What is up with Herbivores?

From time to time, the question of “herbivores” comes up in our discussion about gender issues. It can’t be avoided because it is so big in Japan. About two thirds of young men self identify as herbivore. What these men are claiming is that they will live minimalist lifestyles and forswear women and marriage. I have to point out, that in Japan, all extramarital sex is a big no-no. They take it seriously. What is driving these men is the perception of what marriage entails. First, he has to have a salaried job that he works incredible hours at, while the wife is expected to retire to the home once married. I should point out that there are few of these jobs available since the downturn of the nineties. That would be the primary reason for young men not getting married.  Once married, while working these crazy hours, the wife has total financial control and he gets an allowance that will cover lunch. Another reason for not getting married, working a hand to mouth job will give a young man more disposible income. Finally, Japanese marriages are famous for being sexless and the bickering never stops. Who wants that?

As I said, about two thirds of young Japanese men have turned to this form of social rebellion. For them, it is not feminism but more traditional marriage. Wives don’t work and the men have to work crazy hours to cover the family expenses. He goes to an early grave and she gets to spend the insurance money.

You may want to know my sources. At first, it was youtuber Life After Women. Then, I found youtuber Shi-nu Asami. He is a very odd duck, a transgender in the midst, a Californian living on his own in Japan following divorce.

What promted this post was a challenge by Yoda in the wake of a comment by MGTOWhorseman about Japan’s Prime Minister attempting to address the economic malaise. He didn’t have a word to say about finding ways to positively motivate young men. Without that, he has no answers worth discussing. It is hard to beleive that responsible people in government have no idea wher production comes from and what motivates it.

Posted in economy, Gynocentrism
140 comments on “What is up with Herbivores?
  1. Yoda says:

    Post these youtubes the bear might

    Liked by 1 person

  2. Spawny Get says:

    I believe they’re planning to get the birth rate up. They’re having trouble selling the guys sex, what hope for selling pack mule provider for wife’n’kids?

    Liked by 1 person

  3. Ame says:

    “Once married, while working these crazy hours, the wife has total financial control and he gets an allowance that will cover lunch. … Finally, Japanese marriages are famous for being sexless and the bickering never stops. Who wants that?”

    who wants that? not even i.

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  4. Yoda says:

    Note that about China this is

    Liked by 1 person

  5. Spawny Get says:

    37:00 looks at herbivores and women looking for a meal ticket.
    The bit before is about suicide forests


  6. Yoda says:

    Stacey Dooley not the sharpest spork in the cutlery drawer she is

    Liked by 2 people

  7. Yoda says:

    Rely on cultural pressure the Japaneses did.
    Breaking down it is.
    Perhaps incentives the solution it would be

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  8. Yoda says:

    Wonder how women vote in Japan I do.
    What issues important they are?

    Liked by 1 person

  9. FNU MNU LNU says:

    How can that be? The Japanese have some awesome porn!


  10. Yoda says:

    How can that be?

    How can what be you do mean?


  11. FNU MNU LNU says:

    Extramarital sex being a big no no.

    Damn I wish the iOS app would allow cut n paste.


  12. Yoda says:

    An issue in Italy also it is

    Fertility Day was aimed at helping Italians “get busy” to boost the country’s record-low birthrate, but the nationwide drive culminating Thursday delivered little more than controversy.

    The first signs of fertility furor surrounded an ad campaign launched ahead of events exploring reproductive health that sparked allegations of sexism and racism.



  13. Yoda says:

    It is hard to beleive that responsible people in government have no idea wher production comes from and what motivates it.

    Require the truth this would.
    Hear it people would desire not

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  14. Ame says:

    “It is hard to beleive that responsible people in government have no idea wher production comes from and what motivates it.

    Require the truth this would.
    Hear it people would desire not”

    – – – – –

    require responsible people in government it would.

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  15. Yoda says:

    About two thirds of young men self identify as herbivore.

    Ludicrously large this number would be.
    Panicked the country is not?

    Liked by 1 person

  16. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    The second from Life After Women.


  17. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I did go looking for Shi-nu Asami’s videos and it looks as if he took them down. There was one that really brought it home. He walks around his neighborhood and two thirds of the homes are un occupied because no one is getting married.


  18. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    An outstanding post from Captain Capitalism that runs parallel to this post.


