For What Purpose?


From this recent post,

Ton:  Women are generally hostile toward men
Women worry if a man can enjoy himself without her, she will lose her power ( a powerful based solely on sex, manipulation, lies and deception)
Time a man spends on anything only he benefits from dimish the return on her investment in the draft horse… I mean man. Women hate that like bankers hate to give up on usury

Sunshine: I don’t think it is necessarily hostility. But it is definitely a mix of not wanting to lose power over one’s mate and also wanting to get as much labor as possible out of him. It sounds so terrible to say it, but there it is. Honestly when my husband is out puttering around in his workshop, I feel absolutely compelled to go out there and start in on him about “Shouldn’t you be doing blah blah blah?”

Which is usually when he turns on his electric sander and taps his ear as if to say, “Sorry! Can’t hear you!”

Anyway, I usually keep my nagging side quiet, but it’s always there under the surface, wanting to get out. As I think it is with most women. It’s just how we are, I guess.

This brings up something that I have been wondering about for a long time.  Parents want the best for their children, or so they say. Probably this is where much of the urge for women to drive their men comes from.  That is, to do more such that the kids have a better future.  For some it comes down to materialistic things like houses, for others it is a drive to academics, others might be about fancy vacations, or maybe just general helicopter parenting (or any combo of these).

In reality, one questions how many of these are truly beneficial to a child’s future once the basic minimum is met.  Often it is more about the parent’s prestige and fun.  What children really need for their future is to grow up in an environment where they feel safe and feel that there is no undue risks in trying to grow intellectually and emotionally.  For the most part, this takes time and effort of the parents, and not necessarily money.  It can be fun, but it really does not show off in terms of prestige.  Probably that is the kicker, as people want tangible stuff to point to that shows their (and their kid’s) success.

Back to the conversation between Ton and Sunshine, a wife nagging her husband to do stuff that he really is not that interested in doing, and furthermore doesn’t really advance the future prospects of the children, is just that, nagging.  An example might be pressuring him to maintain a manicured lawn in suburbia for the sake of keeping up with the Joneses.  I am sure that you can come up with your own cases.  Please feel free to do so in the comments

 

P.S.  My Mom did not nag my Dad very much.  Later in life, she admitted that she deliberately worked on not doing so.  I am glad that she was successful

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70 comments on “For What Purpose?
  1. SFC Ton says:

    Women want the best for their kids?

    Bullfuckingshit to the highest order

    Women want a lot of things, none of it is really best for kids.

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  2. Yoda says:

    Women want the best for their kids?

    Supposed to be true this is.

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  3. OKRickety says:

    I think many women really do want the best for their kids. But, often, they don’t know what is best, although they are often certain that they do. In other words, they often have the desire but not the wisdom needed to accomplish it.

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  4. Yoda says:

    Wisdom of being a good Mom used to be handed down through the generations it was

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  5. Cill says:

    Women don’t want the best for their sons. There’s health and the law and homeless etc but take education as one example. The best education is the one girls are getting, but we don’t hear mothers complaining on behalf of their sons. On the contrary, they agitate for yet more advantages for girls in the form of special programs and scholarships and affirmative action for girls in the STEM fields.

    White mothers in particular couldn’t give a fig about a fair deal for their sons (http://www.expressandstar.com/news/local-news/2016/04/05/why-are-white-british-boys-falling-behind-at-school/). White women created the culture that makes their sons Public Enemy Number One. Their failure to do anything about it – anything at all – shows that they couldn’t give a brass razoo.

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  6. Farm Boy says:

    How do women reconcile loving the advantages for their daughters while ignoring the meat-grinder that their son’s are headed into?

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  7. SFC Ton says:

    Bullshit OKR
    Women voters keep child murder legal in the usa

    There is no fucking way to rectify that fact with women lacking the wisdom to know what’s best for kids

    Women are barbaric unless collared, leashed and properly subdued by a more dominant man and culture

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  8. Ame says:

    SFC Ton says:
    23 September, 2016 at 1:09 am
    “Women want the best for their kids?
    Bullfuckingshit to the highest order
    Women want a lot of things, none of it is really best for kids.”

    – – – – –

    i definitely know some moms like this. it’s all about “Me! Me! Me! Me! Me!”

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    OKRickety says:
    23 September, 2016 at 2:05 am
    “I think many women really do want the best for their kids. But, often, they don’t know what is best, although they are often certain that they do. In other words, they often have the desire but not the wisdom needed to accomplish it.”

