Daughters Shit Testing Dads

We all know that women shit test.  Apparently there is a built-in predisposition to do so.  Seeming they can’t help it.  Or rather, they can help it, but would rather not try to suppress it.  But, that supposes both self-knowledge and a desire to do what it right; probably too much to ask in this day and age. Furthermore, this is much too much to ask of modern children.

Men in general today fail shit-tests.  From wives, girl-friends and daughters, it is almost universal. Daughters is what is of interest here.  It is somewhat rare today for a dad to stand up to his daughter.  Often he caves to her every whim.  This is a large factor in creating entitlement princesses.

One wonders if the implications are similar with daughters as with grown-up women.  Are daughters seeking fathers that will stand up to them, and consequently show that they are capable of protecting them?  You decide.

As an example, I have a set of relatives, father and daughter.  He caves to her every whim.  Furthermore, it costs lots of money to cave to her every whim.  She has a fiance that makes good money, but will not stand up to her either.  She shit tests, but nobody stands up to her.  Consequently, she apparently finds security in being an SJW.  They have the answers for her.  A girl needs to find protection from somewhere.  This all will not end well.


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61 comments on “Daughters Shit Testing Dads
  1. Yoda says:

    Also known as “fitness testing” shit testing is.
    Perhaps more appropriate description in this case it would be

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  2. SFC Ton says:

    My daughter was a shit testing machine
    I basically had game her into proper behavior. Strong frame, 0fg, outcome independence

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  3. Yoda says:

    Ton go into more detail he should

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  4. FNU MNU LNU says:

    And they shit test their brothers. My girl still does it constantly to her older and younger brothers.

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  5. Yoda says:

    Perhaps educate brothers about this we should

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  6. SFC Ton says:

    lol my daughter always doated on her little brother

    My sister was horrific toward my brother. And he was older. I was to old to see it 1st hand

    But…. women are women and all have the same software. The better ones to have around are not lacking in these various traits. Instead the do their best not to act on them.

    The most dangerous ones are the ones who say they could never….. because then the impulse will catch them unaware

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  7. Cill says:

    Buggar! I want to deface the Water Closet with some choice graffiti but the damn thing is closed to comments

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  8. Yoda says:

    I basically had game her into proper behavior. Strong frame, 0fg, outcome independence

    Any other approach there is?

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  9. Cill says:

    Bugger this “closed to comments” crap

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  10. Cill says:

    pisses me off

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  11. Cill says:

    WTF are water closets for?

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  12. Spawny Get says:

    Your test comment went in! What’s the issue?

    I shifted the date afterwards, but I got a notification of your testes comment.

    Unrelated, for hardcore WankPuffin enthusiasts only

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  13. Spawny Get says:

    “WTF are water closets for?”

    Mrs Mohau might be able to illuminate

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  14. Cill says:

    Sanitation business in the WC. FB required for a deposit.

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  15. Cill says:

    Nothing major. Nothing that can’t be pushed out in a couple of grunts.

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  16. Cill says:

    BTW – my testes were inserted via Add Comment in Edit Post.

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  17. Cill says:

    The seat of the shouse remains up in expectation of a visit by FB

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  18. Yoda says:

    Took a dump in the WC I did

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  19. Moehau Man says:

    Mrs Mohau might be able to illuminate

    Yes well, Mrs Moehau Man (my decorous old mum) declines to answer, so I’ll give it a go instead.

    I think Water Closet is a the foreign name for a dunny, which is a log on the side of a cliff on which a man can perch his buttocks and mark his territory far below. The height lends dignity and an air of royalty to the occasion.

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  20. FNU MNU LNU says:

    Mine does to, to both of her brothers. But she tests the shit out of them.

    I remember the very first time she did to her older (5+ years) brother.

    She was 4 and we had just come home from doing I don’t remember what. The older brother had put some potato chips in a bowl and went to watch TV. She asked him for some chips and he told her she could get some herself. Her response was…

    “But Robbie, I’m just a little girl…”

    I’ve never seen that boy move so fast, as he did when he went to get another bowl of chips just for her.

    That was the first time I saw her evil smile.

