Objects In Motion

We always hear women complaining about being “objectified”.  That is, men just considering them for their body, not for anything more.  Let us look closer at the true situation.

First, let us consider the night club / bar girls; the ones that dress provocatively/revealingly with the corresponding body movements.  Yes, from their perspective and from the fella’s perspective, they are objects in motion.  Can any woman deny that this is how they want to be viewed?  They do it because they like it.  Validation, free drinks, sex, etc.  What is not to like?

Wives often like to be objectified by their husbands.  Some of it is validation, some of it is pleasing the husband.  At least, this is how it should be.

Looking at the other end of the spectrum, there is the classic woman in a business situation.  She wants to be taken seriously.  And business is about business, or at least it should be.  She does not want to be objectified; or she wants to be objectified and does not want to admit it.  Any way that you look at it, there are strong prohibitions about blatantly objectifying women in such contexts.

So what exactly is the crux of the problem?  What is their big complaint?  Much unhappiness stems from the fact that sometimes women want to be objectified lots, and at other times want to be objectified less.  Furthermore, who might be the man doing the objectifying is of critical matter.  What women need are meters on them showing an “objectification mood”, one that varies based on who she is looking at. Since everybody can see the meter, there could be no misjudgments.

As for the past, most women were not allowed to dress as whores and sluts, so that part of the problem did not exist.  Furthermore, many were not allowed to act as whores and sluts, they were trained to be proper ladies.   Men might have objectified, but it was kept under wraps when ladies were around.  For the most part, the issue of does she want me to objectify her or not did not come up; and if it did, it was well defined by the context.

According to women, this is a major issue that society faces.  What should be done about it?

Posted in FarmBoy, Hypergamy, Lies, Why
179 comments on “Objects In Motion
  1. Farm Boy says:

    I am sure that Ton will weigh in on this subject


  2. FNU MNU LNU says:

    They need a built in meter

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  3. Women swear they don’t want to be objectified, but watch how they act when another gal gets more attention than her! Worse, sometimes women seeking the attention the most are the same ones who get all bent out of shape about being “objectified.” Weird, indeed!

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  4. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    this is another heads they win/tails you lose conundrum. I would leave to the women to resolve but, they are doing a terrible job with it. What we seem to e missing in outr culture is the distinction that displays a womena as available and unavailable. An example would be th Polynesiancustom of wearing a flower in her ear.Behind the right ear for single, behind the leaft for taken. Women who are spoken for may be admired. Those that are single have to deal with their suitors.

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  5. SFC Ton says:

    If she is bangable she is getting objectified

    If she isn’t bangable she’s getting ignored

    Women know your an icky beta the second you give a shit about what she wants so once again it’s a shit test and compliance equals failure

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  6. FNU MNU LNU says:

    Too bad there isn’t like a ring or something that they could wear on one of their fingers…

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  7. Tarnished says:

    From Wikipedia:
    Sexual objectification is the act of treating a person as an instrument of sexual pleasure. Objectification more broadly means treating a person as a commodity or an object without regard to their personality or dignity.

    What does objectification entail, in this post’s definition?

    If it is the same as the definition above, I personally hate being objectified, and likewise do not visit such behavior or thoughts unto other men and women. To think of a fellow human being as a toy or product to be used is both disturbing and revolting in my opinion.

    However, if we are talking about simply acknowledging the physical attractiveness of an individual man or woman…well, that’s a horse of a different color. Contrary to Feminist philosophy, it is *absolutely* possible to look at a stunning fe/male of our species, be attracted to them, and perhaps want to have impromptu sex with them while still thinking of them as a person with their own thoughts/emotions.

    Similar to how one views their mate:
    Sexy and desirable, combined with an underlying love of their personality.

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  8. Tarnished says:

    That is incredibly odd, yet common behavior, Bloom. The cognitive dissonance is strong in some women, lol.

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  9. Tarnished says:

    Those that are single have to deal with their suitors.

    I’m a polite way, one would hope.

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  10. Yoda says:

    Speaking of objects in motion.
    Tarn here she is


  11. Yoda says:

    Big objects has she does


  12. Yoda says:

    However, if we are talking about simply acknowledging the physical attractiveness of an individual man or woman…well, that’s a horse of a different color.

    Verde the horse would be?

    Acknowledged the attractiveness of Tarn I did

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  13. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I would hope in a polite way. Dealing with them in any other manner would tend to discourage them.