  19. Spawny Get says:

    Curiously, this is how the war for free speech is going to be fought


    Google has really outdone themselves these past few weeks. As if their new terms of service update that would see several YouTubers lose monetization for their videos wasn’t enough, just two days ago, YouTube launched “YouTube Heroes“, a program that encourages users to mass report and flag videos for deletion. But it gets worse; Google just launched a new AI (Artificial Intelligence) program known as “Jigsaw Conversation”. The purpose of this AI is to find, delete and block comments and posts deemed as offensive. These includes comments that are “sexist, racist, transphobic, anti-immigration, Islamophobic….etc”.

    The AI works by detecting keywords and terms related to offensiveness. Typing words like “Nigger, Faggot, Tranny, Kike…” etc, will get you flagged and labeled a harasser. YouTube videos, search results, emails and basically everything you do online including those words will get you in trouble. Blog posts that contain these words will not show up on Google search results (This article you’re reading right now will not appear on Google search, because I technically used those words). In short, Google just declared a war on Trolls. The Verge reports that the machine has been trained on over 17 million comments and has perfected navigation of the Internet. Needless to say that this machine is the real deal. Lots of Feminists and SJWs have begun praising the program as a step forward in the fight against “Online harassment”, but more on that later……..

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  20. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Censorship without human oversight? This could be a problem. It woun’t be able to deal with the method that Sargon of Akkad made famous in which he tweeted feminists and toldd them that he would NOT rape them. It got them spitting mad.

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  21. Spawny Get says:

    This is just the first step in shutting down the counter narrative to the bought out MSM

    Liked by 1 person

  22. Spawny Get says:

    The temporary background is in celebration of the fact that Labour Party is committing suicide today. In just over an hour they will announce that Corbyn has been re-elected as leader.

    Liked by 1 person

  23. Spawny Get says:

    On Trump election day, it’ll be an appropriate image for the celebration

    Liked by 1 person

  24. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I saw this earlier but didn’t notice that all the victims were women. It is rare that someone goes crazy and spree murders only women. Witnesses described the shooter as Hispanic, so it may not be another terrorist.


  25. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I always liked this for the Remainiacs. The subtley may have been lost on them.


  26. Spawny Get says:

    suitable only for the buffs

    We will witness the grotesue spectacle of the Labour leadership, yes the labour leadership going around in private taxis handing out redundancy notices to its own MP’s

    H/t Kinnochio and Deggsy Hatton


  27. Spawny Get says:

    The election results are in from Honest Joe – Results that you can trust


    Corbyn : Oily Smiff
    Twelvety trillion : -1


  28. Spawny Get says:

    Riccardo Giovannelli • 12 minutes ago
    Blair Labour imported hundreds of thousands of immigrants into the UK to “rub the noses of the Right in diversity”.

    Corbyn Labour imported hundreds of thousands of Marxists into Blair Labour to rub the noses of the Blairites in communism.



  29. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    I think that Labour died the same way the Democrats did here, They both turned their backs on their core constituency. Curiously, they both have pandered to feminism. I do hope that feminism becomes an orphan cause.

    Liked by 1 person

  30. Spawny Get says:

    The £3 Tramp has won it…let the Glorious Wave of Defenestrations commence

    Liked by 1 person

  31. Yoda says:

    The president of Northwestern University told students on Monday that anyone who opposes “trigger warnings” or who ridicules the pain of those “microaggressed” is an “idiot” and a “lunatic.”



  32. Spawny Get says:

    62% : 38% is too close to deliver a full mandate? It’s the Remoaners all over again, but worse. He’s your leader…rejoice!

    Liked by 1 person

  33. Spawny Get says:

    “idiot” and a “lunatic.”

    I am triggered, he needs to quit


  34. Spawny Get says:

    Rick • 2 minutes ago
    Who won the labour leadership election? UKIP.

    Liked by 1 person

  35. Yoda says:

    Like the Union Jack background I do

    Liked by 3 people

  36. Spawny Get says:

    One for you, Yoda. Regarding the Labour re-election of Jeremey Corbyn

    *** Return of the Jezzi — “may the farce be with you” ***

    Liked by 2 people

  37. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I have to wonder about any University President that attempts to treat with these people. It is like they want early retirement the same way the Mizzou President got his.

    I am sorry that I could not find much about Japan. Good hard information is difficult to come by. It is as if they don’t not want anyone outside of Japan to know.

