What Do Powerful Women Deserve?


The answer, of course, is “it all”.   Even love.  Let us consider the situation.  From here, referring to Hillary,

I thought she looked mean. I thought she didn’t smile enough. I thought she was old and a killjoy and a nag and I couldn’t understand why the charming and funny Bill Clinton had married her. I thought she had too high of an opinion of herself. I thought she didn’t know her place.  

When the Lewinsky scandal happened I thought, “Of course he cheated on her, anyone married to that bitch would cheat on her.” I was young and naive enough back then to think that husbands only cheat when they hate their wives or are not getting what they want at home. I assumed that Bill and Hillary were going to break up, and when they didn’t break up I decided their marriage was a sham and they were only staying together because of the optics of the situation. I certainly did not believe him when he said that he loved her.

Everybody can see what Hillary is.  And deep down, everybody, guy or gal, knows that men like certain types of women as wives.  Women that have this, this, plus lots of other fine characteristics (most of which are missing in the “high-powered types”).  As much as women pretend to be independent thinkers, they still take their cues from men (e.g. if men thought that fat women were beautiful, all women would be fat).  So the author was channelling the perspective of men on this issue.

But with maturity, indoctrination and such, perspectives change,

We live in a world that teaches us that certain women—strong women, outspoken women, women of a certain age or appearance—are profoundly unloveable. This is as untrue as it is unfair, and buying into it is just another way of subscribing to the same old patriarchal idea that only women who conform to a strict set of prescribed gender roles deserve love. I deserve love and so do all of the other mouthy bitches out there, and I’m profoundly grateful to Hillary Clinton for helping me recognize that.

Well yes, the world does teach that strong women, outspoken women, women of a certain age or appearance—are profoundly unloveable.  Once again, it men as a whole who are deciding this.   Though it does seem that with discipline, power-couples do seem to make a go of it.  But are they happy?  Is the woman in such arrangements profoundly unlovable?  “This is as untrue as it is unfair.”  To answer that, it does seem to be true and perhaps it is unfair.

The claim that it is just a patriarchal idea is silly.  This is alluding to the social construct idea, where people are taught ideas and behaviors that are contrary to reality.  The “social constructs” that feminists and SJWs object so much to almost always have some basis with respect to pre-dispositions.  This is a topic for a future post, but suffice it to say, people have to work extra hard to convince themselves that these are imposed from above by the evil patriarchy.

So do all women deserve love?  Do all men deserve respect?

 

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130 comments on “What Do Powerful Women Deserve?
  1. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I don’t have to love Hillary. From the litttle that I have heard about her, I think that I would be happier avoiding her company.
    Years ago, I went through supervisorial training. An old boss told me that women bosses are at a disadvantage. They are either loved or hated. With men, all they have to do is be accepted.

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  2. FNU LNU says:

    First off, I don’t see where the world teaches anyone that powerful or strong women are unlovable.

    It may be that a lot of them are just bitches, but not all of them are.

    As for what any of us deserve, it really doesn’t matter. People get what they get, regardless of good or bad deeds. The most miserable and hateful bastard, might have someone who loves him. The most caring and love filled woman, may end up all alone.

    We deserve what we are willing to put in to a relationship.

    We just don’t always get it in return.

    YMMV

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  3. Yoda says:

    Perhaps world teaches this not.
    But high powered bitches do
    Everyone sees this they do

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  4. Yoda says:

    I don’t have to love Hillary

    Respect her you must?

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  5. Yoda says:

    As for what any of us deserve, it really doesn’t matter.

    Deserve to live on Degoba I do not

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  6. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Respect Hillary? As you would respect an enemy.

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  7. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Yoda,
    Would you rather live on Tattooine? You would get to vist what Obi Wan called a “wretched hive of scum and villainy.” All planets have drawbacks.

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  8. Ash says:

    Be lovable and you will be loved.
    Be respectable and you will be respected.

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  9. Ame says:

    The Question: So do all women deserve love? Do all men deserve respect?

    Short answer: No.

