP, why in hell would this man have any interest in dating/pursuing women? And why would he believe he has parenting rights under the law?

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  21. BuenaVista says:

    Ame, middle aged women panic about 30 minutes after they terminate a relationship. They’re all like RPGs 55 year old EPLer.

    I haven’t met a woman in 20 years who was dumped by her husband. They pull the ripcord before checking to see if a parachute is attached.

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  22. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    To begin to answer the question posed by, “Where di all the men go?”. we need to start with “which men?” If women can only see top tiered men, by late middle age, these guys are tired of spinning plates. In trying to revert to a tournament social oder from assortive mating, women have found another way to cut their own throats. At the ime in their lives, when they should have locked down a relationship, they are thinking that it’s raining men like it was in their twenties. For the eighty percent of men who are overlooked, little will change. They are well accustomed to living in the desert. For the women, cats.

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  23. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    I don’t know what Moe is up to. On a road trip with his percussion band?

    Farm Boy,
    I ahve given more thought to the first date disaster. It wasn’t that she was into you. If she weren’t, then she had the wrong motives.

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  24. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Another thought. It is amusing to see hypergamy bite back. However, it is little consolation to men on the wrong side of the 80/20 rule.

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  25. thedeti says:

    “I wonder how common this attitude is with women. Do they need men? Do they expect men to have the same need? Apparently the woman in Captain Capitalism’s story did. Are they totally at loss for words when they learn that guys don’t operate like that? How many of them do learn?”

    Dalrock has written extensively on this. Women divorce for unhaaaaaappiness. Then they find out that the single life at 40 isn’t the hot fun alpha carousel ride it was back when they were 20. The hot hunky millionaire handyman isn’t around. The men she can pull usually turn out to be either

    1 divorced pudgy guys with a little bit of game and hefty child support payments (sorta attractive but distracted with other obligations and unwilling/unable to commit)

    2 divorced pudgy sad sacks with no game at all (not attractive)

    3 smooth players looking for easy lays (attractive but commitment is out of the question)

    4 good looking younger men looking for easy lays. Cubs looking for cougars to dump fucks in. (very attractive, fun toys to play with, but commitment is out of the question)

    5 very nice and kind men, most divorced, a few never married, looking for wives (not attractive but commitment is on the table for the asking. Most of these men are very religious or very sexually/relationally inexperienced. They have no game and have no idea how to handle a woman in a bed or a relationship.)

    So they find themselves where they were before. They want a combination of 3 and 5, but those two groups of men are mutually exclusive when they get to 40 and beyond. She will have fun with 3 and 4 sometimes but leave “unfulfilled”. She settles — again — for a 1 or a 5.

    Anyway, to get to the point: These women need men. All women need men. Women need men to lead them, to prevent them from making decisions based on emotion, to devise a vision, to look at the big picture, to make that big picture happen, and to manage life together.

    A 40 or 50 year old woman alone either veers from one emotional extreme to the other or becomes so coldly rational and logical that she loses her childlike wonder at newness, she gets jaded and cynical.

    She either goes crazy or turns into a woman with a male brain. She either lives her life by emotions, or turns them off and loses the ability to find joy or peace.

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  26. Spawny Get says:

    “His Majesty.”?

    Hmm ‘My Glorious Patriarch’ sounds good to me. Especially coming from a femeroid. I might enjoy that.

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  27. thedeti says:

    Women need emotional connections. They overestimate how available those emotional connections are from other people when unmarried.

    Women also like sex with attractive men.

    I continue to be amazed at the number of women in my locale who are divorced at least once and are starving for a relationship with a man. They don’t need to be married. Many have done the marriage thing. They just want to be able to date and/or have sex with a reasonably attractive man every once in a while. They want to be touched and caressed; then they want vigorous sex. They want to be desired, they want to have fun, they want to be out of control in a safe place (think Dalrock’s metaphor of the out of control roller coaster, built, provided and made safe by men).

    They didn’t get that with their husbands for whatever reason.

    They want hope — hope that they can still find all these things even at 40 or 50.

    The smooth player gives them a glimmer of that hope, until he moves on.

    The very nice man paying her all sorts of attention gives her that hope, until she loses interest.

    The divorced pudgy guy with some game gives her that attention, until he cancels a date because of his daughter’s piano recital that he forgot about, or can’t afford that weekend she wanted.