    “Women know that you are an icky beta the second you give a shit about what she wants. So, once again it’s a shit test and compliance equals failure.”
    No wonder men are getting so frustrated. Women are deselecting men who give a shit.

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  14. Yoda says:

    Sunshine Mary discussed this once she did.
    Think that she kinda liked being objectified by her husband remember I do

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  15. Cill says:

    Views objects in 2-D Yoda does
    3-D too much for him it would be.

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  16. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I have never seen a verde horse
    I hope I never see one
    But I can tell you any how
    I’d rather see than be one.

    Tarn other qualities she does have
    Good commentary among them.

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  17. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I can see why Sunshine would say that. Sometimes, dishwashers need to be replaced.


  18. Yoda says:

    Views objects in 2-D Yoda does
    3-D too much for him it would be.

    Wrong franchise referring to you are.
    In Satr Trek The Wrath of Khan that was

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  19. Tarnished says:

    Acknowledged the attractiveness of Tarn I did

    I think you only acknowledged teh boobage, Yoda. I don’t know if you would find me attractive or not. 😛

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  20. Yoda says:

    As soon as a woman objectifies no longer she is,
    wish strongly that objectified like the old days she will

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  21. Cill says:

    Wonder where Mrs Yoda is these days I do
    Deep in her cups Mrs Y would be?

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  22. Tarnished says:

    Tarn other qualities she does have
    Good commentary among them.


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  23. Yoda says:

    I think you only acknowledged teh boobage, Yoda. I don’t know if you would find me attractive or not.😛

    Boob Lives Matter (BLM)
    Other stuff matters not

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  24. Tarnished says:

    Think that she kinda liked being objectified by her husband remember I do

    Objectify a loved one you can?
    Impossible this would seem…

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  25. Mrs. Yoda says:

    Big boobs have I do.
    Enough said this is

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  26. Tarnished says:

    Boob Lives Matter (BLM)
    Other stuff matters not

    Penises matter they do.

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  27. Cill says:

    A wide safe space for Mrs Y in her cups we would need.
    Padded walls it would need.

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  28. Cill says:

    Trigger warnings of danger of concussion it would have,
    When Mrs Y goes swinging in her cups she does.

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  29. Moehau Man says:

    Yes well, I’ve yet to see a foreign sheila pink or green that can compete with a senior Moehau Man female in full swing.

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  30. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Mrs,. Yoda,
    Good to hear fro you it is.
    Many sandwiches for padawans you do make.

    Years ago, I was advised to limit my compliments to attributes that are under the control of the intedned recipient. Boobs, while they are very nice, do not qualify.

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  31. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Moehau Man,
    I don’t think that I would like to see a competition of this sort.

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  32. Moehau Man says:

    A swinging competition of foreign sheilas would be a bit of a non-event by Moehau standards. They lack chest hairs for a start (except Big Red who has chest hairs like bed springs).

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  33. Tarnished says:

    Years ago, I was advised to limit my compliments to attributes that are under the control of the intended recipient.

    Same right here!

    Boobs, while they are very nice, do not qualify.

    Yup. El s ew

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  34. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Now, the magnificent physique of our avatar may be another matter. Choosing your avatar was within your control.


  35. Ame says:

    Mrs. Yoda needs to help Mr. Yoda find a picture for his gravatar, she does!


  36. Ame says:

    the irony is that the women who complain about being objectified are often the ones objectifying men 🙂

    years ago i knew a beautiful woman. we were at a pool party where where she was wearing a bright red bikini top and skort bottoms … and she came up to me and actually complained, “They keep looking at my boobs!” i remember thinking … i know you’re iq is exceptionally high (it was), so why are you not getting this?!

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  37. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I will bet you a doughnut that they were something to see. All she had to do was to put on a shirt to stop feeling self conscious.

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  38. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny is the genius for finding avatars. I think that he has found one for nearly all of us. But, finding one for Mrs. Yoda may prove difficult. This is the only place I know of, except Bloom’s, where she has appeared publicly.

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  39. Ame says:

    Fuzzie – they were. she had a beautiful body and knew how to use it to her advantage. i think she was more drawing attention to herself speaking it to me than she was complaining … and it seems it was a church pool party, too – perhaps she thought church men wouldn’t be as interesting in a woman’s body as non-church men? idk.