    Long answer: God created man. Then He created woman from man, for man, to be a helper to man. God placed them in the Garden of Eden and gave them literally everything they could ever want – in other words, God told them they could say “yes” to everything EXCEPT only ONE thing. The woman listened to her Enemy, disrespecting her Creator, and broke the one and only NO rule and got the man to do the same. God kicked them out of perfection and gave them their consequences, punishment, which would be passed down to every other man and woman created on this earth. To the woman, God told her, among other things, that her desire would be for her husband and he would rule over her. To the man, God told him that because he listened to his wife, work to provide for his family would now be harsh. Later in the Bible it is written that husbands should love their wives and wives should respect and submit to their husbands. Why would God state this? Because women naturally do not respect or submit, as was proven by the first woman ever created, so God commanded women to choose to respect and submit to their husbands; it would not be natural. And husbands are commanded to love their wives and they love their own bodies so that he might ‘sanctify and cleanse’ her. This is not an, “if / then” thing. It’s a command. Respect and submit to your husband, regardless. Love your wife, regardless. Taken a step further, when Jesus died for us He did so because He loved/loves us, not because we deserve it.

    Deserve? No.
    Commanded? Yes.

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  10. Cill says:

    The woman listened to her Enemy, disrespecting her Creator, and broke the one and only NO rule and got the man to do the same.

    What was “the one and only NO rule”?

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  11. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Cill,
    Trusting to memory, “Don not eat the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil for, on that day, you shal surely die.”

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  12. Cill says:

    Fuzzy I looked it up in my Bible. You remember correctly. It is commonly known as “the apple”, which I already knew. I didn’t initially connect the apple with “the one and only NO rule” in Ame’s comment at 2:34 am. As you know, I’m not a Christian or religious. The “apple” myth doesn’t seem to tell us much.

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  13. Ame says:

    Cill – the Bear is right.

    In the Garden, God put man in charge of everything. He made woman to help the man. He gave them work, food, beauty, and He even spent time with them every day. Oh … and no clothing necessary or even thought of! Naked it was … so no laundry! 🙂

    God told them eat whatever you want, but do not eat from The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. the woman did it anyway. then she gave it to the man, and he ate. and their eyes were opened … and they then knew, had knowledge of, both good and evil.

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=genesis+1-3&version=NKJV

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  14. Ame says:

    oops, Cill – sorry … i hadn’t refreshed my screen before you posted your comment.

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  15. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    No laundry?! What a wonderfoul idea! I just go swimming.

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  16. Cill says:

    I just go swimming.

    It’s called Starkers, Down Under.

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  17. Cill says:

    O what a tangled web we weave
    When first we practice to deceive

    How much more wealthy we would be
    If first we practice to deceive

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  18. Hopefully people can see the truth about H… I hope I hope. It’s not good. Would not be good…

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  19. Cill says:

    The Devil looks after his own

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  20. FNU LNU says:

    Law according to Costanza: it’s not a lie if you believe it.

    Law according to Clinton: it’s not a lie if I think you might believe it.

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  21. Yoda says:

    Be lovable and you will be loved.
    Be respectable and you will be respected.

    Often true this is.
    But perhaps not true enough for many people in order to provide an incentive it would be

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  22. Yoda says:

    How much more wealthy we would be
    If first we practice to deceive

    Trump should attack the Clinton Foundation hard he should.
    Along with speaking fees.
    Perhaps keeping powder dry he is

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  23. JDG says:

    Ame says:
    20 August, 2016 at 2:34 am

    If I could, I would like this comment. An excellent summary. Though rarely deserved, love to the wife and respect for the husband should be given anyhow because God has made it clear that this is how husbands and wives should relate to each other.

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  24. JDG says:

    If a woman respects her husband she WILL make him sammiches!

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  25. Yoda says:

    Though rarely deserved, love to the wife and respect for the husband should be given anyhow because God has made it clear that this is how husbands and wives should relate to each other.

    Post this again for emphasis I will.
    The way it should be it is.

    And sammiches

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  26. Yoda says:

    The “texting and driving” joke has many layers it does.
    If thought about it shallowly you did,
    think deeper you should

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  27. Yoda says:

    Been maybe a week since Tarn overshared she did

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  28. Ame says:

    and then my husband smiles and says, “You don’t play fair!” 😉

    Like

  29. Ame says:

    there are those in the world who will not love or respect you regardless of how loving or respectable you are.

    jealousy and hate trump love and respect.

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  30. FNU LNU says:

    You really need to post more about to stop an argument, the ladies should do…

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  31. Ame says:

    i shared this with my husband when he called – he was out driving somewhere, and he made two wrong turns just talking about it 😉

    tehehehehe 🙂

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  32. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    More argument stoppers. Warning: there are a lot of Dodges in this video.