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  21. Cill says:

    Another skidmark in the WC for Yoda I have left.

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  22. Ame says:

    girls are born that way … out of the womb!

    well, okay … give them a couple years, perhaps … but, we’re just born that way! they need to be taught what they’re doing and trained well to use their *it* factor in the proper time and place.

    example: their dad was not always very safe. and after he left, the law determined when he could see his kids (if left up to me, he could have seen them much, much more, but he chose not to). anyway, since he was an addict, and addicts have cycles – which he clearly did, there were times when he was excellent, and there were times when he was unsafe, and there were times in-between. we never knew exactly where he was at any given moment. so off my two little girls would go to his home (beginning at ages 5 and 7). they knew how to use their ways to manipulate their daddy well, and all three enjoyed it (he did have his limits) … things like getting to pick out their fav candy at the store, or movie, or doll, or restaurant. BUT … when he was in his dark places, they would join forces and gang up on him, and for some reason, they were able to shut him down. neutralize him. i remember one time when they were about 5 and 7 they hid in his room and called me from the phone in there … and they said, “Daddy’s being really bad, Mommy, and we told him he had to stop or we are leaving. So we just want to warn you, you might have to come and get us soon.” i didn’t that time (though there were others i did because he didn’t want them). so i never worried about their safety with him because together they were able to trigger something in him and shut him down.

    however … they did need to be taught that there was a time and place for this behavior and they could very well leave it at the door to their daddy’s home.


    my brother has 3 sisters … he learned early how to turn that around to his advantage. he’s stone-cold alpha. he did not treat me with kid-gloves b/c i was a girl! we beat the crap outa each other!

    my girls learned quickly that their step brother has limits. they can get away with a few things, but that’s it. he shuts them down quick.

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  23. SFC Ton says:

    lol the apple don’t fall from the tree and Ton2.0 would have laid claim to her chips
    Ton Spawn is also a full blown asshole as I am sure Half Ton will be


  24. SFC Ton says:

    No there is not Master Yoda but knowing that about your most beloved really drives home the Red Pill

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  25. molly says:

    Me at Dagobah

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  26. Spawny Get says:

    Hillary sowed the wind, Nigel delivers the whirlwind

    Former UKIP leader Nigel Farage told Breitbart News Daily that Hillary Clinton “represents the status quo” and will bring “the stability of failure” to the United States if she wins the presidential election this November.
    Speaking to Breitbart London’s Editor-in-Chief Raheem Kassam, the outgoing UKIP leader and Member of the European Parliament (MEP) Nigel Farage has stated that Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton, along with the rest of the global political establishment “have led us into a series of wars, they’ve massively increased our levels of debt, and they represent failure”.

    He continued: “When Hillary talks about stability, what she means is the stability of failure. The stability of policies that haven’t worked, and what the West needs is a change.”

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  27. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Molly! Burrito, burrito, burrito.
    I like your avatars.

    Spawny get, I think the best Wankpuffin video thw the one on a racing motorcycle that you dedicated to Molly.

    Nigel Farage is right. The problem is that Hillary had made a lot of contributions in foreign campains that she should have. Projection much? And, yes, it would be slander. He should sue, the Clinton Foundation has lots of money.

    As for shit tests, Ton is correct in saying that if you care, you have lost. Thos e who don’t care must win. The problem is,if you love, you care. Back to the cave to scratch my head.

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  28. SFC Ton says:

    You are supposed to rule over them, take dominion over the earth.
    Like dogs, they are easier to love once you subdue them.

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  29. Ame says:

    Ton – and they’re much more cuddly, too 😉


  30. Ame says:

    Bloom – thinking of you, your daughter, and her dad.

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  31. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I always understood a shit test to be a trap designed beneath the conscious in which, no mattter the answer, the man loses. That is, if he cares.
    I am getting tired.