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  40. Ame says:

    my husband loves all the objects of my body 🙂

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  41. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Men who go to church aren’t dead. She was being silly. As for your husband, Iit is good that he fels that way.

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  42. There was a post on return of kings about a gal who went to a nudist beach then complained people looked at her. I mean I know it’s not supposed to be sexual but hello — who doesn’t look at naked people? At least sideways???

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  43. If I went to a nudist beach, I’d look at everybody I am sure! Lol. People watching and all… Just another level!

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  44. Cill says:

    Striding around on nudist beaches, as I have done, I have to be mindful of the fact that not all men are born equal.

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  45. Cill says:

    Res ipsa loquitur


  46. Ame says:

    hehehe … y’all are funnee!

    i actually have a sibling who, with their spouse, spends much time on nudist beaches and colonies around the world. there is not one part of me that has ever desired to join them!

    however … as BV so aptly pointed out recently … Texas in July and August can be brutal. if my children were not teenagers, i would probably spend much of my time in the privacy of my home and backyard wearing little-to-nothing during those desperately hot days which would delight my beloved husband to no end 😉

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  47. I had to comment on this link from the last post. What an idiot this gal is!


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  48. Tarnished says:

    I would like to stay at a nudist colony at some point in my life.

    Many objects in motion they would be, lol.

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  49. Spawny Get says:

    Homework to do before Choicy returns from the never-never

    because no one wants to be a boofhead.

    all the classics

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  50. Spawny Get says:

    Man DGAS according to Ton’s advice (is my guess)

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  51. Spawny Get says:

    Bill Burr discovers Men are better than Women

    I bought the book, funny as hell

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  52. Yoda says:

    Years ago, I was advised to limit my compliments to attributes that are under the control of the intended recipient.

    So compliment a boob job you would?

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  53. Cill says:

    If nudists claim a stretch of beach for themselves I’ll walk along it to get from point A to point B, and I’ll look around me as I would on any beach. Why should I alter my behaviour? I’m rude enough to leave my pants on, too.

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  54. Cill says:

    On topic.

    I walked along a nudist beach with some of my female rellies once. Everyone stared at my rellies, the only non-nude women in sight. I saw pissed-off looks on the faces of nude women. They didn’t like to see their objects being upstaged.

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  55. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I don’t think that I would compliment a boob job. You have found an exception.

    I don’t doubt that the nudists would be jealous of your female relatives hogging all the attention when they are fully clothed. It’s not like they can undress any more.

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  56. Tarnished says:

    Cill & Fuzzie,

    That story makes me facepalm. I thought the point of being in a nudist area was to embrace comfort and acceptance of your body, regardless of breast/penis size. Not to hog attention by throwing off social norms.


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  57. Cill says:

    Tarn, yes that’s my understanding of the point of nudism too. However it was pretty obvious on that beach that Woman is Woman, nudism be damned.

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  58. Cill says:

    I’m laughing at the way Fuzzy put it there.

    It’s not like they can undress any more.

    Yep, they had played all their cards (or if you prefer, they were left with a bum hand)

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  59. And the female relies proved a little mystery can be more alluring than none at all!

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  60. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    It is an amusing scenario to contemplate. Cill’s female rlatives are so beautiful that ordinary women canoot compete. The more intelligent would say that they were there to get an all over tan without lines and sidestep the issue.
    Now, if I were there, you wouldn’t see me out of my fur coat.


  61. SFC Ton says:

    LOL yup.
    Later gator and get on with your life

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  62. SFC Ton says:

    This one time at band camp some crazy bitch was banging on my window while I was banging this other chick. So I get up and chase the crazy bitch off in my best professional manner. Dead eyes and all

    I go back to my bed and the bitch I was banging says “guess i’m the main bitch now”. We laugh get to talking and she admits watching me handle the crazy bitch like a boss turned her on.