    – – – – –

    most of the moms i know are more like this. the desire/wisdom conflict would be reflective of how emotionally involved in our kids we are, making it extremely difficult to step back and view situations objectively. i know that is where i struggle – being so emotionally invested/involved that it’s super hard to be objective. some areas are easier than others, but it is overall true.

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    Farm Boy says:
    23 September, 2016 at 2:45 am
    “How do women reconcile loving the advantages for their daughters while ignoring the meat-grinder that their son’s are headed into?”

    – – – – –

    i only have my step son to go on personally, and i didn’t meet him till he was 10 … and then i’ve really taken the step mom role, not the mom or dad role. but i can tell you … most of the influence his mother had was not positive. at one point during this past year he asked his dad why he didn’t get full custody after the divorce – a harsh lesson in legally proving a mother an “unfit parent” ensued.

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  9. Ame says:

    SFC Ton says:
    23 September, 2016 at 3:42 am
    “Women voters keep child murder legal in the usa”

    i actually have a theory on this … i think that it would take more than simply the feminist vote to keep abortion legal. i think that it is the christian vote (not their verbal stance, but their private vote) that is keeping it legal b/c they don’t want their reputation tarnished with an unwanted pregnancy … unwanted pregnancy being:
    – teenage daughter
    – teenage girlfriend of their teenage son
    – woman he’s having an affair with
    – wife who’s having an affair w/another man

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  10. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I wish that we had Liz here to speak for mothers with sons. I believe that she did a good job. As for my mother, this has brought up issues long since buried. In short, women who hate men and boys should not raise sons. This may apply to most women today as hating men and boys is standard.

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  11. Ame says:

    Fuzzie –
    “In short, women who hate men and boys should not raise sons.”

    – – – – –

    women who hate men and boys should not have any children at all.

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  12. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I can’t begin to imagine how a boy could be raised by a mother who hates him for being male could grow up and not be crippled.

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  13. Ame says:

    “Bags Of Fresh Air Go on Sale in Chinese Mall and People are Actually Buying Them”

    http://nextshark.com/bags-fresh-air-go-sale-chinese-mall-people-actually-buying/

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  14. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Ame, it must be a very smoggy day there. 🙂

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  15. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Ton,
    I am more than disappointed that it looks like Rolling Stone is going to get away with it in ciil court. I have no sympathy for that woman dean but, the fraternity took smoe phyical damage and severe damage to their reputtiohn because of that article. I can see Sabina Rubin Eardley and Jackie Coakley getting off because they don’t have a pot to piss in between the two of them but, they should be held to account too.
    Thsi should have gonj on the last thread but, I wanted it to be read.

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  16. @ fuzzie and Ame, agreed. Not all women should be moms. Tragically, for the precious children trapped in their careless care. 😦 with often lifelong results.

    I don’t have sons so I can’t really comment on that but if I did I would hope I would champion, love, and nurture them just the same as I do my girls. Not that I don’t have my parenting blind spots, nor have I not made mistakes.

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  17. Also there are several here who did not have mothers who deserved them who I cannot imagine this world without. True survivors. Be proud of yourselves, despite having many reasons not to become fine people you have anyway. That’s no small feat!

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  18. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Bloom,
    That link was interesting. While I had to translate it from its feminist bias, it seems that Millenials can’t break out of the hookup ulture rut. and they have discovered that all venues are bad. It will be interesting to see how they reslove this.
    Thanks for understanding about bad moms. There’s no fixing that. And, it is not just humans.

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  19. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    That video was so much of a downer. Here is something to compensate. It includes helpful humans.

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  20. SFC Ton says:

    I own a bar, it is not unusual to have a packed house of nearly all single sex groups who never interact with the opposite sex.

    I don’t know how much internet dating plays into millennials not engaging in ltr’s but I doubt it’s even in the top 5 reasons. Economically how many men that age have the money to spend on a bitch who probably won’t put out? People that age have few positive examples of marriages, ltrs or even the opposite sex. We live in a culture wholly hostile toward men, children and family formation. Unleashed hypergammy has created insanely unrealistic expectations in women. Divorce lawyer has left all but the dumbest saps wary of marriage, various court rulings make men wary of living with women. Typical female behavior makes men wary of living with women. Every dude under 35 knows sex disappears after marriage…..

    The reasons why are legion, but Internet dating is an easy target compared to saying it’s the law, culture and women.