    They still hold out hope.

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  28. thedeti says:

    Last thoughts.

    All of this, all of the manosphere, all of what’s discussed here can be summed up as:

    1) Women asked for, and powerful men gave them, the right to end relationships and marriages for no reason.

    2) Women are not willing to be happy and content with what they have. Women are unwilling to admit they need men much, much more than men need women.

    3) Most men are not attractive enough to get and keep the interest of a woman for three decades or so.

    4) Most men are not masculine enough to refuse to put up with women’s bullshit, nor are they masculine enough to shape relationships to their liking.

    5) Men who are attractive enough to attract women and are masculine enough to shape their lives and refuse women’s bullshit, often forget the principles in 1 and 2.

    6) Men who are attractive enough to attract women and masculine enough to shape their lives and refuse women’s bullshit, often find they can continue attracting women despite offering only minimal indicia of commitment.

    7) Men who fit into 3 and 4 and who simply refuse to put up with women’s bullshit and/or shape their lives to their liking, often find they attract women (but still aren’t attractive enough to keep women’s interests.)

    8) Men who meet category 7 especially need to be mindful of the principles in 1 and 2.

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  29. Spawny Get says:

    Shameful, shameful stuff

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  30. Spawny Get says:

    New research. How was BREXIT won? White English people of the middle and working classes wanted out
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3814906/How-middle-classes-won-Brexit-vote-social-group-except-rich.html

    Middle and working-class voters ignored the Project Fear tactics of Mr Cameron and George Osborne as they suffered a ‘deeper malaise’ and had little to lose in a country they felt was ‘far less fair than it used to be’.
    The report by the Centre for Social Justice and the Legatum Institute says Brexit is an opportunity to regain control of Britain’s borders and make society stronger.
    It is also serves as a rebuke to Remain campaigners who have described the referendum as a mere ‘opinion poll’ which Parliament should be free to ignore. The CSJ’s Philippa Stroud and James O’Shaughnessy of the Institute say the vote was ‘a heartfelt cry from millions who feel Westminster no longer knows, or even cares, how it feels to walk in their shoes’.

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  31. Yoda says:

    “Oh, let me think. Look, I like a lot of the world leaders,” Clinton said, bursting into laughter initially when asked about her favorite world leader during a gaggle with reporters aboard her campaign plane in Chicago. “One of my favorites is Angela Merkel because I think she’s been an extraordinary, strong leader during difficult times in Europe, which has obvious implications for the rest of the world and, most particularly, our country.”

    http://www.politico.eu/article/in-swipe-at-trump-clinton-names-merkel-as-her-favorite-world-leader/

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  32. Yoda says:

    Peter has now trained his sights on one of those decentralized experiments – namely, University of California’s attempt to re-try an accusation of sexual harassment against former Berkeley Law Dean Sujit Choudhry for which Choudhry has already been charged, investigated, and punished. This time I have to agree with Peter as well as with Brian Leiter and Slate: This is a Dr. Frankenstein’s experiment gone horribly awry. As Choudhry’s complaint in federal court alleges, there is an egregious assault on procedural due process going on at U.C. Berkeley. After the jump, I will offer my reasons for believing that President Janet Napolitano, the President of the University of California, is abetting mob justice in urging a do-over

    http://prawfsblawg.blogs.com/prawfsblawg/2016/09/is-berkeley-ignoring-due-process-to-appease-an-angry-mob-the-sexual-harassment-case-against-sujit-ch.html

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  33. Yoda says:

    Brown University will have to re-adjudicate a years-old campus sexual assault accusation after a judge determined the school suspended him after improperly investigating the accusations against him.

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/judge-rules-in-favor-of-brown-university-student-suspended-for-sexual-assault/article/2603197

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  34. Yoda says:

    Hillary’s great coup in the debate was *avoiding* a focus on issues. What does that tell you?

    http://www.kausfiles.com/2016/09/28/hillarys-great-coup-in-the-debate-was-avoiding/

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  35. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    Ache Schow its good journalist. She has enough to keep herself busy with covering college men getting railroaded to make a career but, she is good enough to shine in any capacity.

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  36. Spawny Get says:

    You guys need to kick the UN out.