    The dead pan, later gator about being in control of the situation and how it will elevate your frame. Which will keep one or possibly both bitches in play

    Go all beta about it and you lose both bitches. Which requires time and effort to fill their old time slot with new trim

    Frame is everything

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  63. Spawny Get says:

    Some justice

    Germany’s justice ministry has drawn up a change in the law which would require mothers in certain paternity cases to reveal who they had slept with.
    The measure would apply when men who had supported a child, believing that they were the father, sought financial redress in court.
    They could thus more easily claim maintenance back from the actual biological father.
    Women would only have the right to remain silent with “serious reasons”.
    Justice Minister Heiko Maas said (in German): “We need to offer more legal protection for ‘false’ fathers to seek financial compensation”.
    The precise wording of the new paragraph states that the mother would be obliged to provide information to the man on “who has lain with her during the conception period”.
    Men in this situation were already able to try to claim back money paid for a child that was not theirs.
    The draft change follows a ruling by Germany’s highest court in March 2015 that there was no legal basis to force mothers of so-called “cuckoo children”, in German slang, to name the biological father.

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  64. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    I saw that earlier. That has to be the first thing that i have seen world wide that addresses paternity fraud. There is a drawback to it. It would limit to two years the amount of money the injured father could sue for.However, this is much better than the French method, which bans DNA testing, so the father is forever in doubt.

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  65. mgtowhorseman says:

    Simple solution. When in Germany ONS only under an assumed name. “Me Frauline? Herr Bond. No his brother.”

    As marriage gives way to LTR gives way to STR paternity will be a larger issue and the natural de-evolution will be as we are seeing in the black community. Hundreds of babymammas with no clue who the daddy is and the real daddys saying “I don’t care if it is mine, piss off.”

    There will be a short period of trying to jail unsupportive babydaddies.

    But remember, there is a coming labour shortage of upwards of 20%. IF all the able bodied men want to work. (Cue the millenials)

    They can’t remove that many producers and taxpayers from the system. And threat of garnishee just reinforces the desire not to work.

    As the Soviets learned. “We pretend to work and they pretend to get child support from us.”

    Men will quickly see with 20% of the population under 15, 20% over 65, and of the remaining 60% is womens they have quiet leverage. Just withdraw the services of the 30% that keeps all that social security, alimony, child support, welfare, blah blah blah going.

    Sure give us an excuse to not aspire to higher work, to live in peace alone on 12k a year. Go ahead. I dare you.

    None of the interest groups link the big picture.
    Japan and Detroit are the two canaries. The future West wide is some combination of the two.

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  66. mgtowhorseman says:

    2010 Where have all the good men gone

    2020 where have all the good workers gone

    2030 where have all the good taxpayers gone

    2035 where did everybody go. and who turned out the lights

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  67. SFC Ton says:

    Heayna Road

    Legit movie. Has its dumb shit girl power/ romance angle and a lot of technical failures but it does a good of portraying how untenable the military goals for Afghanistan (& iraq) where/ are

    Nation building will always fail and is beyond the ability of any super power

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  68. mgtowhorseman says:

    The perfect storm of economic stagnation, demographics, a massive political shift as boomers age out of power, and the awakening of widespread mgtow is going to hit some tipping point.

    Not sure what but all of a sudden the birds gonna come home to roost. It will be sudden and ugly.

    Not violent or political like sufferage was. more just a sudden and wide spread quiet checkout. Just massive amounts of men staying home or putting in minimal efforts.

    Librarys have been written on men’s tendency to withdraw from a losing game and to make cold, unemotional, ruthless decisions when their survival is at stake.

    Not sure what it will be but some kind of call to action for men like a natural disaster, economic collapse or just a cologne new years in NYC. Where are the men?

    And we answer “Busy, not interested, fix it yourselves like good SIWs.”

    Same as the west learned very suddenly how unchecked unscreened immigration has consequences. And western men are still remarkably silent.

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  69. mgtowhorseman says:

    Since the end of theatre wide warfare, nation building died. Before the concourer stayed in place to rule after the total destruction of the land’s ability to fight.

    Modern weaponry makes insurgency possible. No land can be totally policed and controlled by force.

    Nationbuilding can only be done by the people themselves.
    Unfortunately modern infrastructure requires a wide range of elites…engineers, controllers, supervisors, communicators etc. that are the first to go in a people led revolution. So internal nationbuilding is out. See Venezuala for example or Simalia.

    Modern change can only be done by slower political change in stable societies. And that is challenged by the need for rapid change caused by economic shifts, climate change, technical change.

    Force….cannot be gauranteed.
    Internal…not skilled enough to rebuild
    Political…too slow.

    Basically we are fucked. Something is gonna happen and its gonna be Really really interesting….and REAL

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  70. Ame says:

    we watched Hyena Road the other night, and i was wondering how authentic it is. is the military stuff authentic?