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  32. SFC Ton says:

    A shit test is testing your frame
    Give her what she wants and you fail, despite her momentary happeniess
    Tell her no and her momentary displeasure will morph into a lot of things

    Just like dealing with kids and dogs

    Stop assuming women are rational adults. Or hold on to transitory and never realized eqalterian fantasies

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  33. SFC Ton says:

    Sort of like a kid pitching a fit because you don’t let them eat candy 3 meals a day


  34. SFC Ton says:

    And now darling, you have your answer


  35. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    If ‘frame” is a synonym for dignity. That is something that everyone has tried to take away from me as long as I can remember. It started with my parents and has never let up. I don’t know why they want it. What are they going to do with someone else’s dignity?

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  36. Ame says:

    Fuzzie – it’s a sorry way to elevate themselves … which speaks more to their cowardice than to who you are as a person or a Man. take it back. don’t let them have it. they don’t deserve it, and they certainly aren’t worthy of it. the best way to stand up to that bs is to not let them have what they want.

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  37. SFC Ton says:

    No idea Fuzzie. Would fight those battles for you but that’s not how the world works

    And yes frame is very much about dignity, placing a value on your dignity, sense of self, status etc and being above the shit test and shit tester

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  38. Yoda says:

    And yes frame is very much about dignity, placing a value on your dignity, sense of self,

    Good description this is

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  39. Caving to the shit tests leads to more and more shit tests. Not good. Shutting down the shit test leads to “oops, sorry my bad…” And peace.

    It’s counter intuitive but it is what it is…

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  40. Ame says:

    ***warning – this is long***

    Fuzzie – if you will, permit me to share how i’ve learned to deal with things concerning my aspie-girl. i *think* there is a correlation in here; if not, then ignore.

    i was not raised to believe i had value. i chose to believe i had value when my oldest was born so i wouldn’t pass down what was passed to me. however, i had not completely learned to live in such a way that i am a person of value because i didn’t totally believe that i was worth fighting for. then i had children, and that Mamma Bear thing? it’s real. then i had aspie-girl … a little girl who did not look any different from anyone else, but she was incapable of behaving like anyone else. her dad worked 60-80 hours a week and traveled, family didn’t exist, so it was me and only me who cared for her 90% of the time – the other 10% being shared with her dad and often protecting her from him.

    aspie-girl’s brain gets tied up in knots. you can look in her eyes and see that it’s not all working in there. when her brain is not functioning properly, you have to find a way to help her brain organize, line up, so she can begin to process again. her behavior often made me look like i did not have control over her and that i did not discipline her. it was not true, but that could not be discerned from just looking at us.

    one example of many … my girls were maybe 6 and 8 and for some crazy reason i decided chuck-e-cheese on a friday night was a good idea (shoot me now cause *my* brain was obviously not functioning!). talk about sensory overload – the place was packed with people, the volume elevated – visual, oral, and physical stimulation on steroids, and she lost it. i had to sit down on the floor with her, with my legs locked over hers, with her arms crossed over her chest while i held them down, while she pitched an all-out fit – kicking, hitting, biting, screaming right there in the middle of nasty chuck-e-cheese. there’s a voice that says a hundred people are watching and someone’s gonna call cps … there’s the voice that says all these people think i’m a terrible mom and she’s a terrible kid … then there’s my other daughter who i had to direct to a safe place where i could watch her while taking care of her sister. with the exception of my oldest, i had to block everything out and focus only on my daughter or she would not be able to come out of it. i had to slow my breathing, slow my heart rate, totally calm my whole being, hold her firmly but lovingly, and speak softly into her ears where only she could hear. this lasted ten, fifteen minutes before she could function again, after which we both focused only on each other, stood up, collected her sister, held my head high like nothing abnormal had happened, and calmly walked out. i had to block out everyone and everything else and create a frame for only my girls and me based on what was best for us and not only ignore everything else but delete it all as totally insignificant and irrelevant.

    most of these incidences took place in private, but there were a good many that took place in public – anywhere and everywhere – church, preschool, school, stores, etc. but because i value my daughter and know that *I* am her advocate and her protector and that no one else will stand for her, and she was a child and could not protect herself, i did it. and i was and am excellent at that. even my husband will tell you that i am a totally different person when protecting my girls.

    what i’ve had to learn to do is transfer that over to myself and truly believe *I* am valuable enough to be fought for in the same way. this requires allowing all previous beliefs … or frames … to be shattered … and then building a new one.