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  37. Yoda says:

    Clown update

    Mayor James Kern praised the police and said suspicious clowns “will not be tolerated in this township.”

    One Facebook user, however, stood up for clown rights, asking: “Is it illegal to dress like a clown?”

    In a (presumably) separate incident earlier this week, a New Jersey child said he was chased by a clown with a sword.

    http://heatst.com/life/clownpocalypse-hearse-riding-clown-terrorizes-new-jersey/

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  38. Moe says:

    Wonder where Moe is I do

    Yes well, I’m hobbled without that bloke Cill. He’s out with a bunch of young jokers teaching them how to sail. I know how far out he is by stretching me inner senses about as far as his long-range wi-fi.

    Anyway, no self-respecting Moehau Man will go within cooey of a boat. Everyone knows that. When he returns to dry land, your pills will thrill once more to the dulcet tones of a Moehau Man on the blog.

    “Dream of that”, Mrs Moehau Man (my sardonic old mum) chipped in just then.

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  39. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Today, I will try leaving the Tarn bait early.

    Girrls like food and even AJpanese girls like Italian food. There is only one problem. When you feed them, they aren’t hungry anymore.

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  40. Spawny Get says:

    Ever wondered what a Welsh accented singer sounds like? Wonder no more…

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  41. Ame says:

    “Ame, middle aged women panic about 30 minutes after they terminate a relationship. They’re all like RPGs 55 year old EPLer.

    I haven’t met a woman in 20 years who was dumped by her husband. They pull the ripcord before checking to see if a parachute is attached.”

    – – – – –

    sigh. it’s what i’ve seen in my family and sadly so many others around me, too. and i hate it.

    ——-

    btw – glad you’re back.

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  42. BuenaVista says:

    Deti, I know a lot of guys who were very successful — and had a negative net worth in middle age owing to divorce. They’re careful, they’re skeptical, and they don’t fit one of your categories. They also rent, and do not purchase, planes and boats. They all recovered, sort of, and are in demand again. The women don’t get it.

    Harvey Weinstein had a negative net worth, by any by the GAAP book accounting.

    Otherwise, affirmed.

    An interesting exercise: ask a divorced woman who terminated her family, husband or wife. She’ll proudly say she did. Then say, “That’s great! But I couldn’t incur that risk.”. The good thing about renting is the downside is measurable.

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  43. thedeti says:

    BV:

    When you say you know a lot of guys who were successful, what do you mean by “successful”?

    If you mean they were divorced, didn’t have a lot of money, were paying child support out the ass, but could spit some Game and date/fuck women? Yeah, I know some of those guys too. They are mostly careful and kind of skeptical. They have sworn off marriage and anything “serious”.

    Women are kind of a hobby for them. They do the things Red Pill would tell them to do — live their lives and invite women who interest them to go along.

    The general reports on the women are as follows: They put out early. They are fun. They have good surface personalities that mask insane amounts of baggage. The sex is good. The women are experienced and know how to handle a dick, and they are down to fuck early and often. They don’t put up with a lot of bullshit, but then, the men don’t either.

    They are together for a while; then they break up. It’s something like high school, only they both have more money, and logistics aren’t a problem because they both have their own places. And the “relationships” aren’t a problem, because…. they both have their own places.

    And about the women’s baggage — it’s huge. They’re all divorced. Most have kids. They are wizened and jaded by experience. Some have been through terrible relationships, some claim abuse, some have personality disorders and mental problems, they all have defense mechanisms.

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  44. SFC Ton says:

    You are a good man BV

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  45. thedeti says:

    BV:

    When you say “the women don’t get it”, what do you mean? Do you mean the women don’t understand why those men were careful, skeptical and didn’t want to remarry? Do you mean the women don’t understand how those men recovered? OR the women don’t understand why those men are in demand?

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  46. Yoda says:

    I’m taking linens and housewares and yard tools and stuff to a recent acquaintance this morning.

    Good to help him out it is

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  47. SFC Ton says:

    Lol I have been on the definition successful quest myself

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  48. BuenaVista says:

    Deti, I mean successful/rich. Divorced they’re technically bankrupt, because what to do is hold your illiquid assets instead of property, securities, antiques, art etc.

    A week after my ex pulled the plug I was sleeping on an air mattress eating off Walmart dishes in a studio apartment. My children really understood that, you bet.