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  38. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I don’t know if it is that there are that many more video cameras out there or if womena re behaving that much worse, it seems that videos like this are popping up more frequently. Here is another woman having a tantrum.


  39. FNU MNU LNU says:

    I guess only the opinions of people who make more that $1million and are leftists, are smart.

    Like him…


  40. FNU MNU LNU says:

    A good example of raising a legitimate point, but doing it in a completely wrong manner. Yeah, it doesn’t make sense that an item is shown as for sale, when it hasn’t been for 6 years. But she obviously has too much free time, and nothing else to do.

    Liked by 1 person

  41. Spawny Get says:

    That objective ABBC documentary that I mentioned.

    My recollections are little more emotional in tone, but this is a good programme (1 hour total)

    Liked by 1 person

  42. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    Another Labour Shadow Cabinet grand screw up in choosing who serve in what capacity.
    Notice she is from Rotherham?

    Liked by 1 person

  43. FNU MNU LNU says:

    Vader looks better!


  44. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    What happened November 22, 1963 in Dallas will never be forgoten by those who were alive and the whole event is still mired in unresovable controversey.


  45. Spawny Get says:

    Jakub KrupaVerified account
    Red Box: William Hill is taking bets on when Labour will next win a general election, and 2031 or later is current favourite at 7/4.


  46. Yoda says:

    Another Labour Shadow Cabinet grand screw up

    Recall the shadow cabinet member who cast a large shadow I do.
    What her name it was?

    Liked by 1 person

  47. Spawny Get says:

    Yoda, Abbopotamus or FiveBellies?

    Liked by 2 people

  48. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Was it this womderful example of professional competence?

    Spawny Get,
    I am a bear and I am afraid of her. Seriously, who carries three last ditch weapons in everyday life?

    Liked by 1 person

  49. mgtowhorseman says:


    Cappy nails it. Remember he is a Masters level Cornell trained economist.

    Liked by 1 person

  50. mgtowhorseman says:

    Bear. Apologies. Didn’t see you already posted this.

    Liked by 1 person

  51. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    That is all right. If it is anything, it is an endorsement of my link. That was a superb post from him. We doh’t see those as often as we would like.


  52. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    I don’t think that I will be in the market for a “slightly used” iPhone7 anytime soon. OOPS!

    Liked by 1 person

  53. Yoda says:

    “George was Bill’s communications director and senior advisor. He’s still an acolyte, and yet what he describes sounds like hell. Hell is wherever Hillary is. In the words of a witness contained in a memo to the White House chief of staff, if staffers didn’t conform to Hillary’s every wish, ‘there would be hell to pay’.”


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  54. Yoda says:

    Good read this is

    But who exactly are these unpopular elites—and what exactly have they done that has enraged middle-class voters in Western democracies?



  55. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I have heard that Hillary was hell on wheels as First Lady. I have no desire to find out how that would work out as President.


  56. Spawny Get says:

    Thinking about voting green?
    I mean…how bad could it be…
    I can’t do it justice with a quote, go have a gander

    Liked by 1 person

  57. Yoda says:

    Old he is,
    living with Hill hard it is

    Liked by 2 people

  58. Spawny Get says:

    Corbyn’s Most Glorious Victory Parade

    Liked by 2 people

  59. FNU MNU LNU says:

    A former friend of mine was with the USSS, and was assigned to Hillary’s detail. She said it was the worst assignment, and that she was not pleasant to the agents protecting her.

    Liked by 2 people

  60. FNU MNU LNU says:

    She very do-able, but apparently a lousy leader and CEO


    Would still bang her though…

    Liked by 1 person

  61. Yoda says:

    Trump threatened to bring a woman that Bill Clinton had an extramarital affair with when he debates Hillary Clinton Monday.

    “If dopey Mark Cuban of failed Benefactor fame wants to sit in the front row, perhaps I will put Jennifer Flowers [sic] right alongside of him!” Trump initially tweeted.


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  62. Yoda says:

    Classic from Captain Capitalism this is

    Now for whatever reason it may be, dance tends to attract more women than men and over the years, I’ve of course befriended several female students. They vary in ages anywhere from 24 to 60, but the one common trait they have is they are typically (though not always) single. And while not always, most of them took dance class half incented to perhaps find a guy.