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  33. Yoda says:

    Talking about what to him you were?

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  34. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I can’t imagine what Ame was talking about. It probably wasn’t about directions.

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  35. Ame says:

    https://spawnyspace.wordpress.com/2016/08/20/what-do-powerful-women-deserve/#comment-63775

    and all the other many variations 😉

    – – –

    really … i keep thinking that at some point it will get ‘old’ and not work anymore, but that hasn’t happened yet!

    Like

  36. Ame says:

    aaaaand since he’s working this evening … fixing to take my daughters and sister out to dinner at this local, hole-in-the-wall, italian place. i swear it’s a front for something, but the food is awesome!

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  37. Lol that is a good post idea, how women can reduce an argement! Lol.

    Sadly Ame is also right that in some relationships the other party is going to spur on fights even if you are doing all you can to NOT fight, w people like that one needs to beware walking into their set up, they often set the stage for such fights so one must be a step ahead. Learned this from many confusing years of being in such a relationship. Then of course the blame you, too. Not fun.

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  38. Yoda says:

    Deserves another viewing this does.
    Perhaps Tarn it is

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  39. Yoda says:

    I thought she looked mean. I thought she didn’t smile enough. I thought she was old and a killjoy and a nag

    Thought correctly you did.
    Now older she is

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  40. Cill says:

    Every time I open the door it’s the same dang thing. That bitch bends over, and I forget my name.

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  41. Spawny Get says:

    Tarn’s blond iirc, other attributes, however…

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  42. Cill says:

    I’m a bit surprised Yoda hasn’t remarked on that woman’s big round… earrings

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  43. Cill says:

    That would stop an argument with me, all right. I’m a sucker for a good pair of jugs.

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  44. SFC Ton says:

    Don’t be silly Cill
    They don’t have names unless you assigned them one

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  45. molly says:

    I cause biased treatment hopping off of my bike wearing my leathers. Cops eye me up and don’t give me a ticket. Hahaha!

    P.S. Hey see my American “off of”? (Heh heh)

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  46. Yoda says:

    Perhaps Tarn dyed her hair to fool us she did.

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  47. Yoda says:

    Notice the ear rings I did not

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  48. Yoda says:

    Should each have a name they should?
    Or collectively be named they might?

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  49. mgtowhorseman says:

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/the-lost-boys-video-games-more-fun-than-growing-up/article31464598/?reqid=b7d5a295-d8b9-43b7-a67b-deaa960dfc37

    Mostly Wente gets this stuff but here she reverses cause and effect. Marriage and work mold men yes. Into what society needs. But men today do not WANT marriage and work hence society goes hungry.

    That this is in a leading columnist in Canadas right wing paper shows how MGTOW is finally having an impact.

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  50. Yoda says:

    Perhaps a reason there is why I noticed the ear rings not

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  51. Yoda says:

    MGTOW horseman,

    See the future I can.
    Tommorow’s post about this subject it would be

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  52. mgtowhorseman says:

    said it before.

    Boomr retirement 20% of workforce.
    MGTOW removing even 5% additional workforce.
    SIWs entered workforce in 1990 now 40+ to take up the slack. tehe. bawaaaaaahahahahahaha.

    oh. Single Mom on the dole….Get A Job. Apply Today.

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  53. Spawny Get says:

    “Perhaps a reason there is why I noticed the ear rings not”
    A couple of reasons spring out to mind

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  54. Cill says:

    They don’t have names unless you assigned them one

    Why not something really imaginative, like “Left” and “Right”.

    “Left” gets more attention from me because in my humble experience it’s usually the more sensitive on a right-handed woman. Oh yeah.

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  55. mgtowhorseman says:

    Wente questions why the boys stay home and their parents don’t kick them out.

    Guys not leaving …easy incentives. Food, board, laundry even if they pay rent.

    But everyone wonders why the ParentS dont kick them out.

    Cause it aint parentS. its Single Mom. Singular.
    Mom in the 80s to 90s now single mom of 20-30.
    She is at least 40. Never to have children again.
    Likely by now realizes will NEVER have a LTR Man ever again.
    Junior in the basement is the LAST MAN Who Will EVER Pay Attention To Her!!!!
    Once Junior leaves…..Cats!