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  49. BuenaVista says:

    Deti, #2, I meant that the women don’t understand that a man is smart enough to understand what it means to blow up a family, and, gee, he might not like to go through it again.

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  50. thedeti says:

    BV:

    Hmm. In my experience, the women “don’t get” that a man doesn’t want to remarry. Like in FarmBoy’s OP. Women are genuinely flummoxed that a divorced man who got out of a bad marriage doesn’t want to remarry. To most women, a man who has never been married is either mentally ill or gay. To most women, a divorced man should want not only to date frequently, but also to lock down a woman and go all in with her, and commit right away.

    Any man who doesn’t want this is mentally ill, maladjusted, or a closeted self hating gay man.

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  51. Yoda says:

    To most women, a man who has never been married is either mentally ill or gay.

    Wonder if really true this is I do

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  52. Yoda says:

    To most women, a divorced man should want not only to date frequently, but also to lock down a woman and go all in with her, and commit right away.

    Odd that think this they would.
    Perhaps “their 20’s” never ends in their mind it does

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  53. Ame says:

    if i were insanely wealthy … since i was a single mom i’ve wanted to create housing for single parents … where their kids can live with them and be cared for. kids need their parents – both their parents … and dads and moms both need their kids. that the system has done that, again, to this man incenses me. thank you, BV, for caring enough to care for this man in such tangible and real ways … and for the many other things you probably do that no one else knows about.

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  54. Ame says:

    “Hmm. In my experience, the women “don’t get” that a man doesn’t want to remarry. Like in FarmBoy’s OP. Women are genuinely flummoxed that a divorced man who got out of a bad marriage doesn’t want to remarry. To most women, a man who has never been married is either mentally ill or gay. To most women, a divorced man should want not only to date frequently, but also to lock down a woman and go all in with her, and commit right away.

    Any man who doesn’t want this is mentally ill, maladjusted, or a closeted self hating gay man.”

    – – – – –

    yep … i can see this … b/c women *never* think it was their fault! and *every* man out there will truly be able to see how innocent she is and what a great catch she is and want her!

    and, yep … the latter is probably true, too … one who is or has been married is more attractive than one who never was/never has been.

    sadly women can be very catty and mean and vicious, and unless someone steps up and shuts them up, they snowball onto each other. 😦

    i did something stupid once … not bad or wrong, just stupid. and two women who i thought were my friends were emailing back and forth about it … and accidentally copied me in the email. i’m sure it was accidental b/c what they were writing was unbelievable. i simply forwarded it on and said, “I don’t think y’all intended me to see this.” hahaha … they were incensed! i walked away from it all. neither ever apologized. i ran into one after i was engaged to my husband, and she said to me, “Is he a godly man?” i just looked at her like she was nuts and said, “He loves Jesus,” and moved on. i’m sure i was the topic of more creative writing. honestly … i am not ‘all-that.’ there are much better topics out there and ways to spend one’s time.

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  55. Yoda says:

    i just looked at her like she was nuts and said, “He loves Jesus,” and moved on.

    i just looked at her like she was nuts and said, “He loves my boobs,” and moved on.

    FIFY I did

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  56. Ame says:

    roflol! Yoda … you are terrible!!!

    Tarn needs to come back!

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  57. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    I can confirm that women are very suspicious of men over forty who have not married. Bob O’Hara, one one of his podcasts mentioned it too. He was more emphatic.

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  58. BuenaVista says:

    Deti, yes, they don’t get it. Because their culture tells them their divorce was brave and noble. So they don’t understand why they’re distrusted for ruining a family.

    An angry woman recently told me that she understood why I lived alone. (I was mad at her, not permitted.) Well, I explained, I could call4 or 5 women and be engaged by suppertime. And they were better at sex and didn’t serve food and coffee for a living.

    Oddly, this did not mollify her or conclude the argument.

    Women just have no idea what it is like to have the government destroy their family, take their children and make their homes off limits.

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  59. BuenaVista says:

    Women should be alarmed by any man over 40 who has not married. As should men, wrt women over 40, never married.