    As for men only chasing the best looking women… I don’t see that playing out but it makes senes. Not simply because of the stronger sexual pull put if the risk is insanely high, and it is, the reward has to be insanely high to offset the level of risk

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  21. SFC Ton says:

    If women who dislike/ hate men shouldn’t raise boys, then sons of beta men should be removed from their mothers at birth.

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  22. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Ton,
    You have groups of men and women in your bar and they are not talking to each other? That only confirms my theory that all venues are dead. Here they are, in sight of each other, and they are not talking.

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  23. I have noticed millenials tend to socialize in groups rather than pair up, too. Perhaps they have internalized the “35 is the new 25” message and are putting it off, or simply don’t intend to marry bc it’s “old fashioned?”

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  24. David Foster says:

    RPG…”I have noticed millenials tend to socialize in groups rather than pair up, too”

    Probably has something to do with growing up in day care, a group setting.

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  25. David Foster says:

    RPG…”I have noticed millenials tend to socialize in groups rather than pair up, too.”

    Probably has to do with being raised in day care, a group setting.

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  26. Spawny Get says:

    David, you got spam filtered for some reason that I don’t see…

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  27. SFC Ton says:

    Yeah Fuzzie I don’t see much co mingling.
    Girls won’t approach and guys have had enough? Best I can reckon it

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  28. Spawny Get says:

    Consequences??? WTF? I have a pussy pass.

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  29. Spawny Get says:

    I love the fact that she’s giving her statement of guilt because she just can’t STFU

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  30. Spawny Get says:

    Then she posted her own video…because? Vagina

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  31. Spawny Get says:

    This is what happens when people (women and young children) believe that there can be no consequences for anything that they do. I hope that when her mouth gets her into shit, that she doesn’t expect anyone to step in to protect her from her education on consequences.

    If she has a hubby, which I doubt, that’ll be some world class pussy-whipped mangina. Or an MMA of immense ability and no brain.

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  32. Spawny Get says:

    Katie Hopkins being somewhat a troll of the luvvies and their onanistic thought tendencies…obviously suffering from a surfeit of emotional heart string plucking by lefties.

    Their words are failing, their images are losing power. I don’t think that we’re far from some nuclear level butt-hurt for virtue signalers.

    I think that BREXIT’s level of upsetting the bien-pensant is but a foretaste of POTUS Trump.

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  33. Spawny Get says:

    Speaking of BREXIT

    Andrew ‘Brillo’ Neil Verified account
    ‏@afneil
    You Gov poll: Over 50% of those who backed Labour in the last general election, then voted to Leave the EU no longer support Labour.

    Laba party lost Scotland at the last General Election. UKIP came second to them in a lot of Laba heartlands up north in that GE. A lot of the North voted for BREXIT…So, Brillo’s saying that they’re gefuckt.

    He’s the only one worth listening to on the ABBC – Anti-British Broadcasting Company

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/09/23/poll-working-class-leave-voters-abandoning-labour-party/

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  34. Spawny Get says:

    Bernie’s take on the 5ft entitled bitch

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  35. That video of H from yesterday is disturbing. Up 50 percent? Who has ever gotten 90% of a vote? She looks rabid…

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  36. Spawny Get says:

    “The Democrats will force her out if she can’t make the debate”…POPCORN!

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  37. Or maybe it’s the look of someone who sees millions in greased skids $$$ they planned on slipping away?

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  38. Yoda says:

    Tonight, my wife and I ran into some old friends from our neighborhood. They’re middle aged, like us, with two kids–a boy and a girl, age 9 and 10. We have two boys, 4 and 10. The husband has a lucrative job. They moved our of our upper middle class neighborhood two years ago into a $500,000 home.

    The husband travels overseas three weeks out of a month for his job. Some weeks he returns home Saturday night and flies out again on Monday morning. When I asked the wife how they were handling the schedule, she sighed and replied, “I don’t know how much longer we can hang on. But if he were to find a job in his industry where he didn’t have to travel, he’d have to take a pretty big pay cut.”

    Some part of me wanted to scream, “Take the pay cut! You look miserable just talking about it, and you could move right back into our neighborhood and still be better off than most people!”

    But it’s not that simple, is it? New money doesn’t stay liquid for long. It always finds a way to fund new obligations–the bigger home with the upscale patio and fire pit, the luxury SUV, the vacations, the dreams of early retirement.

    We all want to feel like we’re advancing in life, both in status and wealth. Stepping back feels like failure.