    somewhere in there, in this life, especially when those who should have valued us did not and continue to not, we have to step out of that stupid, evil, lie of a frame and walk away from it while building a new, accurate frame based on the truth that *I* AM valuable and worth fighting for.

    when a man with that kind of frame walks into a room … when Ton walks into a room … his presence says, “I am worth fighting for and with.” if he walked in and said, “I need all of you to get up, follow me, and fight and do _____,” people would just get up and do it because his presence says, *I* am valuable and worth fighting for and with.

    this is HARD. for many of us, this is not natural. and it takes time.

    those people took your dignity and tried to frame you in a demeaning way. don’t let them win. take it back. ditch the lie of a frame they tried to put you in. build yourself a new one. ‘why’ they did it doesn’t matter anymore. you can do it … one step at a time. we all can. it’s a continuous process for me – somedays i get it, others i totally fail – big time fail. but, just gotta pick myself up by my bootstraps and try again.

    it sucks what they’ve done to you. those are some screwed up people. let it be them and not you. keep taking steps to walk away from them and towards a new frame. draw it out on a piece of paper if you’re a visual person – two frames … one that lists the things you’re going to break free from, and one that lists who you will become. picture it … because you can do it.

    (now … i know … i’m a girl, and my opinion is invalid 😉 … so take what works, if anything, and ditch the rest. i am certainly NOT an expert on male frame.)

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  41. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Dalrock mentioned that, for a while, he was an avid fisherman and hunter. It was like he was hardly ever at home. Mrs. Dalrock settled down.

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  42. Yoda says:

    ***warning – this is long***

    Use that much I do.
    And not just about the light saber I mean

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  43. Yoda says:

    Proper use of Kauri Club leads to good frame for Moe it does.

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  44. Farm Boy says:

    The number of lawsuits filed by students accused of campus sexual assault increased dramatically after the Education Department issued new guidance on how schools should tackle the issue.

    Further, the percentage of lawsuits filed by either party involved in an accusation shifted heavily toward the accused, according to a report from Stop Abusive and Violent Environments, an organization trying to reform the way schools handle accusations.


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  45. Farm Boy says:

    Apparently enforcing borders is not an option

    Who could have foreseen that the completely disorderly admission of hundreds of thousands of undocumented migrants into Germany from countries with terrorism problems would turn out to be an issue? Apparently not German Chancellor Angela Merkel, until now.

    On Tuesday, Merkel told the German newspaper Sueddeutsche Zeitung that part of the reason the problem got so out of control was because Europe had ignored it for so long.


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  46. Farm Boy says:

    Students in at least one Rutgers University residence hall are being encouraged to use only language that is “helpful” and “necessary” to avoid committing microaggressions.
    The display, which is part of the school’s “Language Matters” campaign, also includes hand-written definitions of the three types of microaggressions, as well as a flyer listing potentially-offensive words and phrases.


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  47. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    If Bill moves to Benghazi, he should stay very far away from Dirty Gertie in Bizerte.

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  49. Farm Boy says:

    There is a new post.


  50. Yoda says:

    Leafing through the FBI’s 302 of its interview with Hillary Clinton, one might come away with the impression that she is a big fat idiot (to borrow the inelegant locution of Minnesota’s unfunniest former comedian). That impression would be justified based on the text of the interview notes, but it would be mistaken. Rather, Hillary Clinton is a big fat liar.

    Well, okay, we knew that. The seriousness and absurdity of the lies she has retailed have never been quite so apparent. You might say that her lies are the only thing transparent about her. How she is to be hoisted upward to the presidency of the United States is less a feat of political engineering than a triumph of the will.



  51. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    There is a chance that she may be elected. What bothers me is that there is no one ij the US Senate quite like Sam Erwin or Howard Baker any more.

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  52. Tarnished says:


    I was going to ask for an example of a child’s version of a shit test, but you have already provided one. Damn. That is just so frickin manipulative! The use of the “victimhood” status starts early in the feminine brain, apparently.