    And lots of these guys are not basement trolls. They are tradesmen, engineers, STEM guys who just logically see incentives and a good deal at home and say I CAN get a good job but WILL I?

    So its the symbiosis feminism caused. Young men with no incentive to impress young women who dont need em and old ladies whose only attention is from blood relatives.
    Yeah Feminism. You go girl.

    Note there is lots on 30 SIWs, 30-40 divorcees, etc.
    But SILENCE on the 50+ empty nest divorcee ten years post gernade who no longer qualifies for child support and no male attention.

    Note if the first wave of divorces were the mid 80s with say baby in tow then child support up to child age 25 should run out about….in 3…2….1.

    (Yes I did the math. Married in 85 Youngest is 22. I am 52. At 55 my life can get sooooo much easier.)

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  56. mgtowhorseman says:

    http://captaincapitalism.blogspot.ca/2015/10/the-over-supply-of-single-moms.html?m=1

    Cap wrote about the oversupply. Now imagine these single moms as empty nesters. do the math.

    In Ontario the family court guideline is 900 per child per month. Imagine Single Mom loosing that when Junior leaves.

    Hmmm.
    get a job or foodstamps……hmmm job. food stamps.

    Tehe. And no not even Beta Bob gonna hit up your 50 ass.

    You thought the Wall was bad. We need a name for this!!
    The Loss of Child Support…..insert here.

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  57. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Horseman,
    That was a great find. She did neglect to mention that this is the end result of disincentivizing boys. Why do they have so much trouble seeing that?

    About the earrings, they are larger than Anita Sarkeesian’s.

    Cill,
    Left may be more sensitive but it has far easier access for a right handed man.

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  58. Cill says:

    Onya horseman. I share your glee.

    Like

  59. Cill says:

    Are horseman and mgtowhorseman the same person?

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  60. Yoda says:

    A couple of reasons spring out to mind

    Two of those “spring out” things have you do?
    Truly the Glorious Patriarch you are

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  61. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Horseman,
    The gal that I met through OkCupid, a 99% match, was one of those. I never went to Calgary to meet her. Just lots of telephome. She was still taking in child support and her boy was living in the basement along with his fiend.

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  62. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Cill,
    Horseman added Mgtow to his handle. Same commenter.

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  63. Cill says:

    Truly the Glorious Patriarch you are

    Cup or Donger? A double-D he would be.

    Like

  64. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Molly! forgot. *sad face* Burrito, burrito, burrito.

    Cill, would you explain for the Americans?

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  65. Yoda says:

    living in the basement along with his fiend.

    Living in a enclosed space like a basement with a fiend sounds dangerous it does

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  66. Cill says:

    Cill, would you explain for the Americans?

    A donger (as in donger of a bell) is another name for a pajama python or a one-eyed trouser snake. If the noble Patriarch springs out 2 of them he’s a double-D.

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  67. Cill says:

    There are two better-known words beginning with “D”, but as the Patriarch is neither dick nor dork I opted for donger, which is never used as a derogatory term Down Under. A pair of them would be sported with great pride for sure.

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  68. Yoda says:

    Wonder if Moe’s Mum makes such a codpiece I do

    Like

  69. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    You just reminded me of an old expression. “Busier than a two peckerd billygoat.”

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  70. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Horseman,
    I hadn’t thought about all these single moms going of child support at the same time. They may appeal to government but, it has to be more than they can handle. The answer will be “No”. If $900 is the mean, men will be that much richer per month and women that much poorer. Something is going to have to give.

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  71. Moehau Man says:

    Yes well, there is no room for freaks on the rugged Coromandel. As for double dorks, “You can have too much of a good thing”, Mrs Moehau Man (my practical old mum) called out just then.

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  72. Moehau Man says:

    “The market for the double-codpiece would be too small”, she added.

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  73. Yoda says:

    “The market for the double-codpiece would be too small”, she added.

    But to make the codpiece of the Glorious Patriarch a marketing coup that would be

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  74. Ame says:

    Horseman –
    “Note if the first wave of divorces were the mid 80s with say baby in tow then child support up to child age 25 should run out about….in 3…2….1.”

    child support until 25? really? for us it was 18/graduate from high school.

    and am i understanding that if kid stays after 25, child support continues?!