    But what is becoming a more frequent phenomenon is a question these girls ask;

    “Where are all the guys?”

    I never paid much attention to this, as it has always been the case that men just eschew dance classes, but it wasn’t until an older dance student of mine perhaps refined the question a bit and made it more pointed. It wasn’t so much “Where are all the guys,” as much as it was;

    “I just get the feeling there aren’t any men anymore. Not just in dance class, but where are all the men from all the various social activities? They make up half the population, but I can’t find any single guys to date. They can’t all be married, even my female friends are running into this mysterious disappearance of men. Do they like stop trying after a while and just stay home?”

    And that’s when I realized what she was asking.

    “Do you mean, do men give up and don’t bother trying to find women any more?” I clarified.

    She said, “Yes. So do they?”

    “Yes” I answered.

    She was somewhat surprised at my response. She said, “so they just give up? They don’t go out anymore? Don’t they want to find somebody? Anybody?!”

    “Yeah, more or less.”

    “That’s crazy! How do they ever expect to find anybody?”

    I replied, “Well…they don’t.”

    Regardless, the point was her reaction surprised me in return to see this was that shocking of a revelation to her. I always thought it was kind of common knowledge, men do indeed give up after a while, but apparently it’s not.


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  63. FNU MNU LNU says:

    We all want someone. But men are sick and tired of the bull shit games, having our heads messed with, and our hearts played with like we are a stuffed animal.

    We may not know exactly what women want from us at any given time, and we are more likely than not going to misread anything that women are signaling to us.

    But we are trying to do our best, and we really do love you.

    So cut us a fucking break, or we will just end up not trying anymore!

    Liked by 2 people

  64. Ame says:

    Yoda – that’s a very powerful piece.

    Liked by 3 people

  65. Yoda says:

    Last week, a ruling in the Supreme Court of the State of Arizona determined that any act that involves “intentionally or knowingly” touching a child under fifteen’s “private parts” would be deemed child molestation – and one of those very acts could be diaper changing. What?!

    Essentially, it has to do with semantics. One of the problems in the ruling – which came after a man convicted of molestation appealed the court to interpret that the “touching” part of the ruling require sexual intent. Unfortunately, the court refused and upheld the original language.

    That would mean even a doctor or a parent changing a baby’s diaper would be breaking a law, even though they’re just doing their jobs, according to the report. Yes, that sounds crazy, but the majority ruled that the laws should be applied literally, and “therefore require no mental state beyond a person’s intentionally or knowingly touching a child’s ‘private parts.’”


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  66. Yoda says:

    That small band of Remoaners are making life even harder for the rest of us, reducing the status of anyone who still has a few lingering concerns to that of a poor loser. I want to be a good loser, and so I refrain from sharing bad economic news. I don’t want to talk the economy down: it’s brilliant, and it will continue to be brilliant. I don’t want to doubt that just saying that will make it so.


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  67. FNU MNU LNU says:

    I think she’s a great choice. After all, don’t they hire computer hackers to develop anti-virus software? Who better to opine on domestic violence, than an abuser?!?!?

    Liked by 1 person

  68. Yoda says:

    I have heard that Hillary was hell on wheels

    Not true yet this is.
    Though soon it will be.
    Coming soon the wheelchair is

    Liked by 2 people

  69. Yoda says:

    Gennifer Flowers, who revealed a sexual relationship with Bill Clinton in the 1990s, will reportedly accept Donald Trump’s invitation to attend the first presidential debate between Trump and Hillary Clinton. Flowers’s assistant confirmed the decision


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  70. SFC Ton says:

    Regarding herbivores in Japan; clearly their economic and social conditions are the major reasons but I have to wonder how much the low t-levels of Japanese men effects the herbivore rates?

    Liked by 1 person

  71. SFC Ton says:

    Hookers for sex
    Maids will keep your house clean
    Dog for companionship that never talks back, never nags and is always happy to see you

    No men don’t need women. Everything the could possibly provide can be hired out

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  72. Yoda says:

    You’ve no doubt heard the news: the Clinton campaign invited Mark Cuban, a vicious Trump-hater, to attend Monday evening’s debate and sit in the front row. I think Austin Bay interprets Clinton’s motivation correctly:

    ABC News called Cuban a dedicated Trump-troller and he’s been touting his front row ticket. Cuban hasn’t said he intends to disrupt Trump but the touts are meant to suggest he might. Team Hillary has calculated Cuban serves a propaganda purpose even if he behaves and remains silent. Giving Cuban a ticket and having him sit in a seat tv cameras can’t miss gives media commentators ready-made anti-Trump story lines. For example, at one time Cuban supported Trump, now he doesn’t. Talk that one up, Anderson Cooper. Cuban thinks Trump is a weak candidate, etc. Now repeat Cuban’s assessment of Trump 30 times, CBS News. Yup, Team Hillary’s Cuban Gambit — how clever.