    My friends are trapped. I see it a lot as people hit middle age.

    http://ace.mu.nu/archives/365865.php

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  39. Spawny Get says:

    Going to be some mangina blood loss over this

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  40. Spawny Get says:

    Katie Hopkins + Brillo FTW

    You go grill

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  41. FNU MNU LNU says:

    They never interact with each other? GPS coordinates please? lol

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  42. FNU MNU LNU says:

    I’ve seen the opposite. Where women almost go on a rage wanting all sorts of accommodations for their sons in school. Not realizing that often it does more damage than good.

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  43. FNU MNU LNU says:

    Maybe they are actually smarter than we are! Why rush towards something with a less than 50% success rate.

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  44. FNU MNU LNU says:

    She must be wonderful to live with.

    Her poor kids have no chance…

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  45. SFC Ton says:

    Let me try that again, I’ll put you in the same booth with a couple of the regulars

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  46. FNU MNU LNU says:

    But she did expect someone to protect her! She had every right to flip off someone, but he had no right to follow her, and she wanted the cop to arrest him for harassment.

    Just because you “can” do something, doesn’t mean that you should do it.

    But she won’t learn. It will be everyone else’s fault…

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  47. OKRickety says:

    The gif of the woman shooting a machine gun reminded me of the Shake Weight exercise device that was somewhat popular a few years ago. Look at how much shake their is in her upper arm.

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  48. FNU MNU LNU says:

    Bad form. Nice figure! 😁

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  49. FNU MNU LNU says:

    I knew someone who had a place in Pinehurst. I wonder… lol

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  50. SFC Ton says:

    LOL she insults all Trump voters to a White cop…. who is likely to be a Trump supporter….. clearly an intelligent woman.

    Also, Rednecks don’t frequently drive Audi’s. Fucking

    And we have no rights to anything we cannot enforce ourselves. You have no right to life vs a hurricane headed toward you

    See I have the right to free speech because I am mean enough to self enforce said right

    If you need a cop to ensure your “rights”, you have no rights

    Also in my world, flipping people off earns you an ass whopping

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  51. Spawny Get says:

    POETS
    Piss Off Early Tomorrow’s Saturday
    A fine a Friday tradition

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  52. FNU MNU LNU says:

    Where I’m from, flipping people off is a prelude to playing “the mother dozens”, followed by buying each other a few beers!

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  53. Spawny Get says:

    So what happens when nice folk work out that stopping will get you pulled out of your car and perhaps beaten to death?

    Would not convict. This is fear for your life

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  54. Cill says:

    And we have no rights to anything we cannot enforce ourselves

    I’ve mentioned a few examples of this in my own life way back on this blog somewhere. The bad old man who runs crime in NZ and a big chunk of Asia can’t find me in my new home. I’m going to surprise him by presenting him with his favorite seafood delicacy and if he doesn’t present me with a bottle of my favorite scotch there will be no more. I let him think he made the rules but actually I made them.

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  55. Yoda says:

    In a sensible world, Hillary’s apparent belief that foreigners have a “right” to emigrate to the United States would disqualify her from the presidency. In the first place, she is simply wrong as a legal matter. In United States ex rel. Knauff v. Shaughnessy, 338 U.S. 537 (1950), the U.S. Supreme Court wrote:

    At the outset we wish to point out that an alien who seeks admission to this country may not do so under any claim of right. Admission of aliens to the United States is a privilege granted by the sovereign United States Government. Such privilege is granted to an alien only upon such terms as the United States shall prescribe.

    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2016/09/hillary-the-third-world-has-a-right-to-move-to-the-united-states.php

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  56. Yoda says:

    This week’s high school cheerleading coach arrested for allegedly getting undressed with a 14-year-old male and engaging in a festival of touching is Shelley Jo Duncan.

    The 48-year-old Tishomingo High School cheerleading coach also described her plan to provide oral sex to the 14-year-old teen while simultaneously consuming a cough drop, police said.

    http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/19/cops-high-school-cheerleading-coach-traumatized-male-teen-with-naked-romp-offer-of-exotic-oral-sex/

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  57. FNU MNU LNU says:

    That will only last until the Supremes have been stacked with progressives, and another case is brought before them.

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  58. FNU MNU LNU says:

    Seems Oklahoma is the place to be to bang hot female teachers….

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  59. Yoda says:

    A new post there is

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  60. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I hope that Alex Jones is right and that if Hillary flakes on the debate, it is curtains for her.

    I now see why the FBI stopped trainiing with Thompsons about the time they started promoting women to Agents.

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