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  75. Moehau Man says:

    But to make the codpiece of the Glorious Patriarch a marketing coup that would be

    “That may be true of foreign climes but not of the rugged Coromandel”, Mrs Moehau Man says. “Unless”, she adds, “the Patriarch is prepared to vigorously promote the product.”

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  76. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Ame,
    In Canada, child support will continue if they attend college. My Canadisn interest was counting on this.

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  77. SFC Ton says:

    Lol I’m not that creative so I call all of them darling

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  78. Mo Man and Mo Mum, clever they are. Generalists likely do better than specialists, in most markets, codpieces included! Lol.

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  79. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Found this. If it goes through, the US will hand over the internet to the Un which is owned by feminists.

    Old news but pertinent.
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/25/u-n-womens-group-calls-for-web-censorship/

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  80. Cill says:

    Fuzzy,

    Of all the stupid decisions America has ever made, that has to be the most stupid. Feminism’s doctrinal “the Patriarchy” is behind it all.

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  81. Cill says:

    Clever people will go deeper into the ether.

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  82. Cill says:

    We may have to meet there in the future, my friends.

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  83. Spawny Get says:

    All this talk of double dongers reminds me of the classic film ‘Hell comes to Frogtown’…with the dance of the three snakes!

    “YOU have aroused The Three Snakes!”
    The reaction shot is priceless.

    The movie, after a few beers it’s cheesy fun with Rowdy Roddy Piper (the wrestler dude from They Live!)

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  84. Cill says:

    HAHAHAHAHA!

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  85. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    Cill,
    An objection can be made to the transfer. As the internet has value, Congress would have to sign off on the transfer. I hope that things stay as they are. A free intrnet is better than a censored one. It has the power to mold civilization as much as the printing press.

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  86. Cill says:

    Fuzzy, Congress will sign off on the transfer. It’s the vogue. Feminism is the empty barrel of the day.

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  87. Moehau Man says:

    Yes well young Bloom, we succeed without any attention to the labels “generalist” or “specialist” marketing.

    “I wouldn’t be where I am today”, was Mrs Moehau Man (my wealth-building old mum)’s comment just now, “if I hadn’t been attune to the human condition. Which is why BTW,” she added, “‘cool’ is the most fuckwit notion foreign marketers ever invented.”

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  88. Yoda says:

    Which is why BTW,” she added, “‘cool’ is the most fuckwit notion foreign marketers ever invented.”

    Agree with this I do.
    More important to be wise than to be cool it is.
    That is why talk like I do I do.
    Clearly wise sounding makes me it does

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  89. Spawny Get says:

    How can we make sounding being wise be cool? That’s what we need.

    All of soshal meedja seems to revolve around the concept that acting as if one is one of The Bonobos of Jersey Shore is the epitome of cool…daft wankers. Those monkeys should have been shunned, Or locked in the NY stocks for people to throw rotten veg at.

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  90. Moehau Man says:

    That is why talk like I do I do. I do too I do

    Yes well, sometimes I do.

    “Is ‘I do’ a kind of ‘cool’?” Mrs Moehau Man (my widowed old mum) asked just then, “like a foreign sheila’s wedding vow?”

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  91. Tarnished says:

    Yoda,

    For that to be me, I’d have to be wearing a long haired wig of a dark color, get a tan, get my ears pierced, wear makeup, and be comfortable in revealing clothing.

    I’m already bored just writing it all down… 😛

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  92. Tarnished says:

    So do all women deserve love? Do all men deserve respect?

    I believe everyone, man or woman, deserves the chance to work towards obtaining both love and respect. But neither can be handed out for free, or they will be worthless.

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  93. Tarnished says:

    Been maybe a week since Tarn overshared she did

    Seamus has requested that I create a Literotica account so that he can read the stories I’ve penned for him from the comfort of his phone. Does that count towards my overshare quota?

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  94. Spawny Get says:

    Works for me Tarn, well done catching up

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  95. Moehau Man says:

    For that to be me, I’d have to be wearing a long haired wig of a dark color, get a tan, get my ears pierced, wear makeup, and be comfortable in revealing clothing.

    “Sex appeal”, Mrs Moehau Man (my worldly-wise old mum) says, “is personal. For instance, a swinger is not everyone’s cup of tea. Dwarves”, she added, “are at a level to appreciate a swinger.”

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  96. Moehau Man says:

    “That reminds me of the dwarf who entered a twisting competition at a nudist colony”, Mrs Moehau Man (my humerous old mum) says. “He was clubbed to death.”