  71. mgtowhorseman says:

    Oh and for those who are unclear about what is coming.
    Top trending story on the CBC news site.


    And this is for semi skilled labour in a small food factory.

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  72. SFC Ton says:

    Which military stuff?


  73. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I only glanced at the link but, they are doing all that to recruit help in a weak economy? It will come down to those who can will work and those who can’t will shop. Not an outcome that I would like to see.

    Why do they think that only one in twenty five children will have a different father in Germany? For those who suspect incorrect paternit, it is one in three. A good guess for the US is one in ten overall.

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  74. Ame says:

    all of it … the ‘camp’ inside the wire … living quarters … the fighting.


  75. Yoda says:

    Target’s same-store transactions, which is how traffic is measured, fell 2.2% in the second quarter. Overall, sales fell 7.2% to $16.2 billion. “In the second quarter, our No. 1 challenge was traffic, which affected sales in all of our merchandise categories,” Target CEO Brian Cornell said last week on a call with analysts.
    Shopper traffic is falling amid a boycott over Target’s new policy, announced earlier this year, that welcomes customers to use any bathroom or fitting room that matches their gender identity. The announcement triggered an immediate backlash. Critics said the policy opened the door for sexual predators to victimize women and children inside the retailer’s bathrooms, and more than 1.4 million people signed a pledge to stop shopping at Target unless it reversed the policy.


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  76. Yoda says:


    Nearly a third of all of the city’s adults said they had not had intercourse or oral sex in a year, according to the latest 2014 statistics.


  77. SFC Ton says:

    Pretty legit
    I have lived on KAF for 2 years or there abouts
    They had actual footage in the movie

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  78. Yoda says:

    Get back to talking about boobs we should


  79. Ame says:

    nudist beacher wannabe


  80. Ame says:

    Ton – wow. i kept thinking about you and others out there who have fought and are fighting … and my heart wept at it all. and i am deeply grateful. thank you.

    i thought the words of that guy who said he lied to his wife and told her he always stayed inside the wire were wise … he was right, she needed to sleep well at night. there are somethings we don’t need to know … or at least until after the event 🙂


  81. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    “Get back to talking about boobs we should.”
    While they are great to look at,they son’t say very much. Could that be the attraction?

    A nuidist beach in Monterey? I don’t think so.


  82. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Just finished watching this. Awesome. It’s an hour and a half.

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  83. Boobs… Let’s see. Well, there are usually two. And they can vary in size but ideally both are similar sized and shaped per individual. They are kindof like fingerprints in each set tends to be unique…. Not sure what else I can say really. Oh yeah, they make milk for babies and seem to be universally appreciated perhaps for this reason? Boobs are good. Yep, boobs are a good thing. Lol!

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  84. My phone died just as I pushed send on that last post. I feared my thoughts on boobs were lost forever but apparently not! Ah well, I was kinda hoping it had been lost to save me from embarrassing myself. No such luck! 😀 booooooobs! Lol

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  85. Yoda says:

    Thought that Tarn’s boobs talk about we were

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  86. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    All girls have them and they are tailor made for each. And what is even better, they never have an unkind word for anybody.

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  87. Cill says:

    Boobs… Let’s see. Well, there are usually two.

    Should we not create a safe space for the monoboob

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  88. Ame says:

    how does Mrs. Yoda feel about Mr. Yoda’s rather strong attraction to Tarn’s boobies?! 🙂

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  89. Cill says:

    how does Mrs. Yoda feel about Mr. Yoda’s rather strong attraction to Tarn’s boobies



  90. Cill says:

    A conspiritorial question, that.


  91. Cill says:

    A compelling question as well. A highly amusing question, actually.

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  92. I have nothing to add about Tarn’s boobs,lol! 🙂

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  93. Ame says:

    i never got to read J4G … but urban dictionary has ‘tagging’ defined here:



  94. Sumo says:

    For the record, I am highly in favor of seeing a picture of Tarn’s boobies. 😉

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  95. Ame says:

    for the record … i’m not! lol! 🙂

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  96. Sumo says:

    We’re talking about boobies here – your opinion is invalid.