  53. Tarnished says:


    Your story of your aspie daughter makes me wonder if her actions could be confused with a shit test. I’m unfortunately still unsure of how a man can tell a shit test from a legitimate-but-unusual request from his daughter or SO.

    According to some RP subreddits, a shit test that some women use is clinginess. They try to hang on their SO’s arm like a koala to a tree when walking around in public to prevent any other females from thinking he’s up for grabs…all the while bumping into him, making it difficult to walk, pouting like a child if he tells her to knock it off and just hold his hand normally, etc.

    But I can see an aspie girl doing this…not as a shit test…but as a way of grounding her mind in a loud, busy public area. Heck, I’m not autistic and the constant motion + loud setting + multitude of smells + bright flashing lights + crowds of downtown NYC hurts my brain with sensory overload. Thus, although I am not a cuddly/hand holding type of person 99% of the time, in this one environment I’ll ask Seamus if I can loop my arm through his to retain some sensory stability. He, of course, is in his element there due to his ADD…always something new to look at. I swear, the midtown area was *made* for people with attention deficits, lol.

    But yeah.
    How does a man know the difference between a shit test and a real request from his daughter or SO?

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  54. Ame says:

    Tarn – how does one know the difference? that is a great question.

    with my daughter, her sister and i are probably the only ones who can really tell the difference – b/c she has learned to use it to her benefit; she’s really smart (not just me saying that).

    that time and most like it, esp when she was that age, were real. you could look in her eyes and see that she wasn’t all there. she would tell me later, quite some time after the fact … “Thank you, Mommy. I couldn’t have gotten out of that without you.”

    there are a lot of factors that go into it all, and it’s one of those things that is extremely difficult to explain. that day it was all her brain totally out of whack. i remember her trying to get up at one point, but i knew it wasn’t ‘over’ yet, and her brain wasn’t ready, and i told her so. when it was over she was able to look me in the eyes, and her eyes were clear, and tell me, “I’m okay now, Mommy. I’m okay now. It’s over.”

    it helps now that her brain is more developed and that i’m homeschooling her. being at home she can more easily do the things she needs to do, when she needs to do them, to organize her brain and ‘calm her engine.’ the biggest thing she does is walk … or rather speed walk, around and around our pool out back. she probably walks that thing over a hundred times a day, at least, but the repetitious, physical movement organizes her brain.

    however, there are times when she’s ST’ing me, and i call her on it, and you can see her try not to laugh b/c she knows she’s be caught. and i’m flat-out honest with her … she knows that she must learn to control herself or the consequences in the real world will be very harsh.

    here’s one of the best, very short, explanations i’ve seen yet on sensory processing disorder. add together the asperger’s, the bipolar, the sensory, and when they all come together at the right time, you have the perfect storm, and it is not pretty. we do everything we can to avoid that using many, many techniques and lots of training. it’s a lot of continuous work.

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  55. Stephanie says:

    Tarn, hopefully a man who cares about her – especially a father figure – would care enough to know the difference. I think even some of the red pill writers point out that there are security tests/loyalty tests that the man **does** have to pass in order for her to feel secure and safe with him. I have no idea how they can tell the difference… but guessing that it’s up to that individual couple to understand each other and be able to communicate.


  56. Ame says:

    Stephanie –
    “Tarn, hopefully a man who cares about her – especially a father figure – would care enough to know the difference.”

    you are spot on. it gets a bit complicated with her dad. there was a part of him that truly could *see* and understand her … but then there was the part that caved into his own parents that said her behavior was all a *discipline* issue and therefore my fault. when he was in a good place, he was incredible with her. i miss that part b/c he could push her in ways only a dad can to do things that i am not able to do.

    “I think even some of the red pill writers point out that there are security tests/loyalty tests that the man **does** have to pass in order for her to feel secure and safe with him. I have no idea how they can tell the difference… ”

    my aspie-girl can discern in a nano-second whether an adult can handle her or not – she has always been able to discern that, since she was a baby, and it’s always amazed me. she’s not missed once. she’s always been hyper-sensitive to the emotions, temperament, ability of people around her. it’s uncanny, really.


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