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  97. Yoda says:

    be comfortable in revealing clothing.

    But went to topless beach you did

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  98. Tarnished says:

    Lol @ Moe and his hilarious mother.

    Yoda,
    It’s very different in that environment. Revealing clothing is meant to be sexy and brings closer attention to the chosen physical trait…the curve of an ass, the length of a leg, the fullness of a breast. It covers, but also highly accentuates.

    At a topless beach, sure there’s still some women in bikinis who prefer to cover up (and that’s fine!) but there’s also a good number of topless ones. There’s no “competition”. With so many breasts out, all shapes, sizes, and ages, you become much more comfortable with accepting your tits as just another body part like your elbow or neck.

    I guess it’s a little bit like how I can see a man without a shirt on and appreciate the underlying sexuality of seeing his chest and nipples but it isn’t blatantly sexual. Does that make sense?

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  99. Yoda says:

    Tarn met her oversharing quota for the day she did

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  100. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    My understand is that after the first fifteen minutes, it is no big deal.

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  101. Ame says:

    “That is why talk like I do I do. I do too I do

    Yes well, sometimes I do.

    “Is ‘I do’ a kind of ‘cool’?” Mrs Moehau Man (my widowed old mum) asked just then, “like a foreign sheila’s wedding vow?””
    —————–

    what are Moehau Man’s wedding vows like?

    (Hello to Moehau Man’s Mum … would love to meet her someday if we didn’t live so far away!)

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  102. Tarnished says:

    My understand is that after the first fifteen minutes, it is no big deal.

    Pretty much, Fuzzie.
    I think it’s easier for people who aren’t overly modest and/or prudish though (again, not that those are bad traits). When I was growing up, my great aunt had a sauna that both male and female relatives would use at all ages. None of the adults ever wore towels above their waists, so as a child I never thought of breasts as inherently shameful or something that absolutely needed to be covered. And I live in NY, which allows women to go topless anywhere a man can, so every once in a great while you’ll see women taking advantage of this on very hot days. I went to a “hippie” college and it isn’t unheard-of to see female co-eds sunbathing without tops on at that campus.

    Which isn’t to say that tits lose their sexual appeal any more than male nipples or pecs do. It’s just a dual layer at that point.

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  103. SFC Ton says:

    Cool is about short term rewards and immediate gratification

    Wisdom is about the long term

    The two are generally out of sync for kids and young adults. And women are never not children

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  104. fuzziewuzziebear says:

    I do remember watching a documentary on Helen of Troy. At that time, the late Bronze Age, maidens went topless but, matrons could not. It may have been fashion or custom.

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  105. BeijaFlor says:

    And THAT Moehau Man, reminds me of a long-deceased buddy who, back in the Seventies, attended a nudist wedding. He said he came within half an inch of being the Best Man.

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  106. Yoda says:

    If two you do have,
    add them up you do?

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  107. Moehau Man says:

    what are Moehau Man’s wedding vows like?

    The sheila dents the bloke’s Kauri Club with her head, and he gives her custody of his loincloth snake.

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  108. Yoda says:

    maidens went topless but, matrons could not. It may have been fashion or custom.

    Perhaps just advertising it was.

    And one needs to advertise not,
    one does not

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  109. Moehau Man says:

    “Or he might give her custody of his spare codpiece instead” said Mrs Moehau Man (my observant old mum), “if a nubile bridesmaid caught his eye”.

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  110. Spawny Get says:

    “It may have been fashion or custom”
    Gravity

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  111. FNU LNU says:

    Could you maybe translate that in to American?

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  112. Moehau Man says:

    Could you maybe translate that in to American?

    “he gives her custody of his loincloth snake” means he mounts her for the edification of the wedding guests.

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  113. Spawny Get says:

    Forget Putin on a horse

    Trump2016

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  114. Yoda says:

    A new post there would be

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  115. thedeti says:

    “So do all women deserve love?”

    No.

    “Do all men deserve respect?”

    No.

    Wives are entitled to love from their husbands, only because the Word says so. Husbands deserve respect from their wives, only because the Word says so.

    I have met few wives who “deserve” love based on their merit. I’ve met few husbands who “deserve” respect based on their merit.

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  116. FNU LNU says:

    Ah, so they bumped uglies on pay per view.

    Thanks for the translation…

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