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  97. SFC Ton says:

    No those words are unwise
    All that lie does is set you up for a lot of bullshit from your wife

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  98. SFC Ton says:

    Her opinion is always invalid
    Goes with the her being a her thing

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  99. Ame says:

    i will take your word for it as i don’t know anyone married to one in the military and didn’t grow up in a military family.

    i am curious, though … what should a guy tell his wife? anything? nothing?


  100. SFC Ton says:

    Tell her nothing
    I have not yet the wife who doesn’t think she has the worst end of the deal while you are down range. Most likely because we don’t talk about the hardships and dangers unless we can make a joke about it.

    1st deployment she is worried etc, byou the 3rd deployment she is a bitch. And that’s best case. Often that transition takes about 90 days on deployment #1

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  101. Tarnished says:

    Shopper traffic is falling amid a boycott over Target’s new policy, announced earlier this year, that welcomes customers to use any bathroom or fitting room that matches their gender identity.

    *rolls eyes*
    They didn’t need to be vocal about this policy. Hell, they didn’t even need it. Trans men and women who pass as their gender without any problems have been using the restrooms that suit them for decades. Why? Because if a woman can successfully look like a man, people would flip the fuck out if said person tried to use the Women’s bathroom. Same for a man who passes for a woman…dudes would tell ’em they’re in the wrong bathroom.

    I appreciate what Target was attempting to do, but it was honestly unnecessary and just caused a ruckus.

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  102. Ame says:

    “down range” i assume means deployed?

    – – –
    “1st deployment she is worried etc, byou the 3rd deployment she is a bitch. And that’s best case. Often that transition takes about 90 days on deployment #1”

    why do you think it’s like this? idk any military wives, so i have nothing to go on … but i am curious. i would guess that you would recommend not being married while in the military?


  103. Tarnished says:

    My ta-tas are pretty nice, according to Seamus and other men…plus a few lesbians. 36DD, but I prefer wearing a 36D brasserie to keep ’em in check. They are what they are. I have yet to find a binder that isn’t uncomfortable after a few hours, which sucks. :/


  104. Tarnished says:

    1st deployment she is worried etc, byou the 3rd deployment she is a bitch.

    Ugh, I don’t get that.
    It’s dissimilar, but one of my uncles is still in the Army and one of my brothers is still in the Marines. Whenever they get deployed I worry about them. Why *wouldn’t* you care about what’s happening to a loved one in a hostile foreign country?


  105. Tarnished says:

    Do men want to be sexually objectified by women?


  106. SFC Ton says:

    I think it should be against the military code of justice to be full time active and married

    Why? Solipsism
    Dalrock has a peice about solipsism, women and ww2 but for women it’s all about women.

    Of all the shitty women out there military wives tend to be queens of the shut heap

    Liked by 1 person

  107. Spawny Get says:

    “Do men want to be sexually objectified by women?”
    s’obvious…yes. Not heard of her worshipping the cock as being the bedrock of a solid relationship?

    Liked by 2 people

  108. SFC Ton says:

    For men, women pretty much either view you as a sex object or a rented mule…. alpha or beta

    Liked by 2 people

  109. Tarnished says:


    Well, yes. I worship Seamus as much as he allows me to. But I do it because I love him, which obviously includes his cock but also his mind and the rest of his body. If I didn’t care about him then I wouldn’t care about his satisfaction.


  110. Tarnished says:

    For men, women pretty much either view you as a sex object or a rented mule…. alpha or beta

    What code would you use for a man who is a person? Zeta?

    Liked by 1 person

  111. Spawny Get says:

    She makes a fortune on nudist beaches during the off-season…probably

    And not a hint of racism or yes indeed, I can get a band-aid tit-cosy in my skin colour privilege

    Liked by 2 people

  112. Spawny Get says:

    Holy Crap! Fuzzie’s linked video was showing a reality even worse than I expected

    Liked by 2 people

  113. Mrs. Yoda says:

    For 800 year awesome boobs I have had.
    Withstood all challenges they have

    Liked by 3 people

  114. SFC Ton says:

    Alphas are people
    Betas are people

    Zetas are ruthless narcotics traffickers/ terrorist out of Mexico. Initially they were an army battalion our Special Forces brought up to a near on elite level. But they changed sides once their training was completed

    Kind of thinking they are all dead now but they are the ones who to drug violence in Mexico to its new level. So yeah, pretty warm and fuzzy kind of guys

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  115. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Spawny Get,
    That was a feature length documentary that was released in theaters awhile ago. Yes, it is good.