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  60. SFC Ton says:

    It would be easier to list what women do understand. Much shorter list, save a huge amount of time

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  61. SFC Ton says:

    Women want men who were already marrried……
    Pre-selection
    He’s already mostly broken so easy to break to a harness
    She doesn’t have to compete against his high expectations of women
    She knows he’s use to almost no sex/ no sex so she won’t have to put out much

    Lots of advantages

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  62. Yoda says:

    would be easier to list what women do understand. Much shorter list, save a huge amount of time

    Write out this list you should

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  63. BuenaVista says:

    1. Joint checking accounts. (Funded by him.)

    2. Importance of late model SUV (for her).

    3. Dick on demand.

    4. Life insurance w appropriate beneficiary.

    5. Money and free time to travel internationally.

    6. Better looking than girlfriends’husbands.

    7. Does housework.

    8. Can fireman carry the sexy wife, then drill her.

    9. Published in major newspaper or journal.

    10. Drives six figure car that cost more than girlfriends’ husband s’ six figure car.

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  64. SFC Ton says:

    Lol nice BV.

    Master Yoda, to write out such a list would require more regard for women at large then I currently posses.

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  65. Spawny Get says:

    I think it was Rich Zubaty or Sue Hindmarsh who said what women want, best…’more’

    It’s a good listen. Sue was a great, happy surprise find.

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  66. Spawny Get says:

    Have this on standby for the next remoaner / illary supporter you come across on telly.

    Much more soothing than Shrilllary

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  67. Yoda says:

    A new post there would be

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  68. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Hillary is good at animal sounds. Proof.

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  69. Ame says:

    “Women should be alarmed by any man over 40 who has not married. As should men, wrt women over 40, never married.”

    i respectfully disagree.

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  70. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Ame,
    This is the first I have sen you disagree to anyhting. What do you know that we don’t? For me, an unmarried woman over forthy would arouse curiousity.

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  71. Ame says:

    “What do you know that we don’t? For me, an unmarried woman over forthy would arouse curiousity.”

    – – –

    good question, Fuzzie.

    the original comment said, “should be alarmed:” “Women should be alarmed by any man over 40 who has not married. As should men, wrt women over 40, never married.” i think there’s a difference btw ‘alarmed’ and curiosity. i actually do think the reasons for the two are different, though. i also think that just the age factor, isolated, should not be cause for alarm.
    – – –

    “Women should be alarmed by any man over 40 who has not married.”

    alarmed? no. curious? yes. with the exception of the woman who is looking for another man to use … b/c the single man over 40 is not broken into the married man role … and won’t easily do her bidding … and won’t easily turn over access to his bank accounts … and won’t easily want to share raising her kids with their dad.

    when i was a single mom i did not consider a man who didn’t have children b/c i knew i didn’t ever want anymore children and would not change my mind. i did not want to be the reason he didn’t have children in his life IF he ever decided he wanted them.

    but … a man over 40 who has never been married has either by choice or default has done MGTOW. if men warn other men against marriage (for good reasons), then how can they also turn around and say a man who didn’t marry is cause for ‘alarm?’ are some single men who have never been married over 40 weird? sure. so are some married men over 40, some divorced men over 40 … there are some of all men over 40 who are weird. but then again … as they say one person’s trash is another person’s treasure … one person’s different-weird is another person’s same-weird 🙂

    – – – – –

    “As should men, wrt women over 40, never married.”

    actually … there should probably be more cause for alarm here b/c the chance that this is not influenced by feminism is high.

    however, there are a very few women out there who slipped through. i know a few.

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  72. FNU MNU LNU says:

    Talk about an incomplete investigation. Even using the “new policy”, the texts allegedly sent by the “victim” after the incident are exculpatory and indicate that she was in fact a willing participant.

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  73. FNU MNU LNU says:

    @Farm Boy:

    I thought it over a bit more. And I still think you should have fucked her. Because, why not!

    lol

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  74. FNU MNU LNU says:

    The level of corruption in the UN is insane. No wonder it’s aligning itself with the left.

    Socialism + Fascism + Corruption = UN

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  75. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    FNU,
    Feminists don’t like to hear “exculpatory evidence” in conjunction with rape cases.

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  76. FNU MNU LNU says:

    Of course not. Why should the truth be relevant?

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  77. Farm Boy says:

    Why should the truth be relevant?

    Quite right. The only thing that matters is the narrative

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  78. FNU MNU LNU says:

    And have been told as much by political appointees. It’s disgusting.

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