    Donald Trump responded by threatening to invite Gennifer Flowers, Bill Clinton’s long-time mistress and a famous target of Hillary’s misogyny, to the debate, and seat her next to Cuban

    It is now being reported that Flowers has accepted Trump’s invitation. This can only add even more buzz to what was already expected to be the most-watched presidential debate in history.

    No doubt many observers are tut-tutting over the unseemliness of it all. There goes Trump again, reducing what should be a serious event to a circus. That is one way to look at it. But most pundits don’t have any experience in business. It seems to me that for anyone who understands how the business world works, what Trump is doing here, and has done many times before, is familiar.

    My own business for many years was litigation. I was always willing to develop and present a case on its merits, but it wasn’t unusual for an opponent to break the rules or otherwise seek unfair advantage. When that happened, the response was automatic: find a way to–let me coin a phrase here–punch back twice as hard. After being whacked a time or two, most opponents would find it prudent to play fair. The same is true in many industries, probably most–certainly in real estate development and entertainment, where Trump has spent his career. Trump’s instinct to punch back, I think, is neither scandalous nor, as many supporters claim, “genius,” but rather the natural response of an experienced businessman.


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  73. SFC Ton says:

    Where are the guys? Not at dance class. Lest wise the straight ones

    Liked by 1 person

  74. Ame says:

    straight guys don’t dance? or they don’t take dance lessons 😉


  75. RichardP says:

    @fuzzie: “Witnesses described the shooter as Hispanic, so it may not be another terrorist.”


    Liked by 2 people

  76. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    That 2008 post from Capatain Capitalism is the most hard hitting he has written. What he left out is that mortality starts in as men reach fifty. This makes the demographics all the more difficult for the women. But, from what I have experienced, demographics don’t sem to affect women’s attituides all that much. While this bends reality out of shape, it seems to be true.


  77. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    About the debate. Will Hillary show up? Will she bail out early? Even if health weren’t an issue, she is not as good as Donald at thinking on her feet.

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  78. Padawan says:

    “Come Gather Ye” (by Padawan, blog doggerel 2014 – ?)

    Come gather ye ball bags while ye may
    Mad fem is still a flying
    But the mad daft bint that rules today
    Tomorrow will be dying

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  79. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    That link was a good find. While I haven’t said anything, it is good that your square went from blue to green but, if Padawan can have an avatar, then why can’t you?


  80. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    More from the Daily Mail on Labour’s Shadow Minister for domestic violence.
    tl;dr It just gets worse.

    Liked by 1 person

  81. FNU MNU LNU says:

    But the Rotherham MP – who faced calls to resign last night – told a national newspaper the violent bust-up came after she had been ‘provoked for years’ by Mr Hoyland.


    Let a guy try saying that he was ‘provoked for years’ and see how that goes over.

    She’s a fucking hypocrite

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  82. SFC Ton says:

    Lol knew she was a hypocrite as soon as I knew she was a she


  83. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    The part that also bothers me is that she is from Rotherham andd I heard the Paks are up to their old tricks again.A lot of important stuff goes out the window when feminists are elected.


  84. FNU MNU LNU says:

    Ah, ok?

    Sorry, people from NYC don’t understand what Paks means, and have never heard of Rotherham. Our view of the world is as follows:

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  85. FNU MNU LNU says:

    Which one is inviting Monica Lewinsky?