    About Tarn’s boobies, what if she really is a unicorn? She will only have them if she is nursing a foal.

    About Mrs. Yoda, I would like to see a picture of her. At a guess, she should look like a feminie Yoda.

    Liked by 1 person

  116. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Thied wave feminist promoting MGTOW in a picture.
    What an attitude!

    Liked by 1 person

  117. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I get the feeling that the EU may collapse under its own weight.
    If I read that right, it seems tha Apple set up a company in Ireland to handle all EU sales. They then paid Ireland tax at a very favorable rate. Now rhw EU wants thirteen billion euros from Apple to compensate other EU countries.

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  118. Ame says:

    “Zetas are ruthless narcotics traffickers/ terrorist out of Mexico. Initially they were an army battalion our Special Forces brought up to a near on elite level. But they changed sides once their training was completed”

    wow … i didn’t know that.


  119. SFC Ton says:

    Few do
    Another reasons why I am agiant universal suffrage

    Liked by 1 person

  120. Ame says:

    is that common? for our military men to switch sides?

    do you think it’s premeditated? that they’re plants?


  121. Spawny Get says:

    You’ll need one of these when the Trumpnado touches down

    Liked by 1 person

  122. Spawny Get says:

    That and a gallon of butthurt cream for Killary


  123. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Here is someone who voted for Leave.

    Liked by 1 person

  124. SFC Ton says:

    Is it common for White men to switch sides? No

    Is it common for non Whites to switch sides? So common it’s boring

    Liked by 1 person

  125. Ame says:

    wow. i had no idea it was that common.

    my first husband grew up overseas and actually saw this a lot. it left a very bitter taste towards a lot of other cultures.


  126. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    THREE POINTS!!! A swish from the half court line.


  127. SFC Ton says:

    I remember listening to this hippie bitch talk about how people were people and if we all visited other cultures we’d see that and get along better


    Liked by 1 person

  128. Tarnished says:

    Ton, that is interesting, but I was actually thinking of this definition when I remarked about Zeta men:



  129. SFC Ton says:

    #1 i think a bucket of shit has more value the elam

    That zeta thing and vox’s sigma seem like the male version of special snow flake

    Liked by 1 person

  130. Yoda says:

    A new post there would be

    Liked by 1 person

  131. Tarnished says:

    Zeta was used for far longer than Elam had any “rights” for. Kinda a MGTOW-esqu term.


  132. SFC Ton says:

    Doesn’t change the special snow flake vibe of the term


  133. Tarnished says:

    Ah, so once again we need to come up with a new word that suits Ton’s ideals yet still retains the original definition.

    Any suggestions?


  134. Yoda says:


    Liked by 2 people

  135. Tarnished says:

    Waitaminute here…
    Why are we only talking about *my* tits?

    If I recall correctly, Bloom also has a significant bosom.

    Liked by 1 person

  136. SFC Ton says:

    Nope don’t give a shit, but it reeks of whatever weird mental thing those college kids have when they ramble off a lost of shit like cisgendergendedqueerdoorkobosysexualwithpansexualtemdcies.

    It’s just fucking stupid


  137. Spawny Get says:

    I was never clear on the difference between Zeta and MGTOW. I got the impression that Zeta was an attempt to ‘own’ MGTOW byPaul Elam without another punch-up over ownership of the term MGTOW…that he loses every time.

    Liked by 3 people

  138. Yoda says:

    If I recall correctly, Bloom also has a significant bosom.

    Only one significant one she has?
    The other much smaller it would be?

    Liked by 2 people

  139. Tarnished says:


    How many bosoms does one need, lol.


  140. Tarnished says:


    That’s kinda how I think of the terms Alpha and Beta…Nobody is 100% one or the other.

    Liked by 1 person

  141. Tarnished says:


    The way I’ve seen it used (outside of AVfM, because they turned shitty really quick) is that MGTOW have fully washed their hands of society…to different extents, of course.

    Zetas, however, are essentially MGTOW who still give a damn and will still work towards changing legislation into something fairer to males. Also, they tend to be slightly more Purple than Red because they don’t see a need to go back to standard gender roles for either sex.

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  142. Spawny Get says:

    How many?

    One for each hand as a minimum, you can always nuzzle the rest


  143. Yoda says:

    So if one hand you do have?


  144. Spawny Get says:

    Nuzzle the other booby in question, to be on the safe side…nuzzle them all (lest one gets jealous)


  145. Yoda says:

    So a specific type of MGTOW tarnboobs are.


  146. Spawny Get says:

    “Nope don’t give a shit, but it reeks of whatever weird mental thing those college kids have when they ramble off”

    I must admit that I’m not keen on labels for labels’ sake. I don’t want to ‘belong’ in order to claim an identity. The modern social media disease.

    MGTOW is very loose, it’s useful for spreading the word to men who have heard of it, or the red pill. Those are the reasons that I find the label acceptable/useful


  147. SFC Ton says:

    I use the alpha beta thing a lot here in the man o sphere because it’s convenient but to me it’s will he keep his shit tight in the ugly. If yes, good to go, if not he can go suck dick with the rest of the bitches

    Seems to me when folks use the all men are a combination of alpha/ beta phrase what they are doing is dehumanizing alphas/ removing any sort of alpha emotional life. Apha is about frame. There isnt an emotion out there that cannot be express while maintaining frame. Ex a man can be a loving father and keep a strong masculine frame. Or he can be a loving father and be a complete whiny bitch with his kids. A man can cry at a grave sight with out being an emotional wreck. Etc etc

    So…. yeah I think line of thinking is false.

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  148. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    What is troublesome about the alpha/beta ting is that it implies that the reader cohnform to the writer’s concepts of masculinity.

    I have heard that about Bloom too. There seems to be a correlation between the size of hearts and bustlines.


  149. SFC Ton says:

    Thereally is only one version of masculinity
    Everything else is an attempt to escape the brutal reality of life


  150. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Since the description of the offending brawlers was glaringly obvious in its absence, it must be safe to presume they are not native to France.

    Liked by 2 people

  151. Spawny Get says:

    That’s a very cynical nature that you have there, Fuzzie.

    Liked by 1 person

  152. FNU MNU LNU says:

    pics or it doesn’t exist! lol

    Liked by 1 person

  153. FNU MNU LNU says:

    Women should have three breasts – two in front and one in the back for dancing. – Al Bundy…

    Liked by 2 people

  154. Tarnished says:

    Only Seamus gets those from me, FML. 😉 💋

    Liked by 1 person

  155. FNU MNU LNU says:

    ah, and just why do you think I was talking about yours???


    Liked by 1 person

  156. Tarnished says:

    It showed up in my WordPress app, which only happens when someone clicks Reply on my comments…


  157. FNU MNU LNU says:

    Tarnished – “If I recall correctly, Bloom also has a significant bosom.”

    I think was your comment that I was replying too.

    Liked by 1 person

  158. Tarnished says:

    Then yes. I agree. 😉


  159. FNU MNU LNU says:

    OK, so I meant yours as well. Happy now???

    lol 😉

    Liked by 1 person

  160. Spawny Get says:

    Once again, jubblies bring peace and contentment to the world.

    Liked by 1 person

  161. Tarnished says:

    Nice try but no cigar, brah. ,;)


  162. FNU MNU LNU says:

    And here I was trying to be nice and not make you feel left out… 😉

    Liked by 1 person

  163. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    We should find something else to talk about, like the magnificent horn on your avatar.


  164. Tarnished says:

    No worries there. I’m used to it.


  165. FNU MNU LNU says:

    It’d be a nice change from just being thought of as a paycheck!

    Liked by 2 people

  166. Ame says:

    my husband never minds it when i sexually objectify him 😉

    Liked by 2 people

  167. Tarnished says:

    Lol. The job I have right now is the best one I’ve ever been in, and I really like most of my clients, plus I have good friends, and last but never least, the love of Seamus, who is a great man.

    My previous comment was geared more towards my family…black sheep that I am. None of them know how to deal with the semi-transgendered, nontradcon, gamer in their midst. 😛

    Liked by 2 people

  168. FNU MNU LNU says:

    Wait! What does men wanting to be sexually objectified by women, have anything to do with your family???


    Liked by 1 person

  169. Spawny Get says:

    Aah, dark humour. Now I know that I’m home…


  170. Yoda says:

    Women should have three breasts – two in front and one in the back for dancing.

    Only Seamus gets those from me, FML.😉 💋

    Only Seemus sees your three breasts he does?

    With DD see the virtue of having balancing boobie in the back I do


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