    Or Flowers have her own blue dress? lol

    Liked by 3 people

  86. Yoda says:

    Of all the sacred cows allowed to roam unimpeded in our culture, few are as revered as literacy. Its benefits have been so incontestable that in the five millennia since the advent of the written word numerous poets and writers have extolled its virtues. Few paused to consider its costs. . . . One pernicious effect of literacy has gone largely unnoticed: writing subliminally fosters a patriarchal outlook. Writing of any kind, but especially its alphabetic form, diminishes feminine values and with them, women’s power in the culture. […]

    Literacy has promoted the subjugation of women by men throughout all but the very recent history of the West. Misogyny and patriarchy rise and fall with the fortunes of the alphabetic written word


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  87. Padawan says:

    “numerous poets and writers have extolled the virtues of the written word” (by Padawan, blog doggerel 2014 – ?)

    To say the bard has all the say
    Is nowt but fembot crap
    The bard has surely had his day
    And this is proof of that.

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  88. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    “Paks” would be an abbreviation of Pakistanis. Rotherham refers to the scandal of 2013. Gangs of of Pakistanis were responible for the estimated rape of over 1400 local girls over several years and the local police sat on their hands, knowing it was happening.

    I haven’t read anything like that since the seventies.


  89. FNU MNU LNU says:

    Nice fingernail polish color, does Yoda have.

    Liked by 1 person

  90. FNU MNU LNU says:

    I’m surprised they didn’t just hand out ASBOs to all of them, and then claim the problem had been resolved.


  91. Yoda says:

    Clown update

    Police in Middlesboro, Kentucky have arrested a “lurking clown” that they say was crouching in the woods near an apartment complex in a full mask and costume.

    The police department had received multiple complaints about the clown from several areas within the city, and were finally able locate and capture the masked menace Friday night.



  92. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Alll they have on that clown is that he was “lurking in the woods”? They could run me in on that!

    Farm Boy,
    At least Trigglypuff 2.0 is more coherant than her nameske. I think colleges have to find a way to expel these people. They are antisocial and disruptive. They can’t be there to learn anything.

    I looked up ASBO. AntiSocial Behavior Order. I am going to presume that it is a declaration with no legal weight.

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  93. Yoda says:

    Wonder if Moehau Mans herbivore they are I do


  94. SFC Ton says:

    It’s not lurking in the woods. It’s creating a public menace/ panic by riding on the scary clown wave

    Ie another version of attention whoring

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  95. RichardP says:

    Re. Yoda’s weaselzippers link. The following link is given there and helps to make better sense of the idea.


    Shlain makes a fairly defensible claim: pictures of things are holistic and concrete, and the realm of the concrete (thought-wise) tends to be female; the meaning of words in a sentence unfolds in a sequence rather than all at once, and the total meaning is not usually clear until the end of the sentence is reached. This is an abstract activity (thought-wise) and the realm of abstract thinking tends to be male.

    As the communication of ideas went from graphic based (concrete, which women can process well) to writte-word based (abstract, which women cannot process well according to Shlain), women became more and more excluded from communicating with men. As a result, they became more and more excluded from the power structure of their community.

    That women do better with concrete than abstract is a general concept that I think can be defended with real-life examples (several women in several different threads around here not that long ago stated that they did better when comments were more concrete and less abstract). It is the conclusions Shlain draws from this generalization that are debatable.

    Re. this heading at the link I gave: “How the Invention of the Alphabet Usurped Female Power in Society and Sparked the Rise of Patriarchy in Human Culture”

    Personal opinion: I think a foundational truth is this: you can’t own what you can’t defend. Power is based on strength more than on anything else. I don’t think there has ever been a time in history when women were physically stronger than men. So I don’t think there has ever been a time in history when women had the power Shlain discusses that could be taken away from them through the use of the written word. I think men’s greater physical strength has been there from the beginning. Because of this, so has Patriarchy been there from the beginning. To say that something “gave rise” to the Patriarchy suggest that female dominance ruled until then. Again, you can’t own what you can’t defend. Women can’t defend their physical dominance over men, so how could they have been dominanate over men in any relevant way in the ancient past?

    To state that the rise of the written word sped up the exclusion of women from men’s conversations might have some merit. But if we accept that men and women’s brains are wired differently – then, even before the invention of the alphabet, and using only graphic images, the conversations of men were likely very different from the conversations of women.

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  96. Yoda says:

    A new post there is


  97. Farm Boy says:

    It is expensive to be a bear

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  98. FNU MNU LNU says:

    I Think that fuzzy would rather climb into this instead

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  99. SFC Ton says:

    Can’t own what you defend… you have no rights to anything you can’t maintain on your own strength

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  100. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I like!

    I like, A LOT!

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